Hour 1 : Election Results

In Hour 1 of the show Jon gives a recap of last nights election results. Then he explains how Rank Choice Voting works.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
In each your j is the ology.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now, after all, the conventional wisdom would tell you that
I am far from the perfect candidate. I am young,
despite my best efforts to grow older.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I am Muslim, I am a democratic socialist, and most
damning of all.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I refuse to apologize for any of this.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
So this is how liberty dies.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's a nurse applause.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Continuing with the Star Wars analogies, if a year ago
was a new hope, this year, this election would be
the Empire strikes back. The question is well, next year,

(01:13):
bring the return of the Jedi. Twin Cities News Talk
AM eleven thirty one three five FM from the six
five to one carpet plus Next Day Install studios. My
name is John Justice, and I'm glad that you were
with this post election show. We have a lot to
discuss this morning on the show today with his hot

(01:34):
take post election results, Representative Tom Emmer. He'll be joining
us right around seven to twenty this morning in studio.
Newly announced scubernatorial candidate Lisa Damath will be in studio
at seven thirty. Looking forward to that as well. And
let's call in after a couple of weeks break we'll
be joining us at eight thirty this morning and bringing

(01:55):
us the latest from Alpha News. So the election results
last night, there's a lot of different takeaways and no
real clear picture into what any of this means moving
forward into next year and the midterm elections governors races.

(02:17):
There is a lot to extrapolate. We do have more
pieces of the puzzle, but again any sort of clear
takeaway simply hasn't emerged. Now what you will hear from
the mainstream media is a narrative of Democrats suite last night.

(02:40):
That being said, that's happening because one, there is some
accuracy to it, just from a technical standpoint, but two,
you know, the media needs to tell a story, and
the story has been up until last night. You know,
GOP victories, Trump victories, despite the best efforts of the
legacy media to go and drag Trump down. So last

(03:03):
night you had you know, these races were more than
likely going to go to Democrats. So the question really
came down to, well, how democrat, how far left leaning
are they going to go? And it was a bit
of a mixed bag. That's not to say there aren't
some distressing things to go and talk about, and we
will get We will get into that, but in terms
of any large takeaway and forecasting of what all this

(03:23):
means heading in the next year, now, there's still going
to be a lot of question marks and an eternity
between now and then. I know a lot of you
are already leaving comments this morning on the iHeartRadio app.
We'll get to those here in just a minute, but
let me do a quick, a quick little rundown just
to get you up to speed on this this morning. So,
in terms of the Minneapolis mayor or mayor's race, it's

(03:47):
still far from over. The ballots continue to be tallied
in consideration of voters second and third choice candidates. So
after a first round to tally, Minneapolis man byb made
mom Jeans Jacob Fry does lead the pack in the
Minneapolis mayoral election, and it possibly is an insurmountable lead

(04:10):
for Omar Fat. I'll be breaking this down coming up
a little bit later on in the hour. I know
there's still a lot of confusion relating to how ranked
choice voting works. Let me just say it up front,
it sucks the reason that we'll even have this conversation
and the fact that we don't know who the mayor
of Minneapolis is is because of how bad ranked choice
voting is. In a bit of a surprise upset, Kahuli

(04:35):
her has been elected to the mayor in Saint Paul
much along the same lines, and even more so. I
haven't seen the numbers yet relating to this, but when
it comes to ranked choice voting in Minneapolis, you can
rank three. In Saint Paul, you can rank as many
as six individuals. So Carter led the first choice of

(04:55):
votes at forty point eight percent, but her surged in
the second round of voting to become the city's first
monk mayor and Saint Paul's first female mayor. I'll get
into the campaign that she ran on. It's ridiculous. Its
platitudes that resonate, though pathetically with voters. No, until I
see the until I see the percentage breakdown, I don't

(05:19):
know whether this rings true. But there is a possibility here,
since it went to a second round of voting and
the second, third, fourth, and fifth choices ended up factoring
in to the Saint Paul mayor's race, that Kahouly Hert
may have won without having the majority, meaning she may
have won without surpassing Carter's initial lead of forty point
eight percent. That's just a bit of a preview of

(05:40):
hy ranked choice voting sucks. So the DFL does retain
control of the Minnesota Senate. Not a surprise on this
After splitting two special election races yesterday, you had the
Democrat Amanda Jaeger winning in District forty seven, while Republican
Michael Holstrom Junior, who was on the show yesterday, he
ended up winning as we expected, in District twenty nine.

(06:03):
The District forty seven win does get the DFL a
thirty four to thirty three majority, which is pretty much
where we were and what we were waiting for and
what everybody expected. Anokah Hennepin voters rejected all excuse me
re elected all three of the incumbents in the politically
divided school board race on Tuesday night. That partisan gridlock
is probably going to continue, most notably Matt Audett, the

(06:27):
conservative who had joined us also yesterday on the show.
He was hoping to expand the board's conservative block. He
won his re election bid. However, the other two candidates failed,
so it's still going to be a bit of a
stalemate in the Anoka Hennepin district, and as I mentioned before,
Democrats swept largely as expected the races in New Jersey, Virginia,

(06:47):
and New York City. Zohran mom Donnie was elected the
mayor of New York City. And now we all get
to watch, assuming that Jacob Frye ends up winning this election,
we will now get to watch New York City and think, oh,
what could have we expected? Here? I've got a lot
of commentary relating relating to this. The New Jersey governor's

(07:11):
race was called for the Democrat Mickey Cheryl Jay Jones,
of course, who fantasized about murdering Republicans, will be Virginia's
next attorney general. And that's one of the ones that
distresses me and one of the pieces of commentary I
want to spend some time with this morning. The victory
for him isn't necessarily surprising, being a Democrat. It is

(07:34):
very concerning, though, that so few Democrats cared about his
horrible rhetoric and the desire of his political opponents to die.
Abigail Spamberger, as expected to did win over win some
seers in the governor's race in Virginia, and I'm just
wondering if the left is going to cry racism in
that race, because they were already making claims that if

(07:56):
Omar Fate doesn't win the mayoral race, it was because
of racism. So I'm just curious if we'll hear that
from Democrats regarding the Virginia governor's race. All right, I
want to hear from you. I'm gonna provide to you
more of my commentary coming up. Sky's not falling. A
lot of this was largely expected. The divide is growing
between left and right, but that provides opportunities for Republicans

(08:21):
if they can frame their arguments and coalesce and not
beat each other to death. Between now and a year
from now, I'll break down how ranked choice of voting works.
You can also email me Justice at iHeartRadio dot com
and we'll get to your comments next Here on Twin
Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three

(08:42):
five FM.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Good morning and I love your show.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Parts Elections Fun. Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty
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We have Devin in the master control booth this morning,
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(09:13):
or if you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, leave us
a talkback Before I get to it, I want to
move through. I'm several of these here in just a moment.
Your talkback's brought to you by Lyndahl Realty in terms
of GOP issues relating to excuse me, takeaways from last night.

(09:34):
Trump not being on the ballot certainly didn't help. But
again I'm not willing to sound the sirens just yet.
These elections are incredibly unique to the region. Democrats, as
I've been talking about, funneled millions upon millions of dollars
in money from outside of these regions to bolster Democrats

(09:56):
chances for Democrat races they were probably going to win anyways,
and it being off cycle and the Republicans having so
many games last year, this went basically the way that
it was supposed to go. An upset in New Jersey
would have been a huge upset, as would have been
any of these races New York City. And we'll talk

(10:17):
about this a little in just a moment. Listen, look
at the lay of the land, Curtis Lee. We didn't
have a chance to win. The head to head between
Mom Donnie and Cuomo was like forty seven to forty
four percent, So it still seems as if Mamdanni would
have won. But Cuomo was a horrible game of the date.

(10:38):
It wasn't like you. And we're talking about Democrats here,
We're not talking about Republicans. I mean Curtis sliwa Is obviously,
but again he'd never had the chance. It also reinforces
what I've believed for a long time, and I'll continue
to push the further left to Trump. The better the
candidates did expect the divides between the parties to grow
to grow further. Now here in Minnesota, it's going to

(11:01):
be a little bit different and interesting because you did
see a lot of for lack of a better way
to describe them, establishment to doing nothing with my fingers,
Democrats that went through their support against for Jacob Fry
against Omar fat and calling them establishment probably is the
completely inappropriate way. I'm just trying to find a way
to differentiate because I don't think that Governor Tim Walls

(11:25):
is all that far removed from the same ideologies as
an Omar Fate. He just knows that here in Minnesota
it's not as electorally viable, especially on a statewide level,
and he also understands how important Minneapolis is. The Fonte
can still pull this out. We'll have to see what

(11:45):
shakes out, but it seems pretty clear that you have
a group of prominent Democrats who are concerned about an
Omar fat winning in Minneapolis. So that does bode well
moving forward. Not all is lost, although for some of you,
I know you're very concerned.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Good morning John. One of the quotes from the movie
The Hunt for Red October was when the commander said
something like, this thing's gonna get out of hand, and
I don't know if we're gonna survive this. Well, you
and I might survive it, but our kids might not.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
They've been saying that for generations too. What a mess
we're in.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Have a great morning.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Along those same lines. Let me go to a friend
of the show, Scott.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Good morning John. I am a pragmatist. I look at
things in a realistic way, and I don't think what
happened yesterday was a good thing. And I just think
that the more that these democrats get in power, the
more free stuff they're gonna give away, and the more
difficult it will be for Republicans to wrestle that away

(13:01):
from the people getting the free stuff. So I think
it was not a good night last night for conservatism period.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't think there was any way. I don't think
there was any change in the electoral outcome that would
have been a positive for conservatism. I mean we're talking
specifically about New York City. I mean, listen, the only
positive would have been for a courteous lee to win,
and that wasn't going to happen. Cuomo's a Democrat, He's

(13:30):
not that far removed from Well, let me rephrase that.
That's not necessarily true. They're both on the left. The
policies of both suck. One just sucks a lot more
than another. But to your point, you're right, people will
go and get a lot of free stuff. But that
could only last for so long. There's another way to

(13:50):
look at it. Yeah, it may be temporarily difficult for
Republicans to win in circumstances wherein you have Democrats socialists
that are promising the moon. I you know, I was
going to play this clip later, but I'll play it
now because it's relevant. To my response to Scott.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Here we will prove that there is no problem too
large for government to solve and no concern too small
for it to care about.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's one of the most terrifying things you can hear
from an elected official, and it's not sustainable. New York
City will get a very quick lesson in policies like that. Maybe,
And I'm really getting into the weeds here and was
planning this for later, but I'll just go there briefly,
Mom Donnie winning mayor, it's bad for New York City.

(14:45):
But you also, again, the specifics on the ground in
New York and in New York City don't necessarily provide
Mom Donnie the opportunity to move full speed ahead with
what he would want to do. He'll be able to
do some damage, but he's also still going to be

(15:07):
able to fall back on the fact that he will
be limited. So the narrative and the belief and the
ideology and the promises will all be there, and people
will be clamoring for all that free stuff, your government
run grocery stores, your free bus rides, the potential for
more criminals on the street if he has his way

(15:28):
and releases the incarcerated. But the governor's race now is
going to be even more important. A last dephonic now
has the opportunity to run against that. You have a
clear choice and a conversation now between now and next
year between conservatism and socialism, and that's going to be

(15:48):
what the conversation is going to be about. But back
to Scott's point again, I don't know if there was
any conservative positive that could be taken away regardless of
the results, apart from massive victories that just were not
in the cards. And at the same time, the policies
of Mondani are unsustainable. They're not going to last forever.
The bottom would drop out now if you could own

(16:09):
more fate in Minneapolis. Along with the Democrat socialists that
ended up retaining their seats, all four of them, and
the fact that you have the majority of the council,
though there is one sort of small victory in that
that vote along with them, you'll see a faster path
to economic ruin and businesses fleeing Minneapolis than what you

(16:32):
would have in New York City. And there's an argument
to be made that maybe that needs to happen. I'm
not saying I agree with that, but there is an
argument to be made that it would be better in
the short term, harder in the short term, but better well,
harder in the short term, better in the long term
if Fate were to win in Minneapolis, because the bottom

(16:54):
would drop out, and then the voters would have a
very clear case in front of them of which way
they want the city to go, because Vonte is just
the Minneapolis Mom Donnie, and he would have more of
a chance to go and push forward on Mom Donnie
type policies than Mom Donnie even does. So you would

(17:17):
see that that economic devastation, you know, on the fast track,
whereas with Minneapolis man byby mirror Mom Jean's Jacob Fry,
it's more of a jog towards economic destruction.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Good morning. Yeah, yes, well the Democrats did it. I
can't believe it, but I did. We didn't get a
small win in words seven, we got a live shaper
taking out Kate Cashman, which was the lesser of two

(17:51):
evil evils. So that is a good thing.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
It's a thing. We'll see how she ends up voting
with the dsa member on the city council. All right,
coming up, we'll get some more of your talkbacks. I
will break down ranked choice voting and how it works
and why it sucks here on Twin Cities News Talk
AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
John, your analysis is correct. Extremely liberal cities and states
voted liberal. That is the extent of the analysis from
yesterday's election.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Got a lot of a lot of debbie downers on
the talkbacks. Don't work on sharing. You guys up this
morning on Twin City's News Talk Glad You're with the
show AM eleven thirty one oh three five FM. From
the six five to one carpet plus Next Day Install
Studios post mortem on yesterday's elections was that gonna smile

(18:56):
on my face? It was a lot to break down here.
I'm not I'm not any more worried than I was
yesterday when I came in and did the show. The
outcome was largely what I expected. It would have been
shocking to see Republicans pull out some major victories in

(19:17):
these blue states, and there's takeaways and concerns moving forward.
But with clarity comes an opportunity to capitalize on what
is happening, craft a better strategy, and win elections. Moving forward.
I'm gonna slip a quick comment in here, and then

(19:39):
we'll break down why rank choice voting sucks, and we'll
get to more of your talkbacks on the iHeartRadio app. Honestly,
I blame you, John what I do. Your show wasn't
so entertaining, I probably wouldn't care nearly as much about politics. Yes, right,
I agree. If I wasn't so entertaining, I wouldn't care
nearly as much of politics or something like that. You're

(20:04):
fascinating to talk to. All right, So what is ranked
choice voting? I'm working off an article here from Fox
nine political science professor law professor David Schultz, the go
to guy when it comes to local media and this stuff.
He describes it this way. Imagine if you went into
a restaurant and they asked restaurant asked you know what's

(20:26):
and you asked the restaurant what's for dinner tonight? And
they say, we have chicken, we have fisher, we have beef.
And you say, my first choice is chicken. And they
come back and they say we're out of chicken. What's
your second choice? You say fish. In some sense that's
ranked choice voting. Yeah, but then you have the other
votes that factor in like, how many you need to

(20:48):
do it in a group, because how many other people
wanted the beef? And were there more people that wanted
beef on the second question than there was on the
first question. I'm not helping it all, am, I I'm
actually making it worse. So Minneapolis was the first state
to use ranked choice voting in two thousand and nine.
So in minneapple As voters can rank up to three candidates,

(21:10):
and Saint Paul voters can rank up to six candidates
the candidate. A candidate needs the majority to win, meeting
more than fifty percent of the vote, So fifty point
one over everybody else. Now, that could happen after a
first choice vote was counted. A candidate could just win outright.

(21:32):
That did not happen last night in either of the
races in Saint Paul or in Minneapolis. In Saint Paul,
Carter won the first ballot, but Kahouli her won resoundingly
on the second ballot. Now, again, I haven't seen the
numbers to know whether or not her total on the
second ballot ended up superseding the percentage that Carter had

(21:56):
on the first ballot. If that happened, that means that
the minority is potentially ended up deciding who the mayor
was going to be, and that's a part of the
reason why this is an issue. So if a candidate
doesn't win on the first ballot, like with what happened
in Minneapolis and Saint Paul, the candidates with the fewest

(22:16):
votes and who mathematically cannot win would be eliminated. Then
it goes to the next round for an instant runoff.
So in round two those ballots votes are transferred over
to their second choice and then the results are added
up again. If a candidate has enough votes to win,
the race is over. If not, the process of elimination

(22:37):
repeats until the candidate wins a majority. Now I do
agree with David Schultz on this. This is an experiment
and it sucks. This is not how we should be
electing candidates. So in the case of Minneapolis, on the
first ballot you had man Baby mayor Fry he got
forty one point seven percent of the total votes, far
from fifty. Fate ended up with about thirty one point

(22:59):
five five percent, and then Davis came in third with
about thirteen point eight percent. So Davis is eliminated. So
if you assume that all of that thirteen point eight
percent then goes to Omar Fate. Then you have Omar
Fat getting about forty four percent over what would presumably

(23:22):
be Fries forty one percent. But it's not that simple
because how did that second ballot rank among everybody? This
is what makes the whole thing a mess. And again,
if Fate were to win on a second or third ballot,
it would mean that the minority in Minneapolis chose the mayor. Now,

(23:47):
there are individuals out there, and I tend to agree
looking at the numbers right now, that it seems to
be a fairly insurmountable lead currently for Omar Fat. So
when you just look at it in terms of statistics,
and Packeroffalo had posted this, so I'm using his post.
The statistical likelihood of Senator Fonte making up over fourteen

(24:10):
thousand votes from a second and third choice of a
voter pool of about thirty eight thousand dollars is near
impossible unless something really, really weird happens, which is always
a possibility. But again, this is why ranked choice voting
is an awful way to conduct elections and why democrats
love it because they can gain the system. You see

(24:33):
Omar Fate included on campaign flyers two other individuals Davis
included and I forgot what the other Yahoo's name was
and told everybody to rank them, you know, one, two,
and three in order to dilute the vote, giving individuals
somewhat of a different option off of Fate if they
weren't warm on Fry, or they were negative on Fry,

(24:55):
but they were concerned about just how far left and
radical Fate and you can go for the other two
candidates that weren't quite as vocal in their Marxism as
Fante is, in hopes that if it goes to a
second ballot, those individuals that were running with Fante, those
votes would end up defaulting. Assuming that's the way people

(25:18):
went and ranked it to Omar Fante. I know it's
an Abbot on Costello routine for those that are familiar
with that example, who's on first, I don't know third base.
As of right now, it looks like Jacob Fry is
going to be the mayor of Minneapolis, So a job

(25:41):
towards economic ruin the best you can say about, you know,
Jacob Fry is you know, on occasion, he's a check
on the radical wing of the Minneapolis City Council. But
it's not like things have improved under his watch. They
just would end up getting much much worse if Omar
Fatte were to get in. And as I mentioned before,

(26:06):
the fact that Walls Clobash are many other prominent dflers
through their support behind Jacob Fry, shows at least that
they believe the Marxist Left is somewhat toxic among a
majority of voters, and the GOP, as I've been saying,
needs to galvanize behind its chosen candidates moving forward, taking

(26:30):
advantage of the lessons that have been learned from last
night's elections.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
The whole country's on a donaldd spiral that it doesn't
matter that will be London in twenty years.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
The whole thing is coming out.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I cannot believe how many old people grew up in
this nation and have prosperous, loving, great.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Lives and they want it worse for their grandchildren.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
It just amazes me.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
That is a that's a fantastic signal that you're getting
from your bunker. I give up. I'm sorry, listen, everyone's
entitled to your opinion. I don't mean to poke too much.
Too much fun of you. I just I cannot, you know, Christian,
I cannot take that dooman gloom of s dance. We

(27:22):
still are an incredibly, we still are a split country
by and large, about half the country and potentially a
little bit more. Cares about the future. Are there concerns
moving forward? Of course there are. Should we continue to
observe and be concerned and push back on those concerns. Absolutely,

(27:44):
But to the point of despair, No, absolutely not. I
guess I'm.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
Getting more and more paranoid. But I believe that people,
some of the people that one, are not working for
this country. They're working for something else larger, and I
find that very scared. And I feel like the elections
last night were just horrendous. It just makes me sick
to my stomach and it actually scares me. But again,

(28:11):
I guess I'm just getting paranoid.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, I would. I would ask this, so like if
you had called the show when we were having a discussion,
if you had called eight four four nine four six
five eight five to five and you and I were
talking about about this, I suppose I would ask what
outcome last night would not have made you paranoid? And

(28:34):
if you would have said victories in New Jersey or
the attorney general's race in Virginia. Okay, I'll give you that,
but that was highly unlikely to happen, regardless of all
the ancil everythings. I mean, these are deeply blue areas
after all, and as I mentioned before, you don't have

(28:55):
Trump on the ballot. The momentum and energy right now
is with Democrats. And as the next talkback mentions, the
shutdown is having an effect. There's a reason why the
Democrats have kept the government shut down, and they benefited
off it. Last night, Trump made this comment over nineties.

(29:15):
Absolutely right. California voters ended up passing the congressional redistricting,
a victory for Newsom. Essentially, this would end up adding
about five House seats in California. It ends up being
a wash because all that ends up doing is canceling
out the gains that were made in the redistricting, the
redistricting victories that took place in Texas. We still have

(29:37):
the Supreme Court that we're waiting on when with the
Voting Rights Act, which could dramatically shift these election outcomes
moving forward, it ends up, like I said, being a wash.
Looking at it nationwide, it isn't surprising Democrat dollars bolstering

(29:58):
these races, the efforts and typically post party gains from
previous elections, the momentum swing is with the opposition party,
and that's what happened here.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Hey, John, I got two takeaways. One, why not just
shut the government down again next year? You're a Democrat,
it worked so well this year. Sympathy media. Oh, and
blame the party in power, because well, they're the ones
in power until they came actually pass a budget. Two California,
how many illegals voted for Prop fifty?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Just curious? California sucks. Yeah, but they have Disneyland and
my family was there, so I can't toss it out completely.
All right, Let's get you a couple of clips here.
This is an interesting one. An analyst on CNN last night.
This is just going to contribute to a lot of
your doom and gloom, but I wanted to share it

(30:59):
with you anyways. From again from CNN, the story.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
For tonight is actually that the Socialist Party is taking
over the Democrat Party. And you know what it was,
Andrew Cuomo, It was Kathy Hochel. Who were the Democrats
that were so afraid of their shadows. So afraid of
the radical left, people like Alexandra Cousi or Cortez can't
move and move and move and to satisfy them. And
now they've been eaten alive. So this is a lesson
for the Democrat Party. They should have fought for their party.

(31:23):
They never fought for their party. They catered to the
radical left. And now we're going to see, by the way,
for people who think that they're voting for affordability. Here
with Mandani, a guy who believes in socialism, we're going
to learn the hard way in New York City what
socialism is. Your taxes will go up, and if you
pay property taxes, you won't be able to afford to
live in your home. And if you guess what you rent,
it's going to be passed on to you in the
form of your rent mandates, look, mandates, fees, regulation, surcharges.

(31:48):
We've seen it in this state, in this city under
one party rule.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
For the last decade.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
It costs money, it gets passed on to you. So
if you think you're going to get a free ride
with Mandani, you're gonna learn the hard way.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And that is all good news for Republicans. This goes
back to my analogy in Minneapolis. Do you want to
jog towards the economic despair and ruin or do you
want to sprint towards it. That's the difference between fry
and fate, and there are arguments to be made either
way over whether or not that's good or bad for
the state in and of itself, for the city of Minneapolis,

(32:26):
Governor Tim Walls, Amy Klobashar Democrats here, they all align
with the same views of these radicals that have taken
over the party. They just want a lot of their
base to not believe that that's the case. They wanted
the Democrat Party to think, at least for some of
the more moderate doing that thing with my fingers that

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they still are sort of a center left, not full
of Marxism. When you and I both know when it
comes to especially Walls, that's just simply not true. So
these victories and the Democrats having the socialists completely take
over their party and now having tangible evidence of that
is good for Republicans as long as Republicans do not
get in their own way. I'm perfectly fine with the

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country having a national conversation between which way do we
want to go capitalism or socialism? And that's what needs
to happen between now and next year. Scott Jennings on
CNN went on a bit of a rant relating to
Mam Donnie's victory in New York City. Scott, Oh, are.

Speaker 11 (33:29):
You saying he didn't He wasn't the unifying voice of
a generation that you predicted mere moments ago?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
He was responding to Mam Donnie's victory speech.

Speaker 11 (33:40):
Acts where was the man that you predicted would not
slice and dice dealer?

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Look, guys.

Speaker 11 (33:45):
He started his speech by quoting Eugene Debs, who ran
for president of the United States five times as the
Socialist Party of America candidate. He repeatedly, I know my socialists.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I keep it close on.

Speaker 11 (34:06):
So here's the thing. He went after. Everybody that he
thinks is a problem. People who own things, people who
have businesses. He said an interesting quote, no problem too
large for government to.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Solve or too small important.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
And so when you think of the world that way,
that every problem, no matter how small or how large,
is something for government to do. Let me just decipher
this for you. Tax increases as far as the eye
can see, which means the people who need to provide
jobs to the young people that you say need jobs
are going to flee.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
As quickly as they possibly can.

Speaker 11 (34:47):
I think this was a divisive speech, and he clearly
sees the world in terms of the people who are
oppressing you and the oppressed, and he said the oppressed
are now in city Hall.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
The good news is, if there is any good news
to take away from that, is that Zohram mom Donnie
is talking a game that won him the election, but
now he's going to have to face the reality of
attempting to go and move forward with what he wants
to do. And that would be really interesting to watch
because a lot of our policies and our loss just
simply prevent the majority of what he is suggesting. And

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he won't have the power in and of himself to
do it on his own either. And this does bode
well for an Elist Stephonic in the governor's race. Again,
a great contrast between what Republicans stand for and where
the Democrat Party is currently. All right, we'll get some
more of your talkbacks coming up. Representative Tom Emmer will

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be joining us at seven twenty in studio at seven
point thirty. Newly announced gubernatorial candidate Lisa Damuth here on
Twin City's News Talk. I'm laving today.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
It's gonna get good.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
It's gonna get really good before it gets bad, and
then it'll get good again. Cheer up, have a great day.