November 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Jon has extended coverage of the impending end of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, including reactions from President Trump and Dem politicians. Andrew Langer joins to offer his opinions on the shutdown news, his reaction to elections across the nation last week, and a controversial SNL host.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll joint Bace Andrews.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Suspicious package arrived at the facility.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
We've got plenty more on the other side. We will
talk much more about this again. You're looking live at
the Senate floor as the Democratic philibuster has been broken.
We have so far reached sixty. We're writing for the
official count, but right now sixty votes that would unlock
moving forward with this plan to reopen the government. On
the Senate side.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
The key thing to note there was the Democrats filibuster.
We're not out of the woods yet, We've just taken
a step forward. We can see the edge of the forest.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Or something. Twina City's News.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Talk A I'm eleven thirty one oh three five FM.
My name is John Justice, and I am so happy
that you are with the show this morning. Joining me
and the master Control booth here on Twin Cities News
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
John.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Went and saw Predator bad Lands last night, really well, yes,
yesterday afternoon, I should say, better than the Vikings game,
of which I missed the second half to go and
watch it. We would have watched it a lot earlier
or a lot sooner. Kyle's been working though, he's very busy,
so it was great. Might be my favorite Predator movie.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
H all right, I don't know about that. Well, you
gotta go. I mean, listen, you go back to the
first one.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The first one's a classic, right, okay, So this is
in terms of modern storytelling, so next to the original,
I would say this is probably this is probably my
next favorite Predator movie. It was very, very, very enjoyable,
so and also a lot more enjoyable than the nonsense
regarding the shutdown, which we'll dive into on the show
(01:53):
today today as well.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So there's that too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Glad that you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Andrew Langer, the political insider, regulatory guru, he'll join us
at six thirty this morning to help break some of
this down and we'll get into more of the local
reaction to everything that has transpired so far.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So let me get you up to speak. We'll set
the table, if you will.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The government shutdown did enter its fortieth day over the weekend.
You had senators in DC that we're working through the weekend.
Oh so sad trying to find a resolution to the
funding fight. It's been disrupting flights, let's federal workers without pay,
mass confusion relating to snap benefits and who is going
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to pay them again. It's going to take a little
bit of time to break down what has transpired that's
caused all of this confusion, apart from the you know,
being more specific that the Democrats, activist judges, activists Supreme
Court justices did everything they could to sew as much
chaos as possible heading into the weekend and throughout the weekend.
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So prior to the vote that took place last night,
Senate Majority Leader John Thuns said the Chamber was a
handful of votes away from passing a bill to reopen
the government, indicating that some progress was made in negotiations.
And then last night a procedural vote was taken and
the Senate voted sixty to forty to move forward to
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go and reopen the government, pass the continuing Resolution without
any guarantee on the Obamacare subsidies, essentially leaving a handshake
deal in place between Democrats and Republicans in Congress that
they will revisit the subsidies later on. All of this
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is to say the Democrats could have ended it well
over thirty days ago and what's happening right now is
you have a handful of Democrats in the Senate that
are basically providing cover for the rest of their party,
many of whom are big mad.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And I know they're big.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Mad because they're posting videos online and they're using a
lot of profanity, which Sam then has to go and edit,
so I can play the audio clips on the air and.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Hopefully I get them all.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
This is the Democrats and how they show that they're
powerful right among the criticism of their own party that
they're weak. They use an abundance of profanity, and they
also don't have any substance whatsoever. I have clips from
Senator Aaron may Quaid, I have Lieutenant Governor Senate candidate
Peggy Flan again. I have quotes from Tim Walls and
the Socket Wrench DFL party chair to share with you
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later on in the show. So, continuing to sort of
again set the stage on what actually has transpired here,
this procedural vote is just that it's basically a vote
of Democrats and Reptupblicans to say, Okay, we agree that
it looks like we have enough people on board to
go ahead and move forward to vote to reopen the government,
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and this could take a couple of days for them
to get their act together to make this to make
this happen now. A lot of the confusion over the
weekend started because the US Supreme Court ended up siding
with President Donald Trump late on Friday, temporarily blocking in
order for the administration to somehow fully fun food stamps
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while Senate Democrats keep the government shut down.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
This caused mass amounts of chaos.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And this wasn't suddenly the Supreme Court agreeing with the
Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This was Justice Brown who.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Ended up issuing a ruling blocking the other activist judges
that were forcing the Trump administration to make these payments
to snap without identifying where they were going to go
and pull the money from. It is very confusing. I
almost need the yarn and the corkboard to be able
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to lay it all out. I will do the best
that I possibly can on the show this morning. But basically,
the activist judges went and attempted to force Trump's hand.
States responded and then Jackson stepped in, and Jackson Brown
stepped in, not the singer, the Justice make sure I
got that clear, and she stopped the federal judge order.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But she did that because.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
There were already moves being made by states to go
and pay SNAP benefits, and now stopping it made it
sound as if the Trump administration doesn't want to pay
anybody Snap benefits, to which you had commentary after commentary,
comment after comment, and post after post online saying, oh
my gosh, look, the Trump administration doesn't want to feed people.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They pushed back on this order.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, those orders were done by activist judges without any
sort of means for the federal government to even move forward.
On top of that, if you have states that are
paying out SNAP benefits at the local level and then
suddenly we have money flowing again from DC, I mean,
do you and I really believe, do you really believe
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for a moment that they're going to reconcile the math
and figure out how much money was paid by the states,
how much money the government needs to go and give
back to the states. I mean, again, you're talking about
nothing but pure and utter chaos, and it was all
intentionally by design. So I'll dive into more details coming up.
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I have a couple of interesting audio clips to play,
including Trump, and I haven't mentioned the filibuster aspect of
this prediction kind of came true. Republicans were getting closer
and closer to coalescing with removing the filibuster and moving
forward with election integrity, and suddenly now Democrats are coming
to the table. It's one of the many reasons why
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they're caving a lot of.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ground to cover.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
On the show this morning, as always, I want to
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Speaker 6 (08:18):
Good morning, and I love your show.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Good morning, John, Welcome to a new week. And listen
to your show this morning, and you're talking about Democrats
being big, mad and shouting and using los profanity and
I'm kind of wondering, Oh, so it's.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Today's a day that ends and why yes, happy Monday
to yes.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It is nothing new. I still like to go and
highlight it when it happens.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
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Speaker 1 (09:03):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
So as you were describing the casts over the weekend,
and am I saying that you were making it sound
bad or anything, but the first thing that came to
my mind as you were describing it was the great
quote from the original Ghostbusters, dogs and cats living together.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's mass hysteria. Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 9 (09:24):
What he means is old Testament, mister mayor real wrath
of God type stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Boiling forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, a bid rising from.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The great human sacrifice.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Dogs and cats living together, massistaria.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And this is what the Democrats have been doing for
the past thirty, well forty days, And now that we're
close to the end without any deal to be struck
regarding the Obamacare subsidies, it just goes to show that
this was nothing but political theater for the last forty days.
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The Democrats could have done this thirty five forty days
ago easily.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So what's changed.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Will The elections are over this year, so that's changed,
and we'll cover this in further detail next hour. But
vulnerable Democrats caving providing cover for other Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Protests are over.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's getting too cold outside in certain parts of the
country to stage another no King's protests as we had
into the holidays. They're caving without getting anything that they've
been demanding, and for what cheap political opportunism, spreading fear
among the voters of their base. President Donald Trump taunted
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Democrats on Saturdays, saying he believed that their caucus was
close to fracturing and he was right. Over the government shutdown,
called on Republicans to doa if the filibuster once and
for all clear the way for his agenda.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Trump said that they were cracking like dogs.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I'm not familiar with that phrase, but the second appearance
of dogs on the show this morning, I'm not sure
cracking like like is that a thing? Is that is
that even a is that? Even is that even a phrase?
I mean, I have never are you familiar with that crack. Yeah,
do dogs crack?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I didn't. I didn't think so.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It happens sometimes when you want to go with colorful descriptions,
you don't always get them right out. Reminded of the
story that I've told on the year before when I
was talking to a local media outlet during my rock
radio days and I made a comment of an issue
being shelved under the rug. That's not how that works
at all. Trump did send a final warning heading over
the weekend. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Is some of the things that we passed if we
terminated the filibuster, voter ID, no mail in voting, no
cash bail, no men in women's sports, no welfare for illegals.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You could go on and on.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
This is two.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Pages of things would do if you did that. Without it,
I don't know that you pass anything because you can't
deal with them. They're really irrational, they really are. But
I was happy, happy to see that a tremendous liability
to this country, a woman that made herself rich in
this country, Nancy Pelosi is quit and she'll be out
of here pretty soon. And that I consider that to
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be a great asset for America.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Regarding the filibuster, as I said on Friday's show, I'm
on board with eliminating it because the Democrats have said
once they get back into power, they're going to do
just that. Right now, I think the opportunity is lost, unfortunately,
depending on how the next few days transpire, and I
don't know if there's going to be another opportunity heading
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into next year, because once they get past the shutdown,
we're right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
On the holidays.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
There's going to be very little appetite between now and
the end of the year to move forward with anything
with anything else. And a part of the reasons why
the reason why the Democrats went and cave the way
that they did is because they're concerned about eliminating the
filibuster and taking away the ability of Democrats to go
and pad voter rolls and conductionnanigans relating to the to
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our elections.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Good morning, John, I'm glad you brought up the filibuster.
I think we still got to keep the gas on
the pedal to Nukebatsucker. This is the soft underbelly of
the Democrat Party right now, and we've got a lot
of time between now and when we got to slow
things down for the mid terms to cram a lot
of stuff in. We got to trifect the Democrats in
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this and get this stuff codified into law, make it
harder to get rid of.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Good morning, Mary John.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Let's not forget to wish the United States Marine Corps
a happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday today.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yes, absolutely, and thank you so much for reminding me
of that as well. All right up, our DC correspondent
political insider Andrew Langer will join us. We'll get his
thoughts on the latest regarding the shutdown. Really bizarre performance
by Nicki Glazer on SNL over the weekend I rape
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molestation jokes. I didn't find it particularly funny. I found
it rather disturbing. Andrew Langer will share his thoughts. We'll
get back to more of your comments as well. From
the iHeartRadio app here on Twin Cities News Talk AM
eleven thirty and one O three five FM.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
The what's called a Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 11 (14:37):
Courn guys Albachrucker here for Salt Lake City say, the
current federal state snap argument that's likely to happen reminds
me of when I was.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
A server in college.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
I'd have a table full of guys and at the
end of the night there would be one bill and
a random pile of twenties in the middle of the table.
If it was a table full of women, there would
be one bill, thirty five copies of receives, pocket calculators,
and recriminations and nobody would go home happy.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, it's about that confusing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Just just to.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
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Speaker 4 (15:19):
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Speaker 1 (15:32):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
It's a it's a mouthful, John, but you know, it's
about as confusing as trying to noodle all of this
stuff through what all is lots lots of moving parts.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
My favorite part of the moving parts last night was
the fact that they were all waiting on John Cornan
to arrive from Dallas Airport in order to actually have
the vote and say, he, oh, what's where's John Cornyan?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Is he just being a diva? No, he was.
Speaker 12 (15:56):
He went back to Texas and was taking taking time
from to get back from the airport.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So the Senate vote is the first in several votes needed.
So the Senate needs to modify the original House past
continuing resolution to move forward. So does it go back
to the House now? And then it's going to go
back to the Senate? Do we know what the process
is going to be at this point in time?
Speaker 12 (16:21):
It goes back to the House, and and and that's
and the and the House votes provided that it's acceptable,
and then that's should be all well and done. And
there's usually what happens is they've got to go and negotiate,
you know, any real fundamental changes between the two Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Mean, listen, it's it.
Speaker 12 (16:40):
Is largely what you and I have talked about in
the past. You know, the elections, the the off cycle
elections were held last week. The Democrats won. They got
you know, the intent of their leverage of the shutdown
was to you know, inflict enough pain on the American
people so that they would take out their.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Anger on Republicans.
Speaker 12 (17:01):
They got that, and so they came back last week
and started negotiating. It just took a little bit longer
than I thought it was going to at the end
of the week. But but you know, they they they,
they they It's one of those things that's funny.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Because you had the hue and cry on MSNBC last night.
Oh well, they didn't get anything.
Speaker 12 (17:22):
You know, why are we voting to reopen, which is,
by the way, an admission that it's the Democrats that
were doing this.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Well, they did get what they wanted.
Speaker 12 (17:29):
They got they got the you know, they now control
Virginia and they continue to cur control New Jersey and
so they can move their agenda headlong there inflicting pain
in those states. Then they've got the obviously you've got
the jerrymandering situation in Virginia that's going to move forward
jerrymandering and other states. And so they are playing a
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very long game in terms of you know, maintaining control
and trying to disrupt the Trump agenda right right, and listen,
it's not as though they were hiding at John. The
reality is that, you know, the New Jersey and the
Virginia elections were all about, you know, becoming a bulwark
against Trump. That's they were unabashed about that, certainly Jay Jones,
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certainly Abigail Spenberger, I think Mikey Cheryl as well.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
So anyway, so that's where we are right.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
They got what they wanted, even if they didn't get
approximately what they were claiming that they wanted, and so
now they can move forward.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They got what they wanted narrative wise, in what they
were attempting to do by keeping it shut down for
as long as they did. I got a few different
places we can go here. So let me go here
first in terms of what they did get, and they
also got the ability in the future depending on how
Republicans move forward. Now it looks as if the philibuster
conversations seems to be shoved from the side, even though
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this is going to come back up.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And this is what I wanted to mention, was.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
That if and when, let's say, the philibuster is still
in place when Democrats do get power back in Congress,
I mean they now have, just in terms of talking points,
plenty of Republicans on board with eliminating vocally the filibuster.
When they go to move forward to eliminate the filibuster,
and I changed my tune on this, Andrew. At the
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end of end of the week, I was not I
was not on board with the filibuster when you and
I spoke on Monday. By the end of the week
I had changed my tune regarding that because I think
Trump made some really good arguments relating to what he
wants to do with it. But the same time, Democrats
have been very vocal about wanting to get rid.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Of it, and I'd rather go and get rid of
it on our.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Terms and move forward with what we want to do
than allowing them the opportunity, if and when they get
in power, to go and eliminate it and do what
they want to they want to do. But as of
right now, it looks as if the conversation surrounding the
filibuster has all but died.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day, right,
that's that's just it.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It's you tread, you tread carefully.
Speaker 12 (20:04):
But you know, it's interesting because my policy fellow, the
woman I work with at SEAPEC, you know, she's long
talked to you know, her theory about a lot of
what Trump has been doing, you know, in terms of
getting the courts, you know, the courts sort of pushing
back on the various aspects of the Trumps.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Of the Trump agenda.
Speaker 12 (20:24):
You know, her theory has been that it's been a
way of sort of laying out precedence of that power
so that when the Democrats do, when Gavin Newsom comes
back into power, there are these other precedents that are
out there to sort of say, no, you can't do this,
Yes you can do X, No you can't do why.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
And I think there's some merit to that.
Speaker 12 (20:47):
I'm not sure I agree with all of it, but
you know it is nevertheless, all of these things, uh,
you know, represent the various changes in how we conduct business.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How much let's go let's go back to last week,
because you and I haven't had a chance to talk
since the since the election last week.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And how much I mean, how much do you put
into the results?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I mean you're talking about mostly you know, blue states
where Democrats won in an off year election in which
Trump wasn't on the on the ballot. There wasn't a
huge you know a lot of huge surprises. I think
the distance between some of these victories was a little
wighter than what people anticipated. And you know, something that
I discovered, you know, in the wake of the election results,
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was that Abigail Spamberger had run relatively for Democrats right now,
comparatively speaking, moderate campaign compared to what you hear from
a lot of Democrats, including being very vocal about some
of the issues regarding trans you know, gender identity, racial issues,
saying that those were not things that Democrats were going
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to be able to win elections off of. So I'm
just curious, you know, how much do you put into
your commentary relating to the results of the election as
being negative for Republicans and a big, huge positive for Democrats.
Speaker 12 (22:08):
Well, I mean, listen, there are two ways to look
at it, John, One is on the structural side of it, right,
which is, what do these elections mean structurally for the
republic and what do they mean for the folks in
these states? And that's and what do they mean overall?
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Right?
Speaker 12 (22:21):
And that's that's the bad part of it, which is
that you know, if you know, the Democrat General Assembly
in Virginia which didn't pick up it, it didn't pick
up as many seats as they did, you know in
twenty seventeen, you know, the first Trump off cycle election.
But nevertheless, they have a resounding majority in the Virginia legislature.
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If they're able to gerrymander out a number of Republican seats, right,
it changes the makeup right in the same way California
doing it changes the makeup sure, And it opens up
the door potentially for Maryland to do the same thing.
And they only have one Republican member of Congress. But
still it's an important thing to have so structurally down
the road, it means a great deal politically, you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I mean, here's the thing. It wasn't in Virginia.
Speaker 12 (23:12):
It wasn't as bad as it was in twenty seventeen,
and that was bad. I would push back on Abigail's Spanberger.
Abigail Spanberger basically ran the race that Kamala Harris tried
to run in twenty twenty four, which is to say
nothing for as long as possible in the hopes of
appearing more moderate than.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
She actually is, and with the same, by the way,
the same.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
Sort of word salad issues that Kamala Harris would get
on the campaign trail. The difference was there wasn't nearly
as much exposure. She was largely helped, she was able.
Abigail Spamberger was able to define win Some Earl series
early on. And by the way, what I love about
this is we can no longer say that when an
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African American one and is not elected to office, uh,
it's racism and misogyny. Maybe it's just politics, right, because
you know, Winsom Earl Seers would have been the first
African American woman elected to become in Virginia. Not that
we play those kinds of politics, but the point is,
hopefully it puts no small measure of that to bed. Yeah, yeah, right, so,
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but but you know, there was you know, wins Earl
Seers is not a great candidate. She is a lovely woman,
she's very smart, she is uh you know, politically solid,
but she's just not a great candidate.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
And the campaign wasn't all that great.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
And Abigail Spenberger was able to define her very early on,
by the way, using a racist trope that nobody is
talking about, by essentially painting, uh, Winsome Earl.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Sears as an angry black woman.
Speaker 12 (24:49):
That was the big The big campaign ad was sort
of wins Some Earl Sears getting angry.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
At a at a after.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Being heckled at a campaign speech, and so you know
that that's really what did it. You know, it was
a combination of those things, plus it really being able
to get the former federal for you know, foreign to
current foreign and current furloughed federal employees. Right, this is
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where the shutdown is so important in the Virginia race.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Right.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
The longer that the furlough, the longer the shutdown goes on,
the more angry federal workers are going to get.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
And so they're going to vote for the change side
of it.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
And so, you know, the most less and the most disturbing,
the most disturbing aspect of the election results were not
only by how much Jason mirais, who really is a
great guy and has a real future in politics, the
attorney general, how much Jason Mirs lost to Jay Jones,
the candidate who not only fantasized about killing Republican children,
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but also engaged in sort of self dealing in terms
of not just a speeding ticket, but a criminal reckless
driving charge. Yeah, and by the way, given the ongoing
investigation of it, it may make him ineligible to become
attorney general. But my point is the amount by which
the amount by which Jay Jones b Jason Miaris that
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that is that is a very disturbing.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Number right there.
Speaker 12 (26:22):
But again right this gets back to the shutdown politics here.
That's what they wanted because they are looking at the
long term of what they can gain in terms of
regaining and holding onto power.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Talking with Andrew Langer, yeah, the discourse is just atrocious
and the base of the Democrat Party just doesn't seem
to care about those types of threats. And then you
actually see that translate into I got done with my
prep early. I know you wanted to mention it. So
I went back and watched the opening monologue of Nicky Glazer,
(26:57):
the comedian on SNL from over the week in Uh,
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
What you have to say, I mean disturbing. You had no.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
I thought it was funny, funny, it's Nicky Glazer.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Nicky Klaser makes Nicky Glazer makes jokes about her about
her her lady parts, she makes jones of jokes about
her sex life.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
She makes jokes but sex trafficking and bowl the station.
I mean, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
Listen, but that's that's you know again, it's listen. Lorne
Michael's wanted it up there. I yeah, I mean, listen,
it's so funny because my wife was just a guest
at it, and I'm like, it's Nicky Blazer.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
This is this is standard roast level comedy.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
She is the hot female equivalent of Jeff Ross, you know,
or the hot female equivalent.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Of David Tell or Jim Norton. That's that's what they do.
Speaker 13 (27:51):
What I did love was I we didn't even put
this in your prep but but Pete Davidson made it
a surprise appearance at which she also he poked it at.
Speaker 12 (28:01):
Lorne Michaels staying on as SNL producer, and you know,
Tina Fey being ready because I guess the New York
Times did a massive story. I don't know if you
know this, John Book, Pete Davidson and Colin Jost, you know,
mister Scarlett Johansson. They bought a decommissioned Staten Island ferry
and apparently it's turned into some major boondoggle in terms
of money spending. So he came on to answer the
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New York Times story about it. Listen, at the end
of the day, right, it's SNL. We know that SNL
is out of touch with so much in America. I've
benefit as I said, I've benefited Nicki Glazer. You bring
Nicky Glazer on and you have herd her stand up
for the monologue.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's what you're gonna get.
Speaker 12 (28:44):
She's not Patton Oswalt, she's not John mulaney.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
She's Nicky Glazer. This is who she is.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Speaking of Pete Davidson, we went and saw that the
youngest Kyle like say young, he's going to be nineteen
here in a few weeks. But to go see the
New Predator bad Lands yesterday, which was great, by the way.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was really really fun movie, but totally got tricked.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
In the middle of the trailers, Pete Davidson pops up
and you know, it starts off and I'm thinking, I'm
watching a trailer. It was an ad for Alexa. I
felt so duped.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I felt so right in the middle of all the
other trailers. And they're spiking in ads, which I'm fine with,
by the way, if this is how movie theaters need
to go and stay alive into the future, I have
no issue with them running ads before.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I can always show up to the movie late. It
doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
It's I logged. I logged time over the weekend with
the nineteen sixty John Sturge's classic The Magnificent Seven.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I don't even know what got it in my head,
but I decided to watch it. So yeah, that was
that was that was time well spent.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'll toss a recommendation out.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Only two episodes have been released so far, but the
new Apple Plus show plurivis by the guy that did
Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad interesting, so I'll throw
that one.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I hear good things about that. I hear good things
about slow horses. So you know, we're waiting for landing
and I'm back.
Speaker 13 (30:07):
Yeah yeah, so so so that's good.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But yeah, John, So you know, it's lots lots going on.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
I've got an interview with a guy named doctor Van Skin, economist,
former Trump Administration OMB official, talking about regulatory cost issues.
You're gonna see a lot more of this in the
coming weeks in terms of the podcast work that I'm doing.
There's listen, there is some really exciting work being done
across the country about dealing with regulatory issues and how
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we look at the economic impacts of regulation.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
Stuff coming out again of Virginia and stuff coming out
of Idaho. You know, we're we're really, we're really in
a in a renaissance period when it comes to looking
at regulatory impacts both directly and indirectly on the US economy.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
So stay tuned for those.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Anything specific you want to point people out. I know
you're just doing a bit of a promo there, anything
else before I cut you?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Lit?
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean obviously, yeah, today's interview
with with with Van Skin. But you know, as always,
if you're not following me on on X, because may
be news coming up soon, uh at Andrew Underscore Langer
on X, please check it out.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
And I know it'll be a couple of weeks until
we have a chance to talk again, So have a
good couple of weeks and well we'll talk to you
hopefully before December.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
Yeah, no, no, definitely And and yeah, so with that,
with that score, you know, because you obviously should be
tuned into John Justice in the mornings and all the
rest of the Twin Cities news programming. But you can
always find my podcast at Larry O'Connor O'Connor and company
shows online, So go go check those out.
Speaker 13 (31:46):
Too.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Always great talking with you, and we'll talk to you
again real soon, Buddy, Happy Thanksgiving, talk to John.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Good morning John, Happy Monday. Hey Pa'm getting rid of
the fellow buster. I can't disagree with you more. We
need to keep it. But I think what we need
to do is we need to change the rule on
the filibuster. If you're going to filibuster, get your butt
down there in the Senate well and talk and talk
and talk and talk. It needs to be painful to
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whoever tries to filibuster as well, make it work the
way it used to bring it back. Have a great day.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where the filibuster talk goes.
There is an assumption that can be made that, seeing
how Republicans could not get on board heading into everything
that's transpired over the weekend and Sunday with this potential
end to the shutdown, that if and when Democrats were
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to get back into power, they would be as reluctant
as Republicans are. That's putting a lot of faith in
Democrats right now, which I don't have, which is why
I was in support and I continue to be in
support now of getting rid of the filibuster and moving
forward with everything that we can possibly do to shore
up our election integrity. But because of where we are
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right now with the shutdown and the fact that Republicans
just did not have the votes heading into the weekend,
I think at this point in time, it's probably not
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Let me get back to this though.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
President Donald Trump, as we mentioned, did taunt the Democrats
on Saturday, talking about how they were close to cracking.
His comments came just twenty four hours after Schumer put
forth a proposal to bring an end to the shutdown,
saying that Democrats would come to the table if Republicans
would sign off on a one year extension of the
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Obamacare subsidies, a move that would bring the healthcare discussion
back to the forefront just in time for the midterm elections.
You had Senator Mark Wayne Mullen already said the Schumer's
offer was dead on arrival, and we know that it
was based on that procedural vote. Senator John Kennedy on
Fox News gave a slightly more colorful take.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Here's a bit of what he had to say.
Speaker 14 (33:59):
What is your response to Chuck Schumer's proposal here to
keep those ACA benefits going for another year, bipartisan committee
to work on those and reopen the government with the clean.
Speaker 15 (34:10):
Cr Oh, God, please give me patience, because if if
you give me strength, I'm going to need bail money.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Kennedy's the best on a CNN Dana Bash cornered Representative
Jamie Raskin on this issue. This was on Friday. He
was clearly low to answer the question.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
One of the things that he has been talking about
for the last couple of days more intensely is getting
ready to filibuster. That's actually something that you wanted to
do when Joe Biden was president. Thanks for getting through
the Senate's got an area where you agree with him.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We don't need a procedural fix at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So that you wanted the filibuster to be ended when
Biden was president. But now no, you know, I'm not
in the Senate, so I've got no say in that.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
All right, coming up, I'm going to do my best
to break down all of the confusion that took place
regarding snap payments. You had activist judges attempting to force
the Trump administration to move forward with making snap payments,
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not giving any indication on where the government was supposed
to go and pull this money from. So because of that,
you had the USDA telling the States, hey, we need
to move forward with making SNAP benefits. Local media outlets
were quick to go and frame this as if it
was Governor Tim Walls announcing November snap payments. And then
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you had Justice Brown Jackson come out pausing those orders
by those activist judges, forcing the USA the USDA to
go back to the States and say stop making any
sort of payments, which, of course without the proper context,
Democrats grabbed onto and tried to paint the Trump administration
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as being horrible and awful and not wanting people to
have the ability to buy food to eat.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
We'll get some more of your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
From the iHeartRadio app as well via the talkbacks brought
to you by Lyndahl Realty. Coming up on hour two
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I'll joint Bace Andrews.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
We've got plenty more on the other side. We will
talk much more about this again. You're looking live at
the Senate floor as the Democratic philibuster has been broken.
We have so far reached sixty. We're writing for the
official count, but right now sixty votes that would unlock
moving forward with this plan to reopen the government. On
the Senate side.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
The key thing to note there was the Democrats filibuster.
We're not out of the woods yet, We've just taken
a step forward. We can see the edge of the forest.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Or something. Twina City's News.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Talk A I'm eleven thirty one oh three five FM.
My name is John Justice, and I am so happy
that you are with the show this morning. Joining me
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
John.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Went and saw Predator bad Lands last night, really well, yes,
yesterday afternoon, I should say, better than the Vikings game,
of which I missed the second half to go and
watch it. We would have watched it a lot earlier
or a lot sooner. Kyle's been working though, he's very busy,
so it was great. Might be my favorite Predator movie.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
H all right, I don't know about that. Well, you
gotta go. I mean, listen, you go back to the
first one.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The first one's a classic, right, okay, So this is
in terms of modern storytelling, so next to the original,
I would say this is probably this is probably my
next favorite Predator movie. It was very, very, very enjoyable,
so and also a lot more enjoyable than the nonsense
regarding the shutdown, which we'll dive into on the show
(01:53):
today today as well.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So there's that too.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Glad that you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Andrew Langer, the political insider, regulatory guru, he'll join us
at six thirty this morning to help break some of
this down and we'll get into more of the local
reaction to everything that has transpired so far.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So let me get you up to speak. We'll set
the table, if you will.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The government shutdown did enter its fortieth day over the weekend.
You had senators in DC that we're working through the weekend.
Oh so sad trying to find a resolution to the
funding fight. It's been disrupting flights, let's federal workers without pay,
mass confusion relating to snap benefits and who is going
(02:38):
to pay them again. It's going to take a little
bit of time to break down what has transpired that's
caused all of this confusion, apart from the you know,
being more specific that the Democrats, activist judges, activists Supreme
Court justices did everything they could to sew as much
chaos as possible heading into the weekend and throughout the weekend.
(03:03):
So prior to the vote that took place last night,
Senate Majority Leader John Thuns said the Chamber was a
handful of votes away from passing a bill to reopen
the government, indicating that some progress was made in negotiations.
And then last night a procedural vote was taken and
the Senate voted sixty to forty to move forward to
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go and reopen the government, pass the continuing Resolution without
any guarantee on the Obamacare subsidies, essentially leaving a handshake
deal in place between Democrats and Republicans in Congress that
they will revisit the subsidies later on. All of this
(03:47):
is to say the Democrats could have ended it well
over thirty days ago and what's happening right now is
you have a handful of Democrats in the Senate that
are basically providing cover for the rest of their party,
many of whom are big mad.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And I know they're big.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Mad because they're posting videos online and they're using a
lot of profanity, which Sam then has to go and edit,
so I can play the audio clips on the air and.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Hopefully I get them all.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
This is the Democrats and how they show that they're
powerful right among the criticism of their own party that
they're weak. They use an abundance of profanity, and they
also don't have any substance whatsoever. I have clips from
Senator Aaron may Quaid, I have Lieutenant Governor Senate candidate
Peggy Flan again. I have quotes from Tim Walls and
the Socket Wrench DFL party chair to share with you
(04:47):
later on in the show. So, continuing to sort of
again set the stage on what actually has transpired here,
this procedural vote is just that it's basically a vote
of Democrats and Reptupblicans to say, Okay, we agree that
it looks like we have enough people on board to
go ahead and move forward to vote to reopen the government,
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and this could take a couple of days for them
to get their act together to make this to make
this happen now. A lot of the confusion over the
weekend started because the US Supreme Court ended up siding
with President Donald Trump late on Friday, temporarily blocking in
order for the administration to somehow fully fun food stamps
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while Senate Democrats keep the government shut down.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
This caused mass amounts of chaos.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And this wasn't suddenly the Supreme Court agreeing with the
Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This was Justice Brown who.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Ended up issuing a ruling blocking the other activist judges
that were forcing the Trump administration to make these payments
to snap without identifying where they were going to go
and pull the money from. It is very confusing. I
almost need the yarn and the corkboard to be able
(06:06):
to lay it all out. I will do the best
that I possibly can on the show this morning. But basically,
the activist judges went and attempted to force Trump's hand.
States responded and then Jackson stepped in, and Jackson Brown
stepped in, not the singer, the Justice make sure I
got that clear, and she stopped the federal judge order.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But she did that because.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
There were already moves being made by states to go
and pay SNAP benefits, and now stopping it made it
sound as if the Trump administration doesn't want to pay
anybody Snap benefits, to which you had commentary after commentary,
comment after comment, and post after post online saying, oh
my gosh, look, the Trump administration doesn't want to feed people.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They pushed back on this order.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
No, those orders were done by activist judges without any
sort of means for the federal government to even move forward.
On top of that, if you have states that are
paying out SNAP benefits at the local level and then
suddenly we have money flowing again from DC, I mean,
do you and I really believe, do you really believe
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for a moment that they're going to reconcile the math
and figure out how much money was paid by the states,
how much money the government needs to go and give
back to the states. I mean, again, you're talking about
nothing but pure and utter chaos, and it was all
intentionally by design. So I'll dive into more details coming up.
(07:34):
I have a couple of interesting audio clips to play,
including Trump, and I haven't mentioned the filibuster aspect of
this prediction kind of came true. Republicans were getting closer
and closer to coalescing with removing the filibuster and moving
forward with election integrity, and suddenly now Democrats are coming
to the table. It's one of the many reasons why
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they're caving a lot of.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ground to cover.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
On the show this morning, as always, I want to
hear from you. You can email me Justice at iHeartRadio
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Speaker 6 (08:18):
Good morning, and I love your show.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Good morning, John, Welcome to a new week. And listen
to your show this morning, and you're talking about Democrats
being big, mad and shouting and using los profanity and
I'm kind of wondering, Oh, so it's.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Today's a day that ends and why yes, happy Monday
to yes.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It is nothing new. I still like to go and
highlight it when it happens.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Thank you. JD twin City's News Talk.
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Speaker 1 (09:03):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
So as you were describing the casts over the weekend,
and am I saying that you were making it sound
bad or anything, but the first thing that came to
my mind as you were describing it was the great
quote from the original Ghostbusters, dogs and cats living together.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It's mass hysteria. Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 9 (09:24):
What he means is old Testament, mister mayor real wrath
of God type stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Boiling forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, a bid rising from.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The great human sacrifice.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Dogs and cats living together, massistaria.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And this is what the Democrats have been doing for
the past thirty, well forty days, And now that we're
close to the end without any deal to be struck
regarding the Obamacare subsidies, it just goes to show that
this was nothing but political theater for the last forty days.
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The Democrats could have done this thirty five forty days
ago easily.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So what's changed.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Will The elections are over this year, so that's changed,
and we'll cover this in further detail next hour. But
vulnerable Democrats caving providing cover for other Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Protests are over.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's getting too cold outside in certain parts of the
country to stage another no King's protests as we had
into the holidays. They're caving without getting anything that they've
been demanding, and for what cheap political opportunism, spreading fear
among the voters of their base. President Donald Trump taunted
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Democrats on Saturdays, saying he believed that their caucus was
close to fracturing and he was right. Over the government shutdown,
called on Republicans to doa if the filibuster once and
for all clear the way for his agenda.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Trump said that they were cracking like dogs.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I'm not familiar with that phrase, but the second appearance
of dogs on the show this morning, I'm not sure
cracking like like is that a thing? Is that is
that even a is that? Even is that even a phrase?
I mean, I have never are you familiar with that crack. Yeah,
do dogs crack?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I didn't. I didn't think so.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It happens sometimes when you want to go with colorful descriptions,
you don't always get them right out. Reminded of the
story that I've told on the year before when I
was talking to a local media outlet during my rock
radio days and I made a comment of an issue
being shelved under the rug. That's not how that works
at all. Trump did send a final warning heading over
the weekend. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Is some of the things that we passed if we
terminated the filibuster, voter ID, no mail in voting, no
cash bail, no men in women's sports, no welfare for illegals.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You could go on and on.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
This is two.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Pages of things would do if you did that. Without it,
I don't know that you pass anything because you can't
deal with them. They're really irrational, they really are. But
I was happy, happy to see that a tremendous liability
to this country, a woman that made herself rich in
this country, Nancy Pelosi is quit and she'll be out
of here pretty soon. And that I consider that to
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be a great asset for America.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Regarding the filibuster, as I said on Friday's show, I'm
on board with eliminating it because the Democrats have said
once they get back into power, they're going to do
just that. Right now, I think the opportunity is lost, unfortunately,
depending on how the next few days transpire, and I
don't know if there's going to be another opportunity heading
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into next year, because once they get past the shutdown,
we're right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
On the holidays.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
There's going to be very little appetite between now and
the end of the year to move forward with anything
with anything else. And a part of the reasons why
the reason why the Democrats went and cave the way
that they did is because they're concerned about eliminating the
filibuster and taking away the ability of Democrats to go
and pad voter rolls and conductionnanigans relating to the to
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our elections.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Good morning, John, I'm glad you brought up the filibuster.
I think we still got to keep the gas on
the pedal to Nukebatsucker. This is the soft underbelly of
the Democrat Party right now, and we've got a lot
of time between now and when we got to slow
things down for the mid terms to cram a lot
of stuff in. We got to trifect the Democrats in
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this and get this stuff codified into law, make it
harder to get rid of.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Good morning, Mary John.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Let's not forget to wish the United States Marine Corps
a happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday today.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yes, absolutely, and thank you so much for reminding me
of that as well. All right up, our DC correspondent
political insider Andrew Langer will join us. We'll get his
thoughts on the latest regarding the shutdown. Really bizarre performance
by Nicki Glazer on SNL over the weekend I rape
(14:15):
molestation jokes. I didn't find it particularly funny. I found
it rather disturbing. Andrew Langer will share his thoughts. We'll
get back to more of your comments as well. From
the iHeartRadio app here on Twin Cities News Talk AM
eleven thirty and one O three five FM.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
The what's called a Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 11 (14:37):
Courn guys Albachrucker here for Salt Lake City say, the
current federal state snap argument that's likely to happen reminds
me of when I was.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
A server in college.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
I'd have a table full of guys and at the
end of the night there would be one bill and
a random pile of twenties in the middle of the table.
If it was a table full of women, there would
be one bill, thirty five copies of receives, pocket calculators,
and recriminations and nobody would go home happy.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, it's about that confusing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Just just to.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
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Speaker 4 (15:19):
My name is John Justice, and that chuckling fellow on
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Institute for Liberty, Andrew Langer.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
It's a it's a mouthful, John, but you know, it's
about as confusing as trying to noodle all of this
stuff through what all is lots lots of moving parts.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (15:42):
My favorite part of the moving parts last night was
the fact that they were all waiting on John Cornan
to arrive from Dallas Airport in order to actually have
the vote and say, he, oh, what's where's John Cornyan?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Is he just being a diva? No, he was.
Speaker 12 (15:56):
He went back to Texas and was taking taking time
from to get back from the airport.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So the Senate vote is the first in several votes needed.
So the Senate needs to modify the original House past
continuing resolution to move forward. So does it go back
to the House now? And then it's going to go
back to the Senate? Do we know what the process
is going to be at this point in time?
Speaker 12 (16:21):
It goes back to the House, and and and that's
and the and the House votes provided that it's acceptable,
and then that's should be all well and done. And
there's usually what happens is they've got to go and negotiate,
you know, any real fundamental changes between the two Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Mean, listen, it's it.
Speaker 12 (16:40):
Is largely what you and I have talked about in
the past. You know, the elections, the the off cycle
elections were held last week. The Democrats won. They got
you know, the intent of their leverage of the shutdown
was to you know, inflict enough pain on the American
people so that they would take out their.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Anger on Republicans.
Speaker 12 (17:01):
They got that, and so they came back last week
and started negotiating. It just took a little bit longer
than I thought it was going to at the end
of the week. But but you know, they they they,
they they It's one of those things that's funny.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Because you had the hue and cry on MSNBC last night.
Oh well, they didn't get anything.
Speaker 12 (17:22):
You know, why are we voting to reopen, which is,
by the way, an admission that it's the Democrats that
were doing this.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Well, they did get what they wanted.
Speaker 12 (17:29):
They got they got the you know, they now control
Virginia and they continue to cur control New Jersey and
so they can move their agenda headlong there inflicting pain
in those states. Then they've got the obviously you've got
the jerrymandering situation in Virginia that's going to move forward
jerrymandering and other states. And so they are playing a
(17:52):
very long game in terms of you know, maintaining control
and trying to disrupt the Trump agenda right right, and listen,
it's not as though they were hiding at John. The
reality is that, you know, the New Jersey and the
Virginia elections were all about, you know, becoming a bulwark
against Trump. That's they were unabashed about that, certainly Jay Jones,
(18:16):
certainly Abigail Spenberger, I think Mikey Cheryl as well.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
So anyway, so that's where we are right.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
They got what they wanted, even if they didn't get
approximately what they were claiming that they wanted, and so
now they can move forward.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They got what they wanted narrative wise, in what they
were attempting to do by keeping it shut down for
as long as they did. I got a few different
places we can go here. So let me go here
first in terms of what they did get, and they
also got the ability in the future depending on how
Republicans move forward. Now it looks as if the philibuster
conversations seems to be shoved from the side, even though
(18:52):
this is going to come back up.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And this is what I wanted to mention, was.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
That if and when, let's say, the philibuster is still
in place when Democrats do get power back in Congress,
I mean they now have, just in terms of talking points,
plenty of Republicans on board with eliminating vocally the filibuster.
When they go to move forward to eliminate the filibuster,
and I changed my tune on this, Andrew. At the
(19:16):
end of end of the week, I was not I
was not on board with the filibuster when you and
I spoke on Monday. By the end of the week
I had changed my tune regarding that because I think
Trump made some really good arguments relating to what he
wants to do with it. But the same time, Democrats
have been very vocal about wanting to get rid.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Of it, and I'd rather go and get rid of
it on our.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Terms and move forward with what we want to do
than allowing them the opportunity, if and when they get
in power, to go and eliminate it and do what
they want to they want to do. But as of
right now, it looks as if the conversation surrounding the
filibuster has all but died.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day, right,
that's that's just it.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
It's you tread, you tread carefully.
Speaker 12 (20:04):
But you know, it's interesting because my policy fellow, the
woman I work with at SEAPEC, you know, she's long
talked to you know, her theory about a lot of
what Trump has been doing, you know, in terms of
getting the courts, you know, the courts sort of pushing
back on the various aspects of the Trumps.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Of the Trump agenda.
Speaker 12 (20:24):
You know, her theory has been that it's been a
way of sort of laying out precedence of that power
so that when the Democrats do, when Gavin Newsom comes
back into power, there are these other precedents that are
out there to sort of say, no, you can't do this,
Yes you can do X, No you can't do why.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
And I think there's some merit to that.
Speaker 12 (20:47):
I'm not sure I agree with all of it, but
you know it is nevertheless, all of these things, uh,
you know, represent the various changes in how we conduct business.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How much let's go let's go back to last week,
because you and I haven't had a chance to talk
since the since the election last week.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And how much I mean, how much do you put
into the results?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I mean you're talking about mostly you know, blue states
where Democrats won in an off year election in which
Trump wasn't on the on the ballot. There wasn't a
huge you know a lot of huge surprises. I think
the distance between some of these victories was a little
wighter than what people anticipated. And you know, something that
I discovered, you know, in the wake of the election results,
(21:34):
was that Abigail Spamberger had run relatively for Democrats right now,
comparatively speaking, moderate campaign compared to what you hear from
a lot of Democrats, including being very vocal about some
of the issues regarding trans you know, gender identity, racial issues,
saying that those were not things that Democrats were going
(21:55):
to be able to win elections off of. So I'm
just curious, you know, how much do you put into
your commentary relating to the results of the election as
being negative for Republicans and a big, huge positive for Democrats.
Speaker 12 (22:08):
Well, I mean, listen, there are two ways to look
at it, John, One is on the structural side of it, right,
which is, what do these elections mean structurally for the
republic and what do they mean for the folks in
these states? And that's and what do they mean overall?
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Right?
Speaker 12 (22:21):
And that's that's the bad part of it, which is
that you know, if you know, the Democrat General Assembly
in Virginia which didn't pick up it, it didn't pick
up as many seats as they did, you know in
twenty seventeen, you know, the first Trump off cycle election.
But nevertheless, they have a resounding majority in the Virginia legislature.
(22:45):
If they're able to gerrymander out a number of Republican seats, right,
it changes the makeup right in the same way California
doing it changes the makeup sure, And it opens up
the door potentially for Maryland to do the same thing.
And they only have one Republican member of Congress. But
still it's an important thing to have so structurally down
the road, it means a great deal politically, you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I mean, here's the thing. It wasn't in Virginia.
Speaker 12 (23:12):
It wasn't as bad as it was in twenty seventeen,
and that was bad. I would push back on Abigail's Spanberger.
Abigail Spanberger basically ran the race that Kamala Harris tried
to run in twenty twenty four, which is to say
nothing for as long as possible in the hopes of
appearing more moderate than.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
She actually is, and with the same, by the way,
the same.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
Sort of word salad issues that Kamala Harris would get
on the campaign trail. The difference was there wasn't nearly
as much exposure. She was largely helped, she was able.
Abigail Spamberger was able to define win Some Earl series
early on. And by the way, what I love about
this is we can no longer say that when an
(23:58):
African American one and is not elected to office, uh,
it's racism and misogyny. Maybe it's just politics, right, because
you know, Winsom Earl Seers would have been the first
African American woman elected to become in Virginia. Not that
we play those kinds of politics, but the point is,
hopefully it puts no small measure of that to bed. Yeah, yeah, right, so,
(24:20):
but but you know, there was you know, wins Earl
Seers is not a great candidate. She is a lovely woman,
she's very smart, she is uh you know, politically solid,
but she's just not a great candidate.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
And the campaign wasn't all that great.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
And Abigail Spenberger was able to define her very early on,
by the way, using a racist trope that nobody is
talking about, by essentially painting, uh, Winsome Earl.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Sears as an angry black woman.
Speaker 12 (24:49):
That was the big The big campaign ad was sort
of wins Some Earl Sears getting angry.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
At a at a after.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Being heckled at a campaign speech, and so you know
that that's really what did it. You know, it was
a combination of those things, plus it really being able
to get the former federal for you know, foreign to
current foreign and current furloughed federal employees. Right, this is
(25:17):
where the shutdown is so important in the Virginia race.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Right.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
The longer that the furlough, the longer the shutdown goes on,
the more angry federal workers are going to get.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
And so they're going to vote for the change side
of it.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
And so, you know, the most less and the most disturbing,
the most disturbing aspect of the election results were not
only by how much Jason mirais, who really is a
great guy and has a real future in politics, the
attorney general, how much Jason Mirs lost to Jay Jones,
the candidate who not only fantasized about killing Republican children,
(25:53):
but also engaged in sort of self dealing in terms
of not just a speeding ticket, but a criminal reckless
driving charge. Yeah, and by the way, given the ongoing
investigation of it, it may make him ineligible to become
attorney general. But my point is the amount by which
the amount by which Jay Jones b Jason Miaris that
(26:16):
that is that is a very disturbing.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Number right there.
Speaker 12 (26:22):
But again right this gets back to the shutdown politics here.
That's what they wanted because they are looking at the
long term of what they can gain in terms of
regaining and holding onto power.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Talking with Andrew Langer, yeah, the discourse is just atrocious
and the base of the Democrat Party just doesn't seem
to care about those types of threats. And then you
actually see that translate into I got done with my
prep early. I know you wanted to mention it. So
I went back and watched the opening monologue of Nicky Glazer,
(26:57):
the comedian on SNL from over the week in Uh,
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
What you have to say, I mean disturbing. You had no.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
I thought it was funny, funny, it's Nicky Glazer.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Nicky Klaser makes Nicky Glazer makes jokes about her about
her her lady parts, she makes jones of jokes about
her sex life.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
She makes jokes but sex trafficking and bowl the station.
I mean, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
Listen, but that's that's you know again, it's listen. Lorne
Michael's wanted it up there. I yeah, I mean, listen,
it's so funny because my wife was just a guest
at it, and I'm like, it's Nicky Blazer.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
This is this is standard roast level comedy.
Speaker 12 (27:41):
She is the hot female equivalent of Jeff Ross, you know,
or the hot female equivalent.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Of David Tell or Jim Norton. That's that's what they do.
Speaker 13 (27:51):
What I did love was I we didn't even put
this in your prep but but Pete Davidson made it
a surprise appearance at which she also he poked it at.
Speaker 12 (28:01):
Lorne Michaels staying on as SNL producer, and you know,
Tina Fey being ready because I guess the New York
Times did a massive story. I don't know if you
know this, John Book, Pete Davidson and Colin Jost, you know,
mister Scarlett Johansson. They bought a decommissioned Staten Island ferry
and apparently it's turned into some major boondoggle in terms
of money spending. So he came on to answer the
(28:25):
New York Times story about it. Listen, at the end
of the day, right, it's SNL. We know that SNL
is out of touch with so much in America. I've
benefit as I said, I've benefited Nicki Glazer. You bring
Nicky Glazer on and you have herd her stand up
for the monologue.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That's what you're gonna get.
Speaker 12 (28:44):
She's not Patton Oswalt, she's not John mulaney.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
She's Nicky Glazer. This is who she is.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Speaking of Pete Davidson, we went and saw that the
youngest Kyle like say young, he's going to be nineteen
here in a few weeks. But to go see the
New Predator bad Lands yesterday, which was great, by the way.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was really really fun movie, but totally got tricked.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
In the middle of the trailers, Pete Davidson pops up
and you know, it starts off and I'm thinking, I'm
watching a trailer. It was an ad for Alexa. I
felt so duped.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I felt so right in the middle of all the
other trailers. And they're spiking in ads, which I'm fine with,
by the way, if this is how movie theaters need
to go and stay alive into the future, I have
no issue with them running ads before.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I can always show up to the movie late. It
doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
It's I logged. I logged time over the weekend with
the nineteen sixty John Sturge's classic The Magnificent Seven.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I don't even know what got it in my head,
but I decided to watch it. So yeah, that was
that was that was time well spent.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'll toss a recommendation out.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Only two episodes have been released so far, but the
new Apple Plus show plurivis by the guy that did
Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad interesting, so I'll throw
that one.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I hear good things about that. I hear good things
about slow horses. So you know, we're waiting for landing
and I'm back.
Speaker 13 (30:07):
Yeah yeah, so so so that's good.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But yeah, John, So you know, it's lots lots going on.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
I've got an interview with a guy named doctor Van Skin, economist,
former Trump Administration OMB official, talking about regulatory cost issues.
You're gonna see a lot more of this in the
coming weeks in terms of the podcast work that I'm doing.
There's listen, there is some really exciting work being done
across the country about dealing with regulatory issues and how
(30:39):
we look at the economic impacts of regulation.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
Stuff coming out again of Virginia and stuff coming out
of Idaho. You know, we're we're really, we're really in
a in a renaissance period when it comes to looking
at regulatory impacts both directly and indirectly on the US economy.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
So stay tuned for those.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Anything specific you want to point people out. I know
you're just doing a bit of a promo there, anything
else before I cut you?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Lit?
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean obviously, yeah, today's interview
with with with Van Skin. But you know, as always,
if you're not following me on on X, because may
be news coming up soon, uh at Andrew Underscore Langer
on X, please check it out.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
And I know it'll be a couple of weeks until
we have a chance to talk again, So have a
good couple of weeks and well we'll talk to you
hopefully before December.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
Yeah, no, no, definitely And and yeah, so with that,
with that score, you know, because you obviously should be
tuned into John Justice in the mornings and all the
rest of the Twin Cities news programming. But you can
always find my podcast at Larry O'Connor O'Connor and company
shows online, So go go check those out.
Speaker 13 (31:46):
Too.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Always great talking with you, and we'll talk to you
again real soon, Buddy, Happy Thanksgiving, talk to John.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Good morning John, Happy Monday. Hey Pa'm getting rid of
the fellow buster. I can't disagree with you more. We
need to keep it. But I think what we need
to do is we need to change the rule on
the filibuster. If you're going to filibuster, get your butt
down there in the Senate well and talk and talk
and talk and talk. It needs to be painful to
(32:15):
whoever tries to filibuster as well, make it work the
way it used to bring it back. Have a great day.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where the filibuster talk goes.
There is an assumption that can be made that, seeing
how Republicans could not get on board heading into everything
that's transpired over the weekend and Sunday with this potential
end to the shutdown, that if and when Democrats were
(32:45):
to get back into power, they would be as reluctant
as Republicans are. That's putting a lot of faith in
Democrats right now, which I don't have, which is why
I was in support and I continue to be in
support now of getting rid of the filibuster and moving
forward with everything that we can possibly do to shore
up our election integrity. But because of where we are
(33:06):
right now with the shutdown and the fact that Republicans
just did not have the votes heading into the weekend,
I think at this point in time, it's probably not
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Let me get back to this though.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
President Donald Trump, as we mentioned, did taunt the Democrats
on Saturday, talking about how they were close to cracking.
His comments came just twenty four hours after Schumer put
forth a proposal to bring an end to the shutdown,
saying that Democrats would come to the table if Republicans
would sign off on a one year extension of the
(33:37):
Obamacare subsidies, a move that would bring the healthcare discussion
back to the forefront just in time for the midterm elections.
You had Senator Mark Wayne Mullen already said the Schumer's
offer was dead on arrival, and we know that it
was based on that procedural vote. Senator John Kennedy on
Fox News gave a slightly more colorful take.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Here's a bit of what he had to say.
Speaker 14 (33:59):
What is your response to Chuck Schumer's proposal here to
keep those ACA benefits going for another year, bipartisan committee
to work on those and reopen the government with the clean.
Speaker 15 (34:10):
Cr Oh, God, please give me patience, because if if
you give me strength, I'm going to need bail money.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Kennedy's the best on a CNN Dana Bash cornered Representative
Jamie Raskin on this issue. This was on Friday. He
was clearly low to answer the question.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
One of the things that he has been talking about
for the last couple of days more intensely is getting
ready to filibuster. That's actually something that you wanted to
do when Joe Biden was president. Thanks for getting through
the Senate's got an area where you agree with him.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We don't need a procedural fix at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So that you wanted the filibuster to be ended when
Biden was president. But now no, you know, I'm not
in the Senate, so I've got no say in that.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
All right, coming up, I'm going to do my best
to break down all of the confusion that took place
regarding snap payments. You had activist judges attempting to force
the Trump administration to move forward with making snap payments,
(35:35):
not giving any indication on where the government was supposed
to go and pull this money from. So because of that,
you had the USDA telling the States, hey, we need
to move forward with making SNAP benefits. Local media outlets
were quick to go and frame this as if it
was Governor Tim Walls announcing November snap payments. And then
(35:58):
you had Justice Brown Jackson come out pausing those orders
by those activist judges, forcing the USA the USDA to
go back to the States and say stop making any
sort of payments, which, of course without the proper context,
Democrats grabbed onto and tried to paint the Trump administration
(36:18):
as being horrible and awful and not wanting people to
have the ability to buy food to eat.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
We'll get some more of your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
From the iHeartRadio app as well via the talkbacks brought
to you by Lyndahl Realty. Coming up on hour two
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