Hour 3 : Jeff O’Brien, Liz Collin Joins

Hour 3 of the show begins with the continuation of the conversation with Jeff O'Brien. Then Liz Collin joins the show to talk about the latest news stories at Alpha News.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Quinn City's News Talk Hour three. Hey, I'm eleven thirty
one or three five FM from the sixty five to
one Carpet Next Day Install Studios.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
My name is John Justice.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We are joined in studio lawyer extraordinaire Jeff O'Brien as
we work through the confusion. And it appeared to be panic,
although you know it's hard to tell based off of
the way media covers this stuff. I'm working off a
version here from the Star Tribune. In every single news outlet,
it was running with the headline yesterday, federal shutdown could

(00:47):
to kill Minnesota's hemp derived THHC markets. The spending bill
passed by the US Senate would essentially ban hemp based
THHC products. So this is the bill that passes center,
we'll be voted on tonight. It would effectively ban hemp
products containing more than zero point four milligrams of THHC.
This is the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis. The legal the

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limit with outlaw intoxicating based products in Minnesota, which allows
edibles containing up to five milligrams of THC preserving and
beverages containing ten milligrams.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
And as we were laying out last hour.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's it's worth noting that the products that we're talking
about have been legal here for those over twenty one
for quite a long time, because they're essentially derivatives coming
from hemp that don't fall under the legal classification of
recreational or even medical marijuana, your Delta eight, your Delta
nine specifically, and here in Minnesota we'd actually gone about

(01:47):
in regulating and making those products available for how long, actually, Jeff, do.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
You know how long?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Since twenty twenty two?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So twenty twenty two, those have been a bit so
it's actually not that not that long. No, okay, I
want to get to a couple of comments here, and
then I went to finish your story regarding Mitch McConnell.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Let's go here. Oh you played that already.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I love well what the government gets when goalg and
we start dogging legal stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
All of a sudden, he fought what from being a
drug that was.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Consumed by stoners who have caught out to being authored
PC humors. Well, people have been purchasing these for for
a while now. I think the stereotype of these only
being consumed by the by the stoner crowd. From your
days to confused. Confused has kind.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Of gone out the window.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, I don't know why that on somebody who was
talking about one of the issues this will cause is
that no federal regulated car carrier will transport any of
these products.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It makes these products unshippable.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now, that happened just recently prior to this issue relating
to the bill that the Senate passed and will be
voted on tonight. Right, the issue of being able to
to mail these products here in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, well, yeah, under the under the change in the
law here in Minnesota where they were, you know, there
was this separate law under chapter one fifty one where
these products were the hemp drived THG had been governed
by and then moving that under three forty two, which
is with the cannabis law. As part of that change,
you are going to have to have in the hands

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of a licensed transport acue they have a cannabis transport license.
So that was already going away under the Minnesota law,
the shipping across state lines because or shipping with a
national carrier, because they weren't applying for licenses to be
able to ship those products.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So this is this is when here in Minnesota we
ended up taking these products that were already available and
putting them under the same umbrella as the recreational marijuana
that was legalized, and therefore took away the ability to sell,
to to ship the products that were already being sold.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, this with this these low potent potents see hemp
edible licenses. By putting all the hemp products underneath the
cannabis law was already going to change some some parts
of the of the industry here.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
They did they need to do? They need to do that?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Could they have carved out just to continue to allow
the individuals that were selling the low potency ones to
continue to mail.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's an ongoing discussion. You know, there's there's a lot
of kind of trial and error with these laws. Obviously,
the part of that is to eliminate the illicit market
and you know, start a you know, a thriving legal
industry and so there you know, it's it's but there's

(04:40):
a lot of pushback from the hemp industry players on
some of these changes over labeling and shipping and all
sorts of things. So we'll see where it goes. There's
been ongoing discussions. I know, there's continued discussions with legislators
about potential fixes, but this, this federal thing, was just
something that we really didn't need. We kind of, my view,

(05:02):
has let the states like Minnesota work it out on
their own.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Why would McConnell introduce a bill to allow this and
then a few years later introduce a bill to restrict it.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It makes no sense lyrics Jeff O'Brien, which is like
to tell us, sorry, oh.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
It makes a lot of se well, not a sense,
but it is definitely an explanation. So Mitch McConnell is retiring,
and he has a my understanding, he has a library
at Louisville and they're looking to expand it and he
needs there needs to be donors to be able to
expand the McConnell library. And he's in Kentucky, and so

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the bourbon industry is a large factor in Kentucky, and
they have money and they are willing to fund as
I was told they was there. You know, he needs
contributions to and he's not getting having to face voters again,
So what the heck, let's just shut the loophole and
fund that library. So that's this is the kind of

(06:06):
stuff that make people upset about politics. It's regularly federal
politics when you're trying to a bill to this continuing
resolution to reopen the government, to get the snap benefits
going to get federal air traffic workers back to work
at the federal workers back to work at.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
The military paid and incomes.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
This slipped in someplace in the bill because somebody needs
it for some pet project back at home. This is
why people get turned off by by electoral politics and
politicians because they do this stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
We really did bury the lead on this because this
was this was the larger issue about this whole this
whole thing. Let me play this talk back here because
it plays into what we're talking about right now in
Twin Cities News Talk with Large Shortenaar Jeff O'Brien.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
I really wish I considered with leadership right now. I'll
be focused on real issues and real problems, not going
after gas station Delta eight and Delta nine, which is ridiculous. Yeah,
it sucks to hear when teenagers get a hold of
stuff like you know, mom and DIDs, dash of alcohol,
hard drugs like math and whatnots that are sold in schools,
and you know, you know how horrible these kids are

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going to take Delta eight and Delta nine, have a
little bit of fun and go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I want to go back to what he first said,
I wish the conservative leadership, you know, would would be
focusing on real issue and problems. But what we just
demonstrated was it wasn't necessarily conservative leadership doing that thing
with my fingers. It was one individual with one particular
pet project, with one particular interest, and a lot of
individuals that were kind of completely unaware of the impact

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that it would have on a state like Minnesota that's
already been regulating these particular items. I mean, should they
be up to spin on it, Sure they should. But
at the same time, you're also talking about an issue
that I think most people weren't even aware of.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And that's the part of this whole thing that try
to mean that's as well.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Ran Paul made an attempt a couple of nights ago
to get this provision stripped out of the CR and McConnell,
you know, filed a motion to table it and it
got like seventy six votes, And so it's I think
it's more I wouldn't read too much for those that

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are kind of ready to hit the panic button. I
wouldn't necessarily hit it yet. I think that there is
a push to get this thing done and get the
government reopened, and then there is going to be a
big push to revisit this, and that's the whole point
of the one year deferment is to revisit this. And
so you can definitely tell from some of the comments

(08:42):
that I've seen on X from the Republican side, they
are definitely feeling the heat from this. I don't think
they want to go into the midterms, at least I
hope they don't want to go into the midterms having
basically killed an industry. So we'll see where it goes.
But you know, it's again the larger issue. If they
would just deal with rip the band aid off and

(09:04):
deal with the cannabis rescheduling, we wouldn't be sitting over
here arguing over Minutia about a hembloopole.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
I'm pretty sure Stoners aren't wasting their money on over
christ low potency THHC beverages.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, I will tell you that you're wrong. Those businesses,
and I mentioned there's like at least three of them
within a mile of my house, they do very well
and people are purchasing these products. As a matter of fact,
let's go to this talkback just real quick, and then
I'll let check.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
A couple months back, my local restaurant and my local
liquor store both told me that somebody from the government
they came here to help, had stopped in and told
them that Delta nine products were legal to sell. They
didn't take them, but they told them that they could
not sell them anymore. So my favorite drinks are longer available.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
First off, I don't think that should be happening. No, no,
maybe they should reach out to you guys.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
If if if if a retailer had that happen, they yeah,
they should contact us or reach out to UH office
a cannabis management because they've got some employee that doesn't
understand the laws. But you know, to the previous talkbacker
about the stoners aren't buying these products, I think her
point was that the the it's not people that are
buying these products to get stone. You know, people are

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buying them from sleep aid or you know, other there's
other reasons. This is at the end of the day,
whether we're talking about hemp or cannabis, this is plant medicine.
Like a lot of other things. And there are people,
there's veterans that use full strength cannabis and sometimes these
these Delta nine products to deal with PTSD. There's there's

(10:51):
people that use you know, full spectrum for dealing with
the side effects of chemotherapy if they're if they're having
if they're dealing with cancer. There's reason ends why people
use these products, whether it be hemp or cannabis. The
Feds should just get out of the way from it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Let the state.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
This is something you know, as Republicans, we believe in
federalism and putting and giving this issues back to the states.
They love giving issues back to the states, and they
should do that. And for our Attorney general to be
signing on to a letter, you know, supporting this ban,
our attorney general should be grabbing the other attorney's general
in the states where it's where cannabis is legal and

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filing a lawsuit to have to say, under the fourteenth Amendment,
the federal government is blocking, is infringing the states' rights,
and let the Supreme Court, who loves to kick things
back to the states, let them decide this.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Laura Schredonnaire, Jeff O'Brien, thank you so much for hanging
out this morning.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I appreciate it. We're going to switch gears here in
just a moment.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
We'll talk about the city council member that was carjacked
just a few days ago. Liz Colin from auth the
News will join us in the show at day and
we'll let Chuck have the final word on this topic.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
My opinion is, if it was supposed to be a
clean bill, then they should strip out all of that
craft Republicans, Democrats. It should be a clean bill, So
boot it out. Vote for the bill.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Minneapolis City council member Jamal Osman carjacks. Working off of
a version here from Alpha News. We'll talk with Liz
Collin from Alphainus coming up in about ten minutes from
now here on Twin Cities News Talk as we continue
our show from the six five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studios. Jamal Osman, a member of the

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Minneapolis City Council representing Ward six, says he was carjacked
on Monday night by two youths two youth releasing a
statement on social media saying he was partner of Portland
Avenue in Lake Street. Making a phone call to his
sister when the incident happened, it should be in terms
of probability, like the probability in the odds of a

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city council member getting carjacked should be incredibly low, as
it should be for anybody traveling into Minneapolis. But when
you have as many carjackings as Minneapolis has, apparently, it
ends up becoming inevitable. Thankfully, I am safe and unharmed.

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Minneapolis police responded quickly to the incident.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
What no violence interrupters.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh, I suppose that the violence interrupters had done their job,
they would have interrupted this before his car was jacked.
It us thank the police chief and the mayor for
reaching out and checking on things. According to Osmond's statement,
police believe the suspects described as two youth cars, another

(14:01):
victim and their child earlier in the evening. I'll give
you details on that in just a moment. I'm not
laughing at the misfortune. It's just ridiculous. Osmond was re
elected last week by fifty eight percent of the vote.
He faced scrutiny this year when it was revealed a
nonprofit he founded was used by fraudsters in the Minnesota

(14:22):
Feeding our Future scandal. The Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara
said during a briefing yesterday afternoon that the two juveniles
in connection to the crime spree and two adults were
arrested in connection to a separate carjacking. Quick side note
on all of this, by the way, and that is

(14:43):
I was looking at the it's a lot of numbers.
I didn't pull them for you, but I'll give you
the I'll give you the summary. I was looking at
the data of the number of a registered voters in
Minneapolis versus the number of registered voters that actually went
and voted in the election in Minneapolis, and once again,

(15:04):
it's really sad. I mean, less than half of registered
voters go out to go and vote, and that gets
diluted even further when you're talking about rank choice voting.
I'll just reiterate the commentary post election last week, and
that is, if one you had the will and desire
and the funding to go and put in strong conservative, libertarian,

(15:31):
just moderate candidates in Minneapolis, and you worked diligently to
increase the voter turnout, you could absolutely win an election
in Minneapolis. And that same thing rings true when it
comes to all the elections you just need to increase
the voter turnout, which is what Republicans need to be
focused on moving forward. So back to this story though,
here's how the whole thing broke down. According to the

(15:53):
police chief, between two pm and eight pm, police officers
in the first, fourth, and fifth precincts responded to a
series series of incidents that police believe are connected, involving
three stolen vehicles. So around two pm broad daylight. Around
two PM, a Subaru Outback was stolen after a victim

(16:15):
inadvertently left her keyfob in the car.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
You shouldn't want You shouldn't do that too. I still
shouldn't have the car stolen.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Over the next several hours, the suspects used the Subaru
to commit multiple robberies and attempted carjackings across the city
like its Sport, including one on Elmwood Avenue North near
Hennepin Avenue, where a victim was assaulted as the suspects
tried to take his vehicle. Around five fifteen PM, officers

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were dispatched to a disturbance at the six hundred block
of Elwood and found a woman who said that she
was putting her daughter in the car when a suspect
got into the driver's seat and attempted to drive away.
The woman jumped on her daughter in the back seat,
and as she did so, the suspect, who was driving
the car, began punching her in the face and head.

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The suspect jumped out of the vehicle. It struck multiple
lane markers before the victim was able to bring the
vehicle to a halt. The suspects carjacked a gray Subaru
Legacy near the sixteen hundred block of Hennepin Avenue around
six thirty one pm, where they threatened the victim smashed
his cell phone before stealing it and fleeing it. At

(17:31):
seven point fifty seven pm, police believed the same suspect
suspects committed another carjacking of council member Osman near Lake
Street and Portland Avenue. They threatened Osmon with Mason stole
his white Volkswagen Atlas. Within minutes of the incident, The
fifth Precinct officers spotted the stolen Subaru and Osmond's Volkswagen

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near Lake and Pillsbury Avenue. Police attempted to stop the vehicles.
Both of them fled, striking several uninvolved cars. In Police
arrested the two suspects after a short footchase. A replica
firearm was recovered. The suspects ages, by the way, fifteen
and sixteen years old. Oh In an unrelated case, police

(18:16):
arrested two adults overnight following an armed carjacking with a
vehicle in pursuit. We'll talk with this call in here
in just a moment and we'll get her thoughts on
this story.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let me just add one thing to this whole story.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Would we have heard at all about the other story
here relating to the woman who jumped on her daughter
in the backseat of the car as it was being
carjacked by either a fifteen or sixteen year old and
ended up getting punched in the face.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
And the head.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Or did we only hear about that portion of the story,
and do we only hear about her story because a
city council member got carjacked relating to that story.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Twin City's News Talk.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Hey, I'm eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.
Glad you're with the show this morning. Before we talk
with Liz Collin from ALFA News, let's get to your
talkback of the day, brought to you by minileafanmnileaf dot com.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
They used to hang horse thieves. Nowadays we get around
in cars, not horses. There needs to be a stronger deterrent,
stronger penalty, like take away their iPhones permanently. But then
now that wouldn't work because I would be considered cool
and unusual.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Punishment, referencing the Jamal Osmond City councilman getting carjacked, which
we were just talking about. Thank you, rister, you are
our talkback of the day. It's brought to you by
mini Leaf and minileaf dot com joining us once again
calling from Alpha News back to back return appearance.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Good morning, Liz, how are you?

Speaker 10 (20:06):
Good morning John?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Done well, how are you? I'm okay. I will say
that I was a little disappointed.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I went online this morning when I was doing my
prep because I used X for my prep, and I
saw these photographs from the Alpha News ten year anniversary party,
and I was like, oh, guys, I don't I didn't.
I didn't know that was going on, but apparently I
got sent an invite.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I don't remember getting one.

Speaker 10 (20:28):
Yeah, well, you were top top of the list for
the party, but we also knew it was Tuesday evening
which is why we figured you wouldn't come at all
because you turned into a pumpkin at six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, it's true. I saw the photos.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I was disappointed, and then I went, it's not like
I would have gone anyhow, and they probably were aware
of that.

Speaker 10 (20:48):
So yeah, so that's why I was going to bring
that up on the air, but no. Alphanus turned ten
and we had a little celebration last night. Had a
really cool spot, kind of a castle, and we had
some supporters that were there from the very beginning. So
just pretty amazing to see how far we've come in

(21:10):
ten years. I've only been around for about about four,
but it was really fun to get some folks together
and kind of look back and also talk about what's
to come. Some exciting things for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Well, I didn't know it was. I didn't know it
was it was at a castle. If I had, maybe
I would have changed my tune.

Speaker 10 (21:27):
See that changes everything.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I'll have to look. I'll have
to I'll have to look.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's not like I go through my email and just
clear out emails and mass at all.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't ever do that.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So since I certainly didn't deleted by mistake, which probably
did happen. So let's get back to Let's get to
what we typically talk about, and that is stories available
at Alpha News. I just gave the details from your
story at Alpha News the Minneapolis City council member Jamal
Osmond karjacked to two juveniles fifteen and sixteen, arrested in

(21:58):
the crime.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I raised the question a moment ago, Liz.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know, listen, the story of the Sydney council person
getting carjacked is certainly big enough on its own. However,
the subsequent details leading up to Jamal Osmond getting carjacked
are almost more significant. And I wonder if we would
have even found out about this situation with the mother
and her daughter, the car being carjacked, her trying to

(22:23):
keep this from happening, getting punched by the individual who
was stealing the car. I mean, would we have even
heard about this, this story if it had been for Jamal.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Yeah, the timeline is absolutely wild, and I think you're right.
The only reason we know is because this council member
went on social media to basically say he was okay,
thank the thank the police, and then I think it
led to the police having to talk about everything else.
But yeah, between two and eight, these police are responding
three stolen vehicles.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then there's this.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
Specific stolen vehicles, the super outpat outback that that's stolen
from First Avenue South. The victim left the key fob
in the car. I have a lot of questions about
a lot of this. How anybody's not taking precautions in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It seems wild.

Speaker 10 (23:16):
But yeah, then there's this attempted carjackings across the city
that they talk about. I mean, doesn't sound like the
wild wild West as you even read it. And then
they're called a few hours later to a disturbance on
the other side of town putting her There's a woman
putting her daughter in a car when the suspect got

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away in the driver's seat, attempting to drive away. The
woman then jumps on her daughter in the back seat,
so this suspect driving the car began punching her in
the face and in the head. Then the suspect jumps
out of the vehicle, struck multiple lane markers before the
victim was able to bring the vehicle to a stop.
And then it's a six thirty. I mean, I honestly

(24:01):
can't even laugh. It's absolutely no, it's insane real life. Yeah,
and I think it's been eight o'clock, eight o'clock right
when Jamal Osmond is then finally the victim in all
of this. And the amazing too, the original suspect description is.
I think it just comes out like they're looking for
two juveniles. That's all we know about them. Yeah, two,

(24:22):
and now we know more obviously, but.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Two youth fifteenth, fifteen and sixteen years old.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And then you have in here too. I know you
guys did an update.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
On Monday at six seven am, a man was carjacked
at gunpoint at a gas station near Penn Avenue North.
Those suspects, described as two men in a white Ford pickup,
stole the victims Kiya Forte at two forty am on
Tuesday morning, Fourth Precinct officers located the stolen Kia initiated
a pursuit.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
They fled.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
They crashed the vehicle near sixteenth in Queen Avenue. The
passenger was arrested at the scene. The driver was arrested
a few minutes later after perim to search. Both suspects
have criminal histories and had active warrants at the time
of their arrest. I mean this is just over and
over again, these stories repeat Liz, and these two.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
Kids are responsible to just for terrorizing the city for hours,
hours on end, and they and exactly they have warrants,
meaning they've been arrested probably many times before and perhaps
they're out by tomorrow at this rate. With what has
gone on, well, it's really really sad.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
And that's what I wanted to ask, was I would
I would hope that there would be some tracking. I know,
I would very much be interested in knowing sort of
or knowing what happens with these two individuals moving moving forward,
and I hope there's follow up to find out, you know,
what repercussions, if any, they end up facing. It'd be

(25:52):
very interesting to see whether or not they actually do
or are held more accountable than typically fifteen the sixteen
year olds are, just because of their carjacking of a
city council member. I'm very curious to see what ends
up happening with these two youths.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I don't think much. And
that's the situation we're in with Hennepin County Attorney Mary
Moriarty at the HELM pretty difficult to hold especially.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Teenagers very long at all.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
There's been some rumblings that there could even be more
with her and certain ages of people that will not
be charged with felonies moving forward, something we've we'll do
some reporting on. But again, I mean, it's like you
can have you can have as many cops in the
world in Minneapolis, but if they're not allowed to actually

(26:43):
do their jobs and enforce the law, that much is
going to change with these people in charge.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I want to get to a couple of comments that
have come in to the iHeart or radio app talkback,
So I'm talking with Liz Colin from Alpha News.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
John This story drives me absolutely bonkers. This happens to
a couple hundred people in Minneapolis every single year, and
they don't get their ten minutes of fame. But because
he's a consul member, he gets his ten minutes of
fame on every news outlet in Minnesota. It's just ridiculous.

(27:18):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
It reminds me of the First Fast the Furious plot,
where all the truckers kept getting hijacked and they were patient,
they would be waiting for police to do something about it,
but they never did so. Then they started arming themselves
with firearms. I wonder when that's gonna start happening in
Minneapolis after they realize, well, they're not going to do

(27:45):
anything about it.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, but I guess, you know, Liz, if that was
going to happen, it would have happened already. And I mean,
we've seen story after story of individuals when they're interviewed
by local media regarding the cars that are being vandalized.
We just had a whole what another one hundred at
Lowry Hill, and you hear comments from the residents going, well,
I didn't put it in the garage.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I guess that's my bad.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'll just factor in the price of fixing the car
into my yearly expenses. You know, I think at this point,
if somebody was going to actually go and take matters
into their own hands, people would have started doing it already.
And it just seems to have become a common way
of life if you're living in Minneapolis right now, Liz.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Well, and look at what happened to the man that
was two weeks ago, man in his forties who had
somebody rifling through his car at seven in the morning
at his workplace and confronted him and he was shot
and killed, and then you had the police chief come
out and talk about just how tragic this was kind
of over nothing. But I also thought that messaging maybe

(28:43):
it maybe isn't the best. This is this is something
to a lot of people. Nobody wants their property property stolen,
and this just continuing feeling of violation. But yeah, you're right,
some people think that, you know, this isn't this isn't
that big a deal, or you know, they they you know,
look at the look at the root causes, and they
feel bad for these these kids. But I really it's

(29:07):
it's hard to wrap your head around at this point.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Let's call here to this story available about off the news.
Minnesota Department of Corrections Commissioner Paul Schnell's ex wife was
sentenced to just three years in prison for attempted murder
of their disabled son.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I mean, when you get into the fact that essentially she.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Was crushing up prescription medication and putting them in water
in order to in order to what murder this particular individual.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
This story is just wild, Liz, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
This is this is awful. So the sentencing was on
Friday last week, but this incident took place back in
December of twenty twenty three, so this is now the
ex wife. They were married at the time. Julie Meyer Schnell.
Paul Schnell is in charge of the Department of Corrections,
the Commissioner of corre Actions of Minnesota, so a Wall's appointee.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But the complaint details.

Speaker 10 (30:07):
Just this.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Absolutely awful.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
But she talked about how she did it. She attempted
to kill her own son. He's disabled, living in a
group home in Badness Heights. He requires a feeding tube,
so she crushes up medication, her anxiety pills, mixing them
into his feeding bag, hoping he would go to sleep forever, is.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
What she said.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
She actually told this to her son, who then has
this obviously horrendous reaction. He's hospitalized low bread pressure, respiratory failure.
He goes into the staff at the time did not
conduct a toxicology screen. But then they're looking through her
communications and sounds like she, you know, confessed to him

(30:54):
and others and talks talks about it. It's absolutely horrid,
and she's facing at the time an eighteen year sentence
ends up with a three year sentence last Friday. I mean,
you'll only see serve two years for this because of
the two thirds rule in Minnesota, and the Scott County

(31:14):
Attorney made it very clear how he felt about the sentencing,
calling it completely inappropriate and an example of why people
feel the justice system is flawed. But yeah, the details
of this are absolutely horrid and luckily their sun survived.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I was when I was going through doing my notes,
I it was done to find out that she only
got three years in all of this.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I just I can't. I mean, what else do you say?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I mean, on top of what we were, you know,
discussing with the lack of accountability in Minneapolis when it
comes to actions like this, what kind of message does
that send? Oh, hey, you can attempt to, you know,
to go on murder and a disabled kid, but you're
only going to have to spend a couple of years
in prison for it.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I just I don't get it. List.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Yeah, and also we've had the messaging from Commissioner Snell
talk about well, you know, I basically I divorced her
after this, and I'm going to have nothing to do
with you know.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I would hope. So it's so it's so dark. It's
just so dark.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
All right, Let's go to let's do let's do one
more here, speaking of children.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
A children's book.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
This children's book called We Miss You George Floyd is
available at libraries throughout the Twin Cities for as it's described,
for children working through George Floyd's murder and the police
violence plaguing our country.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is this a children's book or a or a horror story?
I guess it depends on what version you get. Although
from what I can detail or what is detailed in
the Alphanus story, Liz Colin not a whole lot of
full context relating to George Floyd's background in the in
this children's book.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
Yeah, they left that out of the children's book version,
no doubt. Actually this is this is why a one
of our reporters just happened to discover this book at
a library recently, And that's why you put a story together.
We almost couldn't believe what they were pushing on our
younger generation. But yeah, I encourage people to check out
that story, even just the the way things are are

(33:29):
are afraised. I think there's also a word find in
the book defund the police. I think it's one of
the things you can can look for. What's interesting. The
Hennipen County Library System. I think there are twenty five copies.
I think there's only about three copies of my book.
They're lying the media of the Left and the death
of George Floyd and the henif the County Library system.
So and my book is in the conspiracy theory section

(33:53):
also still but meanwhile this is this is in the
children's area for people thought better. But anyway, it's really crazy,
and I actually does it seems to be encouraging because
all the comments are people seem to be just as
appalled as we were that this is being offered to children.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I didn't realize they had a section on conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I love that. That doesn't surprise me. You're gonna love
You're gonna love that section. You're gonna love the section
in the in the least bit. So all right, let's
call it anything else you want to mention before we
before we say goodbye this morning.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
You know, interesting story coming up about Ramsey County property
taxes and where money is going and how many NGOs
are being supported by tax dollars in Ramsey County. So
that's coming up in the next couple of days. At
Alphanus it's some new content there at alphanews dot org

(34:50):
as well.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I see you actually have an update.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
We've been following the story of a representative, Pam Altendorf
and the snap surge right around the COVID years. Of course,
the Minnesota explanation about how it was just basically an
accounting error where they included in other benefits they shouldn't
been there. But this has raised a whole host of
other questions. And I know you have a brand new story.

(35:13):
It's available at the website that we'll certainly be talking
about on tomorrow's show, So everybody can head on over
to alphaan Whust dot org for that.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
So glad your tenth anniversary party went well.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Sorry I missed it at the at the Council at
the Castle, but maybe next year.

Speaker 10 (35:29):
Yes, the eleventh will be big. We'll have it at
three in the afternoons.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
You can make it fantastic. I'm already there. Let's call on.
Thank you for the time this morning, as always, I
appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (35:41):
Thank you very much, John, I'm great day.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
This George Floyd book, By the Way, published by the
University of Minnesota Press, describes Floyd's death as the longest,
cruelest eight minutes and forty six seconds.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
The police came. They pinned him down.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
They didn't listen even when he said, I can't breathe
one page, says the University of Minnesota Press, as the
book follows a young girl as she tries to reckon
with the senseless, senseless violence of Floyd's killing. For children
working through George Floyd's murder and the police violence plaguing
our country, and for the grownups just trying to help him,

(36:17):
this book is an invitation to open up a difficult conversation,
says the book's description. There are no difficul difficult conversations
happening in this book. They only painted one side of
the story. By the way, can you provide a similar
children's book or a similar book geared towards children with
this level of extreme subject matter. Yeah, we'll spend a

(36:42):
little bit more time on this, on this story on
tomorrow's show. There's some further details in here, just from
a ridiculous standpoint, that need to be shared, And this
morning we're completely.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Out of time.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Thank you so much for joining the show today. Of course,
if you missed any portion of the broadcast, check out
the podcast that's available, and we'll be available up on
the iHeartRadio app. Thank you to Devin. We'll see him
again tomorrow in the Master Control booth, and thank you
for spending time with us this morning. If you want,
you can email me Justice at iHeartRadio dot com or

(37:13):
leave a talk back overnight. I check those every morning
when I arrive. Have yourself a great Wednesday. I'll talk
to you guys tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Bye,