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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, look, Tim Walls is on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We were talking about him earlier in the show, spreading
another lae. He's talking with a group of educators in Texas,
apparently telling them how Texas can improve their education on
Thursday this week.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't know how that happens, but he.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said that we had universal pre k here in Minnesota
and we don't. Actually got called out by the Minnesota Reformer,
which is far from a right wing publication, actually goes
the other way. Our three here on Twinsday's news Talk
Am eleven thirty one oh three five FM. We're going
to return to the story in just a moment, one
woman's lawn fight against an HOA. There's a talkback very
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upset with the show. The lawsuit blooms in Plymouth as
a homeowner battles HOA over her naturally planted yard. So
we'll get to more of this fight, including why she
had to file up police report and install ring cameras.
We'll get to that in a second. In studio though,
welcome back our guests. We have Catherine Johnson and Grace
Keating from the American Experiment podcast out every Tuesday. Thank
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you both for coming in this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Thanks for having us John, another great show this week,
by the way, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Everyone, go listen.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Check us out on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I've had many people that have been sharing my and
sharing me back at me because you guys had the
clips up from the show, and I was very pleased
to see that you isolated some of my clips and
made them a lot more succinct with clever editing, because
I tend to extrapolate and it takes a long time
to get to my point.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
I love how they do that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You'll hear me just stop mid sentence and it's like, wow,
it was so much better that way, if I had.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That sort of control that the Clipper had. John.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Was that a backhanded shot at me, by the way, No.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, no, not at all. It was as a crack at me. Actually.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
When you host a radio show, though, as Brian McDaniel
from the Wrong About Everything podcast can a test, you know,
you have to learn the art of filling time sometimes,
and so you know you have to tend to be
word you have to tend to be wordy.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I'm loquacious. That's a good, good word.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Probably the first time, well first time it's ever been
uttered on this show.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Oh I know all the words.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Brian McDaniel joins us in a studio again, hosted the
Wrong About Everything podcast, attorney, political pundit and stand up comedian,
of which you can go and see you perform at
the Strike Theater.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You have a benefit going on for this, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
So the Strike Theater it's you know, part of the
give Give to the Max event. It's the night of
what's it called the Night of twenty five thousand laughs,
on November twentieth. It's something that's going to go all day.
I have the coveted two in the afternoon slot. Yeah,
so you can tell that they're pretty excited to have
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me there.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It should be a Rockets corct. It should be a
Rockets crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
So two in the afternoon, you're an angry loaner or unemployed,
you know, just us swing by two pm. Strike Theater.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
We were, uh so it was earlier this week. Hummeline
is gonna kill me. I'm gonna tell the story.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Anyways, So we were we were watching trailers on YouTube
and you know how they show movies, you know, movies
with ads on YouTube, They just pop up. I don't
have the subscription, just the regular you know YouTube account,
and Eddie Murphy's Raw came up. Okay, you brought neither
of you have probably seen Eddie Murphy's Row, right, Sam,
Eddie Murphy's Row abs. Okay, So I remember this as
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a kid. I have not seen Eddie Murphy's Raw in decades,
and I remember as a kid in eighty seven, I
shouldn't have, but I did went to the theater to
go see Eddie Murphy's Raw.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So we put it on and started watching it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh my gosh, talk about getting in a time capsule,
and I'm going there is if anybody, I don't care
who you are, had got up on stage and done
that routine, now, the outrage that would ensue would be
absolutely incredible. Like I remember it, But at the time,
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it was just edgy comedy. Now, I mean, you want
to talk about just offensive by today's standards, and I
were just I think we were as wide eyed and
our jaws dropped open as we were chuckling at the
jokes as well.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, so so Raw
was was kind of his second big event. The first
one was delirious, right, and you know, I've aways been
more of a delirious guy than the raw guy, but
in both of them, you you can't say those things,
and uh, you know it didn't even occur to us
that that was wrong. Then it's just edgy. But he's
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using curse words through a modern lens. You only can't
say those things. But uh, hey, it's funny. It's funny,
and there's there are things in there that have nothing
to do with that, with the offensive stuff, that are
well worth your toe. Yeah, but you will be horrified
by some of it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It is it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It is a it is a curiosity in twenty twenty
five to go back and watch it now.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, it's you're you're both absolutely right. I think my
favorite bid from I can't remember if it's raw or
delirious when he talks about making the cheeseburgers at home
because get made on.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The houseburger, big old bloody hobsburger.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
That's that's one of my favorite comedy bits ever.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Chray and Catherine just completely You guys are familiar with
Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I initially thought this was a movie. Is this a condo?
A stand up special?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Murphy is well, yeah, okay, yeah, so he started track. Yeah,
he started off well.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Technically true.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I'm sorry, Donkey, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Can we can we turn off two of the micsre
gonna be so.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Mad at that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Neither of you ever go watch raw Do now.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
No, No, you're really not.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You're really You're really really not, Because there were moments
where I was laughing out loud and I saw Melinda's
side Ivy She's like, really you think that's funny? Hum Like, yeah,
I'm this nostalgic humor.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think it was delirious, not rob but my favorite
bit is, uh aunt bunny falling down the stairs. Oh yeah,
it was quite often. I'll just go my shoe.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
All right, let's get back to this h o A story.
So this woman moved from Portland to Churchill Arms here
in Minnesota, purchased her home in twenty twenty two, and
she wanted to essentially grow native vegetation in her front
to and backyard, which would mean very very tall native grass.
Wanted to attract lightning, bugs, frogs, and wood ducks. This
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is a nice neighborhood, you know, some one hundred and
three houses, you know, tightly trimmed yards, three car garages,
your typical you know, Minnesota suburb division and of course
her yard was inviting controversy because the neighbors didn't want
to go and look at it, and the HOA said
that she.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Was in violation.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
In July of twenty twenty three, a complaint about the
yard was sent to the city of Plymouth, and at
the end of that month, someone drove across the front yard,
leaving tire tracks, So obviously things were escalating for her.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
She had to file the police report. She installed ring cameras.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The following April, the HOA invited her to come to
a meeting to talk about her project.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
She didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
She did send information on the state's Natural Landscapes law
and why it was beneficial to plant native plants.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So she was going all in on this whole thing.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
But you're in an ho way, Like you bought a.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
House in not every house comes with an ho way.
You could have bought it somewhere else, because a frankly
part of me, the conservative libertarian to me, is like,
this is my property.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I bought this house. I want to have an unmowed lawn.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
I'm gonna but that you're in an ho way that
doesn't apply here.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, you've got rules you had to follow, although this
talkback here from Joe is very upset with all of us.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
Here we are on a Freedom Friday and the John
Justice Show, and all of his guests are rallying against
somebody who wants the freedom to grow whatever kind of
grass they want in their yard, their freedom to landscape
their yard. All they want, their freedom to have land rights,
property rights, their freedom you need to live the way
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they want to live.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Justine shows against that. Brian McDaniel, I can tell, is
eager to go and respond.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Excuse me, sir, but I would like the record to
clearly reflect that I am against hoas in all forms,
and I would like a public retraction of your scandalous barb.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, listen, we're having a conversation about it, and I'm
with Grace on this. You know, you purchased this home
knowing that you had an HOA. You have to understand
that because you did that, you made that choice. You're
going to have to abide by their rules. Now with
this woman and what she is attempting to do with
her lawn is not against the HOA rules. Right, you
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have a different situation and this is what she's been
dealing with. I want to mention just briefly, because this
whole story reminded me of this. On Apple Plus, for
those that have the service, there is a fascinating story
that not is unlike this one. It's a documentary about
a guy who moved into a neighborhood that I had
at HOA and he wanted to have these yearly fundraising
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drives at Christmas where they would he would invite thousands
upon thousands of people from neighboring cities to come and
look at the light display that he had in his house.
And something very similar happened here.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He came in. He was a lawyer, no offense, Brian.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He went through and looked at all of the rules
and says, well, I don't see any rules in violation
that I would be in violation of and decided to
move forward with doing this without even bothering with the
HOA and then turned into this massive fight that ended
up going all the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's how big this fight ended up getting.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So again to the talkbacker's point, no, we're just breaking
it to all down. But if you want to think
that we're against freedom, then go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well I do think that you should be able to
buy a house in an Hoa area or a not
Hoa area. And I think, as Brian said, the Hoas
have totally taken over and now when I was just
looking for house recently, the vast majority of them have Hoas.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
I am a person who wants to live in an.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Hoa that's got a dictator sort of running, you know,
Like I think people are doing way too much crazy stuff,
like I want a dictator Hoa person, but most people
probably don't want that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think of the five of us right now on
the show, if any of us were dropped in North Korea,
I think you do the best thing I.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Was gonna say, does Chris Lindall have a fascism box
that you could you could check on?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
All Right with that, let's take a quick break. We'll
get back to more of your talkbacks coming up here.
Your talk back of the day brought to you by
Mini Leaf on the Way as well here on Twin
City's News Talking. I'm eleven thirty one three five FM.
Speaker 10 (10:34):
Hey guys, I live out in the middle of nowhere.
My yard is full of thousands of wildflowers, wild plants, landscaping.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (10:44):
We have birds everywhere, wildlife and it is a lot
of work to keep it from looking like I am
a shut in horder. I'm gonna guess that this woman,
like many people I have met, is actually just super
duper lazy, and this is the excuse for why she
doesn't want to do any yard work.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh man, it's been a while since I've made the show.
Outside of the show comparison Twin City's News Talk from
the sixty five to one Carpet Next Day Install Studios.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
John Justice Sam is in the master control.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Booth, and we've got Brian McDaniel, Catherine and Grace in
there from American Experiment. Brian's just here from himself Wrong
about Everything podcast host and a longtime friend of the
of the show. But yeah, we went all over the place.
During the commercial break, we were talking ghosts, yeah, water.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Aliens, indigenous ocean aliens.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Indigenous ocean aliens, to which everybody seems, well, Brian.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You didn't you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh well, and I think that that's what the hoa
lady was trying to lure into her in her native grass.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Brian McDaniel knows what's going on.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
We see, I see, thanks, look to pick the scales
off your eyes people.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I want my age.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I hate defending me from the ocean aliens.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
That's why sure, this too is why I like Brian McDaniel,
because he knows the art of a good segue. I
could also predict when I was about to completely go
off the rails.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He's just going to say thank you for the podcast title,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So let's I want to get back to some more comments.
Here a few of the comments, and then get onto
a few other items. In the remaining time we have
with the show. We've been working through this lengthy story
from the Minnesota Star Tribune. I do want to add
that as this woman battles her hoa at Churchill Farms
in Plymouth over her naturally planted yard, uh, there is
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no resolution at this point in time. She is still
battling and now it's coming down to a state law.
So there was an instance where at some point in
July of last year, somebody had gone through and completely
mode her flatten her yard. So she actually went and
investigated track down the individual who did it, and it
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was a neighbor who had already gone and mowed three
other yards that day. He was doing it as a favor,
he says. It says he was doing it as a favor,
but ohing. So she ended up suing him. After a
Court of conciliation hearing, she ended up being awarded four thousand,
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seven hundred and twenty four dollars from that man for
the damage that he did to her neighbor petation yard. Yep, no,
So wrapping up the story. One of the reasons Scott
moved forward with her landscaping HOA and this goes back
to the HOA discussion we were having earlier. At the
time she bought the house, that HOA didn't have rules
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barring plantings.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
That changes everything.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The city of Plymouth limited how much of a yard
could be converted from turf grass, but the ordinance was
changed after the state outlawed those restrictions.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Three, a little less than a month after the mowing incident,
the HOA called the special meeting to discuss the landscaping rules.
Scott claims she never got notice of the gathering, and
her suit argues that the resulting rule was improperly passed,
so they tried to sort of after the fact to
go and pass another rule. Essentially, the HOA adopted Plymouth's
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old rule that limited native plants to fifty percent of
the yard and required an eight foot buffers of turf
grass or mulch along the property edges. The HOA director
said that he described the rule as really friendly.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
To native plants.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So at a meeting where the rule was passed, fifty
one people voted in favor, one against, and one abstained,
according to the HOA. Filence asked whether Scott came up
during the discussion at the meeting, and one of the
individuals said, yes, it was very personal because she made
it personal. She's not the victim here. This is the
rule Scott now wants to invalidate in her lawsuit. So
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I guess that's an interesting question. I mean, if they
if the HOA then goes and changes the rules, I'm
assuming there must be something in the HOA guidelines that
states that they reserve the right to change the rules
of the HOA.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
They probably can't do it. I would assume they can't
do it. You in the Latterally, there need to be
noticed requirements and whatnot, which you know they may or
may not have have followed. I think that she needs
to hire a lobbyist and go up and change the
rules up at the capital.
Speaker 11 (15:36):
No.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
No, this is why I like the hoa's local control.
This doesn't need to come from the state. You decide
in your little neighborhood what your rules are and then
let the state leave us alone.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
This is what I'm lobbying for.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And I want to live in a neighborhood where everyone's
sane and has all of their lawns mode.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
She just believes in municipal fascism. So that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
There there's another title. Or drop your inside there.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Sam a good fantasy football team.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Now we're banned.
Speaker 12 (16:11):
A woman who located from Seattle to Plymouth evokes the
same concerns I have about certain liberal voters. They often
support policies that negatively impact their own communities, only to
seek refuge in better managed areas while inadvertently bringing those
problematic ideas with them. I'd love to know why she relocated.
Could it be because Seattle has been run into the
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ground and she's looking for a better community.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
By the way, can I just give a quick, nicely
done to the talkback, because she obviously sat down and
crafted this exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, and I'm glad that she did so one more
added point to this whole thing. So they say that
this rule that Scott now wants to invalidate with her
lawsuit right. But a sponsor of the state law supporting
native landscapes said that lawmakers purposefully left the hoas out
of the state law. Representative Rick Hanson dfl Out of
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South Saint Paul said the bill was drafted after some
cities moved to bar pollinator gardens, which we were talking
about earlier. It took a few tries in prior sessions
to pass it before it finally stuck. Howays were left
out because I needed to pass the bill. I wanted
to have brought support of course, of course that's why
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it was it was left out.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
If you if you would have said, Brian, who do
you think passed us? I would have said Rick Hanson.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He acknowledged the statue could be stronger, but he said
he was hesitant to reopen the discussion on it in
the future because there are people who want to repeal
it too.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Can't have that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
So As for Scott, she says that she's prepared to
wage a lengthy and expensive legal fight to clarify the
state law with the judges ruling so that others don't
have to battle the homeowner groups. The she just I'm
one of she's just independently wealthy, and she just has
a lot of a lot of money that she can
go and throw at this particular issue because it seems
like this is a lot to just have this native
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vegetation in your in your in your yard.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Part of me wants like, I'm so glad she's battling
it out because they have.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
To decide this.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's like HO wa versus state law and can the
HUA change.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
It's like, I want to know, I want to be
a homeowner. It's a point like settle this.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But here's the thing on that though it's like I
agree with you, I agree with you in spirit of that,
but I still default to, oh, this is so completely
unnecessary property, writes John.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So completely get tired up.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Just I like, I mean, okay, I get my liberty
pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
You're right, and my happiness lives in an hoa run
by a fascist. I do not want to.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Deal with this at all. But if you do, fun, I.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Don't care what the wacky people of Minneapolis want to
do in their yards.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Franklin don't care. I want to live in a place
with nice laws.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
All right, generally smoke.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
She knows.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
She said that the conflict reached this point because of
her complete failure to engage with the HOA.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I respect that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I absolutely respect the acknowledgment that she actually admitted that fact.
But at this point, she says, she's not neighborhood sympathy.
I'm not interested in knowing my neighbors anymore after the
way this has gone on. Yeah, I don't think the
National night Outs are going to be very friendly with her,
and her and her neighbors. She's going to be invited
over for any holiday parties any type.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So she moved to a city named after the rock
of which our country was built.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Sorry, I was just gonna say, I'm kind of stuck
on the conciliation court thing too, where the guy mowed
the lawn as an act of service, and now it
was her four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
My guess was on that, and it's not in the story,
But my guess is that he might go and mow
other people's lawns. But I'm going to venture I guess
that they probably all figured out that he intentionally went
over to wipe out her lawn under the guise of well,
I was just trying to help.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
We don't touch my lawn.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Sure, but how is that four thousand dollars worth of damage?
What is this the most elite crass in the world.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Didn't she hire someone to like she brought in a
group to do this lawn though, right.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
She had picked the vegetation to bring in all those
different woodland animals and creatures as she was referring to.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
There was probably emotional distress involved, cost, punitive damages.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And somebody just buy her a zoo pass and call
it a day. For crying out loud. Como zoo, not
the other one.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah, valley people here come to spend money in our town.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
I'm just got camping, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I forgot I have very Minnesota Minnesota State Zoo friendly
people in here.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I was poured out of my mind.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
We went They have a turtle. Now I loved her?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Oh really?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You know they have red pandas not as you can
see him if you go down to the look at him.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
For crying out loud. Don't get me started so.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Bitter about that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I am.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I am bitter about that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I was very excited to see the red pandas there's
no way to see them time, I went there for
that reason alone, to go back so for the big
fake ones that are outside.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
All right, talk back of the day coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
More of your talkbacks as well from the iHeartRadio brought
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Speaker 1 (21:00):
Why am I getting beate with the hot dog or
radio with your smart speaker? Oh, I love my redneck way.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
Not living in an h O way, Burn our trash,
our cars on the lawn, wake up in the morning
and shoot a big bond.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Thank you for the talkback from the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty one oh three
five FM. Really having a fun time this morning on
a Freedom Friday, even though some of us love freedom
more than others.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
No, I love that for that man, and you should
be allowed to do that in America, just not in
my neighborhood. My happiness lives in an h o a
run by a fascist.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That would be Catherine Grace from American Experiment. Brian McDaniel
in studio with US as well.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Everything pod sounds like the experiment's over. We had a
good run.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It is time to get to your talkback of the day.
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Speaker 11 (22:23):
Good morning, John, and guests into one of the members
of Salt and Pepper who talks as if she enjoys
the principles of fascism. You cannot your latterly go into
somebody's yard and mold their lawn without their permission.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That is called trespassing.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
And it is of no surprise to me that a
judge awarded that person that woman money for the damages.
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This is America, not North Korea.
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Speaker 1 (22:56):
Would you care to respond to Catherine.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I just think the libertarian are out of control and
there's a reason they never went elections. But really I
feel little misunderstood. Okay, I like, I want local. We
all agree the households in my area that we're gonna,
you know, look nice.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
I don't want the state. I don't want a government. Federals,
fed stay out of it. Just a local faisal.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It sounds like Minneapolis. You're just, yeah, we just want
to do what we want.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're a fan of order, Yeah, you're a fan of order. None,
none of this, None of this surprises me. Although Grace,
you've been oddly quiet over her fascist rants over here.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I'm just I don't want to be associated with them.
One of the members of Salt and Pepper. She's like,
oh no, we.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Were talking before we switch gears here.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Although we're going to keep with a bit of the
theme the story I've been sitting on for a while.
But we were talking about the northern lights from earlier
this week, and uh I mentioned how Logan and Melinda
had gone up and Logan actually ended up going up
to Duluth to see him on on a Wednesday night.
This has not been widely reported though, so the reason
why we had the northern life in abundance this week
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was one there was a massive solar flare actually I
think a couple of them off the Sun, and then
we have an issue with the with the poles here
on the planet. But apparently, and I've seen this reported
in a few places, and nobody is talking about about
it like we were.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
A stone's throw away.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
If it had increased anymore, it would have had massive
repercussions on our energy grid here, like they were saying
it was.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It was approaching like.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Blackout levels of the CMEs coming off the sun here.
And it's a part of this that, oh, the the
northern lights is so brittany. Yeah, and they also could
be really really devastated if it had gotten any worse.
So it hasn't been widely hasn't been widely reported. I
don't know if you guys haven't seen that at all.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Apparence is bliss, man, I don't want to know about
any of that.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
When society crumbles, will be wishing we had more pollinators.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
From that, the bees could have stopped the bees.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Who who who misses the bees?
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Then?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well, speaking of the bees, it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Look on green update. Now, this is a little vindication
for me.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I talked about this a long, long time ago, and
the concerns over certain E vehicles and the speed at
which they travel upon our sidewalks and our roadways.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, we have another woman here. Bad week for women.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Apparently, Janet Stockco was hit by what she says was
a Class three E bike, leaving her without her sense
of smell. It's very odd side effect the apparently E
bikes and COVID who knew who knew? So August of
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last year will stick. This was August twelfth of last year.
We'll stick in Janet's mind forever. Generally, I don't come
over to this area area anymore since the accident. She
was walking on the sidewalk near fifteen Street West and
Pleasant Drive in Hastings when she was hit by a
minor riding an electronic bicycle.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Stocko says that it was.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
A Class three E bike and E bike with no
throttle that can travel up to twenty eight miles per
hour with some assist. Now that may not seem like
it's very fast, but if you're talking about a bicycle.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's your your trucking, your trucking.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Of course it's a minor.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Ugh, the youths Janet, you have a home in my
hoa and we will have no e bikes, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
She says that she doesn't remember the actual incident or
most of her three weeks stay in the hospital courage.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I remember maybe the last few days. She says.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
She's not heard from the minor involved or their family.
So changes have come to Hastings as a result of
that day. In March, the city change the ordinances relating
to e bikes, banning all classes of e bike from
writing on sidewalks. According to the police chief, it's education
for you know, the juveniles in our community that are
riding these and also the parents that might be purchasing
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these unknowingly breaking the law because their child is not
fifteen years of age or older. And when and then
enforcement is it's interactive. They've issued a citation to the
juvenile who was riding the bike involved in the crash.
And I bring it up because I had talked about
this a while back, and I had some listeners that
were pushing back on me because I was talking about
the speed at which these vehicles can go and a
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lot of people were downplaying this. And I was under
the assumption that now these things are going a lot
faster than I think a lot of people realize, and
I imagine that very soon we're going to start seeing
regulations coming down.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It seems like it's one of these.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
New innovations that just hasn't caught up with our resisting laws,
and they've really pushed the boundaries on just how fast
some of these vehicles can can go.
Speaker 13 (27:53):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, they're a menace. I wish, say, I wish I
had one. That's awesome. Well, yeah, but it is a sidewalk,
that's true.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
So but what about their freedom, Brian? What about their
freedom to go really fast?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Know what?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Your freedom stops where my nose begins.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Oh you think that tall pollinator grass doesn't have any smell?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Not from that woman. She lost her sense of smell.
She has no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And that was my band's name in high school, the Pollinators.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But don't boom. I guess he answered that question right
out of right, out of the right, out of the gate.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Apparently they are working on a new laws. State Representative Scott.
I always get his last I mean, excuse me, Tom
depel pelpel I'm okay, I want to say dipple.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's what it looks like.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
We have a dibble, we don't need a dipple.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mean, that's what I'm getting get confused by. So
he represents the area. I guess there is a push
to change the classification around Class three E bikes in
the wake of what it has happened to stop co
I would the story doesn't get into it. I am
oddly curious of the correlation of the accident, the injury,
and how she lost her sense of smell.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I think, like, if you hit your head, weird things
can happen.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, I'd be so mad. Don she not taste now either?
Aren't those connected?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I think they are. Well, you think we would know them.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
What do they say, get kicked by a mule, your
eyes go across, fall on a well they go back and.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, I guess if you could have the wind knocked
out of it, you can have your smell knocked out
of you too, right.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Oh, well, I feel like she should sue. That seems
like a legitimate I mean I think she well, maybe
she didn't. No, she's just pushing for a change to
make sure nobody else loses their sense of smell.
Speaker 14 (29:42):
That poor woman and.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
The family didn't even apologize her. She said, didn't hurt
from the kid who.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You got to make struck her. You got to make
the kid apologize.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
By the way, was that a cousin Eddy reference?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It was?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Okay, I got that.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
It was I get references sometimes on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, I recognize that reference.
Speaker 14 (29:58):
Yeah, Morning Crew on a Freedom Friday. Just wanted to
comment on the e bikes my neighborhood. The kids drove
in packs, and I'm terrified of one of these kids
possibly being hit by a car because they they are
fast and they don't look. I've had kids cut me
off intentionally in e scooters.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Children are a renewable resource.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's fine, all right, And this okay, So now we're
going to Now I'm getting pushed back on.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
How fast the things are or are not. Twenty eight
miles an hour is not fast on a bicycle. This
is chuck from Green Isle. I've been up to forty
seven and a half miles per hour on my ten speed.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
When I used to ride every day, I'd go twenty
five miles just about every day.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Before I work.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
But hey, if twenty eight is fast, I don't know
what slow is.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
By Well, first off, how are you is that an
e bike that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
You're doing almost fifty miles an hour on your ten speed?
Are you getting up to that or do you think
you're getting up to that speed on your own? And
what is the incline that you were traveling down when
that's happening.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Are we doing a chat ept?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Is that possible?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Are you? Are you asking the AI overlords whether or
not one can get to forty seven point five miles
per hour on a.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Ten speed Whether you can don't on.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
A sidewalk where people are scrolling care if you can.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Lance Armstrong's average speed for the entire two thousand and
five Tour de France was an average of twenty five
point nine miles per hour. Yeah, but he has gone
as much. His peak was sixty but I assume that
that was in a controlled downhill up.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So from you know, henceforth, the Chuck of the talkbackers
shall be known as the Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
The Morning Show here on Twin Cities. Such as an.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Undiscovered talent I think in the cycling world.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And a juvenile on a knee bike twenty eight miles
an hour hitting something that is a relatively speaking, a
fast rate of speed, and this is a hill. Just
like that woman is dying with her lawn. I'm gonna
I'm gonna die on regard regarding that, that's a that's
a that's a quick clip.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
To say the least.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
The plymouth woman should get e bikes now too.
Speaker 15 (32:18):
Orange John e bikes are a menace to society. I
have ridden one. The only thing I ever got was
a windburn. No exercise was ever had. I am an
avid cyclist, average middle aged fat guy. At the same time,
ride your bike, ride a real bike, stay off the sidewalk,
all cyclists.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, that's a great day. That's the thing with the
with the e bikes.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
So so I don't begrudge anybody that's got one and
rides them around, but you need to know what it
is you're doing. You're not getting any exercise for the
most part. You're just you're using it for your enjoyment
to get out and about, and I'm totally fine with that.
But for me, I like my pedal bike because I'm
also a middle aged fat guy and I want to
make sure that I can stay as healthy as possible.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But that's just me.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, it's like a smaller golf cart. It's the same thing.
You should be a little embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They still have mopeds. Sound sounds kind of like a moped.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Let's go here as we wrap things up. Yeah, we
have enough time to squeak this in. So you guys
heard about the new controversy around the Blue Line Extension. Okay,
so this which one? Okay, so this comes from channel
Channel five. Let me actually go ahead and play a
bit of the piece from last night. Community voices connection
to light rail contracts prompts calls for transparency. Here's a
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bit again of the coverage from Channel five.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
So the train coming here. We give people the opportunity
to find better jobs.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
You can be able to move around easily.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
The Blue Line Extension promotes a series of videos on
its YouTube page called Community Voices. The people are identified
as titles with titles such as business owner or resident, but.
Speaker 16 (33:48):
Five Investigates found that many of them are also part
of a group or groups that have big contracts with
Hennepin County to do work for the Blue Line. Investigative
reporter Eric Rasmussen asked recently one of the county's project
managers about this.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Listen, why not just disclose that these are paid endorsements?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'm not aware that what's being done on the YouTube
pages is a paid part.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Of what they're doing.
Speaker 16 (34:15):
Kindepin County followed up to say that the testimonials in
the video.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Were entirely voluntary.
Speaker 16 (34:23):
Are not satisfied with that answer, and they're calling for
more transparency.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So that's a story from Channel five. Essentially, a vast
majority of the individuals that are featured promoting the Blue
Line are connected to these lucrative government contracts. Basically, they're
undisclosed paid endorsements for the light rail. And this is
something that's been in your wheelhouse brand.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah it sounds like transportation fascism, but yeah, no, I mean,
I mean this is something where you know, you want
community voices. They're important, but most people don't care about things.
But this is something certainly that she be disclosed because
if it's if it's not improper, it is certainly frowned upon,
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should be frowned upon, or at least it's it's attempting
to to mislead.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
I love the idea.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
They had a video team like putting together these testimonials,
and they couldn't find anyone to just organically say that
they want the train. They're like, we need to we
need three more videos. We gotta go, we gotta go internal.
What if you guys get behind the camera.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
No one wants these.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
You couldn't You couldn't get just actualities from people talking
about the you know, And I think it speaks to
the level of how they just don't care when it
comes to the appropriation of taxpayer dollars, wherein we can
just go ahead and we know that they'll talk positive
about it, so we'll just go ahead and use them.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, they seem to have an unlimited amount of money
to promote these transportation projects that no one really wants.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I mean, what is this money doing.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
That's that's coming from the taxpayers and it's going towards
what a light rail that no one really rides because
everyone on it is smoking crack?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah? How much money have we record into this thing
to these things?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Already?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
All of the money, all of all of the money,
all right.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I want to make sure that I give enough time
for all of our guests this morning, because usually we
run out and the time is ticking down. I want
to thank everybody for coming in, of course, of course.
Catherine Johnson Grace Keating from the American Experiment podcast. Anything
you guys would like to promote before we say goodbye
to a Freedom Friday this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'll just say giving to Giving Tuesday, Give the Max
Day Early giving is open right now. You should go
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should support our work.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Please, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Give to the Max Day is on Thursday. It's on
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do even better. So if you would go and support
it and mean the world. Our podcast comes out on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And speaking of Get to the Match, you have your
event coming up and anything else you'd like to promote there.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Brian, Yeah, So, as I said earlier, I'll be performing
comedy at the Strike Theater next Thursday. You can also
make donations on my Facebook page for the Strike Theater.
But also you can find me on the Wrong About
Everything podcasts and a new podcast called Wrong about Sports
O fun.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, everybody, thank you so much for coming in today. Guys, Brian,
Catherine and Grace really had a good time today. I
appreciate when you guys join us on a freedom Friday.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Sam, thank you to you as well.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Podcasts will be up shortly if you missed any portion
of today's show. Have yourself a fantastic weekend. We're going
to talk about the rise of democrats socialists on Monday
Mornings show. Also, this allegations against Representative of Eric Swalwell,
is this retribution revenge justice? We'll talk about that with
our DC correspondent. Have yourself a fantastic weekend and I'll
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speak to you guys just after six o'clock on Monday.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Bye.