November 12, 2025 • 44 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show explaining why Netflix "likes us!" after we learned they are producing a show based on high school hockey in Minnesota. Dan also reacts to some Kevin O'Connell comments today about playcalling on third down.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pass, you're they like us, They really like us. Later
fan Fan Radio Network and k fa N dot Com
one minute and fifty three seconds past the hour of
three o'clock that is Central Standard time. Welcome you back
(00:23):
to a midweek edition of the Bumper to Bumper program
and guards. He reminds me just before we go on
the air that it is a three hour tour today,
three hour tour vikings x's and o's into Golden Golpher
men's basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Correct, that's the schedule.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Golden Golfer men's basketball undefeated, Golden Gover women's basketball undefeated.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is that correct? Gophers tonight all r at the University
of Missouri? Is that correct? Isn't it Missouri University? Is it?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I thought you I don't remember. I thought maybe it's
Marquette University, University of Missouri, Marquette University.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's who your club dominated yesterday by Did we run
up the score a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, like ninety seven ninety one, forty seven, ninety one
forty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My god, and Marquette's not supposed to be horrible, they're
not test Yeah, So maybe that's a good sign for
your favorite club or one of your You got so
many clubs, that's true, one of your favorite clubs. So
we'll see what the Gopher men I have odd. I'm
going to admit it, I have not paid. I've paid
close enough attention to read game accounts, but I'm waiting
(01:35):
for more legitimate opponents. And it sounds like this one
might be a little bit and it's.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
On the road. Yes, very different. I mean House of
Pain at Missouri.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Most people know that's one of those places where Tigers
teams is that they call it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Sure, yeah, that works from me.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'll say this, you will like how they play well,
there's no question about that that you could tell just
by watching his previous teams.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, style of play. And again in the end, it's
going to come down to winning or losing. Of course,
ives of getting people back in the barn. But esthetically,
I think it's going to be easier to like because
of the style. As you say, the ball moves, the
players move correctly. Those things are one hundred percent true.
By the way, do we give I gave a I
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issued a full pelf to your guy, our guy, Richard Patino.
Did you see his tweet from about eighteen minutes ago?
I did not know Monday night was on me, I
will be better, we will be better tough one Friday
night at Iowa, so I gave him a full pelf.
(02:45):
What happened Monday night? Did they lose to somebody they
weren't supposed to lose to? Did he make a couple
of boneheaded decisions in the second half of the game.
Do we know exactly why Richard Patino is saying I'm
the guy. Don't point the finger anyplace else but at me.
I will accept a full pelf for my coaching performance.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They got run out of the gym by Ooh. Did
Steve Nash go to Santa Clara? Yes, I think that's right. Yeah,
by Steve Nash and Santa Clara eighty seven sixty eighth
Santa Clara.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Any good?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think they're okay, They're fine, they're coached by I
think it was home. They also lost their exhibition game
earlier this year like that. Rich Betino, for those who
don't remember, is now at Xavier.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
He is. Yes, he's not in New Mexico anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Correct, And they grinded to a victory over Lemoyne last Thursday.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Plucky.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, people underestimate lamoy I always had under what you've
always said, is underestimate Leamoye.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
At your own parr own peril. That's right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, So it's not going great for him in your
zero at Xavier, and so he's had a couple of
those two.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He had to send out a tweet they can't go
the pelf. Learn you can't go pelf every time? Exactly right,
exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, Well you had to remind people that it was
an exhibition and it didn't count, which is what Dan
Munson once had to do. That's right when Winona State
came in here and beat him at the bar, and
that's not the company you want to be in.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dan Munson, there's a name from the past. Is he
still coaching?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think he is at Eastern Washington really, because remember
he got fired at Long Beach Stations. They made him
finish the season and then they made the tournament. Then
they made the tournament, was a good story. They ran
the table. So now you think he's Eastern Wide. I
think he's back in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think don't call me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I would still be coaching the Gophers, who if
he were able to knock off Northwestern in the conference tournament.
I'm convinced that that was what killed him. He just couldn't.
That's Northwestern, you know. The style play just doesn't match
up with what we like to do. Bill Carmody, Baby,
I was there for some of those games. Brat, Shawn
and Brian Kavan. Text On has open at six four,
six eighty six. This is a program we affectionately referred
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to as the Afternoon Ardvark here on the fan Barrero
and guards you with you until six o'clock tonight on
a very ball meet for again almost mid November, Minnesota
afternoon and a high is it tomorrow or Friday? The
high is listed as sixty five degrees? That'd be Friday?
(05:14):
Is it Friday? Sixty five degrees? That's outstanding? And then
I think the bottom drops out, but who can argue
at this point? Very good guest lineup today, including the
two Wednesday regulars. Kessler in studio at five point fifteen
as guards he said, and then Mason your face to
give us what I hope will be an entire hour
(05:35):
of Who's Your Hotline? Between four and five o'clock, I
might allow a little bit of previewing of Gopher's Oregon
and a little bit of review of Oregon versus Iowa.
But other than that, it's gonna be a lot of
who's your hotline? For sure, and maybe a little bit
on the juicy new controversy surrounding Brian Kelly at LSU,
(05:56):
because as I understand it, LSU is starting to say,
we're gonna be we fire you, or we're gonna be
able to fire you for cause, which means that we
don't have to pay you. Not surprisingly, Brian Kelly's people
are saying, not so fast, my friend. So there's an
interesting battle breaking out there, like what would be the cause?
Would it be for affecting a Southern accent? Is that
(06:18):
enough to be caused to fire him?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is that fraud? I'm sure fraud is in the contract.
Is that a form of fraud? That might argue that
that very well might be? Did you get to see
the Northern lights last night?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But I heard they were supposed to be spectacular, were they?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I'm doing the game last night, Gopher's Marquette, and
my phone just starts going off with like eight texts
from my wife, which I assume means there's been an accident. Right, Sure,
it's not good, And so I look down and it's
just like twenty photos of the entire neighborhood out admiring
the northern lights. They looked spectacular. They did look good,
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and you can see him from everywhere. It sounds like
so even in a metro area showed up. Okay, there's
that arts here. That's better.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Obviously if you're in a place away from major cities
and all the lights.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's what my in laws would tell you. You got to
get up.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You got to get up north by Lake Superior to
really appreciate the northern lights. But if you city it's
want to, you know, take in the junior varsity Northern
lights you can. They looked pretty good. They were in
our driveway. Yeah, basically the neighbor girls and our kids
were in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They loved them.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Clayton from Rochester, Dan New Wrinkle to the Pelf scale.
When Koc says it's on him to get the running
game going, could you call it the purple Pelf? Yes,
I guess you could.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We could.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Did he say that to get it's on him to
get the running game going? I don't when did he
say that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Maybe he said that today, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I do have Well, it's not but if that's an
accurate reading, the issue isn't getting the running game going,
it's using the running game that is going. There, You go, right,
I mean the running game was going this last game.
But I indeed digress. They like us, They really like us.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did you? I'm assuming you've heard about it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We are going to be the center of the Netflix
universe very soon, and the state of hockey.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is bursting with probube. I'm sure we are. You know
about this story, I've heard ro Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
This is Neil Justin's report out of Star Tribune dot
com eight part series in which Michelle Monaghan been in
a lot of motion pictures? Has she not Mission Impossible?
Three True Detective? Wasn't she in the remake of.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Oh My God? What was the Charles Groden movie that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Was made in Minnesota and then remade many many years later.
It'll come to me in a minute. I thought she
was in that film too. She's been in a bunch
of movies. Not Beethoven, No, I think of that's not
the one. She's gonna play the coach of a Minnesota
high school hockey team in an up having drama for Netflix.
(09:02):
It's going to be an eight part series hasn't been
named yet, set in a fictional town called South Dorothy,
South Dorothy, Minnesota, and apparently the bit is the local
school has a reputation for churning out future National Hockey
(09:24):
League stars.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But the back story is that the team.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Is in disarray because of a bise should say, bus
accident which takes the lives of several players and the coach.
So you got drama and tragedy early.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's the setup. So she's going to take.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The role on the role of Harper Sullivan, the coach's widow,
who is tasked with resurrecting the team's spirit. Sadly, the
show will not be filmed here. That's what I'm filmed
in Vancouver. That's what I'm bummed about. Yeah, you know
what it is. We probably don't have enough film incentis,
we don't give credits. We don't believe that kind of
(10:05):
I know, we should work on that. We should make
this a Hollywood destination for films, make it more attractive
for hockey.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It was good enough for Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Correct. No other well known cast names been announced, but
there's some heavy hitters behind the scenes, including showrunner Bridget
Badard and co executive producer Sean Levy, Stranger Things all
the light we Cannot see, which, by the way, I
thought was not as good as the book. But that's
another story for another day. With its visceral sports backdrop
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and a story grounded in deep humanity, we cannot wait
to bring this show to a global.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Audience.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
According to the executive producer Sean Levy, Nick Nevada, relatively
unknown compared with the other executives, is credited as the
show's creator. Now you may know this, this is not
the first time Monahan has played one of us. Do
you care to take a wild guess or maybe more
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than a guess at the.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Other I read read this story. I read the story.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So that's cheating North Country, which I don't remember seeing
two thousand and five and it came out twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Set it's a good song by Rocket.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Play in the Iron Range. Now, can we assume that
Coach Sullivan Coach Harper Sullivan will be saddled immediately with sexism,
that there will be people who will not accept no,
(11:42):
I should back up.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Do we know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
The team is boy players or girl players? It's not
really stated in the story. It is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's true. I'm gonna assume it's boy play. I'm assuming
it's boys. So I'm a guess.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm gonna guess one of the early story you can
milk at least two or three of the of the
eight parts out of this is what. She doesn't know
anything about hockey, right, great that I'm glad that she
was coach's wife, But what does she know about the
blue line?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What does she know about the Penley kill?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So I'm guessing she'll have to deal with that right
off the bat, and you can build all sorts of
spinoffs from that on that basis alone, could you not?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm wondering did Josh Broughton have a role in this
at all? Because he should? Oh yeah, I didn't even
think of that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He should.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's got to be some authenticity if they're not going
to film it here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Can he skate?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, he's from Minnesota, so probably even though I can't
that I'm from here.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
He's probably too old though to be one of the players.
Did he be one of the dads of the players.
Oh yeah, that's true. He'd be about the age of
a height. You're right. I wonder if they still have
casting to do. He's already played a dad in Silver
Space in touch with him a lot more than I am.
Does he did he know anything about this? I'm sure
he knew about it. He'll probably send me his casting
call audition in the next five minutes. YEA need to
(13:01):
watch North Country has an Oscar nominated role played by
Charlie Thorn. Okay, maybe I should. Maybe it's it's I
do actually remember hearing good things about it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There is a ghost town for all practical purposes named
Dorothy west of Red Lake Falls near Thief River Falls
in northwestern Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Peter Popsicle is pointing out to Dan that the Northern
Lights colors are the same colors as the Minnesota Wild
Dot dot.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Dot didn't help them last night, State we got a point,
not enough.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You're getting greedy. We're not gonna get two points every night.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
It's the Sharks. They're the greatest young team ever. But
they're up one h third period.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think their defense is playing better, but yeah, you
can look it up. Two points is better than one.
And by the way, that's a bit of a foreshadowing.
There's gonna be a lot of math on this show.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Too. Oh, that's not good. A lot of math. Well,
I'm not going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Actually, I am going to ask you to solve one problem, okay,
because it's very instructive. Regarding this particular as a society
related story.
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Speaker 1 (14:31):
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Speaker 2 (14:36):
If you're just joining the program.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We were talking earlier off the start of the show
about the big news that we're not going to be
flying over country. According to Netflix, they are working on
or about to begin filming a brand spanking.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
New eight parts series.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Eight parts is substantial, pretty good for maybe year one
and then if it goes well. Allegedly it goes on
from there. Set in a fix little Minnesota town, and
it's about the high school hockey team that has dealt
first with tragedy and now it's trying. It's, it's it's
there's an attempt to put it back together. But because
they had the legendary head coach was killed in this
(15:15):
particular bus accident. It turns out his wife, the coach's widow,
Harper Sullivan, is going to coach the team and Larry
Mindela guy who has a lot of good sources, as
you know in the hockey community, reports that lu Nanny
(15:37):
has already stated he does not like the way he
is portrayed in the movie or the person that's well,
you know what I did think of Louis, but I
didn't think of it in that clever a context. Mine
was just going to be I wonder if they're gonna
use Louie as you know, like, what do you use
(16:00):
for movies like that? Not experts but consultants? I might usually,
So that's not that funny. This is fun This is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So Larry mightilmost did he walk out of the premiere
or almost.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Walk out of the premiere. I think he walked out
of it. I'm pretty sure he did. Think he did. Yeah,
he still hasn't over it. He still isn't over it
twenty two years later. Is this true?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Or is this somebody trying to get me going? This
is Tom from Savage today at his presser. When asked
what the Bears have done to improve Caleb Williams performances,
KAOC responded, they've established the run. I could hear the
dinner bell of the ardvark. That's from Tom out of Savage.
(16:45):
Did he really say that?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Did he say it with a straight face. I got
to figure it out because I'm listened to most of
them conference. Hey, he's just trying to get me going.
He may have said that. He I know he talks
about just Caleb getting the experience and having his success
last year at the end of the year and all
of that. I didn't hear that specifically, but I'll take
the texture at his word. I do have about a
two minute clip to play during the top five to
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five that you might be interested in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What do we want to play it sooner or no?
We save it for that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's kind of up to you it's about his third
down play calling.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh okay, all right, well we'll hold on to it
at least for now, and maybe we can get into
it a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
For the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Do you have a pen? Yeah? I'm looking for paper, though,
so just hang out. I don't have a piece of paper.
I got to get some. Nobody has paper anymore because
nobody uses paper anymore. I use a lot. It's just
over in my bag over here.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, I see, all right, will you reach for your bag.
I'll mention the guest lineup the rest of the way.
Mace in studio beginning at four oh two, Kessler in
studio right after the top five at five. Because we
are out early today at six o'clock this evening. There's
a lot of good stuff to get to with with
special K. And he didn't even include in the notes.
(18:04):
I saw the item you and I both predicted would
be at the top of his list. I think, did
you notice that? I did notice that, But that was
almost as predictable. I think he knows it's so big
it's gonna be I see, I guess that could be.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That could be it.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Because I'm too obvious for him to just like you,
you know, throw it in there. Do you have the
paper pen in the paper?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah? All right, here's the arithmetic.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think this would be an arithmetic problem I'm asking
you to solve. Okay, sure, I have very little confidence.
Seven plus two yep equals blank plus six. Seven plus
two equals blank plus six.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Isn't that three plus six? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
That even for you, you didn't have to hesitate all that much.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I always hesitate because you think it's a trick
if you have a team plus so obvious that I
can't possibly have gotten it, even though that one's fairly simple.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
The University of California's San Diego Math department administered a
test to one hundred and thirty eight students in a
remedial math class, and twenty five percent of them got
that question wrong. Seven plus two equals blanks plus six.
One four could not answer a fairly simple question.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The job's done.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
We can go home now, and we come to find
out that you see. San Diego in General has released
a new report documenting what they describe as a steep
decline in the academic preparedness of its freshmen. Here's the
key number, the number of entering students needing remedial math
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or worse, if they couldn't solve that very difficult equation
has exploded from one out of one hundred to one
out of every eights. Frustrating, they've had to create a
second remedial class covering elementary and middle school math skills
in addition to the one covering gaps.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
From high school.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Their report also shows that nearly one in five students
failed to meet entry level writing.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Requirements.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
This deterioration coincided with the wait for it, COVID nineteen
pandemic and its effects on education. The elimination of standardized testing,
a hair brained idea that now I think education folks
have figured out and are trying to reverse great inflation,
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a subject we've talked about from time to time, and
the expansion of admissions from under resourced high schools. I mean,
that's now again, this is one report, it's one study,
it's one school. That's a tough look, though, but that's
(21:08):
that's a frightening look, and it is a reminder that
as much as COVID nineteen and the original response to
it was unavoidable and was the correct response.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
As we talked about as the as the the story
sort of.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Developed, there were I think way too many schools, way
too many school systems that were way too cautious about reopening,
and that has come at a cost that everybody predicted
was going to be considerable. And now I think we're
getting more and more evidence of exactly that. And this
is I mean, I mean, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Let me repeat the fill in this box.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Seven plus two equals blank plus so I think, I mean,
I don't even think it's that tricky where you go,
let's see what's so, what's seven and two? Yep, well
that would be nine.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That'd be nine.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So if six is already there, then I only need
three more to get to nine.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Twenty five percent of them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
These are kids headed to college, not headed to middle school.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, I mean that.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
My third grader could do that. I'm pretty sure my
first grader could probably do that as well. And given
my math geneticsly yeah, that I've passed on to them.
That's not a reflection on me or kids. It's just
that that's tough.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That's that's devastating, man, there's no coming out of that.
Nobody wins when standards are lowered. That's the great to
all the equity folks man. That's that's the cluelessness of
that position. Nobody wins bringing everybody down, that's the thing.
It's it's a losing proposition. Teacher, techs are coming in
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fast and furious. Example, I can go to forty two today, right, yes,
you can.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm a teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know you do not know how hard.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It is to get kids to focus in class and
just do basic items like take notes, pay attention, complete assignments,
and focus on what is directly in front of them.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
We've made a huge mistake. Hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Scroll Dout's give this fair representation in incorporating technology into education,
and there are many districts that have one to one
ratios of technology and devices for kids all the way
down to kindergarten. The team brain rot excuse me, the
term brain rot that many of the middle and high
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school students use to describe themselves or their peers is
truly what we are seeing in education. I can create
the most lavish, hands on, exciting activity for my kids
to do in class, but I will have to compete
with ten thousand different distractions they can find online and
the twenty to three hundred and second attention span they
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currently have have because of their constant scrolling. We have
a generation of screen agers get it as yeah, headed
to college in the workforce, leave some bounds behind where
they need to be well.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Can we in.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Part reverse this by what seemed to be a growing
trend in favor of retiring the phones to the front
of the classroom. Because there's more and more school systems,
it seems I wish we would to be going in
that direction. Can that How much will that change? Teacher
guy or gal? Can you mention where this study was published?
University of California, San Diego. Apparently my kid is in
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first grade and learning math equays and just like that,
that is startling. Bill Maher always says our high schools
are graduating kids who know nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
This is from area code four four to two. No,
four four three. You know four four three.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You're very exotic sounding area code four four three. I'll
look at up four.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Four three not shocking if you work in schools at all.
Eastern Maryland, Baltimore, Annapolis, Columbia.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Good to hear from Eastern Maryland. Have you ever seen
cashiers try to make change? Well? I don't even think
anybody tries to make change anymore because nobody pays in cash,
do they?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Some people do very rarely, very rarely.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Though the AI generation has come of age now there
are people who's comeback will be well, I can just
figure it out on a calculator, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But but I mean, I'm not sitting here saying.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You know that that you got to know every complicated
algebraic equation, right, because many of us don't, and we've
you know, survived, okay, but there are basics that you
think are helpful, just learning how to cope and to
exist and to advance into whatever you are attempting.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
To be.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Uh, seven six Three guys complaining about the fact that
we're out again at six?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
He or she is suggesting that let's just stop with
the pretense, just make the show three to six.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I'd have no argument with that. I don't think you
would either. We'd be fine with that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
But we've been down this road before, and they've got
like these fancy charts and analytics about how this station
makes money, and there's apparently a very big difference between
six and six thirty and six thirty and seven and
six and six thirty is still big enough that I
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don't think they're going to let us out at least
on purpose. Now, maybe that'll change someday.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
They're only going to let us out tonight at six,
Tomorrow at six, and Friday at six.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Is that way a Friday too?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Go go for pregame, Go for pregame. I'm annoyed as
it is that it's an eight o'clock game. I wanted
to be out at five. You were hoping for like
a six o'clock kick. I yes, I was hoping to
be out at well, yeah, for seons. I would even
take it's seven pregame five, Sure, that's what I thought
it was. But it's eight, eight o'clock started it is?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Is it Corvales? No, that's so hot. That's Oregon State,
it is. Yeah, we're in Eugene, Gene Oregon. Chaos did
say that when they check out of a run and
complete a pass for a good game, he counts it
in his running game.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He did say that a check from what does that
even mean?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
He says that if they have a run play and
then they get up to the line of scrimmage and
they check out of it because they've shown run but
then the defense is more susceptible to the pass, and
they pass for eleven yards. They basically count that as
a run. Win is what he said. That's just so precious.
(27:42):
It's it's complicated. Oh my god, Okay, it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We're happy for him. A couple more good there's a
lot of good texts. They're coming on a number of
I think, by the way, we are very close to
a full Zim from chaos. If there's a couple more bad,
well I will this. I have to be really careful
how I say this, how I present this, because I
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have to protect.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Sources. You know, it's some important to protect your sources.
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So I'm going to try to speak in generalities here,
But what I am hearing is that the level of
tension in general between the Jackals and the head coach
(28:36):
has never approached the current level, That it is palpable,
it is personal, and that it's reached a place for
whoever you want to blame, that it has never come
close to being before. And so to your point on
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the inside, when the cameras aren't going, we might already
be there.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We already might be at full Zim.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Or interest interesting, so you know, and then you want
to almost examine what's that about?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Is it just the tension that comes with you're big?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You know, you're you're an NFL head coach. You got
people coming at you all over the place. Yep, this
season hasn't gone the way it was supposed to go.
It has not been smooth to this point. You're coming
off fourteen and three, but you are aware that your
administration that you're a part of is still looking for
its first playoff victory, right, and that there's it happens
(29:39):
to people. They get tenser, they start wondering where it's
going to go, They start wondering how much heat they're
going to get, maybe internally. But yeah, I don't so
to your point, I don't think you're wrong. And this
goes a lot of this goes back. It was already
manifesting itself in Europe. It was big time behind again,
behind the scenes, that stuff that was necessarily playing out publicly,
(30:01):
but that it was definitely there. I just in watching
the press conferences, my theory, I sense it just how
he looks, how he's talking.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's the same koc.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He still fills it up, right, he still gives you
a three minute answers, which are great. But my theory
is this is the first time he's ever been truly,
I think, questioned and rattled as a head coach because
it's been a pretty smooth ride as a head coach.
Right yes, he got here, they start winning with Cousins
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right away, They've got all the crazy you know, one
score games, the Colts game, the Bills game, and then
he's got all the injuries the next year or so. Yes,
you're gonna get kind of a grace period through all
of that. The pastor Nott comes in and everything looks crazy.
We know how last year went. This is the first
year where it's bumpy. Well, he hasn't been beaten up
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like I was talking to Rosen about it, because I
was saying the same thing to Rosen, and I was saying,
I think, I don't know if he's ever going to
melt down like Wood or Denny Wood or Tys would
like Tyson was in his first head coaching John I
guess him was too, but they haven't been. This is
the first time he's really been through the ringer, and
I think he's not coming out of it great.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, I think part of it too.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I think if the longer you're in the place, the
more pressure, if there's not enough of a payoff, so
then that starts building. You Sorry, when am I going
to start being on the clock. I think that's part
of it. I think another big part of it is
I think he believes that his level of what we
can kid about the word salad stuff, and we have
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a good text on that from even earlier today. But
in his mind he thinks he's he makes himself available
more than most coaches and is willing to take as
many questions, even if you don't always love his answers. Sure,
and so I'm sure in his world he's going, well, guys, yeah,
(31:54):
all I do is try to give and now you're
gonna hammer me. But what he leaves out again is
you got to follow the story. And again one of
those stories that I don't think the organization appreciates the
way it's been covered.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Is there.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think I'm in the group that believes that there
is every reason to believe that the QB could have
come back before he did. And I think that's different
than saying they made up the injury. But I think
they slow played it. I absolutely believe they slow played it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Think of it this way.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I understand for two weeks he was only listed as
the emergency quarterback. But if you're listed as the emergency
quarterback technically, then you got to be ready to play
if you have to correct true. So I think and
and I and I I got it. You know, I
would say to him, I sat down and say, you
may not appreciate the way the story is being covered.
(32:53):
You may even not like the ways nationally some of
the stuff's been written about whether it was a made
up injury. I don't think it's a made of injury.
But I think they slow played it for whatever reasons.
Give them more time to take a deep breath, whatever
the case may be. I believe that's true. And he
may disagree and say, I know what happened. And so
there is a lot more that's going going on here
(33:15):
real quick. I actually like to show the best when
we're exploring two subjects in subjects that are utterly unrelated.
In the same segment, math stupidity from our college income
and college class and the current state of media relations
(33:36):
between the Jackals and the head coach. I'm a teacher
in Minnesota and the screens. Issue isn't an issue for
phones they are away for the day. If your students
are on their phone, it's because you aren't paying attention
to the students well enough. Yes, someone will sneak by
and get a good look at it, but that's a
few and far between. The issue with students not doing
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as well as they did in the past is because
families do not spend enough time and put priority to
their education when they have so many other extra curricular
activities that they prioritize over sitting down and helping their
student with their work. That's a controversial accusation. I don't
know if I fully agree with it, but I don't
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want to get defensive. It's an interesting point of view
though definitely worth mentioning. And I guess this probably all
depends on the family involved and the amount of input
that parents are involved with as well, So it's a
combination of pretty much all of those things.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I believe. Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We'll pause here, don't forget Mason your Face top of
the hour. We'll get into a couple of other controversies
that are kind of stuck in my crab before Mason
your Face takes over. Kessler will follow the top five
at five. Michelle Monhead played in the remake Very Funny
(35:16):
Read two thousand and seven remake of a motion picture
called The Heartbreak Kid, which originally the original was filmed
in part in Minnesota. In fact, Sybil Shepherd Key in
that movie was a University of Minnesota student. Father played
(35:36):
by very shall we say tight lipped Eddie Albert and
in the remake, Ben Stiller Michelle Monaghan were among the
stars of that motion picture.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I was trying to scramble for.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I can't believe I didn't see that one. I am
surprised you didn't either. It's still that would in seven
that would have been a big It's a funny film.
It's a funny, it's got It's not a film for
the whole family. I wouldn't say necessarily, there's some stuff
you'd have to explain, although maybe you already have.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I watched and so not a lot of secrets.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Unfortunately, the factor that in burrel Oaks Chef Guy writes
Dan Kosey's words out today, answering the direct question in
his past run quotient gave me a miss mister Misty
headache on my way home you guys need to play
those three to four minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
A mister misty headache.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It was mush mouthed nonsense. Is that what you have
for us? You're two minutes different.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, that's what I have. What you want me to do?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You want me to grab it time? Sure, I'm laughing
about the mister misty headache. That is very specific. Have
you ever had a mister misty a dairy queen?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's like a slushy. Oh, slushy, That's what I remember
from my younger days. But is it really if you
drink it too fast?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Very much?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
So?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Gotcha? All right? So this is KOC today on the
run pass quotient thing.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yes, Kevin O'Connell on the third and short play calling.
And this is in its entirety unedited, first.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
And foremost, like like in any you know, healthy discussion.
I think you've got to establish what are we talking
about from a standpoint of thirtain ones, third and twos,
third and threes, third and two to five? How defenses
are going to align, you know, based upon you know,
the front structures that they want to kind of get in.
I think you know, we've had multiple runs called in
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those situations where parameters maybe take us out of those looks,
or we have a run pass solution on them and
we've converted. Or we've had multiple run plays called on
early downs where we've thrown the ball and got an
eleven yard completion, got a nine yard completion, and we
look at those as statistically part of the run game.
I know that doesn't necessarily fall under that category as
(37:57):
a whole, but there's no question the you know, we've
we've had success specifically this year in the short yardage situations.
There's been you know, a couple uh, you know, schematical
things that have caused us to not convert, but more
than likely when we get a hat on a hat
and give the ball to JP or Aaron, we've we've
converted those. And I think it's just a matter of
(38:19):
once again, like in the moment, whether it's the third one,
third and one chance against Atlanta early on in the
year or the third and one from the other day.
You know, as a as a head coach, you and
play caller, you're making the decision to uh, you know,
I can't really make the decision based upon missing an
open player or having justin one on one for really
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the only time all day, and that ending up the
last thing you think that's going to do is end
up in a in an interception where you you know,
have that run play in mind for fourth and one.
And and that's that's kind of like the quarterback discussion.
I mean, it's play calling is something that uh, you know,
we put a lot of work in as a staff,
and I put a lot of work into it. And
(39:02):
it's if it was you know, it's a results based thing,
play to play, game to game, well aware of that,
but that does not mean that I'm not always evaluating
the best way to uh you know, play each and
every snap sequence of games and ultimately what's best for
this team this year. And I'm doing that and I
and I think you'll see some things reflected in that.
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But also the defense has a hand in it as well.
And the last thing you want to do is just,
you know, do it for the sake of doing it
and then have it be not as productive as you
would hope, you know, just to get some things in
a column somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh, sorry, is that it?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's it, He would clarify, by the way statistical column,
which I think he meant maybe he thought people thought,
you know, like a Roysty column or something.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I hate to say this, but this might be one
of those occasions where a Zim answer would have been better,
less more would have been and like, yeah, we're working
on it. Yeah, we're taking that under consideration. I'm serious.
At the end of it, I know what he's trying
to say, but it's one of those things where the
more you explain it feels like the more you have
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to explain. And all those asterisks asterisks he offers are
Legit could have been a run call turned into a pass.
You got a factor in what you know what what
you're looking at defensively. But I would argue you can
outthink yourself that way too much. And then may be
occasionally said, well, running game is just going good. It's
(40:36):
just going good. We're getting good blocking at the line
of scrimmage now that we got at least most of
our offensive line together, notwithstanding the center right or the
guy we wanted out there at center, who I guess
is getting closer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
His practice windows been open exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It's just just so at the end of it, I
think a more guarded taciturn is that the word answer
might service purpose better than his effort to try to
be in his mind is transparent as you can possibly.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Be.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Well, let me get to a couple more text he
before the top of the R break in Mace, Dan,
you know this better than most. The Minnesota media isn't
exactly jackal like here in Green Bay. Don't strike me
as tough media rooms. Imagine if KS worked in a
large market or placed it as historical excellence. That's from
Ryan in uh minnetaka antaka or Menatrista. Oh no, let
(41:39):
me be accurate, Mediatricia, my apology. It's Miniatrista. I don't
disagree with that. I this is not this is not
a hardcore in your face and her. I'm not saying
you know that that the Jackals, Seaffert, Guestling included, aren't
doing their jobs, but I would say this isn't a
(42:01):
place where you're going to get a lot of real frontal,
you know, in your face questioning that might even in
some people's minds, and even some Jackal's minds go over
the line, but that in a lot of places they
just go in part because that's the norm. It's more
expected so it's not like there's a I think that
(42:22):
that that this guy's under in that sense, a huge
media siege by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Somebody also had texted, well.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
What if what if the Vikings had followed up their
victory over the Lions by beating the Ravens. I think
the implication seems to be there's too much sky is falling?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Would would would? Would people be saying different things right now?
The answer is probably.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, because what we've all been looking for this year
is any measure of consistency that Okay, something's.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Starting to build, something's starting to take hold.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And that's why as good as the Lions game was,
it still counts. There's not as much discussion about it
now because of what you were back home against a
good opponent, but a beatable opponent as far as I'm concerned,
And you didn't play even well, you know, you didn't
even play close enough to have a chance to win.
So yeah, I mean, there can always be overreaction to
(43:20):
any one week, right, but I think we tried to
be pretty measured about the Lions game.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Great game, great all around game.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
We've talked the week before about total system failure, this
was a total system success offense, defense, special teams.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
But that you see around the league.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Pretty much every team has one or two or three
games like that where they beat somebody they're not supposed to,
or they play really well and dominate. The idea is, well,
why do you get to that place that you want
to be like where they were last year? Is you
got to have a greater level of consistency, and we're
just not seeing it from this club. Mason your face.
Lots of college football conversation yet to come if you
(44:02):
have questions for him. Six four, six, eight six bratch On,
Brian Cafe and text line. Kessler will follow a very
busy top five at five
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one minute and fifty three seconds past the hour of
three o'clock that is Central Standard time. Welcome you back
(00:23):
to a midweek edition of the Bumper to Bumper program
and guards. He reminds me just before we go on
the air that it is a three hour tour today,
three hour tour vikings x's and o's into Golden Golpher
men's basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Correct, that's the schedule.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Golden Golfer men's basketball undefeated, Golden Gover women's basketball undefeated.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is that correct? Gophers tonight all r at the University
of Missouri? Is that correct? Isn't it Missouri University? Is it?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I thought you I don't remember. I thought maybe it's
Marquette University, University of Missouri, Marquette University.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's who your club dominated yesterday by Did we run
up the score a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, like ninety seven ninety one, forty seven, ninety one
forty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My god, and Marquette's not supposed to be horrible, they're
not test Yeah, So maybe that's a good sign for
your favorite club or one of your You got so
many clubs, that's true, one of your favorite clubs. So
we'll see what the Gopher men I have odd. I'm
going to admit it, I have not paid. I've paid
close enough attention to read game accounts, but I'm waiting
(01:35):
for more legitimate opponents. And it sounds like this one
might be a little bit and it's.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
On the road. Yes, very different. I mean House of
Pain at Missouri.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Most people know that's one of those places where Tigers
teams is that they call it?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Sure, yeah, that works from me.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'll say this, you will like how they play well,
there's no question about that that you could tell just
by watching his previous teams.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, style of play. And again in the end, it's
going to come down to winning or losing. Of course,
ives of getting people back in the barn. But esthetically,
I think it's going to be easier to like because
of the style. As you say, the ball moves, the
players move correctly. Those things are one hundred percent true.
By the way, do we give I gave a I
(02:19):
issued a full pelf to your guy, our guy, Richard Patino.
Did you see his tweet from about eighteen minutes ago?
I did not know Monday night was on me, I
will be better, we will be better tough one Friday
night at Iowa, so I gave him a full pelf.
(02:45):
What happened Monday night? Did they lose to somebody they
weren't supposed to lose to? Did he make a couple
of boneheaded decisions in the second half of the game.
Do we know exactly why Richard Patino is saying I'm
the guy. Don't point the finger anyplace else but at me.
I will accept a full pelf for my coaching performance.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They got run out of the gym by Ooh. Did
Steve Nash go to Santa Clara? Yes, I think that's right. Yeah,
by Steve Nash and Santa Clara eighty seven sixty eighth
Santa Clara.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Any good?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think they're okay, They're fine, they're coached by I
think it was home. They also lost their exhibition game
earlier this year like that. Rich Betino, for those who
don't remember, is now at Xavier.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
He is. Yes, he's not in New Mexico anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Correct, And they grinded to a victory over Lemoyne last Thursday.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Plucky.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, people underestimate lamoy I always had under what you've
always said, is underestimate Leamoye.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
At your own parr own peril. That's right.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, So it's not going great for him in your
zero at Xavier, and so he's had a couple of
those two.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He had to send out a tweet they can't go
the pelf. Learn you can't go pelf every time? Exactly right,
exactly right.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, Well you had to remind people that it was
an exhibition and it didn't count, which is what Dan
Munson once had to do. That's right when Winona State
came in here and beat him at the bar, and
that's not the company you want to be in.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dan Munson, there's a name from the past. Is he
still coaching?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think he is at Eastern Washington really, because remember
he got fired at Long Beach Stations. They made him
finish the season and then they made the tournament. Then
they made the tournament, was a good story. They ran
the table. So now you think he's Eastern Wide. I
think he's back in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think don't call me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I would still be coaching the Gophers, who if
he were able to knock off Northwestern in the conference tournament.
I'm convinced that that was what killed him. He just couldn't.
That's Northwestern, you know. The style play just doesn't match
up with what we like to do. Bill Carmody, Baby,
I was there for some of those games. Brat, Shawn
and Brian Kavan. Text On has open at six four,
six eighty six. This is a program we affectionately referred
(04:53):
to as the Afternoon Ardvark here on the fan Barrero
and guards you with you until six o'clock tonight on
a very ball meet for again almost mid November, Minnesota
afternoon and a high is it tomorrow or Friday? The
high is listed as sixty five degrees? That'd be Friday?
(05:14):
Is it Friday? Sixty five degrees? That's outstanding? And then
I think the bottom drops out, but who can argue
at this point? Very good guest lineup today, including the
two Wednesday regulars. Kessler in studio at five point fifteen
as guards he said, and then Mason your face to
give us what I hope will be an entire hour
(05:35):
of Who's Your Hotline? Between four and five o'clock, I
might allow a little bit of previewing of Gopher's Oregon
and a little bit of review of Oregon versus Iowa.
But other than that, it's gonna be a lot of
who's your hotline? For sure, and maybe a little bit
on the juicy new controversy surrounding Brian Kelly at LSU,
(05:56):
because as I understand it, LSU is starting to say,
we're gonna be we fire you, or we're gonna be
able to fire you for cause, which means that we
don't have to pay you. Not surprisingly, Brian Kelly's people
are saying, not so fast, my friend. So there's an
interesting battle breaking out there, like what would be the cause?
Would it be for affecting a Southern accent? Is that
(06:18):
enough to be caused to fire him?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Is that fraud? I'm sure fraud is in the contract.
Is that a form of fraud? That might argue that
that very well might be? Did you get to see
the Northern lights last night?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But I heard they were supposed to be spectacular, were they?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I'm doing the game last night, Gopher's Marquette, and
my phone just starts going off with like eight texts
from my wife, which I assume means there's been an accident. Right, Sure,
it's not good, And so I look down and it's
just like twenty photos of the entire neighborhood out admiring
the northern lights. They looked spectacular. They did look good,
(06:56):
and you can see him from everywhere. It sounds like
so even in a metro area showed up. Okay, there's
that arts here. That's better.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Obviously if you're in a place away from major cities
and all the lights.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's what my in laws would tell you. You got to
get up.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You got to get up north by Lake Superior to
really appreciate the northern lights. But if you city it's
want to, you know, take in the junior varsity Northern
lights you can. They looked pretty good. They were in
our driveway. Yeah, basically the neighbor girls and our kids
were in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They loved them.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Clayton from Rochester, Dan New Wrinkle to the Pelf scale.
When Koc says it's on him to get the running
game going, could you call it the purple Pelf? Yes,
I guess you could.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We could.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Did he say that to get it's on him to
get the running game going? I don't when did he
say that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Maybe he said that today, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I do have Well, it's not but if that's an
accurate reading, the issue isn't getting the running game going,
it's using the running game that is going. There, You go, right,
I mean the running game was going this last game.
But I indeed digress. They like us, They really like us.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did you? I'm assuming you've heard about it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We are going to be the center of the Netflix
universe very soon, and the state of hockey.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is bursting with probube. I'm sure we are. You know
about this story, I've heard ro Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
This is Neil Justin's report out of Star Tribune dot
com eight part series in which Michelle Monaghan been in
a lot of motion pictures? Has she not Mission Impossible?
Three True Detective? Wasn't she in the remake of.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Oh My God? What was the Charles Groden movie that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Was made in Minnesota and then remade many many years later.
It'll come to me in a minute. I thought she
was in that film too. She's been in a bunch
of movies. Not Beethoven, No, I think of that's not
the one. She's gonna play the coach of a Minnesota
high school hockey team in an up having drama for Netflix.
(09:02):
It's going to be an eight part series hasn't been
named yet, set in a fictional town called South Dorothy,
South Dorothy, Minnesota, and apparently the bit is the local
school has a reputation for churning out future National Hockey
(09:24):
League stars.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But the back story is that the team.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Is in disarray because of a bise should say, bus
accident which takes the lives of several players and the coach.
So you got drama and tragedy early.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's the setup. So she's going to take.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The role on the role of Harper Sullivan, the coach's widow,
who is tasked with resurrecting the team's spirit. Sadly, the
show will not be filmed here. That's what I'm filmed
in Vancouver. That's what I'm bummed about. Yeah, you know
what it is. We probably don't have enough film incentis,
we don't give credits. We don't believe that kind of
(10:05):
I know, we should work on that. We should make
this a Hollywood destination for films, make it more attractive
for hockey.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It was good enough for Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Correct. No other well known cast names been announced, but
there's some heavy hitters behind the scenes, including showrunner Bridget
Badard and co executive producer Sean Levy, Stranger Things all
the light we Cannot see, which, by the way, I
thought was not as good as the book. But that's
another story for another day. With its visceral sports backdrop
(10:37):
and a story grounded in deep humanity, we cannot wait
to bring this show to a global.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Audience.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
According to the executive producer Sean Levy, Nick Nevada, relatively
unknown compared with the other executives, is credited as the
show's creator. Now you may know this, this is not
the first time Monahan has played one of us. Do
you care to take a wild guess or maybe more
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than a guess at the.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Other I read read this story. I read the story.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So that's cheating North Country, which I don't remember seeing
two thousand and five and it came out twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Set it's a good song by Rocket.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Play in the Iron Range. Now, can we assume that
Coach Sullivan Coach Harper Sullivan will be saddled immediately with sexism,
that there will be people who will not accept no,
(11:42):
I should back up.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Do we know.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
The team is boy players or girl players? It's not
really stated in the story. It is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's true. I'm gonna assume it's boy play. I'm assuming
it's boys. So I'm a guess.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm gonna guess one of the early story you can
milk at least two or three of the of the
eight parts out of this is what. She doesn't know
anything about hockey, right, great that I'm glad that she
was coach's wife, But what does she know about the
blue line?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What does she know about the Penley kill?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So I'm guessing she'll have to deal with that right
off the bat, and you can build all sorts of
spinoffs from that on that basis alone, could you not?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm wondering did Josh Broughton have a role in this
at all? Because he should? Oh yeah, I didn't even
think of that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He should.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's got to be some authenticity if they're not going
to film it here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Can he skate?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, he's from Minnesota, so probably even though I can't
that I'm from here.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
He's probably too old though to be one of the players.
Did he be one of the dads of the players.
Oh yeah, that's true. He'd be about the age of
a height. You're right. I wonder if they still have
casting to do. He's already played a dad in Silver
Space in touch with him a lot more than I am.
Does he did he know anything about this? I'm sure
he knew about it. He'll probably send me his casting
call audition in the next five minutes. YEA need to
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watch North Country has an Oscar nominated role played by
Charlie Thorn. Okay, maybe I should. Maybe it's it's I
do actually remember hearing good things about it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There is a ghost town for all practical purposes named
Dorothy west of Red Lake Falls near Thief River Falls
in northwestern Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Peter Popsicle is pointing out to Dan that the Northern
Lights colors are the same colors as the Minnesota Wild
Dot dot.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Dot didn't help them last night, State we got a point,
not enough.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You're getting greedy. We're not gonna get two points every night.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
It's the Sharks. They're the greatest young team ever. But
they're up one h third period.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think their defense is playing better, but yeah, you
can look it up. Two points is better than one.
And by the way, that's a bit of a foreshadowing.
There's gonna be a lot of math on this show.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Too. Oh, that's not good. A lot of math. Well,
I'm not going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Actually, I am going to ask you to solve one problem, okay,
because it's very instructive. Regarding this particular as a society
related story.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
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Speaker 1 (14:31):
There's just a lot of good stuff coming into the
Bradshawn Brancafan text line right now.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If you're just joining the program.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We were talking earlier off the start of the show
about the big news that we're not going to be
flying over country. According to Netflix, they are working on
or about to begin filming a brand spanking.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
New eight parts series.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Eight parts is substantial, pretty good for maybe year one
and then if it goes well. Allegedly it goes on
from there. Set in a fix little Minnesota town, and
it's about the high school hockey team that has dealt
first with tragedy and now it's trying. It's, it's it's
there's an attempt to put it back together. But because
they had the legendary head coach was killed in this
(15:15):
particular bus accident. It turns out his wife, the coach's widow,
Harper Sullivan, is going to coach the team and Larry
Mindela guy who has a lot of good sources, as
you know in the hockey community, reports that lu Nanny
(15:37):
has already stated he does not like the way he
is portrayed in the movie or the person that's well,
you know what I did think of Louis, but I
didn't think of it in that clever a context. Mine
was just going to be I wonder if they're gonna
use Louie as you know, like, what do you use
(16:00):
for movies like that? Not experts but consultants? I might usually,
So that's not that funny. This is fun This is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So Larry mightilmost did he walk out of the premiere
or almost.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Walk out of the premiere. I think he walked out
of it. I'm pretty sure he did. Think he did. Yeah,
he still hasn't over it. He still isn't over it
twenty two years later. Is this true?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Or is this somebody trying to get me going? This
is Tom from Savage today at his presser. When asked
what the Bears have done to improve Caleb Williams performances,
KAOC responded, they've established the run. I could hear the
dinner bell of the ardvark. That's from Tom out of Savage.
(16:45):
Did he really say that?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Did he say it with a straight face. I got
to figure it out because I'm listened to most of
them conference. Hey, he's just trying to get me going.
He may have said that. He I know he talks
about just Caleb getting the experience and having his success
last year at the end of the year and all
of that. I didn't hear that specifically, but I'll take
the texture at his word. I do have about a
two minute clip to play during the top five to
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five that you might be interested in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
What do we want to play it sooner or no?
We save it for that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's kind of up to you it's about his third
down play calling.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh okay, all right, well we'll hold on to it
at least for now, and maybe we can get into
it a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
For the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Do you have a pen? Yeah? I'm looking for paper, though,
so just hang out. I don't have a piece of paper.
I got to get some. Nobody has paper anymore because
nobody uses paper anymore. I use a lot. It's just
over in my bag over here.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, I see, all right, will you reach for your bag.
I'll mention the guest lineup the rest of the way.
Mace in studio beginning at four oh two, Kessler in
studio right after the top five at five. Because we
are out early today at six o'clock this evening. There's
a lot of good stuff to get to with with
special K. And he didn't even include in the notes.
(18:04):
I saw the item you and I both predicted would
be at the top of his list. I think, did
you notice that? I did notice that, But that was
almost as predictable. I think he knows it's so big
it's gonna be I see, I guess that could be.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That could be it.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Because I'm too obvious for him to just like you,
you know, throw it in there. Do you have the
paper pen in the paper?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah? All right, here's the arithmetic.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think this would be an arithmetic problem I'm asking
you to solve. Okay, sure, I have very little confidence.
Seven plus two yep equals blank plus six. Seven plus
two equals blank plus six.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Isn't that three plus six? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
That even for you, you didn't have to hesitate all that much.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I always hesitate because you think it's a trick
if you have a team plus so obvious that I
can't possibly have gotten it, even though that one's fairly simple.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
The University of California's San Diego Math department administered a
test to one hundred and thirty eight students in a
remedial math class, and twenty five percent of them got
that question wrong. Seven plus two equals blanks plus six.
One four could not answer a fairly simple question.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The job's done.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
We can go home now, and we come to find
out that you see. San Diego in General has released
a new report documenting what they describe as a steep
decline in the academic preparedness of its freshmen. Here's the
key number, the number of entering students needing remedial math
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or worse, if they couldn't solve that very difficult equation
has exploded from one out of one hundred to one
out of every eights. Frustrating, they've had to create a
second remedial class covering elementary and middle school math skills
in addition to the one covering gaps.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
From high school.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Their report also shows that nearly one in five students
failed to meet entry level writing.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Requirements.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
This deterioration coincided with the wait for it, COVID nineteen
pandemic and its effects on education. The elimination of standardized testing,
a hair brained idea that now I think education folks
have figured out and are trying to reverse great inflation,
(20:48):
a subject we've talked about from time to time, and
the expansion of admissions from under resourced high schools. I mean,
that's now again, this is one report, it's one study,
it's one school. That's a tough look, though, but that's
(21:08):
that's a frightening look, and it is a reminder that
as much as COVID nineteen and the original response to
it was unavoidable and was the correct response.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
As we talked about as the as the the story
sort of.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Developed, there were I think way too many schools, way
too many school systems that were way too cautious about reopening,
and that has come at a cost that everybody predicted
was going to be considerable. And now I think we're
getting more and more evidence of exactly that. And this
is I mean, I mean, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Let me repeat the fill in this box.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Seven plus two equals blank plus so I think, I mean,
I don't even think it's that tricky where you go,
let's see what's so, what's seven and two? Yep, well
that would be nine.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That'd be nine.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So if six is already there, then I only need
three more to get to nine.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Twenty five percent of them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
These are kids headed to college, not headed to middle school.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, I mean that.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
My third grader could do that. I'm pretty sure my
first grader could probably do that as well. And given
my math geneticsly yeah, that I've passed on to them.
That's not a reflection on me or kids. It's just
that that's tough.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That's that's devastating, man, there's no coming out of that.
Nobody wins when standards are lowered. That's the great to
all the equity folks man. That's that's the cluelessness of
that position. Nobody wins bringing everybody down, that's the thing.
It's it's a losing proposition. Teacher, techs are coming in
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fast and furious. Example, I can go to forty two today, right, yes,
you can.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm a teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know you do not know how hard.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It is to get kids to focus in class and
just do basic items like take notes, pay attention, complete assignments,
and focus on what is directly in front of them.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
We've made a huge mistake. Hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Scroll Dout's give this fair representation in incorporating technology into education,
and there are many districts that have one to one
ratios of technology and devices for kids all the way
down to kindergarten. The team brain rot excuse me, the
term brain rot that many of the middle and high
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school students use to describe themselves or their peers is
truly what we are seeing in education. I can create
the most lavish, hands on, exciting activity for my kids
to do in class, but I will have to compete
with ten thousand different distractions they can find online and
the twenty to three hundred and second attention span they
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currently have have because of their constant scrolling. We have
a generation of screen agers get it as yeah, headed
to college in the workforce, leave some bounds behind where
they need to be well.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Can we in.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Part reverse this by what seemed to be a growing
trend in favor of retiring the phones to the front
of the classroom. Because there's more and more school systems,
it seems I wish we would to be going in
that direction. Can that How much will that change? Teacher
guy or gal? Can you mention where this study was published?
University of California, San Diego. Apparently my kid is in
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first grade and learning math equays and just like that,
that is startling. Bill Maher always says our high schools
are graduating kids who know nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
This is from area code four four to two. No,
four four three. You know four four three.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You're very exotic sounding area code four four three. I'll
look at up four.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Four three not shocking if you work in schools at all.
Eastern Maryland, Baltimore, Annapolis, Columbia.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Good to hear from Eastern Maryland. Have you ever seen
cashiers try to make change? Well? I don't even think
anybody tries to make change anymore because nobody pays in cash,
do they?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Some people do very rarely, very rarely.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Though the AI generation has come of age now there
are people who's comeback will be well, I can just
figure it out on a calculator, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But but I mean, I'm not sitting here saying.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You know that that you got to know every complicated
algebraic equation, right, because many of us don't, and we've
you know, survived, okay, but there are basics that you
think are helpful, just learning how to cope and to
exist and to advance into whatever you are attempting.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
To be.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Uh, seven six Three guys complaining about the fact that
we're out again at six?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
He or she is suggesting that let's just stop with
the pretense, just make the show three to six.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I'd have no argument with that. I don't think you
would either. We'd be fine with that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
But we've been down this road before, and they've got
like these fancy charts and analytics about how this station
makes money, and there's apparently a very big difference between
six and six thirty and six thirty and seven and
six and six thirty is still big enough that I
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don't think they're going to let us out at least
on purpose. Now, maybe that'll change someday.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
They're only going to let us out tonight at six,
Tomorrow at six, and Friday at six.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Is that way a Friday too?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Go go for pregame, Go for pregame. I'm annoyed as
it is that it's an eight o'clock game. I wanted
to be out at five. You were hoping for like
a six o'clock kick. I yes, I was hoping to
be out at well, yeah, for seons. I would even
take it's seven pregame five, Sure, that's what I thought
it was. But it's eight, eight o'clock started it is?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Is it Corvales? No, that's so hot. That's Oregon State,
it is. Yeah, we're in Eugene, Gene Oregon. Chaos did
say that when they check out of a run and
complete a pass for a good game, he counts it
in his running game.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He did say that a check from what does that
even mean?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
He says that if they have a run play and
then they get up to the line of scrimmage and
they check out of it because they've shown run but
then the defense is more susceptible to the pass, and
they pass for eleven yards. They basically count that as
a run. Win is what he said. That's just so precious.
(27:42):
It's it's complicated. Oh my god, Okay, it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We're happy for him. A couple more good there's a
lot of good texts. They're coming on a number of
I think, by the way, we are very close to
a full Zim from chaos. If there's a couple more bad,
well I will this. I have to be really careful
how I say this, how I present this, because I
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have to protect.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Sources. You know, it's some important to protect your sources.
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So I'm going to try to speak in generalities here,
But what I am hearing is that the level of
tension in general between the Jackals and the head coach
(28:36):
has never approached the current level, That it is palpable,
it is personal, and that it's reached a place for
whoever you want to blame, that it has never come
close to being before. And so to your point on
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the inside, when the cameras aren't going, we might already
be there.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We already might be at full Zim.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Or interest interesting, so you know, and then you want
to almost examine what's that about?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Is it just the tension that comes with you're big?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You know, you're you're an NFL head coach. You got
people coming at you all over the place. Yep, this
season hasn't gone the way it was supposed to go.
It has not been smooth to this point. You're coming
off fourteen and three, but you are aware that your
administration that you're a part of is still looking for
its first playoff victory, right, and that there's it happens
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to people. They get tenser, they start wondering where it's
going to go, They start wondering how much heat they're
going to get, maybe internally. But yeah, I don't so
to your point, I don't think you're wrong. And this
goes a lot of this goes back. It was already
manifesting itself in Europe. It was big time behind again,
behind the scenes, that stuff that was necessarily playing out publicly,
(30:01):
but that it was definitely there. I just in watching
the press conferences, my theory, I sense it just how
he looks, how he's talking.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's the same koc.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He still fills it up, right, he still gives you
a three minute answers, which are great. But my theory
is this is the first time he's ever been truly,
I think, questioned and rattled as a head coach because
it's been a pretty smooth ride as a head coach.
Right yes, he got here, they start winning with Cousins
(30:32):
right away, They've got all the crazy you know, one
score games, the Colts game, the Bills game, and then
he's got all the injuries the next year or so. Yes,
you're gonna get kind of a grace period through all
of that. The pastor Nott comes in and everything looks crazy.
We know how last year went. This is the first
year where it's bumpy. Well, he hasn't been beaten up
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like I was talking to Rosen about it, because I
was saying the same thing to Rosen, and I was saying,
I think, I don't know if he's ever going to
melt down like Wood or Denny Wood or Tys would
like Tyson was in his first head coaching John I
guess him was too, but they haven't been. This is
the first time he's really been through the ringer, and
I think he's not coming out of it great.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, I think part of it too.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I think if the longer you're in the place, the
more pressure, if there's not enough of a payoff, so
then that starts building. You Sorry, when am I going
to start being on the clock. I think that's part
of it. I think another big part of it is
I think he believes that his level of what we
can kid about the word salad stuff, and we have
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a good text on that from even earlier today. But
in his mind he thinks he's he makes himself available
more than most coaches and is willing to take as
many questions, even if you don't always love his answers. Sure,
and so I'm sure in his world he's going, well, guys, yeah,
(31:54):
all I do is try to give and now you're
gonna hammer me. But what he leaves out again is
you got to follow the story. And again one of
those stories that I don't think the organization appreciates the
way it's been covered.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Is there.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think I'm in the group that believes that there
is every reason to believe that the QB could have
come back before he did. And I think that's different
than saying they made up the injury. But I think
they slow played it. I absolutely believe they slow played it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Think of it this way.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I understand for two weeks he was only listed as
the emergency quarterback. But if you're listed as the emergency
quarterback technically, then you got to be ready to play
if you have to correct true. So I think and
and I and I I got it. You know, I
would say to him, I sat down and say, you
may not appreciate the way the story is being covered.
(32:53):
You may even not like the ways nationally some of
the stuff's been written about whether it was a made
up injury. I don't think it's a made of injury.
But I think they slow played it for whatever reasons.
Give them more time to take a deep breath, whatever
the case may be. I believe that's true. And he
may disagree and say, I know what happened. And so
there is a lot more that's going going on here
(33:15):
real quick. I actually like to show the best when
we're exploring two subjects in subjects that are utterly unrelated.
In the same segment, math stupidity from our college income
and college class and the current state of media relations
(33:36):
between the Jackals and the head coach. I'm a teacher
in Minnesota and the screens. Issue isn't an issue for
phones they are away for the day. If your students
are on their phone, it's because you aren't paying attention
to the students well enough. Yes, someone will sneak by
and get a good look at it, but that's a
few and far between. The issue with students not doing
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as well as they did in the past is because
families do not spend enough time and put priority to
their education when they have so many other extra curricular
activities that they prioritize over sitting down and helping their
student with their work. That's a controversial accusation. I don't
know if I fully agree with it, but I don't
(34:17):
want to get defensive. It's an interesting point of view
though definitely worth mentioning. And I guess this probably all
depends on the family involved and the amount of input
that parents are involved with as well, So it's a
combination of pretty much all of those things.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I believe. Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We'll pause here, don't forget Mason your Face top of
the hour. We'll get into a couple of other controversies
that are kind of stuck in my crab before Mason
your Face takes over. Kessler will follow the top five
at five. Michelle Monhead played in the remake Very Funny
(35:16):
Read two thousand and seven remake of a motion picture
called The Heartbreak Kid, which originally the original was filmed
in part in Minnesota. In fact, Sybil Shepherd Key in
that movie was a University of Minnesota student. Father played
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by very shall we say tight lipped Eddie Albert and
in the remake, Ben Stiller Michelle Monaghan were among the
stars of that motion picture.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I was trying to scramble for.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I can't believe I didn't see that one. I am
surprised you didn't either. It's still that would in seven
that would have been a big It's a funny film.
It's a funny, it's got It's not a film for
the whole family. I wouldn't say necessarily, there's some stuff
you'd have to explain, although maybe you already have.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I watched and so not a lot of secrets.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Unfortunately, the factor that in burrel Oaks Chef Guy writes
Dan Kosey's words out today, answering the direct question in
his past run quotient gave me a miss mister Misty
headache on my way home you guys need to play
those three to four minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
A mister misty headache.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It was mush mouthed nonsense. Is that what you have
for us? You're two minutes different.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, that's what I have. What you want me to do?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You want me to grab it time? Sure, I'm laughing
about the mister misty headache. That is very specific. Have
you ever had a mister misty a dairy queen?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's like a slushy. Oh, slushy, That's what I remember
from my younger days. But is it really if you
drink it too fast?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Very much?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
So?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Gotcha? All right? So this is KOC today on the
run pass quotient thing.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yes, Kevin O'Connell on the third and short play calling.
And this is in its entirety unedited, first.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
And foremost, like like in any you know, healthy discussion.
I think you've got to establish what are we talking
about from a standpoint of thirtain ones, third and twos,
third and threes, third and two to five? How defenses
are going to align, you know, based upon you know,
the front structures that they want to kind of get in.
I think you know, we've had multiple runs called in
(37:34):
those situations where parameters maybe take us out of those looks,
or we have a run pass solution on them and
we've converted. Or we've had multiple run plays called on
early downs where we've thrown the ball and got an
eleven yard completion, got a nine yard completion, and we
look at those as statistically part of the run game.
I know that doesn't necessarily fall under that category as
(37:57):
a whole, but there's no question the you know, we've
we've had success specifically this year in the short yardage situations.
There's been you know, a couple uh, you know, schematical
things that have caused us to not convert, but more
than likely when we get a hat on a hat
and give the ball to JP or Aaron, we've we've
converted those. And I think it's just a matter of
(38:19):
once again, like in the moment, whether it's the third one,
third and one chance against Atlanta early on in the
year or the third and one from the other day.
You know, as a as a head coach, you and
play caller, you're making the decision to uh, you know,
I can't really make the decision based upon missing an
open player or having justin one on one for really
(38:42):
the only time all day, and that ending up the
last thing you think that's going to do is end
up in a in an interception where you you know,
have that run play in mind for fourth and one.
And and that's that's kind of like the quarterback discussion.
I mean, it's play calling is something that uh, you know,
we put a lot of work in as a staff,
and I put a lot of work into it. And
(39:02):
it's if it was you know, it's a results based thing,
play to play, game to game, well aware of that,
but that does not mean that I'm not always evaluating
the best way to uh you know, play each and
every snap sequence of games and ultimately what's best for
this team this year. And I'm doing that and I
and I think you'll see some things reflected in that.
(39:24):
But also the defense has a hand in it as well.
And the last thing you want to do is just,
you know, do it for the sake of doing it
and then have it be not as productive as you
would hope, you know, just to get some things in
a column somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh, sorry, is that it?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's it, He would clarify, by the way statistical column,
which I think he meant maybe he thought people thought,
you know, like a Roysty column or something.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I hate to say this, but this might be one
of those occasions where a Zim answer would have been better,
less more would have been and like, yeah, we're working
on it. Yeah, we're taking that under consideration. I'm serious.
At the end of it, I know what he's trying
to say, but it's one of those things where the
more you explain it feels like the more you have
(40:14):
to explain. And all those asterisks asterisks he offers are
Legit could have been a run call turned into a pass.
You got a factor in what you know what what
you're looking at defensively. But I would argue you can
outthink yourself that way too much. And then may be
occasionally said, well, running game is just going good. It's
(40:36):
just going good. We're getting good blocking at the line
of scrimmage now that we got at least most of
our offensive line together, notwithstanding the center right or the
guy we wanted out there at center, who I guess
is getting closer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
His practice windows been open exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It's just just so at the end of it, I
think a more guarded taciturn is that the word answer
might service purpose better than his effort to try to
be in his mind is transparent as you can possibly.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Be.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Well, let me get to a couple more text he
before the top of the R break in Mace, Dan,
you know this better than most. The Minnesota media isn't
exactly jackal like here in Green Bay. Don't strike me
as tough media rooms. Imagine if KS worked in a
large market or placed it as historical excellence. That's from
Ryan in uh minnetaka antaka or Menatrista. Oh no, let
(41:39):
me be accurate, Mediatricia, my apology. It's Miniatrista. I don't
disagree with that. I this is not this is not
a hardcore in your face and her. I'm not saying
you know that that the Jackals, Seaffert, Guestling included, aren't
doing their jobs, but I would say this isn't a
(42:01):
place where you're going to get a lot of real frontal,
you know, in your face questioning that might even in
some people's minds, and even some Jackal's minds go over
the line, but that in a lot of places they
just go in part because that's the norm. It's more
expected so it's not like there's a I think that
(42:22):
that that this guy's under in that sense, a huge
media siege by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Somebody also had texted, well.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
What if what if the Vikings had followed up their
victory over the Lions by beating the Ravens. I think
the implication seems to be there's too much sky is falling?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Would would would? Would people be saying different things right now?
The answer is probably.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, because what we've all been looking for this year
is any measure of consistency that Okay, something's.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Starting to build, something's starting to take hold.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And that's why as good as the Lions game was,
it still counts. There's not as much discussion about it
now because of what you were back home against a
good opponent, but a beatable opponent as far as I'm concerned,
And you didn't play even well, you know, you didn't
even play close enough to have a chance to win.
So yeah, I mean, there can always be overreaction to
(43:20):
any one week, right, but I think we tried to
be pretty measured about the Lions game.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Great game, great all around game.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
We've talked the week before about total system failure, this
was a total system success offense, defense, special teams.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
But that you see around the league.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Pretty much every team has one or two or three
games like that where they beat somebody they're not supposed to,
or they play really well and dominate. The idea is, well,
why do you get to that place that you want
to be like where they were last year? Is you
got to have a greater level of consistency, and we're
just not seeing it from this club. Mason your face.
Lots of college football conversation yet to come if you
(44:02):
have questions for him. Six four, six, eight six bratch On,
Brian Cafe and text line. Kessler will follow a very
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