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Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't think he was sitting in his bunker. I
think Eyor was just waiting on who and who was late.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Holy smokes, what a glim outlook.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That is. Sad. It's a mid term election in a
hot year. Democrats were gonna win. Stuff. That's the way
it's gone in history. It's not a big shocker.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's not the end of the world. Clarity from Corey
this morning, responding to a doom and gloom talk back
from last hour, brought to you by Lindahlrealty from the
iHeartRadio app its Twin City's News Talk Hour two post
election from the six to five to one carpet Next
Day Install Studios Representative Tom Emmer coming up in a
(01:04):
little less than twenty minutes from now, and of course
I want to continue to hear from you and the
iHeartRadio app as we work through the election results from
last night. Let's go ahead and just do a quick
recap for those of us just joining the show this
morning to let you know where things are. So, after
a first round, Tally and I went through and broke
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down in the first hour how rank choice voting works.
I don't want to go through that exercise again. So
if you missed it, be sure to go back and
listen to the podcast available on the iHeartRadio app. But
Minneapolis Man Baby may or Mom jeans Jacob Fry does
lead the pack of Minneapolis mayoral candidates. Now, the race
isn't over. Ballots continue to be tallied consideration of voters
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and second and third candidates, But as some have mentioned online,
it's a bit insurmountable at this point in time for
Omar fat to fire by some fourteen thousand votes among
thirty eight thousand to usher him to victory. So thankfully,
depending on your view, a job the economic ruin in
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despair under Jacob Fry or a sprint under Omar Fatte,
looks like we're taking the jog approach. New York City
will be sprinting. We'll get to that again in just
a moment. Here's a little bit of Whatte had to
say last night.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
By the way, this campaign belongs to all of us,
the bus drivers, the downtown workers, the masons and editorial
staff will works too hard for little paid. This city
belongs to the teachers, the nurses, and the kid workers we're.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hired of having to hire, who are tired of.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Having their wages lowered while their companies make record profits.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
By the way, everybody he mentioned in that portion of
his speech last night, if he were to get elected
as mayor, they probably wouldn't have jobs to go to
in a relatively short period of time, as businesses would
flee the city. It's the same thing that's going to
happen in New York City, just off perception alone. You know, mom,
(03:16):
Donnie's going to have to face the fact that he
talked a good game. He's anti Trump. Let's look at
him that way. He's anti Trump, and right now in
the world, anti Trump is going to get you a
lot of attention. And what do you do if you're
anti Trump? You you embrace communism, socialism, you know, you
just whatever is however you want to describe, because he's
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kind of a mashup. He really is the greatest hits
of your far leftist ideologies just rolled into one charismatic
package that ends up standing there behind the podium speaking
to the masses as the anti Trump well prove that
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there is no problem too large for government to and
no concern too small for it to care about. It's
all a lie. Probably one of the most terrifying things
you can hear from a candidate, and he simply will
not have the power. He'll have to face reality. But
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there's the majority of voters. If you watched any of
the interviews with the people in New York City asking
why they were voting for Mom Donnie, they didn't know.
Some of them did. Don't misunderstand. I'm not going to
give everybody a free pass. There's plenty of comedies in
New York City. But it was a historic vote. A
lot of people that typically typically don't come out and
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vote vote in New York selections, and they didn't know
why they were voting for Mom Donnie. They did it
because it was fashionable, because it was trendy, and he's
the anti Trump. Back to Minneapolis and Minnesota and Saint
Paul Kahuli Herr was elected to Saint Paul. Mayer won
that on a second round of voting and ranked choice voting. Again,
(05:01):
I don't know what the tallies are and whether or
not she actually ended up getting a majority of all
the votes, or if she ended up beating Mayor Melvin
Carter with a minority of the votes, but the mayor
elect said she does plan to gather Saint Paul individuals
who have often been left out of the conversation about
the future of the city, saying, one of the biggest
(05:22):
things I've heard from people is that they didn't feel heard.
They didn't feel like they were being brought in as
partners and we'll listen and do this work together.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You're fascinating to talk to.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It means nothing, but pathetically it resonates with voters. What
I've heard is that people don't feel heard. So I'm
gonna hear them, and then I'm gonna listen, and then
we're going to talk about the things that I heard
when I was listening to those voters who said that
they weren't being heard, and then we're going to work
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together with all of the listening that's taken place. Her
joins the city council, comprising seven women, making Saint Paul
a rare large city that is entirely women led. So
there you go. She said. Her vision or hers vision
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for Saint Paul in five or ten years, is a
city government so adept at nuts and bolts that no
one will even know it was ever an issue. So
that if I lay the foundation in groundwork, whoever comes
next and go and build on that what. I don't
know what any of the speeds, and I don't think
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any of the voters do either. It just sounds good.
Ryan Winkler, Socketrench and former House Majority leader, who worked
with her in the Lower Chamber and supported her mayoral candidacies,
that her election should be a wake up call for
Democrats tasked with governing. If we aren't paying attention to
basic needs, then there's no reason to trust to the
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city to take on bigger challenges. If we can't fill potholes,
I don't see how you can solve global warming and poverty. Listen,
it's going to be just more of the same. She
just packaged it differently. She put a different wrapper on
the socialist gift, gave it to the voters, and they
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decided that they want to change. It's just not going
to be changed enough.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What is interesting, by the way, is that because assuming
and again this is the assumption, I guess, we're still
tabulating votes, but it's all been called for Cokahouley her
in Saint Paul, but she leaves an open House seat,
as does the special election in District forty seven with
Amanda Hemingson. Yeger also leaving an open house seat, so
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that actually gives the GOP in the legislature temporarily a
two seat majority. Wonder if Governor Tim Mal's knew that.
Remember when he wanted to call a special session that
might have been taking place like right about now, but
his party might have been down two seats and he
(08:12):
decided not to chee just throwing it out there. Not
the first one to go and say that. By the way,
in Anoka Hennepen, when it comes to the school board races,
pretty much everything stayed the same. The politically divided school
board on Tuesday night will continue. All three incumbents where
we elected. Matt Audett, the one Conservative who was on
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the show yesterday, did win his seat again. So that's
great news. And of course we've been talking about how
the Democrats pretty much took all the races nationwide New York,
New Jersey, Virginia as was expected. Now a lot of
Republicans thinking that the shutdown is about to end, they
might be wrong. I agree with Trump. I think that
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you know, Democrats ended up further bring their victories because
some of what was surprising is some of the margins
were larger than they thought. I think a lot of
it has to do with the shutdown continuing. Got a
couple of clips regarding that. By the way, Caroline Levitt,
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despite all the good news from last night yesterday, heading
into during election day unveiled some pretty scary news for
Chuck A. Schumer. Here, listen to this from the White
House Press Secretary.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Call on your Democrat senators and tell them to side
with President Trump and Republicans to vote to reopen the government.
Our nation's four largest airlines, United, Delta, American, and Southwest
have now all endorsed the Republican nonpartisan clean funding bill
to end the government shutdown. Major unions, collectively representing tens
(09:50):
of thousands of pilots, have also joined the airlines and
calling on Democrats to pass the clean, nonpartisan cr.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But now that the election is over, I don't know,
you know how much concerned Democrats are going to have
because they don't need to worry about any sort of
electoral or lack thereof viability. So we'll see how Democrats
end up responding to the fact that unions are now
turning against this this shutdown as well.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Good morning, John. I think the scariest one for me
is Jay Jones, and they were showing last night his
favorability among women is like super high. Do they not
realize or do they not believe that he made these
threats to kill people and their children. Yeah, like it
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just blows my mind.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
No, listen, I'm right there with you. J Jones is distressing.
J Jones and Mom Donnie winning are both distressing.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I've laid out sort of the scenario relating to Mom Donnie,
and that's not as cut and dry in terms of
what people really truly want. How many of the individuals
voted for him were really knowingly embracing communism that Mom
Donnie spreads and weren't just voting for him because he
was the anti Trump. It is. It is though, Like
(11:12):
I said, it is just stressing the willingness of Dems
to still go and vote for somebody who is so
openly communist. I'm not sounding the alarm bells either. Cuomo
was a damaged candidates lee one never had a chance.
Sephendoff votes probably still wouldn't have been enough. The hypothetical
matchup between Mom Donnie and Cuomo was about forty seven
to forty four percent, And again, Cuomo was a horrible candidate.
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You know, New York City's about to learn a valuable
lesson and mom Donnie's going to find out just how
much he can do. Jay Jones getting back to the
talkbackers point is probably one of the most distressing because
it continues to show how toxic and straight up dangerous
the death in politics culture that Democrats have embraced still permeates.
That's not a good thing by any by any stretch.
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I expect the same divisions and rhetoric to continue and
get worse once we get past the holidays and heavily
into next year's midterm elections. We'll get the thoughts of
Representative Tom Emmer when he joins us next and whether
or not he thinks the shutdown is going to end
anytime soon. And then Lisa Damuth will be joining us
at seven thirty in studio here on Twin City's News
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Talk Am eleven thirty and one O three five FM.
Had a lot of comments this morning, people heading into
their bunkers. I think the future of the country is
coming to an end. I've been doing my best to
try to calm some nerves here on Twin Cities News
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Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM
from the six five to one Carpet plus Next Day
Install Studios newly announced the gubernatorial candidate, Lisa Damon, joining
us just after the bottom of the hour now to
let us know if he thinks this guy is falling
after last night's election results. Representative Tom Emmer, good morning
to what's your what's your hot take? At seven three
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Central Time on this fine Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, I mean no surprise in good morning. By the way, John,
there's no surprise in New York Virginia. That was not
a surprise except for the Attorney general, which I think
some of us just thought that the Democrats were I
don't know, more American behaving than we've seen. Remember half
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the Democrat Party literally who identifies Democrats, said it would
be justified to assassinate President Trump. So why should we
be surprised that they elected a Democrat age who wanted
his political opponent and his family dead. I mean it
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just this is not this is not my grandfather's Democrat
parties anymore. Mom DOMI we knew he was going to win.
They did everything they could to try and wake up
the electric But now we're going to find out. I
saw this morning that this is a you know, this
is about affordability, this is about you know, opportunity. No,
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it's not. It's about a lack of education, John, people
have not educated these people to understand why there is
a lack of affordability and a lack of opportunity. It's
because of all the over reaching of the socialist Democrats
that we've had in this country for years. And now
guess what. Now you're going to go to the next step.
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You're going to elect a Marxist mom DOMI who wants
to control that. He wants government owned grocery stores. I mean,
where is it at, John, And people will wake up.
So I don't think the sky has fallen. I think
you've got to go back to the Winston Churchill quote
never give up, never ever give up. I mean, the
truth is on our side, the policies are on our side,
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and we still Trump is in the White House. They
can try to argue that this is somehow a negative
on his popularity. That's not true. He is still the
strongest leader in the country and the world. Republicans still
control the Senate. In the House, although we see what
Chuck Schumer has done to the Senate by shutting the
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government down now for the thirty sixth day in row.
But look, all is not lost Minneapolis. We may get
the boy toy maare back after all. I mean, we'll
see what happens with that ridiculous rank choice voting. But John,
for everybody who's like, oh my goodness, it's over, you're
talking about half a dozen different places we knew or
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had good reason to believe we knew what the outcomes
we're going to be. And why I remember it's a
year now since seventy seven million people voted for a
new direction. Those people are still there and Republicans, if
we can get this government open, are going to continue
to deliver. I think the future is bright. But last
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night certainly certainly would give you plenty of arguments on
the other side of why it's.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Not well representative Tom Emmer, I think there's a you know,
I think there's a there's a takeaway here, or at
least something positive in as much as you know, once
again Republicans conservatives have the opportunity to compare and contrast.
And if this continues to signal this far left shift
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of the Democrat Party or the fact that they're already there,
then we do have the opportunity to take advantage of
that and continue to move forward on conservative, you know,
fiscally responsible principles capitalism versus socialism. So there is an
opportunity in all of this, and I've heard similar arguments
made that there's some individuals on the right that almost
would have wished that a fate would win just because
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you would see a faster example of how horrible these
policies are. These are opportunities moving forward, and so I
won't say that I'm excited, but we're going to have
to have these battles regardless. So I would rather have
a clear delineation as possible between left and right of
which to argue the merits of the party that we
belong to.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Very well, said John, That's where I was trying to go.
I didn't do it as eloquently as you when I
was talking about the report. It's about affordability, Okay, Why
is everything unaffordable? When they report that healthcare is impossible,
we can't pay for it? You know, why could you
passed Obamacare? You completely upended the system and you distorted
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the marketplace so that you basically benefited your insurers at
the expense of the American citizens, and choice and competition
is where it's at. So you said it better. The
only thing I would change, which I think all of
us need to start changing, because the way the young
people have been educated, they don't know what capitalism is.
(17:52):
A point thought that that has a bad connotation. We
need to use the term free enterprise all the time.
It is about free enterprise versus Marxism and socialism. That's
literally what it is. I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
We're a little short on time. I had Lisa Damuth,
a Minnesota House speaker, joining me in studio here in
just a moment. I do want to get your thoughts though,
relating to the shutdown. We're past the election, some expectation
the Democrats would vote to reopen it based off of
the election results last night. Does that matter your expectation
on how much longer the shutdown is going to continue?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah? Remember I told you about that violent left that
I know some of my friends in Minnesota are like you,
I am not a terrorist. You keep referring to the
terrorist wing of the party. Well, then, just about the
third of year party that identifies with a terrorist organization
called hamas right, this group that was marching in the
on the mall calling for the assassination of President Trump
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and all this disgusting stuff. Chuck Schumer and the other
leaders here in Washington on the left are so afraid
of them, John, they could not open the government before
yesterday because if they had, that crew would have turned
on them, and they were afraid that they may not
show up at the polls. So now they have waited
for the election to pass, they won in the places
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that they expected to win, they will declare victory. I
expect now that they can also argue, we fought harder
than anybody in the history by shutting down this a
record number of days, thirty six thirty seven days. But
these evil Republicans are hurting Americans, and we're Democrats to
the rescue. And then they're left wing biased media like
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the start for you to try to echo that message.
The good news is, John, Americans are a lot smarter
than these political elites given credit for. I think the
future is bright for us for the very reason that
you just described this morning. It is about free enterprise
versus government controlled. Whatever they're going to tell you what
you can do, who you can do it with where
you can do it and how you can do it.
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You know what, that is not going to sit well
with the vast majority of Americans. It's going to be
a great policy debate going forward and we're going to
win it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Representative Memor, thank you for the time this morning. Always
great speaking with you, and hopefully we can do it
again next week, my friend, enjoy the frost, Josh all right.
Coming up, newly announced gubernatorial candidate Lisa Daymonth will be
joining me in a studio lots to discuss about her campaign. Also,
a performance audit from the Office of Legislative Auditor found
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that Governor Tim Walls's office failed to adequately follow policies
relating to receipts, inventory in payroll. I know right talking.
We'll get Lisa Damonth's thoughts coming up when she joins
us next here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven
thirty one oh three five FM, Twin City's News Talk. Hey,
(20:49):
I'm eleven thirty one oh three five FM from the
sixty five to one carpet Next Day Install Studios, John Justice.
I am very pleased to welcome into the studio. Minnesota
House Speaker newly announced to gubernatorial candidate Lisa Damuth. Good
morning on this post election Wednesday. How you doing good?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Early morning, John.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I'm doing Wow, I'm doing wow? What are your what
sort of your Let's just start here, since we've been
talking about the election results and again off your election.
A lot of these races kind of went the way
that we expected, a lot of different angles in terms
of the candidates and what they stand for. But I'm
curious to sort of hear your instinctive reaction, you know,
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including what's taking place here in Minneapolis and Saint Paul.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
So we know that we're looking at a confirmed word
a little bit later in Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
We don't know that one for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
The change in Saint Paul, though, was a little bit surprising.
I actually came into the legislature with Representative her and
knowing that she had worked under the now outgoing Mayor Carter.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I was a little bit surprised by that.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But is there any have you done much thought is
to why that change took place. It seems like a
lot of rebranding. I don't see a lot of separation
in terms of policy between between Carter and her, except
that this would certainly show that the people in Saint
Paul wanted to have some sort of change, But any
you know, any sort of takeaway right now, less than
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twenty four hours from her win.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
I don't think big over big changes right now. I
kind of agree with where you're at. You know, is
there going to be big changes. It'll be interesting to
see what her platform is, what she wants to change.
The city of Saint Paul has been in decline.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
We know that.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
You know, the downtown area is quite empty, and there's
there's shutdowns going on in different buildings across the city.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
But it'll be interesting to watch how she comes into
that office.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
How important would your focus be on on the Twin
Cities themselves if you were to win the governor's race.
You know, how important are the Twin Cities to the
state as a as a whole. I mean, there's not
a lot of power from the governor standpoint to over
you know what can be done. But I'm just curious
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to get your perspective on, you know, where those cities
need to go to help benefit the state as a whole.
As governor.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
I'm looking in my run for governor and then to
serve the state of Minnesota equally across the entire state.
And what that has to take into consideration is the
fact that each part of our state has its own uniqueness.
So when you think of our larger cities, I want
them to succeed. They have to be successful in the
way that they're governed, in their economic they need to
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draw in both housing and businesses. We want that to
be successful in our largest cities, because then our state
is successful. But I also want our very smallest communities,
our townships, and our very smallest cities to have what
they need to provide for their residents too. So I
really look at our state in the vast difference that
it is the different regions of it. You know, I
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think of the north shore, the mining areas. I think
of the agriculture out where I'm from. There's great agriculture
in that area, the southern parts of the states. We
have to be successful for everyone in Minnesota. John, what
that is is that is not a one size fits all.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Lisa Damuth, house speaker running for governor, joins me in studio.
So let's go back to the reason why you're here.
Somewhat of a crowded field of announced candidates already and
you enter into the race this week. What ultimately led
to this decision.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
I've been serving as Speaker of the House just this year,
so it's interesting, and you know, you and your listeners
definitely are going to remember the year in the legislature
twenty three and twenty four when it was full one
party Democrat control. There were changes made to our state.
Remember the eighteen billion dollar, eighteen billion dollars surplus that
we had had, and I'll say that it didn't go
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back to the taxpayers. Every one of us had our
taxes and fees raised because the Democrats raised our state
budget another thirty eight person another ten billion dollars. At
the time, House Republicans and I was leading as minority leader.
We were in the minority, didn't have the votes to
change anything, but we had concerns just on the budget
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itself going forward, saying this was not sustainable. And then
we watched the pushing of other social issues come through
so heavy handed with Democrats, and they really changed the
way our state was.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Then in the twenty four election, when House Republicans, we
were the only ones on the ballot and the legislature,
House Republicans took that tie and before you know, whether
you're in sports or other things, people maybe not have
realized how important a tie actually is.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
But look what we got done.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
We delivered the largest spending reduction from Buyennium to Buyennium
of five billion dollars. We protected our non public schools.
We were able to end the taxpayer funded health insurance
free illegal immigrants.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
There were great things that were done in just a tie.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
So looking at what we could do with that one
half of one third of state government, I thought, you
know what, it's time for me to step up and
serve my state in the area as governor. I've been
always serving. That's the reason I've looked at this, serving
the school on the school board, serving in the legislature,
and now I want to serve as governor of the
state of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
How do you, could, you know, compare yourself or contrast
with the other candidates that have announced. Was there something
that was missing where you felt like, Okay, I need
to step up and run as well that the other individuals,
perhaps you know, wouldn't provide. I'm just you know, again,
it's somewhat of a crowded field that I want to
get into. There's already been a little bit of pushback
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since you're announcing, but you know yourself compared to the
other candidates, why still step into the ring.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
There's an excellent slate of candidates that have already stepped up,
and so I won't say anything disparaging against them.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
They're excellent individuals.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
And I think the thing that we have in common
as all of us is we want to defeat Tim
Walls and the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That is our laser focused goal.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
What I bring that is different is leadership, serving as speaker,
serving as Minority leader, but also being the only one
of the candidates that has actually had to negotiate with
Governor Walls, sit across the table and get things done
for the state of Minnesota. I bring that different perspective
and that experience that will lend to both the campaign
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but specifically for governing and leading our state.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
How do you respond to the criticism from your own
side and the attempts to sort of attach you to
Walls in raising taxes or making the streets unsafe as
some of the claims have been put forward.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Have said.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
That statement was brought forward by my colleague Kristen Robbins,
and I definitely consider her a friend. We came into
the legislature together in twenty nineteen. We officed right next
to each other. And what I would say about some
of those claims in there is, again, we are one
half of one third of state government, and what we
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were able to negotiate and delay for Minnesotan's had to
be bipartisan because of the tie, Republicans couldn't go in
and just pass whatever we wanted. At the very end,
all of that bipartisan work started from the very first
committee meeting because we had co chairs in every committee
that had to be worked together Democrats and Republicans. So
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it took bipartisan votes from the very first bill that
moved from the first committee all the way through until
things were passed off the House floor.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
That was the work that was done.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
I had committed to protecting Minnesota families from tax increases
and that's what we were able to deliver on.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
So with the elections that just took place overnight, not
a lot of surprises. You know, these were Democrat areas.
There is you know, commentary over the candidates what they
stand for on the left, but they pretty much ended
up coming out the way that people expected. The only
the only cause of concern in my view is when
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you look at some of the distant in terms of
the results, where some of the victories were wider than
what people had expected. Truth of the matter is Trump
wasn't on the ballot. A majority of these candidates that
we're running in the elections from overnight, we're putting Trump
on the ballot. I mean, Mom, Donnie was being incredibly
outspoken about it. It's something that Governor Tim Walls tends
to do. Heading into next year's election, Trump's not going
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to be on the ballot again. So I'm very much
of the opinion that, you know, the GOP is going
to have to figure out a way to go counter that.
And what's interesting to me is, I know you mentioned
Trump in your announcement. Governor Tim Wallas has been incredibly
anti Trump. We had the Star Tribune yesterday immediately trying
to tie you to Trump as if it's a negative.
So when we're looking at this election for the next year,
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Trump not being on the ballot and still is going
to be a major focal point, how do you go
and handle that in terms of your campaign.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
My campaign is focused on Minnesota and Minnesotan's and wanting
to do the best that.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I can for our state.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
We have to have a stronger economy, and that includes
making Minnesota a business friendly state where businesses can thrive,
they can stay, and that we can't continue to put
on burdensome mandates on our businesses that choose that make
them choose other.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
States or to close whatever that might be.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
The other thing that I'm looking at is families have
to be able to afford their lives. John, we talked
about that increase in the state budget. Even though I
was able to deliver a reduction in spending, we are
one of the highest taxed states here for both individuals
and corporations.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
We have to look back, look at.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Scaling back some of that state budget, and then education.
Our kids cannot read at grade level. Only half of
them can. Some schools are doing excellent and have excellent
results for their students, but not all schools. Yet we're
pouring state money in in ways that isn't making it's
not making the outcomes any better. So when I think
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of the things that I have and the hope and
vision that I have for Minnesota, that's what I can
bring forward in my race for governor. President Trump has
definitely delivered on his campaign promises. Securing our borders and
making sure that our states are safer because.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Of that is something that.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
He said and he has delivered on and will continue
to do so.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
He is brokering peace deals.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
He is a solid president that is doing the work
for the United States and also being respected really across.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
The world for the work that he's doing.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
And so in having him as part of the conversation,
when I've announced my run for governor, i will be
seeking that endorsement, but I'm really laser focused on Minnesota
and what my vision is and how to achieve it.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Talking with a House speaker Lisa Damuth of course running
for governor as well. How much I'm trying to figure
out how I want to phrase this. I've been talking
about this quest a bit on the show. The political
landscape right now is really bizarre, like I've never seen
anything like this before. The divisions have never been more
clear between left and right right now, to the point
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where I've questioned a lot on the show how much
the issues are even going to matter. I'm somewhat of
the opinion that we need to make sure that we
get as many you know, Republicans voting as possible, and
even more so in the upcoming election, because I just
don't know how much the issues are going to matter.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You mentioned a lot of those issues, and I'm curious
your perspective on that. When you're out campaigning and you're
talking with Republican voters or you're talking with Democrat voters,
do you think that this election cycle will still be
hinging on the issues or is it more so going
to be just getting the number of Republicans out voting
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going to be the deciding factor. I mean, the issue
is still going to be in play like they have
been in years past.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Can I choose all of the above go for?
Speaker 7 (33:02):
And the reason is I do think the issues matter,
And the reason behind that, John is the things you know,
you do a great job of diving deep into the
issues and really looking at what is happening to our state,
the decisions that are being made. Not everyone is always
as up on the current events of what's happening. And
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so I think, finally, as we've been talking about fraud
for years in the House, trying to draw attention to that,
we are finally getting the attention of Minnesotan's across the
state that oh there really is fraud, almost a billion
dollars of fraud. That's not new to you and your
listeners and me working in the legislature, but it's finally
gaining that attention. So the issues that are top of mind.
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It's our job as candidates legislators. The media needs to
do and I'm talking broadly, the media needs to do
a better job of reporting on what is happening and
so is shoes are starting to raise to the top.
But absolutely Republicans have to show up. We cannot have
Republicans sitting back thinking, Okay, well we're good with President
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Trump in office, so we'll set this one out.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
We can't have that anymore. There's too much at risk.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
So there was a new story that came out. I'll
work off the version here from Alpha News. A performance
audit from the Office of Legislative Auditor found the Governor
Tim Walls and his office failed to adequately follow policies
relating to receipts, inventory, and payroll. Sorry, I just chuckle
when I read this. I go like it's something else.
The OLAS report examined thirty months of operations from July
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of twenty two through December of twenty four. The auditors
found that Walls's office did not adequately follow policies relating
to property management receipt management. They identified numerous vendor problems,
found the office lacked proper documentation to support various employees
and reimbursement, and said the office had payroll issues. So
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the OLA has made recommendations that Walls has agreed. Walls
has said that they've resolved all eleven of the twelve issues.
First question I have with this is do you take
this story and what the OLA found and do you
overlay it with the fraud or is this something is
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this something separate from that? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Accountability starts at the top.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
That means in a company, your CEO has to make
sure that there's accountability and that is how they lead
the rest of the organization. We were talking about a
governor that at the top has these many findings against
him on some of the basics of running a business
or running a state.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Now, can he do that all on his own?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
No?
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Has he built the right team around him to make
sure all the boxes are checked and they're just being
responsible with state tax dollars? Clearly, no but when we
have fraud in multiple agencies that has gone unaccounted for,
unchecked by our governor, I am not surprised. I am
very disappointed, but I am not surprised that these are
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the findings in his office and it's under one hundred employees.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm getting a little I'm getting a little nuanced here.
So I just want to throw that out there because
you may or may not know the dynamics of it.
But the one thing that stuck around was the OLA
makes these recommendations on the on the findings that were flagged.
Should there be a different means of accountability apart from
just recommendations. I mean, I assume maybe that's just the
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only thing that the Office of Legislative Auditor can do,
but I you know, I see things like this in
proper payments receipts and I just kind of go and
all the OLA is able to do is put forward recommendations,
should there be more there or where does the accountability
you need to step in?
Speaker 7 (36:48):
So the OLA makes those recommendations, and when we've seen
different reports from the o LA, there are recommendations, but
as we've seen in other agencies, those recommendations have not
been implemented minted.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
By the legislature.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
So the legislature needs to take the recommendations, hold the
agencies and in this case, the Governor's office accountable, and
have that conversation saying, these are the recommendations.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Have you put those into place or have you changed
the way you do things in a way that might
even be better.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
If you haven't put put them into place, why not
and what are you going to do? And so I
think it's going to be the legislature's job. We are
working on the report that came out to make sure
that when we return on February seventeenth, we will address this.
You know, we can address it with you and in
the media right now and talk about it, but we
need some changes within there. There has to be at
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a basis of internal controls that prevent things like this. Again, John,
this is in the Governor's office happening, and multiple areas
of fraud in multiple agencies under his seven years of leadership.
It's time for him to be done with his time
as governor here in the state of Minnesota so we
can move on and really get our state back on
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the right track.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Let's wrap on this talking with a House Speaker Lisa
Damuth running for governor. We were in the middle of
talking about fraud, and you know, there's so many other
issues that we could end up spending another hour on,
whether it's the lack of the special session and what
Walls wanted to do, but let's stick to fraud for
just a moment. There's so many layers that's been revealed
in this, you know, estimated six billion dollars worth. Which
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part of this is most I'm assuming it's all concerning,
So I'm making that assumption. I think I'm okay the
way you're shaking your head at me, yes, So which
aspect of it is most concerning? The way that these
programs were designed, or the fact that when the fraud
gets discovered within DHS there seems to be this lack
of concern that relates to the check still being written.
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I mean, again, there's a lot of layers here and
a lot of distressing aspects. But I'm curious what's most
distressing for you with what has been revealed with the
fraud here in Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
It's all distressing, and we're not going to have them
magic wand that we can just kind of flip a
switch and just change it all immediately, and we recognize that.
But where there's been blocking of the bill for the OIG.
So if you remember back into the legislative session, and
OIG would have been that independent agency that would have
overseen the agencies to make sure fraud was not going
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to continue. When we're prosecuting fraud, that's great and I'm
glad we're doing it, but we're not doing anything to
prevent it in the first place. The disappointing piece of
not getting that OIG bill through. The governor at his
state of the state had said that he would, you know,
you pass a bill, put it on my desk, I'll
sign it. He did not do that because we couldn't
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get Democrats in the House to pass the bill, even
though it was bipartisan in the Senate. So the fraud
in Minnesota has been now it's acknowledged thanks to the
US Attorney's Office and really drawing attention to it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
But it's multiple layers.
Speaker 7 (39:55):
It's first how some of the programs were created, but
it's also the lack of oversight as those dollars were
going out. So it's both ways, and you can try
to decide which is going to be the best way
to attack that.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
It is going to be both.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
We have to look at how the programs were created
and why and are they needed. Put in better checks
and balances there, but maybe getting rid of some of
those programs and covering people in a way that would
be a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
We'll go just a little long on here, and I
will ask one more question. If you're elected as governor,
Lisa Damoth, what's the first thing you do relating to
the fraud issue.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Fraud is unacceptable here in the state of Minnesota. There
will be internal when where we're going to work on
policies coming forward as we go through, but we've got
to have policies that would support ending fraud and not
just trying to prosecute it.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
At the end, and people want to find out more
about your campaign, where do they head Lisa Damuth dot com,
thank you so much for coming to studio this morning.
I appreciate it. Thank you, especially on this post election day,
so I know you got to busy, a busy week
and a busy time ahead of you. I appreciate you
taking some time out this morning.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
John all right, coming up in hour three, Liz Colin
from alfnoons we'll be joining us, so she'll be on
right around eight thirty this morning. I do want to
go back to what Trump had said regarding Snap funds
and speaking of Snap, is there another potential fraud story
emerging in Snap benefits here in Minnesota. I'll give you
some details next coming up on Twin Cities News Talking
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