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November 14, 2025 42 mins
Jon is joined in studio by Brian McDaniel, Kathryn Johnson, and Grace Keating. The conversation turns to Gov. Walz's speech in Texas and rampant education system issues in Minnesota. The group is incensed with a wild HOA story.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good morning, James from Bell Playing James. The bonuses are
brilliant because that's going to complicate the next shutdown because
those people who sicked out last time may reconsider this
thing on the HEMP thing. I think that's interesting because

(00:35):
that could complicate Keith Ellison's position since he had sent
letters supporting that. All right, take care by, So.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's address both of these things just briefly here on
Twin Cities News Talk Hour two on a Freedom Friday
from the sixty five to one carpet Next Day Install
Studios want to welcome the guest so far in studio.
As we mentioned, Brian McDaniel Triumphant return to the show.
It's been far too long and that's one hundred percent
on me, but it is fantastic to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm sure that your public has been clamoring for me.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just so I can go through the list of all
your accolades. Here a stand up comedian, political pundit, attorney,
Minnesota governmental relations professional and hosted the Wrong About Everything
podcast where you guys just talked about Dick Cheney and
the shutdown this week.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Right, yep, yep, yep, yes we did.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Grace Keaty from American Experiment American Experiment podcast. Hello, Grace, Hello,
where's your cohort?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I am not responsible for her timing. That's kind of
what I thought you were going to say, make me,
don't put me in that position. So I just a
quick question for the both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Were talking about the shutdown and the fact that Christianome
yesterday was handing out ten thousand dollars bonus checks to
the TSA worker so far that actually stayed on the
job during the shutdown. There is the possibility that the
air traffic controllers would end up getting a check as well.
But Grace, if you were working for the government and
it shut down, are you still going to go to

(01:56):
work or are you going to kick it at home
until the government has turned back on again.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I keep going in.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
I agree with that logic of like, I still want
to have a job when the shutdown ends, as we
know it will.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, especially now.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
That I know, like, oh, I might get a ten
thousand dollars bonus check if I keep going, And that's
a pretty strong incentive that one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
The talkback mad made a good point wherein that if
there is another shutdown, and more than likely there probably
will be. If you were working for the government, I'd
be like, Hey, I'm staying on because I want to
get that sweet bonus check. Ryan mccaniel, what about you,
You staying on your government job or you can take
some time off.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
I have been a state employee during a shutdown here
the state of Minnesota, though I was deemed to be
an essential employee, which I'm sure you all would guess,
and one of my jobs was to drive down to Rochester,
open up a community center, drive back to Saint Paul,
and at the end of the day, drive back to Rochester,

(02:50):
closed down the community center, and then come back home.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I was essential.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
But if I can, a very good friend of mine's
mother passed and she was being buried in a military
cemetery in another state, and this was during the shutdown.
And the story that he told me of the men
and women that were still working at the cemetery even
though they weren't getting paid, because they had pride in

(03:18):
what they did and they knew that what they were
doing was important to people. And that is something that
I think Americans have lost. Pride in your job. It
has to be part of your personality and you should
be proud of it.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, and it's something that it's it's a learned thing.
It's a learned thing. And unfortunately, I don't see as
many and I could be wrong, but I don't see
as many champions of that of the adults around the
young people of today that are because I know when
I was, when I was younger and I started to

(03:51):
get into you know, full time work, I didn't have
that mentality towards towards my job. I ended up, you know,
developing that over over a long enough period of time.
I think there are some kids that are. And I
was raised in a great household, but it is a
learned you know, it is a learned trade.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
As a matter of fact, we have a story later
on this morning about all the Starbucks that are going
to be going on a boycott. They're going to be
shutting down because there's a handful that are unionized, and
I have a clip from Mom Donnie that will play
later on where he lays out the this is how
much the CEOs of Starbucks make, which is six thousand

(04:27):
percent more than the average worker, with absolutely no context
whatsoever of the individuals that run Starbucks and how much
of that money they're making actually goes to keep the
stores open and to go and pay those particular employees.
They're just the kids are just not being taught that
these days.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
No, I think there's been such a culture shift and
even the last maybe even like ten years, with people
my age in gen Z away from you know, taking
pride in your work, doing a good job, to do
a good job towards I'm going to show up.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
If you pay me.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
I deserve more than your giving me in almost every circumstance,
no matter what.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
The other thing we wanted to bring up briefly because
Brian McDaniel, I know you wanted to comment on it.
We were talking about this last hour and earlier in
the week, and that is this inclusion in the Continuing
Resolution regarding the regulating or reregulating of hemp derived products
that were already available here prior to the legalization of marijuana,

(05:32):
wherein edibles and THC infused drinks between five and ten
milligrams of THHC would now be regulated where you can
only have zero point four percent, which would end up
really causing a lot of harm for those businesses that
already exist and the framework of which we've already developed
here in Minnesota. That did pass through as the government reopened,

(05:53):
and now there's a year to essentially sort this out
in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I know you wanted to add your thoughts on this.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, yeah, this is something that I think is a
big deal.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
I mean, with full disclosure, I represent liquor stores, so retailers,
and you know, they don't necessarily necessarily care what they sell.
They want to sell what the people want, and this
is something that the people want. You know, younger people
are not drinking beer, they are drinking spirits, but kind
of higher end things. This is where people are making

(06:21):
their money now. And based on what the law has been,
all of these different employers have been staffing up, they've
been making product, they've been selling product, and then all
of a sudden they have the rug pulled out because
the liquor lobby was able to say, we're not competing
very well, so we're going to game the system so

(06:42):
that our main competitor essentially loses their business. That's something
that we should all have a problem with. And if
President Trump and Keith Allison are on the same side.
Something's up.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I just can't stand the fact that well, let
me rephrase this.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You can look to the imputus of how this all
started in Mitch McConnell moving forward to add in these
restrictions at the federal level coming from really a disingenuous
place of personal motivation. And typically when that happens, what
ends up being created out of that is something that
ends up being a mess because it's not coming from

(07:20):
a genuine place of concern. It was for personal political
political gain. What was Ellison's reason to go and hop
on board with this was he catering to another business
sector within the state in going to ban these well
winning to ban these products as well.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
And I know that the craft brewing industry has met
with Ellison this week, the Minnesota version of it, and
one of the reasons why they did that was to
try to ascertain why on earth is he? And then
you know many other attorneys general are taking this position.
It's a little bit hard to nail down what exactly
the issue is other than just a pure love of

(07:57):
regulating things. This is something that can be regulated safely
without destroying the industry, and that they're choosing not to
do that. I think in the next year we are
going to work this out, but only if the American
people kind of, like you know, call bs on this.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
It seems as if it's one of those issues right
now wherein and just in a few days when it
popped up around the end of the shutdown. The shutdown
ending ended up obviously being the much larger issue, But
this particular issue relating to these HEMP regulations was gaining
a lot of attention online, but again it was drowned
out because of the desire to get the government back open.

(08:37):
And I would imagine that once we get a little
further down on the timeline.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You're right, this is going to be a.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Much bigger issue as these industries go and speak out
against what has happened with this bill. Catherine Johnson, American
Experiment rounds out Our Freedom Friday and studio guess Hello.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
Good morning. Okay, it's big alcohol. No, it's a new
big to me. I didn't know there was big alcohol,
so I'm interested in this story.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh there's big alcohol.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, big alcohol is how it started with Mitch McConnell, right, Yes,
the bourbon industry in his state wanted them to go
and regulate it because they and I would be really
interested to know if they were looking at any sort
of hard data. I mean, I want to believe that
they were looking at hard data. But at the same time,
there's also a part of me that goes, were they
just making an assumption that people were going to trade

(09:26):
in their bourbons for THHC laced drinks or were they
actually looking at information to say, yes, people are deciding
to go with one over the other.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
Well, alcohol usage is down, I think clearly, especially among
people in gen Z. You see, people are drinking a
lot less. I know lots of people who don't drink
for health reasons, and I don't know that it's true
that they're trading in alcohol for THHC, But to some
degree I think it exists, and I think they're doing
anything they can to try and get people drinking again.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, well, in one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
You know, from the retailer standpoint, you know, it used
to be that llow beer is what you know, made
sure that the lights are on, and then everything else
was kind of where you found your profit. That's not
really the case anymore.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
People. You know, if you go to your local liquor store,
which you should do.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
You know, you will find that it's seltzer, seltzer seltzer
and there's less less shelf space, less cooler space for
beer and other things. And this is just a shift.
It doesn't mean that it's not going to shift back.
I mean, when when we were kids, John, you know,
people weren't drinking bourbon. But now now bourbon is a

(10:32):
huge thing, including including with me. So you know, if
you can't compete, then you need to look at your
business model. And you know, frankly for big alcohol, which
absolutely is a thing. If you can't beat them, join them,
start making seltzer. That's what the people want.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well for me, when when I was a kid, it
was forties of Old English eight hundred. Oh yeah, of
which I'm sure that both Grace and Catherine are completely
lost on what I'm talking about Old English eight hundred either.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
No, I already learned about Costco spice rum, so down't
thirst Oh so good.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's like a liquid alcoholic chocolate shake. That's how I
described that, the Costco spikes rum. It's very divisive. By
the way, I love it. I think it's fantastic. It
is so yummy, But there are I'm gonna get posts
online right now on next going. No, my husband uses
it as paint center. You just you just you wait,
you wait. Well, they rebranded it, they had a different

(11:28):
and I'm not gonna wipe out on this.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I could, I could. They had start something.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
They had a Kirkland version of the spice Rum that
was really really good, and then it went away and
then they weren't care. All they were carrying was Captain
Morgan's and I love me some Captain Morgan's. I don't
know if you know this, Grace, but Captain Morgan's his
thirst was legendary.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Mm.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Wherever he went, people would just go that Captain Morgan's.
He is so thirsty.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You gotta get a little Captain.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Then you okay.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And then they ended up bringing forward the new Costco
Spike Thrum, which is a different recipe, much more festive.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
It's perfect for the holidays.

Speaker 8 (11:58):
Justice for Captain Morgan the thirsty boy.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Coming up. Governor Tim Walls has caught in another lie.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You guys probably haven't heard about this one, and it's
being called out from one of the most left leaning
news sources in the state as well. So we'll share
this with you. We'll get the thoughts of our Freedom
Friday group this morning. Grace and Catherine from American Experiment,
Brian McDaniel in studio, and your comments from the iHeartRadio App.
Brought to you by Lyndahl Realty. Those talkbacks coming up
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Speaker 4 (12:52):
My name is John Justice and joining us in studio
this morning.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
What do you usually lead with Brian McDaniel, Do you
lead with stand up comedian?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Do you lead with hosts of the Wrong About Everything Podcast?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I prefer Emmy Award winner.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Okay, Emmy Award winner, all Right?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
The regional ones count.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Brian McDaniel, Also in studio, the Salt and Pepper of
Minnesota Conservative Podcasting Catherine Johnson and Grace Keating. I never
asked you, guys permission from Center of the American Experiment
to give you that title.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I guess I've just bestowed it upon you.

Speaker 8 (13:23):
So it's gotten mixed reviews.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Has it okay? Well, externally, I don't mind it.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
But if they're if they're a saltan pepper, does that
make you Spinderella dated reference?

Speaker 9 (13:35):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Nicely done. I feel like I was the one concern
that I had with.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Inviting Brian McDaniel in this Morning, although I think, you know,
the company is good, but the age differential between the
two of us, and well.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
Yes, I didn't get that one. And I don't know
if my thirsty one landed either, Like a guy is thirsty?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Like?

Speaker 8 (13:54):
Is that something that?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I was choosing it to go down on that road.
I was still you know, I like, I like my
His thirst was legendary joke. But you know, I'm just
the host to sometimes I'm sensitive that way.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Let's go here. Governor Tim Walls was caught another lie.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'm shocky way.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
What's funny about this? This is a story from Michelle
Griffith in the Minnesota Reformer.

Speaker 9 (14:20):
The lie.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
The way that they describe it is Walls made an
incorrect assertion. This story is ridiculous on so many levels.
Governor Tim Walls was in Texas on Thursday. I have
no idea why he's down in Texas. Anybody knows why
he's in Texas. He was speaking to an audience there
on the Texas education system and essentially telling the people

(14:43):
of Texas how to improve their education system.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh my gosh, has he looked at our rankings? I
don't think yes.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So we could just spend the next hour just tearing
that aspect of this whole story apart. In that meeting, however,
he said that Minnesota's graduation rates are improving.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
We'll get well, we'll get back to that in a moment.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Free school meals sets up students for success, of course,
it's one of the few things that he knows he
can tout. And universal pre kindergarten education gives students a
leg up. That's great, but Minnesota doesn't have universal pre
k On top of that, this is the Minnesota Reformer,
which is a very I mean, you know, an unabashed

(15:24):
left wing publication.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I like to go to them because it's good to
get the other the other side.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
On top of that day right, childcare in Minnesota is
among the most expensive in the nation. So he was
speaking at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, where he
spoke for nearly an hour.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Oh those poor people. Walls was asked.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
How he would advise Texans to improve educational outcomes for
pre K through twelfth grade students. He said, first, defend
public schools. Then he went on into all the ways
the Minnesota education system is superior to other states. We
got better achievement, We have less truancy and better graduation rates.

(16:06):
We made sure that students were secure in their persons,
we were secure in their food, we were secure at
home with the child tax Credit. And then in Minnesota,
we have universal pre K for everyone, so students come
ready to do what they need to do. This wasn't
even like a slip of the tongue wherein he's touting this,

(16:28):
like does he believe that we.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Have we have universal pre K or is this just.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Another circumstance where he's just straight up lined everybody.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Well, you know, I think by his own admission, he's
just a knucklehead who sometimes says things. And this is
one of the least attractive things about Tim Wallas because
it's baffling what he chooses to be loose with the
truth on because how many times has he said something
that is easily, verifiably wrong And this is another instance

(17:01):
of that. And I think he just gets ahead of himself,
and to a certain extent, probably you know, felt like
for a number of years he wasn't called on it.
But he's a public figure now, a national public figure.
Now he's not going to get away with it. And
good on the Reformer for actually, you know, doing journalism,
and they're really good at that.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
That's the thing, because the other stats that he's chosen
to highlight in this talk are chosen to cover up
his record on education in Minnesota, which is terrible. Half
of our kids can't read or do math at grade level.
But instead he turns around, he says, oh, well, you know,
we have free school lunches, which sets them up for
the success that they're not having. Or oh, our graduation

(17:42):
rates are really high, okay, but proficiency is lower than ever.
So he has these they're not quite mistruths, but they're
carefully chosen facts.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
To cover up the reality of what's happening in Minnesota.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
But then you're right, he turns around and for some
reason decides to just throw in a blatant, a blatant
lie or untruth in there.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Friend my best friend growing up, And I'm ninety percent
sure he doesn't listen to me. Now, if he does,
my apologies, But everything I'm about to say is true.
But my best friend growing up, he was a liar
and there was no getting around it.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
He was just a liar.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But what was really interesting about it was it was
never anything of major importance. It was all just very small,
little I guess what you would classify as like a
white lie. I couldn't never tell you any anything that
he said that was a lie that had any large,
massive consequence in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And it reminds me of Walls.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm not trying to provide excuses here, but in the
way that he does go and speak these lies. Now
it's much different because he's the governor of a state
that he shouldn't be saying these things, and these are
policy items. But at the end of the day, kind
of like you mentioned a moment ago and describing it,
you know, they're relatively doing.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
That thing with my fingers harmless.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But I often wonder if that's what he just deals with,
if he is like my old childhood friend that just
has that problem with is telling these little lies to
try to bolster whatever story it is that they're telling,
and that could be the reason why he did this
in this case.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Well, and as I said earlier, it's baffling because these
are not things that are kind of playing on the margins.
These are things where you can look them up in
a book. You got the everyone's got a pocket robot,
you know that they can check check his facts on
and time after time after time he gets busted on this.
I think the only thing that's more surprising is that

(19:32):
it hasn't disqualified him for higher office or the current office,
because this is something that whether you like him as
a person or don't like him as a person, or
think good things have happened or not, this is something
where if you want to have faith and trust in
your government, you have to believe that the information you're
being given by your elected officials is even true, and

(19:53):
quite often that's just not the case.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, and that speaks to the larger issue right now
of just the Democrat Party in general, and something that
we've been talking about the show so often is that
among the egregious things that Democrats have been involved in
or said, and even those that have run for office
and won elections, you know, Walls doing these lies is
like way down on the list comparatively speaking to other

(20:18):
things that voters have just gone and given a complete
free pass on.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I don't think he's thinking that deep on this.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Let me go to the talkback though, because they raise
a point and this is actually answered in this article
from the Minnesota Reformer.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Are you sure we don't have universal pre K I
noticed the conversation went away a couple of years ago,
and now we have preschool at our elementary schools.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
So here's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm actually going to address that because surprisingly, and this
is one of the reasons why I wanted to grab
this article from the Minnesota Reformer, is they go to
specifically address why Governor Tim Walls in their mind, was,
you know, put out that incorrect assertion. So we'll share
with you more of what they had to say, and
also coming up along with your talkbacks, we're going to
dive into the story one woman's lawn fight against her hoa.

(21:04):
This story is not to be missed. There are so
many bizarro layers to this. I just envisioned myself being
a homeowner having to deal with a neighbor that was
going through what she was going through. We'll give you
all the details coming up with our in studio guests
on Freedom Friday here on Twisted his news talk AM
eleven thirty and one three five FM.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Good morning, and I love your show, John.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
You got it right.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
There are some people that are incapable of differentiating from
the cup from the false.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Their narrative is the reality for them, and that's why
they're always preaching this subjective.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I love me some Louke who's always got my backup.
Good morning, John, great shows.

Speaker 10 (21:52):
Always expect your discussion with your guests about Tim Wall.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
She used the word bathing. What's fampling to me is
how anyone could vote for this line of food. Have
a great day, Games, and.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's why I like Brian McDaniels.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I have no idea what she's referring to, but a
nice little, nice little shout out to Brian McDaniel.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's get a little terry eyde over here.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thanks Mom.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Tim Wall shows all the signs of being pathological liar.
He lies compulsively and so easily. I think he doesn't
even realize he's done it till after the fact, and
then he has to go and either try to defend
it or tell more lies to try to cover those lies.
And then of course you start forgetting what's the truth.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
But he doesn't, you know, he only goes and calls
it out when he gets called out on it. He's
never there's never any there's never any self reflection where
Walls is correcting himself before somebody else goes in and
does it. To the previous talkback that we had regarding
whether or not we have universal pre k here and
minute Nesota, it is Twin City's News talk from the

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sixty five to one carpet Next Day Install Studios.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
As a talk backer mentioned, we.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Have Brian McDaniel and studio with us this morning, along
with Catherine and Grace from Center of the American Experiment.
And I was surprised that Governor Tim Wall's making this
comment at this Texas Tribune festival, wherein they decided to
have our governor go and talk to a Texas to
audience group of educators on how to improve their education.

(23:26):
It makes no sense, but he said that we have
universal pre K here in Minnesota, and we don't. The
article goes on to say Minnesota lawmakers in recent years
have taken steps to open up more free voluntary pre
kindergarten seats, but it's far from enough to cover all
the pre K students. The legislature last year agreed to

(23:47):
fund another fifty two hundred seats by fiscal year twenty
twenty six in the state's voluntary PreK program that provides
free school for four year olds. Minnesota will soon have
a total of twelve three hundred and six slots available statewide.
This is where it takes another turn, though, and I
was really surprised by this. Wallstuted Minnesota's better achievement, but

(24:09):
academic outcomes for Minnesota students have been stag as stagnated
since the pandemic in both reading in math. The Reformer
analysis of test scores from twenty nineteen to twenty five
found that less than one in eight school districts have
returned to the pre pandemic proficiency rates. He says Waltz

(24:29):
is right about high school graduation, just over eighty percent
of Minnesota' high school seniors graduated. But then they actually
go and talk about how what we've talked about, and
that is the lack of proficiency in reading and in
reading in math.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
They always bring up the pandemic too, And if you
go and you look at the numbers, the chart of
student how they're doing, student proficiency and reading in math
is just down from before the pandemic. It just keeps
going down. And then you hear this graduation rate thing
all the time, which is not even necessarily a good
thing if you're graduating people from high school sending them

(25:03):
to college, which is what they want to get into
a lot of debt and not be prepared. And then ultimately,
how do those kids do? I don't know that they're
doing better.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Is there any possibility?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm just going to back up from this article a
little bit, because again I was somewhat surprised that the
Minnesota Reformer, you know, even pushed back the way that
they did it all and clarifying what Walls is saying.
I think we all agree that the Walls is vulnerable
in this historic third run for governor. But do you
think there's any chance that there might be a Democrat

(25:34):
that would step up to challenge him. I mean, how
vulnerable would he need to look beyond where he is
now for another Democrat to step in and to give
him a bit of a primary run.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, I really don't see that.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
I think there need to be some scandal or some
health you know issue allah Biden that would that would
make somebody do that. I think that there is, you know,
a real lack of enthusiasm. I'm with Democrats about Tim
Walls running for a third term, but not to the
point where somebody of any substance or a real challenge, would.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Would you step up.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
The Minnesota Democratic Party is also in a position where
they're having to host listening sessions because people are so
dismayed with how things are going. Where a bunch of
people last night stood up and complained about the Minnesota
Democratic Party. So I don't think they're as organized and
put together as we often see.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Them coming from the right.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, and this underscore is what the GOP needs to
do and make sure that you know, we get our
ducks in a row.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
We don't eat our own.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
We were talking off the air a moment ago just
about the governor candidates and how there really isn't anybody
that is setting the world on fire. I think that's
partly because everybody sees how vulnerable Walls is and there's
an expectation that it should be potentially a slam dunk
win against him, and so therefore there is a high

(26:59):
expect on all of the Republican candidates that have thrown
their name out there, wherein people are going, well, I
don't know if that's the person to do it, and
I don't know if that's the person to do it,
And I almost feel as if it's kind of an
unfair assessment because there's a lot of really good candidates
candidates running. I feel it's more about Walls and the
lack of enthusiasm than it is the candidates themselves.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
But I could be but I could be wrong.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, I feel, I personally feel looking ahead to twenty
twenty six, that Conservatives need.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
To just get behind one person.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
I really like the field of contenders that we have,
and what the left does better than us is unity
and you know, getting their marching orders and getting everyone
on the same team, and that's what conservatives struggle with.
You know, ideologically, it makes sense, but if we want
to defeat Walls. We can't go into this thinking that
it's going to be a slam dunk, that he's so ulnerable, vulnerable,
that we can pick anyone and they will be fine.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Well, and here's the thing you need to find. We
need to find the candidate that is going to put
together the best state even if they fall short. If
you have the wrong person at the top of the ticket,
that affects everything down the line. And you know, you
might not care who the governor is. I'm sure if
you're listening to the show, you care very much. But

(28:13):
it goes all the way down to state representative. We
have a tie in the Missilda House. We have a
one vote Democrat majority in the Senate. Who we put
up for governor will matter a ton, not just for
governor for you know, attorney General, Secretary of State, things
like that, but the legislature itself. And if you don't
want another DFL trifecta, then you need to get behind

(28:37):
the most electable Republican for governor. We have a couple
that can do it.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
But don't don't you know whether it'say get rid of
the good for the perfect, don't do that.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
You're pretty optimistic John, I try to be It's Friday,
that's true. I'm not sure if I'm there with you,
but I like the attitude.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh good, well, thank you. I'm glad you're here. I
appreciate it. And you know what, it smells lovely in
studio right now.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I is a heterosexual male like the smell of women.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
This is only because it actually really does. Because Sam,
I don't mind saying he needed some lotion, and both
of the ladies in studio were kind enough to oblige.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
We pulled out three options. Actually we had a whole
selection prepared for him.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
That was such a stereotypical thing that happened to off
the air that just made me laugh because Sam had
asked me, It's like, do you have any lotion in studio?
And I'm like, no, I have, honey, I have cleaning products.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Why is that comparable?

Speaker 8 (29:29):
Why why don't have it?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't know what his ration that was.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Maybe he just had something that needed to be slathered
and you can slatter, honey, God, but I immediately defaulted
to Grace and Catherine were like, hold.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
On a second. I have multiple times uncented the best
person I walked in the studio. They were like presented
in front of me like a like a in a row.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
Here's the thing I carry around this person. It's like
ten pounds, okay, and it's got so much crap in it.
So whenever it comes in handy, I've got like a
dudad someone needs.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I am pumped, I got it. I'm ready to go.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
I'm lugging it on for a reason. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm sorry if you were offended Brian that I didn't
ask you if you had any elotionan, But that was
that was a guess on my part, and I figured
that I was probably pretty right in my assessment.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Sometimes I'd just like to smell pretty.

Speaker 11 (30:13):
Just using his freedom Friday to ask a question a
long time listener here, whatever happened to Don from Burnsville?
Just I know he was up in age and just
if anybody knows love an update, I haven't heard his
voice for a long time. Talk to you guys later.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I don't have any confirmation of this whatsoever, but I
know the last time that we talked to Don he
was in his nineties. I'm fairly certain he's probably passed
and passed away. That's my guess, but I haven't heard
from Don from Burnsville. He threatened to no longer listen
any longer when Sam had left producing the show, but
then he still was. And I remember shortly after Drew
had passed away, he had reached out a couple times,

(30:52):
and then I didn't hear from him ever again. He
may just not be listening anymore, but my guess is
he's probably passed away. Brian McDaniel goes back with Don.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I do was.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
It triggered me a little bit hearing his name.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
All right, let's go here. Bonnie Scott story from the
Minnesota Star Tribune. I've been saving this all week for
you guys.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
When Bonnie Scott started planning the yard of her new
home in the church Hill Farms subdivision off of County
Road twenty fourth in Plymouth, any familiarity anybody with that
area and oh yeah, yeah, okay. She thought it might
one day become a neighborhood gathering place for people and
animals alike.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
She wanted to attract lightning, bugs, frogs, and wood ducks.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
She hired a company to install a meadow of low
growing grasses in the front and tall swaying Prairie natives
in the back. Three years after she bought the house,
the property has become the focal point in the neighborhood,
but not the way the Scott wanted. Driven over the yard,

(32:02):
They've mowed it without her permission. Scott enlisted police and
a private detective to find the offenders, and now some
neighbors stay away from her property. Okay, so what I
want to do here, We're going to work through this story.
Oh it gets better if you have any horror stories
that you want to share, whether it is your neighbor,

(32:25):
whether it is your hoa, because that's where this battle ensues.
Leave us your talkback comments on the iHeartRadio app as
we work through this story. Now, thankfully I have not
had any personal issues in the place that we currently reside.
I will say there is a couple of blocks over
there is a house that I've never seen so much
junk piled grills, washing machines, dryers, lawn chairs, like fifteen

(32:52):
different large trash cans that you would get from the city.
But thankfully it wasn't mine. It wasn't my block.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
And you'll have to re up your avoid curse words
because I can't imagine anything that gets people more fired
up than HOA issue.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Thank you for that suggestion. People have gotten a bottymouth.
That's it's laid on the talkbacks. I don't know what
that's about. Last month, the conflict escalated.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Bonnie Scott sued at Churchill Farms and their Homeowners Association,
asking a court to rule that the fines it levied
against her are unenforceable because of state law. Scott's argument
could test the limits of that law, which says the
cities and towns can't restrict native landscaping, but says nothing
about hoa's Nobody wins in a lawsuit, she said, but

(33:37):
at this point that law needs to be better. So
Churchill Farms HOA answered in court, writing that Scott maintained
her yard in an unsightly manner to create a condition
which is indecent and offensive to the senses.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Oh mynd what did it smell?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Scott has been fined two hundred and fifty dollars by
the HOA as of that filing, which actually is rather
small considering right, which asks the court to foreclose on
her own if necessary, to pay those fees and HOA
legal costs I've always wanted to resolve this from the beginning,
but we still want to resolve this amicably, and said
the president of the of the HOA. I cannot relate

(34:18):
to the mindset of an individual who wants to take
on that fight over there over there over their yard.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Like but again, that's just that's just me. I'm I
would want to clean yard.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
But if I wanted to do that and somebody was
against it in the neighborhood and looking at it, I'd
be like, Okay, fine, I guess I'll move on with
with life.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well, and you know, the.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Hoas are out of control in Minnesota. This is something
where where at the legislature they are trying to figure
out what are some ways that they can kind of
rein back some of the some of the power that
the hoays have. But you know, there are just people
in this world who don't feel like they're in control
of their own lives, which means that they need to
then try to control other people's lives. I mean, I

(35:00):
don't know exactly what this, you know, pollinator friendly front
yard looked like we're going to get into it, but
I don't know, if you know, they got bears walking around.
I don't know, but but something tells me that there's
there is a way to get to yes on this.
It's just people are are are not willing to work together.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Does not prairie grass need to burn about once every
three to four years?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I have no way, I have no anybody an expert
on prairie grass, Sam, Nope, nobody, I have no I
have no idea.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
It is a freedom Friday. That's why I wanted to
share your comment.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
So Churchhill Farms just give you a background to this
community and three houses, tightly trimmed yards, three car garages.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Pond rings with native plants.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
On a recent fall morning, a red winged blackbird was
making a racket next to Scott's screened back porch.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Sounds like a very idyllic, look at that chinks by me,
a cook.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Also in the background was the symphony of gas powered
leaf blowers gathering the fallen autumn splendor from her neighbor's lush,
green lawns. Scott, sixty three, was a marketer for a
medical technology company before she retired and moved to Mine,
Oh moved to Minnesota from Seattle.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Is anybody here shocked.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
By this.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Puzzle pieces coming together who just hired the other? Was
it Seattle?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, Seattle just ended up electing their socialist mayor two.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, they had had a really wackadoodal council and then
they pulled it back, and now they're kind.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Of going back.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Now they're going the Mom Donnie way.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
Oh my gosh, native landscapes, doing that thing with my fingers.
I live in South Minneapolis and we have doing that
thing with my fingers. Beautiful boulevards which basically are just
junk piles of weeds in their yards as well, just
so they don't have to mow, and they have little
signs that say, excuse the weeds while we feed the bees.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
It looks horrendous.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
They had that at the park over by the Blaine
Baseball Complex. When I would go through Mountain biking there,
there would be these huge swaths where they.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Wouldn't go and mow, and they'd have the little signs
we're doing this for the.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Bees, which was actually discovered to be bogus. There was
a study that came out that said that hole growing
the lawn and not cutting it for the bees was
all was all ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Yes, and an excellent throwback to one of our Golden
Turkey nominees from a year past, when the State of Minnesota,
maybe I think it was the State of Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
Think so, some Minnesota government entity was paying people to
not mow their lawns.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Yep, for the bees. The bees are fine.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
You might as well put a sign out that says,
I'm just lazy.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
When she bought her home in Plymouth in twenty twenty two,
she immediately wanted to convert the lot into native landscaping
that would require little maintenance.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Maybe she just didn't want to mow. I'm seeing an
incentive to get a rock lawn. Go that route a
rock lawn.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
Okay, this is in Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, I know. Rock longs are president are prevalent in
the Southwest.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
My favorite was when there was this trend going on
of rock lawns and people decided to paint them green. Okay,
they weren't full of anybuddy, but people were actually going
and doing that.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
The only thing that was great about rock lawns when
I was living in the Southwest was when you got
the weeds that popped up. If you waited just long enough,
you could take them out with a blowtorch.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, you just burn them, just burn him on the
rock line. Not the factly the most safest thing. You
gotta have a bucket of water nearbyrah ose.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
But why did you ever leave?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
That's a good question in court documents, Churchill Farms HOA said.
The August of that year, the board member met with
Scott at a neighborhood event urged her to submit her
plans to an architectural review committee for her lawn. It
was the first of several such requests, but Scott refused
because she wasn't making any architectural changes.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Okay, I could.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I can see that that makes that makes a lot
of sense. Getting further into the story. They declined to
talk in detail, that would be the HOA president about
the lawsuit, but describe Churchill Farms HOA in general as
light touch. We're not the bad hoas ones that are
in like high density condominiums where they really need to

(39:17):
control how everything looks and feels. You know, if you
have to say you're not one of the bad hoa's,
I'm going to venture I guess that you probably are
not like the other hoas.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
It's kind of what it sounds like, right, Good.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Morning, saw this person, this lady that had her yard redesigned,
and then the vandals and people mowing, and her hiring
a private detective and a security company, and now she's
suing for this and suing for that. It just reminds
me of somebody with a boltload of money that doesn't
know what to do with their wife and they need

(39:53):
to self justify their existence. My opinion, have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
I want to go down the road of that mentality.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
However, when you consider like what we talk about on
a daily basis and the things that people will dig
their heels in over like, it really shouldn't come as
a as a as a big surprise that a woman
like this who wanted to have this vegetation would be
absolutely willing to fight tooth and nail to keep her

(40:23):
native lawn landscape, even if it means spending you know,
tons of money to go and do so.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Like, on the one hand, you go, why would you
ever do that? Irrational person wouldn't. But people dig their
heels and over issues like this all the time.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
An irrational person wouldn't probably make their yard into a
prairie in the first place. So there's also that I
mean in defense of the HOA. I wish my HOA
was a little bit stricter. Honestly, there's some things going
I have a beautiful neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
But people are putting out these blinking lights these days.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Do you have any of these.

Speaker 8 (40:54):
Where you're looking out your window and someone's blinking, Like
the Christmas lights aren't just you know sagne it got
like or for Halloween. You know, they're all different colors.
I don't want I want uniformity, none of the blinking lights.
So maybe I'm on the side of the bat ajoe.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
So this was if this woman was living next to you,
I would go insane. You would mow the lawn, so
I would go out.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
We have a lot of talkbacks that are rolling in.
We're going to get to your thoughts coming up. More
details on this story as well.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Also in the.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Stack, spandex clad activists versus Ice or workout in Wokeness.
Apparently things have gotten so interesting in Portland in their
continued battle against the ice facility there, they've taken to zoomba.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Routines in front of the ice facilities. So we'll get
into that. More of your thoughts as well. Talk back
of the day on the way.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
With our guests this morning, we have Grace and Catherine
in from the American Experiment podcast, Brian McDaniel as well,
and your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app Coming up on
twin Citay's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh
three five FM.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Oh those more people
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