EITM Hair-loom 10/10/25

You 'do you.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you see And I don't remember the name of it,
but there's a museum that's closing in Independence, Missouri, where
you've been. I can't is it the hair museum or
the Museum of hair? Which one is? It's Is it
the hair museum?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, one of a kind hair museum.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Century old wreaths made from human hair filled the walls
of Layla's hair museum, and glass cases overflow with necklaces
and watch bands woven from the locks of the dead.
There are also tresses purported to come from past presidents,

(00:46):
from Hollywood legend Marilyn Monroe, and even Jesus himself. For
about thirty years, this hair art collection in the Kansas
City suburb of Independence attracted an eclectic group of gawkers
that included the likes of heavy metal legend Ozzy Osbourne.

(01:10):
I believe they have some of his hair or had
some of his hair, But is it the whole story?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
The woman, the woman who ran the joint Layla is
it Kohoon Kahoon Bagoon.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
She died last year, so now they're trying to figure
out what well they were trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
What to do with all this hair museum stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Okay, Diane makes it sound trashy. Not trash trashy, No,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I mean yes, if you sit there and think like
that's made out of human hair?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Not constantly reminded of that. No, you're you're really not.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I would I would argue that some of the stuff,
if you saw it, you wouldn't know it's human hair.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
So were they provided with the locks and they turned
it into wreaths? Or were they collecting a decor? I
wasn't familiar with which is hair wreaths? I had what
about hair bras?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Thank you? That's my favorite page on the website? That
and hot or Not seth and I used to go
through it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I haven't thought that hot or not and so long
I think about.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It all the time. Um I had your answer.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
This form of art peeted in popularity in the mid
eighteen hundreds, as women coiled the hair of the dead
into jewelry or told their family history by intertwining the
curls of loved ones into reaths.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Is someone listening sitting next to a haath for returning
from work tonight to a home where they have a
shadow box with a hair with a hair wreath.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Or hair bra.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hair had fallen out of favor by the nineteen forties
as memories were captured in photos. However, this artwork was
not celebrated because it was mostly done by women and
in large museums.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
They don't have a lot of this. So does somebody
have human hair at home? That's a good question. It
sounds like they could.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, listen, I brought it up. So they're trying
to figure out what to do. Kris Dan, will you
do me a favor? Will you see if anybody has
why wouldn't it have to be in a shadow box?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Could they just have it?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Think it's something to display? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, oh, I bet I bet a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well back up, Elliott, if people have them, oh, I
would bet everybody doesn't have it displayed.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
They may have it like tucked away somewhere, but it
had to be put into some sort of framing. Oh,
absolutely sure. Absolutely. Can I ask this? Can I ask this?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Are there people like, let's go, let's step by step
this thing. Are there people like, let's say, let's say
I need somebody who's old but your grandparents?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh, just a relationship.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, well, I don't wish this on anybody. But like,
let's say, let's say somebody's grandparent died. Are are there
people who keep a lock of the hair like they
asked the mortician to shave them one?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, if not, how would you get it?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like, I mean, if I'm making a wreath, it's not
like a big Christmas wreath.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
No, but like it's small. I actually think they're very nice.
I've definitely never seen these before.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, and yes, is it creepy a little bit, but
but okay, maybe not nice.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
They're tastefully done. I'll give you that.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I think what makes or introduces that element of eek
our human hair? No, because you were right, I'll give
you you may not know that's what this is.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh, I don't think you would, but I don't think
you would have it.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Also, it's it's on top of mind. It's not like
you're going, huh, I bet that's human hair. No, you
wouldn't think that. But it is tastefully done.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
But what I was gonna say is a lot of
these pieces are accompanied by old photographs, photographs, letters, notes.
But letters and notes if you're not reading them from
a distance, may not like scare you. But the photos
of the families with the very serious looks. I mean

(05:27):
it all it's like something you'd find in a haunted library.
Like it's right, So it all kind of it's the
sum of the part.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
And everybody's missing a little chunk right here, like the
eyes of the picture exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
No. No, But so anyway, the reason that I brought
it up, Number one, it's weird as hell is so
there's these thirty thousand pieces of art, the hair art,
and it's being so this Khun woman she dies, and
they don't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
They don't the other members of the family are like,
what do we do with this? Well, I got a job,
I'm not doing this. So they're dispersing it around. What's wrong?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I just was curious with the intersection, oh, saying if
we drove by it, yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
A sheets right there, McDonald's KFC. Yeah, there's a lot
going on, and there there's there's the hair barn, a
lot of parking. Anyway, some of the some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So they said, we'll be going to museums around the US,
including the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and
the National Museum of Women in.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
The Arts in d c so some of the hairs
are coming.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Here are we getting Phyllis Dillers? She donated a hair
wreath that had been in her family for generations.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh so it's not hers is no, no, but it's
not Dillers hair.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh, But back to what I was saying, if I
went to the or maybe maybe I did it, does
anybody during the viewing? I'm being serious, lean over and go,
I'm going to keep a lock of the hair and
just get a little snip and keep some of the hair.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You better ask permission to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Why if it's if Jackie died, and I'm not wishing
anything on anybody.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
If I wanted to do that, who cares? What are
they gonna do? Yell at me? I'd be like, I
want to piece my wife's hair. That's spouse.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah that's a little different.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah. No, That's what I'm saying. You were at like
the viewing.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I feel like I show up like no offense, Diane.
But when I showed up at Frank's viewing, I wasn't like, Hey,
is anybody looking?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I need some of Frank's hair. I'm making a wreath. No, No,
but I.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Think odds are better that you'd find someone that maybe
has had one of these done for them, done in
the family years ago, and that years decades ago, and
then it's just kind of been pasted.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You don't think it goes on anymore. I bet it
does past. Do you think you are still making this?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I thought you said it fell out of fashion in
the seventy five years ago, in the forties.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, but it fell out of fashion doesn't mean it
became extinct.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Although safe money maybe on me if I'm turning in
this into a parlay. I've got the joke in and anything, right,
I could go two for two with this new leg line.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
One Hi Elliott the morning.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Hi is this me?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Who's ass?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
This is Becca from Richmond. And you had asked if
anybody kept their hair or anybody had hair sitting around,
And I have a bag of my pre cancer hair.
When it was falling out, I had to shave your
head party and I still have it my pre cancer hair.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
No, I'm sorry, I'm not going to count that. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Look, I don't mind if somebody makes it into something
after I'm dead, But I'm in remission.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm good good, No, no, no, obviously, I'm very happy
to hear that.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Hey, can I ask you this? You may know?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
The answer to this is that A is that is
that more common than I than.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I than I know?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
People saving their hair.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I've never heard that. I've never heard that. I don't know.
I mean, it was so mine.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
I'm not sure about other people.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Maybe I'm just weird, but I mine was so long
at the time, and it was it was pretty thick,
and so I you know, when I it was falling
out so fast, I shaved it off and then I
just stuck it out a bag and then randomly I
come across it every once in a while like, oh, yeah,
that's my hair.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, but you know what, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like for example, like like like Jackie has a really
really good friend who I know very well. But today
today is her last treatment that she's going in for
and she like she lost she lost all of her
hair going through treatment, which, by the way, she and
I don't know if it's just a confidence that she
has or if it is.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Like legit, legit, she looks great bald, No, I mean
she really does.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Again, was she not wear wigs.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Are you know what the I mean, if you really
want to get into it. Butted, a buddy of mine,
a buddy of mine, sent her wigs that his wife
wore when when when she was going through treatment and
Jackie's frank got him, was like, no, you know what,
it's just it's not me, it's not me.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
And so she was she so she she is bald.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I told Jackie, I don't know that I would
say this to her face because nobody likes to lose
their hair.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
She looks great. And again, I don't know if it's confidence.
I don't know if it is that, you know, that
that fighter spirit.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
But like I look at her and go over her
hair doesn't come back like she looks great.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean she really really does. She looks fantastic. But
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I don't know if it ever crossed her mind, or
or if that's common or it even gets talked about
where to keep your hair, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I mean I've never heard that before.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Yeah, I just I went bald most of the time
just because I was having hot flashes at the same time,
because I went through surgical menopause at the same time.
So like I whipped my I had a wig, and
I like the one of the first few times that
I wore it, I was in the middle of home
people and had a hot flash and ripped it off,
and I was like, Okay, did.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You imagine seeing that?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh this feels better? Okay, all right?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Were pretty Oh I bet?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I bet I would have flipped out? All right, very good,
Thank you, ma'am, Thank.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
You, My grandpa. This is a DM My grandpa passed
last year and his evil wife was planning to cremate
him against his wishes, without any kind of master ceremonies.
So immediately after he died, my aunt and I were
standing in the hospital room, looked at each other and
got to snippin'. There is no beautiful full wreath, just

(12:01):
some smuggled hair in a ziploc bag.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
But what what what do you? What do you do
with that?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Like, at least at least with the museum, like it's
it was turned into a wreath. Some of them almost
look like it's a it's not a belt, but it's
almost like that woven where it looks like an old yeah, exactly,
Like like it's very tastefully done.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
But if you're just keeping hair in a bag. What
are you doing with it? You just wondered if people No, no,
like that was her cancer hair. I get it.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
No, I'm talking about the direct message.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, but what are they going to do with it?
Just keep it in a bag and keep it away
from the evil wife. Yeah. Those do look like braided belts.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, that necklaces. Yeah, that's kind of cool. I'm being honest,
that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You I would not know that's hair. No, you would
have no idea.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Whips a little bit, a little bit, but yeah, Like again,
I don't I don't want that for anybody, but I
wouldn't mind, like as a necklace. What a great talking piece. Elliott,
What is that? Oh that's Jackie's hair? Uh what Oh yeah,
it's her.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Hair, you know, like like ed Geen. No, not that far,
not that far. But I did cut it all off
of her line six. Hi Elliott in the morning? Does
this mean? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (13:30):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (13:31):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
My name is Joy. My husband's family actually has a
hair book which is just generations of their family member's hair,
and President Buchanan's hair is in there because they were
related to him.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wait a minute, your your husband's family is related to
former President Buchanan and in the hair book his hair
is in there also. Yes, wow, that's kind of cool.
I've never heard of the hair book.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I hadn't either. I'm married into this weird okay, So
but let.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Let me ask you this, how like, does somebody have
to pass before their hair is added to the book?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Or does it get added while they're alive.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
That's a really good question. I should ask that sometime.
I just know that, like when his grandmother passed away,
the hair book went to the oldest daughter and she
has since passed away, so it's still with her children.
So I don't know if they added the grandmother's.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Hair or Oh no, what I meant is, is your
husband's hair in it?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
No?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
No, no, no, it's like it's old. There's a lot
of people's hair in it, but they're really.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
And as a spar a go as a spouse. Will
your hair be in the book?

Speaker 6 (14:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think that's a very I think that's a very
fair question. You're part of the family, right, I am?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
I am, I've I've given birth to the only two
namesakes that they that the whole family. Yeah, so I no,
I do not need my hair in there. But I
do have locks of my baby's hair kept.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh you know what I feel like, I don't know.
I like people do that.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I have a lock of Marley's hair. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh we didn't do that the but no, I realized
like a lot of people do do a lot of
people do do that.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So yeah, no that I get that. I get all right,
very good book.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah no, this is for generations. This goes back to
the President of Buchanan.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
How many dates before he mentioned this?

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Oh? I well, I think it was mentioned when I
met the family, like, oh, he didn't even want to
definitely didn't bring.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It up on his own.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
It was like his parents.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tom needed to tell her about the hair book.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
By the way, I am so goddamn petty.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
The first thing the day that the divorce was final,
I'd rip that hair right out of book.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'm keeping the hair book.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, thank you. Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
By the way, the number of people that have hair
is crazy to me. Fine seven Hi Elliot.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
In the morning.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I got you. Who's this?

Speaker 5 (16:22):
This is Kristen?

Speaker 6 (16:22):
Hello elliotts Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Good?

Speaker 7 (16:26):
So my mother has an old family Bible from the
late seventeen hundreds early eighteen hundreds, and we found a
hair wreath or like picture like it was pressed. It's
probably about maybe an eight x ten sides.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh wow, And it's all different.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Colored hairs and looks like flowers and feathers and stuff
like that. But yeah, it was family hair from eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Isn't there something cool about that? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, absolutely. I thought we found it when I was
a kid, and I was like confused what it was,
and then it dawned on me. And it's still cool
but also kind of creepy at the same time, you
know what, Like I.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Get the creepiness, but like like like, can you see
anybody next to you? Like I'm looking at Diane and
Tyler and Kristen, like I could see people.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
I can't see anybody right now.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Where are you? You can't see anybody.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
I'm at home by myself. I work from home.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh okay, no, but you know, like, for example, look
at Diane's hair.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Look how pretty?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So look at Diane's hair drier than the other day. No,
but I mean imagine now you see that in a book.
Now it's two hundred years later and it's.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
In a book.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But all you think about is it like kind of
being like free and blowy and wavy and stuff, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
No, yeah, yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Thank you, Thank you, these two.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
And you're looking at me like I'm an idiot, but yeah, no,
like there's something.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Where it was like living.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know what that books? You know what that book
smells like after two hundred years?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah? Probably, ass it's a little us but that's okay.
Anything that's two hundred years old is gonna smell like that.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
I don't know, yeah, exactly exactly, especially if I had
him in stored properly.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like what if what if we decided we were going
to start in Elliott the Morning Listener Book of Hair,
and that way listeners would send us their hair God,
and we'll just put it into a book. I'm only
doing pubic however, No, but you know what I mean,
like there that would be that would be odd.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
That would be odd. And please don't send the hair in.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
The No, no, no, I will I will not.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. Sweat
that block. Everybody's got family hair line three.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Hi Elliott the Morning, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
How are you? I'm good.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
So my grandfather's mother passed when he was little, and
she wrote him this letter about.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
How she wouldn't see him grow up, and she'd cut
a piece of.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Her own hair and put it in the letter. And
my family still has that.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
And it's in a shadow box?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is it really?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes? Why is it? I can in two seconds I
could go from like there's something about like picturing the
hair blowing in the wind and being alive, and now
it's like in a shadow box and I'm like, uh,
not creepy, creepy.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, the letter, the letter, and like a watch that
she gave him in a lock of her hair is
all of the shadow box?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Hey can I ask this?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no. But like
back in like I don't know if it would have
been WW one, ww.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Two that's you for going wrestling. No no, but you
know what I mean, like back back in, back.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
In the war, like old wars, old wars, and like
if there was a young couple and the husband had
been no, no, no, no, I was gonna say, like
send over. Yeah, it was all fighting was over. It
was overseas fighting. One of the wars. Would he like
as just as so that the wife would have something

(20:15):
would he send over like a lock.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Of his hair? Would she send that back?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like?

Speaker 9 (20:20):
Did that go back and forth during the war. I
can see, like there's something cool. I've never come across
that from Instagram. My partner has her dead mom's hair
braided and ribbons post in a pattern and framed on
our wall. So that's pretty contemporary.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
See, and I hear that. I think that's nice. That's
nice hearing the setup for it. Yeah, because it's.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like it's done and it's it's it's made up and
it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And it is somebody's hair. Yea line three Hi Ellie the.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Morning because he was building a skin suit. Oh yeah,
hi Elliot the Morning. The one time I use it
where he's not fat, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
Hey, can you harry?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Hey Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:13):
So I play Santa And at the end of each
season I shaved my beard, well my wife's ever since
I started. She braids a piece of it and then
cuts it out and saves each year's beard from my
Santa Evans.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
And what are you gonna do with that?

Speaker 8 (21:31):
I have no idea. I thought it was kind of
weird that she wanted to do that. Somebody else recommended it,
and I was like, oh, I guess you want to.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
So you like, do you do a braid with the
like with the rubber bands and stuff in it?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
And then she just clips it off?

Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
She can't.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
I mean, just one little piece before I get before
I remove it at the end of the year, right, yeah,
but she just takes one braid of it and saved it.
I have no idea what's going to be done with it.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, that's weird. That's a little bit weird. I'll give
you that, all right, very good, Thank.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
You sir, But.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Just cut off Santa. Yeah what I said, thank you? No,
But he said but but oh I didn't hear say
something else.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I didn't hear that, which list am I on