All Sizzle, No Steak!

Thor, Scott and Charch present a menu of aging players that are either "cooked or medium well." They also identify some of the toughest draft decisions in every round!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. Now
along with the guys from U leagues dot com. Here's
your host, Paul Judge.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hey everybody, it's another edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. I
am Paul Jarchie and your host my co host today
Scott Fish and Thorneistro.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yay, but yeah, we are back excited now.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We had both of you last week for the big
Live jes Your Island event. Yes, we're back in the
intimate settings of our studio here.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We're down to the point where where we were out.
This weekend is the last of the preseason games. Training
camps are wrapping up. We've got so much stuff to
get to. We're gonna go through every single team and
talk about what we learned from their training camps and
for in a few cases we don't have final answers yet,
but there's always been things to draw on over the
course of this training camp period. We'll talk through those things.

(01:06):
Thorn Scott will help us with vacated targets and touches
it's one of our favorite metrics for finding guys who
could emerge out of some opportunity. Yeah, great word for opportunity.
Toughest decision in every round. We're going to go through
the first ten rounds of drafts and look at what
is the what's the player in that round that really

(01:28):
makes me think about this pick? This is the one
where I'm really undecided. That's the toughest call in each round.
We'll go through those. We'll talk about whether or not
some older players have anything left. It's a segment we
call cooked or medium. Well, and then we'll wrap up
with three tough questions and reveal our sleepers.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think we need to call that segment like charges
cookbook and have like a like a Julia Child's type.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I like a cooked book.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, the cook book. Yes, someone of the training camp said,
the cooked book. Yeah, take credit absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, all right, let's drill it down. Well, let me
mention this before we get too far along. Hey, Guillotine
leanings are great.

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Speaker 3 (02:29):
You can.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You could play in a smaller league if you want.
If you only have like six friends, bring them in.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, get a seventeen league. Highly recommend, highly recommend, super fun,
super highly recommend. Only having six friends.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Up to six reality.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, right, when he makes a new friend, he's got
to kick. That's a guillotine league. Like it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Get man more or less to do that, right, I
like it. I'd start auctioning off spots.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, to be a friend. Yeah to you, Well, how
many friends would you lose in that process? Keep them?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, let's go through all of the Let's go through
all the training camps. Sure, one by one here training
camps winding down. Let's start with the Buffalo Bill Scott.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, so Ray Davis and Ty Johnson are essentially tied
as James Cook's back up right now. But it's based
on what's needed on the field. Davis Moore the backup,
and a little bit all around. Ty Johnson will get
some work because the clear pass catching option when they
need when they need a pass catcher behind James Cook.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
All right, let's go to the Miami Dolphins store.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I got. I got three.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Quick hitters here, starting with Tyreek Hill has a thumb issue.
Does not sound like a big deal. John new Smith
appears to be over Odell Beckham for what will be
their third wide receiver, third pass catcher. But on that note,
debonauchain I had to bring this up. He's been crushing
at this preseason. In the last game. They used him
a good bit in the past game and deployed out wide.

(04:02):
He ran eleven routes in the one preseason game he's
played in. Four of those were either in the slaughter
out wide. That's thirty six percent. If we can get
him around that during the season and he gets some
accompanying targets. If one of these other guys doesn't emerge
as an ancillary target guy, we know that the Dolphins
need a third receiver, So if he starts getting some
targets in the passing game, it's Wheels even higher up

(04:24):
on devonaut chain.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, he's expensive to get, but the upside is tantalized.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Let's go to the New York Jets. Mike Williams is
starting to get practice reps with the team. He tore
his acls September and his availability for week one still murky,
but trending towards positivity here. And if you want the
handcuff to Breese Hall, it looks like it's gonna be
rookie Braylen Allen. They've been throwing to him a lot,
despite the fact they didn't get a lot of receiving
work in Wisconsin. No back everything, no right. So, but

(04:51):
it turns out James White. They think he can catch
James White long time a lot that that was a
long time ago from his Wisconsin days. Let's go to
the New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Got Yeah. So there is still no decision on the
starting quarterback between Drake May and Jacoby Brissette. We're kind
of expecting I think I'm personally kind of expecting me
to take it sooner than later. Brissett just hasn't looked
that great this preseason and in no wide receiver room
apparently kJ Osborne has held off Jelln Polk for that

(05:21):
starter role. That that one of the starters there.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Thor is not a Polk guy with no tam He
did make a really nice acrobatic catch on us on
the sidelines in last week's preseason game, but we'll continue
to watch that one. We're team Baker over here. Yes,
Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
There has been big time buzz on Reshob Bateman and
camp m HM like like always, I mean, this is
another year of it. You do have to mention though,
he's the third option in the offense, so how many
targets will he generate if he can even get through
this season?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
But it is worth mentioning there.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
The other thing I wanted to mention is speaking of buzz,
rashinau Lee is getting in their camp, the rookie from Marshall.
It's promising on two fronts. Number one that he is
even out there because he's coming off a torn bicep
as recently as the senior ball so I wasn't even
sure he was going to be. In fact, I didn't
think he would be. But he's out there and he's impressing.
And this is a guy who last year. Marshall's offense,

(06:18):
the offensive line just went into the toilet. So the
fact again that he got through that injury quick and
he's quitting himself well in camp is definitely notable.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, Rashina a Li, I mean if anything happens to
Derrick Henry, Yeah, lottery tickets, yes, yes, yest year.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I mean Mitchell's going to start the season, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Keep me out right. His timetables like November, right, So
let's give Ra the FFW Darthrow right there, last pick
of your draft. I like it interesting, Cleveland Browns. It's
trending towards Nick Chubb not being ready for the start
of the season, and even if he makes progress now,
I think it's unlikely he gets a lot of carries

(06:58):
in those first games back, so you know, plan accordingly
on this. It's unfortunate, but that's the case. Down to
Foreman could be your week one starting running back if
you think like I do, that they may move Jerome
forward to his natural role, which is more of the
Kareem Hunt in this offense. That would put Foreman in

(07:21):
you as your week one starting running back for the Browns. Possible.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's certainly worth watching.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Deshaun Watson's been in and out of practice due to
his surgically repaired shoulder, and his players looked highly inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
This is kind of the.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Last year this experiment. But Deshaun Watson, right, it's gotta
be I don't know, it doesn't it's been bad and
it doesn't feel like it's getting a lot better. Still
early we'll see, hopefully we're wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Pittsburgh Steelers Jalen Warren expected to miss multiple weeks with
a hamstring injury, but he might be ready early in
the season. Still, those things can linger, though you never know.
Obvious beneficiary if it does linger, Harris, who has kept
ahead of him anyway, And you know how Arthur Smith
loves Cordero Patterson. Not a bad deep threat or a

(08:09):
deep dart throw there as a guy who could take
on the some goal line work Patterson did.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Scott. They just put him on the the NFL eye
list for some non team related injury. But I don't
know what. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Out to herbies or something.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
All right, let's go to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
It appears right now that Chase Brown it would be
the RB one A in the committee to Zach Moss's
one B if it's indicative of anything of the preseason snaps,
and then some of the reports we've gotten out of there,
something to keep an eye on. I'm sure we'll get
back to that later this episode. The one other thing
I want to say about the Bengals, the wide receiver

(08:46):
three competition is heating up. Andre Yoshi Vas, that's my god,
appears to be the front. I like andre Yoshi. VA's
a lot of physical talent on that guy. He's a
burner in a big package.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I think he opens as wide receiver three. Jermaine Burton,
the rookie third rounder, is a little bit behind right now.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think he's still.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Worth taking a shot on late because he could potentially
overtake Yoshi Vas later in the season or if there's
an injury. Of course, he's the next man up there.
But it's looking like Yoshi Boss right now.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I love and Plus his name is yosh yos Yes, sir.
Houston Texans a backup role behind Joe Mixon is a
battle between Damian Pearson Cam Akers more in that situation.
A little later in the show, Nico Collins leads the
Texans with a ninety three percent route participation on plays
with c J. Stroud this preseason. There's a lot of

(09:35):
concern about the Houston receivers cannibalizing each other, but Collins
looks like it may be the safest of the group.
Let's go to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Christian Kirk's still not pacicing with that calf industry in
jurye but they are. But he's expected to be fine
for the season. And Brian Thomas still doing Brian Thomas
like things out there. Yeah, but can I just call
it Brian Thomas like I don't know his own things now?
I don't know every every week it's just take up
on the highlight and I only do my rankings based

(10:02):
on preseason pypes.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
That'll work out great. Indianapolis Colts star.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Jilanie Woods had surgery for turf toe. The Colts tight
ends right now, they're total stay away. I mean, this
could be a three guy committee here to start the
season today. Every year, Yeah, stay totally away from that thing.
The other thing I wanted to say, Anthony Richardson had
an up and down preseason game here on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
I don't care. I literally do not care.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
He had a good first drive, made a couple of
mistakes after that, but as far as his fana, you're
still fully on board, fully on board with Anthony Richards
in Tennessee. In a small sample size, Tony Pollard has
looked better than Taj Spears, but neither separated himself from
the other in training camp. It looks like a potentially
confounding situation.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Will Levis's training camp has generally been described as inconsistent,
but a lot more tools at his disposal now, including
Calvin Ridley and a past friendly Brian Callahan offense here,
should give will Levis a chance to redeem himself from
frankly a pretty bad rookie year.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Outside of that first game, he'd have to be a
lot better.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
He'd have to be a lot better, that's right, and well,
not going to get into the old history on that
first game, but even wheah happened on this show, we
were like, that was some flips.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Stuff, three really big passes.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Exactly, and that weren't even well thrown balls. Let's go
to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Scott Xavier Worthy. He spent last week hanging out behind
opposing defensive coverages and catching balls. He's looked great recently.
Clyde Edwards Hilaire has been dealing with some PTSD issues
from a twenty eighteen self defense incident. It's kept him
out of practice, kept him out of the last game.
Denark Prince and Carson Steel are the backups to him

(11:42):
and may make the roster now. Carson Steele had a
one heck of a run the other night against thirteamers. Granted,
but he was bulldozing everyone like he was fighting for his.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Job, which might come for him. As Tim Riggins from Play,
I love it. So you're saying he's drunk right now?

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, he might be.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah, either that or he's breaking a tackle or both
at the same time. Las Vegas Raiders. Let's talk about
the Raiders backfield. Gardner Minshew is going to begin this
season as this starter. I do not think the leash
will be long, so we'll see how long he makes it.
But he's going to begin the season as KB one
and then at the running back position. Zamir White has
looked good so far in limited action this preseason. Dylan

(12:22):
Lobby our Boy, is also having a really good camp
and I believe he will be the passing down back
from day one as we've been saying for a while, and.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Mere Abdulla might get released because of that. Correct, Yeah,
that's a possibility. Let's go to the Denver Broncos. Not surprisingly,
Bonix's name is the starter. We'll talk a little more
about him later in the show. Rookie runner Audric Estime
has earned consistent praise and could emerge as the goal
line back. You know he's big enough for that job
for ye you you know that's a possibility here, Jalil McLaughlin,

(12:51):
this is one of my favorite players.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I love this kid.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Continues to be a part time starter in the Broncos
rotation of backs. He's been the second back into the
game in the preseason game, is getting a lot of
pass catching work in practice and games. I've talked about
him several times during the offseason shows. I'm just I'm at.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I'm into be. Reporters keep saying he's gonna be a
ton touch a guy game. Yes, but I like him
too and ten touch hard efficient with it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, with ten touches, it's hard to get to fantasy relevancy.
But if five of them are catches.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I may be talking about Julia later.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Oh okay, then.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I've all stop mowing your low. I'm sorry about that.
And if you're feeling daring. Samaj p Ryan I think
is going to be the odd man out of this rotation.
Agreed he could be cut and Dallas needs an upgrade
at running back. Just you know, if you feel like
you know there's some team where that you know, some
hate to.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Break it to you, I'm actually signing with Dallas. You
might be better.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
We're gonna talk more about that too. We have lots
of good stuff coming up in the show. Last team
before we take a break, Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, one week after being on the roster, Bubble com
Ony Videll lives. Yes, let's go. Yeah, really good game.
He's he's mostly over his injury. Uh, injury woes back
in line to make the roster. We're gonna talk about
the Charges to talk about Yeah, we'll talk about the
pass game Later's start there. That's a. Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The people who guess right on that Chargers rushing attack
are gonna get paid.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's gonna fla it is.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's a That's a great way to put it when
you get it right there. Whether it's Gus Edwards, I
don't think it's JK. Dobbins, Kimani Vidal. When you guess right,
you are gonna get paid in that rushing attack for
Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh, we love it.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
When we come back, we're gonna go through the things
we've learned of about the training camps in the NFC,
including the aforementioned Dallas Cowboys, find out if any running
back has emerged here, what do we have left in
the tank. We'll talk more about that when we come back.
Fantasy Football.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's Fantasy Football Weekly.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Paul Church and Scott Fish throw an eistrom with you,
getting you ready. It's this is like key draft time
right here. We're in the heart of it right now.
I got like five drafts going right this minute. Scott,
you were juggling drafts all day today or I think
you've probably got several going right listeners do to so
much stuff to get to and one week from today,

(15:29):
when we're doing next week's Fantasy Football Weekly, we're.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Gonna be breaking down the Thursday night game.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
We're that close to the start of the season.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
So close you can almost smell the tailgate from here.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Hopefully barbecue, not just like the I don't know the
emanations of.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
A tailgate Kansas City. You got to get to that tailgate.
That's they do the best, right, they do it right. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
everybody's got a better tailgate than that. Let's go to
the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
We're breaking down what we've learned in training camp from
every team we've done. The AFC would turn our attention
to the NFC and the East Dallas Cowboys. This is
a thor Nystrom production.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
We just talked about there.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
The running backs a little bit with p Ryme potentially
Rico Daldo has looked good in camp. Ezekiel Elliott, you know,
he looks like what he is. It just you know
he'll be the solid veteran fella, but does not preclude
the acquisition of a potential running back. The other note
I wanted to make here, Jalen Tolbert has been Dak
Prescott's go to guy with Ceedee Lamb of course holding

(16:26):
out with the contract stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah it's a deep dart throw, but maybe last pick
you're drafting case. I think this Ceedee Lamb thing is
gonna go upside down.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I think Seed's gonna get gonna get paid. Yeah, newly
acquired Johan Dotson Philadelphia Eagles, by the way, has a
chance to earn the number three job in Philadelphia once
he gets up to speed. His competition is Johnny Wilson
in Britain, Kobe. That's not much competition, yes, correct, and
they paid a hefty price. I mean, third round pick
for Johan Dotson feels like a lot right now. I

(16:53):
think he's gonna ultimately earn that job. Dallas Goddard status
for the opener in doubt due to an oblique injury
the often You're tight end, missed three games left last
late season. He was a disappointment in last year's offense.
But Kellen Moore's you new offensive coordinator. Maybe they'll get
Dallas Goddard more involved. But right now it feels like

(17:14):
Dallas Godder was somebody you liked to have two years
ago on your team and not so much now. All right,
let's continue ahead. Our next team is the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, just an update on Malik Neighbors and Tyrone Tracy
that both sprain their ankles last week but are doing
fine back at practicing and likely to suit up this weekend.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Washington Commander Store, you mentioned that Johan Dodson trade. Of course,
leaving Washington, does this set up a Brandon a trade.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's a you're talking my language right there, baby.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
It might.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Otherwise, Luke McCaffrey, it wheels up for him if they don't,
especially if they don't get Brandon Aiyuk. I've been trying
to tell you everyone out there, draft Luke McCaffrey. Draft
Luke McCaffrey, All summer draft Luke McCaffrey. Other note here,
Cliff Kingsbury praised Brian Robinson this week. Brian Robinson as
solid camp. He's gonna be the early down guy and
then Eckler will be the passing down back.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I've been joking I want Luke McCaffrey to go in
that I trade over to over to San Francisco to
be with his brother.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Double up on McCaffrey, double McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, McCaffrey's tremendous.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That would be tremendous, wouldn't it. Let's go to the
I think we're on the Detroit Lions. Yeah, that's me.
Hamstring injuries to Sam Laporte and Jamior Gibbs should not
be a factor for Week one, but given the history
of re injury. We all know hamstring's reinjury all the
time and aggravate will We'll keep monitoring that situation. And
Khalif Raymond is locked down the number three receiver spot

(18:38):
and he's mark my words, he's going to be to
take a chance on me.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, Khalif Raymond's gonna pop up three, four, five times
over the course of this season.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
This feels unfair because you can literally make that happen, like,
whether you want to, you can make that come true.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I can make that call. Green Bay Packers Scott.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Aj Dillon has a stinger he's been dealing with. Uh,
they're gonna be careful with it. Marshall Lloyd is out
with his hamstring injury, meaning Josh Jacobs might be in
line for almost every touch early in the season, which
he's completely used to after the last two years in Oakland.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So he remains he remains pretty safe. He's not he
doesn't feel nearly a sexy this year. No, but yes,
Josh Jacobs very safe. But Minnesota Vikings Store.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
What I want to talk about here is I've seen
Justin Jefferson falling in Round one following JJ McCarthy's injury.
Like as as low as like eight. I think that's ridiculous.
I would take Jefferson as early as number two. The
fact that he's falling down in the first round because
of that, I think it's ludicrous.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
He's quarterback proof. He's already shown that in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, Nick Bullins, Josh Dobbs exactly, I mean, you know
you can. You know he can. He can post good
numbers there. Correct, It's probably just fine. Let's mention Jalen
Naylor has pretty much like the number three job. Yes, Minnesota,
great camp, yep, had a great camp, really separated and
every else.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
A physically gifted kid who in college dealt with injuries
a lot. That's the one that he just has to
prove he can stay healthy. But this skill has been
manifesting on the practice field.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
We'll go to the Chicago Bears next. And while Caleb
Williams was not perfect and there were some bad plays, man,
he flashed some signs of possible greatness with his play
and its wheels up on Caleb Williams. He's turned into
my most drafted quarterback across my leagues, going off the
board in roughly round nine of fantasy drafts. I'm in

(20:23):
you know, if you don't, I am I going to take
the first tier of rushing quarterbacks. If I don't, I
want the second tier rushing quarterbacks with Caleb Williams. For
those who sleffed the tight end position, let me note
this Cole Comet, who was already a hazard to your
fantasy team, has now found himself in a preseason rotation
in the with the first team with Gerald Everett. Yeah,
that's not good. And last thing, Romandonsay has flash signs

(20:45):
that he's going to be effective early in his stud Yeah.
I know you love stud I know I love and
I love you because you love Roman Dons, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Scott Yeah. A guy I've been drafting laid a lot
more recently is Bucky Irvine, mostly because I love taking
backup running backs to have a line to belkow usage
if there's you know, something happens, if there's an injury,
you don't want to root for that. But he has
totally claimed the backup role to Rashad White, and he's
one of those guys who can catch, just do it

(21:15):
all if whatever goes down.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, straight ahead runner. He would be we since for
goal line carries. Anything happened to Rashad Webbs. It was
shocking the effective at the goal line. But yeah, Bucky,
you're an interesting guy. New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Taysom Hill being used all over the field as is
his wont and Yahoo came out and said they added
tight end eligibility back for him, so you have that
going for him. Taysom Hill is draftable in formats that
have that tight end designation. And of course I couldn't
get through this without mentioning Rashid Shahed but he is
dealing with his toe or foot or both or whatever

(21:48):
it is. But he is not going to miss significant
time and if he falls past ADP, I think he's
worth a look at worth a look at a discount.
The other thing, Juwan Johnson is back at practice, and
I also have to mention Chris Lave is going to
eat this year.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Draft Chris al Lave.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I know you're banging the drum over and over again,
and I wish he had a better quarterback.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I may have him in our homely charge. If you're
looking to trade.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
For Atlanta Falcons, haven't let anybody who's remotely possible to
be a starter near a preseason field, So We've really
gained very little intel on the plan for the starters here.
The biggest story, though, Tyler Algier. Coaches just continue to
sing his praises and insisting Algier is going to be

(22:30):
a major part of the offense. We're going to talk
more about the Tyler Algier Bijon Robinson dynamic.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
A little later in the show.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
All right, let's go to the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Scott Deanta Johnson injured his foot or inkle this week,
not really disclosed exactly what got hurt, but now he
missed yesterday's practice with an illness, so he's got a
lot of stuff going on, but he should be fine
for the season. Dave Canalis has said he will be
the centerpiece of their offense, which is that's my words.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yea, that is very important and that's a pass first
coach right there. Dante Johnson being underdrafted yep, agreed with
San Francisco forty nine ers.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Gotta talk about the Brandon Ayu groomers and and what
would be the fallout if he does get traded. Ricky
Pearsall is still dealing with his shoulder injury. He's been
hurt on and off all camp Piersall would probably yeah,
all off season, Pearsall would probably need to slow ramp
up if they do deal Iyuk, So maybe at the
start of the season would wouldn't be as much, but
certainly if they keep by, you got Pearsall off the

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fantasy radar early in the season.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
All right to the Rams. Rookie Jordan Whittington has been
a preseason standout. Highly productive preseason games suggest he could
press DeMarcus Robinson in two to two at well for
time now, Thor, I know you're not the biggest fan
of Jordan Whittington, but the usage has been there in
the preseason for whatever that's worth. Now, granted, Stetson Bennett's
usage has also been high, Yeah, but at least catching

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what's thrown to him.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, and he's a manufactured touch guy and you get
this off their coverage in preseason, but you know it's
going to help them potentially win a roster spot here.
But yeah, I don't see much for him in the season.
Lot confine manufacturer touch.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Guy Pokinakuas knee injury should be cleared by week one,
so no real concerns there, and Blake Korm has not
played in the preseason which for the Rams means good things. Yes,
I mean they like you and they do not need
to see you so positive. I guess it's a positive
that we really don't have a lot of new data
points from him. All right, Two teams left, Seattle Seahawks, Scott.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, not much here except Howell. Sam Howell has looked decent.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
But it is are you referring to?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, he's the clear backup there. He's looked decent. He's
putting some tape out there for his next job. It's
Tino's job, though, and Ryan Grub is supposedly tailoring the
offense around Gino. He's really excited about Gino this year.
So maybe it's steal late, maybe a second super flex option.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Maybe it's because I just don't want to be wrong
about all my Sam Howell love at this time last year. Yeah,
I just I don't think we've heard the last of
Sam Howe. I think he got dealt a bad hand
last year with a coaching staff that deserved to be fired.
And I think there's a little something there for Sam
Howell find out. All right, our last team, Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Store Marvin Harrison Junior looks absolutely amazing.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
In camp. He's gonna be. He's already made star. He
will be from week one.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
The other thing I wanted to mention here, Trey Benson
looked much better in preseason Game two than he certainly
did in preseason Game one.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
He looked really good, but he.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Came in so far behind James Connor that I don't
think it's gonna matter for this season.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Trey Benson. It's now he needs to win the RB
two jump.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, well against Amari Dimarcado, correctly, and he should. He should,
he should, he really should. You know that's I'm looking
forward to that. I'm as you remember Thor when we
were doing shows back in March and looking into the draft.
I love Trey Benson. I think there's a lot to
like with that kid. He's got straight ahead power, he's
got some wiggle to him. There's I want him to.

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I want him to be successful here. And if you
ask me who the starter is for the Cardinals next year,
I gets Trey Benson.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
I say it's by the end of the season. Speculate
on Trey Benson. If he is free falling in your league.
It's not gonna be at the start of this season.
But James Connor watched out that kid's coming for you.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I like that attitude. I like that attitude.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
When we come back, we're going to look through the
key vacated targets and touches for teams that give some
opportunity to players who maybe weren't great last year, but
now things are shaping up in a way that they're
going to get the ball in their hands a lot more.
That's coming up next Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy

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Football Weekly. Paul Chargie and Scott Fish and Thor Nystrom
with you. Follow us on x formerly Twitter. I'm at
Paul Charchie and Scott fish is at Scottfish twenty four
and Thor is at thor K you you're wearing a
Jayhawk's shirt right now you'll remember, Yeah, so I did

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my daughter and I did the K you campus tour
and campus is. It's a really nice campus. That's very
very impressed.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Was there a statue of Thor? There was?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
As a matter of fact, yes there was it. There
was a statue of Thor. What it should not surprise
you to learn the campus tour ends inside the basketball arena.
What's the name it?

Speaker 5 (27:22):
I forgot field house what sold me exactly?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, they they end you there and they've got championship
banners and that is that's.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
O kyu right there. I was sold right then? Yeah,
don't where do you want my signature?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Done? Done?

Speaker 6 (27:37):
We didn't choose, but that's okay, Oh no, that's right.
It's stupid reason the transfer portals still open.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Charge.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
We went to that, right We went there on the
day in the summer when it was like ninety five
degrees and my daughter just melted on the pavement and she's.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like, I can't, I can't go.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
It does get muggy there.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
It does a little bit a little programming adjustment. We're
gonna do vacated targets next segont This segment the toughest
decision in every round. We're gonna go through the first
ten rounds and guys, and it's okay if we've got
the same players.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
We haven't coordinated this at all.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
We're looking at the average draft position the twelve players
in each round, and I want you to tell me
who's the player that is the toughest conundrum on whether
or not you should take that player in each round. Yeah, Scott,
We're going to begin with you.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, So when I did mine, I kind of went
towards it in a lens of this is such a
tough decision, I'm just gonna pivot. So these are the
ones I freaking chicken I want to do, but I
end up pivoting because I can't. I can't pull the trigger.
And in the first round, end of the first round,
when Marvin Harrison is sitting there, I want him really bad.

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I know that we've seen so many rookies come up
and be Fantasy stars right away, Chase Lamb, Jefferson, a Monra.
It just feels really really high for me. I know
he's got little target competition, It's an offense that's going
to be behind all the time, lots of passing, but
it's still rookie. Maybe the ramp up is slow, kind
of like justin Jefferson's was and many others. And maybe

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Kyler Murray's inconsistent or gets injured.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
All right, Marvin Harrison the toughest decision every round Round one,
by the way, Yeah, Marvin Harrison, one right, who's your
round one toughest decision?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Thor I would say it's a Monos Saint Brown, who
I'm a little bit lower on and it's like this
scenario Win McCaffrey, Jefferson, Bjeon, Jamar Chase, Ceedee, Lamb Breesaw
and Tyreek Killer off the board. It's like a monast Brown,
AJ Brown, you go, Pooka, you go Jonathan Taylor? Do
you go out the aforementioned Marvin Harrison Junior. That's the
situation where I get in the biggest dilemma.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I've got, Beeshn Robinson is my toughest dilemma in Round one.
The Falcons offense is going to be way way better
with Kirk Cousins and the new offensive cordinator, Zach Robinson.
I'm really optimistic about and the Falcons have by like
every metric you can imagine, the easiest schedule this year.
There are like no stuf on this schedule, including their
their divisional schedule, and obviously Bjon Robinson's great. But how

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much will Tyler Algier eat into Robinson's workload, especially at
the stripe or Last year, Algier had twice as many
carries as Robinson. Granted with the different coaching staff in
the first round, I want somebody who's the focal point
of their team's offense. Okay, and I don't know that
it's Bjon Robinson. That makes him a really tricky decision

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in round one.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Let's go to round two, Scott, who's your toughest decision.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, it's it's Cooper Cup. If it's the Cooper Cup
that we saw the last month of the season, he's
absolutely worth a second round pick. Where he's getting so
much of the red zone. Looks he's not as efficient,
but he's gained so much volume. Five to seven, nine
catches again, whatever, I absolutely love that. But he's clearly

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taken the back seat role the number two in that offense.
Stafford's already dealing with injuries. Yeah, there's I just don't
know that I can do it.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
All right, Thor your toughest decision in round two.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
So in round two, the guy that I want is
a Lava. Have I brought him up?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Already you mentioned Yeah, this is not a tough decision
for you.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
If a Lave is off the board.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Though, my biggest element in round two is when do
I pounce on Malak Neighbors like win is too soon.
I think the league neighbors that he should be closer
in drafts to Marvin Harrison, it's getting closer, but that
I think it should be even closer than it is.
That guy's gonna be a star right away.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I've got Miami running back to von A Chan as
my toughest decision. Thor you articulated the upside already. They
use it more in the passing game, of course, you
get the guy who averaged seven yards per carry, You
get the highlight speed. Also, there's where he moster are
stealing all your close touchdowns, the history of injury that
he's got, and the deepest rotation of backs. It's a

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it's a tough one. If you get it right with
the von A Chan, you win your league. If you
get it wrong, you're you know, you've just wasted a
pick potentially. So this is a I think that's the
toughest call in round two. Let's go round three. Scot
your toughest decision.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, this one's Stephan Diggs for me. He could be
hitting Brandon Cook's third team portion of his career where
he gets a thousand yards and five touchdowns or less.
Or he could be the number one in a very
very potent offense demanding the ball consistently. I can see
either option. I just I like Nico better, I like
Tank a little bit better, but I can see any

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one of those various outcomes, so I just can't pull
the trigger. All right, your toughest call in round three.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
So round three to me, it's the brandon Au paradox,
and it's like, a Am I taking him here? Or
do I go to Derrick Henry or Isaiah Pacheco? Is
like what I always find myself in and about half
the time I'll do one, half the time I'll do
the other.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
There's no consistency.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
But Ayuk is in there or not?

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:49):
No, he's in there? Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I'll be honest. You were here earlier. I took him
in the fourth round and I was in the same
conundrum in the around later.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, yep, Like he's there's question, you know, but I'm
buying a dip on I yeah, I mean this is
he should not be going this fow. I think the
probability he's playing for the forty nine ers and I'm
buying the dip yep. My round three also, Stefan Diggs,
and you already articulated all the reasons why Scott, So
let's go to round number four.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Who's your toughest call? Yeah, so, man, there are actually
so many in this round that are tough calls for me.
I think the one that stands out the most is
Amari Cooper. It's it's not as much about Amari Cooper
as it is everybody else in that round. I really
like and Amari Cooper although he should be a stud

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fourth round receiver getting the majority of the work in
that offense, and it should be an okay offense if
it wasn't for Deshaun Watson, who have zero trust in bed.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I'm kind of with you on that analysis on Cooper.
He's great, by the way, and I love that dude
plays to injury all the time, love that he is
an iron man. Round four, your toughest decision thor.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Before we started recording, charging one of those five drafts
concurrently that he doing right now. We had a discussion
about one of his picks a little bit later than
round four, but Visa v tight ends, and I think
the tight end question for me it begins in round four.
The question that I persistently have there is am I
going to start that tight end run with Laporta or
Kelsey here? Or do I wait around for Dalton Kincaid,

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another guy that I love or do I wait a
couple more rounds for Brock Bauer's a guy that I
think should be getting drafted higher as well.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Do you love anybody who's not any Any player gets
older than about three years in, they're all dead to you.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
They're done. I'm a Leonardo DiCaprio TP.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, it's gonna be yeah, absolutely absolutely all right, I'm
going to in round five? Sorry, Round four. My toughest
call Kansas City Wide receiver Rashi Rice. Tons of moving
parts here, I mean. But first, he's a really good player. Yeah,
and last year in his rookie season, he finished second
in yards after the catch. That's pretty darn good when

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you know number one's Deebo Samuel and then Rashi Rice.
He is a good player. He figures to improve in
his second year, and his usage last year went berserk
after Thanksgiving when he averaged nine targets per game. But
a will he be suspended? B Hollywood Brown see Xavier Worthy.

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Those are big variables that could all eat into the
productivity of Rashi Rice, making him I think my toughest call.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Four twenty two target red zone targets for a rookie.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
YEA, how about that?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Really impressive?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Really impressive? But was it because they you know, you
are other people on roster, the sky Moore.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And they're on the red zone a lot too, so.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
They are in their red zone a lot. Let's go
round five. What's your toughest call?

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah? For me, it is the start of several rounds
of packers wide receivers. I can't make heads or tails
of it. I think I just want one of the
cheapest ones. I love me some Jane Reid, he could
lead the lead the NFL in wide receiver rushing yards.
He could, Yeah, absolutely, But Jordan Love spreads the ball

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round and their top four wide receivers, any one of
them any week can be the top guy or the
number four guy in that offense, and I just can't
bite at that point on Jayden.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
All right, let's go to thor your toughest call in
round five?

Speaker 6 (36:13):
When we're in round five, it becomes a three dimensional
chess game. And my biggest question now he's in round
five is if Anthony Richardson is there in my slot?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Do I take? Is it Anthony richard in time?

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Or I do I want to wait a couple of
rounds four Jayden Daniels, and it usually just depends on
the other guys that are out there, but yeah, Anthony
Richard is.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
The guy that I'm thinking about. Round five.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, for me, I'm going back to the Kansas city
wide receivers. Xavier Worthy is now up to round five,
so you know, if I want him, I got to
do this because last week and he posted those two
big downfield plays. Skyrocketing is adp and Worthy is.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Going to have big plays.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Hopefully he'll unlock a downfield passing attack that Patrick Mahomes
has been missing the past few years. But what happens
in games where you don't connect on the big downfield play?
To Xavier Worthy? Am I looking at two catches for
twenty five yards? I'm nervous about that. Track stars turned
receivers usually fail in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Maybe it's because I'm in so many guillotine leagues that
the downside scares me. But that's the upside in the
downside for Xavier Worthy makes him I think a very
tough call. Agreed, let's go to let's go to round six, Scott.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, so this one I could easily continue with Green
Bay wide receivers with Christian Watson Sydney in this round.
But I've kind of said my piece on that at
least for now. We'll see if there's another one. Uh,
But for me here it's Joe Mixon. He's Joe Mixon
is going to be one of the last potential lead
backs that we'll see. He's likely the goal line back,
very high powered offense if there's anything left in the tank,

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and he is the guy in that offense and at
the stripe. It's very interesting. But is he cooked?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Like?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Is he cooked? Maybe we'll talk about that all right?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Four? Your round five toughest decision? Sorry six run round six?

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Yeah, every round six of every draft, I have the
exact same dilemma, which is just how quickly do I
announce Roman dunes A?

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Do I slow roll it?

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Do I auto picka? That's your toughest that's my toughest one.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Got you you like rub your beard? Who should I take?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Here? So?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I love that you've had fun with this this exercise.
That's fantastic. Round six Houston running back Joe Mixon, Thank you? Familiar?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, I believe I just mentioned him.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yep, that's my guy and We're going to talk more
about cam Akers Damian Pierce later in this show. Let
me mention this because you didn't give some of these metrics.
Let me give you some Joe mix and metrics. Last
year he drooped down to PFFS running back thirty five
and he went all the way down to running back
fifty in elusiveness.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
But he's the lead back in a Houston offense.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
That offense could be a top three scoring offense this year.
This is I think that is a brutal call to
try to make in round six.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
He also last year led the league in runs up
the middle into the line that made you roll your eyes.
Don't league in that hate that category?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Go around seven, Scott your toughest call round seven.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
It's probably Naji Harris at this point here and Enticey
as enticing as an Arthur Smith runner is Jalen Warren
not beating out Nause says that Nase's still got something
he can't. He caught balls at Alabama. He can catch balls,
he doesn't really do it in the NFL. The only
other competition would be Patterson, who we've talked about earlier.

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Naji Harris should get a decent amount of work in
this offense. I just I worry. I worry that he
looks like Naji Harrison. I worry that other players are
going to get more work later down the road.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So your toughest call in round seven.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
I love round seven. Round seven.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
It's like, you know, people ask me, like, what's your
favorite day of the draft. It's not Day one. It's
either Day two or Day three. Round seven of fantasy
drafts this summer.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Interesting.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
It's the same sort of thing. I think there's an
embarrassment of riches here. For me, it's the three dimensional
chest thing of did I take Anthony Richard in two
rounds ago?

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Or do I need it to Jaden Daniels or Kyler
Murray here?

Speaker 6 (40:02):
If I have the quarterback though, Jackson Smith and Jigbaught,
Lad McConkie, Aaron Jones, it's like all three of those
guys I want on my roster. So that's where it
because I think Jackson Bid the Jigbud is going to
jump jump up this year. I think Lad McConkie goes
in is immediately wide receiver one with the Chargers, and
Aaron Jones is running behind the Vikings best offensive line
in the last decade like and Sam Darnauld going to

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check down to him plenty in the past game.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
So yeah, I love this.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
This is a great round. Brian Thomas, Kean Coleman, just
oh man.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I'm not picking any of those guys though as my
toughest call, because maybe in Parks I like a lot
of those guys. Yeah, Aaron Jones, the seventh round can
have came on? Yeah, how about Detroit wide receiver Jamison
Williams for a tricky call, right, His playing time is
going to go way up this year. He's finally fully healthy.
From that acl Josh Reynolds out of the picture. He

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gives you first round equity and a pension for big plays,
But can he be more than a once in a
month home run hitter. Where is he in the pecking
order of balls? Because I'm on Ross Saint Brown and
Sam laport I gotta be fed. You got to throw
a few balls to Jamir Gibbs. Where does Jamison Williams
fit in? The upside? Is bonkers, big plays and a

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third year receiver who could put it all together. Your
downside is the fourth passing option in the Lions offense.
Let's go to round eight. What's your toughest call, Scott.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, I had several down here that I wasn't sure
about which one I like. I think Curtis Samuel is
one that he plays that coveted Bills slot role. Knows
the offense. There is a absolute ton of vacated targets
in a high powered offense. I just worry that Coleman's
gonna take over more of a role than we think

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Shakir's there, Kincaid, I don't know that there's enough meat
on the bone left for Samuel.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
All right, So Curtis Samuel your toughest call, But it
doesn't sound that tough. It sounds like you're just scared. Yeah,
you're just nervous about him. Round eight your toughest call.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Or this is the roun where if I don't have
a tight end yet, we are popping brock Bowers. But
let's say that we do and we're looking around at
other positions. The biggest guy that I go back and
forth on is Courtland Sutton with Bonix. Starting at court
Bonix is just a checkdown artist, like he never in college,
shot back in the pocket, surveyed his options, and then
threw downfield. The Oregon system was just pre delineated. Reads

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Courtland Sutton, You're gonna be the top target there, But
how many targets are you going to get?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
My round eight toughest called Jonathan Brooks the Carolina running.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Back, right, I mean, it's how long do you want
to wait for that part? And when he comes back?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
What if he comes back a little bit earlier than
we think, you get the starting running back and what's
going to be a much improved offense, or maybe it
just takes him a long time to come back. Maybe
the first year off the ACL just doesn't work for
Jonathan Brooks. Yep, let's go to round nine.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Scott uh Man, I had an I had another Green Bay.
I can keep keep picking on Green Bay receivers. I'm
not gonna do that here. I'm gonna go with Pollard
should get a decent workloun work workload for a ninth
round guy. He is sounds like the lead, but I
just like Spears so much better that I just can't.

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I just can't take him here.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
It's he's he's a tough call here, thor your round
nine toughest decision.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
It was gonna be Jonathan Brooks, but it looks like
I gave myself a disc time you really you went
the round before, all right, ta J Spears.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
I get aggressive for here.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
But the one guy here that where it's it's the
biggest dilemma for me, is Chase Brown for all the
reasons that we talked about with Cincinnati's weird backfield.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, and I've got Zack Moss going in the same
round and as a as a tough call for a
lot of the same reasons. Now, if you if you
hit that, if you hit that Cincinnati backfield, right jackpot baby,
I think it's more likely to be Moss just for
the consistency, the veteran stuff.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Or do you think he'll be go line?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
And I think he'll be goal line.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Chase Brown was not a touchdown big touchdown score in Illinois.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Didn't break a ton of tackles either.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, And so that's I lean Zach Moss here. Tough
call though, when we don't know what's.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Going on with Chase Brown. Great job, guys.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
When we come back to Fantasy Football Weekly, we're going
to go through the vacated targets and touches from around
the league. What are the big opportunities that have now
teams find themselves in. Players find themselves in that maybe
they weren't in in the past. Our Number two Fantasy
Football Weekly coming up next, our number two Fantasy Football Weekly.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
It's drafting season.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Baby, you're not excited for fantasy football right now?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
What is wrong with you? Maybe you just don't like
fantasy football? But then why would you listen to the show.
Why would you listen right now? I don't know. I
have no idea.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I mean maybe I did get a compli in Minnesota
State Fair today from one who came eupisode. I don't
play fantasy vootball, but I love listen to you guys
because you make me smarter about football, to which I say,
that's somebody who did not draft Tank Bigsby on my
advice last year.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
That's the voice of thorn eis from Scott Fish. Let's
go through the vacated targets around the NFL. Scott, No,
I believe this is Thor. We start with you.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yep, sure, vacated targets.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
So we're looking at and we say that we're talking
about a team where the players so many players have
left that they're in the offseason. There's a big vacuum
created for targets for new players that weren't getting fed
last year but might get fed this year. Thor talk
to me about the teams with the most vacated targets.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
The number one team in the NFL for most percentage
of targets vacated also number one in receiving yards vacated,
as the Los Angeles Chargers. You have to replace Keenan
Allen one hundred and fifty targets. You have to replace
Austin Eckler's running back targets. You have to replace Gerald
Everett's tight end targets, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, and Mike Williams doesn't even count in this because
he tours ac on September, but that's also a missing
starter from this time last year.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
Indeed, and I think the biggest benefactor here Lad McConkie,
who I love. And also I had to say this,
I'm not actually recording in the studio today with these guys.
I'm recording from Quinton Johnston Island. I'm the only one
who never left. I've been sipping my ties all off season.
I'm not leaving QJ Island. He's wide receiver seventy seven

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if you're in a super deep league.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Maybe take a flyer there.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Quintin Johnson's best game ever, by the way, was when
TCU upset Michigan in the College Football Playoff a year
and a half ago. Yeah, the year before Michigan won
the national title.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
Of course Jim Harbaugh was watching on horrified in that
game as TCU upset them. Is because Quentin Johnson went
ballistic in that game. Still keeping hope for him.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
All right, So who's the second So that's team number one?

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
What number two?

Speaker 6 (46:56):
I'm sorry. One other thing I wanted to mention. We
brought up Camani Vidal earlier in this episode. Here's the
three running backs that are around there outside of him.
You have Gus Edwards only thirty career receptions, JK Dobbins
only twenty seven, Jared Patterson only ten. Kamani Vedah was
the best pass blocking back in this past draft class.
I also think he has more received. He had twenty

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plus catches last four years. He's going to get involved,
I think on the passing downs. The number two team
for targets vacated is the Washington Commanders as of the
last forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Right right, Well, yeah, with John Dotson out.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
They move ahead of the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
We'll talk about in a second, but fifty nine point
five percent of their targets are vacated for the Commanders
twelve hundred and forty receiving yards out the door. Besides
the Dotson trip. Before the Dotson trade, of course Lost Curtis,
Samuel Logan, Thomas biggest benefactors here. It's the rookie class,
Luke McCaffrey the third round pick, and then of course
Ben Sennett the second round tight end. I think you
might see some more twelve personnel offense out there for Washington.

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And when they do go twelve personnel and take off
the third receive, that's when Senate's going to come in
alongside zach Ertz, especially for later in the season.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I love the dart throw on Senate.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
And if the Commanders do not trade for Brandon ayuk Uh,
it's it's it's Luke McCaffrey time.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
And we're trying to we're just trying to speak into
existence the Brandon ayuk to Washington.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
There's no there's no actual substances at all.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
We decided we just all think it would be really
interesting to give Jayden Daniels, a talent like Ayuk for
should be, which would be great. I think I think
the guy you didn't mention, I think Austin Eckler. It's
gonna have a really nice oh yeah, really nice PPR year.
All right, So then that that leaves the Bills as
the third team in vacated targetstore.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Yeah, so they're just behind now Washington. After that deal.
Of course, Stefan Diggs and Gave Davis departed, and then
you signed Curtis Samuel, Marcus Valdez, Scanting, Matt Collins. I
those guys in Samuel has some interest to me. We
talked about him earlier in the episode. I think the
biggest benefactors here are Dalton Kincaid, who I think has
the huge breakout year, and then Khalil shak.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, my guy, you're boy charged.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Yes, so yeah, I think it's wheels up on Kincaid.
But Shakir, recall he finished last season very very strong,
and now you have all these vacated targets and you
have receiving playing time to soak up. I also think
James Cook is going to see an increased targets as well,
which if you go down the stream on this one
upshot of that or one side affected. This could be

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that Ray Davis gets on the field a little bit
more because Cook is getting more touches through the receiving game.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, I think Cook is. I think Cook is going
to get more catches, gonna get more carries, more goal
line opportunities. There's some real opportunity for Cook to really
break out of the you know that RB sort of
two three flex thing he's been in lately.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
For sure, they're gonna need some upside here. Yeah, all right,
do you have any more vacated target teams?

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I do.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Cincinnati comes in fourth with forty three point eight percent
of their targets vacated. Of course, Joe Mixon going to
the Texans, Tyler Boyd out the door.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Biggest benefactors here.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
It is that Jermaine Burton against Andrey Yoshivas thing that
we talked about before. We like Yoshi Vas a little
bit more for this coming season. And then of course,
you know, you look at the tight end situation as well.
I think there's gonna be more targets going there. Eric
All is the deep, deep sleeper that I want. Of course,
they have Gaseiki as well, but Eric All is a
stud pass catcher and I think he's gonna get on
the field for passing downs.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I took him in the last second, last round on
the fish Bowl.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I like that pick. That's that's some deep stuff with
eric All. But by the end of the year, who knows.
I mean, traditionally tight ends starts slowly. I think he
is probably somebody who would not be somebody I'm going
to be starting in October. But maybe for sure, man,
we'll see.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Yeah, and coming off injury, but yeah, he's already back
at camp and we're ready to go.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
All right.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Do you have a fifth team on vacated target?

Speaker 6 (50:36):
I do number five Jacksonville Jaguars forty one point three
percent of their targets vacated. Of course, lost the most
targeted wide receiver in Kelvin Ridley, also cut Zay Jones.
Biggest benefactors here. I think it's going to be Brian
Thomas Junior, who the first round. Kid is a stud
down field. It speaks for itself. He's an absolute assassin
down the field. Can they teach him the other routes
and will those come out as a rookie? But if

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nothing else, you have that home run ball downfield and
then Christian Kirk and gave Davis course there as well.
But I think the big benefactor is Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It's not gonna be Gabe Davis. There's never been a
volume guy. I don't think it's it's gonna be Thomas. Yeah, yeah,
of the I would not be surprised if Thomas is
sitting on one hundred targets.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Could right, there's the opportunities there, I mean, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And I love Christian Kirk and Kirk's still my preferred
choice of the two, just for this year. But Thomas
has got.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Like the body for touchdown and Babe and for sure,
and that all comes down can he get to that
target volume as a rookie. It's gonna come down to
Kenny winning the intermediate range. We know that kid can
win downfield if he shows that he can create separation
in the intermediate range, that's where he jumps up in targets.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Let's go to vacated touches, sure, Scott, Now this is
different than vacated targets, And.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
You did mention a few few running backs in there.
Vacated basically vacant to touch his vacated opportunities carries plus targets. Uh,
you know what, what opportunities can a running back have
in an offense that lost a lot. We'll start with
the Cowboys here, who lost Pollard, who had over three
hundred plus carries plus targets last year. The obvious benefactors

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right now are Ezekiel, Elliott, rico'dono and whoever they pick
up sometime in the season, who we don't know who
that is. But interestingly enough, they lost twenty one inside
the five touches about twenty one touches inside the five.
So if you can take a stab at one of
those two having that role, and I think it might
be Elliott to start on. I think so too, because

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all the history.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Of goal line US said Elliott had in Dallas. I mean,
I just think they're hardwired to think exactly that Zeke
is a goal line runner still.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, and you give him twenty one of those and
he scores eleven of them, They're going to keep going
to him. That make a wish thing he jumps in
or the yeah, the po the pot. They might need
to have that be like a kiddie pool so he
can actually jump in it. Now at his age.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Salvation Army.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, Salvation Army. That's what it is, all right. So
that number one is Dallas, Yes, yeah, A lot of
these lost like three hundred plus. You know, Carrie's plus
targets Pollard there obviously, the Giants lost three hundred plus
with Barkley. That's Singletary and maybe Tracy with some you
know in between the twenties, a little bit of receiving work,
some gadgety work. But Singletary has a real opportunity to

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be a huge volume back kind of for the first time. Yeah,
to and we saw that a couple of games with Houston,
But he has an opportunity to really, for the first
time just take on a full on roll and we'll see.
I don't know who else is gonna take the goal
line rolls there even to start.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah, that's it's Singletary's got to be the guy, right,
But his pet agree at the goal line is not strong.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
No, so I don't I remember correctly. It was forty
percent or something, maybe even less than.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's like a thirty five percent conversion rate something in
that ballpark, which is not not terrific. Then in Singletary's
not a power back exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Now I've got him in a couple of my guillotine
leagues just because of the volume. Right, I just feel
like he's going to touch the ball fifteen plus time
pretty much every game. I wish he was more of
a contributor through the air, but he just isn't.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yep, another team with three hundred plus opportunities vacated the Chargers,
who thor had kind of gone over. But I think
one of the interesting points not brought yet is nineteen
inside the five carries. Where does that go Gus Edwards?
We think that's Gus Edwards.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yes, I do think it's Gus Edwards says.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
He being under drags.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Gus Edwards had the most carries in you know, the
most touchdowns from inside the five last year. Twelve touchdowns
just from inside the five. Dude's a converter on those.
So I think it'll be Gus Edwards there.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, then some of these are very clear what happens
with them. The Eagles lost fifteen carries inside the five,
they lost two hundred and eighty plus touches. That's basically
Barkley this year.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, he'll pick those up.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
That's basically Barkley. You got the Titans with sixteen inside
the five carries and three hundred plus. Henry touched that. Yes,
is it Spears or is it Pollard? Who's going to
take the goal line?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I can't even you know, even though we don't know
for su I can't get myself to draft Tony Pollard anymore.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I can't either. Spears is better? Yeah, exactly, yes, And
I know I know the word word out is Pollard.
But yeah, I think we all are team Spears on
this on this side.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Now, we've got our dart throw sound right here, right,
so there's a dart would a spear sound similar but
like more basy?

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Like, yes, we need a sounder, Robbie.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Can you just take that sound? And like, yeah, right,
can we take that little?

Speaker 1 (55:29):
We make that deeper, Robbie, Yeah, I need you to
get onto a spear sounder that's different from the dart
throw sounder. We'll see how that goes. Hopefully we can
get that done.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Yeah, And I could just wrap up quickly with four
the four last ones, the Raiders lost all of Josh
Jacob's stuff, and Thor already talked about uh Dylan Lobby
coming on for the pass catching role and Samir White.
We talked about the Bengals a ton. They lost twenty
one carries inside the five. You think it's gonna be
Moss two that didn't lose a lot of opportunities, but

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they lost a lot of inside the five opportunities. The
Ravens lost twenty four, that's mostly that's Derek Henry and
the Bills lost sixteen. But I think there's a question
mark there Ken Ray Davis take on that role. Are
they gonna give it to James Cook to start?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, that's that's gonna be a fascinating one to watch
for sure. Lat freaking Latavius Murray with twelve carries from
inside the five last year downs shocking that they had
done that, And you know that was that's sort of
a slap in the face to James Cook, like we
don't trust you here. We're gonna go with Latavius Murray.
Maybe they still don't trust James Cook and they.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Go to Rake.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Could be it's gonna be a Shafts draft that whole
Bill's offense. It's gonna be it's gonna be a Week
one revelations when we see how that thing unfurls. Can't
wait for that when we come back, we will go
through hang on, Oh it's is it time for three
tough questions?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
No, I think it's cook. Are well done? Older players?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Do the guys have anything left? Or are they completely cooked?
Find out when we return Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back

(57:31):
Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Scott Fish and Thor
Nystrom with you, getting you ready for draft time.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I need the other sounder. I need Robbie.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I need a sizzling sounder. I need I need some
some steak on the grill.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
We can work on that charge. So this is a segment. Now.
We started this last week and I want.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
To expand on it.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Are we gonna do it in season?

Speaker 4 (57:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Or not?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I don't think well, but we might be referring to
guys as cooked often in the season. And then I'm
gonna want some that's more. That's eating pro that's not
eating steaks.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
That doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
That doesn't work. I think we're gonna I think we're
gonna need some sizzle in our in our soundbar the
debate here. I'm giving you older players. I want you
to tell me are they cooked? There?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
We go? Well done? My man?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Wow button bar that wow.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
All right, there's our sizzle.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Are these guys completely cooked or are they merely medium
well cooked or medium?

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Well?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
We begin with Ezekiel Elliott twenty nine years old, twenty
four hundred career carries and receptions.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Scott, Yeah, I'm going cooked on this one. Scored twice
on his five carries from inside the five last year,
his one point five yards after contact was one of
the worst rates in the NFL, and of his career,
his explosive run rate has basically dropped to almost nothing.
I think he had eight total explosive plays last year.
I'd love to rewatch the replays on the blocking on

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those that got him that far down field, the third
worst rate for backs over one hundred and fifty carries.
But he may get the goal line work, so he
may have fantasy value. But we want touchdowns. But touchdowns
aren't super predictable. So I'm gonna go with cooked.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
All right, cooked one cooked on Ezekiel Elliott four.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
This guy is Delvin cooked.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
He's done, he is done. You might get some of
those shortyards carries and the goal line carries like we're
talking about, but yeah, this guy has an average over
four yards per carry since twenty twenty one, three and
last four seasons has been four flatter under last year three.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
And a half, He's done as a difference maker.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Dallas, he has cooked. Dallas might not have an NFL
caliber starting runner. When we're talking about samizing Ryan perhaps
showing up and being your best runner, that's a bad sign.
You guys have already hit on a bunch of the metrics.
But I'll note that Zeke fell all the way down
to running back forty seven in PFF grade, his yards
after contact dropped to running back fifty this year. All right,

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Next up, I'm cooked versus medium well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
He's thirty five years old, twelve years in the league,
five thousand, six hundred career passes and almost one thousand
rushing attempts. Russell Wilson cooked or medium well? For this
time we begin with you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Russell Wilson is cooked.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
And Mike Tannebaum stop putting those rumors out about trying
to get him to Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I know, yeah, please know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Russell Wilson might be a backup quarterback this year justin
Justin Field is nipping at his heels.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Russell Wilson is cooked, all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Right, Scott Russell Wilson cooked or medium Well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I've been anti Russell Wilson for several years now, so
I feel like there's a little bit of bias in here.
But he's cooked. He's cooked. Last year, sixty one percent
of his passes where five yards are less downfield. He
doesn't even have the arm he used to have. League
average is about fifty percent. Only fourteen percent deep ball
that's over twenty yards. Takes a ton of sacks now

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third most. Last year, his first year with the Broncos
was rough, but man, it's last year was better. But
I think he's cooked.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I'm going medium well on Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Last year kind of good, despite a completely diseased situation
in Denver in which his team ultimately benched him for
the final two games of the year after blackmailing their
own quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's come on this. I mean it was
a horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
But yet despite all that second half of the season
weeks eight through sixteen before they benched him, he finished
his quarterback seventeen or higher, which is not terrible thirty
two NFL teams. He threw touchdowns in every game. He
scored multiple touchdowns in every game but one second half
of last season. He was not a bad quarterback. And

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here come the Steelers. They're used to Kenny Pickett, one
hop in balls around the field. Russell Wilson just by
virtue of throwing a catchable pass is going to look
good enough to secure that job. I don't think justin
Fields can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Let's go to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Alvin Kamara, Cooked or medium Well, twenty nine years old,
thirteen hundred career carries, five hundred receptions, Cooked or medium Well, Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I feel like I'm just cooking up all these players
right now. I'm putting cooked on here. He was bottom
ten and almost too many categories to count last year.
Most rushing categories explicit plays ten plus fifteen plus yards
per tach, yards per carry, Like everything rushing wise, it's
gone from him. But pass catching it's still there, but
it's all volume. Even his yards after the catch was

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bottom ten among running backs. So he's just catching the
ball out there. So he may have fantasy value, but
because of those catches and that volume of catches outside
of that, there's really not much left there, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
So you're on cooked with Alvin Kamara, all right? Thor
for you Alvin Kamara cooked or merely medium. Well, this is.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
A medium well here for Alvin Kamar, all right, last
year was weird of chorus. Was limited to the thirteen
games because of the late start to this season. But
he did have a bunch of catches last year seventy
five that maybe the efficiency wasn't quite as good as
in recent years.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
But again got the late start to the season.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
And by the way, the situation there, Dennis Allen hates
Kendray Miller.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, he absolutely does, calling him out publicly.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
Yeah, it's like he's his enemy or something. The situation
is great for Kamara, and I think he'll have a
better season.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
This is where I am. He should be fantasy viable,
but I don't think as a player he's that much
good anyway. By the way of his catches, like thirty
five of them came in two games.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
That's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
It's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Scott and I have almost the exact same talking points
here on Alvin Kamara, but I will I flipped to
the medium.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Well, I'm just so negative today, even the tough decision
every round, I'm just I'm going to be super negative today.
You scratched your job this morning. And your I did out.
I'm still pissed about my car.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You're so right about Camara as a rusher, just in
that respect, he was so explosive and so many big
plays earlier in his career. That's all dried up. But
the receptions just keep him viable. Here seventy five receptions
last year, second most across all the league for runners,
and that was despite missing four games. But you have

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played the full season, he would have led the all
running backs and receptions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
By the way, it was twenty five and two games,
not thirty five. Thirty five would be unreal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
That would be two very strong games.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Let's go to cooked or medium well for Austin Eckler
twenty nine years old, just shy of one thousand carries
and four hundred and forty career receptions to Austin Eckler
thor cooked or just medium well.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Austin Eckler's cooked. Austin Eckler's cook. Now, is he gonna
get the receiving down work initially in this season? Yes,
I do, but I don't know about after that. I
don't know how well he's going to quit himself. There
certainly is a full time back that's over. Brian Robinson
gonna be doing the early downstuff. But yeah, I think

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Austin Eckler's cooked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Scott Austin Eckler cooked or me or merely medium.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Well, yeah, I'm still going medium well on this. He
like maybe a few factor in the injuries I feel
like he was dealing with injuries last year. The pult
stuff down. But even after the catch last year ten
point three yards after the catch, the complete in verse
of Kamara, he was still very efficient with his touches,
not so much in the red zone, like one point
six yards per carrying the red zone. But that's not

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what he's gonna be for Washington. He's going to be
the pass catcher. I kind of like him in that
role in Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Austin Eckler is medium well. Light usage early in his
career helps so that at age twenty nine, he doesn't
have all the mileage that some others have had, and
he's not going to be a workhorse, but he's going
to catch a ton of passes, sprinkle in some high
value rushes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Man man Brian Robinson.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Zero threat to catch passes and by the way, terrible
the goal line. Austin Eckler might end up stealing some
goal line work here. Young quarterbacks love to dump off
the ball. Jayden Daniels could use Eckler copiously as a
safety valve. I feel really good about Austin Eckler's being
a PPR helper this year. We will say medium.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Well, okay, all right, let's do a couple more guys.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Mike Evans thirty one years old, seven hundred and sixty
receptions for almost twelve thousand yards in his career. Mike Evans,
is he cooked or is he medium?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Well? Why is he on this list? I don't even
see why he's on this list. He's I guess medium well.
He's coming off a year where he led the league
in touchdowns, even with his QBU who is admittedly out
of shape with the new baby now back in shape.
But he was top ten in first three targets red
zone targets in an offense with no real threats in
the wide receiver room, especially on the outside. His yards

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per reception and ad out we're also both top ten.
It doesn't seem like his metrics have completely dried up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
All right, Mike Evans cooked or medium well, or they're.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Gonna have to wheel him off an NFL fio for
me to be like, he's cooked.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
That guy is ageless, he is timeless.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
I was in I was in the crib when he
made Johnny Mantel Johnny Football, a first round pick back
at Texas A and M. And every single year after
a thousand yard thousand yard, thousand yard not cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
I'm excited, excited to hear where you go, hush.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Oh, he's medium. Well, okay, okay, he's not cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Mike Evans not cooked now, and the Bucks believe in him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
They just give me a new two year deal worth fifty
two million dollars and they know better than we do
what Mike Evans has left in the tank coming up
that great year with Baker Mayfield scoring more Fantasy points
for Mike Evans last year since twenty eighteen. So still
certainly appears to be completely viable here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I worry about the loss of Dave Canalis, who just
works magic. But nevertheless, Mike Evans one more good year
left and our final contestant, can we call him?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Contestants?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Sure and cooked their medium well. Keenan Allen thirty two
years old, nine hundred recepts for ten thousand, five hundred yards.
Keenan Allen cooked or medium wealthor.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
I'm going to say cooked against what he used to
be and what people still perceive him to be. Now,
I don't think he will be the number two option
in that Chicago passing attack. I think he'll be third
behind my boy Rob Dons.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
All right, Scott Keenan Allen cooked or medium well?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Yeah, I know that the reports are coming out that
he weighs two thirty. Now, I don't know that that's true.
He does look bigger. New team will have. Like when
wide receivers change teams this late in their career, it's
never a good thing, almost never a good thing. He
has other players drying coverage. Though he might be the
wood bee for Caleb Williams, we don't know super wide

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range of outcomes. I'm gonna go with well done. He
still had a top ten catch rade depended on when
drives when he was needed great inside the ten. I'm
going well done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
All right, Keenan Allen. I am also going medium, well, medium,
well such. You know, I debated calling it well done
versus cook, but you know what well done steak throw.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
In the garbage.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Come on, what are we doing yes or no, camer
You can't do that. Keenan Allen's on a Hall of
fame trajectory if you can get a couple more good
years in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Not quite there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I'm a bit nervous that Alan's going to be surpassed
by Roma Duonesay in time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
But he feels like such a perfect safety valve.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Will Keenan Allen be in exactly the right spot on
every route?

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah? Will he catch everything you throw to him? Yes?
Last year a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Career high in receptions at one hundred and eight. He's
also at a career high in gains of twenty or
more yards. The game is still there.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
Keenan Allen will be in Canton one day to give
Roma dundas.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Man when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Our final segment, Three Tough Questions are our final Sleepers
of the Week final segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. If

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you haven't tried a Guillotine league yet, we highly encourage
you to do so. You know how this format works.
You've heard me talk about it for years. Leagues of
up to eighteen team owners, no head to head play.
Every week, the low scoring team gets chopped. Their players
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the players from the dead teams. We build superstar rosters.
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Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
You get an auction every single week. We all acknowledge
that preseason drafts, it's better to do the auction than
the regular draft. Guillotine leagues, you have an auction every
single week when another team hits that buck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Yeah, it's the blind bidding. I mean, just and ask
yourself this. So you got a thousand dollars to spend
on the waiver wire all season long? Week one comes
in some we run thousands of leagues. In some of
those thousands of leagues, Christian McCaffrey's getting cut. Even if
he has a good game. The rest of the players
on that roster might have a bad game. Here comes
Christian McCaffrey on the waiver wire in week one. How

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much of your one thousand dollars for the season do
you throw out to try to get Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
I've been way too aggressive initially in my past guillotine leagues,
and I'm not doing well. So I've been reading a
lot of the articles at Fantasy Life about the strategy
for guillotine leagues. When do you disperse all that money
that you're giving for the free agents.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
I'm I'm not sure I've spent a penny before week six. Wow,
I think I got discipline. I really hold off. It
takes discipline. I feel like just the pure percentage of
chance of getting cut week one, week two, week three
is so low, it's very low. I can hold off.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
You have to to do that, and it's God bless
you if you can. If you can hold all thousand
for six weeks, you have to draft. Well, that's the
whole thing which I do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
This is all.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Sometimes injuries is hid not your fault, right, You gotta pivot.
Sometimes you know there's no point in getting chopped with
a thousand dollars thousand dollars, so you have to evaluate yourself,
figure out your risks, and really try to know your roster.
But one of the beauties of the guillotine league is
if you don't draft. Well, you can reverse it by
just going all right, fine, you can. You know, I

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blew it on these two picks, but I'm going to
turn it around by spending some real capital to try
to go get great players, which you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
You can go get Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
If you're running back, you're starting running back, goes down
with injury or you just guessed wrong or whatever. Yep,
all right, let's move on. It's time to play a game.
We call three tough questions.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Tough question number one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Nobody's panicking yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Okay, but what's the exact date when you start dropping
your rankings for the holdout wide receivers Brandon Ayuk, Jamar Chase,
ce D Lamb. We begin with Scott Fish.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
So I had originally put Tuesday, September third.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Okay, that's what I'm looking for in exact day.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Yeah, but I noticed today, even when I had my
little draft button on Brandon Ayuk, I'm sitting there thinking
about it, hesitating right now. Yeah, but I in my
head that was more about the other options there than
you know, DK metcalf versus Brandon Ayuk than it was
Brandon Ayuk. I think it's September third. We like we
saw lev Bell set out, but before that it was

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like Emmitt Smith, you know, we've seen rookies do it.
We've and I and you know, stuff like that, but
it just really doesn't happen. I'm not going to worry
until September third.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Okay, September third, Yeah, put a date on it, that's
what I'm looking for, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Yeah, the Tuesday before, because we've seen we've seen these
before get closed like three four five days before the season,
so three days before.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Sure deadlines spur action.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
I wrote that exact line in here. I just didn't
say it. It's like you read it off my screen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Maybe I did through the series of mirrors that I've
co cocted in our studio here. Yes, Thor, nobody's panicking yet.
But what is the exact date when you start dropping
your rankings for the holdout wide receivers?

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
The date is Sunday, September first, at noon, and then you're.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Order the minute.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
We have a draft going on that day, yes we do.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
We're down the middle in your draft.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
It's the week leading up to week one, right, Like,
we just don't know right now, so you can't overreact.
But these guys can come off the couch and play.
So as long if it's before September three, we're still
in August.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
Once we start getting into September, that's yeah, now we
we're going to move them down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Uh So you took September one, Thore, Yes, Scott, you
took September third. The correct answer is Labor day September Zach.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I thought about that. I thought about that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Three days before the first NFL game, six days before
these guys play games at that point. You know, if
they do sign on September second, they'll play.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
In week one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
But how much is unclear? You know, what's the conditioning, Like,
are these guys ready to you know, run.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Full speed for four quarters?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Probably not, and that's going to hurt them in the
week one, maybe into week two. So for guante leagues
where I'd really like to not have my season end
in week one, yeah, you know, these guys start getting
a lot more dangerous, even potentially earlier than that. But
for standard leagues, the correct answer Labor day, September second.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Okay, tough question number two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Will there be a clear winner of the Bengals running
back job? And if so, who will it be? This
is a tough question, and we start with Thorneistro.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
I don't know who the winner will be, but I
know that we're all the losers. Are the losers this
is about I am totally avoiding. I don't think I
have one chair of either of these guys. I also
don't think there will be a clear winner. I think
Brown enters this season as the one a guy, just
based on the preseason snaps and camp reports.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
But I think this is going to be closer to
a fifty to fifty proposition.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
We talked about it earlier in the episode, the ways
in which Moss will vaulter out Brown's value and vice versa.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Will there be a clear winner of the Bengals running
back job and if so, who will it be? Thor says, no,
there won't be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
What do you say, will there be a clear winner?
Clear as mud like? There's no. There's not going to
be a clear winner, at least I don't think so.
We did see Zach Moss have kind of a bellcow
role for a few weeks there last year in Indy,
but Chase Chase Brown's going to be hard to keep
off the field. He looks more dynamic. Thori even thinks
he'll be the one. A Mike Clay, who's always been

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awesome with projections, has them at a near even split.
I can see them wanting to keep both of them healthy.
Now with Chris Evans out for the year, I think
the split. I think it's this no clear winner.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
For the Bengals and Zach Taylor. He has always had
a primary runner who has dominated the carries, yes, always.
I think he's going to go back to what he
wants to do. He wants to have a main back
and he'll sprinkle in some of the secondary back like
he did Chase Brown last year. So if Zach Taylor's

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going to go back to what he knows and what
he wants to do, which of the two will it beaks.
That's how we framed up this very tough question. Right,
Zack Moss, in those five starts that he had last year, dude,
look good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
He had.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
He had an he had a one hundred and seven
yard total game. He had one hundred and fifty yard game,
he had a seventy yard game, he had a one
hundred and ninety five yard game. In his starts, Zack
Moss can be and longtime listeners know, I've been on
the Zack Moss thing from the day he got drafted

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by Buffalo and it killed me that they never used him.
So you will not be surprised to know that. I
think even though Chase Brown is a very different back
and he's a more dynamic runner than Moss, but you
know what Moss does. He can be a workhorse guy
and he's proven it in that sample size that we
got last year. Moss has more pedigree as a touchdown score.

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Zach Moss is gonna win. Is gonna be the workhorse
back and an offense that where the coach wants a
workhorse back, and it's going to be some fantasy gold.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Okay, we'll find out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Tough question number three, bow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Knicks has been named the Broncos starter. How many times
will nis be a take a chance on me quarterback
in future episodes of Fantasy Football Weekly? Of course, to
take a chance on Me segment For those of you
that might be new, maybe you don't know this Fantasy
Football Weekly, We've got take a chance on Me every
week where we highlight a player that you would not

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normally start, but you could this week for whatever reason.
And we always try to choose non obvious players. So
bo Nicks, how many times will bo Nicks be a
take a chance at me quarterback? In this year's Fantasy
Football Weekly Episodes, Scott, we start with.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
You, okay, So most sites Lee list Denvers having one
of the tougher pass schedules. My eyeball eyeball count just
based on pass defenses from last year, and obviously things change,
and even in season, things are going to change. With
respect to that, I count like about five good matchups,
three bad, and nine middle of the road defenses nine times.

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Nine times you say yeah, yeah, no threat to be
taken out of games or losing his job. In my opinion,
we had a guy at the fair this morning talk
about come up and say he Sean Payton's going to
make Bonnicks happen or die trying or something to that effect.
So I think he's going to be in there the
whole time. There are three qbs we pick weekly for

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a total of fifty four qbs over the course of
the season. Thor is doing a ton of shows, so
that'll never be a pick. I'm gonna go with three
three times that three times me. You are Matt will
will take him this season?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
All right, Thornystrom.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
Yeah, the Vegas sportsbooks set the line at zero point
five for how many times I would bring up Bonex
and take a chance. I mean bet the mortgage that
he is going under that number, bet the house.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Overall, I think they would be two and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Would be would be the line that with the other
gentleman on the panel. But yeah, you will not hear
that name from me that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
So how many times, Scott, you're the other apparently you're
the other gentleman on the panel.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Maybe, so how many times? How many times do you
think we will do it?

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
I'll say two?

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Two times? Okay, I guess you can't. It won't be you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
It'll be zero from Thor It's zero for me as well,
but not just me. Hold on, that's not the group.
So let me do here's my here's my issues. By
the way, congratulations of back Nicks on beating out Jared
Stideman Zach Wilson. Super impressive, very impressive competition there. You know,
loved his college well, okay, he was productive at Oregon.

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I didn't like his style of play and I don't
think it translates to the NFL. I don't like first read,
quick hitting quarterbacks, which he is. And if you want
to see bon Nix get flummox when he has to
try to make a second or third read, the wheels
just come off this kid.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
It did in college.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Now I need to see what happens when NFL defenses
take away bon Nicks's first read, which they will do.
I need to see Nicks completing downfield strikes because those
are we want down We want downfield passing. That's fantasy points.
Bonis didn't give us that. It's very early for this preseason,
but watching bon Nicks in the preseason, I'm seeing the

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same can i Son college. I don't like what I've seen.
There's thirty two NFL quarterbacks. Bonix might be the worst
of the thirty two. I'm not giving him one. But
somebody else here might do it sometime, might be desperate enough.
Because here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna go into some
bye week where like five four teams are on by,
six teams are on by. I'm gonna call out my

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take a chance on me first, and then Thor is
going to go second, and then some other RANDO host
is going to end up in some desperate spot and
they're going to try bon Nicks one time and learn
their lesson.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yep, When do you ever go first and take a
chance on me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Well, I don't on air, but I do off air
when we're choosing taste.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Ye see. That was my theory behind the three is
thor never and then each of us maybe one each.
But maybe that's even wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
In the last segment of every preseason show, we reveal
our sleepers of the week, Thor Let's start with you.
Who you got.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Let's stay with the Denver Bronco as I already tipped
this one off. Julia mclofflin, that's my guy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
I love now.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Javonte Williams having a good preseason and is the presumed
early down back. But Fish mentioned earlier on the amount
of touches that they were forwarding that they're going to
get Julia mclafflin anyway, and of course they are. He
is going to be the receiving down back. Charge you
mentioned earlier that samaj p Ryan is on the roster
bubble that's being reported. Odrick estimate is not a receiving back.
Odrick estimate is to break the tackles at the line,

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and he's the Leroy Horde of if you need five yards,
to get you three yards. If you need one yard,
I'll get you three yards. That's Odrick estime. He's not
the receiving down guy. Julia McLoughlin's the only receiving back
that they have on the roster. And of course they
have an epic chuckdown artist right now as their starting quarterback,
and Bowneck's going forward. All he does is throw screens
in shrackdowns. Julia McLoughlin is going to catch a ton

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of balls this year.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I like that kid. I just hope he gets the
ball in his hands enough times to be Fantasy viable flex.
Just all I need is Jealia McLaughlin flex guy, and
I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
All right, Scott, let's go to you. You're sleeper of
this week.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Yeah, I'm going with Michael Wilson the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
I like this one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I think that with the amount of coverage that is
going to be drawn to Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride,
he's going to be open fourteen plus yard eight out
last year top fifteen yards per target. So when he
got a target, he was getting chunks nine point seven yards,
so like one target, he's getting ten yards. They throw

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the ball five hundred and fifty to six hundred times.
It's an offense that is going to be behind, a
team that's going to be behind all the time. I've
mentioned this on other shows. Their defense is terrible, they're
going to be behind. They're going to have to throw. And
if they have a full healthy year out of Kyler Murray,
who's a much more a higher completion percentage, much better
passer than you know, the other ones that have Clayton

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Tunes and the Josh Dobbs that have gotten playing time.
Those yards in chunks, that third option, single coverage. I
like Michael Wilson and.

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
With Marvin Harrison, they're moving to the top of the
packing order. Now Michael Wilson can become what he is
destined to be. He's a big receiver who, by the way,
at the Senior Ball his year where he was there,
he was the only player regardless of position, to be
in top five both in max deceleration and max acceleration.
That guy gets open by stopping on a diamond, screaming
back for a guy who's in a bigger frame he's

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a possession receiver in the NFL, and now he has
found his destiny.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
I love that. Take Fish.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
This is something I did not at all think i'd
be talking about right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
We have. We've already said Sleepers, we do it at
the end of the show. Everyone, well, no, nothing, this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
We've talked a lot about Joe Mixon and how we
don't trust Joe Mixon and we think he's cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
So if he's let's say he's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Bad, and they need to get go down the depth
chart and they need to start finding other runners.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Oh, British Brooks, British bris We're not going quite that far.
We're not going quite that far. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Now, I've been team Damien Pierce in the past, but
I've also seen enough troubling things. And it really appears
the backup right now, based on preseason play and who's
been getting time and when Cam freaking acres off, the
double Achilles, I mean single Achilles is a career ruiner
for ninety eight percent of running backs, Cam Akers has

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looked shockingly spry.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
I can't. That's how it works. The one Achilles bad,
but the other Achilles brings it right right back in and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Brings the equilibrium to the Achilles. Look, this is really
about Joe Mixon in this great offense. Maybe Joe Mixon
can be bad and still be productive just getting what
the offense gives him, which will be considerable. But if
at some point they want something somebody more dynamic, they're
gonna have to go another way. And I don't know

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if I can stick my neck out for Damian Pierce anymore.
And maybe I don't have to, because it really looks
like cam Akers is going to win the number two job. Amazing.
I didn't think i'd be saying it. All right, guys,
let's take a look at another couple of things. Here,
where's the tight end drop off this class of tight ends?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Do you want me to read the tight end? ADP?
And you guys can shout out where do you think
it is?

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
I like that angle?

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Do that all right? Sam Laporta, Travis Kelce, Trey McBride,
Mark Andrews, Dalton Kincaid, Kyle Pitts, George Kittle. We're still
going here deep here, Ingram, Jake Ferguson Stop.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Okay, that's for me. I've just hit my comfort zone
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
And here's where we get to Thor's Rock Bauer.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Now I'll make first I want to mention this about
Jake Ferguson. Despite last year being effectively his rookie year,
it was his sophomore year, but the first year he
got real time on the field. Jake Ferguson was the
second most targeted player in the NFL inside the five
yard line. In these high leverage passes that Dallas needed
to make inside the five yard line when they needed touchdowns,

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they threw to Jake Ferguson ten times during the season.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
That is a ton.

Speaker 6 (01:27:41):
That kid was playing right as a true freshman in
the Big ten. And you know he's not the freak
athlete of Kyle Pets or one of those guys, but
reliable he can do. You know, he's a multi multifaceted
tight end. Not a surprise that Wheels went up on him. Yeah,
so that's that is my guy. You've already talked to
Brock Bauers a little bit, so, but after that, you know,
if we go farther down the list were yeah, yep,

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so hit some of the next guys up that that
worry us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Uh, it's me and Djoku Goddard.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Firemouth Schultz then we're to Hawkinson and then we're way
down there. We are, like it really jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Hockinson will payoff dividends eventually, obviously, when you're gonna have to,
you know, that might be October. I you know, I'm
no reason to rush him either, No, no reason, honest.
I mean, we're just gonna be honest about the prospects
for the Vikings this season. It's it looks like there's
no reason to rush him back this year. Correct, you know,
we'll see it. Yeah, I know NFL teams don't think
like that, but just playing it out probably goes that way.

(01:28:39):
Got a great job today, Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, Robbie.
Thanks for all of your help today. I appreciate it.
As always, Fantasy Football Weekly mentioned this earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
This time.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Next week, we're breaking down the Thursday night game. Let's go.
I know it's already so close.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
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