November 12, 2025 • 47 mins
Glen Mason is back in-studio for another great hour of conversation including Gophers/Oregon, Indiana's crazy comeback, more Mase stories and at the end some Mase tax advice!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's time for another edition of Mace in your Face now,
along with College Football Immortality, Glenn Mason.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Here's Dan Burrero.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
If cafe and the restaurant was still around, would Koc
be offended if the menu included the Koc caesar word
salad that's from Grant to Maple Grove. That's pretty good.
We have a guy in studio occasionally was could cook
up some words salad.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, that's not games. And during the week previow games.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I was very sustinct in what I direct, direct and
to the point.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It might have been an open book, but I got
right to the.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Point to your detriment. You told me many times, you said,
that's one of your biggest regrets, that you told people what.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
They wanted to hear rather than what they needed to hear. No,
I was in I was in need to hear a
guy and some guys.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Like Jerry kill Yeah, and he was smarter than I was,
you know, Kansas guys.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm like a fox, you know Jersey guys. So the
good old boy, good old boy things. And if I
had to do.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It all day, if I had in a great state
of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I tell a story all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I love to tell him, but you know, Jerry, you'd
hear him all the time time Minnesota, basically said Rebecca
and there we'll be buried here right in Minnesota. I
wan toad you when I'm done coaching, I'm staying right here.
I'm in the car and I listened to radio newsflash
news alert, Jerry Kill's stepping down.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm going south and thirty five next to you know,
there's Rebecca and Jerry. They went buy me about ninety
five miles an hour with the UA. Where are you going?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I mean and so here?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I was, yeah, I'm still here, so here, Yeah, picking
up the pieces.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah that's very very true. But I was not a
word sellary guy. You are.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm kind of I'm kind of tersts sometimes and right
to the point.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And you know that's the way tense, defensive like a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know, when you when you have to feel one
of those lousy questions, stupid questions.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
From dan Burrailway expect I mean, you give a good question.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Somebody had to ask them. I know, sometimes the stupid
question elicits the greatest response.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You hope to get a stupid answer, that bait out
there that's the beauty. Then here you go.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How about my Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh, well, hotly, you know, I tell you they're they're
absolutely we say it every week.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Let's face it, they're legit.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The the only game that.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, I mean, they played two games with they could
have lost, but they won both. That's the mark of
a real good football They against IWA, that's true, and
against Penn State. But that last play, that catch that
kid made. Wow. Uh And historically that would have been
a game that Penn State would have won and in
the end would have lost. And you said, boy, they
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played great, but they just couldn't get the mindset, you know,
and that guy made that catch and they did right now.
They're well coached, they've got a lot of talent. You know,
people if they didn't have an IU on their helmet,
they had Buckeye leeds on the helmet. That people have
been even throwing more praise in them. But they're well coached,
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they've got talent, and they believe they're really you know,
they're gonna play and they probably have already. They've played
some teams that have more talent than them, but no
one's playing better as a team than they are.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Do you still know your college rules? Do you think
you're still conversant in the most important college rules. It's
been a long time since you've cotched. I want to
try this one on you because I and and guards
he might know the answer to this one too. So
what's the rule in college regarding shoving a wide receiver
out where he's not given the chance to bring his
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feet down. In other words, if the rule is it's
still up to the receiver, you can shove them out
and it's an incomplete pass. It looked to me like
the defensive back had a chance to do that but
didn't really try, and that would have negated the receivers
I think chance to end up making such a ridiculous catch.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm embarrassed to say. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I know it's different than pro football. It's the opposite. Okay,
So in pro football, can you shove the guy out
of Yes, one hundred percent you can. Yes, there's no
force out anymore. Vikings lost a playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They did when the rule was reversed. It was different
back then then, and.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm one hundred percent sure I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
What do you think, guard, I think. I think it's
the same now that you can shove them so you
can show used different. That to me was the surprise.
It almost looked like, oh, I don't want to get
too close to him now I kept lifting him.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes, he had no chance. I still can't believe he
got the foot done.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm either going that high in the air. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
The official got it right right from the beginning, got
it right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
My first lines, I said, he's at a bound and
then in that slow motion and.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You looked at it, you said, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, it's it's it's pretty remarkable. And now well they're
set pretty much for the Big Ten title game, but
they're gonna still My prediction is they will still be
I bet you they're five point underdogs to Ohio State.
Is that too high you think? I think that's what
it's going to be. Whether it should be or not,
I still think because it's Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know, you keep getting in this gambling thing.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I got a sour taste in my mad don't blame
you for about this game.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You know what we you and I have talked about
the problems of this gambling for a couple of years now. Ever,
since all this gam on the phone and stuff, I'm
gonna tell you that there's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
The biggest threat to sports is if people think the
fix is in what you're talking about, if the gamblings
are and look at it, it's more and more.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And so what does the NC double A do in
their infinite wisdom. Now they're saying, oh, they any sport? No,
why why would you do that? You know what I'm saying,
you met that rule. The fix is in with those guys.
You know the money you're going to be made on
those kids that can bet on the games off their phone?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Why you know?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Why would you do that? It makes absolutely no sense.
And then when you think about this baseball deal, I
didn't you know? I knew that you could bet on
certain things like is the is the next pitch going
to be a ball to strike? You don't think that's
not easy to fix? Or someone told me you can
bet on over under the speed of the.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Net rate in this in the classic case, that's one
of them. It's velocity. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, does anybody that the money that could be made.
The only way they get caught is when some dummy
bets too much money.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I get that's how it's happened. You know, they get greedy.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Have you ever been a sports better Never? Have you
ever been attracted by it?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No? Do you think? Why?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Is that just I'm gonna tell you know how I
learned the lesson. This goes way back. They used to have,
I think, on all college campuses, and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They used to have these parley parlay sheets.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
You'd pick you know, you have to pick twenty winners
or whatever it would be. And everybody, I'm not saying
it was right, no one ever thought anything about it,
but every I remember the highest state they pass it
around and guys would do it every month. And you know,
you think the coaches that know, coach has never won
that there. It was always the secretary or the janitor
or the bus driver. And I thought, you know, watching
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all this film and you think you know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Uh uh No. Sometimes and you've heard me say that,
what was it?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
What was the game where I said, well, I tell
you what, the advise a game which I'm not I'd
take the Gophers in the points.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What game was that? I don't remember? It was Iowa, Iowa. Yeah,
it was like eight and a half point. I agree, said,
Iowa point.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They can't score that many points. I said, I bet
the house. Well, I'm glad I'm not a better because
I lost my house.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Did you ever have to talk to any coaches about that,
any assistance there? Any times you're like, hey, let's just
go easy on what you What are you trying to do?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You can't get involved in this kind of stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I used to part of the deal every year, you know,
just like you go over things that you expected from
your player, same thing with the coaches, you know, I
mean a lot of things that you went over by
say fellas, you know, I'm not approved. You know, you
get a drunk driving and you're probably gonna lose your job.
You know if you involved, you know, you can't even
get involved in Back in my day, you couldn't get
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involved in a march madness office pool. You remember Rick
Neuheisel got that's true, right, and a jam out there
and at the University of WA Washington.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Did you ever scalp your Rose Bowl tickets? You know,
the like Mike Tights got in trouble for he had
Super Bowl tickets and got caught many years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
As head coach.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Did you ever have access to tickets and then you
scalped them and got caught?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, you didn't. As a big tang coach, you didn't
have access.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And you get those kind of perks. Those perks didn't exist. No,
I'm just looking for.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Sid I probably would have. I guess, well, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, you know Sean Salisbury we have on almost every week.
He claims that the whole thing, the reaction to that
is ludacrous. That players did that forever, whether it's right
or not, that in pro I'm talking about pro at least,
that they did it all of the time.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, when I was coaching assistant coach at Iowa State, Okay,
and in the old Big Eight, which was a great
he was the head coach. He was a great football conference.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, when you played an await game at either Oklahoma
or Nebraska back in those days, you got your hands
on the tickets, actually the hard tickets. So when you
played away, when the bus rolled up at the hotel
and you got off, there were the guys buying the
tickets right off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're right there, and no one has thought of the
ib it. I mean, that's just the way it was.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You didn't feel guilty at all. It's not legal. I
don't think it's the right you're.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't know. I think you want more Cyclone fans
in the crowd. I think he was selling them too.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's probably true.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I forgot it, Bruce me.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I mean, good god, you know, don't let the players
make any back then that was.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Now look what they've made. Well, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're doing very well. Uh, let's do some bonus bucks, gardsy,
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Say that?
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Mason, your face is back with us in studio for
the hour. Kessler will follow the top five at five.
Mason's even broad guests. This is what he does. Occasionally
he surprises us guards you with a guest. Don't we
know that's Mace Though he's he's always been a man
of the people.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What do you think of my guests?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Very nice, very nice, and surprisingly kind to me, which
is not always the case with.
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Might accompany you, She.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Said to me, I listened to radio at dan Burrow.
Seems like a real nice guy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh boy, if you only knew, No judge, she sounds objective. Yeah,
you're not objective, that's your problem. What was the the
the yarn you wanted to spin? Was it Iowa Iowa
state related? Oh yeah, let's get let's introduce that and
then we can get to that place. So the the
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the I guess development in the Brian Kelly story is
that now we're hearing that LSU was saying, well, we're
gonna we don't want to have to give you that
big buyout, so we're going to fire you. We think
we can fire you with cause because allegedly there were
some out of contract settlement proposals they offered that weren't
for the total amount. The Kelly people aren't going for it,
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and they're saying, well, we're gonna be able to fire
you with cause. I don't know how that's going to
be possible. There's guardian I said, faking a Southern accent.
Is that firing for cause? I'm not sure that enough?
Is that fraud?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, but here's what happens.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, so ill As you said, well, you know we're
gonna fire you with cause, and the other side well,
and then Elisil says, well, you know we're not paying
our legal family tax papers are well, we'll tie this
up for litigation forever. And then they come along said,
I'll tell you what you don't want to do. We
owe you to a settlemore. We'll give you twenty and
call it a day and you know what I mean,
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Sure does he do what it does, but you know
what it reminds me. And I got to tell you.
Maybe i've told this story before, I'm want to tell
you because it's appropriate. When I was an assistant coach
at Iowa State back in the mid seventies, guy named
lu mccullor was the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
He made my position coach at the high State.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So one day it takes me to lunch and he says,
you know, I'm gonna give you a little advice. He said,
I got a sneak in suspicion you're going to be
a head coach someday. And he said, when you become
a hate coach, make sure you have a screw you file.
I said, oh, what, you know what that is? I said,
I have no idea. He said, let me tell you.
If you're a hate coach long enough, one of these
days they're going to fire you. And not only you're
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going to fire you, they're going to say we're not
going to pay you. So when they say screw you,
you say no, no, screw you, and you bring out
your file. It has all the dirt on them. I
never forgot that. So years later I get hired at
Kent State. After I get the job, Paul Amidillo was
the athletic director. Right told him that story, just like
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I'm telling you verbatim. A couple of years later, I
went to Kansas and Bob Frederick was the AD told
them that story. Verbatim came to Minnesota after I had
the job. I told Mark Deanhart that story. Then I
told tom O that story, and then I told Joel
Maturi that story.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And sure enough, one day I get a phone call,
phone call, and not in person phone call. I was
ten miles away.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Come on, that's a long traffic was happy that day?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah it was a Sunday, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
But anyway, So anyway, mister Butruri tells me that they
made a decision to change the leadership. I said, what
are you not and he said, we change the leadershi
football program. I said, you mean I'm fired and he said, well,
I wouldn't put it that way.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I said, well how would you put it?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And I said, listen, I wish we had that recorded.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I said, I'm you know, I am a big guy,
and how this works. I don't agree with it. But
that's the way it is. However, I said, you know,
I have LP held my end of the bargain. I
expect the University of Minnesota pope, they're into the bargain.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And he goes, what do you mean.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I said, I expect to get paid every penny that's
coming to me. He said, I don't think that'll be
a problem. And I said, I don't want to hear that.
I want to guarantee from you that that's going to happen.
He said, well, I can't give you that guarantee. And
I said, Joel, don't worry. Don't forget about my screw
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you file. He said, is that a threat? I said, oh,
just a reminder. I got everything within a week.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Senior fight.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I have the most important follow up question. How thick
was that screw you file? And if you saved it,
is it in do you still have it in the
bank vault?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Fullest? Well, full disclosure? I never had a file in
your face. You bluffed it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I bluffed it, yep, good poker play. Yeah, but it worked.
You got every penny.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
But let me just tell you a full disclosure and
get your TV now, A full disclosure. If I'd got
my money. I made up a lot of stuff and
put it in that fold. And I'll tell you that.
I'll tell you is my mace.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In your face.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We're gonna get you. We still gotta get you that TV.
By the way, this is from Ames Iowa guy, which
years was Mason and Ames What what is his go
to at Hickory Park and Great Plain Sauce and Doe.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
In fact, that place hit the Hickory Park. That's the
place where Luke mccolla told me that story. Really yeah,
I forget what, but I tell you I I aice
to go there all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I was.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I mean think I was there in uh seventy six
and seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yep, seventy six said this is from Matt out of
the East Metro. I've got a mace in your face story.
Fall of ninety nine. I was a second year MBA
at Carlson six of us, rented an RV and went
to the Sun Bowl against Oregon. Yes, we chose to
spend the Turn of the Millennium in El Paso. I was, yeah,
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I was there, got sick. We had a couple and
then went to watch We had a couple and then
went to watch the Glenn Mason Show hosted by Mike Max.
We were well behaved while the camera was on, but
we were definitely we definitely tried to crack Mace up
during the breaks. A couple of weeks later, one of
the guys not me had an internship with the Athletic Department.
He passed Mace and in Beerman. Mace got a couple
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of steps pasted him, stopped and said, you were one
of those guys in El Paso. Thanks for not ruining
my show. Any re election to that? Well, you know so,
you've had so many, I mean moments like that you
probably don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I kind of remember that.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wish they I wish they would actually cause trouble
during the show, just to get you going.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Why would you? Why would you wish that? I can't
help myself.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm a rabble rouser. You know that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Now here's the difference. Let me go back to Brian Kelly. Yeah,
here's the difference. Down South SEC. You know, in the
old days, they used to fire these guys because they
got caught cheating. Yes, and they still pay them, and
they still pay them because they wanted them to keep
their mouths shut.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, but that stuff's still going on down there,
but it's legal that matter. Yeah, what is he going
to say, well, we're buying players?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, you can't buy a players even news they've lost
the leverage.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, that's very rud Does LSU.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Think this will help them get a big time coach
coming in?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, it's that's a very good question.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well you heard it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean the governor has basically said they fired the AD. Yeah,
they're claiming the LSU claim, as I understand it is
that the AD did't even have the right to fire them.
And that's why they are, I think adhering to the
notion that, well, we didn't fire you technically yet, and
so we're we're going to do it the way we
should have done it, the way the AD didn't fire
you with, cause that's at least what they're trying to do.
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I don't think it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Very They just don't. They just don't want to pay it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They want to pay the what's his buyout? Is it
fifty fifty fifty four million dollars? Yeah, it's hard to
know who to root for here, though, Mace. I got
to be honest with you, it's very difficult to root for.
Brian Kelly.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, no, what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not a
Brian Kelly guy. But I'm going to just tell you something.
Brian Kelly didn't put it under theseus. I mean how
many times that I've said these schools, and I'm not
begrudging anybody, but these schools, these ads and presidents and
border they've lost their mind. You know, the salaries they're
paying in an agreeing to a buyout of you know,
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fifty four. What is the guy at we looked at
at Georgia's one hundred million? Yeah, yeah, I mean are
they are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Who would agree to that?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Should I have beaten Organ? I mean they didn't well,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They played a heck of a game. I mean you
look at certain play. Everybody wants to look at the
play at the end of the game. But obviously that
snap that went over the punter's head in the rain,
you know, the start off that way, uh, and then
I would battles back and they take the lead, and
they're because of their defense, you think, well, they're probably
in pretty good shape. Except all that I need is
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a field goal to beat That's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, if they're up by four, boom and with
that what's the quarterback's name?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
More namere.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
That throw that he made on third down and that
was well covered and I mean a great but a
great throw.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
At exactly the right time. So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Playing that, you would think that they're sick down in
Iowa City. They played well enough to beat Oregon, and
they played well enough to beat in the.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
End, that's true.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They've had two tough losses that way at home. I
would argue the Gophers Friday night, this is there the
third time. Why they've they've they've played a heavyweight opponent
this year because I don't put Nebraska in that classification
they shouldn't be in. So they get killed by Ohio State.
Maybe that's expected. They're non competitive against Iowa. Can they
be competitive against Oregon? I mean, do you give them
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any chance to knock off the Ducks Friday night primetime?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Well, anything can happen, you know, if I was a
better I put money on it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Are they catching Oregon at the right time? You know,
you know, possibly?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I mean they're playing early and they played at on
the road away in Kennick Stadium in a tough, tough ballgame.
Is it easier to come back from a tough ball
game or an easy win? The thing about it, you know,
you get battle hard, you know, if it becomes rue
your most game. And that's what I talked about Indiana.
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Now they've in a couple of close games. Uh, they
know how to act when the all the pressure is
on them, and they they believe that it's happening. But uh,
I think that's that's Uh, that's tough duty for the
the golfers going out there playing on the West coast,
playing Oregon, who's a good football team.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Think about Oregon everything they do, they run the ball, well,
they've got a good offensive line. I was really you know,
to run the ball the way they did against Iowa.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Let me ask you, if you had an offense that
was averaging five point six yards of carry on the ground,
would you hand the ball off more than like twelve times?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? Who are you talking to? Koc No? Who are
you talking? Yeah, you know it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't understand why he hates the Why does he
hate the run? Is it the thing? I want to look?
You know, I'm the quarterback whisper. So it's got what
is it you're doing that? But he used to be
what is PJ hate the pass? You remember when you
used to get up or some time about that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Because there's there's there's middle ground here. That's the problem.
The idea is you do what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Ain't it the idea say when I get done, you
can talk. Okay, I mean that's that's the way I'm
talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well that's okay, Oh I see so.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But my point being, listen, the idea is to control
the ball, move the ball and score points.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I mean, do what you do there.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know that one of the big problems that I have,
and we talked about it the Michigan State game. Yes,
you know it's you're struggling. You're not a good football team.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You know it's second and one. Don't be a g
run you know, think well, I can get.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
A yard in two tries and then keep the ball
and do what you But you know, one of the
problems that I have at all levels.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
When I see guys on the sideline and they're looking
at that play sheet, I'm thinking, what are you looking at?
It's not that complicated. How many plays do you have a.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Lot in pros have the sheets sheets taller than the person.
Why you're trying to improve is trying to impress people.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, come on, I.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Mean I very sophisticated game now, mate.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I love when you hear John Gruden and he starts
with those clips on there when he's doing the play call.
You know, well, I'm gonna tell you if you have
to name what every player is doing there, and then
that's smart enough to learn the plays, why don't you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Just call it forty two right the game?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm just telling you, I just worry that if you're
looking in that sheet all the time, you're you're missing
what's out out there.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
On the field. That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And I you know, hold on one second. You see
the JJ McCarthy news A sure did yeah limited in
practice today with a hand injury right hand?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes, he heard it.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He claims he hit his hand on a Ravens player's
helmet on the throat of the end zone for JJ,
the one that JJ probably should have caught. When asked
of it affected him, he said, if you slam your
hand in a car door, it's going to feel different.
But there's no excuse. We're warriors and you just got
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to push through another injury for JJ. That's crazy, right,
I'm just saying. I just did say today.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
He said today that if if it was like tomorrow,
like he expects him back tomorrow on no problem, Like,
it wouldn't even been a thing if it was another day.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, I'll let's see. You never know what this develops into.
Let me ask you a question as a former coach,
and maybe you didn't concern yourself with these things, but
as a guy who I think I've gotten to know
a little bit regarding what you value when it comes
to a player performance, Would there be any part of
you if you're the head coach and not something I
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say you would say out loud, but that internally you'd go.
You know, I like my quarterback a lot. I like JJ.
I like what he represents, what he might become. I
don't it's I don't need stuff about how he's got
this alter ego and he calls himself nine on game day.
I don't just go play, Just go play? So would
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that bug you at all?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Is a guy that would yeah? Yeah, uh, you know
I come from a different era. You know you might
say old school dinosaur or whatever, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Unfortunately, but.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
My friend Gary Homan, who you've been in here, Yeah,
of course he jokes about all the time he's been
around me. When he would hear me say to a player,
why don't you just shut up?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Be a little and a little bit more demonstrative than.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That, you know, yes, yes, in fact, he l's One
time he was in Chicago at media Day and I
was sitting at one table, and I'll tell you what
it was. Daryl Reeve was sitting at the other table,
and as I was listening to him, and I had
to turn around and everybody in front.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Of everybody and tell him shut up. You know it
just that was a challenge. Daryl could talk. Well, he
shut up for us.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Oh yeah, sure, yeah, but yeah, I mean something, it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Just wait a while, I mean, just develop, you know,
I'd say, just just show show a body of work.
Because I like him as a player. I think he's
still got to I think he's got a chance to
be really good. He's been very in No well yeah, JJ,
but you know on Manna, you know, because isn't it
true that everybody has to every football player has to
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have an alter ego. On game day Saturday Sunday, the
game's crazy, the game is barbaric. You have to be
different on that day than any other day. Right by definition,
it's a brutal game. You know, it's not meant for everybody, No,
it really isn't. And but there's a lot of different
characters out there, that's true. Some guys don't say a word,
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and then other guys they're just they go NonStop.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But the but at the end of the day, it's
how you play, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And the thing about it when you can when you
do all the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If you're backing up the way you're playing, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
True, it's okay, that's okay. But you're one of those guys,
you know what I talk about all the time. It
cracks me up when I'm watching again at any level,
especially pro football, when all of a sudden a guy
will make a sack and you'll have to run to
the middle field and do a dance.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And there's two minutes left in the fourth quarter and
you're down by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
What are you doing? You look like you know.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, I mentioned there was a bare defensive Lineman two
games ago, who caused who sacked the QB and was
so busy celebrating he didn't notice that the QB fumbled
the ball during the sack. That's a problem. It's like
you got to play the play the rest of the
play at least, and that was in a closer game.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But that's the same issue. He had a plant, you know,
the whole week. He is, Yeah, that's true. I sack
a guy. Here's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Question, So you didn't really are you picking the upset
Gophers over?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, no, no, you're going I'm not doing that. Okay, Well,
what's what's the points for twenty five points?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think it is that?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
What it is?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is it that many points? Guardsy? What is the golpher?
I didn't realize it was that it's three touchdowns. It's
three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, that's gone. I might be tempted to take the Gophers.
I don't expec I don't think they're gonna win, but man,
that's a lot of points.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
A lot of twenty five and a half points, five
and twenty half and a half. That's that's considerable. When
was the last time we've been we'll probably go state.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Probably. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
That's a lot of you know, that's that's hard. That's
hard to pick.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Now, if I was a gambler, if I don't believe
even the govers, I ain't bet in Oregon.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's too many points.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, that's probably.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean out there, you don't know, they range all
the time. Yeah, correct, Maybe the duck doesn't feel good.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I don't know the question for Mace, is Wisconsin really
just a healthy, starter caliber quarterback away from becoming a
competitive team.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You know, I haven't seen him play. To be honest
with you, I know that everybody's upset. I know they've
had some injuries. A couple of young linebackers are playing
now that they're really excited about, and they haven't been
able to play the quarterback right that they want they
wanted to play. You know, I don't know the thing
about it is, if you still have Wisconsin on the schedule,
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you don't like to.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
See them win the way they did against Washington. Does
that bring them together? Did that give you confidence? Does
that give them the little juice that's going And you
talk about Washington, you talk about problems.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
How about Jed Fish their coach. The whole word out there.
He wants out, he wants to leave. He's not happy.
His wife hate Seattle. Supposedly she don't want to she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Set well, you should go, I should move there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
She doesn't want to raise her kids there. She's moved
back to Arizona. I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But it's all your guys all over the internet, isn't
he wasn't he your guy?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
My guy?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
He was here with.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
That's not very fact with fiction though, going his wife
and kids moved out.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I don't know if it's true or not. Yeah, that's true.
What I glossed over that two weeks Maggie's And why
is that copy? This is the radio. I'm just I'm
playing you now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I know I get blamed eventide on this one. Yeah,
I can't win because then I'll still be blamed, even
though I didn't say okay, welly, all right, mister computer
and behind the glass you check everything I say, check
it out, get it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
On the computer.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I just can't believe you would say something. I don't
know if it's true or not. That's a pretty big
thing to say. Well, I qualify at least other people
talk like they know. It's the fact that it's not.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, yeah, it's I'll google's. I'm curious though about that
Seattle opinion.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let me tell you this has been around for about
two weeks. That's why.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You know, sometimes on the internet, half the stuff you
see you can't believe. But the other end of that,
if there's enough smoke, there's probably fire someplace.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, that's off in the case.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
What's so the family, his wife and kids remained in Arizona.
They didn't move to Washington because they.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Want to Wait, he's been there how many years? This
is his second year? Okay, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
That happens finish high school in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You can't blame him for that. I heard it.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
One of the problems is his name, because he's jet
Fish and he's never lived anywhere for more than ten minutes.
Has popped up in some other some other coaching caps.
That doesn't make him a bad person, but they're questioning
his roots because his roots aren't even there.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So for jet Fish siding with me, yeah, I mean, Jed,
it's his choice. If he wants to change jobs every
fifteen minutes, you can say that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm just it sounds like you're in that and it
sounds like guards. He's ripping though.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
He has a sixteen year old who's been in five
different schools in the last eight years. He wants to
let her finish or what's wrong with that? That's a
good family matter. Maybe maybe there's.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
A thought about this before they moved five times a career.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's too good. It's unbelievable what I have. I had
another text for you.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I'll tell you what. I'll save him. Let's stay on
schedule a break here. I got a couple of other
things to get I got a math problem for you
to discuss. Maybe we'll talk about some other national stuff
and anything else that's stuck in Mace.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You got one left, oh, I got one? Good hold
on to that.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
We'll come back with that and then Top five, followed
by Pat Kessler, Mace, I need your help on one story.
What did exactly the Michigan's they get caught doing and
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what's the punishment?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, they had to vacate all their wins for three years.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Three years.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, I think it was. I think it must have
been recruiting violations or something. But the irony of it.
I found out about it on Instagram and Michigan Gold
Blue or um whatever it may be, is there and uh,
and they were howling about it that they had to
(34:29):
vacate all their wins and there's signs stealing.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
They didn't vacate anything that one did. That one thing.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I wonder why, you know, we used to joke all
the time, you know, when I was at Ohio State
and we played by the rules, we say, but we
used to joke. We ever get caught doing anything bad, probaya,
they'll put Cleveland State up provacon. You know this.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
So to answer both questions, this is the Mel Tucker era.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You remember.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
The sexual harassment stuff a few years ago. And so
they used three ineligible players that weren't eligible for some reason,
but they used them in the game. And the theory
is Michigan State, going back to the Brian Kelly thing,
wants to continue. I don't think the mel Tucker thing
has been settled. They want to fire mel Tucker for cause,
(35:21):
for cause, We're back to that, okay, and not pay
him I think a ninety million dollars by at US.
So they were actually welcoming these charges and they did
not fight these Yeah, they did not fight these like
Michigan fought the Connor Stallion stuff. They did not fight
these as vociferously.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Do we know where Connor Stallions is these days? I
thought I saw a tweet from him the other day
about something.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
He was, I think at a high school doing some coaching.
High school coaching. Yeah, but you know you talk about
the NC double A. Yes, which favorite thing? Did you see?
They just settled for three hundred and three million dollars
you have to pay out a term they volunteer coaches.
There was a in some sports.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't think football are and they've already had to
settle in sport of baseball. I don't think football and
basketball had it a volunteer coach and the rule was
they couldn't get paid. So it's like, no, you can't
do that. You can't restrict earnings, you know, by somebody.
And what amazing do you remember? Back in the nineties
(36:20):
they lost a big lawsuit because basketball had a position
called a restricted earning coach. Yeah, and they lost it,
and I was for even more money than this. I
think you think they would have learned their lesson. You know,
you wonder who is making the decisions? Don't they have
a lot of lawyers there. They do not very good obviously.
(36:41):
I mean they just pay that money out, They make nothing.
They just spend other people's money.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Well, I you know, we've we talked about the betting thing.
Is it that the ncluble allowing college kids to bet
on pro sports? Is it that their lawyers are telling
we would lose the case in court? And I say, well,
then get better lawyer. I mean, it doesn't seem like
they a has very good lawyer.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Lawyers.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
They they're they're not doing very well when things go
to court, other than you know, big settlements.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I don't buy that because they got all kinds of rules, right,
you know, they just have bad rules.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean they're getting nailed on this when it
comes to money. You know, uh, they were making money
all started with.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That EA sports right off a kid's name.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
How do you how do you use your your the
kid's name and all this stuff and you're making lots
of money off it and they don't get a piece
of the action. Well that's not right. But on this deal,
I don't know. I don't know if it's league number
to me, why I can't I can't understand what positive
thing comes out of saying it's okay, go ahead and
(37:50):
bet all the odds against you, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
The disasters in the waiting and in the making. I
guess I should say that's very true. Interestingly, this is
from five oh seven. Guy, What size was that TV
that Mace never got back? I think I could masge
to swing that for Mace and his commitment to the show.
Somebody's got of off of your TV. So what do
you remember the size that you in your office?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I think it was about eighty one.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yes, yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. I'm guessing
it was like like a postage stamp back in the.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Day, right, it went very big. Maybe it ended up
with a new flat screen. It seems interested it wasn't. No.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I went just say, before you get too far. Yeah,
you always say something, what's been bugging you?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What's been?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
What's I'm just not a sport guy. I'm gonna and
at it. We know that.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
On other day, I was downtown, now listen, downtown what
downtown many hous Okay, and I stopped to get a
cup of coffees.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I walked in place. It was crowded, looked like a
nice place.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Cut the coffee, and I proceeded to pay for it
with money cash.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Why cash? And they said, we don't take it. I
don't blame him. Why it's legal tender. And I said,
wait a minute, get your card out. I didn't have
a card with me. He didn't, so, I mean, you know,
so they literally they only that's that's wrong. Did they
did you get to keep the coffee? Did they let you?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
They say, we're gonna little give you this one.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I sat down and started crying and let me keep it.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Sympathy vote really though, Well, there are some places like that.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Cash a lot of places. I don't carry any cash. Cash,
So do you carry a lot of You don't because
you never want to buy I understand how much on.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
An average mace in your faverage mace day? How much
do you have in your pocket? A couple couple hundred?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Okay, don't you say that people are going to be
that's old that's old school, because I don't think most
people do that.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't guards you do carry any cash.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I carry no cat I carry maybe twenty bucks like
in my bag.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I didn't carry that. That's when you used to get
a clipping guy.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
You you guys don't tip. No, it's easy on the
She's never been easier. Now you get.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The door for you, you don't tip him.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Parking Why do you think we're valet parking? I mean
we're not like you. We're normal people to just park
our own cars. We're happy to park our own cars
in a walk. We don't need a guy driving the vehicle.
I'm probably riding my bike.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
If you go to a restaurant and get the bill,
you don't think that that waiter doesn't rather have the cash.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Give him the cash, you know, do I don't think
any more of that matters.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's it, sure does? Okay? Ask him? So you never
pay with a credit card.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I didn't say, I'm just saying if you go to
pay for cash, they should take the cakes.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You can still tend with cash. It's legal tender.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Dan Insiders tell me that Pam Borton got Mace's TV
and took it when she got can that's Mike and
would Berry. Pam Borton ended up. God, I can't believe
it's the TV where she Now? How did you and
Chris Voles get along? By the way, well, Chris doing
this with two minutes.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Left, Chris Balls was the women's ad when my first game,
there was two separate departments, you know, I you know,
we were cordially, we didn't have much interaction, you know,
you know, kind of cordially. I mean, I was all
for women's sports. Now, some of the things that she
would bring up, so, and I'm serious. I remember from
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the time she used the word shiro hiro nexus.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I really I didn't know what it meant.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I didn't And and it's a female hero, female hero.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Shiro a shiro.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know, well, I can't hear. I thought a hero
could be a man.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Or a woman. I never thought he's wrong hero shiro. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
So I was dying to ask her what do you
call a manhole cover? But I didn't want to do that.
I thought there there might be something creative.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Man. You can't let you.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Where is Chris Falls, by the way, these days she
lives in California.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, I said this during the break. She despised roycey
in me more than you did. That's that's what that
should have been, the unifying That's why they got a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But that was that was a very redeeming quality. That's
still so good. She was very smart on that, on
that front.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Out in the boonies in southwestern Minnesota. They don't take cards.
I'm with Mace.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I'm gonna tell you what about credit cards?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And it's un America. It's Unamerica.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
You should I'm not against credit card, but I'm saying
if you don't think when you if you don't think
that right away, right off the top, when they're paying
that three percent credit card, they know everybody. If they're
not going to raise that product to have the consumer
take care of it, you're you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Tell Mace he can use his phone to pay. He
needs to learn Apple pay.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
He used to have credit card? You still going to
put a credit to carry.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
The follow it?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And when you when you used to go to the
now gone Starbucks and Wysetta Downtown Wayseetta one, did you
pay cash or credit cash all the time?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Have servers and bartenders definitely prefer cash tips because they
do not accurate they do not accurately claimed them on
their taxes.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So I guess you're right, that's not the ethical Mase.
I know, well, you wouldn't want to be a party
to that.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Wait a minute, no, no, not paying taxes for these
people like that we paid too much tax as it is?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Do you think so? Why do you think Louis last?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You know in nineteen we didn't have income tax in
this country until nineteen thirteen, you know, I'm going to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And it was supposed to.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Be a temporary didn't have roads if it was up,
there's a lot didn't have there.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Nineteen it's supposed to be a temporary thing. Well then
it be. It was only supposed to be schools or police.
You'll be quiet. It was only for the top one percent.
Here's the thing. Only top one percent paid that. And
then they said, oh no, we got to get everybody.
Oh that's the top one percent.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
And then we got to say sales tax, Oh you
buy a home TAXI.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know what. No one's wan you to live here.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
You can move to you can go to Texas, you
can move to Florida.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No state income tax in in Texas. Is there one
in Florida? I don't think there is there either?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Is that Florida? Texas? I think Tennessee doesn't have you
love traveling, Maybe maybe it's time for you to maybe
And that's what Louis did. Yeah, that's Louis. Why do
you think Louis got his residence in all.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Mister, mister Minnesota. Come on, you can't accuse them of that.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, come on, Yeah, that the cat's out of the
bag of that one. All right, we gotta go anything
else before we go like that's it because we're out
of We're late, and Kessler's time is being effective.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
You would win in the may or may oral race
and Wiseta with your no tax on in Minneapolis, Minneapolis,
you'd be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
In trouble. Yeah, you'd be very, very gold water in Minneapolis,
but you'd be prefect.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I'm just gonna tell you that there's a you know,
Oklahoma plays Alabama at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's true, and you're picking the upset. I think this
is right. I'm not positive.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
I don't think that Alabama has ever been Oklahoma during
a regular season game.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Really, I think it's I'm not sure that's right.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Well, there's another one factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
What is it? I don't I'm not sure. Yeah, sure,
it threw it out there. I'm qualified it.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I'm only thirty eight and I pay cash half the time.
Mace is right. I thought tips aren't taxed anyway. What's
the difference that's true. They're not tipped anymore. Are they
are taxed anymore? I think that's all been.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Changed up till you make a certain amount of money.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Cash is legal tender if you have already have already
legally offered to pay, and therefore technically no longer have
to you no longer have.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
To see so they should have to give me that
coffee for free.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Late.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Let Mace cook be quiet, JG. Wow, Wow, all your
friends are going in today out they're texting in today.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
You know why.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I know, because people didn't know that there was an
income tact for nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You know you should still, he starts barking. You know
you should talk to about it.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Kesler, get kid Kesler on the tax stuff. Yeah, you know,
former political reporter Channel four for years.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah know it.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Now I'm going to look into nineteen thirteen and see
what else we're missing. You know what, we can go
back to time to bring back.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
The wig party.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
I think simpler times, you guys would carry to be
carried buggy instead of carry limo.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's what it would be if we went back to
your world, carry buggy.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And we want to thank our good friends at Jack's
cafe as well, doing outstanding job sponsoring this segment.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
When I go to Jack's, I dip in cash.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, sure you do, but you don't tip, well I do.
I've heard you're not. What I've heard is you're not
a bad tipper, but you're an average tipper. You rarely
surprise anybody.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's what type of service. That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So I was told by I can't I can't reveal
my sources. I'm an a media member. You know that
I can't give up my sources.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I remember too.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah you are. You got your own sources. That's true,
and I'm ashamed of it.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You you actually revel in it. You can't get enough
of it. You wish you would have done it sooner.
That's the truth of it. Getting some head nods on that,
by the way, from the Peanut Gallery, just saying so
verbal confirmation, confirmation. We gotta go, all right, coming in
next week, I'll be here again. That's gonna be three
straight weeks, I think, or is it four?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Maybe four?
Speaker 3 (47:10):
When when's the return to Fargo to the studios there?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't know when you go to the studio again?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Okay, but they know you well there too, obviously. Yeah,
you're you become a fixture.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I'm gonna say, I get treated the way I should.
You have a cup of coffee for me, so long coffee.
They treat me with respect that it's unbelievable. Yeah here,
not so much, thanks mace.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Uh let's pause top five vikings into report, which shockingly
includes the quarterback
It's time for another edition of Mace in your Face now,
along with College Football Immortality, Glenn Mason.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Here's Dan Burrero.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
If cafe and the restaurant was still around, would Koc
be offended if the menu included the Koc caesar word
salad that's from Grant to Maple Grove. That's pretty good.
We have a guy in studio occasionally was could cook
up some words salad.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, that's not games. And during the week previow games.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I was very sustinct in what I direct, direct and
to the point.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It might have been an open book, but I got
right to the.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Point to your detriment. You told me many times, you said,
that's one of your biggest regrets, that you told people what.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
They wanted to hear rather than what they needed to hear. No,
I was in I was in need to hear a
guy and some guys.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Like Jerry kill Yeah, and he was smarter than I was,
you know, Kansas guys.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm like a fox, you know Jersey guys. So the
good old boy, good old boy things. And if I
had to do.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It all day, if I had in a great state
of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I tell a story all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I love to tell him, but you know, Jerry, you'd
hear him all the time time Minnesota, basically said Rebecca
and there we'll be buried here right in Minnesota. I
wan toad you when I'm done coaching, I'm staying right here.
I'm in the car and I listened to radio newsflash
news alert, Jerry Kill's stepping down.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm going south and thirty five next to you know,
there's Rebecca and Jerry. They went buy me about ninety
five miles an hour with the UA. Where are you going?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I mean and so here?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I was, yeah, I'm still here, so here, Yeah, picking
up the pieces.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah that's very very true. But I was not a
word sellary guy. You are.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm kind of I'm kind of tersts sometimes and right
to the point.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And you know that's the way tense, defensive like a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know, when you when you have to feel one
of those lousy questions, stupid questions.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
From dan Burrailway expect I mean, you give a good question.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Somebody had to ask them. I know, sometimes the stupid
question elicits the greatest response.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You hope to get a stupid answer, that bait out
there that's the beauty. Then here you go.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How about my Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh, well, hotly, you know, I tell you they're they're
absolutely we say it every week.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Let's face it, they're legit.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The the only game that.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, I mean, they played two games with they could
have lost, but they won both. That's the mark of
a real good football They against IWA, that's true, and
against Penn State. But that last play, that catch that
kid made. Wow. Uh And historically that would have been
a game that Penn State would have won and in
the end would have lost. And you said, boy, they
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played great, but they just couldn't get the mindset, you know,
and that guy made that catch and they did right now.
They're well coached, they've got a lot of talent. You know,
people if they didn't have an IU on their helmet,
they had Buckeye leeds on the helmet. That people have
been even throwing more praise in them. But they're well coached,
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they've got talent, and they believe they're really you know,
they're gonna play and they probably have already. They've played
some teams that have more talent than them, but no
one's playing better as a team than they are.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Do you still know your college rules? Do you think
you're still conversant in the most important college rules. It's
been a long time since you've cotched. I want to
try this one on you because I and and guards
he might know the answer to this one too. So
what's the rule in college regarding shoving a wide receiver
out where he's not given the chance to bring his
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feet down. In other words, if the rule is it's
still up to the receiver, you can shove them out
and it's an incomplete pass. It looked to me like
the defensive back had a chance to do that but
didn't really try, and that would have negated the receivers
I think chance to end up making such a ridiculous catch.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm embarrassed to say. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I know it's different than pro football. It's the opposite. Okay,
So in pro football, can you shove the guy out
of Yes, one hundred percent you can. Yes, there's no
force out anymore. Vikings lost a playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They did when the rule was reversed. It was different
back then then, and.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm one hundred percent sure I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
What do you think, guard, I think. I think it's
the same now that you can shove them so you
can show used different. That to me was the surprise.
It almost looked like, oh, I don't want to get
too close to him now I kept lifting him.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes, he had no chance. I still can't believe he
got the foot done.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm either going that high in the air. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
The official got it right right from the beginning, got
it right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
My first lines, I said, he's at a bound and
then in that slow motion and.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You looked at it, you said, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, it's it's it's pretty remarkable. And now well they're
set pretty much for the Big Ten title game, but
they're gonna still My prediction is they will still be
I bet you they're five point underdogs to Ohio State.
Is that too high you think? I think that's what
it's going to be. Whether it should be or not,
I still think because it's Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know, you keep getting in this gambling thing.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I got a sour taste in my mad don't blame
you for about this game.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You know what we you and I have talked about
the problems of this gambling for a couple of years now. Ever,
since all this gam on the phone and stuff, I'm
gonna tell you that there's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
The biggest threat to sports is if people think the
fix is in what you're talking about, if the gamblings
are and look at it, it's more and more.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And so what does the NC double A do in
their infinite wisdom. Now they're saying, oh, they any sport? No,
why why would you do that? You know what I'm saying,
you met that rule. The fix is in with those guys.
You know the money you're going to be made on
those kids that can bet on the games off their phone?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Why you know?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Why would you do that? It makes absolutely no sense.
And then when you think about this baseball deal, I
didn't you know? I knew that you could bet on
certain things like is the is the next pitch going
to be a ball to strike? You don't think that's
not easy to fix? Or someone told me you can
bet on over under the speed of the.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Net rate in this in the classic case, that's one
of them. It's velocity. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, does anybody that the money that could be made.
The only way they get caught is when some dummy
bets too much money.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I get that's how it's happened. You know, they get greedy.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Have you ever been a sports better Never? Have you
ever been attracted by it?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No? Do you think? Why?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Is that just I'm gonna tell you know how I
learned the lesson. This goes way back. They used to have,
I think, on all college campuses, and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They used to have these parley parlay sheets.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
You'd pick you know, you have to pick twenty winners
or whatever it would be. And everybody, I'm not saying
it was right, no one ever thought anything about it,
but every I remember the highest state they pass it
around and guys would do it every month. And you know,
you think the coaches that know, coach has never won
that there. It was always the secretary or the janitor
or the bus driver. And I thought, you know, watching
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all this film and you think you know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Uh uh No. Sometimes and you've heard me say that,
what was it?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
What was the game where I said, well, I tell
you what, the advise a game which I'm not I'd
take the Gophers in the points.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What game was that? I don't remember? It was Iowa, Iowa. Yeah,
it was like eight and a half point. I agree, said,
Iowa point.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They can't score that many points. I said, I bet
the house. Well, I'm glad I'm not a better because
I lost my house.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Did you ever have to talk to any coaches about that,
any assistance there? Any times you're like, hey, let's just
go easy on what you What are you trying to do?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You can't get involved in this kind of stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I used to part of the deal every year, you know,
just like you go over things that you expected from
your player, same thing with the coaches, you know, I
mean a lot of things that you went over by
say fellas, you know, I'm not approved. You know, you
get a drunk driving and you're probably gonna lose your job.
You know if you involved, you know, you can't even
get involved in Back in my day, you couldn't get
(08:51):
involved in a march madness office pool. You remember Rick
Neuheisel got that's true, right, and a jam out there
and at the University of WA Washington.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Did you ever scalp your Rose Bowl tickets? You know,
the like Mike Tights got in trouble for he had
Super Bowl tickets and got caught many years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
As head coach.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Did you ever have access to tickets and then you
scalped them and got caught?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, you didn't. As a big tang coach, you didn't
have access.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And you get those kind of perks. Those perks didn't exist. No,
I'm just looking for.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Sid I probably would have. I guess, well, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, you know Sean Salisbury we have on almost every week.
He claims that the whole thing, the reaction to that
is ludacrous. That players did that forever, whether it's right
or not, that in pro I'm talking about pro at least,
that they did it all of the time.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, when I was coaching assistant coach at Iowa State, Okay,
and in the old Big Eight, which was a great
he was the head coach. He was a great football conference.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, when you played an await game at either Oklahoma
or Nebraska back in those days, you got your hands
on the tickets, actually the hard tickets. So when you
played away, when the bus rolled up at the hotel
and you got off, there were the guys buying the
tickets right off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're right there, and no one has thought of the
ib it. I mean, that's just the way it was.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You didn't feel guilty at all. It's not legal. I
don't think it's the right you're.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't know. I think you want more Cyclone fans
in the crowd. I think he was selling them too.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's probably true.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I forgot it, Bruce me.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I mean, good god, you know, don't let the players
make any back then that was.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Now look what they've made. Well, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're doing very well. Uh, let's do some bonus bucks, gardsy,
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Say that?
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Speaker 3 (11:27):
Mason, your face is back with us in studio for
the hour. Kessler will follow the top five at five.
Mason's even broad guests. This is what he does. Occasionally
he surprises us guards you with a guest. Don't we
know that's Mace Though he's he's always been a man
of the people.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What do you think of my guests?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Very nice, very nice, and surprisingly kind to me, which
is not always the case with.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Might accompany you, She.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Said to me, I listened to radio at dan Burrow.
Seems like a real nice guy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh boy, if you only knew, No judge, she sounds objective. Yeah,
you're not objective, that's your problem. What was the the
the yarn you wanted to spin? Was it Iowa Iowa
state related? Oh yeah, let's get let's introduce that and
then we can get to that place. So the the
(12:24):
the I guess development in the Brian Kelly story is
that now we're hearing that LSU was saying, well, we're
gonna we don't want to have to give you that
big buyout, so we're going to fire you. We think
we can fire you with cause because allegedly there were
some out of contract settlement proposals they offered that weren't
for the total amount. The Kelly people aren't going for it,
(12:45):
and they're saying, well, we're gonna be able to fire
you with cause. I don't know how that's going to
be possible. There's guardian I said, faking a Southern accent.
Is that firing for cause? I'm not sure that enough?
Is that fraud?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, but here's what happens.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, so ill As you said, well, you know we're
gonna fire you with cause, and the other side well,
and then Elisil says, well, you know we're not paying
our legal family tax papers are well, we'll tie this
up for litigation forever. And then they come along said,
I'll tell you what you don't want to do. We
owe you to a settlemore. We'll give you twenty and
call it a day and you know what I mean,
(13:20):
Sure does he do what it does, but you know
what it reminds me. And I got to tell you.
Maybe i've told this story before, I'm want to tell
you because it's appropriate. When I was an assistant coach
at Iowa State back in the mid seventies, guy named
lu mccullor was the athletic director.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
He made my position coach at the high State.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So one day it takes me to lunch and he says,
you know, I'm gonna give you a little advice. He said,
I got a sneak in suspicion you're going to be
a head coach someday. And he said, when you become
a hate coach, make sure you have a screw you file.
I said, oh, what, you know what that is? I said,
I have no idea. He said, let me tell you.
If you're a hate coach long enough, one of these
days they're going to fire you. And not only you're
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going to fire you, they're going to say we're not
going to pay you. So when they say screw you,
you say no, no, screw you, and you bring out
your file. It has all the dirt on them. I
never forgot that. So years later I get hired at
Kent State. After I get the job, Paul Amidillo was
the athletic director. Right told him that story, just like
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I'm telling you verbatim. A couple of years later, I
went to Kansas and Bob Frederick was the AD told
them that story. Verbatim came to Minnesota after I had
the job. I told Mark Deanhart that story. Then I
told tom O that story, and then I told Joel
Maturi that story.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And sure enough, one day I get a phone call,
phone call, and not in person phone call. I was
ten miles away.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Come on, that's a long traffic was happy that day?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah it was a Sunday, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
But anyway, So anyway, mister Butruri tells me that they
made a decision to change the leadership. I said, what
are you not and he said, we change the leadershi
football program. I said, you mean I'm fired and he said, well,
I wouldn't put it that way.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I said, well how would you put it?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And I said, listen, I wish we had that recorded.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I said, I'm you know, I am a big guy,
and how this works. I don't agree with it. But
that's the way it is. However, I said, you know,
I have LP held my end of the bargain. I
expect the University of Minnesota pope, they're into the bargain.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And he goes, what do you mean.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I said, I expect to get paid every penny that's
coming to me. He said, I don't think that'll be
a problem. And I said, I don't want to hear that.
I want to guarantee from you that that's going to happen.
He said, well, I can't give you that guarantee. And
I said, Joel, don't worry. Don't forget about my screw
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you file. He said, is that a threat? I said, oh,
just a reminder. I got everything within a week.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Senior fight.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I have the most important follow up question. How thick
was that screw you file? And if you saved it,
is it in do you still have it in the
bank vault?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Fullest? Well, full disclosure? I never had a file in
your face. You bluffed it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I bluffed it, yep, good poker play. Yeah, but it worked.
You got every penny.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
But let me just tell you a full disclosure and
get your TV now, A full disclosure. If I'd got
my money. I made up a lot of stuff and
put it in that fold. And I'll tell you that.
I'll tell you is my mace.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In your face.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We're gonna get you. We still gotta get you that TV.
By the way, this is from Ames Iowa guy, which
years was Mason and Ames What what is his go
to at Hickory Park and Great Plain Sauce and Doe.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
In fact, that place hit the Hickory Park. That's the
place where Luke mccolla told me that story. Really yeah,
I forget what, but I tell you I I aice
to go there all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I was.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I mean think I was there in uh seventy six
and seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yep, seventy six said this is from Matt out of
the East Metro. I've got a mace in your face story.
Fall of ninety nine. I was a second year MBA
at Carlson six of us, rented an RV and went
to the Sun Bowl against Oregon. Yes, we chose to
spend the Turn of the Millennium in El Paso. I was, yeah,
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I was there, got sick. We had a couple and
then went to watch We had a couple and then
went to watch the Glenn Mason Show hosted by Mike Max.
We were well behaved while the camera was on, but
we were definitely we definitely tried to crack Mace up
during the breaks. A couple of weeks later, one of
the guys not me had an internship with the Athletic Department.
He passed Mace and in Beerman. Mace got a couple
(17:52):
of steps pasted him, stopped and said, you were one
of those guys in El Paso. Thanks for not ruining
my show. Any re election to that? Well, you know so,
you've had so many, I mean moments like that you
probably don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I kind of remember that.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wish they I wish they would actually cause trouble
during the show, just to get you going.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Why would you? Why would you wish that? I can't
help myself.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'm a rabble rouser. You know that.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Now here's the difference. Let me go back to Brian Kelly. Yeah,
here's the difference. Down South SEC. You know, in the
old days, they used to fire these guys because they
got caught cheating. Yes, and they still pay them, and
they still pay them because they wanted them to keep
their mouths shut.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, but that stuff's still going on down there,
but it's legal that matter. Yeah, what is he going
to say, well, we're buying players?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, you can't buy a players even news they've lost
the leverage.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, that's very rud Does LSU.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Think this will help them get a big time coach
coming in?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, it's that's a very good question.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well you heard it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean the governor has basically said they fired the AD. Yeah,
they're claiming the LSU claim, as I understand it is
that the AD did't even have the right to fire them.
And that's why they are, I think adhering to the
notion that, well, we didn't fire you technically yet, and
so we're we're going to do it the way we
should have done it, the way the AD didn't fire
you with, cause that's at least what they're trying to do.
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I don't think it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Very They just don't. They just don't want to pay it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They want to pay the what's his buyout? Is it
fifty fifty fifty four million dollars? Yeah, it's hard to
know who to root for here, though, Mace. I got
to be honest with you, it's very difficult to root for.
Brian Kelly.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, no, what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not a
Brian Kelly guy. But I'm going to just tell you something.
Brian Kelly didn't put it under theseus. I mean how
many times that I've said these schools, and I'm not
begrudging anybody, but these schools, these ads and presidents and
border they've lost their mind. You know, the salaries they're
paying in an agreeing to a buyout of you know,
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fifty four. What is the guy at we looked at
at Georgia's one hundred million? Yeah, yeah, I mean are
they are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Who would agree to that?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Should I have beaten Organ? I mean they didn't well,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
They played a heck of a game. I mean you
look at certain play. Everybody wants to look at the
play at the end of the game. But obviously that
snap that went over the punter's head in the rain,
you know, the start off that way, uh, and then
I would battles back and they take the lead, and
they're because of their defense, you think, well, they're probably
in pretty good shape. Except all that I need is
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a field goal to beat That's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, if they're up by four, boom and with
that what's the quarterback's name?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
More namere.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
That throw that he made on third down and that
was well covered and I mean a great but a
great throw.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
At exactly the right time. So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Playing that, you would think that they're sick down in
Iowa City. They played well enough to beat Oregon, and
they played well enough to beat in the.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
End, that's true.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They've had two tough losses that way at home. I
would argue the Gophers Friday night, this is there the
third time. Why they've they've they've played a heavyweight opponent
this year because I don't put Nebraska in that classification
they shouldn't be in. So they get killed by Ohio State.
Maybe that's expected. They're non competitive against Iowa. Can they
be competitive against Oregon? I mean, do you give them
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any chance to knock off the Ducks Friday night primetime?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Well, anything can happen, you know, if I was a
better I put money on it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Are they catching Oregon at the right time? You know,
you know, possibly?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I mean they're playing early and they played at on
the road away in Kennick Stadium in a tough, tough ballgame.
Is it easier to come back from a tough ball
game or an easy win? The thing about it, you know,
you get battle hard, you know, if it becomes rue
your most game. And that's what I talked about Indiana.
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Now they've in a couple of close games. Uh, they
know how to act when the all the pressure is
on them, and they they believe that it's happening. But uh,
I think that's that's Uh, that's tough duty for the
the golfers going out there playing on the West coast,
playing Oregon, who's a good football team.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Think about Oregon everything they do, they run the ball, well,
they've got a good offensive line. I was really you know,
to run the ball the way they did against Iowa.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Let me ask you, if you had an offense that
was averaging five point six yards of carry on the ground,
would you hand the ball off more than like twelve times?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? Who are you talking to? Koc No? Who are
you talking? Yeah, you know it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't understand why he hates the Why does he
hate the run? Is it the thing? I want to look?
You know, I'm the quarterback whisper. So it's got what
is it you're doing that? But he used to be
what is PJ hate the pass? You remember when you
used to get up or some time about that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Because there's there's there's middle ground here. That's the problem.
The idea is you do what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Ain't it the idea say when I get done, you
can talk. Okay, I mean that's that's the way I'm
talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well that's okay, Oh I see so.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But my point being, listen, the idea is to control
the ball, move the ball and score points.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I mean, do what you do there.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know that one of the big problems that I have,
and we talked about it the Michigan State game. Yes,
you know it's you're struggling. You're not a good football team.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You know it's second and one. Don't be a g
run you know, think well, I can get.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
A yard in two tries and then keep the ball
and do what you But you know, one of the
problems that I have at all levels.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
When I see guys on the sideline and they're looking
at that play sheet, I'm thinking, what are you looking at?
It's not that complicated. How many plays do you have a.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Lot in pros have the sheets sheets taller than the person.
Why you're trying to improve is trying to impress people.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, come on, I.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Mean I very sophisticated game now, mate.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I love when you hear John Gruden and he starts
with those clips on there when he's doing the play call.
You know, well, I'm gonna tell you if you have
to name what every player is doing there, and then
that's smart enough to learn the plays, why don't you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Just call it forty two right the game?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm just telling you, I just worry that if you're
looking in that sheet all the time, you're you're missing
what's out out there.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
On the field. That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And I you know, hold on one second. You see
the JJ McCarthy news A sure did yeah limited in
practice today with a hand injury right hand?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes, he heard it.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He claims he hit his hand on a Ravens player's
helmet on the throat of the end zone for JJ,
the one that JJ probably should have caught. When asked
of it affected him, he said, if you slam your
hand in a car door, it's going to feel different.
But there's no excuse. We're warriors and you just got
(25:27):
to push through another injury for JJ. That's crazy, right,
I'm just saying. I just did say today.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
He said today that if if it was like tomorrow,
like he expects him back tomorrow on no problem, Like,
it wouldn't even been a thing if it was another day.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, I'll let's see. You never know what this develops into.
Let me ask you a question as a former coach,
and maybe you didn't concern yourself with these things, but
as a guy who I think I've gotten to know
a little bit regarding what you value when it comes
to a player performance, Would there be any part of
you if you're the head coach and not something I
(26:04):
say you would say out loud, but that internally you'd go.
You know, I like my quarterback a lot. I like JJ.
I like what he represents, what he might become. I
don't it's I don't need stuff about how he's got
this alter ego and he calls himself nine on game day.
I don't just go play, Just go play? So would
(26:27):
that bug you at all?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Is a guy that would yeah? Yeah, uh, you know
I come from a different era. You know you might
say old school dinosaur or whatever, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Unfortunately, but.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
My friend Gary Homan, who you've been in here, Yeah,
of course he jokes about all the time he's been
around me. When he would hear me say to a player,
why don't you just shut up?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Be a little and a little bit more demonstrative than.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That, you know, yes, yes, in fact, he l's One
time he was in Chicago at media Day and I
was sitting at one table, and I'll tell you what
it was. Daryl Reeve was sitting at the other table,
and as I was listening to him, and I had
to turn around and everybody in front.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Of everybody and tell him shut up. You know it
just that was a challenge. Daryl could talk. Well, he
shut up for us.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Oh yeah, sure, yeah, but yeah, I mean something, it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Just wait a while, I mean, just develop, you know,
I'd say, just just show show a body of work.
Because I like him as a player. I think he's
still got to I think he's got a chance to
be really good. He's been very in No well yeah, JJ,
but you know on Manna, you know, because isn't it
true that everybody has to every football player has to
(27:47):
have an alter ego. On game day Saturday Sunday, the
game's crazy, the game is barbaric. You have to be
different on that day than any other day. Right by definition,
it's a brutal game. You know, it's not meant for everybody, No,
it really isn't. And but there's a lot of different
characters out there, that's true. Some guys don't say a word,
(28:07):
and then other guys they're just they go NonStop.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But the but at the end of the day, it's
how you play, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And the thing about it when you can when you
do all the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If you're backing up the way you're playing, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
True, it's okay, that's okay. But you're one of those guys,
you know what I talk about all the time. It
cracks me up when I'm watching again at any level,
especially pro football, when all of a sudden a guy
will make a sack and you'll have to run to
the middle field and do a dance.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And there's two minutes left in the fourth quarter and
you're down by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
What are you doing? You look like you know.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, I mentioned there was a bare defensive Lineman two
games ago, who caused who sacked the QB and was
so busy celebrating he didn't notice that the QB fumbled
the ball during the sack. That's a problem. It's like
you got to play the play the rest of the
play at least, and that was in a closer game.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But that's the same issue. He had a plant, you know,
the whole week. He is, Yeah, that's true. I sack
a guy. Here's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Question, So you didn't really are you picking the upset
Gophers over?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, no, no, you're going I'm not doing that. Okay, Well,
what's what's the points for twenty five points?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think it is that?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
What it is?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is it that many points? Guardsy? What is the golpher?
I didn't realize it was that it's three touchdowns. It's
three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, that's gone. I might be tempted to take the Gophers.
I don't expec I don't think they're gonna win, but man,
that's a lot of points.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
A lot of twenty five and a half points, five
and twenty half and a half. That's that's considerable. When
was the last time we've been we'll probably go state.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Probably. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
That's a lot of you know, that's that's hard. That's
hard to pick.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Now, if I was a gambler, if I don't believe
even the govers, I ain't bet in Oregon.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's too many points.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, that's probably.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean out there, you don't know, they range all
the time. Yeah, correct, Maybe the duck doesn't feel good.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I don't know the question for Mace, is Wisconsin really
just a healthy, starter caliber quarterback away from becoming a
competitive team.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You know, I haven't seen him play. To be honest
with you, I know that everybody's upset. I know they've
had some injuries. A couple of young linebackers are playing
now that they're really excited about, and they haven't been
able to play the quarterback right that they want they
wanted to play. You know, I don't know the thing
about it is, if you still have Wisconsin on the schedule,
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you don't like to.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
See them win the way they did against Washington. Does
that bring them together? Did that give you confidence? Does
that give them the little juice that's going And you
talk about Washington, you talk about problems.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
How about Jed Fish their coach. The whole word out there.
He wants out, he wants to leave. He's not happy.
His wife hate Seattle. Supposedly she don't want to she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Set well, you should go, I should move there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
She doesn't want to raise her kids there. She's moved
back to Arizona. I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But it's all your guys all over the internet, isn't
he wasn't he your guy?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
My guy?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
He was here with.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
That's not very fact with fiction though, going his wife
and kids moved out.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I don't know if it's true or not. Yeah, that's true.
What I glossed over that two weeks Maggie's And why
is that copy? This is the radio. I'm just I'm
playing you now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I know I get blamed eventide on this one. Yeah,
I can't win because then I'll still be blamed, even
though I didn't say okay, welly, all right, mister computer
and behind the glass you check everything I say, check
it out, get it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
On the computer.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I just can't believe you would say something. I don't
know if it's true or not. That's a pretty big
thing to say. Well, I qualify at least other people
talk like they know. It's the fact that it's not.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, yeah, it's I'll google's. I'm curious though about that
Seattle opinion.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let me tell you this has been around for about
two weeks. That's why.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You know, sometimes on the internet, half the stuff you
see you can't believe. But the other end of that,
if there's enough smoke, there's probably fire someplace.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, that's off in the case.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
What's so the family, his wife and kids remained in Arizona.
They didn't move to Washington because they.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Want to Wait, he's been there how many years? This
is his second year? Okay, Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
That happens finish high school in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You can't blame him for that. I heard it.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
One of the problems is his name, because he's jet
Fish and he's never lived anywhere for more than ten minutes.
Has popped up in some other some other coaching caps.
That doesn't make him a bad person, but they're questioning
his roots because his roots aren't even there.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So for jet Fish siding with me, yeah, I mean, Jed,
it's his choice. If he wants to change jobs every
fifteen minutes, you can say that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm just it sounds like you're in that and it
sounds like guards. He's ripping though.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
He has a sixteen year old who's been in five
different schools in the last eight years. He wants to
let her finish or what's wrong with that? That's a
good family matter. Maybe maybe there's.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
A thought about this before they moved five times a career.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's too good. It's unbelievable what I have. I had
another text for you.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I'll tell you what. I'll save him. Let's stay on
schedule a break here. I got a couple of other
things to get I got a math problem for you
to discuss. Maybe we'll talk about some other national stuff
and anything else that's stuck in Mace.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You got one left, oh, I got one? Good hold
on to that.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
We'll come back with that and then Top five, followed
by Pat Kessler, Mace, I need your help on one story.
What did exactly the Michigan's they get caught doing and
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what's the punishment?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, they had to vacate all their wins for three years.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Three years.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, I think it was. I think it must have
been recruiting violations or something. But the irony of it.
I found out about it on Instagram and Michigan Gold
Blue or um whatever it may be, is there and uh,
and they were howling about it that they had to
(34:29):
vacate all their wins and there's signs stealing.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
They didn't vacate anything that one did. That one thing.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I wonder why, you know, we used to joke all
the time, you know, when I was at Ohio State
and we played by the rules, we say, but we
used to joke. We ever get caught doing anything bad, probaya,
they'll put Cleveland State up provacon. You know this.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
So to answer both questions, this is the Mel Tucker era.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You remember.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
The sexual harassment stuff a few years ago. And so
they used three ineligible players that weren't eligible for some reason,
but they used them in the game. And the theory
is Michigan State, going back to the Brian Kelly thing,
wants to continue. I don't think the mel Tucker thing
has been settled. They want to fire mel Tucker for cause,
(35:21):
for cause, We're back to that, okay, and not pay
him I think a ninety million dollars by at US.
So they were actually welcoming these charges and they did
not fight these Yeah, they did not fight these like
Michigan fought the Connor Stallion stuff. They did not fight
these as vociferously.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Do we know where Connor Stallions is these days? I
thought I saw a tweet from him the other day
about something.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
He was, I think at a high school doing some coaching.
High school coaching. Yeah, but you know you talk about
the NC double A. Yes, which favorite thing? Did you see?
They just settled for three hundred and three million dollars
you have to pay out a term they volunteer coaches.
There was a in some sports.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't think football are and they've already had to
settle in sport of baseball. I don't think football and
basketball had it a volunteer coach and the rule was
they couldn't get paid. So it's like, no, you can't
do that. You can't restrict earnings, you know, by somebody.
And what amazing do you remember? Back in the nineties
(36:20):
they lost a big lawsuit because basketball had a position
called a restricted earning coach. Yeah, and they lost it,
and I was for even more money than this. I
think you think they would have learned their lesson. You know,
you wonder who is making the decisions? Don't they have
a lot of lawyers there. They do not very good obviously.
(36:41):
I mean they just pay that money out, They make nothing.
They just spend other people's money.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Well, I you know, we've we talked about the betting thing.
Is it that the ncluble allowing college kids to bet
on pro sports? Is it that their lawyers are telling
we would lose the case in court? And I say, well,
then get better lawyer. I mean, it doesn't seem like
they a has very good lawyer.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Lawyers.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
They they're they're not doing very well when things go
to court, other than you know, big settlements.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I don't buy that because they got all kinds of rules, right,
you know, they just have bad rules.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean they're getting nailed on this when it
comes to money. You know, uh, they were making money
all started with.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That EA sports right off a kid's name.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
How do you how do you use your your the
kid's name and all this stuff and you're making lots
of money off it and they don't get a piece
of the action. Well that's not right. But on this deal,
I don't know. I don't know if it's league number
to me, why I can't I can't understand what positive
thing comes out of saying it's okay, go ahead and
(37:50):
bet all the odds against you, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
The disasters in the waiting and in the making. I
guess I should say that's very true. Interestingly, this is
from five oh seven. Guy, What size was that TV
that Mace never got back? I think I could masge
to swing that for Mace and his commitment to the show.
Somebody's got of off of your TV. So what do
you remember the size that you in your office?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I think it was about eighty one.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yes, yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. I'm guessing
it was like like a postage stamp back in the.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Day, right, it went very big. Maybe it ended up
with a new flat screen. It seems interested it wasn't. No.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I went just say, before you get too far. Yeah,
you always say something, what's been bugging you?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What's been?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
What's I'm just not a sport guy. I'm gonna and
at it. We know that.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
On other day, I was downtown, now listen, downtown what
downtown many hous Okay, and I stopped to get a
cup of coffees.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I walked in place. It was crowded, looked like a
nice place.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Cut the coffee, and I proceeded to pay for it
with money cash.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Why cash? And they said, we don't take it. I
don't blame him. Why it's legal tender. And I said,
wait a minute, get your card out. I didn't have
a card with me. He didn't, so, I mean, you know,
so they literally they only that's that's wrong. Did they
did you get to keep the coffee? Did they let you?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
They say, we're gonna little give you this one.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I sat down and started crying and let me keep it.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Sympathy vote really though, Well, there are some places like that.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Cash a lot of places. I don't carry any cash. Cash,
So do you carry a lot of You don't because
you never want to buy I understand how much on.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
An average mace in your faverage mace day? How much
do you have in your pocket? A couple couple hundred?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Okay, don't you say that people are going to be
that's old that's old school, because I don't think most
people do that.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't guards you do carry any cash.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I carry no cat I carry maybe twenty bucks like
in my bag.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I didn't carry that. That's when you used to get
a clipping guy.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
You you guys don't tip. No, it's easy on the
She's never been easier. Now you get.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
The door for you, you don't tip him.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Parking Why do you think we're valet parking? I mean
we're not like you. We're normal people to just park
our own cars. We're happy to park our own cars
in a walk. We don't need a guy driving the vehicle.
I'm probably riding my bike.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
If you go to a restaurant and get the bill,
you don't think that that waiter doesn't rather have the cash.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Give him the cash, you know, do I don't think
any more of that matters.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's it, sure does? Okay? Ask him? So you never
pay with a credit card.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I didn't say, I'm just saying if you go to
pay for cash, they should take the cakes.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You can still tend with cash. It's legal tender.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Dan Insiders tell me that Pam Borton got Mace's TV
and took it when she got can that's Mike and
would Berry. Pam Borton ended up. God, I can't believe
it's the TV where she Now? How did you and
Chris Voles get along? By the way, well, Chris doing
this with two minutes.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Left, Chris Balls was the women's ad when my first game,
there was two separate departments, you know, I you know,
we were cordially, we didn't have much interaction, you know,
you know, kind of cordially. I mean, I was all
for women's sports. Now, some of the things that she
would bring up, so, and I'm serious. I remember from
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the time she used the word shiro hiro nexus.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I really I didn't know what it meant.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I didn't And and it's a female hero, female hero.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Shiro a shiro.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know, well, I can't hear. I thought a hero
could be a man.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Or a woman. I never thought he's wrong hero shiro. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
So I was dying to ask her what do you
call a manhole cover? But I didn't want to do that.
I thought there there might be something creative.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Man. You can't let you.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Where is Chris Falls, by the way, these days she
lives in California.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, I said this during the break. She despised roycey
in me more than you did. That's that's what that
should have been, the unifying That's why they got a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But that was that was a very redeeming quality. That's
still so good. She was very smart on that, on
that front.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Out in the boonies in southwestern Minnesota. They don't take cards.
I'm with Mace.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I'm gonna tell you what about credit cards?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And it's un America. It's Unamerica.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
You should I'm not against credit card, but I'm saying
if you don't think when you if you don't think
that right away, right off the top, when they're paying
that three percent credit card, they know everybody. If they're
not going to raise that product to have the consumer
take care of it, you're you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Tell Mace he can use his phone to pay. He
needs to learn Apple pay.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
He used to have credit card? You still going to
put a credit to carry.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
The follow it?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And when you when you used to go to the
now gone Starbucks and Wysetta Downtown Wayseetta one, did you
pay cash or credit cash all the time?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Have servers and bartenders definitely prefer cash tips because they
do not accurate they do not accurately claimed them on
their taxes.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So I guess you're right, that's not the ethical Mase.
I know, well, you wouldn't want to be a party
to that.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Wait a minute, no, no, not paying taxes for these
people like that we paid too much tax as it is?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Do you think so? Why do you think Louis last?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You know in nineteen we didn't have income tax in
this country until nineteen thirteen, you know, I'm going to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And it was supposed to.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Be a temporary didn't have roads if it was up,
there's a lot didn't have there.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Nineteen it's supposed to be a temporary thing. Well then
it be. It was only supposed to be schools or police.
You'll be quiet. It was only for the top one percent.
Here's the thing. Only top one percent paid that. And
then they said, oh no, we got to get everybody.
Oh that's the top one percent.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
And then we got to say sales tax, Oh you
buy a home TAXI.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know what. No one's wan you to live here.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
You can move to you can go to Texas, you
can move to Florida.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No state income tax in in Texas. Is there one
in Florida? I don't think there is there either?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Is that Florida? Texas? I think Tennessee doesn't have you
love traveling, Maybe maybe it's time for you to maybe
And that's what Louis did. Yeah, that's Louis. Why do
you think Louis got his residence in all.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Mister, mister Minnesota. Come on, you can't accuse them of that.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, come on, Yeah, that the cat's out of the
bag of that one. All right, we gotta go anything
else before we go like that's it because we're out
of We're late, and Kessler's time is being effective.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
You would win in the may or may oral race
and Wiseta with your no tax on in Minneapolis, Minneapolis,
you'd be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
In trouble. Yeah, you'd be very, very gold water in Minneapolis,
but you'd be prefect.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I'm just gonna tell you that there's a you know,
Oklahoma plays Alabama at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's true, and you're picking the upset. I think this
is right. I'm not positive.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
I don't think that Alabama has ever been Oklahoma during
a regular season game.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Really, I think it's I'm not sure that's right.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Well, there's another one factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
What is it? I don't I'm not sure. Yeah, sure,
it threw it out there. I'm qualified it.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I'm only thirty eight and I pay cash half the time.
Mace is right. I thought tips aren't taxed anyway. What's
the difference that's true. They're not tipped anymore. Are they
are taxed anymore? I think that's all been.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Changed up till you make a certain amount of money.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Cash is legal tender if you have already have already
legally offered to pay, and therefore technically no longer have
to you no longer have.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
To see so they should have to give me that
coffee for free.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Late.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Let Mace cook be quiet, JG. Wow, Wow, all your
friends are going in today out they're texting in today.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
You know why.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I know, because people didn't know that there was an
income tact for nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You know you should still, he starts barking. You know
you should talk to about it.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Kesler, get kid Kesler on the tax stuff. Yeah, you know,
former political reporter Channel four for years.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah know it.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Now I'm going to look into nineteen thirteen and see
what else we're missing. You know what, we can go
back to time to bring back.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
The wig party.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
I think simpler times, you guys would carry to be
carried buggy instead of carry limo.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's what it would be if we went back to
your world, carry buggy.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
And we want to thank our good friends at Jack's
cafe as well, doing outstanding job sponsoring this segment.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
When I go to Jack's, I dip in cash.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, sure you do, but you don't tip, well I do.
I've heard you're not. What I've heard is you're not
a bad tipper, but you're an average tipper. You rarely
surprise anybody.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's what type of service. That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So I was told by I can't I can't reveal
my sources. I'm an a media member. You know that
I can't give up my sources.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I remember too.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah you are. You got your own sources. That's true,
and I'm ashamed of it.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You you actually revel in it. You can't get enough
of it. You wish you would have done it sooner.
That's the truth of it. Getting some head nods on that,
by the way, from the Peanut Gallery, just saying so
verbal confirmation, confirmation. We gotta go, all right, coming in
next week, I'll be here again. That's gonna be three
straight weeks, I think, or is it four?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Maybe four?
Speaker 3 (47:10):
When when's the return to Fargo to the studios there?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't know when you go to the studio again?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Okay, but they know you well there too, obviously. Yeah,
you're you become a fixture.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I'm gonna say, I get treated the way I should.
You have a cup of coffee for me, so long coffee.
They treat me with respect that it's unbelievable. Yeah here,
not so much, thanks mace.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Uh let's pause top five vikings into report, which shockingly
includes the quarterback
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