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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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think we're going the distance tonight, right three and a half.
There's no hockey tonight. There's no hoopside, is there? Unless
I'm forgetting about Gold to Go for men's basketball. Believer
Golden Distance, the Distance. Been a while since we've gone
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the distance on this program. You already heard from Brett
Blake Moore is in for Guardzie, who is tracking Gold
to Go for women's basketball. I think they're playing at
the University of Kansas or is it? Is it University
of Kansas or KU? I can't remember. Is it Kansas
University or the University of Kansas. Looks like Kansas the Jayhawks,
But I mean, where's the you part go in front
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of them? Because like Indiana University is Indiana University, it's
not the University of Indiana. University of Minnesota is University
of Minnesota. It's not Minnesota University, right Kansas. I can't remember. Well,
it is ku fair enough. So guards he's out today,
he's out tomorrow, and then he's out Friday. Tracking goal
to Gopher football headed to Chicago for a big showdown
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against Northwestern on Saturday at Wrigley Field. I wonder if
there we have anybody in our audience. I'm not even
sure you have to be a massive Gophers fan to
say weekend in Chicago and a football game at Wrigley Yeah,
I'll raise my hand for that. I bet you there's
got to be a few people who may have planned
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that sometime ago. It seems like it could be a very
good opportunity. I've never seen football. Well, you know what,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have seen. This is how old I am.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I saw football a football game at Wrigley Field in
the mid sixties because once upon a time, of course,
before they went to Soldier Field, that's where the Bears played.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I have seen football a Wally Field, and I must.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Tell you it may have been the worst vantage point
from which I ever saw a game in person. It
was a seat and I'm talking about like card table
chair kind of a seat on the field, which sounds good,
but it really wasn't because there were a couple rows
in front of me and it was almost like we
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were on a hill going down towards the Cubs dugout.
So I don't know if I can even tell you
how much of the game I actually saw from that
vantage point. I think the seats have improved there, the
site lines have improved there as well, and we can
only hope that the Golden Gophers can get it done
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to go to a meaningless bowl game as they are
wont to do. I'm the former Instate and Retch newspaper
the Twin Cities. My name is Dan Barrero. Good program today.
Kevin Seafert not in studio, but he will join by
telephone beginning at four fifteen today, and I think Luigi
is scheduled for five point thirty. Do you have confirmation
on Louis? I don't, but I'll you reach out. You
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expect it to get done. The branch on Brian cafean
text line is open at six four six eight six,
that is six four six eight six, and the texts
are already coming in and we love them and we
can't get enough of them as well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What year were you born? Ninety six? So you would
have been, Well, you're.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You're probably a bad test case because you didn't even
you didn't even grow up at any point a Vikings fan. Correct, No,
there was nothing in there, even though you grew up here, right,
I grew up in Iowa. Oh that's right, you grew
up in Iowa. So when did you move here six
almost seven years ago? You're definitely not one of us.
I thought you went a little further back than that.
That's interesting. I mean I came up here all the
time for yeah, sure, sure, not so much for Vikings games,
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screen and Golder plan.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So you may be a bad test case. I bet you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
We've got how many kids in our audience remember the
two thousand season for the Minnesota Vikings. If you're old enough,
I'm sure you remember it well. But if you're a kid,
you might not have much recollection of it. And you
may say, Dan, why are you waxing nostalgic about two
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thousand Minnesota Vikings football season?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
By the way, they did end in.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
What we say in the business calamity forty one donut
loss in the NFC title game to the New York Giants,
a game that shall live in Minnesota Vikings infamy. Well,
I think there is some relevance though, which we touched
on yesterday in our conversation, our wide ranging, free wheeling
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conversation with Chris Carter, who joined us between five and
about five forty.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I just took it about as long as I could.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I wanted to go longer, but we're gonna run out
of time because we were out at six fifteen. And
what makes it relevant is that year two thousand, the
Vikings handed the keys to a young quarterback in his
second year. Year one, he basically sat. I think he
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got in briefly one game in ninety nine, but basically
the Vikings sat and they handed him the keys. In
two thousand, we're going with the kid. We're going with
Dante Culpepper. And I know this is going to be
painful for the mac bobos, who are very very sensitive
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right now. The Undies are in a bunch. They're in
a twist, There's no question about that. And by the way,
I'll mention again, I endorsed the McCarthy signing, or should
say drafting, still thinking he's got a chance to be
a damn good quarterback. But I'm also I think pretty
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intent on following the story and paying attention to what's
in front of me.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is even Chris Carter said yesterday, it's a.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Results oriented league no matter what season in your history
you are. They play the games, they record the games,
You watch the games. You get to react to what
you see. And I'm wondering if the mc bobos, if
any of them have spent any time, well, I know
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they haven't tracking.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Dante Culpepper's first season as.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
A highly touted but not as highly touted as JJ
McCarthy quarterback coming out of college. For the season, he
played in all sixteen games. He completed sixty two points
seven percent of his passes, which is not very good
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today then was considered okay, But he threw four thirty
three touchdowns and sixteen picks, and he threw for almost
four thousand yards in his first year, three thousand, nine
hundred and thirty seven yards. His quarterback rating his first year,
you know when what it takes everybody forever to figure
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the whole thing out. His first year with no experience
the year before, none old fashioned quarterback rating was ninety
eight point zero. Ninety eight point zero, that is a
few points ahead of JJ. Early JJ is at sixty
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one point seven JJ in five games, has half as
many interceptions as Dante Culpepper finished that season playing sixteen games.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You can do the math on that as well.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then we have the people go, what did you
do in his first few games? I have those two.
If you want, we can do the game log approach.
Dante's first game a thrilling thirty to twenty seven victory
over the Bears. In fact, I think that matchup, the
Bears had a left handed quarterback whose name I think
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was Cade McNown Will you double check the name? What
was the name of the Bears quarterback in the year?
Is it Caate mcown?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Mcnow okay. He's a lefty, so.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
As a battle against young quarterbacks, and Dante was in
his first game thirteen for twenty three hundred and ninety.
He did throw a pick, also ran thirteen times for
seventy three yards. If you have ever seen Dante play,
he's enormous. He was a giant of a guy six',
five built like a. Linebacker he went about two forty
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and he could. Move Dante culpepper before injury could bleep and.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Move second game of his career.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Twenty three for thirty seven three hundred and fifty five
yards and another thirty seven yards, rushing one, touchdown three
picks so he could throw a pick his third game
on the road At New england nineteen for twenty eight
one seventy, seven two, touchdowns one, pick also rushed twelve
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times for fifty nine. YARDS i think of those sorts numbers,
early and by the, way The vikings that, year With
dante as their starting, quarterback began the season six and
zero before they lost their first game six and. Zero
i'm thinking to, myself can you imagine IF jj had
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started with those kinds of numbers what folks would be.
Doing but there is a lesson, here a message that
just because you want to scratch the itch of, well
let me. Compare i'll pick the, Quarterbacks i'll compare them
to And i'm going to find quarterbacks who were awful.
Originally we can play that, game And i'm playing it.
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Today but how about if we it's not quite as
much fun if we pick another quarterback with, nowhere no
no more experience as a pro quarterback who in its
first year never looked at any point as in over
his head AS jj has through most of his the
start of his first season as the big time. Quarterback
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so be careful assuming that because you get to choose
conveniently the ones you want to pick to make your
case better that, well look a look at the guy In.
Buffalo look how he. Started we can all the moral
of the. Story we can all find people to make
whatever our our argument. Is and in this, case this
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was A vikings. Quarterback AND i have to ADMIT i
forgot just how composed and unintimidated and as adult a
quarterback he looked in that first.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Year AND i eventually had.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
To apologize BECAUSE i wanted The vikings for that draft
to pick what was the name Of it was a
pass rushing demon that ended up going to The Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Titans the name will come to me in a.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Minute and The vikings needed an outside pass rusher and
they instead.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Took, Dante.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And in the short, RUN i thought it was a
bad move BECAUSE i, thought, well this team's ready to
make a run if they have another edge. Rusher but
it was hard to argue once you started Seeing dante
play that The, vikings because quarterback is such an important,
position that they made the right move With.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Dante, now what happened To dante.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Is he became a little more inconsistent and he got
hurt because he even had a better year than year
one his second year in the, league but year one
as a starting.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Quarterback and.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It should be BECAUSE i don't know why this, is
but we talk all the time about we used The
Christian ponder, comparison.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But we never used The dante.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
One the whole idea On dante was we need a
Franch The vikings need a franchise quarterback because Under debdy
they'd used, Everybody Sean, salisbury our, Guy Rich, Gannon jim,
McMahon Jeff.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
George they through that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Same phase that The vikings have been, through and by the,
way had some success with those, quarterbacks or at least
enough to keep themselves in the.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Mix so.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
History may be repeating, itself but it goes back to, then,
certainly and The dante story is a reminder that there's
no no young quarterback is obligated to play badly in
his first. Year you could, say, well the league was
different THEN i would argue that the league is actually
set up for greater passing for quarterback success now than
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it was then because it wasn't as much of a
considered as much of a passing league at that point
as it would. Become but be careful on who you,
pick and just remember we all can play the game
of who we want to compare him. To and from day,
one there was nothing in The dante resume that even
comes close To and the head coach did it again.
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Today he did it again. Today let me see IF
i can find. IT i saved. It one Thing vikings
fans can look for when he gets to the top
of his.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Drops we're really.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Trying to see if we can get him to be
a little bit more in a repeatable body. Position, Now
i'm not saying that's not, true BUT i am again
here to say that doesn't do his quarterback any. Favors
that sounds like he's talking about a middle school, quarterback
a junior high. Quarterback we got to keep telling, him,
now more repeatable body. POSITION i don't think that came
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up With Dante culpepper in the exact same position.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Many many years. Ago well now what twenty five years?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Ago THAT jj McCarthy is, right now we may go
let's go to twenty seven and then we'll catch. Up
bratchaw On Brian cafe in text line is open six four,
six six four six eight, seven six eighty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Six what AM i talking? ABOUT i don't.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Know want to put a seven on, there and they're,
already AS i, said kind of pouring. In there's not
any question that The vikings have no choice but to
continue to continue to PLAY. JJ i don't think Playing
brozemer makes any. SENSE i know it's a great. Angle,
LOCALLY i Like, BROZMER I i. Don't i'm not SURE
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i invested In brownstones to the degree That guards he,
did BUT i liked him as a.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Gopher we lauded.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Him we lotted The vikings decision to bring him in
to take a look at, him and we were not
surprised when he made the. Roster he seems to have
a little. Something but let's be clear about something at this.
Point the rest of this, year especially if the team
is going to fade into non playoff, obscurity has to
be about finding out whether this is the, guy or
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you see enough from this guy to think we can
continue to invest in the. Guy BECAUSE i will tell
you that if you don't see a certain amount of
measure of, improvement THEN i think you have to open
the door to any number of possibilities for next, year
including bringing in somebody else to contend for the job
or at least have a chance To vuye for the.
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Job but there's no doubt and Maybe brosem or even
plays better for a. Game this team has invested everything
into the concept OF jj McCarthy being the, guy and
so you can't suddenly deviate from that on the basis
of what we have seen to this, point which at
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times has been quite. Alarming Historic, again we've laid out
some of these numbers before that even by young quarterback
standards go to another level in terms of accuracy what
he has, done not always by the way against, pressure.
Etc you have to continue to find, out have to
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let him play through it if he at all. Can
but you're also, allowed even if you've invested in him
to the, degree you have to evaluate and you got
to have by the end of this, season honest conversations
about we see.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Enough it's a bad.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Start we saw some things though as the season went
on that he started figuring. Out, therefore he's our guy
next year and we're going to go forward with. THAT
i agree With Chris carter at the very, least if
you're not going to bring somebody into compete next. Year
if he continues to, struggle then you have, to regardless
bring in somebody to be a veteran backup who's better
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than the veterans that The vikings have tended to use
to this. Point who that, IS i don't. Know it's
a lot of ways to look at, that but the
people that they brought in this offseason didn't make any.
Sense Carson wentz probably was an upgrade over who was
the guy we ended up trading the backup quarterback who
was terrible As Sam.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Howe Sam, Howell thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Somebody presumably and hopefully a little bit better than that
and a little bit healthier and a little less long
in the tooth.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Than Carson.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Wentz Maybe Jeff, george who, said you, Know Jeff george
probably still has a heck of an. Arm somebody's texting
why not Brosmer, well BECAUSE i think you still again
unless you see your soul alarmed by what you see this,
season and you're gonna open it up to maybe we
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got a we do have a young quarterback that we
can work, with but it's just NOT jj McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
To.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Me you're gonna give McCarthy more, time and that MEANS
i would still rather have somebody who's got a little
bit experienced more Than brosmer does at this. Point and,
again let's be clear about. Something If Max brosmer had
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not gone To university Of, minnesota of the people who
talk about, him wouldn't they wouldn't Be it's just as
simple as. That that's been way too much of the
if you, know if he just PLAYED i don't, know
cal came in as the, backup there wouldn't be this.
Interest now every time we have a backup we like most,
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towns the psychology is put in the backup because we've
not seen. Him we've seen the main guy make a
lot of. Mistakes we've seen no. War the backup quarterback
has no, warts right because all you do is project
the best of what he represents and you, go what
do you got to lose any the other.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Guy we've seen the other. GUY i don't like, It
let's bring him.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
In there would have to BE i think a pretty
significant revolution of thinking to go that. Route and that
would be the case whether it's here or any place.
Else given the positioning WHERE jj McCarthy was indeed drafted
by the way we talked about the fact That, bray
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after he did the game The vikings game On, sunday
was going to head To Malo hysteria to chronicle the
opening of His is it a card?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
STORE i can't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
REMEMBER i think it's a card store at The mall Of.
America D have you seen the video or the photos
from The brady. Appearance we didn't get into this yesterday
because we concentrated on the. Game, Obviously i've never SEEN i,
mean you know. What it reminded me of When Jimmy
butler was introduced To wolves fans at The, rotunda same,
Spot mall Of america and all three four five levels.
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Up however many levels up there, ARE i think it's.
Three all you could see was a sea of People.
Brady it was the same way it was jam Pat now,
again the mall may have been jam packed for other,
reasons but they were all interested enough to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
To.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
BRADY i guess about whatever he, said maybe somebody in
our audience, went if you did text us and did
you lose yourself in his? Eyes because it looked Like
minnesota lost itself In Tom brady's. Eyes can you make the,
argument as some, have that part of the reason the
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place was so packed is that folks realized this was
probably the closest they would ever come to being near
A Super bowl winning. Quarterback is that part of it
where we, go, well we're not going to get so
what let's he? Woned MAYBE i can touch the hem
of his, garment or at LEAST i can yell down to,
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him or whatever the case may. Be maybe that's. It
that's What brady, represents. Correct AND i don't even think
he talks. Call did he ever call himself? Twelve he's
got a LINE tb, twelve, right BUT i don't think
he ever called himself. Twelve maybe he, did AND i don't. Remember,
yeah here it. Is was there at the card Vau
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that was a. Zoo he left four, minutes five minutes
before we got in the store to get his autograph
from my.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Son waited in line. Forever damn. It that's. Rough that's.
TOUGH i think you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
GET i, Mean i'm a little Disappointed brady didn't stay for,
everybody aren't.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You isn't that the? Rule it'd still be? There well you,
Might you might be right about.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
There and he did bring up during the broadcast His
minnesota ties.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where his mother is. From what's the town is it? Called?
Browerville double checked.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
The town That Tom brady said he spent summers in
as a. Kid his mom is from this particular, town
and he talked about.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Fishing the whole. Bit. Browerville that's WHAT i called. It
AM i?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Wrong? Browerville is that? Correct that's What i've. Got that's
WHAT i, Got browerville, correct that's. It in, FACT i
think there was one time one year WHERE guardsi AND
i tried to find somebody from. There maybe we even
had somebody on who has some connection to The brady,
Family so maybe we adopt. Them maybe that's what we're
trying to do after the, fact is we to a certain,
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extent he's kind of one of us because of what
he all the time that he as a kid apparently
spent here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
In where Is?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Browerville can you tell? Us it's just north of The Sock,
Center that's What i'm. Seeing so you're on your way, up,
yeah to The Great. North i'm Disappointed brady was not
on sermons On. Sunday doesn't he know who you? Are
we efforted, it did you you've tried? Hard didn't you
Get brady tried your, best AND i think we kind
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of came probably came up. Empty fortunately.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He caught sunfish just like we, did says a. Text.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
THEY i mean a lot of PEOPLE i think already knew,
this but perhaps some. Didn't and they heard it flat
out during the, broadcast and you could tell they were.
Beaming there were people just beaming at his desire to
connect Himself Tom brady to the great state Of. Minnesota
think about it as good as it, gets isn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Him John? Madden there's all? One but he didn't win
the ball? Here, Correct, no they lost, That they lost
all and that was. Right, Yeah philly, Special let's do.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This let's pause bottom of the hour, break we'll get caught.
Up great guest lineup, Today seaffert on The purple at
four point fifteen And luigi to talk. Hockey how about
the red Hot minnesota while they've definitely heated up since
the last, time especially since the last Time Louis luigi
was on with. Us so that'll be part of the.
Conversation and really juicy if internet Generated wolve's trade rumor
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that we absolutely need to discuss as. Well no reason
to believe there's any truth to, it but kind of
fun at, least yet kind of fun to think about as.
Well so all of that and, more keep the text
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Speaker 3 (25:22):
Tickets there's an element to, circumstantial and there were some
opportunities that the way The bears were.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Playing the other.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Day you, KNOW i know a lot of folks want
more runs on some of those third and two to,
threes and they had seven players on the line of.
Scrimmage you, know we got six to block them unless
you're gonna magically get, it unless you're gonna magically create
another player or Ask Justin jefferson to go down there
and you, know, block you, know block one of those,
Guys Kevin byer the. Third then you've the only way
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to equalize those numbers out is to run your.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Quarterback many many teams in this league.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Do, hmm, Interesting maybe can't see podcasts the, show not exactly, sure, Huh,
yeah it can be a numbers, Game there's no question about.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That you don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Stubborn ALTHOUGH i think what some of the best teams
do is if they have enough faith in whatever they're
attempting to, do and they have a quarterback who is
as erratic as McCarthy has thrown, that they, go, oh
we might have to force it a little. Bit it's
two yards on third and two that you know what you.
Get if you get the two, yards you get a
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fresh set of, downs fresh set of. Downs we heard
that From Adam thielen. Yesterday we need more, plays so
you get them however you can get, THEM i said.
Yesterday THOUGH i have no complaints with how much we,
RAN i don't know what the final number. WAS i
really have no complaints with how much we. RAN i
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thought we ran at better times at the right. TIME
i know the irony is there are people bitter that
we didn't run more to drain the clock on that
last touchdown. Drive AND i got to tell, You i'll
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come to any play callers defense when it comes to that.
Nonsense you have to, score, right you just, yeah in
a perfect, world you leave four seconds on the, clock,
right because then you can kick the ball, deep but
you can't be that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Cute you have to.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Whatever if you end that drive with a, touchdown you
have succeeded the notion that organ then because then you
are asking to run to run now. Again the previous
touchdown to play drive after the long pot return two
runs worked very. Well so might you have included more
of that in the? MIX i guess that's. Possible but
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guess what you could have scored on the first running play,
too once you got down in scoring, positions so and
you you would have run the same. Problem i'm not
in the group that gets bitter with with with somebody
in terms of how they score a. Touchdown, YEAH i
think that's a little nonsensical and a little bit too
easy after the. Fact by the, Way Javon curse was
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the sack rushing edge rusher THAT i wanted The vikings
to draft The culpeper. Year will you double check what
number in round One culpeper? WENT i HAVE i think
it was, late first first, round was it? Not culpeper
was taking? Eleventh, oh not that, right not that? Late?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Eleventh, yeah eleventh picks went, sixteenth, yeah and And curse
was there and they needed a pass, rusher he would
have helped them big. Time but again it's hard to
argue with the quarterback. Position, now we were reminded one
Of dante's weaknesses with small.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Hands enormous.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Guy what are his dimensions listed at it in the
rock is six?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Five got out a six four sixty. Two, yeah he
was built like a.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Linebacker you know that whole bit about tacklers getting out
of the way because they didn't want to Tackle Adrian.
Peterson it wasn't that different With dante in his. Prime
he was alone. Man he was extremely strong and a terrific.
Runner but, yeah we used to kid about it small.
Hands he did have some fumbling, issues Did. Dante there's
(29:26):
no question about. That but he was at no point
during his rookie season was he as overwhelmed AS jj
McCarthy has been at almost every point through the first
four or five.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Games there's no question about.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
THAT koc doesn't podcast the show Because The Bumper Bumber
show is no longer.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Podcasted why what's that? About this is the new.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
System, yeah we're figuring stuff, out all, Right so we're
we're in. PROCESS i, mean this isn't. Permanent we're just
working through the kinks of a new. System is that the? Deal, yes,
okay we could say that. Publicly that's. Okay WE i,
mean we don't want people to get. Frustrated so we're.
Trying we're having some challenges with how this is coming.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Together is that fair to, say.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well he decided to change the way that we're doing,
things and it's. Not it's just so far now the
way that we want, Work so don't give up on.
Us is that what you're. Saying that's What i'm. Saying all,
Right but if we run twelve, personnel they know we are.
Running i'm Convinced koc has a really hard time emitting
even himself he's. Wrong, well, yeah he hasn't been willing
on the running game. Historically And i've, said you can
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go through all the other coaches from the same tree
from which he, originates and they all have a greater.
RESPECT i think they enjoyed calling running plays more than he.
DOES i just don't think he he does not get
the quarterback whisperer high from.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Calling running.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
PLAYS i just think that's sort of to a certain,
extent the way he is a bit. WIRED i Remember
dante running straight Into Derek brooks and winnings scoring a.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Touchdown dante was a. Monster, yeah he. Was there's no.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Question here's my. Favorite We i'm averaging on this. Show
four of these a. Day calm, down, guys first five
Games Peyton manning one uh one for?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Five does that? Mean what is? One one dash five?
Me wins and losses must? Be but he said first five,
games isn't that six? Games that would be? Six? Yeah six,
touchdowns eight iron.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
TS jj McCarthy two and three six, touchdowns eight iron.
Ts will you do me a favor find out the
year what Year Peyton manning was? Drafted and then once
you find that, out let me. Know and THEN i
have another follow up question for. You when you're doing
Your Peyton manning ninety eight, okay will you look up
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The Indianapolis colts record for the nineteen ninety seven, season
the season before they took him in the ninety eight.
Draft what did The colts finish in nineteen nine? Sets
if they were three and? THIRTEEN i see three and.
Thirteen you, say, yes what were the vikings this past?
(32:11):
Year was it fourteen and? Three almost the exact? OPPOSITE i, see?
Okay that, interestingly when every TIME i get these these comparisons.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's left.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Out i'm sure it's just an. Accident i'm sure it
has nothing to do with the with with with whatever
point that you were trying to trying to make that
it's immaterial what team that he had around him or
what he might have inherited that might have in the
case Of Peyton, manning contributed to some of those. Struggles
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some of them might have been of other. Reasons but
that is there's a number of quarterbacks we hear from
that were drafted number one. Overall and if you're drafting
number one, overall unless you make a deal with some
stupid team that gave up their number one, pick you're
gonna the team with the most losses the year before
is the team that's going to get that, player, RIGHT i,
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mean that's that's generally the way it's supposed to. Work
dante did not have small. Hands he had short. Fingers
that's more information THAN i. REMEMBER i wonder if we
should ask next time we Have Marty wex with the
third on what he remembers About Dante culpeper's measurables if
he had you, Know i'm wondering if he predicted the
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great promise that he showed early in his, career and
again it was doing that injury changed, everything the significant
injury that changed everything for For Dante. Culpeper that is
indeed for. Sure all, right let's get back on. Schedule
what was the other STORY i wanted to come back.
With it's a juicy one, too not related To wolve's.
Trade it'll come to my, HEAD i, hope BUT i
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hope it'll bring you. BACK i think it was something fairly.
Controversial if it'll indeed come to, me and we'll prepare
For Kevin seffert and for Fifteen louis to talk about
the Hottest are we the hottest hottest.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Team in hockey right? Now or is that exaggerating it
a little? Bit maybe a?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Touch but the top? FIVE i bet we gotta be
one of the five hottest teams in?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hockey? Rise?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, actually are we in the playoffs? Yet if the
season ended? TODAY i don't think WE'VE i don't think
we've risen that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Far you not.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Quite but we'll talk To luigi about all of that
as well when he joins at five. Thirty don't go
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(35:02):
WHAT i wanted to get to. Next let me preface
this by saying stating the. OBVIOUS i Love fox. Nine
worked For fox nine for a long. TIME i think
it's the best run LOCAL tv station in, town and
it's not even. Close love working with folks. There in
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a time where LOCAL tv news a lot of stations are,
HURTING a station is doing very. Well you prepared for
the butt What Dan minnesota knew he brought this to my.
ATTENTION i didn't see it till about a half hour.
Ago he knew exactly what my reaction would. Be knows
(35:48):
me too. Well so this is a a tweet From
fox nine from five hours. Ago it's snowing in parts Of.
Minnesota send us your snow photos for a chance to
be featured On fox nine and the photo they show
(36:10):
it's a deck in a backyard and it's literally you
couldnt even you couldn't even.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Call it a dusting by dusting.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Standards how much snow is actually has fallen to that,
point and you can see a little bit of a
dusting on a. Bench and, man we want it so,
bad don't? We we just have to have. It minnesota
asking has the committee named today today's snow?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Nami, No but if you have.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Experiences about today's, blizzard if you want to text us
six four six eighty, six how it went for, you
if you hit a slick, spot you, know got a
little you, know cod of hazard's driving. Situation maybe it
was in some, parts BUT i thought originally we were
supposed to get not a. Stonami but they were saying
like one to two inches of wet snow maybe or
something like. That is that tonight or is that it?
(37:05):
Already because now it's sunny. OUT i saw it as last.
Night it was supposed to be last night last. Night,
Okay NOW i got a couple. Jokes ONE i Hear
Apple valley had like five. Feet, yeah so there's. That
let us know if you're an apple. Valley how you're.
Coping that's one good, callback and the other callback is
at Least fox nine didn't go here's what you have
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to do to stay warm out?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
There that you would have done, that that's. True it's
just so. GOOD i get. It it's you, know it's
it's a promotion.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Age you're looking for, Clicks you're looking for people to, participate,
pictures the whole. Bit but this one is pretty. Feeble
it's snowing in parts Of. Minnesota exclamation. Mark of, course
send us your snow photos for a chance to be
featured On fox. Nine my guess is thousands of people.
(37:57):
Participated thousands, Here i'm gonna click on. It let click
On fox nine. Photos share your photos Of fox. Nine oh,
NO i thought this would show all of. Them this
is this is WHERE i would post ONE i would
THROW i, see SO i was hoping to like see
them a. Lot the blend of photos that came. In
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see how many people actually participated in. IT i stand
by My minnesota winter. Theory after having spent the last
what almost forty years here be forty years next, YEAR
(38:41):
i think. Eighties IF i came in, eighties IF i
got here in eighty six as twenty twenty. Five next
year will be forty, right be. EMOTIONAL i stand by
my Working minnesota winter. Theory if we can get To
december one without a blanket of, like you, know six
to eight to ten inches of snow just sitting, THERE
(39:04):
i think it's all gravy at that. POINT i really
think if you can get BECAUSE i happen to lie Unlike.
GUARDSY i like snow Around. Christmas it's part of the
aesthetic for. Me but it's when we get snow Late
october or even Early november and it's cold enough where
it just stays all the way Until march Into. April
that's WHERE i think the winners are difficult to cope.
(39:26):
With but if you get To december one and there
ain't a big snow, pile THEN i think he's always, Say,
okay It's. DECEMBER i mean we're gonna get something at some.
Point what do you think of that? Theory do you
abide by it or not so? MUCH i, mean if
snow could magically not go on the, roads, Yeah i'd love.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It almost seven Months, well, YEAH i get. THAT i understand.
That i'm just saying what you.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Agree it really gets old when it's sitting there stuck
on the ground From, yes you, Know november, three and
because we have had that many, times, right forget The
halloween blizzard there. Been you, know there have been a
number of other snowfall In. November it's not that unusual
for us to Get november Snow, now maybe it's less
frequent these. DAYS i haven't checked the last few. YEARS
(40:08):
i don't remember what Last november was, like just my
feel not real STAT i feel Like thanksgiving is usually
the time the first big one rolls, Around LIKE i
can remember A gopher game where it was a snowball
THERE i think against The. Badgers, yeah usually that's when
the big one. Hits, yeah if you can get to,
there it's. Fine but give me a little bit of
(40:28):
fall Through november would be. Great i'm with you on,
That john From john the mail. Carrier, yeah and. WEIRD
i made it to work exactly the same time AS
i do every. Day we know how we complain that
people can't drive during the first. SNOWFALL i guess we
learned how to drive. Now Snow namie Update Dan driving
home from work right, now AS i make my way
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through The South metro and get closer to my home In.
Plymouth the snowflakes are getting thicker and. Thicker wind is,
howling cars sliding. Everywhere it's a war zone out. Here
wish me lock AS i do my best to survive
a day that will no doubt go down In minnesota. History,
sadly it was too warm for a good snowfall last, Night,
DAN i hope you stayed.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Hydrated, HOWEVER.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I should have sent them a photo of the beautiful
green grass on the golf. COURSE i was down by
red wing right six point. Two guy had to turn
my wipers on due to it changing to water as
it hit my windshield and stopped now AND i THINK
i will make it home. Safe are you sure it's
not a spoof By fox? Nine maybe it. Is maybe
they were having some fun with it and knew very
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well that it was just kind of a.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Bit i'm not.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Sure sonami name Nomination dusty the Next, snonami the first Snow,
nami whenever it takes, place according To tom From, savage
has to Be snownomie McCarthy just didn't come to. Fruition
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but you could see glimpses on the. Radar that's pretty.
Good it's actually very well. PLAYED i felt a few
drips of sneak while smoking this. Morning, dan how much
snow Did Apple valley? Get we'll hear from them. Later
and it kind of feels like sixty five if, you
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if you're raking, leaves you probably this probably would be
a good raking leaves, day, right one more. CHANCE i
don't know whether that when the bottom is supposed to drop.
Out from a temperature, Standpoint i'm not. Sure today was pretty.
PLEASANT i think overall Correct culpeper hand size was measured
at nine point five inches according To. WIKIPEDIA jj McCarthy
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hand size is nine. Inches is that? True?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
HUH i had no.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Idea, ALSO i Remember Josh allen being terribleun till he
played the Five Mizo vikings and hurdled bar and meet
The vikings being fifteen point underdogs changed everything In.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Buffalo so there you have.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
It well Or wild are, tied according to a hockey,
expert in points for the last playoff, spot but technically
lose the tie breaker if the playoffs started. Today, fortunately
the playoffs do not start, today correct they. Don't, yeah
so we're gonna be okay ye on that The Blackhawks
Vegas Utah wild oilers twenty two.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Points, right? Gotcha, yeah that seems fair.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Enough that nineteen ninety eight culture roster looks good to,
me said.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Somebody that's probably makes some. Sense top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Pause seaford is coming up later this, hour probably about
four or, fifteen so shorty until, then we'll get to
some more Texts i'll get To MAYBE i will mention
the Juicy internet rumor that has no merit in any
sense of like media, steam but is one of those
being thrown around as maybe serving a purpose for two,
(44:02):
teams perhaps headed in different. Directions and one of those
teams happens to be your nine and Five Minnesota. Timberwolves
so we'll get to, that and Then seafert And. Louis
AS i, mentioned we'll join at about five thirty top
five and five big moment For Blake. Moore have you
consulted With fallness yet on what we'll be. INCLUDED i,
(44:23):
haven't But i've got a really good guest because my
guy is the top line.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Center oh
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Two minutes forty one seconds past three o'clock Central daylight,
no Central Standard time. Bumper to Bumper show is live,
it's local. It's on the air for the next I
think we're going the distance tonight, right three and a half.
There's no hockey tonight. There's no hoopside, is there? Unless
I'm forgetting about Gold to Go for men's basketball. Believer
Golden Distance, the Distance. Been a while since we've gone
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the distance on this program. You already heard from Brett
Blake Moore is in for Guardzie, who is tracking Gold
to Go for women's basketball. I think they're playing at
the University of Kansas or is it? Is it University
of Kansas or KU? I can't remember. Is it Kansas
University or the University of Kansas. Looks like Kansas the Jayhawks,
But I mean, where's the you part go in front
(01:01):
of them? Because like Indiana University is Indiana University, it's
not the University of Indiana. University of Minnesota is University
of Minnesota. It's not Minnesota University, right Kansas. I can't remember. Well,
it is ku fair enough. So guards he's out today,
he's out tomorrow, and then he's out Friday. Tracking goal
to Gopher football headed to Chicago for a big showdown
(01:26):
against Northwestern on Saturday at Wrigley Field. I wonder if
there we have anybody in our audience. I'm not even
sure you have to be a massive Gophers fan to
say weekend in Chicago and a football game at Wrigley Yeah,
I'll raise my hand for that. I bet you there's
got to be a few people who may have planned
(01:46):
that sometime ago. It seems like it could be a very
good opportunity. I've never seen football. Well, you know what,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have seen. This is how old I am.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I saw football a football game at Wrigley Field in
the mid sixties because once upon a time, of course,
before they went to Soldier Field, that's where the Bears played.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I have seen football a Wally Field, and I must.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Tell you it may have been the worst vantage point
from which I ever saw a game in person. It
was a seat and I'm talking about like card table
chair kind of a seat on the field, which sounds good,
but it really wasn't because there were a couple rows
in front of me and it was almost like we
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were on a hill going down towards the Cubs dugout.
So I don't know if I can even tell you
how much of the game I actually saw from that
vantage point. I think the seats have improved there, the
site lines have improved there as well, and we can
only hope that the Golden Gophers can get it done
(02:53):
to go to a meaningless bowl game as they are
wont to do. I'm the former Instate and Retch newspaper
the Twin Cities. My name is Dan Barrero. Good program today.
Kevin Seafert not in studio, but he will join by
telephone beginning at four fifteen today, and I think Luigi
is scheduled for five point thirty. Do you have confirmation
on Louis? I don't, but I'll you reach out. You
(03:14):
expect it to get done. The branch on Brian cafean
text line is open at six four six eight six,
that is six four six eight six, and the texts
are already coming in and we love them and we
can't get enough of them as well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What year were you born? Ninety six? So you would
have been, Well, you're.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You're probably a bad test case because you didn't even
you didn't even grow up at any point a Vikings fan. Correct, No,
there was nothing in there, even though you grew up here, right,
I grew up in Iowa. Oh that's right, you grew
up in Iowa. So when did you move here six
almost seven years ago? You're definitely not one of us.
I thought you went a little further back than that.
That's interesting. I mean I came up here all the
time for yeah, sure, sure, not so much for Vikings games,
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screen and Golder plan.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So you may be a bad test case. I bet you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
We've got how many kids in our audience remember the
two thousand season for the Minnesota Vikings. If you're old enough,
I'm sure you remember it well. But if you're a kid,
you might not have much recollection of it. And you
may say, Dan, why are you waxing nostalgic about two
(04:36):
thousand Minnesota Vikings football season?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
By the way, they did end in.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
What we say in the business calamity forty one donut
loss in the NFC title game to the New York Giants,
a game that shall live in Minnesota Vikings infamy. Well,
I think there is some relevance though, which we touched
on yesterday in our conversation, our wide ranging, free wheeling
(05:03):
conversation with Chris Carter, who joined us between five and
about five forty.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I just took it about as long as I could.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I wanted to go longer, but we're gonna run out
of time because we were out at six fifteen. And
what makes it relevant is that year two thousand, the
Vikings handed the keys to a young quarterback in his
second year. Year one, he basically sat. I think he
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got in briefly one game in ninety nine, but basically
the Vikings sat and they handed him the keys. In
two thousand, we're going with the kid. We're going with
Dante Culpepper. And I know this is going to be
painful for the mac bobos, who are very very sensitive
(06:00):
right now. The Undies are in a bunch. They're in
a twist, There's no question about that. And by the way,
I'll mention again, I endorsed the McCarthy signing, or should
say drafting, still thinking he's got a chance to be
a damn good quarterback. But I'm also I think pretty
(06:25):
intent on following the story and paying attention to what's
in front of me.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is even Chris Carter said yesterday, it's a.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Results oriented league no matter what season in your history
you are. They play the games, they record the games,
You watch the games. You get to react to what
you see. And I'm wondering if the mc bobos, if
any of them have spent any time, well, I know
(06:55):
they haven't tracking.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Dante Culpepper's first season as.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
A highly touted but not as highly touted as JJ
McCarthy quarterback coming out of college. For the season, he
played in all sixteen games. He completed sixty two points
seven percent of his passes, which is not very good
(07:23):
today then was considered okay, But he threw four thirty
three touchdowns and sixteen picks, and he threw for almost
four thousand yards in his first year, three thousand, nine
hundred and thirty seven yards. His quarterback rating his first year,
you know when what it takes everybody forever to figure
(07:44):
the whole thing out. His first year with no experience
the year before, none old fashioned quarterback rating was ninety
eight point zero. Ninety eight point zero, that is a
few points ahead of JJ. Early JJ is at sixty
(08:06):
one point seven JJ in five games, has half as
many interceptions as Dante Culpepper finished that season playing sixteen games.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You can do the math on that as well.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then we have the people go, what did you
do in his first few games? I have those two.
If you want, we can do the game log approach.
Dante's first game a thrilling thirty to twenty seven victory
over the Bears. In fact, I think that matchup, the
Bears had a left handed quarterback whose name I think
(08:46):
was Cade McNown Will you double check the name? What
was the name of the Bears quarterback in the year?
Is it Caate mcown?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Mcnow okay. He's a lefty, so.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
As a battle against young quarterbacks, and Dante was in
his first game thirteen for twenty three hundred and ninety.
He did throw a pick, also ran thirteen times for
seventy three yards. If you have ever seen Dante play,
he's enormous. He was a giant of a guy six',
five built like a. Linebacker he went about two forty
(09:23):
and he could. Move Dante culpepper before injury could bleep and.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Move second game of his career.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Twenty three for thirty seven three hundred and fifty five
yards and another thirty seven yards, rushing one, touchdown three
picks so he could throw a pick his third game
on the road At New england nineteen for twenty eight
one seventy, seven two, touchdowns one, pick also rushed twelve
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times for fifty nine. YARDS i think of those sorts numbers,
early and by the, way The vikings that, year With
dante as their starting, quarterback began the season six and
zero before they lost their first game six and. Zero
i'm thinking to, myself can you imagine IF jj had
(10:17):
started with those kinds of numbers what folks would be.
Doing but there is a lesson, here a message that
just because you want to scratch the itch of, well
let me. Compare i'll pick the, Quarterbacks i'll compare them
to And i'm going to find quarterbacks who were awful.
Originally we can play that, game And i'm playing it.
(10:41):
Today but how about if we it's not quite as
much fun if we pick another quarterback with, nowhere no
no more experience as a pro quarterback who in its
first year never looked at any point as in over
his head AS jj has through most of his the
start of his first season as the big time. Quarterback
(11:03):
so be careful assuming that because you get to choose
conveniently the ones you want to pick to make your
case better that, well look a look at the guy In.
Buffalo look how he. Started we can all the moral
of the. Story we can all find people to make
whatever our our argument. Is and in this, case this
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was A vikings. Quarterback AND i have to ADMIT i
forgot just how composed and unintimidated and as adult a
quarterback he looked in that first.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Year AND i eventually had.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
To apologize BECAUSE i wanted The vikings for that draft
to pick what was the name Of it was a
pass rushing demon that ended up going to The Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Titans the name will come to me in a.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Minute and The vikings needed an outside pass rusher and
they instead.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Took, Dante.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And in the short, RUN i thought it was a
bad move BECAUSE i, thought, well this team's ready to
make a run if they have another edge. Rusher but
it was hard to argue once you started Seeing dante
play that The, vikings because quarterback is such an important,
position that they made the right move With.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Dante, now what happened To dante.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Is he became a little more inconsistent and he got
hurt because he even had a better year than year
one his second year in the, league but year one
as a starting.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Quarterback and.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It should be BECAUSE i don't know why this, is
but we talk all the time about we used The
Christian ponder, comparison.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But we never used The dante.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
One the whole idea On dante was we need a
Franch The vikings need a franchise quarterback because Under debdy
they'd used, Everybody Sean, salisbury our, Guy Rich, Gannon jim,
McMahon Jeff.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
George they through that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Same phase that The vikings have been, through and by the,
way had some success with those, quarterbacks or at least
enough to keep themselves in the.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Mix so.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
History may be repeating, itself but it goes back to, then,
certainly and The dante story is a reminder that there's
no no young quarterback is obligated to play badly in
his first. Year you could, say, well the league was
different THEN i would argue that the league is actually
set up for greater passing for quarterback success now than
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it was then because it wasn't as much of a
considered as much of a passing league at that point
as it would. Become but be careful on who you,
pick and just remember we all can play the game
of who we want to compare him. To and from day,
one there was nothing in The dante resume that even
comes close To and the head coach did it again.
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Today he did it again. Today let me see IF
i can find. IT i saved. It one Thing vikings
fans can look for when he gets to the top
of his.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Drops we're really.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Trying to see if we can get him to be
a little bit more in a repeatable body. Position, Now
i'm not saying that's not, true BUT i am again
here to say that doesn't do his quarterback any. Favors
that sounds like he's talking about a middle school, quarterback
a junior high. Quarterback we got to keep telling, him,
now more repeatable body. POSITION i don't think that came
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up With Dante culpepper in the exact same position.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Many many years. Ago well now what twenty five years?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Ago THAT jj McCarthy is, right now we may go
let's go to twenty seven and then we'll catch. Up
bratchaw On Brian cafe in text line is open six four,
six six four six eight, seven six eighty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Six what AM i talking? ABOUT i don't.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Know want to put a seven on, there and they're,
already AS i, said kind of pouring. In there's not
any question that The vikings have no choice but to
continue to continue to PLAY. JJ i don't think Playing
brozemer makes any. SENSE i know it's a great. Angle,
LOCALLY i Like, BROZMER I i. Don't i'm not SURE
(15:24):
i invested In brownstones to the degree That guards he,
did BUT i liked him as a.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Gopher we lauded.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Him we lotted The vikings decision to bring him in
to take a look at, him and we were not
surprised when he made the. Roster he seems to have
a little. Something but let's be clear about something at this.
Point the rest of this, year especially if the team
is going to fade into non playoff, obscurity has to
be about finding out whether this is the, guy or
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you see enough from this guy to think we can
continue to invest in the. Guy BECAUSE i will tell
you that if you don't see a certain amount of
measure of, improvement THEN i think you have to open
the door to any number of possibilities for next, year
including bringing in somebody else to contend for the job
or at least have a chance To vuye for the.
(16:17):
Job but there's no doubt and Maybe brosem or even
plays better for a. Game this team has invested everything
into the concept OF jj McCarthy being the, guy and
so you can't suddenly deviate from that on the basis
of what we have seen to this, point which at
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times has been quite. Alarming Historic, again we've laid out
some of these numbers before that even by young quarterback
standards go to another level in terms of accuracy what
he has, done not always by the way against, pressure.
Etc you have to continue to find, out have to
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let him play through it if he at all. Can
but you're also, allowed even if you've invested in him
to the, degree you have to evaluate and you got
to have by the end of this, season honest conversations
about we see.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Enough it's a bad.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Start we saw some things though as the season went
on that he started figuring. Out, therefore he's our guy
next year and we're going to go forward with. THAT
i agree With Chris carter at the very, least if
you're not going to bring somebody into compete next. Year
if he continues to, struggle then you have, to regardless
bring in somebody to be a veteran backup who's better
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than the veterans that The vikings have tended to use
to this. Point who that, IS i don't. Know it's
a lot of ways to look at, that but the
people that they brought in this offseason didn't make any.
Sense Carson wentz probably was an upgrade over who was
the guy we ended up trading the backup quarterback who
was terrible As Sam.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Howe Sam, Howell thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Somebody presumably and hopefully a little bit better than that
and a little bit healthier and a little less long
in the tooth.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Than Carson.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Wentz Maybe Jeff, george who, said you, Know Jeff george
probably still has a heck of an. Arm somebody's texting
why not Brosmer, well BECAUSE i think you still again
unless you see your soul alarmed by what you see this,
season and you're gonna open it up to maybe we
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got a we do have a young quarterback that we
can work, with but it's just NOT jj McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
To.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Me you're gonna give McCarthy more, time and that MEANS
i would still rather have somebody who's got a little
bit experienced more Than brosmer does at this. Point and,
again let's be clear about. Something If Max brosmer had
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not gone To university Of, minnesota of the people who
talk about, him wouldn't they wouldn't Be it's just as
simple as. That that's been way too much of the
if you, know if he just PLAYED i don't, know
cal came in as the, backup there wouldn't be this.
Interest now every time we have a backup we like most,
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towns the psychology is put in the backup because we've
not seen. Him we've seen the main guy make a
lot of. Mistakes we've seen no. War the backup quarterback
has no, warts right because all you do is project
the best of what he represents and you, go what
do you got to lose any the other.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Guy we've seen the other. GUY i don't like, It
let's bring him.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
In there would have to BE i think a pretty
significant revolution of thinking to go that. Route and that
would be the case whether it's here or any place.
Else given the positioning WHERE jj McCarthy was indeed drafted
by the way we talked about the fact That, bray
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after he did the game The vikings game On, sunday
was going to head To Malo hysteria to chronicle the
opening of His is it a card?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
STORE i can't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
REMEMBER i think it's a card store at The mall Of.
America D have you seen the video or the photos
from The brady. Appearance we didn't get into this yesterday
because we concentrated on the. Game, Obviously i've never SEEN i,
mean you know. What it reminded me of When Jimmy
butler was introduced To wolves fans at The, rotunda same,
Spot mall Of america and all three four five levels.
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Up however many levels up there, ARE i think it's.
Three all you could see was a sea of People.
Brady it was the same way it was jam Pat now,
again the mall may have been jam packed for other,
reasons but they were all interested enough to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
To.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
BRADY i guess about whatever he, said maybe somebody in
our audience, went if you did text us and did
you lose yourself in his? Eyes because it looked Like
minnesota lost itself In Tom brady's. Eyes can you make the,
argument as some, have that part of the reason the
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place was so packed is that folks realized this was
probably the closest they would ever come to being near
A Super bowl winning. Quarterback is that part of it
where we, go, well we're not going to get so
what let's he? Woned MAYBE i can touch the hem
of his, garment or at LEAST i can yell down to,
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him or whatever the case may. Be maybe that's. It
that's What brady, represents. Correct AND i don't even think
he talks. Call did he ever call himself? Twelve he's
got a LINE tb, twelve, right BUT i don't think
he ever called himself. Twelve maybe he, did AND i don't. Remember,
yeah here it. Is was there at the card Vau
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that was a. Zoo he left four, minutes five minutes
before we got in the store to get his autograph
from my.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Son waited in line. Forever damn. It that's. Rough that's.
TOUGH i think you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
GET i, Mean i'm a little Disappointed brady didn't stay for,
everybody aren't.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You isn't that the? Rule it'd still be? There well you,
Might you might be right about.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
There and he did bring up during the broadcast His
minnesota ties.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where his mother is. From what's the town is it? Called?
Browerville double checked.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
The town That Tom brady said he spent summers in
as a. Kid his mom is from this particular, town
and he talked about.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Fishing the whole. Bit. Browerville that's WHAT i called. It
AM i?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Wrong? Browerville is that? Correct that's What i've. Got that's
WHAT i, Got browerville, correct that's. It in, FACT i
think there was one time one year WHERE guardsi AND
i tried to find somebody from. There maybe we even
had somebody on who has some connection to The brady,
Family so maybe we adopt. Them maybe that's what we're
trying to do after the, fact is we to a certain,
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extent he's kind of one of us because of what
he all the time that he as a kid apparently
spent here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
In where Is?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Browerville can you tell? Us it's just north of The Sock,
Center that's What i'm. Seeing so you're on your way, up,
yeah to The Great. North i'm Disappointed brady was not
on sermons On. Sunday doesn't he know who you? Are
we efforted, it did you you've tried? Hard didn't you
Get brady tried your, best AND i think we kind
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of came probably came up. Empty fortunately.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He caught sunfish just like we, did says a. Text.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
THEY i mean a lot of PEOPLE i think already knew,
this but perhaps some. Didn't and they heard it flat
out during the, broadcast and you could tell they were.
Beaming there were people just beaming at his desire to
connect Himself Tom brady to the great state Of. Minnesota
think about it as good as it, gets isn't it?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Him John? Madden there's all? One but he didn't win
the ball? Here, Correct, no they lost, That they lost
all and that was. Right, Yeah philly, Special let's do.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This let's pause bottom of the hour, break we'll get caught.
Up great guest lineup, Today seaffert on The purple at
four point fifteen And luigi to talk. Hockey how about
the red Hot minnesota while they've definitely heated up since
the last, time especially since the last Time Louis luigi
was on with. Us so that'll be part of the.
Conversation and really juicy if internet Generated wolve's trade rumor
(24:53):
that we absolutely need to discuss as. Well no reason
to believe there's any truth to, it but kind of
fun at, least yet kind of fun to think about as.
Well so all of that and, more keep the text
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Speaker 3 (25:22):
Tickets there's an element to, circumstantial and there were some
opportunities that the way The bears were.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Playing the other.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Day you, KNOW i know a lot of folks want
more runs on some of those third and two to,
threes and they had seven players on the line of.
Scrimmage you, know we got six to block them unless
you're gonna magically get, it unless you're gonna magically create
another player or Ask Justin jefferson to go down there
and you, know, block you, know block one of those,
Guys Kevin byer the. Third then you've the only way
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to equalize those numbers out is to run your.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Quarterback many many teams in this league.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Do, hmm, Interesting maybe can't see podcasts the, show not exactly, sure, Huh,
yeah it can be a numbers, Game there's no question about.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
That you don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Stubborn ALTHOUGH i think what some of the best teams
do is if they have enough faith in whatever they're
attempting to, do and they have a quarterback who is
as erratic as McCarthy has thrown, that they, go, oh
we might have to force it a little. Bit it's
two yards on third and two that you know what you.
Get if you get the two, yards you get a
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fresh set of, downs fresh set of. Downs we heard
that From Adam thielen. Yesterday we need more, plays so
you get them however you can get, THEM i said.
Yesterday THOUGH i have no complaints with how much we,
RAN i don't know what the final number. WAS i
really have no complaints with how much we. RAN i
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thought we ran at better times at the right. TIME
i know the irony is there are people bitter that
we didn't run more to drain the clock on that
last touchdown. Drive AND i got to tell, You i'll
(27:12):
come to any play callers defense when it comes to that.
Nonsense you have to, score, right you just, yeah in
a perfect, world you leave four seconds on the, clock,
right because then you can kick the ball, deep but
you can't be that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Cute you have to.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Whatever if you end that drive with a, touchdown you
have succeeded the notion that organ then because then you
are asking to run to run now. Again the previous
touchdown to play drive after the long pot return two
runs worked very. Well so might you have included more
of that in the? MIX i guess that's. Possible but
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guess what you could have scored on the first running play,
too once you got down in scoring, positions so and
you you would have run the same. Problem i'm not
in the group that gets bitter with with with somebody
in terms of how they score a. Touchdown, YEAH i
think that's a little nonsensical and a little bit too
easy after the. Fact by the, Way Javon curse was
(28:17):
the sack rushing edge rusher THAT i wanted The vikings
to draft The culpeper. Year will you double check what
number in round One culpeper? WENT i HAVE i think
it was, late first first, round was it? Not culpeper
was taking? Eleventh, oh not that, right not that? Late?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Eleventh, yeah eleventh picks went, sixteenth, yeah and And curse
was there and they needed a pass, rusher he would
have helped them big. Time but again it's hard to
argue with the quarterback. Position, now we were reminded one
Of dante's weaknesses with small.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Hands enormous.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Guy what are his dimensions listed at it in the
rock is six?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Five got out a six four sixty. Two, yeah he
was built like a.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Linebacker you know that whole bit about tacklers getting out
of the way because they didn't want to Tackle Adrian.
Peterson it wasn't that different With dante in his. Prime
he was alone. Man he was extremely strong and a terrific.
Runner but, yeah we used to kid about it small.
Hands he did have some fumbling, issues Did. Dante there's
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no question about. That but he was at no point
during his rookie season was he as overwhelmed AS jj
McCarthy has been at almost every point through the first
four or five.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Games there's no question about.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
THAT koc doesn't podcast the show Because The Bumper Bumber
show is no longer.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Podcasted why what's that? About this is the new.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
System, yeah we're figuring stuff, out all, Right so we're
we're in. PROCESS i, mean this isn't. Permanent we're just
working through the kinks of a new. System is that the? Deal, yes,
okay we could say that. Publicly that's. Okay WE i,
mean we don't want people to get. Frustrated so we're.
Trying we're having some challenges with how this is coming.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Together is that fair to, say.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well he decided to change the way that we're doing,
things and it's. Not it's just so far now the
way that we want, Work so don't give up on.
Us is that what you're. Saying that's What i'm. Saying all,
Right but if we run twelve, personnel they know we are.
Running i'm Convinced koc has a really hard time emitting
even himself he's. Wrong, well, yeah he hasn't been willing
on the running game. Historically And i've, said you can
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go through all the other coaches from the same tree
from which he, originates and they all have a greater.
RESPECT i think they enjoyed calling running plays more than he.
DOES i just don't think he he does not get
the quarterback whisperer high from.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Calling running.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
PLAYS i just think that's sort of to a certain,
extent the way he is a bit. WIRED i Remember
dante running straight Into Derek brooks and winnings scoring a.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Touchdown dante was a. Monster, yeah he. Was there's no.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Question here's my. Favorite We i'm averaging on this. Show
four of these a. Day calm, down, guys first five
Games Peyton manning one uh one for?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Five does that? Mean what is? One one dash five?
Me wins and losses must? Be but he said first five,
games isn't that six? Games that would be? Six? Yeah six,
touchdowns eight iron.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
TS jj McCarthy two and three six, touchdowns eight iron.
Ts will you do me a favor find out the
year what Year Peyton manning was? Drafted and then once
you find that, out let me. Know and THEN i
have another follow up question for. You when you're doing
Your Peyton manning ninety eight, okay will you look up
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The Indianapolis colts record for the nineteen ninety seven, season
the season before they took him in the ninety eight.
Draft what did The colts finish in nineteen nine? Sets
if they were three and? THIRTEEN i see three and.
Thirteen you, say, yes what were the vikings this past?
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Year was it fourteen and? Three almost the exact? OPPOSITE i, see?
Okay that, interestingly when every TIME i get these these comparisons.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's left.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Out i'm sure it's just an. Accident i'm sure it
has nothing to do with the with with with whatever
point that you were trying to trying to make that
it's immaterial what team that he had around him or
what he might have inherited that might have in the
case Of Peyton, manning contributed to some of those. Struggles
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some of them might have been of other. Reasons but
that is there's a number of quarterbacks we hear from
that were drafted number one. Overall and if you're drafting
number one, overall unless you make a deal with some
stupid team that gave up their number one, pick you're
gonna the team with the most losses the year before
is the team that's going to get that, player, RIGHT i,
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mean that's that's generally the way it's supposed to. Work
dante did not have small. Hands he had short. Fingers
that's more information THAN i. REMEMBER i wonder if we
should ask next time we Have Marty wex with the
third on what he remembers About Dante culpeper's measurables if
he had you, Know i'm wondering if he predicted the
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great promise that he showed early in his, career and
again it was doing that injury changed, everything the significant
injury that changed everything for For Dante. Culpeper that is
indeed for. Sure all, right let's get back on. Schedule
what was the other STORY i wanted to come back.
With it's a juicy one, too not related To wolve's.
Trade it'll come to my, HEAD i, hope BUT i
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hope it'll bring you. BACK i think it was something fairly.
Controversial if it'll indeed come to, me and we'll prepare
For Kevin seffert and for Fifteen louis to talk about
the Hottest are we the hottest hottest.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Team in hockey right? Now or is that exaggerating it
a little? Bit maybe a?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Touch but the top? FIVE i bet we gotta be
one of the five hottest teams in?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hockey? Rise?
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, actually are we in the playoffs? Yet if the
season ended? TODAY i don't think WE'VE i don't think
we've risen that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Far you not.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Quite but we'll talk To luigi about all of that
as well when he joins at five. Thirty don't go
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WHAT i wanted to get to. Next let me preface
this by saying stating the. OBVIOUS i Love fox. Nine
worked For fox nine for a long. TIME i think
it's the best run LOCAL tv station in, town and
it's not even. Close love working with folks. There in
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a time where LOCAL tv news a lot of stations are,
HURTING a station is doing very. Well you prepared for
the butt What Dan minnesota knew he brought this to my.
ATTENTION i didn't see it till about a half hour.
Ago he knew exactly what my reaction would. Be knows
(35:48):
me too. Well so this is a a tweet From
fox nine from five hours. Ago it's snowing in parts Of.
Minnesota send us your snow photos for a chance to
be featured On fox nine and the photo they show
(36:10):
it's a deck in a backyard and it's literally you
couldnt even you couldn't even.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Call it a dusting by dusting.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Standards how much snow is actually has fallen to that,
point and you can see a little bit of a
dusting on a. Bench and, man we want it so,
bad don't? We we just have to have. It minnesota
asking has the committee named today today's snow?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Nami, No but if you have.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Experiences about today's, blizzard if you want to text us
six four six eighty, six how it went for, you
if you hit a slick, spot you, know got a
little you, know cod of hazard's driving. Situation maybe it
was in some, parts BUT i thought originally we were
supposed to get not a. Stonami but they were saying
like one to two inches of wet snow maybe or
something like. That is that tonight or is that it?
(37:05):
Already because now it's sunny. OUT i saw it as last.
Night it was supposed to be last night last. Night,
Okay NOW i got a couple. Jokes ONE i Hear
Apple valley had like five. Feet, yeah so there's. That
let us know if you're an apple. Valley how you're.
Coping that's one good, callback and the other callback is
at Least fox nine didn't go here's what you have
(37:25):
to do to stay warm out?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
There that you would have done, that that's. True it's
just so. GOOD i get. It it's you, know it's
it's a promotion.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Age you're looking for, Clicks you're looking for people to, participate,
pictures the whole. Bit but this one is pretty. Feeble
it's snowing in parts Of. Minnesota exclamation. Mark of, course
send us your snow photos for a chance to be
featured On fox. Nine my guess is thousands of people.
(37:57):
Participated thousands, Here i'm gonna click on. It let click
On fox nine. Photos share your photos Of fox. Nine oh,
NO i thought this would show all of. Them this
is this is WHERE i would post ONE i would
THROW i, see SO i was hoping to like see
them a. Lot the blend of photos that came. In
(38:20):
see how many people actually participated in. IT i stand
by My minnesota winter. Theory after having spent the last
what almost forty years here be forty years next, YEAR
(38:41):
i think. Eighties IF i came in, eighties IF i
got here in eighty six as twenty twenty. Five next
year will be forty, right be. EMOTIONAL i stand by
my Working minnesota winter. Theory if we can get To
december one without a blanket of, like you, know six
to eight to ten inches of snow just sitting, THERE
(39:04):
i think it's all gravy at that. POINT i really
think if you can get BECAUSE i happen to lie Unlike.
GUARDSY i like snow Around. Christmas it's part of the
aesthetic for. Me but it's when we get snow Late
october or even Early november and it's cold enough where
it just stays all the way Until march Into. April
that's WHERE i think the winners are difficult to cope.
(39:26):
With but if you get To december one and there
ain't a big snow, pile THEN i think he's always, Say,
okay It's. DECEMBER i mean we're gonna get something at some.
Point what do you think of that? Theory do you
abide by it or not so? MUCH i, mean if
snow could magically not go on the, roads, Yeah i'd love.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It almost seven Months, well, YEAH i get. THAT i understand.
That i'm just saying what you.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Agree it really gets old when it's sitting there stuck
on the ground From, yes you, Know november, three and
because we have had that many, times, right forget The
halloween blizzard there. Been you, know there have been a
number of other snowfall In. November it's not that unusual
for us to Get november Snow, now maybe it's less
frequent these. DAYS i haven't checked the last few. YEARS
(40:08):
i don't remember what Last november was, like just my
feel not real STAT i feel Like thanksgiving is usually
the time the first big one rolls, Around LIKE i
can remember A gopher game where it was a snowball
THERE i think against The. Badgers, yeah usually that's when
the big one. Hits, yeah if you can get to,
there it's. Fine but give me a little bit of
(40:28):
fall Through november would be. Great i'm with you on,
That john From john the mail. Carrier, yeah and. WEIRD
i made it to work exactly the same time AS
i do every. Day we know how we complain that
people can't drive during the first. SNOWFALL i guess we
learned how to drive. Now Snow namie Update Dan driving
home from work right, now AS i make my way
(40:48):
through The South metro and get closer to my home In.
Plymouth the snowflakes are getting thicker and. Thicker wind is,
howling cars sliding. Everywhere it's a war zone out. Here
wish me lock AS i do my best to survive
a day that will no doubt go down In minnesota. History,
sadly it was too warm for a good snowfall last, Night,
DAN i hope you stayed.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Hydrated, HOWEVER.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I should have sent them a photo of the beautiful
green grass on the golf. COURSE i was down by
red wing right six point. Two guy had to turn
my wipers on due to it changing to water as
it hit my windshield and stopped now AND i THINK
i will make it home. Safe are you sure it's
not a spoof By fox? Nine maybe it. Is maybe
they were having some fun with it and knew very
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