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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what's so funny is every time you play
one of these intros, I know, you know my favorite
song because it says it in the book, and I'm like, oh,
that's my favorite song. I won't know how they knew,
like every single time, by the.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Way, how random is it?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Though? Not only is it your favorite Beatles song, it's
also Chris Ellopolis's favorite Beatles song.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's the crazy part, you know. So here's the thing
is Chris, who's the amazing artist on all the I
AM books. I thought I was a pretty big Beatles fan.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's like a lunatic, like in the best way.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And so I'm like, I know about the Beatles. I've
just spent you know, a month's researching it. And he's
like no, And he would go in and pick out
like when John got glasses, you know, like when the
actual mustache peach fuzz started before it got fully grown.
Like he was down into details, and I was like,
I'm not sure this is healthy anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh wow, dude, hey no, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But yeah, it was his song too, is so in
the end, one of the last lines in the book,
it said, you know that it was a song I
used to sing to my kids. I think there are
better Beatles songs, but it's the one I used to
sing to my kids. And he said, it's the one
I used to sing to my kids. And I'm like,
we're putting that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In the book.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean, how crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, that's and I'll give you that now. It makes
me feel bad. I don't know that I ever sang
that song to my kids.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well obviously you know a lesser father.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But I am glad to hear you say that that.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It may be your favorite for that reason, but it's
not the best Beatles song that I'm glad to hear you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, it's not. No, it's definitely not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's just the one that like when I when my
kids were little, I think, here comes the song this son,
and it was just that dude to Doo dooo was
like killer, it's killer. It makes me think of my kids.
They the moment I hear that song, my kids become
little again, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I will tell you this. Let me say something
to you right off the bat. I didn't know what
to expect with We Are the Beatles, and I went
in going, huh, I got you've never done a group before.
It's the beat so I didn't know exactly what to expect.
I'll give you a ton of credit. You crushed it, dude, No.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I you know what's really sweet is, obviously with every book,
like when we did I Am Jing Goodall, Jing Goodall
proof of the book we did I Am Billy jing King.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Billy Jing King spent two.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hours with me on the phone doing the book. Obviously
I couldn't get I was trying to get Ringo and
Paul to proof the book, you know, and I couldn't
get them, not because they don't like you know, they
didn't want to do it. They just don't do anything
with the Beatles anymore. It's just it creates too much
Hake and the other families and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So we went to this.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The guy who helped us was to me their best biographer,
a guy named Mike Lewison. And Mark Lewison is like
this guy out of London, of course, and he's the
guy who's just crushed it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I sent him the book.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And no one more than Billy Jing King, more than Oprah,
more than Dolly Pardon, more than anyone that we worked with,
sent more comments back on the Beatles book than any
book we've ever done, because he you know the details
and is four different guys you got to deal with.
And he also wrote this book completely made me cry,
and this is like the jaded old rock and roll
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critic guy, you know. And I was like, oh, I'm
so happy that like it moved him and that you know,
I said, this is the one book that I think, Yes,
it's always meant for your kids, and they give them
great heroes, but this is the book that I feel like,
like so many adults are like, I'm buying this for
myself because I need this inspiration and this idea that
we need to come together right now.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
There's a there's a picture early on and I got
an early copy of the of the book, Brad. So
if I'm going to ask two questions about a picture,
and one of them I hope just isn't a printing error.
But the so, there's there's a picture early in the
book where they're on stage and there are Chris Drew
what is supposed to represent thousands and thousands and thousands
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and thousands of people just screaming and losing their mind
in a crowd. Do you know the picture? I'm talking
about right at the beginning, yep, okay, number one, did
you hide anybody in the crowd?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
This is where Chris Elliopolis gets me in trouble. I'm
sure he did, now that you say it, who are
you thinking of? Are you thinking of like Charles Show's character?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh no, I was just thinking of, like, did you
did you hide friends in there? Like that's a great
scene where it doesn't because there are certain people and
there are certain things that you hide in every book.
I just didn't know if that page specifically was like, oh,
we can hide a real gem in here.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh no, Chris hides on every like if you saw
our scripts, like even on the last pages of the book,
they're the second to last page has like all these
people standing together on Abbey Road, and you can pick
out Yoko, like it's pretty obviously Yoko. Oh always we
got to put her in there. We you know, put
Billy Preston in there. But we were just like, I
challenge anyone to find all the people that we put
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in there. And on the next page, you know, he
put Schroeder from Charlie Brown in there because it's like,
you know, like it's like and so Chris is just
a killer at that. And what always happened is when
we did I in Walt Disney, I said, you know what, Chris,
here's my idea.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The book is done.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I proved that. I said we should go back and
put a hidden mickey there. Hidden mickeys are like the
little mouse hears that they hide all over Disney World
in real life. I said we should put a hidden
mickey on every page of this book, and he said, dummy,
they're all there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You missed every single one on every single DAYE.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So the other thing I wanted to ask you, and
again I got an early I have an early print
and do all of them. And the reason that got
me thinking was something hidden. Who is the person with
the red eye in that picture?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Red eye?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That person is just I think it's just madness. That
just defines madness. I trust me. He always does that
when it's like delirium, and I think that's just the
one kid who is like either Andre. And here's the
other thing is we wanted to make the book real also,
so there's a we can't say, your kids, when you're reading,
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we are the Beatles like and then they did drugs
and the music got really wild, right. But I was like, well,
we can't hide that either, because it's not historically accurate.
So I'm like, dude, there's a spread in the book
where it's like Beatlemania starts and it has like, you know,
when we do I Am Amelia or Heart a million
Heart always looks the same. Right when we do I
Am Abraham Lincoln, he's always got the big you know,
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the pipe hat and the little beard. But the Beatles evolve,
and so I'm like, Chris, they have to change on
every page that styles changed. So you know, we do
help and Yellow Submarine, and you know from when they're
you know, they have their regular haircuts. And then I'm like,
when we're doing Rubber Soul, let's warp the entire thing.
And that's the sign to any parent reading they're on
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drugs here. That's why it looks all wavy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
The other thing that I wasn't expecting, Brad, is you
introduced each character, but each character, each member of the Beatles,
you introduce them separately. And I don't know why. In
my head I thought it was all going to start with.
Maybe it's just because it's we are the Beatles. I
wasn't expecting it to start with like Paul and he's
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laying on the floor listening to his dad play the piano,
and that's kind of like what got him going? And
then we meet John. I just I don't know that
I was prepared to meet them all separately like that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, you know, the one thing we knew about the book,
and we you know this, we always do people that
we like, but we try and say, what's the universe need?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's what the books are always about, right, like each
book is in the beginning, you pick the famous people,
you pick Rosa Parks and doctor Kingen and Abraham Lincoln.
But now we pick like, what if the universe need?
And we always knew this book had to be about
one thing, come together. That's it. It had to be about.
You know, the secret of the Beatles is they made
each other better. That's the thing. We are better when
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we work together. So I'm like, you cannot sell that
to a child without first seeing them apart. So I
love the fact you start with Paul and he's doing
his thing, and you see John and he's doing his thing,
and then they're going about their lives and then you know,
then they're like, you know, what's better than has, you know,
than that friends, and then you're like, I'm George Harrison
and then they go through that thing and then they're like, man,
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we're so red. There's only one thing missing. And then
you know you're ten pages later and it's like, hi,
you know, I am Ringo Star. And by the time
they come together in the middle of the book, then
you feel like, oh my gosh, I've been on the
whole journey with them, and that that message of coming
together is to me so much more impactful and I
actually love I'm gonna I know you're not a comic
book reader, so comic book readers know how to read, but.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
We were worried. Excuse me, I know how to read.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
To read a comic you know, I guess I.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Don't know how to you go like down or across.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh there was one place, yeah, no, there was one
place in the book where I was like, I know
I got an early copy, but I think Brad screwed
this up, like I'm going down, like this doesn't even
go in order. And then I looked at the other page.
I was like, oh, that goes with that. So, yes,
you're right, I don't know how to read.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But Here's what I did is I know you know
how to color. And so if you look, which I
promise you didn't notice, people are like, who's speaking now?
When you say you know I am doing this. I
grew up in Liverpool. Who's speed is a Paul? Is
it John? If you look at the outside of the panel,
there's a color on each panel when they're individual, and
the colors you can see that Paul's is blue and
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John's is yellow, and you can see that George is
you know, more of like a pinkish magenta. And the
reason is because it's their Sergeant Pepper colors.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Nice bread. Listen, Okay, I'll let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
No, there are nerds right now going that's awesome. I'm
going to say that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, I never picked up on that.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. You're
never supposed to see it. But the point is when
you get lost, it is there to keep you on track.
And I love the fact that it and oh you know,
I should say it is the one time where Chris
HELLI Office always shows me up, always.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Puts things in.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He had colored in a different way, and I said,
why didn't you color it starts purpose, He's like, I'll
never forgive you for not thinking of that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh wow, good good.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But here's what I was gonna say, Bratt. Listen, I'm
one of the smartest people.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I love Tyler's laugh there and all the years have
been together.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There like that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, but listen, I didn't pick up on that. You
think some eight year old kid is going to pick
up on that? Please these eight year old kids.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you saw the letter, these eight year old kids
they wrote me, They're like, you got so and so's
birth like we did on one book. I forget which
one we just we typoed the birthday. It's in the
back timeline in a font that is like negative two.
And a kid wrote us on day one is like,
I know the birthday, I know all the birthdays of
every US president. You got the birthday. I'm like, oh
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my gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So whatever you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Think we are, how smart we are? There are kids
out there that are combing through these books looking.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
For every detail.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like I thought when I did the Nazi Conspiracy, the
World War two boss wrote a lot of letters, right,
nothing say eight year old kids that like go through
our kids books.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I The other thing that I really liked about the
about the book, though, Brad, is listen, do I like
the Beatles, Yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Do I love their music? Of course I do.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But you know, you do learn that, like you said,
you learn that these were just friends and these were
kids that grew up together. I didn't really know anything
about them as as kids. I had no I had
no idea.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And of course that's the best part of all the
IM books, right, like John Lennon and George Harrison, Like
George Harrison's fourteen years old when he meets him, right,
I mean, think about that, I'm a fourteen years old,
is like, and you know, and no one's much bigger,
you know, when when when Paul and Johnmy's you know,
you're talking about fifteen seventeen years their kids. And I
love the fact that we all think right now of
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the Beatles being like, you know, the stadium and the
larger than life. Right, they're bigger than life. They're they're
they're great everything in the best bampoolah blah blah. But
when they go on stage the first time, they're not good.
They're not even close to good. They're not magicians, like
they're just regular dudes and even and I love that.
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It's my favorite quote of any Beatles quote is what
John's aunt Mimi says to him. And she says to him, John,
you know, the guitars are all right for a hobby, but.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You'll never make a living at it. Like no one's
believing this thing, right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And then they get this, you know, to me, the
turning point is when they're kids is they go to
play in Germany and they're in this club that's it's
stilthy and it smells and they can smell the toilets
because it's so bad, and they just start playing and
their song gonna play is Ray Charles, what I'd say.
And during multiple trips in thirty eight weeks so better
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part of a year, they play over eleven hundred hours,
three hours every night.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
For almost a year.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And when they come back, that's when they're finally good.
And the message to me and to all all of
our kids and your nieces, your nephew's out there is
like this stuff is hard work. It's not talent. Yeah,
you gotta have the talent, but as we all know,
hard work and outwork talent especially when talent doesn't work
and they come back and now now they're close to
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becoming the Beatles. Obviously they get ring goo and they
get the other parts. But that's when you're like, oh,
and I want my daughter to have that message.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That like outwork them all.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I want my son to have that message that like,
put your head down and trust me. It's not just
like luck or you know, anything else. It's it's the
Beatles work. They just love what they're doing and they
work hard at it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And like even before they get to the part where
they go to Germany, I can't remember because I don't
remember what color panel was saying it, but it was
like they even say one of them, it's either George
Paul or John says we were crummy, terrible, we were
an embarrassment. Nobody would even hire us. And it wasn't
until they went to Germany. Like you said that with
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the hours in and hours in and hours in.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Does Germany does Germany?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know where that place is that they were
playing in Germany, but do.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They take credit for it?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Like Liverpool obviously is very famous for the Beatles, does
that club in Germany take any credit for Like this
is where they really hone their skills.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
That toilet that smells takes credit. It's where the Beatles
became the Beatles of Core. I mean, these places are
landmarks in Hamburg, you know. And each one of these
you know, even the Cavern Club, like you know where
they played when they came back with Brian Epstein, like
every one of these places. You can go on Beatles
tours and see where these places are. You know, everyone
thinks it's like just Abbey Road, right, but you know,
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the Beatles are built, you know, They're not just like
something that happens one day. And I love the fact
that you even find out when they're naming themselves right,
like they don't even have like their names are like bad.
There's like Johnny and the moon Dogs, and they have
all these other weird names of blackbirds and you know,
the polecats, the raven the jay birds. Like it's they
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got to go through it, they got to figure it out.
And I even one of my favorite things, I thought
you're going to jump on this one my favorite moments
in the whole book is when they first meet John is,
you know, kind of stand office. He's a little bit older,
so he thinks he's a little bit better because you know,
he's like seventeen in Paul's you know, a couple of
years younger and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's how a couple means and uh and basically he.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And you and so they basically when when he first
meets him, he's like, yeah, here's this guy who you know,
he knows a song that John knows. He actually knows
the words from. John Lennon's on stage just making up
the worst of the song because.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He doesn't even know it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's just bsing his way through it. And John has
to have this moment where he's like, I can invite
this guy to join me and swallow my ego or
like just you know, consider myself the best. And he's like,
so what do you want to be?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You know, do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I want to be the best individual or make the
group the best of being. He's like, you want to
join the band? Right? And John Lennon can't play guitar
as well as Paul McCartney, and so the way that
they learn in the play, since Paul is left handed,
they sit face to face with each other and their
guitars face the same way.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because one's left handed. One's right handed, and John.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Learns the chords upside down, then goes home and reverses them,
and it's like playing in a mirror. And I love
the fact that, you know, we even put that moment
in the back of the book, like that's how we
learned to play guitar. It wasn't fancy lessons. It wasn't
like he got it he went to music school. He
just watches one dude, watches some other dudes who's a
little better than them, and says like, I'm gonna try
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and get as good as you are, right, and that
makes John better, and then George makes both of them better,
and it's like just each of them trying to kind
of top the other. Is what makes the Beatles the Beatles.
It's like it's, you know, one and one is ten
with them is you know, if they're alone, they make
one somble. When they're together, it's just challenge after challenge
and it gets better and better. And that idea is
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such a powerful one.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hey, Brad, I think, like I think, well at least
for me, that by the time the Beatles' music arrives
in the US, that they are the Beatles, right, Like
everything's big overseas.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
They're definitely through England and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But you say in there the first three songs that
the Beatles had in the United States were big flops,
and three of them died. It wasn't until their fourth one,
I Want to hold your hand. What were the what
were the first three that were just duds?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Love Me do dud dies here.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Like all these other songs. Just I forget the other
two they all die and and and then literally when
they're first going over to come to America for Ed Sullivan,
they're like, I.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh, please please me as the other one I right,
just remember, please please me as one of them dies,
and she loves you. I think it's yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Dad, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Father says you should make it, yes, yes yes, because
it's more proper and like dad, you're awful right like that,
and can you just imagine? And they and they don't
even want to come, they say on the plane to America.
They're dreading it because they're like our songs are they're
great in the UK, but America doesn't care at all
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what we're doing. And all three singles come out and
flop and the fourth one comes out and if I
want to hold your hand and needs to say, you know,
obviously on the Ed Sullivan Show, ladies and gentlemen, the
Beatles and the whole world changes and good night?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What was a normal because you you you obviously that
gets pointed out in the book The Night they played
Ed Sullivan and the Night that they played The Ed
Sullivan Show. Seventy three million people watched the Ed Sullivan Show.
Do you you may not know the answer to this,
what was a normal knight's audience for? Like? Did he
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normally have seventy million or was it normally like a
good question?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, by the way, Tyler, wait to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The well, Tyler, just I guess you used the internet. Yeah,
forty million was a normal night for at Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Wow, that's sick. I mean, that's that's not even I
love that you went seventy million to seventy three. I
mean it's forty million is the regular and they and
the Beatles come on in seventy three.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Grede thirty, that's a sick number. Forty more million people
are showing up that are teenagers. And here's the thing.
You forget in history, right, like, is at that moment
in time just before that is when the word teenager
becomes an actual word, because you know, obviously it's a
word that exists, but where we start catering to it,
because before that, whatever you say, And we talked about
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this when I was doing my Kennedy book, like, if
you were a kid, you took over.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Your dad's or your mom's job.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They were a butcher, you became a butcher. They were
a baker, You became the baker. But then people started
moving to the suburbs, people started getting better education, and
once they got better schools and better educations, kids started saying,
I don't want to be my dad, I don't want
to be a butcher.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
To be something else. I want to have my own job.
I want to have my own president.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And most important, the surest first way was I want
my own music. And the Beatles stumbled into that, like
they were the ones who were like, screw my dad's
old old timey stuff on the Ed Sullivan show, Let's
go now, And you realize that entertainment since that moment
is a young person's endeavor, right, Like that's who goes
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to movies like when we watched the eighties and the nineties,
we you know, went to see the Breakfast Club, we
all thought, oh, everything's for us. It's because we were kids.
They were catering to us because we needed something to
do on a Saturday night. And the Beatles were the
music equivalent. And suddenly the world exploded and those forty
three million you know kids started going, I want to,
I want to, I want one of those.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Give me one of those right by the ways.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
The best part in the book, though, is each of
us made the others better. Find what you love and
find friends who love it just as much. Laugh together,
dream together, create together, make each other better. When it
gets hard, you'll be able to get by with a
little help from your friends.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That part is awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah. No, I mean the last two pages of every book,
the last two spreads in every book. I do the
same way for you know, thirty seven books. Now is Corey.
My wife comes up to my office and I throw
everything I got at her in terms of like, what's
the meaning of this person? Dolly Parton, you know John Lewis,
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The Beatles, Sally Ride, and the rule is I have
to make her cry where she makes me cry with whatever.
She kind of shoots back at me, and one of
us have to have like tears swell in their.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Eyes or get goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And you just read the line that made us both
like tear up, Like that's it. That's all it's about
is laugh together, dream together, create together, you know, and
make each other better. And that's what we were like,
that's the core of the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Hey, is this the first book you'll have to You'll
have to remind me. Is this the first book where
you where you deal or you kind of delve into
divorce a little bit?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh no, Well.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's one that's coming after that. So I guess that
I'm trying to think that someone else get divorced. I
think I think one of the persons gets divorced. But
you know what's great about that moment of divorces And
this is one of the corrections that that are the
guy was proven it made is I always was told that, Hey,
Jude was of course written by Paul for Julian Lennon
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when John Lennon got divorced, right, And he's like, no,
and this and this is such a fine point on
a pin and or you're gonna get all these emails
and tweets and all this stuff about it, but he
never wrote it for Julian. It's he got inspired thinking
of Julian and all he's going through as the marriage
is ending, and he wrote the song. But it wasn't
like I'm going to write a song for Julian to
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make them feel better. That was what America, you know,
we all put on it, and I and that moment though,
the fact that we get hey, Jude out of out
of that divorce is that's magical to me. And and
the line that I put after it in the book
is a line I believe it's in there that says,
you know, the song's too long and that DJs won't
play it, like, Hey Jude's just too long a song.
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And John Lennon comes, this is so John Lennon just
like they'll play it if it's us. He's just like,
f you man, like they're gonna play it where the
this is where like he knows where the beatles and
we're gonna do what we want. And I love the
fact that you you know, we want to get that
in there too, because they're now pushing the boundaries right,
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they're saying, I don't care like when when yesterday becomes
a song, Yesterday is not doesn't just come out of
Paul fully formed that it originally starts as scrambled eggs,
Oh my baby, how I love your legs. That's really
the first And he's like, and they work on it
for and I want to show like the evolution of
a song, and John and Paul work on it for weeks,
and instead he's like, instead of scramble EDGs, what about yesterday?
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All my troubles seems so far away? And they're like
and Ringo's like, we're not putting drums on that. And
you know, then they're like, we're going to hire a
string quartet and you see this whole thing come together
and again it it's always these little pieces, like I
think so often we think of art as like this,
you know, as it's it comes out fully formed. But
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art is just it's always sitting in the seat and
doing the hard work. And I want every kid who
dreams of, you know, whether it's music or writing or
painting or dance, I know, you know, whatever that kid's
dream is is to know it it's it's not it's
just that hard work and working at it.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Hey so having gone through this and I know it
just came out, so I don't know. I don't know
what all the response has been. Would you do another group?
And I don't mean I don't mean a musical group,
but another group of people.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
So I don't know if you know this whatever, I'll
announce it here because no one knows it. The we
only put in our like secret newsletter thing. But we
for the fortieth book in the in the I M series,
we asked people to vote of who the hero that
they wanted. We said, it's the fourtieth book. Democracy, at
least in our book still exists, like, so let's prove it.
(25:14):
You know, we can still make democracy work. So we're
going to say to America, here are six people you
can vote on. It was it was the Right Brothers,
Maya Angelou Lebron, James, Taylor Swift, Serena Williams.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
We let people vote on it, and.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
To my surprise, I felt for sure like Taylor Swift
was going to win just because of obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And the winner was the Right Brothers.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So the fourtieth book in the series is we're going
to do the next book is Simone Biles right?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
The book after that, I haven't announced.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'll say to you who cares. We're doing Princess Diana,
which my wife is so excited by and so Diana, Yeah,
there you go. And and then we're doing the Right Brothers.
So we're doing another we are book for the fourtieth
book in the series.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Hey, can I ask you this about the Princess Diana
book real quick? Are you gonna deal with the Yeah?
Are you gonna deal with the accident?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Uh? Well, you know, we put it in the timeline.
I felt like we needed to say it, you know,
but we didn't. We decided not to say. And then
the paparazzi killed her and her kids.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Saw the pictures. We kind of let you know, we
decided to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That part out, you know, that life. We did, but
but we said how you know we did. We did
say she died, you know, we never when we did
Amelia Earhart, we weren't like and then our plane went
down in the ocean. Have a good day, kid, that's good.
You know. We don't show the play for Lincoln, but
we but that one. Usually we don't say it, but
I felt like with Allen, you had to. It was
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just an important one in the end, and and that
was when you asked about divorce. We definitely deal with
divorce in that book. It's a big one for her, sure,
and obviously not just for her and Charles, but her
and her own parents. It's like a key moment of
her life and I and there are kids.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Out there, and that's where you know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's pages dedicated to that divorce because that's what sent
her on two different mental health spirals, and that whole book,
I Am Princess Diana's is all about empathy, and so
you have to see where those spirals come from, and
that's where she learns that people are going through stuff
you don't know about. So it starts and we are
the Beatles, but obviously becomes a bigger issue in the
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books that are coming. By the way, can I just
tell you, I can't believe you can point this out.
The picture for Let it Be when they're on the
rooftop and the final live concert, in the final gig
on the roof is in all the years we've been
doing this is my favorite image I think that Chris
has drawn of anything. And I loved it so much
(27:38):
that I had Chris make for me. I had him
crop out to get back Jojoe word balloon and I've
put it on a T shirt and I just was like,
I'm making a T shirt of our own stuff, Like
I do not do that, but Chris's art is so
good that I And then the great part was then
Chris sent me a T shirt of like another image
that's one of his favorites. And now at this point
we're just wearing our own stuff, like we are just
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on at all shopping or anything.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
We're just wearing, you know, close to the beetle. And
that's what I was gonna ask if you thought about taking.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Any of these pictures and making T shirts, but you
already just jumped to the end. Now let me say this.
Let me say this, mister Meltzer on Instagram. You know
what I loved but bothered me in like one of
your little like hey, the book's coming out pictures. I
love you dressed as all of the different Sergeant Pepper's guy.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm tortured by the one of you with hair.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
By the way, let me tell you the horror story
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So that's Barnes and Noble has me doing.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, we always do story times where I read
the books, I always dress up and outfits. And I
was like, barn Noble was like, can you do we
are the Beatles for us? I'm like, I've been waiting
my whole life for you to ask me that question.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And so I have so much.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So there's one of me with hair, but there are
I think two or three different types of hair in
the story time. Plus none of those pictures have the
full best mustaches, Like I have a mustache that is
and I'm like, I don't even care if it matches
the Beatles. I'm using all of it, like everything. And
so here's the great part is my sister text me
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last night when she saw that picture on my Instagram
and she finally she pulls, she snaps a shot of
just the close up of me with hair and says,
I finally see that we look alike.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I was like, that's a horrible picture of me.
It's like a horrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Picture of me with hair. And my sisters are like, oh,
we do look alike. I never thought we did.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
All right, last two things. The other thing I saw
that you posted, Uh this is not related to you
or your books, but more towards your nerdyville.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Did you like Thunderbolts. I love Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, you really, it's like the first mental It's the
first like mental health superhero movie you'll ever see.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm an all kid in the side, like it's a
you know, and again, movies are I don't care a listen,
I'm an adult. I love my Marvel movies and I
love my stuf wass blah blah blah. But those movies
really are for kids. And the reason that the show
that the movie has taken off is because and I
watched it with my own kids who saw it, is
our kids are in a mental health crisis. If you
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have a daughter like you are dealing with some level
of anxiety, like social media has wrecked our poor kids'
brains for years now, and COVID and everything else they're
dealing with and it's hard being a kid right now
in America and they and the reason why this movie
is doing so well after Marvel put out so much
crap right is because kids are going that spoke to me,
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these people have real problems, and that's how I'm feeling
and what you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I always say the great art and especially great movies,
great stories, great books. There are never things you like
about the plot, or you like the plot or that
was great action. When you love a great book, when
you love a great movie, it's because that story told
you something, not about some character, but it told you
something about yourself. And to me, that's why we love
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the Beatles because we feel like their story, of course
went not the Beatles, but there's stories like our story. Right.
We come from nothing, we try to build it, we
try and get there. You know, we all know what
it's like to have someone who makes us feel a
little stronger when they're by our side. And that's the
same thing with Thunderbolt. It's not to get to you know,
artsy about it, but kids are looking at that and
going like, I'm not alone in my really messed up
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feelings in my brain right now.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And you'll see when you see the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But it's a movie really about depression and loneliness and
kids are feeling alone right now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Interesting that makes me want to see it, honestly, because,
like you said, Marvels put out a decent line of like, Eh,
this isn't really this isn't really killing it.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But the reviews on this thing are fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And That's why it's not because everyone loves another fight scene.
It's because they found another gear they You know, I
always say when I write my thrillers, when I write
even the kids' books, smaller is bigger, right right, make
us feel it in our hearts, like that page you
read about you know, the beatles about you know, about
creating together and dreaming together and laughing together and making
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each other better. Like it's not about the seventy million
people who showed up and the millions of records we
don't put like that's nonsense to me, But I believe
in that feeling of like, man, your best friend next
to you makes you feel unstoppable and and that small
little feeling is what makes us human. And yeah, I
don't I can't say it's gonna be your favorite superhero
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movie of all time, right, but I'm telling you you're
gonna see something in there, and you're gonna go, like
I see my kids in this thing, Like there's something
in there that's just like it's you know, I don't
want to overhype it. It's not the greatest movie of
all time, but speaking speaking in a language that people
really need right now.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hey, And then last thing.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't know if you thought of this or not,
but like right now and this I'm helping you right
now is graduation time. Wouldn't this be a good time
to get people a copy of Make Magic?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I love you for it, so I so obviously you
know I came on the show before and talked about
Make Magic. It's my my commencement address from Michigan last
year that I turned into a book, and it's called
the Little Book of Inspiration. You didn't know you needed
the perfect graduation gift to give that.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Kid in your life what.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Magic is right?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I love the fact.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You, you know, teach them. There are four types of
magic tricks if you ask magicians. There's you know, the
take outside, illusions and escapes. There's only four types of tricks.
You make something appear, you make something disappear. The third
trick is you make two things switch places. And the
fourth trick is you take one thing and you turn
it into something else, the hardest trick of all transformation.
And the book goes through all the things and it's
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a beautiful, inspiring little gift. It's only ten dollars when
you go on Amazon or go to your local bookstore.
It's ten bucks. It's a perfect, perfect graduation gift. But
what I love is I took the my niece graduate
of Michigan this weekend, and I got to go to
watch her graduate. Last year, I was on the stage
giving the commencement address. This here, I just was really
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sitting in the stands with a copy of my book,
holding onto my book.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm like, I know what my niece is getting this year.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I got this book.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm glad you explained that, because I saw the picture
of you sitting there reading and I was like.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
How the f did he do this? Like what?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Like, what what happened where he's reading his book with
all of this going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now that makes more sense to me? Yeah, no, no so.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But but let me just say that going and watching
graduation is so much calmer for me than staying in
front of seventy thousand people and having to give the like,
I mean, great part was is like this year after me,
they got Derek Jeter, which just proves they like bald,
handsome men from Florida exactly like that. But people are like,
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what'd you think of Derek Jeter. I'm like, I don't
even care I didn't have to be me, like I
didn't have to like like that. I love doing it. It
is my my my make magic speech and maybe one
of my favorite things I've ever written, which is why
you know, people wanted it and asking we turned it
into a book because people were like, I I want
this text for my kid, I want this text for
my niece, I want it for my nephew. And I've
been doing this twenty five years and no one's ever
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asked me for the text of anything I've said. But
this book just, you know, it's about empathy, and it's
about like you know, cruelty and venom and harshly judging
those we disagree with has become sport in our culture.
But cruelty and venom aren't signs of strength. There's signs
of weakness and petty and security. And what takes strength
is showing kindness to someone and showing empathy. And there's
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this line in the book that just wrecks me every time,
and it says, one day someone's going to hug you
so tight that all your broken pieces will fit back together.
And that line, which was said to me at a
friend's funeral, just wrecked me and I put it in
the speech and it's the most photographed page when people
buy the book and give it to their kids for graduation,
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that people send back to me. And I love the
fact cool. I love the fact that people get to
give that as a graduation gift. So thank you for mentioning.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now Across the Universe is the best Beatles soul of
all time.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'll just leave you with that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
We Are The Beatles is out and available now.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Part of the Ordinary People Change the World series. Uh, Brad,
it is good to talk to you, sir.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Good job on the book, my friend, Thank you, thank you,
love you for it. I'm gonna listen to your song now.
It is a great song.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm trying to think of it's the best song, but
it's a.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Solid it is. No, it is the best song, Brad.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
My wait, what Dianea? And what's Tyler is? I want
to hear one's favorite Beatles song.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh boy, here we go like my life, I know. Yeah,
killer and get Back.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Get Back as a killer too. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Them really as good as Across the Universe though.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Tomorrow tomorrow is the fifty fifth anniversary of Let It Be?
Is it really?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh? No?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Kidding, no kidding. Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Our marketing plan went not just dumb luck once again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
All right, Brad, we'll talk to you soon. Thank you, buddy,
Love you,
You know what's so funny is every time you play
one of these intros, I know, you know my favorite
song because it says it in the book, and I'm like, oh,
that's my favorite song. I won't know how they knew,
like every single time, by the.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Way, how random is it?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Though? Not only is it your favorite Beatles song, it's
also Chris Ellopolis's favorite Beatles song.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's the crazy part, you know. So here's the thing
is Chris, who's the amazing artist on all the I
AM books. I thought I was a pretty big Beatles fan.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's like a lunatic, like in the best way.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And so I'm like, I know about the Beatles. I've
just spent you know, a month's researching it. And he's
like no, And he would go in and pick out
like when John got glasses, you know, like when the
actual mustache peach fuzz started before it got fully grown.
Like he was down into details, and I was like,
I'm not sure this is healthy anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh wow, dude, hey no, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But yeah, it was his song too, is so in
the end, one of the last lines in the book,
it said, you know that it was a song I
used to sing to my kids. I think there are
better Beatles songs, but it's the one I used to
sing to my kids. And he said, it's the one
I used to sing to my kids. And I'm like,
we're putting that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In the book.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean, how crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, that's and I'll give you that now. It makes
me feel bad. I don't know that I ever sang
that song to my kids.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well obviously you know a lesser father.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But I am glad to hear you say that that.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It may be your favorite for that reason, but it's
not the best Beatles song that I'm glad to hear you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, it's not. No, it's definitely not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's just the one that like when I when my
kids were little, I think, here comes the song this son,
and it was just that dude to Doo dooo was
like killer, it's killer. It makes me think of my kids.
They the moment I hear that song, my kids become
little again, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I will tell you this. Let me say something
to you right off the bat. I didn't know what
to expect with We Are the Beatles, and I went
in going, huh, I got you've never done a group before.
It's the beat so I didn't know exactly what to expect.
I'll give you a ton of credit. You crushed it, dude, No.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I you know what's really sweet is, obviously with every book,
like when we did I Am Jing Goodall, Jing Goodall
proof of the book we did I Am Billy jing King.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Billy Jing King spent two.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hours with me on the phone doing the book. Obviously
I couldn't get I was trying to get Ringo and
Paul to proof the book, you know, and I couldn't
get them, not because they don't like you know, they
didn't want to do it. They just don't do anything
with the Beatles anymore. It's just it creates too much
Hake and the other families and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So we went to this.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The guy who helped us was to me their best biographer,
a guy named Mike Lewison. And Mark Lewison is like
this guy out of London, of course, and he's the
guy who's just crushed it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I sent him the book.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And no one more than Billy Jing King, more than Oprah,
more than Dolly Pardon, more than anyone that we worked with,
sent more comments back on the Beatles book than any
book we've ever done, because he you know the details
and is four different guys you got to deal with.
And he also wrote this book completely made me cry,
and this is like the jaded old rock and roll
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critic guy, you know. And I was like, oh, I'm
so happy that like it moved him and that you know,
I said, this is the one book that I think, Yes,
it's always meant for your kids, and they give them
great heroes, but this is the book that I feel like,
like so many adults are like, I'm buying this for
myself because I need this inspiration and this idea that
we need to come together right now.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
There's a there's a picture early on and I got
an early copy of the of the book, Brad. So
if I'm going to ask two questions about a picture,
and one of them I hope just isn't a printing error.
But the so, there's there's a picture early in the
book where they're on stage and there are Chris Drew
what is supposed to represent thousands and thousands and thousands
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and thousands of people just screaming and losing their mind
in a crowd. Do you know the picture? I'm talking
about right at the beginning, yep, okay, number one, did
you hide anybody in the crowd?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
This is where Chris Elliopolis gets me in trouble. I'm
sure he did, now that you say it, who are
you thinking of? Are you thinking of like Charles Show's character?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh no, I was just thinking of, like, did you
did you hide friends in there? Like that's a great
scene where it doesn't because there are certain people and
there are certain things that you hide in every book.
I just didn't know if that page specifically was like, oh,
we can hide a real gem in here.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh no, Chris hides on every like if you saw
our scripts, like even on the last pages of the book,
they're the second to last page has like all these
people standing together on Abbey Road, and you can pick
out Yoko, like it's pretty obviously Yoko. Oh always we
got to put her in there. We you know, put
Billy Preston in there. But we were just like, I
challenge anyone to find all the people that we put
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in there. And on the next page, you know, he
put Schroeder from Charlie Brown in there because it's like,
you know, like it's like and so Chris is just
a killer at that. And what always happened is when
we did I in Walt Disney, I said, you know what, Chris,
here's my idea.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The book is done.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I proved that. I said we should go back and
put a hidden mickey there. Hidden mickeys are like the
little mouse hears that they hide all over Disney World
in real life. I said we should put a hidden
mickey on every page of this book, and he said, dummy,
they're all there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You missed every single one on every single DAYE.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So the other thing I wanted to ask you, and
again I got an early I have an early print
and do all of them. And the reason that got
me thinking was something hidden. Who is the person with
the red eye in that picture?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Red eye?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That person is just I think it's just madness. That
just defines madness. I trust me. He always does that
when it's like delirium, and I think that's just the
one kid who is like either Andre. And here's the
other thing is we wanted to make the book real also,
so there's a we can't say, your kids, when you're reading,
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we are the Beatles like and then they did drugs
and the music got really wild, right. But I was like, well,
we can't hide that either, because it's not historically accurate.
So I'm like, dude, there's a spread in the book
where it's like Beatlemania starts and it has like, you know,
when we do I Am Amelia or Heart a million
Heart always looks the same. Right when we do I
Am Abraham Lincoln, he's always got the big you know,
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the pipe hat and the little beard. But the Beatles evolve,
and so I'm like, Chris, they have to change on
every page that styles changed. So you know, we do
help and Yellow Submarine, and you know from when they're
you know, they have their regular haircuts. And then I'm like,
when we're doing Rubber Soul, let's warp the entire thing.
And that's the sign to any parent reading they're on
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drugs here. That's why it looks all wavy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
The other thing that I wasn't expecting, Brad, is you
introduced each character, but each character, each member of the Beatles,
you introduce them separately. And I don't know why. In
my head I thought it was all going to start with.
Maybe it's just because it's we are the Beatles. I
wasn't expecting it to start with like Paul and he's
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laying on the floor listening to his dad play the piano,
and that's kind of like what got him going? And
then we meet John. I just I don't know that
I was prepared to meet them all separately like that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, you know, the one thing we knew about the book,
and we you know this, we always do people that
we like, but we try and say, what's the universe need?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's what the books are always about, right, like each
book is in the beginning, you pick the famous people,
you pick Rosa Parks and doctor Kingen and Abraham Lincoln.
But now we pick like, what if the universe need?
And we always knew this book had to be about
one thing, come together. That's it. It had to be about.
You know, the secret of the Beatles is they made
each other better. That's the thing. We are better when
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we work together. So I'm like, you cannot sell that
to a child without first seeing them apart. So I
love the fact you start with Paul and he's doing
his thing, and you see John and he's doing his thing,
and then they're going about their lives and then you know,
then they're like, you know, what's better than has, you know,
than that friends, and then you're like, I'm George Harrison
and then they go through that thing and then they're like, man,
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we're so red. There's only one thing missing. And then
you know you're ten pages later and it's like, hi,
you know, I am Ringo Star. And by the time
they come together in the middle of the book, then
you feel like, oh my gosh, I've been on the
whole journey with them, and that that message of coming
together is to me so much more impactful and I
actually love I'm gonna I know you're not a comic
book reader, so comic book readers know how to read, but.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
We were worried. Excuse me, I know how to read.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
To read a comic you know, I guess I.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Don't know how to you go like down or across.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh there was one place, yeah, no, there was one
place in the book where I was like, I know
I got an early copy, but I think Brad screwed
this up, like I'm going down, like this doesn't even
go in order. And then I looked at the other page.
I was like, oh, that goes with that. So, yes,
you're right, I don't know how to read.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But Here's what I did is I know you know
how to color. And so if you look, which I
promise you didn't notice, people are like, who's speaking now?
When you say you know I am doing this. I
grew up in Liverpool. Who's speed is a Paul? Is
it John? If you look at the outside of the panel,
there's a color on each panel when they're individual, and
the colors you can see that Paul's is blue and
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John's is yellow, and you can see that George is
you know, more of like a pinkish magenta. And the
reason is because it's their Sergeant Pepper colors.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Nice bread. Listen, Okay, I'll let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
No, there are nerds right now going that's awesome. I'm
going to say that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, I never picked up on that.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. You're
never supposed to see it. But the point is when
you get lost, it is there to keep you on track.
And I love the fact that it and oh you know,
I should say it is the one time where Chris
HELLI Office always shows me up, always.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Puts things in.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He had colored in a different way, and I said,
why didn't you color it starts purpose, He's like, I'll
never forgive you for not thinking of that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh wow, good good.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But here's what I was gonna say, Bratt. Listen, I'm
one of the smartest people.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I love Tyler's laugh there and all the years have
been together.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There like that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, but listen, I didn't pick up on that. You
think some eight year old kid is going to pick
up on that? Please these eight year old kids.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you saw the letter, these eight year old kids
they wrote me, They're like, you got so and so's
birth like we did on one book. I forget which
one we just we typoed the birthday. It's in the
back timeline in a font that is like negative two.
And a kid wrote us on day one is like,
I know the birthday, I know all the birthdays of
every US president. You got the birthday. I'm like, oh
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my gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So whatever you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Think we are, how smart we are? There are kids
out there that are combing through these books looking.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
For every detail.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like I thought when I did the Nazi Conspiracy, the
World War two boss wrote a lot of letters, right,
nothing say eight year old kids that like go through
our kids books.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I The other thing that I really liked about the
about the book, though, Brad, is listen, do I like
the Beatles, Yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Do I love their music? Of course I do.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But you know, you do learn that, like you said,
you learn that these were just friends and these were
kids that grew up together. I didn't really know anything
about them as as kids. I had no I had
no idea.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And of course that's the best part of all the
IM books, right, like John Lennon and George Harrison, Like
George Harrison's fourteen years old when he meets him, right,
I mean, think about that, I'm a fourteen years old,
is like, and you know, and no one's much bigger,
you know, when when when Paul and Johnmy's you know,
you're talking about fifteen seventeen years their kids. And I
love the fact that we all think right now of
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the Beatles being like, you know, the stadium and the
larger than life. Right, they're bigger than life. They're they're
they're great everything in the best bampoolah blah blah. But
when they go on stage the first time, they're not good.
They're not even close to good. They're not magicians, like
they're just regular dudes and even and I love that.
(12:13):
It's my favorite quote of any Beatles quote is what
John's aunt Mimi says to him. And she says to him, John,
you know, the guitars are all right for a hobby, but.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You'll never make a living at it. Like no one's
believing this thing, right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And then they get this, you know, to me, the
turning point is when they're kids is they go to
play in Germany and they're in this club that's it's
stilthy and it smells and they can smell the toilets
because it's so bad, and they just start playing and
their song gonna play is Ray Charles, what I'd say.
And during multiple trips in thirty eight weeks so better
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part of a year, they play over eleven hundred hours,
three hours every night.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
For almost a year.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And when they come back, that's when they're finally good.
And the message to me and to all all of
our kids and your nieces, your nephew's out there is
like this stuff is hard work. It's not talent. Yeah,
you gotta have the talent, but as we all know,
hard work and outwork talent especially when talent doesn't work
and they come back and now now they're close to
(13:16):
becoming the Beatles. Obviously they get ring goo and they
get the other parts. But that's when you're like, oh,
and I want my daughter to have that message.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That like outwork them all.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I want my son to have that message that like,
put your head down and trust me. It's not just
like luck or you know, anything else. It's it's the
Beatles work. They just love what they're doing and they
work hard at it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And like even before they get to the part where
they go to Germany, I can't remember because I don't
remember what color panel was saying it, but it was
like they even say one of them, it's either George
Paul or John says we were crummy, terrible, we were
an embarrassment. Nobody would even hire us. And it wasn't
until they went to Germany. Like you said that with
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the hours in and hours in and hours in.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Does Germany does Germany?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know where that place is that they were
playing in Germany, but do.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They take credit for it?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Like Liverpool obviously is very famous for the Beatles, does
that club in Germany take any credit for Like this
is where they really hone their skills.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
That toilet that smells takes credit. It's where the Beatles
became the Beatles of Core. I mean, these places are
landmarks in Hamburg, you know. And each one of these
you know, even the Cavern Club, like you know where
they played when they came back with Brian Epstein, like
every one of these places. You can go on Beatles
tours and see where these places are. You know, everyone
thinks it's like just Abbey Road, right, but you know,
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the Beatles are built, you know, They're not just like
something that happens one day. And I love the fact
that you even find out when they're naming themselves right,
like they don't even have like their names are like bad.
There's like Johnny and the moon Dogs, and they have
all these other weird names of blackbirds and you know,
the polecats, the raven the jay birds. Like it's they
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got to go through it, they got to figure it out.
And I even one of my favorite things, I thought
you're going to jump on this one my favorite moments
in the whole book is when they first meet John is,
you know, kind of stand office. He's a little bit older,
so he thinks he's a little bit better because you know,
he's like seventeen in Paul's you know, a couple of
years younger and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's how a couple means and uh and basically he.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And you and so they basically when when he first
meets him, he's like, yeah, here's this guy who you know,
he knows a song that John knows. He actually knows
the words from. John Lennon's on stage just making up
the worst of the song because.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He doesn't even know it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's just bsing his way through it. And John has
to have this moment where he's like, I can invite
this guy to join me and swallow my ego or
like just you know, consider myself the best. And he's like,
so what do you want to be?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You know, do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I want to be the best individual or make the
group the best of being. He's like, you want to
join the band? Right? And John Lennon can't play guitar
as well as Paul McCartney, and so the way that
they learn in the play, since Paul is left handed,
they sit face to face with each other and their
guitars face the same way.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Because one's left handed. One's right handed, and John.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Learns the chords upside down, then goes home and reverses them,
and it's like playing in a mirror. And I love
the fact that, you know, we even put that moment
in the back of the book, like that's how we
learned to play guitar. It wasn't fancy lessons. It wasn't
like he got it he went to music school. He
just watches one dude, watches some other dudes who's a
little better than them, and says like, I'm gonna try
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and get as good as you are, right, and that
makes John better, and then George makes both of them better,
and it's like just each of them trying to kind
of top the other. Is what makes the Beatles the Beatles.
It's like it's, you know, one and one is ten
with them is you know, if they're alone, they make
one somble. When they're together, it's just challenge after challenge
and it gets better and better. And that idea is
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such a powerful one.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hey, Brad, I think, like I think, well at least
for me, that by the time the Beatles' music arrives
in the US, that they are the Beatles, right, Like
everything's big overseas.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
They're definitely through England and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But you say in there the first three songs that
the Beatles had in the United States were big flops,
and three of them died. It wasn't until their fourth one,
I Want to hold your hand. What were the what
were the first three that were just duds?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Love Me do dud dies here.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Like all these other songs. Just I forget the other
two they all die and and and then literally when
they're first going over to come to America for Ed Sullivan,
they're like, I.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh, please please me as the other one I right,
just remember, please please me as one of them dies,
and she loves you. I think it's yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Dad, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Father says you should make it, yes, yes yes, because
it's more proper and like dad, you're awful right like that,
and can you just imagine? And they and they don't
even want to come, they say on the plane to America.
They're dreading it because they're like our songs are they're
great in the UK, but America doesn't care at all
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what we're doing. And all three singles come out and
flop and the fourth one comes out and if I
want to hold your hand and needs to say, you know,
obviously on the Ed Sullivan Show, ladies and gentlemen, the
Beatles and the whole world changes and good night?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What was a normal because you you you obviously that
gets pointed out in the book The Night they played
Ed Sullivan and the Night that they played The Ed
Sullivan Show. Seventy three million people watched the Ed Sullivan Show.
Do you you may not know the answer to this,
what was a normal knight's audience for? Like? Did he
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normally have seventy million or was it normally like a
good question?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, by the way, Tyler, wait to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The well, Tyler, just I guess you used the internet. Yeah,
forty million was a normal night for at Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Wow, that's sick. I mean, that's that's not even I
love that you went seventy million to seventy three. I
mean it's forty million is the regular and they and
the Beatles come on in seventy three.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Grede thirty, that's a sick number. Forty more million people
are showing up that are teenagers. And here's the thing.
You forget in history, right, like, is at that moment
in time just before that is when the word teenager
becomes an actual word, because you know, obviously it's a
word that exists, but where we start catering to it,
because before that, whatever you say, And we talked about
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this when I was doing my Kennedy book, like, if
you were a kid, you took over.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Your dad's or your mom's job.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They were a butcher, you became a butcher. They were
a baker, You became the baker. But then people started
moving to the suburbs, people started getting better education, and
once they got better schools and better educations, kids started saying,
I don't want to be my dad, I don't want
to be a butcher.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
To be something else. I want to have my own job.
I want to have my own president.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And most important, the surest first way was I want
my own music. And the Beatles stumbled into that, like
they were the ones who were like, screw my dad's
old old timey stuff on the Ed Sullivan show, Let's
go now, And you realize that entertainment since that moment
is a young person's endeavor, right, Like that's who goes
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to movies like when we watched the eighties and the nineties,
we you know, went to see the Breakfast Club, we
all thought, oh, everything's for us. It's because we were kids.
They were catering to us because we needed something to
do on a Saturday night. And the Beatles were the
music equivalent. And suddenly the world exploded and those forty
three million you know kids started going, I want to,
I want to, I want one of those.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Give me one of those right by the ways.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
The best part in the book, though, is each of
us made the others better. Find what you love and
find friends who love it just as much. Laugh together,
dream together, create together, make each other better. When it
gets hard, you'll be able to get by with a
little help from your friends.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That part is awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah. No, I mean the last two pages of every book,
the last two spreads in every book. I do the
same way for you know, thirty seven books. Now is Corey.
My wife comes up to my office and I throw
everything I got at her in terms of like, what's
the meaning of this person? Dolly Parton, you know John Lewis,
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The Beatles, Sally Ride, and the rule is I have
to make her cry where she makes me cry with whatever.
She kind of shoots back at me, and one of
us have to have like tears swell in their.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Eyes or get goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And you just read the line that made us both
like tear up, Like that's it. That's all it's about
is laugh together, dream together, create together, you know, and
make each other better. And that's what we were like,
that's the core of the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Hey, is this the first book you'll have to You'll
have to remind me. Is this the first book where
you where you deal or you kind of delve into
divorce a little bit?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh no, Well.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
There's one that's coming after that. So I guess that
I'm trying to think that someone else get divorced. I
think I think one of the persons gets divorced. But
you know what's great about that moment of divorces And
this is one of the corrections that that are the
guy was proven it made is I always was told that, Hey,
Jude was of course written by Paul for Julian Lennon
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when John Lennon got divorced, right, And he's like, no,
and this and this is such a fine point on
a pin and or you're gonna get all these emails
and tweets and all this stuff about it, but he
never wrote it for Julian. It's he got inspired thinking
of Julian and all he's going through as the marriage
is ending, and he wrote the song. But it wasn't
like I'm going to write a song for Julian to
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make them feel better. That was what America, you know,
we all put on it, and I and that moment though,
the fact that we get hey, Jude out of out
of that divorce is that's magical to me. And and
the line that I put after it in the book
is a line I believe it's in there that says,
you know, the song's too long and that DJs won't
play it, like, Hey Jude's just too long a song.
(23:13):
And John Lennon comes, this is so John Lennon just
like they'll play it if it's us. He's just like,
f you man, like they're gonna play it where the
this is where like he knows where the beatles and
we're gonna do what we want. And I love the
fact that you you know, we want to get that
in there too, because they're now pushing the boundaries right,
(23:33):
they're saying, I don't care like when when yesterday becomes
a song, Yesterday is not doesn't just come out of
Paul fully formed that it originally starts as scrambled eggs,
Oh my baby, how I love your legs. That's really
the first And he's like, and they work on it
for and I want to show like the evolution of
a song, and John and Paul work on it for weeks,
and instead he's like, instead of scramble EDGs, what about yesterday?
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All my troubles seems so far away? And they're like
and Ringo's like, we're not putting drums on that. And
you know, then they're like, we're going to hire a
string quartet and you see this whole thing come together
and again it it's always these little pieces, like I
think so often we think of art as like this,
you know, as it's it comes out fully formed. But
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art is just it's always sitting in the seat and
doing the hard work. And I want every kid who
dreams of, you know, whether it's music or writing or
painting or dance, I know, you know, whatever that kid's
dream is is to know it it's it's not it's
just that hard work and working at it.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Hey so having gone through this and I know it
just came out, so I don't know. I don't know
what all the response has been. Would you do another group?
And I don't mean I don't mean a musical group,
but another group of people.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
So I don't know if you know this whatever, I'll
announce it here because no one knows it. The we
only put in our like secret newsletter thing. But we
for the fortieth book in the in the I M series,
we asked people to vote of who the hero that
they wanted. We said, it's the fourtieth book. Democracy, at
least in our book still exists, like, so let's prove it.
(25:14):
You know, we can still make democracy work. So we're
going to say to America, here are six people you
can vote on. It was it was the Right Brothers,
Maya Angelou Lebron, James, Taylor Swift, Serena Williams.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
We let people vote on it, and.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
To my surprise, I felt for sure like Taylor Swift
was going to win just because of obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And the winner was the Right Brothers.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So the fourtieth book in the series is we're going
to do the next book is Simone Biles right?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
The book after that, I haven't announced.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'll say to you who cares. We're doing Princess Diana,
which my wife is so excited by and so Diana, Yeah,
there you go. And and then we're doing the Right Brothers.
So we're doing another we are book for the fourtieth
book in the series.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Hey, can I ask you this about the Princess Diana
book real quick? Are you gonna deal with the Yeah?
Are you gonna deal with the accident?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Uh? Well, you know, we put it in the timeline.
I felt like we needed to say it, you know,
but we didn't. We decided not to say. And then
the paparazzi killed her and her kids.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Saw the pictures. We kind of let you know, we
decided to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That part out, you know, that life. We did, but
but we said how you know we did. We did
say she died, you know, we never when we did
Amelia Earhart, we weren't like and then our plane went
down in the ocean. Have a good day, kid, that's good.
You know. We don't show the play for Lincoln, but
we but that one. Usually we don't say it, but
I felt like with Allen, you had to. It was
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just an important one in the end, and and that
was when you asked about divorce. We definitely deal with
divorce in that book. It's a big one for her, sure,
and obviously not just for her and Charles, but her
and her own parents. It's like a key moment of
her life and I and there are kids.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Out there, and that's where you know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's pages dedicated to that divorce because that's what sent
her on two different mental health spirals, and that whole book,
I Am Princess Diana's is all about empathy, and so
you have to see where those spirals come from, and
that's where she learns that people are going through stuff
you don't know about. So it starts and we are
the Beatles, but obviously becomes a bigger issue in the
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books that are coming. By the way, can I just
tell you, I can't believe you can point this out.
The picture for Let it Be when they're on the
rooftop and the final live concert, in the final gig
on the roof is in all the years we've been
doing this is my favorite image I think that Chris
has drawn of anything. And I loved it so much
(27:38):
that I had Chris make for me. I had him
crop out to get back Jojoe word balloon and I've
put it on a T shirt and I just was like,
I'm making a T shirt of our own stuff, Like
I do not do that, but Chris's art is so
good that I And then the great part was then
Chris sent me a T shirt of like another image
that's one of his favorites. And now at this point
we're just wearing our own stuff, like we are just
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on at all shopping or anything.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
We're just wearing, you know, close to the beetle. And
that's what I was gonna ask if you thought about taking.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Any of these pictures and making T shirts, but you
already just jumped to the end. Now let me say this.
Let me say this, mister Meltzer on Instagram. You know
what I loved but bothered me in like one of
your little like hey, the book's coming out pictures. I
love you dressed as all of the different Sergeant Pepper's guy.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm tortured by the one of you with hair.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
By the way, let me tell you the horror story
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So that's Barnes and Noble has me doing.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, we always do story times where I read
the books, I always dress up and outfits. And I
was like, barn Noble was like, can you do we
are the Beatles for us? I'm like, I've been waiting
my whole life for you to ask me that question.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And so I have so much.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So there's one of me with hair, but there are
I think two or three different types of hair in
the story time. Plus none of those pictures have the
full best mustaches, Like I have a mustache that is
and I'm like, I don't even care if it matches
the Beatles. I'm using all of it, like everything. And
so here's the great part is my sister text me
(29:09):
last night when she saw that picture on my Instagram
and she finally she pulls, she snaps a shot of
just the close up of me with hair and says,
I finally see that we look alike.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I was like, that's a horrible picture of me.
It's like a horrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Picture of me with hair. And my sisters are like, oh,
we do look alike. I never thought we did.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
All right, last two things. The other thing I saw
that you posted, Uh this is not related to you
or your books, but more towards your nerdyville.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Did you like Thunderbolts. I love Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, you really, it's like the first mental It's the
first like mental health superhero movie you'll ever see.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I'm an all kid in the side, like it's a
you know, and again, movies are I don't care a listen,
I'm an adult. I love my Marvel movies and I
love my stuf wass blah blah blah. But those movies
really are for kids. And the reason that the show
that the movie has taken off is because and I
watched it with my own kids who saw it, is
our kids are in a mental health crisis. If you
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have a daughter like you are dealing with some level
of anxiety, like social media has wrecked our poor kids'
brains for years now, and COVID and everything else they're
dealing with and it's hard being a kid right now
in America and they and the reason why this movie
is doing so well after Marvel put out so much
crap right is because kids are going that spoke to me,
(30:36):
these people have real problems, and that's how I'm feeling
and what you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I always say the great art and especially great movies,
great stories, great books. There are never things you like
about the plot, or you like the plot or that
was great action. When you love a great book, when
you love a great movie, it's because that story told
you something, not about some character, but it told you
something about yourself. And to me, that's why we love
(31:05):
the Beatles because we feel like their story, of course
went not the Beatles, but there's stories like our story. Right.
We come from nothing, we try to build it, we
try and get there. You know, we all know what
it's like to have someone who makes us feel a
little stronger when they're by our side. And that's the
same thing with Thunderbolt. It's not to get to you know,
artsy about it, but kids are looking at that and
going like, I'm not alone in my really messed up
(31:26):
feelings in my brain right now.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And you'll see when you see the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But it's a movie really about depression and loneliness and
kids are feeling alone right now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Interesting that makes me want to see it, honestly, because,
like you said, Marvels put out a decent line of like, Eh,
this isn't really this isn't really killing it.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But the reviews on this thing are fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And That's why it's not because everyone loves another fight scene.
It's because they found another gear they You know, I
always say when I write my thrillers, when I write
even the kids' books, smaller is bigger, right right, make
us feel it in our hearts, like that page you
read about you know, the beatles about you know, about
creating together and dreaming together and laughing together and making
(32:09):
each other better. Like it's not about the seventy million
people who showed up and the millions of records we
don't put like that's nonsense to me, But I believe
in that feeling of like, man, your best friend next
to you makes you feel unstoppable and and that small
little feeling is what makes us human. And yeah, I
don't I can't say it's gonna be your favorite superhero
(32:31):
movie of all time, right, but I'm telling you you're
gonna see something in there, and you're gonna go, like
I see my kids in this thing, Like there's something
in there that's just like it's you know, I don't
want to overhype it. It's not the greatest movie of
all time, but speaking speaking in a language that people
really need right now.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hey, And then last thing.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't know if you thought of this or not,
but like right now and this I'm helping you right
now is graduation time. Wouldn't this be a good time
to get people a copy of Make Magic?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I love you for it, so I so obviously you
know I came on the show before and talked about
Make Magic. It's my my commencement address from Michigan last
year that I turned into a book, and it's called
the Little Book of Inspiration. You didn't know you needed
the perfect graduation gift to give that.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Kid in your life what.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Magic is right?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I love the fact.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You, you know, teach them. There are four types of
magic tricks if you ask magicians. There's you know, the
take outside, illusions and escapes. There's only four types of tricks.
You make something appear, you make something disappear. The third
trick is you make two things switch places. And the
fourth trick is you take one thing and you turn
it into something else, the hardest trick of all transformation.
And the book goes through all the things and it's
(33:39):
a beautiful, inspiring little gift. It's only ten dollars when
you go on Amazon or go to your local bookstore.
It's ten bucks. It's a perfect, perfect graduation gift. But
what I love is I took the my niece graduate
of Michigan this weekend, and I got to go to
watch her graduate. Last year, I was on the stage
giving the commencement address. This here, I just was really
(34:01):
sitting in the stands with a copy of my book,
holding onto my book.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm like, I know what my niece is getting this year.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I got this book.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm glad you explained that, because I saw the picture
of you sitting there reading and I was like.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
How the f did he do this? Like what?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Like, what what happened where he's reading his book with
all of this going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now that makes more sense to me? Yeah, no, no so.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But but let me just say that going and watching
graduation is so much calmer for me than staying in
front of seventy thousand people and having to give the like,
I mean, great part was is like this year after me,
they got Derek Jeter, which just proves they like bald,
handsome men from Florida exactly like that. But people are like,
(34:45):
what'd you think of Derek Jeter. I'm like, I don't
even care I didn't have to be me, like I
didn't have to like like that. I love doing it. It
is my my my make magic speech and maybe one
of my favorite things I've ever written, which is why
you know, people wanted it and asking we turned it
into a book because people were like, I I want
this text for my kid, I want this text for
my niece, I want it for my nephew. And I've
been doing this twenty five years and no one's ever
(35:06):
asked me for the text of anything I've said. But
this book just, you know, it's about empathy, and it's
about like you know, cruelty and venom and harshly judging
those we disagree with has become sport in our culture.
But cruelty and venom aren't signs of strength. There's signs
of weakness and petty and security. And what takes strength
is showing kindness to someone and showing empathy. And there's
(35:28):
this line in the book that just wrecks me every time,
and it says, one day someone's going to hug you
so tight that all your broken pieces will fit back together.
And that line, which was said to me at a
friend's funeral, just wrecked me and I put it in
the speech and it's the most photographed page when people
buy the book and give it to their kids for graduation,
(35:50):
that people send back to me. And I love the
fact cool. I love the fact that people get to
give that as a graduation gift. So thank you for mentioning.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now Across the Universe is the best Beatles soul of
all time.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'll just leave you with that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
We Are The Beatles is out and available now.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Part of the Ordinary People Change the World series. Uh, Brad,
it is good to talk to you, sir.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Good job on the book, my friend, Thank you, thank you,
love you for it. I'm gonna listen to your song now.
It is a great song.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm trying to think of it's the best song, but
it's a.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Solid it is. No, it is the best song, Brad.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
My wait, what Dianea? And what's Tyler is? I want
to hear one's favorite Beatles song.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh boy, here we go like my life, I know. Yeah,
killer and get Back.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Get Back as a killer too. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Them really as good as Across the Universe though.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Tomorrow tomorrow is the fifty fifth anniversary of Let It Be?
Is it really?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh? No?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Kidding, no kidding. Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Our marketing plan went not just dumb luck once again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
All right, Brad, we'll talk to you soon. Thank you, buddy,
Love you,
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