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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's DC one on one, Mike Jones with The Afternoon
Adventure and Tim mclrath rise against Tim. Very cool that
you guys number one played the nine thirty Club last night,
doing it again for two nights. Man, when's the last
time you were there? I tried to look, and it's
probably been forever.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, we were trying to figure it out too. We
definitely played here with Bad Religion, I think when they
were opening for us, because we did an early tour
where we.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Were opening for Bad Religion.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
But I think that may have been the last time
because I have memories of playing it. I also have
memories of like going to the Discord House in DC
and like Medi and I and Mackay and that would
have been so many years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, I look back and I saw, like, we've done
DC one of One shows, you guys have play Kfuffle
with us and Christmas shows and everything totally and over
at the film more. But I was like, I can't
find the last time at the nine thirty Club.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It would have a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
This whole tour though, It's pretty cool you guys are
doing smaller clubs, like you went from a whole summer
of festivals, big headlining spots there, and now we're gonna
take it to like one or two thousand people every night.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I find that we've done this a couple of
times over the course of our career. Where as we're
dipping our toes back in the water to kind of
restart the engines and begin like another chapter of Rise
Against It's like a cool almost like morale builder to
get into these little clubs. Remind you why you do this,
Remind you like the intimacy and the sweat and the
volume and the noise and the and the sort of
(01:24):
it's also what kind of like a real low pressure situation.
You're just having a lot of fun in a small
room with like your core fans, and the shows sell
out so fast that usually it's the people that are
most committed to your band that are in the room.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's the cream of the crop.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
No offense to people, it's the real, real fans.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's the ones that knew like and paid attention, like yeah,
I want to be in here, Not saying that anybody
out in there is not a big fan, but like, yeah,
you know it kind of people have fought hard to get.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
In those rooms.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But it's great for us too personally because it's a
closer connection and it gets us ready and kind of
primes us for like the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know. It probably feels too like it's intimate. It's
like the band is just doing our thing in the
practice room. We got some friends in here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
With us, Yeah, totally, and that's allowed us to be
really flexible with the set list too. But I feel
like the bigger the show is, the more we put
pressure on ourselves to make sure that the audience gets
to hear their favorite songs, you know, and so we're
playing the most popular songs, and here I feel like
we don't feel as much pressure to do that. It's
a little more like a jam session, you know. Like
(02:23):
last night we just called it audible because some kid
had a T shirt he wanted to hear the song
paper Wings, which like we don't play that often, and
so he made a T shirt that said play paper Wings.
But the kicker was it didn't just say play paper Wings,
it said play paper Wings cowards, And so all four
(02:44):
of us were just tickled with that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
So we're, all right, kid, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And so we like we're like, all right, we're here
to please.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, it's funny you say that because I saw on
Reddit people were saying, how during this tour so far,
you've been throwing in random song stuff you haven't played
in twenty years or something at this Yeah, and it's
cool to hear those songs where you get to do
these smaller audiences that know those and you can take
it back with them.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, we love those songs.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We're just never sure if there is an appetite out
there for people to that also love them or want
to hear them. And so it's this has been a
kind of a grand experiment, like Okay, let's play this
kind of deep cut and see if anybody really reacts
or responds. And there are people who are really enjoying it.
And you take a risk too, because I can see
the blank faces and people who are kind of like,
I don't know this song.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, but it's just sort of like that's the risk
you take when you decide to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not everything's gonna be savior. We got some other stride
example too. We want to try that out to when
you guys are here in d C. And also you know,
in Philly and New York, and Detroit and everywhere. Do
you have specific places you like to go or do
you guys get out and explore while you're in different places?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's see. Yeah, I mean, DC's got such a good
food scene. And then but I'm a big museum buff too,
so like, and your museums are mostly free, which I
think is amazing. So I made it down to the Hershorn.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
It's a great one.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's a great one.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They had a Banksy and Bascot exhibit and Barbara Krueger
is a favorite of mine, and so seeing her stuff there,
and so I love the museum. That's that's kind of
a good like off air pre show is when I
can sort of consume someone else's art, you know what
I mean, Because that's kind of like your your intake,
you know, and it's I always leave feeling inspired, I mean.
(04:21):
And DC's always had a great museums and a lot
of cool art here and that kind of thing. And
then of course I like to do the tourist thing
and roll by the White House and the Monument.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, I want to ask you too, I saw something
fun you did in Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Do people actually float down the river to work?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So they float down the river. I saw that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, I got
to ask the man about this. Well, yeah, do they
put like their suit in a bag and wrote and
float and then come to work.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
The bag is called a wicklefish and it is a
waterproof bag that you that you put your you would
put your like your suit in or your dress or whatever,
and you roll it tight and then that makes it
waterproof and then you hop in this very swiftly moving current.
Ye look pretty fast because cruising, but there's ladders all
along the shoreline. And this was in Basel in Switzerland,
(05:10):
and which is interesting because that that city one side
of the rivers Switzerland. The other side is Germany, and
if you go just a little further you're in France.
So it's kind of this really this sort of like
connection of all these countries and cultures.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Okay, now I have eight million questions.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, Number one, then when are we getting the rise
against wicklefish?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Will be a march stand? When will that be at
march dance? Number two?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
If you go from Switzerland like here in the States,
you can go to any state, right but there do
you need a passport?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
If you float down to Germany or or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You you you don't you used to until they were
European Union. Okay, so once they were a European Union
like EU, then you no longer. But the old like
because I rode my biker on that day too, the
old borders and passport controls are still there, kind of
rusting fences and offices and barricades. So yeah, you just
walk back and forth. But it is funny because like
the street signs changed, like now they're in German, you know,
(06:05):
and or they're other in Swiss, or now they're in France,
and so it's it's this sort of amalgamy. It's it's
one of the it's a place where the beauty of
Europe comes together. That's all Europeans have to interact with
other people, other cultures of the languages, and there was
happening like block to block and street to street.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's so funny too, because you know, German and Swiss
and French in a one mile radius. Here we would
take that for granted. We have English and American everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So right, yeah, it makes being being raised in an
English speaking country, it makes you very it makes very
easy to travel the world.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, it makes you aware too, of like there's so
many different things out there.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, well absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't know are we counting this as your twenty
fifth anniversary year or because the band was a different
name before, because you guys really haven't said anything about that.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's why I was wondering. But according to the history.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Books, right, we're not counting it as our twenty fifth year.
I would say next year would have to be the
year would have to count it, because I feel like
we sort of started in ninety nine, but we didn't
really play a show till like two thousand and two
thousand and one. The different name was such a short
lived it's been more talked about than it was in reality,
(07:15):
you know what I mean. We had that name for
like a split second. So I would say next year
has got to be twenty five for us.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Okay, yeah, and then for everyone listening, the old name
was Transistor Revolt. Yeah, it could be on Jeopardy one night,
so please remember that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It could be on Jeopardy one night.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That could be if you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Get to do a double Jeopardy video, that'd be really
cool to I'm going to circle back to this.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All right.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I told him to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Did you ever think, you know, looking back, it's almost
twenty five years now, did you ever think this could
actually happen, that music could be your job? Because I'm
sure there were so many doubts for you, for your family.
Everyone's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, be an
architect or something.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Trust me, I never thought it'd be still sitting here
right now talking to you. Because we grew up in
the punk rock world. We weren't very careerist. Many of
our favorite bands were working class bands that never made
it very far, you know, and so we didn't envision
a world where we would.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Still be there.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I remember when we signed to DreamWorks in like two
thousand and four put out Sirens song on the Counter
Coach was twenty years ago now, and right away we
flew to Japan, and this was like our major label debut.
It was like everyone's kind of talking to us about
how it's gonna everything's gonna change. We went to Japan
to play two nights at a three hundred capacity club
and we sold one hundred and fifty tickets to each night.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I was thinking like, oh, this isn't gonna work. Yeah,
you know, like, there's no way these shows are even
paying for my plane ticket.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
You know, this is not economically feasiy Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, Like we had a record in stores, you know,
but nobody's really buying it yet or anything. So there
were moments like that where you're just like, wow, like
do we need to can we can we keep doing this?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And luckily, you know, the the snowball gathered as it
rolled down the hill and here we are.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, something caught on though, something called on. Everyone's like, hey,
I like this rise against man. Looking at the schedule
for this year, you guys really haven't gone that long
without playing any shows. You had a couple of weeks
here and there. But were you able to use that
ton to get in the studio.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, we were.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes, we've been writing new songs, working on new songs.
We have a new album that is largely complete.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Oh okay exclusive here exclusive.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, and we want to get it out as soon
as possible. Okay, sure, yeah, we're answer for people to
hear it.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Let's hope for the earlier part of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's what we're looking at right now.
We're already kind of like plotting and scheming right now?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Okay, good, good good. I like that because you guys
never slow down. I don't know when you have time
to write music, but apparently you did, so good to
hear that. Yes, last two questions for you, Tim, since
we're in Spooky Halloween season number one. I know you
guys won't be home on Thursday. You're gonna be on
the road. What's the candy situation? Like when you are
home for Holly Lween are you handing out full size bars?
(10:02):
Are you doing a bunch of little ones?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What is the candy situation?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
We are?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
We have tons of candy in my house. And that's
largely my fault. I have a massive sweet tooth.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So guy, I love Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't really discriminate. Yeah, yeah, I love candy, and
so that's it's my guilty pleasure because I'm also like,
I'm a straightedge. I'm a married, straight edge guy who
doesn't eat meat. So you gotta give me something.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You gotta have something.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You gotta give me something. You gotta have gonna be sugar.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, it's loud music and sugar. It's gotta be that.
You gotta be amped up all the time. And do
you remember growing up like any fun costumes that you
dressed up as, any any memories.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I'm a child of the eighties, so it was
like Indiana Jones. I was one like Batman, like the
old Batman, you know, stuff like that. You know, that's
what I remember. Yeah, Star Wars, that.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, tim uh, you know, tonight's gonna be a great night.
Another loud one at the nine thirty club. And you
got the rest of the shows coming up on this
club tour right now. Rights against dot com. Everyone one
can see about tickets there, new music coming earlier than
later next year, and well we'll see what else.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Man. Thanks a lot, brother, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thank you appreciate it.