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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, well, we're waiting for our guests to call back.
This actually provides an interesting opportunity Twin Cities News Talk
Hour three on a Freedom Friday. I'm so happy to
have the guests in studio from the American Experiment podcast.
As we go around the room, we have Grace Keating,
Catherine Johnson, we have businessmen and RNC committeemen Ak Kamara.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're gonna talk more about the filibuster.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I have some other off the beaten path stories relating
to this that we will get into. And of course,
on a Freedom Friday, we do take your on and
off topic comments all morning long from the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Let's go to the talkbacks. What do you say, guys, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Good morning, this is show from Dean Prarie. First of all,
one of these two broads add to your show, add nothing.
They should be home baking cutchies. And again, I thought
you said a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Ago they did.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Democrats that all the power, all the time. Republicans can
just end phil a bus to bust it up in it.
Just remember, you guys will be in powerful long that sure,
it's time you guys, will be out of power, have
a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So, because what we're gonna do, and this is really unfair,
I'm gonna let you guys do for a moment.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Cookies.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, why don't you guys head to the breaker and
make some cookies. Well, we talked to our guests this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Listen. He did that intentionally to try to go and
get a rise out of you guys. I just I'm
not risen.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I will say I'm honored baking cookies.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I've never been called a broad before. This is a
big day for you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Maybe you should add it to the podcast title next week,
just to make Phil happy. You can do that, all right,
So we'll get back to this coming up. I'm sure
we'll get plenty of comments that are rolling and regarding
that here on the iHeart Radio app. So while those
come in, I'm very pleased to go and welcome to
the show. Gold Star dad of Darren Taylor Hoover. It
(01:53):
was one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abby Gate.
We are joined by gold Star Father Darren Hoover. Good morning, Aaron.
Thank you so much for joining the show this morning.
It really is an honor to to speak with you.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Good morning, sir, and I definitely appreciate the opportunity. I'll
talk about my son and what happened any day of
the week.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So first off, I know you're gonna you're here in
uh Minnesota for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What brings you here to the state?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, a friend of mine by the name of Lewis
Uh he's uh, he's the one with that tribute jeep
on Facebook, beautiful jeep with all the names of the
fallen from Iraq and Afghanistan, and and that brought me
up here, uh for the VFW Marine Corps bal Uh
(02:45):
here in Prior Lake and uh yeah, So it's it's
gonna be a good time tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's talk about your son, when that when that happened,
When that event happened, I remember, I think like many
of us, did you know here on the air when
that entire tragedy unfolded. You know, it hit a lot
of us, hit a lot of his hard continues to do.
So I can only imagine what it must have been
(03:13):
like for you and your and your wife. I know
there's a foundation in your son's name. We can certainly
talk about that as well. But let's just start off
talk a little bit about your son, if if, if
my information is correct, your son Taylor had wanted to
join the Marine Corps at a very early.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Age, right correct, you know, growing up, his mom relates
the story better than I do. Of course she remember
better than I do. But you know, growing up he
those little green plastic Uh. He didn't call him army man.
He called the Marines and was always playing with those,
(03:55):
you know, grew up he was always a little bit bigger, taller,
you know, whiter than than a lot of his friends.
And uh played football from the age of eight and
again was still one of the bigger ones, you know,
so we had to play the line. But just a
(04:17):
just an awesome kid. I mean, you know, if you
needed a hand up, he was there if you if
you needed anything, he was there. You know, we'd be at,
for instance, at the store and he'd struck up a
conversation with anybody. He didn't care. That's just the type
(04:38):
of kid that he was, you know. And family came
first his His mama and his sisters were were his
whole wife and he lived his life that way. You know.
We were religious and he was he was a part
(04:59):
of that as well. Just an honorable, good good young man.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I know that he was ultimately promoted to staff sergeant
esix by the Marine Corps. Was stationed on board a
vessel in the Strait of Ormuz in twenty twenty one,
prior to being called up to deploy to Afghanistan. Did
you have when did you find out that he would
be going to Ta Cobble And I'm curious, and I'm
(05:27):
curious again talking with gold Star father Darren Hoover, whose
son Taylor was killed at Abbey Gate along with those
those twelve others. Were you aware that he was being
positioned over in Afghanistan? Do you do you recall when
you when you found out and what were your what
were your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, he was actually on the chesty poller out in
the strait, gathering intel with his with his guys, and
you know, we thought, okay, he's there. You know, the
the the stuff in Cobble started going off and I
(06:09):
get a sorry, a cryptic text from him saying, Dad,
I can't tell you where I'm going. Just watch the
news and you'll figure it out. Yeah, but just understand
that I'm with a bunch of kick ass guys and
I'll be okay. And a couple of days later, he was.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He was in cabble, I was reviewing a bit of
what it had transpired leading up to that date on
August twenty sixth. Was there any way that, you know,
you and your and your wife could could possibly be
prepared for what transpired after?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You know, afterwards?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, obviously, your son serving in the military, there's
always a risk involved. But you know, is there any
way that you could be prepared for what ended up
ultimately taking place on that horrific and tragic day.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
No, there's no way obviously, you know, like you said,
he's in the military, so that that's always in the
back of your mind. You know that that, hey, something
could happen, and that's always stuck in the back of
your mind. But you know, Taylor, Taylor had his head
on his shoulders. I mean, good gosh, ka'd He'd been
(07:30):
in the Marine Corps eleven years. This was his third
trip to Afghanistan, you know, and and we thought, nah,
it can't happen. You know. He'd call his mom every
day and tell her how messed up things were over there,
(07:51):
that he'd never seen anything worse than what he was
dealing with, but that he was okay, he was okay,
everything was going good. He is trying to keep these guys,
you know, on top of things and morale up and
and you know, everything else. And it just that day hit.
(08:12):
And of course we're I'm getting I'm heading to work
two hours out of town, two and a half hours
out of town, and you know, his mom lives in
Missouri now, and we're talking back and forth. We're I'm
listening to the news, I'm as I'm driving up. I've
(08:34):
been watching a little bit of it before I left,
And you know, we're talking back and forth. And the
first time, the first time that we talked, she was
she knew something was going on. She knew she'd been crying.
(08:59):
She was trying on the phone with me, you know,
and I'm trying to console her, being you know, being
a She's trying to console her, and she's talking and crying.
We said a couple of prayers together, and we hung up.
(09:20):
About thirty forty five minutes later, she called back crying again.
And I don't feel good about this. There, I don't
feel good about this. Something's happened. He's not answering his phone,
he's not answering his texts, nothing. You know, in the
(09:42):
back of my mind, I'm still trying to say, no, no,
it's not him, it can't be him. Sure, he's too
he's too quick of a kid, he's too smart, he's
been here before. And we proceeded to both cry together,
(10:02):
prayed a couple more prayers, and then hung up. And
it wasn't a couple hours later that my dad called me.
And i'd been I was staying with them and then
working during the week and going back home on the weekends.
(10:25):
And You've got to understand something. My dad never cries.
I've seen the man cry maybe twice in my entire life.
And I get a phone call from him and he's crying,
and he said, there's two marines standing at her door.
(10:47):
Right then there I knew exactly what it was. My
numbers had continued to tick up, and yep, it wound
up being he was one of them.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We're speaking with a gold star father, Darren Hoover Son Taylor,
one of the thirteen Yuros killed a heroes killed at
Abby Gate. Do you you know it's been three years,
which really isn't isn't isn't that long? And you know, I,
you know, I think I speak for for most everybody
listening that you know, we can't forget what transpired in
(11:22):
this in this event and the heroes like your son
that gave the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Do you show up the politics.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Aside on all of this in the in the wake
of of what had of what had transpired, you know, obviously,
you know a lot has been said about why we
were there and what took place that led to the.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Events on on August twenty six. I'm just I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Curious from your from your perspective now, with the focus
obviously on his memorial and the scholarships, and we'll talk
about that in just a moment, do you push the
politics aside or is that still combined with the with
grief that that you and your family indoor.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
No, it's it's very much at the forefront. There's a
there's a lot of anger and angst coming from me.
There are we've got what's called the abbey Gate Coalition,
and we're seven of the thirteen families that are together.
We've been to Washington, d c. Testified before Congress the
(12:28):
Housebold and Affairs Committee. We went to California with Congressman
Isau testified there at the roundtable. You know, we've been
with the president, the vice president of the current administration,
not the last one. We actually sat down with General
(12:52):
Millie too at one point during all this when when
we were back in d C. For the kids to
receive the Congressional Gold Medal in their honor. But no
politics is We've been petitioning Congress. There's a few things
(13:12):
that we would like to see changed, and you know, there's,
like I said, there's still a lot of anger and
bitterness towards the last administration, towards the DoD, towards the
State Department, because things didn't need to happen the way
(13:33):
that they did. And it was because of those decisions
made or not made that we know more and more
and more about as we as we go along, that
those decisions led to exactly what happened, the chaos and
the crap that happened there for those two weeks leading
up to that faithful day.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Let's wrap on this and again talking with gold Star
Father Darren Hoover, thank you so much for spending time
with us this morning and the staff Sergeant Darren Taylor
Hoover Memorial. I want to talk a bit about what
is done through this memorial to your son, Darren.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Yeah. Absolutely. Shortly after Taylor was killed, his mom started
the foundation and it is the Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover Memorial,
and through that we receive you know, uh, donations, and
(14:35):
those donations go to scholarships for kids just getting out
of high school, maybe been out a here trying to
figure out, you know, what's going on. But those that
contribute to society, you know, through honor, courage, commitment, the
(14:55):
tenants of the Marine Corps, and they can be awarded
a scholarship to a you know, uh, normal college or
to a trade school. And those have been those have
been awesome to watch. And then my my daughter and
(15:19):
son in law started up another branch from the from
the foundation still a part of it. Donations go to
both the scholarships, and we have now started doing uh
service dogs for worthy veterans, and so far we've given
(15:43):
away I believe we just gave away number six or
number seven. So the dogs get trained there, they're paid
for and trained in Missouri and then send out or
driven out to the very military members throughout the country. Uh.
(16:04):
The latest one being we went to Boise, Idaho, and
there was a veteran that had come in from I
believe Washington or Oregon and met us there and so
that just to see the transformation, you know, not only
with the dog, but to see that initial meet up
(16:26):
with the veteran and the dog and that shee that
come to a fruition and it's just it's an awesome
thing to behold. You know. I was, I was a
canine handler in my before I retired as a as
a police officer. So my daughters and my son and
obviously their mama grew up during that time when I had,
(16:50):
you know, a couple of canines, and so that was
near and dear to my daughter's heart, and that's why
that part of it was also started.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So well.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Darren Hoover again, gold star dad of Darren Taylor Hoover,
one of the thirteen heroes killed at Abbygate. Thank you,
We thank your son for the service as well giving
the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Thank you for the time this morning.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We actually heard via email from the owner of the
Tribute to Jeep and I know that you will be
enjoying your time here in Minnesota, and thank you so
much for spending time with us this morning and talking
about your son. We greatly appreciate it. I know the
listeners do as well. And again, I hope you enjoy
your time here in the state with what you're involved
(17:38):
in this weekend, and thank you for joining us on
the show this morning.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I appreciate it very much, sir. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
This is so from Ihan Prarie.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
First of all, one of these two broads add to
your show to add methan. They should be on Bacon, Curtis.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I just wanted to get everybody back up to speed
full of the show. Phil left that talk back prior
to the conversation that we had, and it was such
an honor to talk with a gold star father, Darren Hoover.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
If you missed that, you shouldn't check out. The podcast be.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Available on the iHeartRadio app once the show is finished.
This morning in studio Ak Kamara, RNC committeemen and business owner.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Good morning, and the at least one thing that these
two ladies add is a very wonderful aroma. In this studio.
Women smell good, and I, as a headosexual male, like
the smell of women. So yeah, shout out to good
smelling women.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I don't even need to, I don't it's true, and
I'm glad you you know, I wasn't gonna have to
say it, but such what happened.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Ak left.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He comes back, He's like that studio smells great, sounds great.
First I thought it was me because I put some
product in.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The and then he that was wrong, and then he
goes it smells like women like, you're right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't even need to argue what you two bring
to the show. Okay, that being said, there are many
listeners who wanted to come to your defense. Did you guys,
by the way, do you guys have any comments for film.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Wow response if he wants a real response as to
why we do the podcast. We do things like this,
which is that women, especially in the gen Z demographic
and millennials to some degree, are not on our side.
They're in huge numbers voting for people like Zo ran Mom, Donnie.
I ran into it all the time in college to
(19:37):
these people who are completely misled by things like feminism
and these really toxic ideologies that exist on the left,
and there's a place where they need to hear from
people that are in their own demographic preaching conservative views.
I think that's extremely important and crucial to saving our
(19:59):
country and saving these women from those toxic ideologies like feminism.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That only hurt them.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
So hopefully we can provide a voice that is going
to help guide them to a better light.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
To the promised Land.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
The Promised Land anamn. My less eloquent response would be
I've also never had the get back in the kitchen
line used on me.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So it's a big day wrapping up.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
A lot of points, especially from the left.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I know it's always because they larp.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
They don't actually care about these things that they pretend
to care about. They only do it for power. At
the end of the day, I think that the things
that you two ladies add to the show is just
a different perspective, Like isn't that something that we actually
want to strive for. Is different people bring different perspectives,
like in actual diversity of the way that life happens
to you, But we have the same general organizing principle.
(20:52):
So yeah, Phil Man, you need to do better. Brother,
You're going to be excised from everything that is left
of center.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, and as is mount Rich just posting on x
and may smell great, So.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yes, and I mean that's kind of the most important.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, it's not going for truth be told, the only
reason why I invite him in on today.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And the cookies be bringing, well I'm not allowed Yeah,
and the cookies too, but I'm not allowed to burn
any candles in studios. I'm like, I'll just invite, invite,
invite the Grace or Catherine in and you know, if
I get them both in the same morning, double bonus.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Studios, all Bonus smells even better.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
And ever since Ak quit smoking, I will say the
aroma on his end is improving as well.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Smelling good in here, I'm just feeling like I'm over
here on an island.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Us Phil from Florida visiting up in Minnesota this week.
I just heard Phil's comment a few few minutes ago.
I will have to say, Phil, you are one of
the most disgusting people I've ever heard. There's no way
that you have any right and you're just a typical Democrat.
All you can do is attack people personally. You have
nothing else than that. I think you should be ashamed
(22:01):
of yourself shape.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's so indicative.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Listen, Phil left that talkback because he wanted me to
play it right.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Of course he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I don't really believe that he believes what he's what
he's saying. He doesn't ever have an original thought. He
has MSNBC on he grabs a couple of talking points.
I don't know if he jots it down on a
pad and then regurgitates it on a talkback or not,
but he knows what value you guys both bring to
the show.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
It's not even a point that needs to be to
be argued.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
But I like to take those moments because it is
very indicative of the left right now. This Oh, I'm
gonna trigger those individuals, but it provides really good opportunities to,
you know, have for their discussions and have a discussion
that we wouldn't have ended up having if it hadn't
been for his inane comments. Also, it gives us the
opportunity to award the talkback of the day. Yeah, it's
(22:52):
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Speaker 5 (23:03):
John Gang.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Phil leaves to stick to his task to making bathroom brown.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
He's in this early in the morning.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Man, sure talk back of the Day brought to you
by Minni Leaf and minileaf dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Please don't start talking about it again.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Good morning, Happy Freedom Priday, John, Catherine Grace, and Ak
I think you should invite Phil In to be an
in studio guest.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think that would be great.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I'm sure everybody in there would love to see a
hi to him right about now.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Maybe you can just changed Phil's last name to a Buster,
so you can be Phil a Buster.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Guy's a Buster.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Have a great Priday.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wow, people are on fire today. I was a little
too quick to award the talkback of the Day. I
think that was a little bit more apropos. No, I
would not invite Phil into the studio because it would
be awful. It would It would be horrible. He would
have he would have no. I mean, you won't talk
about not bringing any of the table. Would be Phil
in studio live, not having a legacy media television in
(24:07):
front of him to give him all of his lines.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah. What's really funny is like you find this all
over the place if you go on any YouTube shows.
Most of the time when you have like a typical
left leaning individual when they're live, they are awful because
they don't actually pay attention. They just read talking points
and they actually can't flesh out their own arguments. They'll
(24:30):
say one thing here and then you say, okay, well
what do you what does this mean over here? And
they're like, Oh, I don't really know too much about
that story, so I don't want to speak on it.
And plus it would smell really bad in here. Phil
came in here, so we.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Oh my god, Phil, I knew you left these hated women,
you know, on account that you want guys to beat
him up in any sport. We'll just stop it there.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
True.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
True, that is true.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
This is what this is what Phil would sound like
if he went and hosted his own show.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, yeah, what number do people call to get on
the air?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And do we have that number? That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You might not feel it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You might not feel the energy right now, the swell
of what's happening here.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm Alec Baldwin and this is my brief but spectacular
take on why I.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Was born to host a public radio talk show.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
If you don't call, we're going to keep reading from
the Scientology Manual.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That is a essentially it would sound like oh Man Studio.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, So We're all way way off on time, so
we gotta take a break. We'll be back with the
final segment here on Twin City's News Talk on a
Freedom Friday. So happy to have our guests in studio
and all of the valuable commentary that they give us
every single Friday morning, along with making the studio smell great.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We'll get back to more of that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Coming up here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven
thirty and one oh three five FM.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I is a heterosexual male like the smell of women?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
How dare kill assume they are women? Yes, they have
feminine names, but we have no idea if they actually
identify as women?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
How dare Phil assume it?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
What is he?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
A bit?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I'm fairly certain that Grace and Catherine's husbands would have
something to say about all of that, although you know,
you never know who am I to judge?
Speaker 6 (26:27):
I have one of those x's on my license getting
read up on a huge conundrum.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Twin City's Newstalg final segment for a Freedom Friday. Grace
Catherine from American Experiment ak Kamara and MC master Control.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Sam is in the booth next door.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Yeah, thanks John, Actually, so I need your guys to
help with something just really quick. I usually don't. I
usually don't do podcast titles on the air, but I'm
gonna throw this out. Do we do phil a Buster
or do we do AK likes the smell of women?
What do we think of for the AK likes the
smell of women?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Catherine, Yeah, yeah, I like that one. Okay, Grace, I.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Like pillow Buster.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
But they're both winners, so it's okay.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I A is a heaterosexual male like the smell of women.
It's true. And my wife shout out to Smoopy smells
amazing all the time. Even she's like, oh, and you
take a shower. Yet I'm like, you smell amazing. So
I'm a guy you always smell.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Guess someone needs to do the Joe Biden sniff.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
But AK, yeah, I do not sniff people, all right.
I just think that because I don't smoke, like, I
can smell a lot better like you. You do gain
like your sense of smell back pretty quickly. You don't
realize like how much like when you're just housing down
two packs a day, you just lose your sense of
smell and kind of taste.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
He has a new lease on life and smell Yes,
with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Groceries free pet food given out in Chicago to Snap
recipee and says shut down drags drags on. Thousands get
groceries at Southside Church. Just a quick note on this
from churches.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
To the Chicago Animal Care.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And Control, the local community is coming together and help
in an effort to help struggling those struggling without the
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits during the shutdown. You get
into this piece and then it talks about how the
Chicago Animal Care and Control was able to host a
pet food pantry to support pen owners impacted by the
(28:31):
recent SNAP benefit pause.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's all fine and dandy, but Snap doesn't offer free
pet food.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I have fairly certain at least that's what I saw,
or do you know otherwise?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
So technically humans can eat dog food.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
They do make a point in the story where they
do not want people eating the pet food.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, you don't what I mean, But if you're starving,
probably gonna eat the dog food. I'm just saying, maybe
can you buy Here's what I do know for a fact,
because I was actually shocked. All I went with my
sister to a food shelf. My sister in this entire
conversation about people starving and all this stuff is so
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absurd because there are so many churches that are offering
these services, there are so many food pantries that are
offering these services. But when my sister would go to
the food pantry, they were like, here's cat food, here's
cat litter, like all of these different things. Now she
didn't need it because she didn't have a cat at
the time, but I was like, holy cow, Like they're
literally at food shelves giving pet food. And my whole
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thing is like, if you can't take care of your pet,
my goodness, maybe you shouldn't have a pet. Like when
you see homeless people out there and and bums and
they got dogs, I feel so bad for the doll.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, SNAP feels the same way because you cannot buy
pet food. The Snap money benefits are restricted to food
and plants for human consumption. And yes, they do say
do not eat eat the dog food. Do not eat
the dogs sounds like sounds like a sounds like a scam.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But you can't eat the dugs.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It does give me an opportunity to go to this story, though,
pet owners are going after the Associated Press after the
outlet published a video suggesting that pets make climate change worse.
The video, posted to social media, said that pets worsen
climate change by needing food and high meat content. The
video also recommended that people seeking to own a pet
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avoid breeders and instead adopted pets without owners.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I also don't have a problem with somebody wants to
go and get a very specific dog from a very
specific place that somebody wrote from the people who brought you,
you will all eat bugs. It comes sacrifice your your
pets for climate change. It's interesting, though, because the fake
meat and bug protein that all kind of died, that
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went away. You and I were talking about that a
couple of years ago, and the whole the fake meat
craze popped up, and that's an kind of just went
along with all of the criticism of the East Wing ballroom.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean I have a little bit of a
conspira conspiratorial take on this. I think that it went
away because they've just integrated all the cloned meat into
our beef supply. That's what I personally think, because if
you remember there was this back and forth about whether
or not they should have to label lab created meat.
I'm not talking about like the fake meat, because they
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have to label that because they want to market it.
But my understanding is that you do not actually have
to label cloned meat. And so my fear is that
it's just all up in our beef supply and broadly
eaten cloned beef.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You do what, Please don't start talking about it again.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
I'm just wondering back to the free dog food perfectly.
Who is just feeding their dog whatever they can get
their hands on.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
My dog would not do well. He has a sensitive stomach.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
I mean, if you switch his food, he's like a
mass ruined things.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Part of this has a has a chicken allergy, which
is really difficult because like when it comes to foods
for dogs like chicken, like there's chickens like in all
of it, Like it's hard to find it without chicken.
Machin has she's very, very very sensitive tummy on my.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
My puppy beans. He's like three years old now, but
he'll eat everything and uh we he was getting a
little fat and the vets, like you might want to
lay off with giving him everything that you eat all
the time. But he's lost three pounds recently, so, you know,
because we haven't been feeding him in as much. But
he'll eat anything that I give him anything, And so
if I mean some, he'll just sit there hemo big
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and I'll give him. You know, a little little bite cat.
You say the cat or dog dog, it means the
Boston terry more like a cat. Dude to me, Oh,
I hate cats.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I guess I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I think that they are demon spawns. Okay. I don't
understand why people own cats. They are worthless. They don't
do anything that is beneficial you. I was not there,
just rude. I hate cats. My mother in law has
a cat. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Something tells me that Grace is a cat person.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Everyone in my life hates cats. I don't understand, like
the intense cat hatred.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
I have no loyalty every day it works, so sure,
I own cats.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I've had cats.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You have cat.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Angels, have cat little free angels who want nothing more
than to love you and per when they see you.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I'm with you, I'm with you. I'm in the dogs now.
But I had cats before when I was younger, and.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Cats are funny like cats will do some really funny
stuff if they're If they're around, and they'll just hide
and then come out and jump around.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Listen, when you're sick, your dog will come and be
chilling by you. Your cat is like, I hope you die.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You've had the wrong cats. That's what I'm getting out
of this.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
You've had the wrong cat.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Well.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I did have a traumatic experience where I spit doritos
at my cat when I was five, and when my
mom found out that I was doing it to the
family cat, she then too doritos and spits them back
at me. But maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well, speaking of cats, I have this story. The unofficial
mayor of a busy San Francisco street is dead after
being struck by one of Waimo's self driving cars.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Uhuh get paid.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
This unofficial mayor went by the name of kit Cat.
This was a beloved cat at Randa's Market run over
by an automated car back on October twenty seventh. He
was rushed to the hospital by a bartender working nearby,
but unfortunately was pronounced dead on arrival. Kit Cast's death
has sparked an outpouring of fury and sadness from those
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who loved him, and questions about the dangers posed by
self driving cars. Randa's market owner told Rolling Stone magazine
he was a special cat. You can tell by the
love and support he's getting from the community that he
was amazing. Anger in the community has increased after it
was revealed that on the same day that Kitcat was
killed the waymos Ceo said that he thought society was
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ready to accept deaths caused by automated cars. The kit
Kat's owner pointed out at the time that the death
could have been that of a child, not just a
beloved pet. I have not been in a self driving
car yet, and I'm not eager to get into one
I have. I'm bad enough with just other drivers and
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being in cars. I can't imagine just a self driving car.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, in Vegas, I did a self driving lift and
then I've done a weimo in Phoenix. So okay, oh
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Have either of you you broad o you I'm pulling
that from Phil By the way, for those that have
just now joined the show, have either of you been
in a self driving car? And would you go in
a self driving car?
Speaker 5 (35:37):
No?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
But yes, I feel like totally I mean and Cats
is a small human's bigger. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I think I think Waimo. I think Waimo hates cats
and they've actually programmed their waymost to hit cats, and
I think it's a service to humanity.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Thanks your podcast, Cats, Small Humans Bigger.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
I appreciate Catherine the education there.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What what the more? You know?
Speaker 9 (36:10):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Hey knew and they let it happen.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Catherine Johnson, thank you very much for coming in studio
this morning.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You're welcome. Everyone.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Please check out the American Experiment podcast. Grace and I
have so much.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Fun and you will too. Check it out YouTube. Grace Skating,
thank you as well for coming in this morning. Thank
you so much for having me my gosh ak Kamara.
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Speaker 2 (36:46):
Sam, thank you so much for the work this morning.
Absolutely good platform. Sam.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Thank you for your jeep knowledge. Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Are you a dog or cat dude? But definitely dog?
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
All right, I knew it?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, I go both ways?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Wait? Whoa take?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That clip that have a fantastic weekend, everybody. If you
miss the show, check out the podcast Talk to You Monday.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Bye.