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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
You big, Harry Potter guy, I do enjoy it. I
remember we had the conversation of what house you would
be in? That's that's we did have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire opened in theaters
twenty years ago today, November eighteen, twenty years ago today.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm with you, it's not my favor I never thought
I was never you know, Dragon's guy. It was everyone
was like, oh, come on, no, but I and a
lot of it has to do with the kid, obviously,
but I I could watch those films over and over again, endlessly,
almost on a loop.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Sometimes I end up doing exactly that usually surround this
time of year. So now that's true. Christmas e time,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
And then they're also I think it's gonna start, is
it in the spring, or whether there's there's a you know,
a new version where they're doing a series like I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Know if it's Netflix, Apple or HBO? Is it HBO? Okay,
when's that supposed to drop? We sure, but we have
like castings. You can go in and see who's hairy.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be tough
to match what they did, but I understand why they
would want to try.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
What do we got.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Time now for the obligatory Kevin Faulness Minnesota wild mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And Wilder on a roll. Corella Harr's in back to
Poldia try tipped why by art second? Frock fifteen seconds
to go in overtime? So Corella up top, Boldie one touchback,
Superelo process.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Caprices do it over time.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
They're definitely on a roll. It's the thing I warn
you about though, when you get behind in this league.
Plenty of hockey left to play. We're not even to
the new year mark, but it's hard to climb in
this league just by the nature of the point. So
the while they have to keep it up. Some line news,
My guy Danila Yurov is gonna get his big shot tomorrow.
You're excited about the top line, I'm fired up about it.
He gets to set, are they going to give him

(02:24):
more than five minutes? Well, that's exactly what I was
gonna say. If he struggles early, I really really really
don't want this to be a you give him two shifts.
Well they didn't produce. So Ryan Hartman, welcome back aboard.
I would like to see this whole game go through
and see what happens, and I would like multiple games.
But e'rerov Center's Caprice Off Zucarello that starts later on.

(02:48):
We'll talk to Louis in more detail about it. That shot,
to me, one of the most dangerous things about a
capriso is I feel like he's all ready in the
act of shooting at just as the puck arrives.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
That's how fast, and it's off of his stick and
into the net. I think that's one of his underrated skills,
is the the you know, the quickness with which he
gets the shot off and they take care of business. Now,
did did the opponent get jobbed on the call that
gave us the extra skater in ot?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
What do you think? What do you make of that?
Was it TICKI taki? Yeah, a little bit, but they
were calling it that way all games. You're saying, okay, so,
but it was take I would have been upsetifyed with
them Wolves. They had a very impressive win against let's
see the Mavericks ninety six. They get the Wizards tomorrow

(03:40):
at Target Center. Your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Jaden McDaniels now listed as questionable for tomorrow's game with
a wrist. Don't know much about that. Don't even remember
any particular play in the in the game. As we
talked about earlier, they are in a good mode of
taking out the teams they're supposed to take. The Mavericks
are a mess. They've got about eight people out hurt.

(04:03):
Their offense is a disaster and right now, and Minnesota
took full advantage of it from almost the beginning of
the game. I think the Wolves are sitting at nine
to five.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
At this point.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
But again, you're you're you're going to have to start occasionally,
you know, beating better teams.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
The next game, that was the first game back when
Edwards was just coming back from injury. Maybe that's part
of the story. By the way, tom Creen is scheduled
to join us tomorrow at three fifteen. He's just been
in town for some games. I think now he's back
at home in Florida, but he's going to give us
some of his wit and wisdom at three fifteen tomorrow.
But they're offensively, they look very good, and they're again

(04:46):
Historically this team has tended to let inferior teams hang.
I don't even know would have been impossible to let
Dallas hang. They're such a mess right now with so
many people out hurt. But they're putting teams out of
their misd read more quickly. That's the first step in
wherever they intend to go, and I know they obviously
intend to try to go to some place far away

(05:08):
past the conference finals.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You mentioned McDaniel's questionable with a left wrist, brain available,
Dante DiVincenzo face mask he will probably be wearing, but
at least you know he's playing out Freeman Shannon Jr.
And I'm gonna go with Zakarski. That's good enough for me.
We'll go. Did you watch Monday Night Football? And if
you did, I'm sorry. I didn't watch a lot of it, man,

(05:30):
I I didn't. I And I'm one of those guys
who love Pete Carroll being back in the league. But
maybe the Raiders are beyond even his coaching expertise at
this point, because they're just I mean it, I know
what Tom Brady's gonna do, but it looks like they're
going to have to do something fairly, fairly drastic. And
who's the veteran quarterback starter for them? And Gino? Yeah, Gino.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I know people kind of celebrated his resurrection a year ago,
but I he looks pretty done to me. I they
just look like they need so much help at so
many places. And you know, Dallas offensively actually looks quite good.
Whether they're capable again, same thing of beating better teams,

(06:14):
I you know, I don't know, but it was.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
It was a very blog game for a Monday nighter
for sure. It feels like football is the hardest to
get out of the basement. It just takes. It just
takes a lot of players, There's no question. An interesting
note out of My Night Football, though, is that Ceedee
Lamb and George Pickens were kept on the bench for
the first series of Monday Nights. You know, their thirty
three sixteen wins. Yes, apparently this is quote from Schottenheimer.

(06:40):
There are some things that were missed, so a conversation
with those guys. So had a conversation with those guys
and that was easy. Oh oh boy, big slap on
the wrist. Things were missed, so they get to sit
out one series.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It's quite a powerful punishment and really laying the hammer down. Yeah,
I guess that does fall into the classification of why
even bother who got just got suspended for a game
for spitting on an opponent?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Chase? Yeah, the game right, And I.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Think it's basically essentially it's a it's a five hundred
thousand dollars loss to him. That's the second spinning incident
we've had. What's going on with the spinning? Is that
making a comeback or are we just noticing it more
because the video. I don't have any idea.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
It's very odd. There's cameras everywhere. Yeah, that's true. Sam.
Chase is appealing the suspension. Someone told Chefty the appeal
will be hurt and ruled by what do you appeal?
Isn't it on? Isn't he on? Isn't he shown spitting?
Or am I wrong? And he said postgame he didn't spit.
The footage clearly shows him spit, So yeah, that's that's

(07:44):
a I think most of us will agree that's a
bridge too far. Whatever you feel like, however you feel
like you're being transgressed, Uh, it is worth noting. And
maybe we'll do this at five fifteen, because Louis, I
don't think it's so five thirty. We haven't talked about
the latest Draymond Green incident with a fan that.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Is rather curious, not surprising in his case, but rather curious.
So maybe we will indeed save that.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I guess I'm doing my best four letter Network impersonation
because I've talked about the Cowboys and now we go here.
Lebron is reportedly aiming to return tonight against the Jazz.
According to Shams, does this move the meter for you
at all, that Lebron is finally back?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I think, you know, I mean, it's good to
have him back. I mean the Lakers are actually played well,
they've got a decent record without him. But I mean
he can as far as we know, he can still play, right,
So yeah, I think it's a I'm curious to see.
I don't view the Lakers as a contender by any means,
but and we all assume this is going to be

(08:50):
his last year.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
But yeah, I mean he's missed. How long has this
season going on? Close to a month right now.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
On the other hand, you say, when you're that age,
I think a certain measure of load management is understandable.
I'm less offended by load management when it's somebody who's
in his forties and has put in a lot of
mileage in a lot of time than it is when it's,
you know, somebody twenty seven years old or thirty years old,
or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
One more clickie. It sounds like Aaron Rodgers is gonna
miss surgery, So now it's kind of Tomin didn't rule
out Aaron Rodgers for the game against the Bears. The
status will determined later this week, so he avoids injury
and avoids surgery to that left wrist.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ay, rog, did you say they're playing the Bears this week? Yes, yeah,
that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And where is that game?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Do we know?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Good question? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Bears are about to embark upon a much tougher part
of their schedule. Okay, they've got a lot of division
games coming. I think they got the Lions and so
I still can't imagine that at any point this season
they'd be in first place and that, which is what
they are for the moment after the Lions disappointing performance
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So a Roge, how do we evaluate how he's played
this year? Great?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think serviceably though they've done They've handled him right
where they're not asking me to do too much, they're
not asking me, and he's he's doing a lot of
short passes. If you like short passes, a Roger is
pretty much your guy. So that's okay for me.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I have it there. It is no bonus bucks.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I don't believe this week we'll get to that Draymond
story and a couple of other texts in just a
matter of minutes and then Luigi, as I said at
five thirty, Good.

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Speaker 3 (10:45):
We've talked over the years about fan deportment and what
is how far? What is the line when it comes
to heckling of players and or coaches, but but usually players,
and there's I think, well, I'd like to think there's

(11:06):
a consensus on this that if you get into language,
and if you get into race, you're getting if you're misogynistic,
the whole bit. There's not a lot of negotiation that
needs to go on the team or I guess security
can boot that individual pretty simply and pretty easily, and

(11:28):
that up up to that point. You pay your ticket
and you can get you know, pretty harsh from time
to time. And the story, I guess the debate has
come up again because of the news surrounding a confrontation
between Draymond Green and a fan.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
This was in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
The Warriors were playing the Pelicans, who were a mess
by the way, And what's interesting is that in this case, well,
let me back up and give you a little more
detail if you're not all that familiar with the story.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think this was Sunday.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So the fan who was I believe seated, is it baseline,
it's definitely front row was chanting at Draymond. Angel Reese
kept us invoking the name of Angel Reese, the WNBA player,

(12:25):
and at one point Draymond then walks up over to
him and kind of gets in his face. Now, there
was nothing physical between the two. They both handled that
part of it. Well, there was a security person over there.
I don't believe the fan was thrown out, and Draymond
kind of misled a little bit the confrontation because when

(12:49):
he talked about it after the game, all he said
was he just kept calling me a woman. It was
a good joke at first, but keep calling me a woman. Well,
what he can left out was that he was this
fan was referring to a specific woman in this case,
as we said of Angel Reese, and the bit was

(13:13):
you can decide for yourself whether this is clever, or
whether this is worth the trouble, or how far do
you go with it. Green had missed five straight shots,
and he'd rebounded the first four of those misses, so,
you know, kind of the joke among you know, Angel
WNA fans and I Angel Reese is can't shoot, but

(13:37):
really good about grabbing your own rebounds. Right, That's the
bit for whatever it's worth. And ultimately, the NBA has
apparently warned Draymond Green, although they haven't find him, so
I what the warning entailed, I'm not exactly sure. I

(13:58):
don't know if I've see if there's even any d
details that are being offered, But the stories I'm looking
at just notes that the NBA has warned Green. Presumably
it would be you don't get you should not confront
if indeed that was the exchange, and I tend to agree.
Now part of this is it's Draymond. So because it's

(14:19):
Draymond Green, it's hard to give him the benefit of
the doubt because of how often he goes off to
the to the extent that he does, and for that reason,
it's like I said, you just sort of shake your
head and you go, Draymond, Okay, here we go again.
And because Draymond has the you know, these illusions that
he's perfectly capable of handling himself and he's not frustrated

(14:41):
when a lot of the things he's done has been
related to frustrations on the court, things not going his
way on the court, et cetera. After the game, Green
commended the referee, Courtney Kirkland for handling the interaction.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I've heard him over and over again. You handled it well.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Don't get yourself in trouble. No trouble, I'll take care
of it. That's what Draymond claimed that Kirkland told him.
Now again, I don't know what Kirkland said to the fan.
The fans name is Sam Green, a Pelicans fan, and
he's quoted in an Associated Press piece about, you know,
when he went with the with the the chant that
he did, and the sequencing of it as well. But

(15:22):
I don't believe he was thrown out of the game.
I don't think he should have been thrown out of
the game. Would I've done it, probably not. But I
don't think this is you know, we we got to
be careful because I think what's happened is the trend
has been you quote players and.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You say, well, there's only so far.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You know, the players should not have to stand for
certain things, and so the benefit of the doubt has
tended to go towards the player. I get that to
a degree, but I think each case has to be
examined individually, and I don't think that means automatically we
have to assume that the that the fan, you know,
stepped over the line, and in this case, I'm not

(16:03):
sure that that that fan did. The dangerous thing, obviously,
is because of the proximity of the court.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's the way basketball is set up. You're worried.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You have the concern, the obvious concern about it escalating
about well, what if the fan is not as cool
as this guy was and decides to shove Draymond. And
that's I'm sure largely why the NBA says you can't
be going over there, especially when in this case there
doesn't seem to be any indication that there were any
racist talents involved or anything like that. We can talk

(16:35):
about whether it's sexist to name a female athlete. In
this case, it was about what her game represents that
he's playing off of.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
But you know, Draymond has a way despite his history
of making these stories about him trying to stand tall
and him actually being more mature and and and trying to.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, reason through these things.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
We have pretty good experience here knowing that there are
times where reason has nothing to do. As good a
basketball player as Draymond Green is with his approach, you know,
with the way he goes about his business. So uh,
I I'm actually encouraged at the NBA. Now, I don't
know if a fine was necessary, and in this case,
they didn't find the player, and I'd be curious to

(17:25):
know exactly what the warning was. But I'm glad that
the I don't think in this case the player or
the fan has lost his seats or it rises to
that level. Often it does, and then it should be easy.
You're you're done, you're banned from this arena, you're banned
for a year, whatever the case may be. But in
this case, I, you know, I just don't think there's
anything here that is worthy of the danger that's that's

(17:49):
that that the dangerous door that's opened when a player
then decides to get in the face of that individual.
Westbrook's done this a few times too, and it's become
it's too easy to put all of it, I think
on the fan again, depending on exactly what the fan
said this to me. I think the league sent a
good message here where they're not taking it out in

(18:11):
the fan. They're not suggesting that the fan really did anything,
or at least they're saying, no matter what line he
came up to, if you get in his face, we
can't allow it because that is asking for difficulty and
the possibility of escalation, and that's what, obviously you are
trying to avoid, and of all people to seem or

(18:34):
sound wronged it's admittedly I think should be tougher to
stomach it when it comes from Draymond Green. We've laid
out the litany of stories in his case, the degree
to which his head coaches had to hold his nose
because Green's a very good player. But the fact is
his history as in terms of not controlling his emotions,

(18:54):
as I think, kind of speaks for pretty much speaks
for itself. If you have questions for Louis, If if
you have questions for Luigi, perfect time to hit the
bratch on brian canfan text line. That number is six
four six eighty six. Are you trying to I mean,

(19:15):
are you getting into this club? Are you starting to
believe that maybe we have figured some stuff out and
we might well be on our way to a you know,
pretty successful regular season after a very slow start. You
may have questions at the college level, You may have
questions at the high school level. You may have travel questions.
Luigi's very good at that because no one travels the
globe quite like Luigi. So all those on the table

(19:37):
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Speaker 2 (19:44):
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(20:13):
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Speaker 3 (20:14):
As always in Man, the questions and observations are coming
in fast and furious for Luigi, who joins us now
via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You are back from Owahu. Is that correct? Back in Florida?

Speaker 5 (20:30):
That's right? Three days too short?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, that is too short. That's a quick turn back
and forth. But the beauty of it is there will
always be another Hawaii trip for you, so you don't
have to be necessarily all of that disappointed.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
No problems at the airport, Uh, with the infrastructure, everything
worked for you. There were no nightmare stories. As we
get the airlines back at full speed.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, just like the airlines were seeing any flights out
of the country or out of the domestic. Yes, we're
gonna have any problems. The regional stuff that had a
lot of problems. Unfortunately for me it wasn't regional, so.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
We had definitely not That's good.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
All right, let's get this out of the way, because
among the questions that have come in, uh, there's this one.
This one definitely got my attention from the bratch on
Bryant k f A N text line. Louise, what are
Lewis thoughts on JJ McCarthy. Everybody is talking about the

(21:28):
JJ McCarthy story. Luigi what what what would you like
to add to the equation.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well, everybody gets frustrated, you know when you lose, and
I can understand why, and and you see flashes of
really high talent and then you see mistakes and you're
hopeful that the mistakes are just mistakes of youth and
rookies only had five games, and you have to say
that what worries means more than the mistakes is the

(22:00):
field for the game. Yeah, and I see that because
you know the one thing about great quarterbacks, you know
how to when they have to pass the ball, the
football hard or different speed, you know, different speeds, and
I haven't seen him do that. That's the one thing
that I get surprised about, because he can already fire
it and sometimes guys only fifteen yards away from him

(22:22):
and puts it right through his hands. It's the field
that bothers me more than anything else, because he does,
have no doubt, he's got great arm strength and he
can already throw a ball and he can run with
the ball. It's always the field for the game, like
when should I run or not run? When should I
throw a soft pass or not soft pass? And you

(22:44):
want to attribute that to being a rookie, but it's
still when you have a field for the game. Even
as a rookie, sometimes some of those mistakes don't show up.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I know, we were talking much earlier in the show.
Right off the top of the program.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
A good example of exactly what you're talking talking about
was same scenario twenty years twenty five years ago. Now,
second year quarterback who did not play in his first
year after being drafted high by the Vikings, Dante Culpepper.
From the beginning he showed that feel. Now, he wasn't perfect.
He threw some I think sixteen interceptions his first season.

(23:20):
They also threw thirty two touchdowns, ran very well and
had a great feel. We were talking about that with
Chris Carter yesterday, and I think you raise an important
point because feel, you know, one thing is you know
fundamentals and footwork, and those things can be worked on
and improved, but feel is one of those deals.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You either got it or you don't.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
To a certain extent, I think and that why is
why I think you raise a fair point that that's
the bigger thing to watch, the bigger concern, because feel
is more than just mechanics.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
It is, and the great players had that in all sports. Yep,
you can call it fields. Sometimes you know, it's just
a perception that hits the anti patient, but it's just
an awareness in the game of how you should be
playing the game. And there's a lot of things that
go into that field, but those are probably the most

(24:11):
important things because that gives you, that gives you extra
time to do what you want to do. When you
understand the game pretty well, you don't feel as rushed.
The great players never feel rushed as an ordinary player.
And that's part of the field for the game. And
that's what I'm getting to about McCarthy, and that's what
you'd like to see. If you see the feel there,

(24:34):
and you're still going to make mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes,
but you're going to be able to learn from those
mistakes make them less. But you have a better chance
of that coming quickly when you've got a better feel
for the game.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
All right, let's talk about your favorite hockey team, the
Wild Are we starting as as this club starting to.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Figure it out, do you think, well, they're figuring it
out the way they're playing. Unfortunately, they now run into
another rash of injuries and then yeah, it's you know,
it's gott to worry and you start getting four guys
out of the lineup. It's not that the lineup so
deep that they can afford those kind of losses. Fortunately,
Wolfstead's been leading away and then Guss came back with
another good game, and so they're not giving up more

(25:18):
than two goals and that's given a chance to win
all the time. It is difficult to get to three
goals for them, but they haven't able to do that,
and you see going six to one and one. And
the good thing about it, when you start winning like that,
you start feeling you're going to win, and you're you're
you're playing with much more confidence and you're playing much
more freely, and and that's what they're doing. It's going

(25:41):
to be interesting to see when there if it works
out this way, because both Rossi and Hartman being out,
that looks like E'rerope might get a chance to go
on that first line. I know it's going to be
different for them, but I like that. I like the
fact that he's getting a chance to play with two
very clever players because I like Europe. Maybe I like

(26:02):
Europe more than they liked him, because I didn't even
want him to sit out a couple of games. If
they've set him out, I think that he's he's finding
in his way, but he's finding his way quick enough
where he looks like he's always involved on the ice.
He works hard, he works deep. When he's playing center,
he helps so down low, which I like a lot.

(26:23):
And then he's got a couple of goals, and he's
scrappy around the net. He he's not afraid to get
in front of the net and fight for puck. Say,
I like a lot of things about him. I think that,
you know, he's just got to play more, and when
he plays with better players like this, I'm going to
be interested to see if he can produce even more.

(26:45):
Although you know, you got to be happy what he's
done this far.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I got him with thirteen in terms of goals, giving
up thirteen in the last eight games, and to me
that it starts there, because as we talked early in
the season, they were routinely giving up four or five
six goals a game early and you know it's true
of any team, but certainly I think this team that's not,
you know, blessed with four lines of great offensive talent.

(27:10):
The basics you got to take care of, and that
is you got to be a combination of good defensively
in front of the net and with the goaltender as well.
And that's where this thing starts to me, is there
they're just simply not giving up the number of goals
that they were earlier in the season.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's so true, and that's the reason why they're winning.
It was scary early on. You're right. I think they
had about four or five games stretch for the average
about five guys and you're not going to beat anybody
playing like that. And and to say, okay, that's not them,
but a long way down from five to two that

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you have to cut three goals off a game, and
they've been able to do that, which really gives you
a good feeling about the way they're playing right now.
And they they were actually was scary the way they
were playing that in that stretch because even though you
start seeing it's early in the season, you're losing two
points and all of a sudden five games at ten points,

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and you know, teams don't make up ten points that easily,
and so they were putting themselves in a bad position
and they snapped out of it and left, you know,
the six one on one left the games. That's really good.
And now the one thing about it, you know, it's
making them feel better about themselves. They're feeling more confident.
Unfortunately for them, they get a real good Carolina team

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to come in and play against them when they're going
to be maybe foreman out of the lineup because Carolina
is a real well coached team. They're a fast team.
They're not overly physical, that's a good part about it,
but they do check well. Even though they're not physical.
They use their bodies well and they can score goals.
And they got two great players. You know, always a

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terrific player there. Jarvis has been a good scorer. Jordan
Stall has always been a great checker. Their defense is mobile, big,
and they move the puck so right now, whether they
like it or not, I think their weakness is still
in goal. I haven't seen their goaltending really be the
reason why they win games this year. And so I

(29:14):
think that the Wild got a chances to get opportunities
and get in front of the net and fight for
pucks and get some rebounds or screens there.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
N guy texted this much earlier in the show. He writes,
iHeart radio is coming in loud and clear from the
beach in MAUI ask Louis, who should be our number
one goaltender?

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Well, you know we're not that far in the season
where you go number one. The number one guy's got
to be the guy that's playing the best, right Donalds
Wallstead and I think that no matter who's number one,
you don't want to get the number two guy out
for six seventy eight games. You want to get him

(29:59):
in there every fifth game, but i'd see preferably every
third or fourth game, and just to keep them sharp
in case the number one goes flat on you. But
right now, you know, if you're going to go for,
say a three game run, you got to you gotta
bet and Walsteed right now because he's he's been able

(30:21):
to do that. Now if during that three game run
he's not doing it, then you make the change. But
he's the guy you.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Could lean on, uh there to a certain extentment you
perhaps have already answered this question, but I'll throw it
out there anywhere. This is from Steve in uh A
South Saint Paul big fan. Can you talk some sense
into who makes the choice about year off getting more
ice time? They need to give hit that guy more time,
which I know that court.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I I just I'm just surprised that they don't. I
I he's shown enough flashes where you've got to start giving.
Like the horse used to, gotta give them his reins,
let him go, you know, let him run. And uh
I I know when I was doing the four games there,
and I'm not gonna say what I'd talked to, but

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one of the assistants I'm talking and and the guys, well,
you know, he made a mistake here. Everybody makes mistakes.
But just because they're young doesn't mean you keep one
of the lineup. That guy's got a way to grow,
you know, he can grow. And that's why I think
you have to. They're on a fine line now, and
I can understand why they're Before they were really up

(31:34):
against it, when they were losing, they were in a
very good position. And then you're gonna be You're gonna
bet on veterans unless they're really playing really poorly because
you think that they're prone to less mistakes. They know
what you're doing. But I think now, I really believe
right now they feel really confident and that's why they

(31:54):
moved them up to the first line. He's earned his
way there. And that's the best part about it. They're
not giving him anything. This kid's earned his way there.
He's earned a chance to play different positions. And you're
really you got to start getting some younger guys in
the lineup. Why you got a cold here, Yeah, getting
some younger guys, you know, playing time because while now

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they're forwards are older, for the most part, they get
older guys and you've got to start breaking people in
to get some mice time. Who's going to be there
if they're not ready right now when somebody goes down.
So you've got to have somebody I was on the
cusp that not only could play, but could play and produce.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Can you ask me if he's ever been to Oslo, Norway?
And if so, is there a restaurant that is kent
is can't miss that I should go to. I'm going
he writes, this is a texture. Let's see this is
tom He says, he's going in mid January.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah, I've been there and I was on the cruise.
I ate in the restaurant so I don't remember the name,
but it was on the second floor. Was really good,
but most of the meals I had, and that I
took one of those crewis up above the Arctic Circle
and it was it was beautiful. It was a great,
great time in Norway's a beautiful area, especially all those

(33:21):
shorts when you go through them. But one time in
the restaurant up there, it was good enough, but not
good enough that I got to remember because I wasn't
going back anyway.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Question college hockey related.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I took my son writes uh six one two guy
to his first go for hockey game Saturday night. Great game,
he enjoyed it, but I spent much of the time
explaining how cool it used to be when the house
was packed full of Gopher fans.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Saturday was only about half full. So disappointing.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Is it still the big ten or what needs to
happen to bring or what needs to happen to bring
back the old crowds in that building.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's a sub you've explored before.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I thought I thought it was getting better and I
don't know if there was something specific about that night,
but can you speak to that issue which comes up
every once in a while.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, I think that there's a couple of things there.
First of all, the crowds were back. You were back
in full when when the Gophers were making runs to
the frozen four. And and definitely you know I was.
I was in the sixteen playoff group. They were they
were packed, they were full. And then this year they

(34:32):
got off to the slow start. Now you get off
the slow start, and they had the eleven guys three place,
and that takes a real toll on you. On top
of that, the opponent was l l i U at
Long Island University, which I'm going to tell you I
hadn't even heard of until I saw them earlier in
a year playing against Boston College. I mean I saw

(34:52):
the scores. I didn't watch them playing, and I saw
them a couple of weekends play team I like Boston College.
One was Boston College, can re call the other one?
And I'm saying, who is this? I never heard of
him before, so all of a sudden he got the team.
I didn't even realize you were on our schedule. So
I can understand, you know, coming to Minnesota to play Minnesota.

(35:19):
People think like I thought. And in fact, that night
I went up for dinner. I didn't watch the game,
and my wife says, or were they playing? Oh, they're
playing the little sisters of the poor. Well they weren't
little sisters of the poor, because they ended up winning
six too. Yeah, the Gophers beat him the next night
six three. I didn't know anything about their team, and apparently,

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you know, they got themselves a number of good players
because of all the influtive players. Now there are more
players around since they were able to get a lot
of juniors come into the US as well from Canada.
But if the Gophers start winning, starting to we can
start to win, the Cross will be back there.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Louis, what is your opinion the Gophers going back to
an all Minnesota roster, maybe we could get more nil
for the program.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
We're not going back to that, are we, Luigi? I
past that?

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah, you know, I'm no different with the hockey team
than I am with the football team, basketball team, the
volleyball team. Give me the best players. I don't care
where they're from. Take them viewed from Hongkong with you
put them in a lineup. You know, I I want
my teams to win, and whatever it takes to win,
I want to do that. And unfortunately, right now people

(36:38):
don't understand you can't win with all Minnesota players because
you're not going to get all the good Minnesota players.
If you're getting all the good Minnesota players, you could
be very competitive, but you're going to have kids go
to Wisconsin Bark College, Mankato to lose North Dakota, et cetera.
It just is there's no way for you to get

(36:59):
all them Sorda players because kids have different choices. Plus
the some of them that's romantic to go out of state.
Of course, different parts of the country. I can understand that.
I mean, I came from Susame area. I didn't even
know where Minnesota was, you know, so that's not going
to happen. So you got to go and get the
best work you can get.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
The best and win one hundred percent. Well, maybe you
can remind people say yours are mine, that's yours.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
That's buying my wife to finished girlf she's called she's
on the way.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Home, So I reckon, I think that's one of my
ringtones too. That's why I was confused for a moment.
Remind people the whole you know, Minnesota kids, only that
goes back to Mariucci, right, there was a specific reason
at it. There was a time where that was big
to him.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Correct, Well, let me tell you it doesn't go back
to Mariucci. Here's and I can tell you this is
better than everybody, because John told me it flucked when
I came down here, Mary, she says. He says. Louis says,
I played with the Chicago Blackhawks. I was the only
American on the team after Brimsick left. He says, and

(38:10):
I have nothing against Canadians. I love the Canadians. I
played with them. He says. The thing that I want,
he said, we don't play Denver in our league because
Denver gets all that you and those kids are finished junior.
When I was playing with the Govers, I was playing
against guys twenty five years old. And John says, I

(38:31):
just want the American boy, and especially the Minnesota boy,
to have equal opportunity to play against anybody. So I
will take you know, I took you down as an
eighteen year old, because that's what my kids are coming
from Minnesota. Eighteen years old and if the other teams
in the league, like Denver, if they would just take
down eighteen year old Canadians, eighteen nineteen year old Canads,

(38:54):
I'd be all right with it. And that's why, you know,
he says, I've had He had Mike Pearson, he had
Mary Williamson, he had Jerry Melnichuck, he roll from thunder
Bay and uh and the Fort Francis, et cetera. So
he took other Canadians before me too. Actually it started
to become all Minnesota with Wu. Yeah, definitely was big,

(39:18):
and he was big, but I you know, I and
Wu was very good friend of mine, and God rested
solely passed away. But I I I told Doggy, I said,
you know, Douggie, I gotta I got a theory, and
I hope I'm wrong that you don't want Canadians or
anything else here because if you lose, you got an excuse.
And I told him that. I so I can tell

(39:40):
you honestly, and I mean, Doug's a good friend of mine.
But I said, that's to me, that's not a very
good way to operate a hockey team. You got to
play to win, and you play all America, all the
Minnesotans because they said, oh yeah, but he got these
guys from every other place. He said, I want to
see you wins, don't don't use excuses, and and that's
where it started, you know, to go like that.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, he's he definitely made it part of his philosophy.
And you know you mentioned it earlier. I'll turn it
the other way, like the idea of you know, for
some kids it's the romantic notion of playing somewhere out
of state. It comes back this way too, you know,
the idea that there might be some kid in Massachusetts who,
for whatever reason, you know, falls in love with the

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Gopher hockey history, to deprive him of a chance to
be part of it, that's that's a romance deny too.
That's the way I always looked at it, that there
had to be especially you know in the high in
the Gopher men's hockey heyday. I have to believe there
were there were kids from all over the country in
hockey background and said, man, I love that history.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I want to go there. I want to be a
part of that tradition.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know what I'm saying you And you're right, there
were kids for Boston, come here, if you'd ever gone
and recruit them or Michigan. It's just like you know,
white football players go to a certain you know, states
and go playing on their team, and and and then
you know, he didn't win. And afterwards the thing was

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Herbie won with all Minnesotans. But at the same time,
Herbie was talking to me, who can you give me
a good guy? Can you give me a good Canadian?
I took Doug Riisebro down. I recruited him when he
was in he was a junior. Then Herb blew him out.
I was playing in the playoffs for the North Stars.

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We were staying the holiday in and Herbie calls me.
He said, coming over. I got Riiseberg came to town.
You know we're gonna try and sign him. So I
remember talking to Doug Riisebro, who was a junior at
the time. I said, Doug, you know you're a Canadian
like I was a Canadian. It's a great opportunity. And
I said, unless you're drafted high in the first round,
I said, you got to come here, do you You'll

(41:52):
get an education, you could do this, blah blah blah.
When you know, he gets drafted fifth overall by Montreal.
That's why he went went play in the Canadian farm system.
Then the Canadian but Riiseburg would have been played for
the golfers.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
There you go, see, there you have it.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
I mean I tried to get Kenny Dryden and.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I remember that we talked about that when he passed away.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Yeah, I mean that they were to come here.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Sure, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
One more question, good, good variety of questions from the
audience tonight, Dan, Can you ask Louis his advice for
parents with kids in youth hockey? So many super teams
and clubs year round. When to specialize in hockey?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
If ever? Gear ice time very expensive? What's the balance
in all of it?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Great to know good perspective is someone who knows what
it takes to be at a high level.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
What will you We've talked about this before. What what's
your best speech to that that texture?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Well, I'd have to say this. You could favor, you know,
playing hockey and doing some extra training and learning in
the summer, but play others. And I really mean that
because other sports. Really there's a couple of things that
does So we're taking hockey, but this could go for

(43:09):
a football player. Just concentrating football or anything. You've got
to get away from the sport a bit to love
it more, and so you don't get you don't get
frustrated with it, you don't get the sour on it,
you don't get bored with it. And it's great to
play a hockey player playing baseball, you know, hand eyeing baseball,

(43:30):
trying in a baseball you know, to contact in football,
the quickness and jumping in athletic ability basketball. They all
help you become a better athlete. And if you have
the skill to play hockey, it's not going to hurt
you to play other sports and take you're becoming a
better athlete, and you're also getting a variety of stuff

(43:54):
that takes away from any monotony that might sit in
there or frustration when you're in your head against the
wall doing the same thing all the time. I really
feel as extremely important to play other sports. And you know,
years ago you probably you could remember, but many people won't.
There was a television show called Superstars. Yeah sure, and

(44:17):
they used to have players from all sports compete in
different events. In fact, I pad into a story once
today I wish I would have done it, putting athletes
in different situations and competing against the general public. This
the athletes were competing against themselves against other athletes. And
you know, hockey players always were first or second or third,

(44:39):
is that right? Other sports? Yeah, and it because they
played other sports too. The others didn't. But I think
it's really important for the love of the game to
be as strong and as powerful as you want. To
give the kids an opportunity to do other things so
they don't get tired of it or monotonous or frustrated

(45:02):
with it. And plus and make some better athletes. So
don't give up on and just specialize. When the kid's fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
I always tell every gump wars and he never played
gold and he was fourteen till us because he never
made a junior eighteen till he was nineteen. You know,
you you you have time for the kids to develop.

(45:23):
If he's got the skills to play hockey, those skills
will come out. They'll come out. Maybe they'll be a
little later, coming out, you know, at the level you
wanted to be, but not much later. And if he's
got enough, you'll make it.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
A seven sixty three. Guy wants to know how much
was ice time in the sue.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Oh my god, Well it wasn't much because we played
outside most of the times said he never he never
skated inside till he could. He killed was fifteen years
old or someone who just finally able to skate Memorial gardens.
I think we probably had to be about fifty cents ago.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
This guy's got to It's probably a night for sure.
Have a wonderful night, great stuff. As always, this week,
we'll chat with you from where next week?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Do we know yet?

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Well no, yeah, we gotta probably do a different day
coming back from Vancouver and TJ, so we gotta do
either Monday.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Well, we'll figure something out. We'll be in touch with
you next early next week, if not before. Thanks Luigi.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
All right, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Appreciate you. Take care.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
That is lou Nanny, brought to you by Camp's great
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There's pretty much nothing he can't answer and nothing he
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Everybody has an opinion on the Vikings quarterback. That is

(46:45):
the nature of playing for the number one team in
this town. And it's the nature of playing, of course,
at the most important position for the number one team
in town.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Whether they are winning or lose.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
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Speaker 3 (47:31):
Sorry k fan, but you know what, I almost don't
know what to do with myself. We're so accustomed to
being done by six six fifteen. The idea that we

(47:52):
have to go all the way to six thirty is
almost I feel like I need I need some load
management right now. It's crazy. I think the rest of
the week we're off early again too. I'm not sure,
but because the wild play tomorrow night, correct and that's
a home correct?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Is that a regular time start or a later time start?
I guess it will depend on that. It looks like
a later time start. Oh, so then we're not We're
not going to be out early tomorrow either. Well, that's
just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Bradshaw and Brian Kafean text line is open at six
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Speaker 2 (48:33):
We had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Vikings conversation quarterback conversation early because you really at this point,
I don't know that you can necessarily get away from it.
I do want to mention one thing we got into
with Kevin Seaffert, And if you listen, then I appreciate
you listening to entire shows. But people kind of come
and go, and you know, we complain, not me, of course,

(48:57):
but other people complain incessantly about the need for certain
rules to be changed in our favorite league, whatever it is,
you know, NHL, NFL, MLB, you name it. I and
I know this is a source subject because in this
case it worked against the Purple's best chances to win

(49:20):
the game against the Bears. But we've just had another
vivid illustration of a rule change gone good, or a
rule change that has resulted in exactly what the competition
committee hoped it would.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Bring back to the game. I'm old enough to remember.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Long stretches when the kickoff return was an entertaining play,
a real play. There was a viable threat that maybe
you don't get a kickoff return for a touchdown, but
maybe you get it back to the fifty. Position can
be shifted, and it was a real football play that
you didn't want to miss. And then obviously you reached

(50:08):
a point where kickers' legs got so strong that they
took all of that out of the game. Basically, I'm
gonna kick through the end zone, I'm gonna kick beyond.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
The end zone.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I'm gonna kick into the stands. That's how far I
can kick the ball. And we reached a point where
why even are we even bothering to kick off? So
then the league says, well, what can we do to
fix it? I told them a year ago what they
needed to do, and they finally listened, and that was
that you have to that the penalty has to be

(50:41):
great enough for kicking into the end zone the teams
rethink it. And by that, in my view, you had
you had to give the ball minimum to the to
the uh the receiving team's thirty five yard line. The
twenty five wasn't gonna be enough. The thirty wasn't gonna
be enough. But if you get it to the thirty
five and you say, go ahead, kick it as far

(51:02):
as you want, man, we're happy for you that you
got the big leg. But they're starting sixty five yards
from pay dirt and about twenty yards from a field goal.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
And that's what they finally did.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
And look at the impact, the powerful impact it had
on last Sunday's game two days ago at the People's Stadium,
because you know what I know, nursing a what well
you know, a less than field goal lead, in other words,
a field goal. You give up a field goal, you

(51:36):
lose the game. Nursing that I think what was the score?
We're up seventeen sixteen. So given that situation, you're going
to kick the ball out and if they're going to
get the ball at the twenty twenty five yard line,
who cares. You'll take your chances on that. And the
other way you could do it is you could squib it.
But now you can't squib it because it's got a

(51:58):
land in the landing zone or you will be similarly punished.
So the Vikings did still have the choice. They could
have kicked it deep. And I know there's some people
out there that think they should have. I don't agree,
but the rule change made this a tougher call, and
it then made more likely exactly the scenario that got

(52:19):
played out. And again, from the Vikings fan standpoint, it
was a disaster, but it's an exciting play. From the
Bears fan standpoint, incredibly exciting play ball gets back past
midfield or around there, they get a few runs, and
suddenly they're in position for the game winning field goal.
So it's like a textbook example of how a successful

(52:40):
rule change can indeed bring back a once vital part
of the game into the game in a way that
it had just been flat out eliminated. It's just that
I had not existed the last several years. It was
the most meaningless play in football, and for a lot
of people it was I got extra time to go
to the bathroom, I got extra time to grab the nachos,

(53:01):
or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I don't want to look at it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
There's nothing to see here, so why bother h But
that's the that that caused that rule change, caused the
chain of events that ultimately led in this case to
the Vikings losing the game. But it did lead to
an exciting play. Whether you're on the good side of
that or the bad side of it. So often even

(53:26):
best case, you know, intention I best intentions don't work
out in terms of bringing back a long forgotten part
of the game. Because we've had that, We've got that
funny formation now right where it looks like, uh, you
got you got only the kicker at the kicking line,
and you got everybody else further up and they got
to wait a while, and it looks so bizarre. But

(53:48):
it's leading to results more kickoff return some deep some
you know, touchdowns. Most times it's still going to be
you're probably going to be you know, you're if you
if if you decide to run it out, you're gonna
end up between the twenty and the thirty yard line.
But it's a play again, It's a play you have
to pay attention to again. So I think that's a
good thing. I mean, I know you're you're a great

(54:10):
kickoff mine, don't you agree.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I think it's made it more. I mean, they got
what they wanted out of it because they wanted more returns, yes,
and more meaningful plays. Now, obviously, Vikings fans are waking up.
You know this week you're gonna say, why don't you
just kick it out and we'll just take the thirty
five and you know, just we'll play from there and
trust our defense. But it is they got exactly. It's

(54:33):
rare that a rule change gets exactly. There's no other
ramifications and side consequences of it. They got exactly what
they were looking for, and it worked a.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Couple of texts to well, tell you what, let's we
still got one more not done yet six fifteen, right,
so let's take one more break. A lot of texts
have come in to finish up with We'll do that
and we will remind you what we have coming up
on tomorrow's broadcast as well.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
On an end review. What's been a pretty I think
productive show to this point. Don't go away. It's the
bumper to bumper show rap, and it's brought to you
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Speaker 3 (55:22):
We had Chris Carter on yesterday and he was pretty honest,
although I thought very fair in discussing the.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Performance of one J. J. McCarthy, I missed this. I
did you see this? That? Uh well.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Part of the reason I wanted Carter on was he
had responded, your guy.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
What's the what's the name let me double check it
to be sure.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Emmanuelo had film, the former NFL linebacker and media analyst
a film clip on Sunday night that featured that highlighted
the McCarthy go ahead touchdown pass to Addison, and Acho
praised that play, acknowledged he hadn't been as good up

(56:18):
until then, but then said McCarthy got that clutch Gene
Carter than via X pushed back with in classic Chris
Carter form, did you watch the first fifty nine minutes?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And that's part of what got me. We got Chris
Carter back in my head.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I said, we got to have him on and so
we talked about and again I think he was hard
on McCarthy. He was concerned by what he saw, but
he didn't say you give up on him. He did
not say you just you know it's over. There's no
way that we've already seen enough to know that he's
we can put him on ice.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
He's not going to be the guy.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
But I'm seeing that A guy who was a longtime
quarterback coach of McCarthy, I think Holcomb is named, is
responded with kind of a an obscenity referring to Chris
Carter as a bleeping clown.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
So this is.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Getting pretty juicy, I think, he responded, I didn't know
that when we had Carter on yesterday. I certainly would
have gotten Carter's reaction to it. But what this underscores
to me is the level of tension right now in
the organization, in this case outside the organization as well,

(57:43):
because there is such great there are such great expectations,
and there is I guess you could say so far,
so much to be worried about that nerves are fraid,
I think is the best way to put it. So

(58:04):
we'll see where that goes from there. It is it
a little tough for a former player to come back
with that rejoinder well as a snarky guy myself, I
think it's actually a pretty good line, and there is
no way you come out of that game just making
it about how he finished. It has to be about

(58:25):
the entire performance, for sure, and that's part of the
reason we like having Carter on. He's gonna be honest,
even if it is his team. I'll say again, though
Carter with us didn't make it sound like he was
giving up on just said we got there were some
concerning things that he saw that that we're giving him pause.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I'm not sure the right approach. I'm not sure you're
helping your own your own player when you respond that defensively,
because the truth of the matter is there's no arguing
with what had come before.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I mean, it's not even up for debate. It's not
like CC is projecting how he might play. It's how
he played by any objective standard. So what it might
mean is that there's a lot of nervousness and a
lot of defensiveness because they damn well know that this
is not gone. And anybody who's worked with JJ McCarthy

(59:22):
deep down has to know this has not gone close
to how they expected that it was that it was
going to go. This message is to Dan b I'm
almost as old as Dan. I know he grew up
a Bears fan. I'm wondering if JJ reminds him of
Bobby Douglas. They both threw throw one hundred miles per
hour with great inaccuracy. God the Vikings better hope not.

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Bobby Douglas was a big, strapping lad, much more physical than.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
McCarthy, a brut of a runner.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
In fact, Bobby Douglas i believe was the first running
back to ever rush for a thousand yards in a
season if I'm not mistaken, But he did not have
the shaw we say football intellect to play the position
at the professional level. He was wildly inaccurate. I'm not

(01:00:15):
ready to go to the Bobby Douglas comparison yet. I
think it's a little early to do that. That might
be a little bit on the rough side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And the last thing I want to have happen to
me is to have one of JJ's old quarterback coaches
refer to me as a bleeping clown. So I will defer,
and I won't go quite that far, even though there
was great concern, and I've told this story before, the
great irony regarding the Bobby Douglas career as a left
handed quarterback for the Bears in the late sixties into

(01:00:45):
the early seventies.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
His greatest game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I mean, it may have been the one game where
start to finish he looked like a professional, franchisey NFL quarterback.
No one will remembered it even at the time because
during that same game, a receiver for the Detroit Lions,
the opponent, Chuck Hughes, died on the field, collapsed and

(01:01:11):
died on the field. So even at his crowning achievement moment,
who's going to remember when in that same game another
player actually died from not in that case injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I think he had.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I want to say Chuck Hughes was the name of
the receiver. I think he had a heart condition. Ultimately,
I think they found out he had a heart condition.
It was awful. I still I remember it like yesterday,
that whole story. So I'm not ready to go to
the Bobby Douglas card.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Quite yet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
How many times did pjsa the Gophers are a really
good football team today during the coaches show?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Sure he went with it. I know he said they
were a disadvantage when the team is so young and
used that old excuse again, ed and Saint Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I did not hear PJ today. Did you he got
a really good football team again today? Or was he
just projecting because he has done that before.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I caught maybe a couple of minutes the one quote
that stuck out to me was we're Bowl eligible and
that's a big deal. Yeah, so it's just it's yeah,
it's it's again. I you're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
You're not a really good football team. If you get
out scored by one hundred points or more than one
hundred points on the road. In your four road games,
the closest you've played in the road was losing two
touchdowns to to Cal And you've gotten blown out by
Ohio State, Iowa and for all practical purposes, the University
of Oregon as well. So we can end. And again

(01:02:35):
here's the other kicker. I know the object of the
game is to win, but if in the games where
you're playing winless big ten teams you have and you
have to like when you eke out victories, you're not
dominating those teams. Come on, man, I mean, we all
have eyes, and I don't expect, you know, PJ to
say we we stink. I get that that's not what

(01:02:58):
coaches generally are going to do. But it's a bit
on the insulting side to keep going down that road.
And it's not My opinion won't change on the basis
of going to Northwestern and winning, actually Wrigley Field and winning,
and then hosting Wisconsin and winning that game too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
No, that's not going to make me feel because I
know that gets us. I think the eight and then
we're happy for you, but no, it's not going to
change a thing as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Thank you to Kevin Seafert who joined about four or fifteen,
and also Louis at five point thirty. So the plan tomorrow,
as far as I know now, would be Mason Studio
and Pat Kessler and Studio. Wednesday regulars may be working
on a couple of other ideas. Oh I mentioned forgot
to mention. Tom Crean I mentioned earlier is scheduled to

(01:03:44):
join us by phone at about three fifteen for Little
NBA conversation as well. So pretty a pack program tomorrow.
Thank you for your participation today. Viking's Uncensored No, what's
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