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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and
whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,
here's your host, Paul Charge.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. Our slog through each of
the off season divisions continues shows.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what the show that you and Fish had
last week, it was it was super fun. I enjoyed
listening to your greasy belly flop.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Creamy belly flop, and it was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You guys did a great job. Thank And if you're
not listening to that show, I encourage you to go
yeah about that podcast episode, to go back to that
good stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was. Uh, nobody ever breaks down belly flops anymore,
so we're here for.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That fantasy belly flops. Yeah, absolutely exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So the premise as we as we go through this
month long tour of all not a slog, it's now
a tour. I've upgraded from slog to tour. Uh, look
at every NFL team, highlight the key differences from last year.
Do we think these offenses are better? Do we think
they're worse, you know, just get up to speed on
all these different teams. Sure, we now turn our attention
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to the AFC West and the NFC West, Matt, and
this is your first crack at it. We'll start with
Kansas City. They get to go first.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You do want to start with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
When you win the Super Bowl, you get to go
first on Fantasy Football Week.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah. Well, for additions and subtractions, Marquise Brown signed a
one year deal there. The speedy Xavier Worthy was the
Chief's first round pick. He should slot in a lot
of wide receiver packages immediately. Uh, they did add Carson
Wentz very quietly as the backup there.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I like that move.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I kind of like that move as well. Irv Smith
now backing up Travis Kelcey. And addition by subtraction, maybe
Marquez Veldez Scandling he's gone, Mikole Hardman, he's gone. A
possible subtraction of Rashie Rice, who keeps getting an off
season trouble. But we'll have to pay attention to that
as we get closer to the season. Starting in the
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passing game, you still got Mahomes, Kelsey and Rice as
your core. That just won you the Super Bowl. I'm
feeling pretty good as a starting point right there. And
you've added a steady veteran in Hollywood Brown, who gets
some streaks of eye popping numbers in the past. He's
been pretty good along the lines.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And obviously with the best passer he's ever worked with. Absolutely,
and if Xavier Worthy's not able to contribute early, you
know Marquise Brown is going to be an intriguing guy
to pick your spots to play.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, especially if Rashie Rice is facing any kind of
suspension or disciplinary action from the league. But I do
think if Xavier Worthy flashes in camp in the preseason,
I think they involve him right away. I think I
think it'll be quicker than you think. The Chiefs did
have eight different wide receivers average at least one target
per game.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
How do you do that? It's impossible. Justin Watson and
Sky Moore are currently the depth pieces on the roster.
Kadarius Tony still under contract as well, but he hasn't
played a snap since Week fifteen of last year. Tony
likely only makes the roster if there's an injury or
a right I think he gets cut for better or
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worse on the on the passing game, I think Brown
and Worthy are additions that have to make their passing
game look a little bit better than last year.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Especially from a big play standpoint.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know we've seen we think of classic Mahomes and
Tyreek Hill Was there are just these long, deep bombs
that would connect in the big plays. Just year after
year that is slowly decreased, Shorter passes, fewer big plays.
Now with Brown and Worthy, you feel like the Chiefs
and Mahomes are ready to strike downfield again.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I think I think that that's a fair assumption
on the running side of the game. Maybe I'm wrong,
but Isaiah Pacheco looks primed to be an absolute bel
cow this year. In games where Pacheco touched the ball
fewer than fifteen times, the Chiefs had a record of
one in three. In games that the Chiefs won, Pacheco
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averaged twenty point three touches. Wow. He played eighteen games
last year, including the playoffs. He scored a touchdown in
eleven of them. Now, he's not gonna put up like
Christian McCaffrey numbers or anything like that. But in this
running back landscape, which it's harder to find guys who
get huge shares of touches. I think Isaiah Pacheco sitting
on a pretty good opportunity here. There were only fourteen
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running backs who had averaged seventeen touches per game last season,
and he was one of them. Devon a Chain, for instance,
he averaged eleven point eight touches per game. He's going
a full two rounds ahead of Pacheco's ADP of forty
or the mid fourth round. Yea. The backups are Clyde
Edwards E Laire and Keyante ingram Over for Arizona non factor,
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non factors at all. I'm clearing of them at all.
So better or worse is you can probably tell. I'm
pretty bullish on Isaiah Pacheco, you know, maybe popping off
and being a top five back at the end of
the year that you can get in the fourth round.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, if, if, if he's my first running back taken, he's.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I never I've never taken running backs in the first
three rounds, but he's.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
A perfect fourth round guy to start your running back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Absolutely, yea, I love it. Do you think the running
game gets better this year?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think it does. I think I think with all
the opportunities that the passing game has, I think Pacheco
is sitting on a good year. Here, let's go to
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Raiders brought back interim head coach Antonio Peers in the offseason,
and then he inexplicably hired former Bears offensive coordinator Luke
Getzi why, I don't know whatever, overhauled their offensive line
in Las Vegas, in including putting second and third round
picks into their offensive line, which should help what it
was last year basically a middle of the pack to
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slightly below average unit passing game. Here is the big
story is the addition of rookie tight end Brock Bauers.
Matt unexpectedly slid to pick thirteen in the NFL Draft,
and I think at that point the Raiders like, we
just got to take the best guy off the board,
even though they had taken the first tight end off
the board the previous year as well. You know, I
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think in a different year, when six quarterbacks weren't drafted
in the top twelve picks, Bowers would have been like
a top five guy besides on talent, besides all the
way to number number thirteen. He brings the most college
production and fantasy optimism as a rookie since TJ. Hockinson,
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Vernon Davis, Jeremy Shockey, from Old Guys, Kyle Pitts, Yep,
Yep Raiders took. I mentioned Michael Mayer was the draft
pick last year.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
His dynasty value.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just got destroyed. Did Yeah, that's it's he is officially
dead at this point.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That unfortunately, it is.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's It was a quick it was a quick life,
the life and times of Michael Mayer. It's over unless
Aiden O'Connell gets a lot better. Gardner, Minshew's going to
take over a quarterback, Matt.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think it's Minshew's job. I think that they signed
him to a pretty decent contract. Yeah, to say that
h's his job.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
He was non awful last year, is in he's starting quarterback?
I think we'd say, said Gardner, Minshew is just non awful.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's just what he is.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's right. He had a handful of good games, And
so I was looking back at Minshew's stats as somebody
most was didn't start most weeks. He'd have these spike games, Matt,
where if you did start him, you got paid. But
here was the catch. They were totally unguessable. It came
against a great Cleveland secondary, a great New Orleans secondary, Pittsburgh,
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you know, these great defense You never would have started
Gardner Minshew in those games, and that was what he
went up.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know, you know what Gardner Minshew is going to become.
He's going to be come Stu Beard. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Maybe, so he's going to be like that, Like that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Pass around to eighteen different teams, start for all of them,
put up a couple of crazy six touchdown games when
you're like, what, I should have had him in my lineup? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Maybe maybe Minshew caps the upside for all the Raiders receivers.
His top receiver last year was Michael Pittman. He only
scored four times. Minshew finished twenty seventh in a dot.
I don't love that. The deep deep ball completion percentage
was just thirty nine percent. That was that nestled him
between Josh Dobbs and Will Levis in deep ball pass
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That's not good. That's not good. Thirty third in completion
percentage at all depths. So it's just it's you know,
this offense is just capped by the quarterback position. Unfortunately,
Devanta Adams managed an okase season despite the quarterbacking of
Adian O'Connell and Jimmy Garoppolo and Brian Hoyer. You remember
those starts? Ah, Yes, Yeah, Adams finished his wide receiver
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four teen. He was fifth in targets, which proves that
just volume alone can't propel DeVante Adams to greatness. I mean,
he needs better quarterbacking. He's not gonna have it here.
Devanta Adams ADP very high. I think he's wide receiver nine.
He finished his fourteen last year. He's on the second
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half of his career.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Arc.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't that feels a little bit high. You can
get Jacoby Myers with what a nice season? Yeah, wide
receiver fifty four.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I don't think that you're getting much of a
drop off there.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
No, the drop offs not that severe.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, so, but that's only if you really want to
have a Raiders wide receiver on your team.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, and if I do, I'm paying. If I'm paying
for one at their ADP Jacoby Myers pick one hundred
and twenty two, not DeVante Adams pick fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm kind of shocked that DeVante Adams has not demanded
a trade.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, I am too, to be honest, I mean, this
isn't what he signed up for. No, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So, yeah, you're probably right, and maybe that ends up
happening that maybe maybe let's move over to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean Russell Wilson is gone. That's the biggest
change there.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wait, hold on, I forgot the whole running game for
the Raiders. Oh gosh, give me a second.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, Russell Wilson ran against the Raiders. Thank you. Nice try.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, massive change here as Josh Jacobs was allowed to
leave in free agency. Zamir Whites your presumed starter, Matt,
and you'll remember he got some reps as the starter
in the last month of the season last year, and
he got some long looks. He had a seventeen attempt game,
a twenty two attempt game, a twenty attempt game, a
twenty five attempt game.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And we love volume.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You alluded to this with Checko hard to find volume backs,
but Antonio Pierce like seems to like his workhorse backs.
I thought White looked pretty good some explosive runs. In
Zamir White's four starts, he had seven runs of more
than ten yards. His backup is now Alexander Madison. He
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had explosive run rates of double that.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Of Alexander Madison, which is in sane a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
White only scored one touchdown in those four starts, but
Alexander Madison's no threat to steal touchdowns. Dude never scores.
So White's ADP is really interesting. It's our running back
twenty three seventy seventh overall, despite being a high volume
workhorseback with no competition for goal line work.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think he's a due the opposite magnet in the
seventh round.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah. Maybe the offensive line gets better as well. With
the improvements that they made, they reshuffling this offensive line,
I think this running back running game for Las Vegas
gets a little bit better, all right. Now, the aforementioned
Russell Wilson in Denver.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
He's gone.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He's gone.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Jerry Judy gone as well, was traded to Cleveland, and
starting center Lloyd cushion Berry, the third signed to the
biggest center contract in the history of the league with Tennessee.
So he's gone as well.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Lloyd cushion Berry Thugh, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's a pretty good name. The coaching staff under Sean
Payton and coordinators stayed exactly the same. The biggest addition
is new quarterback Bo Nix, who the Broncos took with
the twelve pick. They also added wide receiver Troy Franklin
in the fourth and audrich Estime in the fifth. Passing game.
It all flows through bow Knix, who is the presumed
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opening day starter. Nicks known for his highly accurate short
passing game. He completed seventy four point nine percent of
his passes at Oregon over the last two years.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Which in itself is impressive, but you know, his a
dot was like five yards.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He also had seventy four touchdown passes to only ten
interceptions in that spans, so the numbers were good. Obviously,
it's a step up and level of play. And he's
not known for the long ball, but when Peyton was
coaching in Drew Brees or Drew Brees in New Orleans,
Breese wasn't really known as a bomber either. And if
you remember correctly, Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram caught a
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ton of balls out of the backfield. Yeah, and I
mentioned this in the First Round Aftermath podcast that we
did a couple of weeks ago. The last year the
Broncos running backs were targeted one hundred and fifty times,
and they led the league with one hundred and thirty
one receptions.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Uh. Some may be excited about Courtland Sutton's role maybe
increasing with the loss of Jerry Judy, but his a
dot last year was a very deep fourteen point four deep,
and of wide receivers who had at least eighty targets
last year, only four players had a longer a dot
than Sutton. That was Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Brandon Ayuk
and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, that, well, that's what I want.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want receivers who get thrown too deep and can
catch it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, but ken Bow nicks through.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, Okay, that's a fair question. That's that's that That's
a fair question.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
That's the question. Yeah. So with that said, I don't
think the quality of targets goes up for Sutton, and
I think you're completely reliant on him duplicating his ten
touchdowns they had last season. I'm I'm a little shaky
on that one at best. If you're excited about Josh Reynolds,
Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin, Tim Patrick, Lil Jordan Humphrey fighting
over the number two and number three scraps in this offense. Yes,
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you can be that. Nobody's going to be Does it
get better or worse this year? I think it's worse.
From a touchdown perspective. The Broncos quarterbacks combined for twenty
nine touchdown passes. That was the fifth most in the
league last year. That's strange.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That is weird.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Wow that they had the fifth most.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So Nix is not sitting on twenty nine touchdown passes
this year, not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I bet he's if he've plays the whole season, I'd
put Nix on twenty yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So I was thinking half of that maybe, so fifteen
to twenty yeah. I think it gets worse for the
Broncos on the passing side. On the running game. What's
exciting about the running game is that it what's not exciting,
I should say, is that it could be a fourth right,
a foe headed lizard. I wanted to say monster, but
it's definitely not a monster. It's just a little lizard.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Are you in hydra territory? How many heads do you
have to have to become a I mean he's like
two enough could be a hydra.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You cut one head off and another two grow, right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Oh, so it's it's like a starfish.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Okay, the Denver starfish backfield, not the Rusty starfish. That's
totally different.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay is that an urban dictionary? So I believe it
is Javante Williams, samaj p Ryan, Jaleel McLoughlin, and newly
drafted Audric Estimate all in the running back room. Worth
noting that Javante did hold the biggest piece of the pie.
He was on the field for forty eight percent of
the snaps last year, he had fifty four percent of
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the rushing attempts, and maybe most notably, he took forty
seven percent of the rushing attempts inside the five yard line.
But as we mentioned above, this offense could flow through
the running backs via the passing game more and that's
where the other names come into play. Williams averaged three
point four targets per game, not bad. P Ryan had
three point one. McLoughlin had two point one. So wrap
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those eight and a half target it's per game into
one back. I'm really excited, right, But you're probably not
looking at that. You're probably looking at three and maybe four.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So but McLoughlin is the guy That fascinates me because
he showed some special traits and we didn't get long
looks at him. We didn't, but I he was the
guy who seemed to pop off the off off the screen.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To me, if if Samaj pe Rin wasn't in Denver,
I would totally be all in on McLoughlin as like
a sleeper guy this year. I just feel like they
signed Samaj p Ran and told him he was gonna
play last year. That was like Sean Payton's personal like
promise to him. So it's like it's like he could
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be cut. You never know, he could be traded. But
Javonte's going off the board at pick eighty four, that's
the last pick of the seventh round. McLoughlin is at
one seventy four, that's middle of the fifteenth and RB
fifty six. Pe Urine's going basically on drafted at two five.
I'm not I'm out at him, But with Javante getting
as much of the running piece of the pie that
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he's getting, I actually kind of like Javante where he's going.
I think he's a boring, sneaky upside play the tail
end of the seventh round or early eighth yep, does
it get better or we're slightly better because of the
ppr angle for the backs.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's go over the Chargers, the last team of the
AFC West that we'll talk about. Massive overhaul to the
entire offensive coaching staff Jim Harbaugh and now offensive coordinator
Greg Roman and offensive line added tackled Joe Alt with
a fifth overall pick, which makes it the third straight
year the Chargers have invested a first round pick into
their offensive line. M It's there were Sea Slater's. Yep,
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you know this is so classic Jim Harbaugh and Greg
Roman and God love him.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Because it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It's gonna work. Yep. It might be two or three years,
but it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So Mike Williams, let's start with the passing game for
the Chargers. Mike Williams released Keenan Allen traded to the
Bears last year's first round or Quinton Johnson moves into
like the number one, you know, go to receiver role
after a dismal rookie season and despite all those injuries
of the Chargers wideouts last year, Johnson was still very
lightly used. He only was running twenty eight routes. Per
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game and getting targeted three and a half times per
game and he only cut two passes per game. It
was a bad year for Quinton Johnson. He's going to
see in sizeable uptick in usage now because.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
He has to.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, and maybe his pedigree here kicks in and you know,
he becomes worthy of the first round pick that he
had a couple of weeks ago. The Chargers GM Joe
Hortitz said that Johnson is going to launch. That was
his word, launch this season. So hopefully that's the case.
You can get him almost for free wide receiver sixty
five off the board pick one fifty three.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, that's nothing, that is nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
The team also drafted Lad McConkey in the second round,
and I think he's going to start over Josh Palmer.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He ran you say, Colin mccochney, Colin.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Mc coy I like it related.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they both come from the same British.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, he's slippery, he gets a lot of separation. We've
we've broken him down a couple of times with Thor
in previous shows. I like Lad mcconckie. I think he's
gonna be better than Quentin Johnson. All probability. But you know,
Johnson might get a lot better than your two. Like
I said, so maybe maybe we're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
There's room for two widers.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well it's a good point, and it's not like the
tight end position is soaking up a bunch, so they
could both be, you know, better than expected. If you
were wondering where DJ Chark landed, it was here exactly.
Get this where Justin Herbert has plummeted down to quarterback sixteen.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Wow. Yeah, that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
That is cheap on him. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Part of it, of course, is that we know they're
going to run a lot, and so everybody's expecting the
v volume to go way way down in the passing game,
and I do two. I think the passing game overall
gets worse. I'm gonna see a ton of running. I'm
gonna explain some of this in just a minute. And
then you take off Keenan Allen and Michael Mike Williams
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and replace him with two a first year player and
a second year receiver, and the passing game likely suffers here,
I could Yeah, all right, let's go the running game,
where it's a lot more interesting for the Chargers. If
history is any indication Harbaugh and Roman are going to
have the most run heavy offense in the entire league,
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even though they've got Justin Herbert and he's great. Greg
Rowman at Baltimore as offensive coordinator, his run play percentage
ranks or most runs, the most runs, the eleventh most runs,
and the third most runs. So obviously, you know, Lamar
Jackson skews those rankings a little bit because he was
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doing some of the running. But even without Jackson, the
Ravens runners alone, we're averaging twenty one carries per game.
We are going to see a ton of running here.
Harbaugh did not pick Greg Roman by accident. You know
that is because Greg Roman is fit what he wants
to do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Brother might have said, hey, Greg Roman's right, pretty good,
you might want to go there.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Austin Eckler, of course, is gone. He's in Washington now.
And Roman brought over familiar faces from Baltimore JK Dobmins
Gus Edwards. But both of those guys never the same
since they're acls.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, that happened in consecutive weeks.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
God, those murdering I remember those murdering my fantasy teams,
those radio shows and podcasts.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yes, it was like no near suicidal. Many of many
people are intrigued by six round rookie kamani Vidal. So
his bed is, he's five foot seven, two thirteen pounds.
He's a bowling ball. Very productive at Troy. I know
you're breaking down a lot of Troy all twenty two. Yeah,
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becoming the all time leading rusher, including two thousand and
seven hundred rushing yards the last two seasons. Wow, that
is a lot of productivity for kimani Vidal. But the
problem is Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins are powerbacks two
and this looks like a frustrating time share for me.
I I much like what Roman had when he was in.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Baltimore coaching Dobbins.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Dobbins and Edwards, you know where he would use both
of them. Yeah, and so this could be a three
way time share. I'm even though the volumes gonna be
really high. I'm nervous about guessing week to week. Is
this a gust game? Is this a Dobbins game? Does
Thedal get worked in?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Sure? It's you know, you know how you play this
Chargers backfield. You don't draft any of them. You wait
till like week two, and somebody will one of them
is gonna emerge and look like the better back, and
then you can trade for them for peanuts because everybody's
gonna be like sell high on Yes Edwards. That's how
you want to play it. Yeah, like you you don't.
You don't after Chargers back.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So does the running game get better worse? I think
better overall productivity because the run heavy approach that's coming.
And then you add in Joe Alt at tackle. You
know there's gonna be some big, big running lanes for
this offensive line, but it might be more frustrating for
fantasy use because of the probable and unpredictable shared backfield
in LA.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You want to do the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, we're gonna do the NFC West, But we got
to take first Church.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yes, you're gonna take a break, thank you, not the
NFC Dord.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
We can do that in next week's show.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Let's do that next week. Let's take a break. In
the meantime, we'll be back and we'll talk about the
San Francisco forty nine ers hang out. Welcome back Fantasy
Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Matt Harrison. I don't think
it properly introduced you at the beginning, because you did.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You start talking over like, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
We've been to get fantasy. People know they all, they
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Speaker 1 (24:26):
Let's go to the NFC West and the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Not a ton of changes on the offensive side of
the ball. The most notable change is Josh Dobbs goes
from Minnesota to San Francisco and Sam Darnold goes from
San Francisco to Minnesota. Yeah, Ricky Pearsall was added as
a wide receiver with a late first round pick, but
he's squarely fourth on the depth chart right now the
passing game. I'm just gonna read off the names you
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brock Perty, Brandon Ayuk, Tebo Samuel, George Kittle, Juwan Jennings,
then Ricky pearsall and the best receiving running back in
the NFL, and Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That doesn't bode well.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh, piersoll and also one of the best offensive play
callers in the league. And Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So and by the way, I love Juwan Jennings. I'm
a huge Jean Jennings guy.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He got a new deal a couple of days ago.
He is a he is a solid wide receiver. And
because he's such a good blocker, one of the best
blocking receivers. He's on the field a lot that is
going to block, It's gonna see block. Ricky Pearsol Yeah,
I'm getting on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Wow. Brandon Ayuk has been the squeaky wheel all off season.
He wants an extension or maybe even a trade. The
Niners have supposedly been working on him. With that, the
price keeps getting higher and higher, though Amon Ross Saint Brown,
Nico Collins, and Jalen Wattle just recently had contract extensions.
The only way this goes south for this passing offense
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is if they can't figure it out, trade Ayuk, and
even then I think they still be okay.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
They got plenty of talent here.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I mean, if you're super high on Piersaw, he's totally blocked.
Deebo and Eye Yuk are on the field almost every snap,
Kittle CMC and Kyle Yuschek, who's on the field fifty
five percent of the time. The Niners extended Jennings through
the twenty twenty five season. I don't see a downturn,
But I don't see a way that Pearsol's getting on
the field for more than like fifteen twenty snaps a game.
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Maybe no agreed, and maybe he's just a special teams guy.
The running game, you have Christian McCaffrey. He's going off
at one one. The only thing that can derail McCaffrey
as injury, which we have seen from him in the
past when he was in Carolina.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It feels like a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's funny Weir I was talking about Christian McCaffrey with
somebody a couple of days ago, and it was just,
you know, a casual fantasy player, just regular fantasy player,
not somebody in the industry. And he was like, yeah,
you know, I got Christian McCaffrey on my dynasty's team.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I just I love that he plays every game.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And I'm like, it wasn't that long ago when he
was with the Panthers and he was like the biggest
risk there was. It's funny how short our memory has
gotten on those Panther days when he was a constant
soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, it was twenty twenty and twenty twenty one when
he missed those games. He's been an iron man in
his two years in San Francisco. Worth noting, though he
turns twenty eight in June, the mileage is very high
for that body, and with that in mind, the Niners
could pull back from his workload just a little bit
to try to preserve his body for another deep playoff run.
They didn't really do that last year, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Many of us thought they would and they never did.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, and Elijah Mitchell, I think everybody agrees he's a
pretty capable backup. He had twenty twenty three total yards
in twenty twenty three and had twenty one total touchdowns.
That was his best season as a pro. It was
on three hundred and thirty nine touches. It's a lot,
and he had three hundred and twenty nine touches the
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year before? So will it be better or worse than
mccaffreys To be worse, it has to be worse. He
can't outperform one one, so you're drafting him at one one.
I agree with the pick, but you can't expect him
to duplicate last year's numbers or increase on it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Somebody out there has done the math or will do
the math on other players who have had the nearly
seven hundred touches the McCaffrey has had the last two years.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
And what happens the next year?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Because I bet the I bet in.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Carolinia, it may have.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It may have. Yeh, yeah, all right, let's go to
Let's go to the La Rams after San Francisco. No
meaningful changes in the passing game at all. Jettison jettisoning
Ben Scronic does not really count as.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
A meaningful all.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So Cooper Cup returns healthy, which is nice, but he's
now each thirty and appears to be really the second
option in the passing game behind Pooka Nkua. Man his
targets Cooper Cup's targets dropped from eleven per game two
years ago last year down to eight. That's a big change,
and his downfield target rate fell badly as well. Now
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working four Cup, he enters the season healthy and last
year he never really seemed like himself. Rolled into the
season with a hamstring and it just it just never
seemed to get right for him. And working against Cup.
You know I mentioned he's gonna he's age age thirty.
Now he's gonna turn thirty one into the season. You know,
a lot of good receivers start showing their age right
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in here.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yep. And you know.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Time all is the ultimate winner. There's no beating time,
and maybe this is going to be his time. Poka
and Akua obviously exploding on the scene.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Looks fantastic.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Nicula right now going off the board wide receiver six
ninth pick Wow, all, yes, Cup going off the board
wide receiver twenty one, round three.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And which one do you would you rather have?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This is a harder one. I mean that that Pooka
spot is high, but Sean mcva but we've seen Sean
McVay power receivers to gigantic years.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I think i'd take Nikola.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, in these scenarios we are are Fantasy Football Weekly
co host. As you know, we almost all go the
second guy, the lower guy.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I think i'd rather of Nikola.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I'm gonna go with the first guy for all of them, just.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
To be different. I wouldn't blame you.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's better.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So I'm gonna say the passing game here is basically
the same. I don't think this is really a situation
where it gets a lot better or worse because almost
nothing has changed. Okay, the running game, this is a
lot more complex. Kieron Williams outlook changed a lot when
they drafted Blake.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Korum in round three.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So Williams fit had a tremendous season. Kudos to Brian
Johnson one last time we talked about him many times
last year he was he was begging people to in
the offseason to draft Kirian Williams. He finished his running
back three last year. That was a huge hit for
Brian and a huge hit for the Rams. But here's
the thing. You everybody knows Blake Korum was awesome. Last
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year for Jim harborught Michigan, Korm had a ton of
highlight plays using his low center of gravity to break
a tackle and then bounce outside and just take off.
He's got he doesn't have like track star speed, but
he's got footballs and he had these massive lanes to
run through at Michigan, and some do worry about how
that's going to translate in the NFL. He's got to
make more of his own yards. But here's the thing
(31:09):
that a lot of people don't realize and I did
not realize this. The Rams offensive line as run blockers
finished fifth by Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That helps open something.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, that does. Remember when the offensive line was a
disaster two years ago. Credit the Rams for getting it
back up to this level at least as run blockers.
And as McVeigh proved with Pukinakua mat he'll play rookies
and immediately, I mean pookau Is Game one was breakout game.
So you know, Blake Corn figures to factor in here.
(31:44):
Last year when Willie when Williams was really the only
game in town for the Rams, he averaged twenty carries
per game. One of the few workhorse guys so will
Sean McVay use a timeshare in the three season since
Todd Gurley was dominant for the Rams? Really, McVeigh used
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almost all split backfields, Sony Michelle, Darryl Henderson, Malcolm Brown,
cam Akers. My god, remember these guys. This isn't even
a long time ago, right, This is the running back
position in a nutshell, It's like two years ago, right,
like all those guys. Yes, So you know, I just
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think last year Williams got the workhorse role because everybody
else sucked.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
There was nobody there, No, it was Royce Freeman was
the next best runner. Sorry, Royce dropped the piano. Freeman,
Well done your ADPs right now? Kyron Williams running back
seven in round two, Okay, nope, yeah, I'm paying it.
I'd rather have Isaiah Pachico in.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Round four, round four, Blake Korum running back thirty nine, round.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Eleven in sign me up? Yep?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Does it get better or worse this year for the
running game for the Rams? I think it gets worse
for fantasy because carm and Williams are going to share
more than fantasy managers want to believe. All right, let's
go to our next team that is the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Well, let's start with what happened there in the offseason.
Pete Carroll and his staff are out after what like
forty years there. Yeah, former Ravens DC Mike McDonald is
the new head coach, and Ryan Grubb became the offensive
coordinator and he didn't even have to change area codes.
He held the same position at the University of Washington.
(33:35):
Not too many huge on field personnel changes in the offense.
It is notable that it's a new staff and they
traded for Sam Howell, which gets me right into the
passing game, where Gino Smith currently listed as the starter,
and the coaching staff has stated publicly that that's going
to continue. There's reports out there that McDonald said that
Sam Howell knows he's the backup but believes he has
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a bright future.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
So I do, honestly, I do too.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I see Howell as a great candidate as a reclamation
project after he absorbed one point eight million sacks last year.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And got was in a bad offense with the coaching
staff that got fired, and I could see Sam Howell
being rebuilt over time into a functional NFL starter.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Well to that point, Gino is under contract this year
and for twenty twenty five, but the cap hit to
get out from his contract next year is only thirteen million,
So feasibly, if Smith falters this year and Howell gets
a shot and is successful, the path is pretty clear
for Howell to take over. Yeah, and Gino Smith to
be cut for now. We move on with Gino though,
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and he's got one of the better trios of wide
receivers in the game with DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and
sophomore Jackson Smith and Jigba. JSN was a bit of
an afterthought in the Shane Waldron offense last year. May sure,
maybe it's because they just didn't focus on the slot.
Maybe there were too many mouths to feed. But JSN
finished with a average of like four catches and thirty
(35:00):
seven yards per game, and that sucks.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think only a couple of touchdowns from what I recollecting.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, Tyler Lockett turns thirty two in that time, the
big X factor right there. He had a bit of
a downturn last season as well, maybe due to JSN
popping in. He averaged four and a half catches in
fifty two yards per game, and his touchdown total did
a dolly pardon it dropped from nine to five. Yeahicly done.
(35:26):
There we go, all those young that is getting our
dolly parton references here. Put Lockett and JSN together. That's
one good wide receiver, but in last year's offense, neither
is a sure thing to start in fantasy DK. Metcalf
went from ninety catches to sixty six catches last year,
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but he had more receiving yards and more touchdowns, so
the efficiency is off the charts right. He averaged almost
seventeen yards per catch'ts and scored on one in eight receptions. Wow.
If they can get him back closer to ninety catches
at that rate, you're looking at fifteen hundred yards and
twelve touchdowns. That's great. Metcalf going off the board at
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pick thirty eight, that's the beginning of the fourth JSN
is in the ninth and Lockett as a tenth round ADP.
I don't know who I choose. It probably Metcalf still
at the higher ADP, just because I don't know if
I can trust either of those guys yep to not
cannibalize each other. So that's probably where I'm going Noah
Fant by the way as the top tight end, but
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he'll go undrafted in most formats. And it is worth
noting that Ryan Grubbs Washington Huskies offense ranked first in
major college football in passing yards. They averaged three hundred
and sixty nine passing yards per game last year.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, a quarterback and at your quarterback and number one
wide receiver both went in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Absolutely, so there's some reasons to think the passing game
can get better this season. On the running side, Pete
Carroll like to have a bellcow running back. Mike McDonald
came from Baltimore where they constantly had backs churning due
to injury, mostly, but Harbaugh did like to ride the
hot hand too. Last year in Washington, Ryan Grubbs offense
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had a belcow back as well. Though Dylan Johnson carried
the ball two hundred and thirty three times last year,
the next closest teammate in rushing attempts was Michael Pennix
with thirty five, so almost two hundred more. That bodes
well if you're a Kenneth Walker believer, as Zach Charboney
had a big chunk of the middle of the season
where Walker was banged up and Charboney basically did nothing
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in three consecutive fourteen plus carry games. So I imagine Walker
is the lead dog in Charbonay, just as the change
of pace third down guy. Walker has scored exactly nine
times in each of his first two seasons, and if
he stays on the field and is healthy, it's his job.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'd love to make a case because of Sharboney's draft equity,
and he didn't like to make a case for Sharbonay
breaking out here with the catches, Walker looks good. Yeah,
he's just a good back.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
He's good. He's good so you can catch the ball.
He's a good runner. There's room for the running game
him to approve here. I think it actually will a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Let's go to the Arizona Cardinals, our final team of
this show. You already mentioned earlier in the show, Hollywood
Brown gone now in Kansas City. In his place, Marvin
Harrison Junior, the fourth pick of the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah yeah, can't buy his jersey though.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, no yet, they'll work that. Aside from Trey McBride,
there's basically no competition for targets for Marvin Harrison in
this one. The other receivers are sophomore Michael Wilson, who,
by the way preview of coming attractions, he will be
one of my biggest sleepers of the year okay, and
slack eye Greg Dortsch, along with journeymans like Zay Jones
(38:43):
and Zach Pascal who do not count. Harrison will start
on day one. Could have Rookie of the Year season,
right I think currently the betting odds only of Caleb
Williams ahead of Harrison to win Rookie of the Year.
You already know Harrison is an elite prospect. Countless big
plays at AU, athletic ability, route, savvy, finishing skills, big plays.
(39:04):
Just there's so many things to like about Harrison, and
I think you're talking about me right now, very very much.
So you in the backyard with the it's a ball, Yes, yeah,
growing out. Yeah, a pookinaool level of rookie usage is possible.
Oh yeah for Marvin Harrison here due to his just
NFL readiness is so high.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Adp right now.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wide receiver ten for Marvin Harrison, there's a lot of respectimism.
That's a lot of optimism right there.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
He's just picking yep.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I can't remember another rookie going at that level of
drafts at receiver. I mean it happens a running back
all time, Yeah, not receiver. This is kind of uncharted territory.
From off the top of my head, I have not actually, yeah,
I don't analyze the data looking back, Like, I don't
think Jamar Chase or C.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
D Lamb or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Justin Jefferson, nobody liked that.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think was going that high.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
No. Trey McBride is the other big story. His breakout
last year coincided with Kyler Murray's return and helped power
a lot of teams to fantasy championships because you got
him off the waiver wire mid season. Week eight is
when he had his big breakout game. From Week eight forward,
he was a top five tight end the rest of
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the way. He was the most targeted tight end in
the NFL from Week eight forward, Tery McBride.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
So we have a top five tight end, we have
a top five wide receiver. We got one of your
favorite sleepers. You gotta be feeling pretty good about Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know Kyler Murray is he is going to be
a value pick. I mean people are really down on him.
And I've brought this up many times in the offseason,
and I don't have the numbers memorized, but a Arizona's offense,
which was dismal almost all year, but the final five
games of the year, I believe they averaged twenty five
and a half points per game. So we saw it
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starting to come to get other. Yeah, in Arizona at
the end of last year, Kyler Murray is gonna be
is gonna be a value for somebody. The ADP on
Trey McBride tight end three round four, Wow, that's high.
People are very optimistic it's gonna continue.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Do you feel like this year the tight ends, at
least that group of like five or six tight ends
who are at the top are going to be just
vaulted up, because after you get past that first block
of tight ends, it's just a disaster. No.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
In fact, I think this is the first time in
like five years where I feel like tight end is
pretty deep. Okay, Yeah, in my estimation, weighting on this
is because I'm never that guy like weight on tight end.
This is the year I think I'm gonna wait on
tight end.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, let's talk running gain. Oh well, By the way,
does the passing game get better? Yes, obviously, yeah, I
think clearly better with Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride now
entering his third year running game. This is fascinating. I
think the best runner on the Cardinals is rookie Trey Benson.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
You were pretty high on Benson going into the draft.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I was, but it may take him a while to
get onto the field in a meaningful way, and that
part worries me. With Benson, you get a fast player
with great vision, patience. He breaks tackles, he hits home
run plays, he's got great footwork, literally never fumbled in college.
He can catch, and he was lately used at Florida State.
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So you're not getting somebody with the bunch of mileage
on him.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I love him.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
The problem is James Connor had the best year of
his season or career, best year of his career last
year on a terrible Arizona team. It's wild where did
that come from? He finished his Pro Football Focus's fifth
best running back. He averaged five yards per carry, highest
mark of his career. He ranked second in yards after
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contact James Connor three point nine yards after contact. He
finished sixth in rushes of fifteen yards or more, all
this despite a run blocking line that ranked twenty sixth
by Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
He's doing it himself. He's doing it himself. He's a
DIY runner.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yep. Now Connor is twenty nine years old. Yeah, so,
I mean we're right on the cusp, but we're guys
nose dive and I think Connor will not sustain that
level of productivity.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
He's also got a big injury history too.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
He does, yeah, he does. Now, he's been lightly used.
Connor's never top two und fifteen carries a season. So
maybe the end, maybe it's not going to go on
to these drive like Gena Davis off the cliff kind.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Of Dealilman luis, Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So maybe, But I think the issue here is how
long until Trey Benson takes over. It might be mid season.
I think it might be mid season, could be beyond,
But I just I can't see James Connor posting that
kind of productivity.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Again. Sure, and it's probably closer to a timeshare than
maybe Trey Bentson taking over, But this is the most
capable backup James Connor has seen in his.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
By a million miles.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
All Right, So the ADP here Connor's ADP is running
back twenty four, Benson's thirty three. Oh, you're gonna have
to devil patience on Benson, but you can get him
three rounds later.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Thirty three is four rounds. Kind of high for a
backup running that's on the high end of the backup
that is it is. So you may have to reach
around for a guy like Trey Benson. To steal a
term from our preseason shows.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Maybe we get both. Yeah, draft them both, you can.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
U does the running game get better or worse for
Arizona in totality better because they have a better one
two punch than they've had in.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
The last time Arizona had a good one two punch
at running back Edger and James and Tim high Tower.
That's how long it's been.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I forgot for all those guys. I forgot both of
those guys cardinals.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
And they went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Oh they did?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah. Emmett Smith as a former cardinal.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Adrian Peterson is a formal cardinal. Wow, yeah, we're cardinal
Where running backs go to die.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
It is like a retirement community.
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Speaker 3 (45:15):
It only makes sense hit Sedona during the day. Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Hey how about next week, Yeah, let's do the norths.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
The North's Yeah, the Black and Blue divisions.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
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Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. Our slog through each of
the off season divisions continues shows.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what the show that you and Fish had
last week, it was it was super fun. I enjoyed
listening to your greasy belly flop.
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Creamy belly flop, and it was fantastic.
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You guys did a great job. Thank And if you're
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good stuff.
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It was. Uh, nobody ever breaks down belly flops anymore,
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That fantasy belly flops. Yeah, absolutely exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So the premise as we as we go through this
month long tour of all not a slog, it's now
a tour. I've upgraded from slog to tour. Uh, look
at every NFL team, highlight the key differences from last year.
Do we think these offenses are better? Do we think
they're worse, you know, just get up to speed on
all these different teams. Sure, we now turn our attention
(01:19):
to the AFC West and the NFC West, Matt, and
this is your first crack at it. We'll start with
Kansas City. They get to go first.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You do want to start with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
When you win the Super Bowl, you get to go
first on Fantasy Football Week.
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Yeah. Well, for additions and subtractions, Marquise Brown signed a
one year deal there. The speedy Xavier Worthy was the
Chief's first round pick. He should slot in a lot
of wide receiver packages immediately. Uh, they did add Carson
Wentz very quietly as the backup there.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I like that move.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I kind of like that move as well. Irv Smith
now backing up Travis Kelcey. And addition by subtraction, maybe
Marquez Veldez Scandling he's gone, Mikole Hardman, he's gone. A
possible subtraction of Rashie Rice, who keeps getting an off
season trouble. But we'll have to pay attention to that
as we get closer to the season. Starting in the
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passing game, you still got Mahomes, Kelsey and Rice as
your core. That just won you the Super Bowl. I'm
feeling pretty good as a starting point right there. And
you've added a steady veteran in Hollywood Brown, who gets
some streaks of eye popping numbers in the past. He's
been pretty good along the lines.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And obviously with the best passer he's ever worked with. Absolutely,
and if Xavier Worthy's not able to contribute early, you
know Marquise Brown is going to be an intriguing guy
to pick your spots to play.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, especially if Rashie Rice is facing any kind of
suspension or disciplinary action from the league. But I do
think if Xavier Worthy flashes in camp in the preseason,
I think they involve him right away. I think I
think it'll be quicker than you think. The Chiefs did
have eight different wide receivers average at least one target
per game.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
How do you do that? It's impossible. Justin Watson and
Sky Moore are currently the depth pieces on the roster.
Kadarius Tony still under contract as well, but he hasn't
played a snap since Week fifteen of last year. Tony
likely only makes the roster if there's an injury or
a right I think he gets cut for better or
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worse on the on the passing game, I think Brown
and Worthy are additions that have to make their passing
game look a little bit better than last year.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Especially from a big play standpoint.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know we've seen we think of classic Mahomes and
Tyreek Hill Was there are just these long, deep bombs
that would connect in the big plays. Just year after
year that is slowly decreased, Shorter passes, fewer big plays.
Now with Brown and Worthy, you feel like the Chiefs
and Mahomes are ready to strike downfield again.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, I think I think that that's a fair assumption
on the running side of the game. Maybe I'm wrong,
but Isaiah Pacheco looks primed to be an absolute bel
cow this year. In games where Pacheco touched the ball
fewer than fifteen times, the Chiefs had a record of
one in three. In games that the Chiefs won, Pacheco
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averaged twenty point three touches. Wow. He played eighteen games
last year, including the playoffs. He scored a touchdown in
eleven of them. Now, he's not gonna put up like
Christian McCaffrey numbers or anything like that. But in this
running back landscape, which it's harder to find guys who
get huge shares of touches. I think Isaiah Pacheco sitting
on a pretty good opportunity here. There were only fourteen
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running backs who had averaged seventeen touches per game last season,
and he was one of them. Devon a Chain, for instance,
he averaged eleven point eight touches per game. He's going
a full two rounds ahead of Pacheco's ADP of forty
or the mid fourth round. Yea. The backups are Clyde
Edwards E Laire and Keyante ingram Over for Arizona non factor,
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non factors at all. I'm clearing of them at all.
So better or worse is you can probably tell. I'm
pretty bullish on Isaiah Pacheco, you know, maybe popping off
and being a top five back at the end of
the year that you can get in the fourth round.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, if, if, if he's my first running back taken, he's.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I never I've never taken running backs in the first
three rounds, but he's.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
A perfect fourth round guy to start your running back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Absolutely, yea, I love it. Do you think the running
game gets better this year?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think it does. I think I think with all
the opportunities that the passing game has, I think Pacheco
is sitting on a good year. Here, let's go to
the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Raiders brought back interim head coach Antonio Peers in the offseason,
and then he inexplicably hired former Bears offensive coordinator Luke
Getzi why, I don't know whatever, overhauled their offensive line
in Las Vegas, in including putting second and third round
picks into their offensive line, which should help what it
was last year basically a middle of the pack to
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slightly below average unit passing game. Here is the big
story is the addition of rookie tight end Brock Bauers.
Matt unexpectedly slid to pick thirteen in the NFL Draft,
and I think at that point the Raiders like, we
just got to take the best guy off the board,
even though they had taken the first tight end off
the board the previous year as well. You know, I
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think in a different year, when six quarterbacks weren't drafted
in the top twelve picks, Bowers would have been like
a top five guy besides on talent, besides all the
way to number number thirteen. He brings the most college
production and fantasy optimism as a rookie since TJ. Hockinson,
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Vernon Davis, Jeremy Shockey, from Old Guys, Kyle Pitts, Yep,
Yep Raiders took. I mentioned Michael Mayer was the draft
pick last year.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
His dynasty value.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just got destroyed. Did Yeah, that's it's he is officially
dead at this point.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That unfortunately, it is.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's It was a quick it was a quick life,
the life and times of Michael Mayer. It's over unless
Aiden O'Connell gets a lot better. Gardner, Minshew's going to
take over a quarterback, Matt.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think it's Minshew's job. I think that they signed
him to a pretty decent contract. Yeah, to say that
h's his job.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
He was non awful last year, is in he's starting quarterback?
I think we'd say, said Gardner, Minshew is just non awful.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's just what he is.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's right. He had a handful of good games, And
so I was looking back at Minshew's stats as somebody
most was didn't start most weeks. He'd have these spike games, Matt,
where if you did start him, you got paid. But
here was the catch. They were totally unguessable. It came
against a great Cleveland secondary, a great New Orleans secondary, Pittsburgh,
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you know, these great defense You never would have started
Gardner Minshew in those games, and that was what he
went up.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know, you know what Gardner Minshew is going to become.
He's going to be come Stu Beard. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Maybe, so he's going to be like that, Like that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Pass around to eighteen different teams, start for all of them,
put up a couple of crazy six touchdown games when
you're like, what, I should have had him in my lineup? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Maybe maybe Minshew caps the upside for all the Raiders receivers.
His top receiver last year was Michael Pittman. He only
scored four times. Minshew finished twenty seventh in a dot.
I don't love that. The deep deep ball completion percentage
was just thirty nine percent. That was that nestled him
between Josh Dobbs and Will Levis in deep ball pass
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That's not good. That's not good. Thirty third in completion
percentage at all depths. So it's just it's you know,
this offense is just capped by the quarterback position. Unfortunately,
Devanta Adams managed an okase season despite the quarterbacking of
Adian O'Connell and Jimmy Garoppolo and Brian Hoyer. You remember
those starts? Ah, Yes, Yeah, Adams finished his wide receiver
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four teen. He was fifth in targets, which proves that
just volume alone can't propel DeVante Adams to greatness. I mean,
he needs better quarterbacking. He's not gonna have it here.
Devanta Adams ADP very high. I think he's wide receiver nine.
He finished his fourteen last year. He's on the second
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half of his career.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Arc.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't that feels a little bit high. You can
get Jacoby Myers with what a nice season? Yeah, wide
receiver fifty four.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I don't think that you're getting much of a
drop off there.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
No, the drop offs not that severe.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, so, but that's only if you really want to
have a Raiders wide receiver on your team.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, and if I do, I'm paying. If I'm paying
for one at their ADP Jacoby Myers pick one hundred
and twenty two, not DeVante Adams pick fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm kind of shocked that DeVante Adams has not demanded
a trade.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, I am too, to be honest, I mean, this
isn't what he signed up for. No, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So, yeah, you're probably right, and maybe that ends up
happening that maybe maybe let's move over to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean Russell Wilson is gone. That's the biggest
change there.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wait, hold on, I forgot the whole running game for
the Raiders. Oh gosh, give me a second.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, Russell Wilson ran against the Raiders. Thank you. Nice try.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, massive change here as Josh Jacobs was allowed to
leave in free agency. Zamir Whites your presumed starter, Matt,
and you'll remember he got some reps as the starter
in the last month of the season last year, and
he got some long looks. He had a seventeen attempt game,
a twenty two attempt game, a twenty attempt game, a
twenty five attempt game.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And we love volume.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You alluded to this with Checko hard to find volume backs,
but Antonio Pierce like seems to like his workhorse backs.
I thought White looked pretty good some explosive runs. In
Zamir White's four starts, he had seven runs of more
than ten yards. His backup is now Alexander Madison. He
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had explosive run rates of double that.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Of Alexander Madison, which is in sane a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
White only scored one touchdown in those four starts, but
Alexander Madison's no threat to steal touchdowns. Dude never scores.
So White's ADP is really interesting. It's our running back
twenty three seventy seventh overall, despite being a high volume
workhorseback with no competition for goal line work.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think he's a due the opposite magnet in the
seventh round.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah. Maybe the offensive line gets better as well. With
the improvements that they made, they reshuffling this offensive line,
I think this running back running game for Las Vegas
gets a little bit better, all right. Now, the aforementioned
Russell Wilson in Denver.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
He's gone.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He's gone.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Jerry Judy gone as well, was traded to Cleveland, and
starting center Lloyd cushion Berry, the third signed to the
biggest center contract in the history of the league with Tennessee.
So he's gone as well.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Lloyd cushion Berry Thugh, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's a pretty good name. The coaching staff under Sean
Payton and coordinators stayed exactly the same. The biggest addition
is new quarterback Bo Nix, who the Broncos took with
the twelve pick. They also added wide receiver Troy Franklin
in the fourth and audrich Estime in the fifth. Passing game.
It all flows through bow Knix, who is the presumed
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opening day starter. Nicks known for his highly accurate short
passing game. He completed seventy four point nine percent of
his passes at Oregon over the last two years.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Which in itself is impressive, but you know, his a
dot was like five yards.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He also had seventy four touchdown passes to only ten
interceptions in that spans, so the numbers were good. Obviously,
it's a step up and level of play. And he's
not known for the long ball, but when Peyton was
coaching in Drew Brees or Drew Brees in New Orleans,
Breese wasn't really known as a bomber either. And if
you remember correctly, Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram caught a
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ton of balls out of the backfield. Yeah, and I
mentioned this in the First Round Aftermath podcast that we
did a couple of weeks ago. The last year the
Broncos running backs were targeted one hundred and fifty times,
and they led the league with one hundred and thirty
one receptions.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Uh. Some may be excited about Courtland Sutton's role maybe
increasing with the loss of Jerry Judy, but his a
dot last year was a very deep fourteen point four deep,
and of wide receivers who had at least eighty targets
last year, only four players had a longer a dot
than Sutton. That was Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Brandon Ayuk
and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, that, well, that's what I want.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I want.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I want receivers who get thrown too deep and can
catch it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, but ken Bow nicks through.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, Okay, that's a fair question. That's that's that That's
a fair question.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
That's the question. Yeah. So with that said, I don't
think the quality of targets goes up for Sutton, and
I think you're completely reliant on him duplicating his ten
touchdowns they had last season. I'm I'm a little shaky
on that one at best. If you're excited about Josh Reynolds,
Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin, Tim Patrick, Lil Jordan Humphrey fighting
over the number two and number three scraps in this offense. Yes,
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you can be that. Nobody's going to be Does it
get better or worse this year? I think it's worse.
From a touchdown perspective. The Broncos quarterbacks combined for twenty
nine touchdown passes. That was the fifth most in the
league last year. That's strange.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That is weird.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Wow that they had the fifth most.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So Nix is not sitting on twenty nine touchdown passes
this year, not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I bet he's if he've plays the whole season, I'd
put Nix on twenty yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So I was thinking half of that maybe, so fifteen
to twenty yeah. I think it gets worse for the
Broncos on the passing side. On the running game. What's
exciting about the running game is that it what's not exciting,
I should say, is that it could be a fourth right,
a foe headed lizard. I wanted to say monster, but
it's definitely not a monster. It's just a little lizard.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Are you in hydra territory? How many heads do you
have to have to become a I mean he's like
two enough could be a hydra.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You cut one head off and another two grow, right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Oh, so it's it's like a starfish.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Okay, the Denver starfish backfield, not the Rusty starfish. That's
totally different.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay is that an urban dictionary? So I believe it
is Javante Williams, samaj p Ryan, Jaleel McLoughlin, and newly
drafted Audric Estimate all in the running back room. Worth
noting that Javante did hold the biggest piece of the pie.
He was on the field for forty eight percent of
the snaps last year, he had fifty four percent of
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the rushing attempts, and maybe most notably, he took forty
seven percent of the rushing attempts inside the five yard line.
But as we mentioned above, this offense could flow through
the running backs via the passing game more and that's
where the other names come into play. Williams averaged three
point four targets per game, not bad. P Ryan had
three point one. McLoughlin had two point one. So wrap
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those eight and a half target it's per game into
one back. I'm really excited, right, But you're probably not
looking at that. You're probably looking at three and maybe four.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So but McLoughlin is the guy That fascinates me because
he showed some special traits and we didn't get long
looks at him. We didn't, but I he was the
guy who seemed to pop off the off off the screen.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To me, if if Samaj pe Rin wasn't in Denver,
I would totally be all in on McLoughlin as like
a sleeper guy this year. I just feel like they
signed Samaj p Ran and told him he was gonna
play last year. That was like Sean Payton's personal like
promise to him. So it's like it's like he could
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be cut. You never know, he could be traded. But
Javonte's going off the board at pick eighty four, that's
the last pick of the seventh round. McLoughlin is at
one seventy four, that's middle of the fifteenth and RB
fifty six. Pe Urine's going basically on drafted at two five.
I'm not I'm out at him, But with Javante getting
as much of the running piece of the pie that
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he's getting, I actually kind of like Javante where he's going.
I think he's a boring, sneaky upside play the tail
end of the seventh round or early eighth yep, does
it get better or we're slightly better because of the
ppr angle for the backs.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's go over the Chargers, the last team of the
AFC West that we'll talk about. Massive overhaul to the
entire offensive coaching staff Jim Harbaugh and now offensive coordinator
Greg Roman and offensive line added tackled Joe Alt with
a fifth overall pick, which makes it the third straight
year the Chargers have invested a first round pick into
their offensive line. M It's there were Sea Slater's. Yep,
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you know this is so classic Jim Harbaugh and Greg
Roman and God love him.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Because it's gonna pay off.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It's gonna work. Yep. It might be two or three years,
but it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So Mike Williams, let's start with the passing game for
the Chargers. Mike Williams released Keenan Allen traded to the
Bears last year's first round or Quinton Johnson moves into
like the number one, you know, go to receiver role
after a dismal rookie season and despite all those injuries
of the Chargers wideouts last year, Johnson was still very
lightly used. He only was running twenty eight routes. Per
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game and getting targeted three and a half times per
game and he only cut two passes per game. It
was a bad year for Quinton Johnson. He's going to
see in sizeable uptick in usage now because.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
He has to.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, and maybe his pedigree here kicks in and you know,
he becomes worthy of the first round pick that he
had a couple of weeks ago. The Chargers GM Joe
Hortitz said that Johnson is going to launch. That was
his word, launch this season. So hopefully that's the case.
You can get him almost for free wide receiver sixty
five off the board pick one fifty three.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, that's nothing, that is nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
The team also drafted Lad McConkey in the second round,
and I think he's going to start over Josh Palmer.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He ran you say, Colin mccochney, Colin.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Mc coy I like it related.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they both come from the same British.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, he's slippery, he gets a lot of separation. We've
we've broken him down a couple of times with Thor
in previous shows. I like Lad mcconckie. I think he's
gonna be better than Quentin Johnson. All probability. But you know,
Johnson might get a lot better than your two. Like
I said, so maybe maybe we're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
There's room for two widers.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well it's a good point, and it's not like the
tight end position is soaking up a bunch, so they
could both be, you know, better than expected. If you
were wondering where DJ Chark landed, it was here exactly.
Get this where Justin Herbert has plummeted down to quarterback sixteen.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Wow. Yeah, that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
That is cheap on him. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Part of it, of course, is that we know they're
going to run a lot, and so everybody's expecting the
v volume to go way way down in the passing game,
and I do two. I think the passing game overall
gets worse. I'm gonna see a ton of running. I'm
gonna explain some of this in just a minute. And
then you take off Keenan Allen and Michael Mike Williams
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and replace him with two a first year player and
a second year receiver, and the passing game likely suffers here,
I could Yeah, all right, let's go the running game,
where it's a lot more interesting for the Chargers. If
history is any indication Harbaugh and Roman are going to
have the most run heavy offense in the entire league,
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even though they've got Justin Herbert and he's great. Greg
Rowman at Baltimore as offensive coordinator, his run play percentage
ranks or most runs, the most runs, the eleventh most runs,
and the third most runs. So obviously, you know, Lamar
Jackson skews those rankings a little bit because he was
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doing some of the running. But even without Jackson, the
Ravens runners alone, we're averaging twenty one carries per game.
We are going to see a ton of running here.
Harbaugh did not pick Greg Roman by accident. You know
that is because Greg Roman is fit what he wants
to do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Brother might have said, hey, Greg Roman's right, pretty good,
you might want to go there.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Austin Eckler, of course, is gone. He's in Washington now.
And Roman brought over familiar faces from Baltimore JK Dobmins
Gus Edwards. But both of those guys never the same
since they're acls.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, that happened in consecutive weeks.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
God, those murdering I remember those murdering my fantasy teams,
those radio shows and podcasts.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yes, it was like no near suicidal. Many of many
people are intrigued by six round rookie kamani Vidal. So
his bed is, he's five foot seven, two thirteen pounds.
He's a bowling ball. Very productive at Troy. I know
you're breaking down a lot of Troy all twenty two. Yeah,
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becoming the all time leading rusher, including two thousand and
seven hundred rushing yards the last two seasons. Wow, that
is a lot of productivity for kimani Vidal. But the
problem is Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins are powerbacks two
and this looks like a frustrating time share for me.
I I much like what Roman had when he was in.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Baltimore coaching Dobbins.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Dobbins and Edwards, you know where he would use both
of them. Yeah, and so this could be a three
way time share. I'm even though the volumes gonna be
really high. I'm nervous about guessing week to week. Is
this a gust game? Is this a Dobbins game? Does
Thedal get worked in?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Sure? It's you know, you know how you play this
Chargers backfield. You don't draft any of them. You wait
till like week two, and somebody will one of them
is gonna emerge and look like the better back, and
then you can trade for them for peanuts because everybody's
gonna be like sell high on Yes Edwards. That's how
you want to play it. Yeah, like you you don't.
You don't after Chargers back.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So does the running game get better worse? I think
better overall productivity because the run heavy approach that's coming.
And then you add in Joe Alt at tackle. You
know there's gonna be some big, big running lanes for
this offensive line, but it might be more frustrating for
fantasy use because of the probable and unpredictable shared backfield
in LA.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You want to do the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, we're gonna do the NFC West, But we got
to take first Church.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yes, you're gonna take a break, thank you, not the
NFC Dord.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
We can do that in next week's show.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Let's do that next week. Let's take a break. In
the meantime, we'll be back and we'll talk about the
San Francisco forty nine ers hang out. Welcome back Fantasy
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Speaker 3 (23:45):
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Speaker 1 (23:48):
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Speaker 3 (23:56):
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Speaker 1 (24:04):
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Speaker 3 (24:07):
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
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Speaker 3 (24:11):
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Speaker 4 (24:21):
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all right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Let's go to the NFC West and the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Not a ton of changes on the offensive side of
the ball. The most notable change is Josh Dobbs goes
from Minnesota to San Francisco and Sam Darnold goes from
San Francisco to Minnesota. Yeah, Ricky Pearsall was added as
a wide receiver with a late first round pick, but
he's squarely fourth on the depth chart right now the
passing game. I'm just gonna read off the names you
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brock Perty, Brandon Ayuk, Tebo Samuel, George Kittle, Juwan Jennings,
then Ricky pearsall and the best receiving running back in
the NFL, and Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That doesn't bode well.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh, piersoll and also one of the best offensive play
callers in the league. And Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So and by the way, I love Juwan Jennings. I'm
a huge Jean Jennings guy.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
He got a new deal a couple of days ago.
He is a he is a solid wide receiver. And
because he's such a good blocker, one of the best
blocking receivers. He's on the field a lot that is
going to block, It's gonna see block. Ricky Pearsol Yeah,
I'm getting on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Wow. Brandon Ayuk has been the squeaky wheel all off season.
He wants an extension or maybe even a trade. The
Niners have supposedly been working on him. With that, the
price keeps getting higher and higher, though Amon Ross Saint Brown,
Nico Collins, and Jalen Wattle just recently had contract extensions.
The only way this goes south for this passing offense
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is if they can't figure it out, trade Ayuk, and
even then I think they still be okay.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
They got plenty of talent here.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I mean, if you're super high on Piersaw, he's totally blocked.
Deebo and Eye Yuk are on the field almost every snap,
Kittle CMC and Kyle Yuschek, who's on the field fifty
five percent of the time. The Niners extended Jennings through
the twenty twenty five season. I don't see a downturn,
But I don't see a way that Pearsol's getting on
the field for more than like fifteen twenty snaps a game.
(26:17):
Maybe no agreed, and maybe he's just a special teams guy.
The running game, you have Christian McCaffrey. He's going off
at one one. The only thing that can derail McCaffrey
as injury, which we have seen from him in the
past when he was in Carolina.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It feels like a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's funny Weir I was talking about Christian McCaffrey with
somebody a couple of days ago, and it was just,
you know, a casual fantasy player, just regular fantasy player,
not somebody in the industry. And he was like, yeah,
you know, I got Christian McCaffrey on my dynasty's team.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I just I love that he plays every game.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And I'm like, it wasn't that long ago when he
was with the Panthers and he was like the biggest
risk there was. It's funny how short our memory has
gotten on those Panther days when he was a constant
soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, it was twenty twenty and twenty twenty one when
he missed those games. He's been an iron man in
his two years in San Francisco. Worth noting, though he
turns twenty eight in June, the mileage is very high
for that body, and with that in mind, the Niners
could pull back from his workload just a little bit
to try to preserve his body for another deep playoff run.
They didn't really do that last year, not at all.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Many of us thought they would and they never did.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, and Elijah Mitchell, I think everybody agrees he's a
pretty capable backup. He had twenty twenty three total yards
in twenty twenty three and had twenty one total touchdowns.
That was his best season as a pro. It was
on three hundred and thirty nine touches. It's a lot,
and he had three hundred and twenty nine touches the
(27:43):
year before? So will it be better or worse than
mccaffreys To be worse, it has to be worse. He
can't outperform one one, so you're drafting him at one one.
I agree with the pick, but you can't expect him
to duplicate last year's numbers or increase on it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Somebody out there has done the math or will do
the math on other players who have had the nearly
seven hundred touches the McCaffrey has had the last two years.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
And what happens the next year?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Because I bet the I bet in.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Carolinia, it may have.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It may have. Yeh, yeah, all right, let's go to
Let's go to the La Rams after San Francisco. No
meaningful changes in the passing game at all. Jettison jettisoning
Ben Scronic does not really count as.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
A meaningful all.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So Cooper Cup returns healthy, which is nice, but he's
now each thirty and appears to be really the second
option in the passing game behind Pooka Nkua. Man his
targets Cooper Cup's targets dropped from eleven per game two
years ago last year down to eight. That's a big change,
and his downfield target rate fell badly as well. Now
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working four Cup, he enters the season healthy and last
year he never really seemed like himself. Rolled into the
season with a hamstring and it just it just never
seemed to get right for him. And working against Cup.
You know I mentioned he's gonna he's age age thirty.
Now he's gonna turn thirty one into the season. You know,
a lot of good receivers start showing their age right
(29:17):
in here.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yep. And you know.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Time all is the ultimate winner. There's no beating time,
and maybe this is going to be his time. Poka
and Akua obviously exploding on the scene.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Looks fantastic.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Nicula right now going off the board wide receiver six
ninth pick Wow, all, yes, Cup going off the board
wide receiver twenty one, round three.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And which one do you would you rather have?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This is a harder one. I mean that that Pooka
spot is high, but Sean mcva but we've seen Sean
McVay power receivers to gigantic years.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I think i'd take Nikola.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, in these scenarios we are are Fantasy Football Weekly
co host. As you know, we almost all go the
second guy, the lower guy.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I think i'd rather of Nikola.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I'm gonna go with the first guy for all of them, just.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
To be different. I wouldn't blame you.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's better.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So I'm gonna say the passing game here is basically
the same. I don't think this is really a situation
where it gets a lot better or worse because almost
nothing has changed. Okay, the running game, this is a
lot more complex. Kieron Williams outlook changed a lot when
they drafted Blake.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Korum in round three.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So Williams fit had a tremendous season. Kudos to Brian
Johnson one last time we talked about him many times
last year he was he was begging people to in
the offseason to draft Kirian Williams. He finished his running
back three last year. That was a huge hit for
Brian and a huge hit for the Rams. But here's
the thing. You everybody knows Blake Korum was awesome. Last
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year for Jim harborught Michigan, Korm had a ton of
highlight plays using his low center of gravity to break
a tackle and then bounce outside and just take off.
He's got he doesn't have like track star speed, but
he's got footballs and he had these massive lanes to
run through at Michigan, and some do worry about how
that's going to translate in the NFL. He's got to
make more of his own yards. But here's the thing
(31:09):
that a lot of people don't realize and I did
not realize this. The Rams offensive line as run blockers
finished fifth by Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That helps open something.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, that does. Remember when the offensive line was a
disaster two years ago. Credit the Rams for getting it
back up to this level at least as run blockers.
And as McVeigh proved with Pukinakua mat he'll play rookies
and immediately, I mean pookau Is Game one was breakout game.
So you know, Blake Corn figures to factor in here.
(31:44):
Last year when Willie when Williams was really the only
game in town for the Rams, he averaged twenty carries
per game. One of the few workhorse guys so will
Sean McVay use a timeshare in the three season since
Todd Gurley was dominant for the Rams? Really, McVeigh used
(32:05):
almost all split backfields, Sony Michelle, Darryl Henderson, Malcolm Brown,
cam Akers. My god, remember these guys. This isn't even
a long time ago, right, This is the running back
position in a nutshell, It's like two years ago, right,
like all those guys. Yes, So you know, I just
(32:26):
think last year Williams got the workhorse role because everybody
else sucked.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
There was nobody there, No, it was Royce Freeman was
the next best runner. Sorry, Royce dropped the piano. Freeman,
Well done your ADPs right now? Kyron Williams running back
seven in round two, Okay, nope, yeah, I'm paying it.
I'd rather have Isaiah Pachico in.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Round four, round four, Blake Korum running back thirty nine, round.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Eleven in sign me up? Yep?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Does it get better or worse this year for the
running game for the Rams? I think it gets worse
for fantasy because carm and Williams are going to share
more than fantasy managers want to believe. All right, let's
go to our next team that is the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Well, let's start with what happened there in the offseason.
Pete Carroll and his staff are out after what like
forty years there. Yeah, former Ravens DC Mike McDonald is
the new head coach, and Ryan Grubb became the offensive
coordinator and he didn't even have to change area codes.
He held the same position at the University of Washington.
(33:35):
Not too many huge on field personnel changes in the offense.
It is notable that it's a new staff and they
traded for Sam Howell, which gets me right into the
passing game, where Gino Smith currently listed as the starter,
and the coaching staff has stated publicly that that's going
to continue. There's reports out there that McDonald said that
Sam Howell knows he's the backup but believes he has
(33:56):
a bright future.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
So I do, honestly, I do too.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I see Howell as a great candidate as a reclamation
project after he absorbed one point eight million sacks last year.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And got was in a bad offense with the coaching
staff that got fired, and I could see Sam Howell
being rebuilt over time into a functional NFL starter.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Well to that point, Gino is under contract this year
and for twenty twenty five, but the cap hit to
get out from his contract next year is only thirteen million,
So feasibly, if Smith falters this year and Howell gets
a shot and is successful, the path is pretty clear
for Howell to take over. Yeah, and Gino Smith to
be cut for now. We move on with Gino though,
(34:38):
and he's got one of the better trios of wide
receivers in the game with DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and
sophomore Jackson Smith and Jigba. JSN was a bit of
an afterthought in the Shane Waldron offense last year. May sure,
maybe it's because they just didn't focus on the slot.
Maybe there were too many mouths to feed. But JSN
finished with a average of like four catches and thirty
(35:00):
seven yards per game, and that sucks.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think only a couple of touchdowns from what I recollecting.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, Tyler Lockett turns thirty two in that time, the
big X factor right there. He had a bit of
a downturn last season as well, maybe due to JSN
popping in. He averaged four and a half catches in
fifty two yards per game, and his touchdown total did
a dolly pardon it dropped from nine to five. Yeahicly done.
(35:26):
There we go, all those young that is getting our
dolly parton references here. Put Lockett and JSN together. That's
one good wide receiver, but in last year's offense, neither
is a sure thing to start in fantasy DK. Metcalf
went from ninety catches to sixty six catches last year,
(35:48):
but he had more receiving yards and more touchdowns, so
the efficiency is off the charts right. He averaged almost
seventeen yards per catch'ts and scored on one in eight receptions. Wow.
If they can get him back closer to ninety catches
at that rate, you're looking at fifteen hundred yards and
twelve touchdowns. That's great. Metcalf going off the board at
(36:10):
pick thirty eight, that's the beginning of the fourth JSN
is in the ninth and Lockett as a tenth round ADP.
I don't know who I choose. It probably Metcalf still
at the higher ADP, just because I don't know if
I can trust either of those guys yep to not
cannibalize each other. So that's probably where I'm going Noah
Fant by the way as the top tight end, but
(36:31):
he'll go undrafted in most formats. And it is worth
noting that Ryan Grubbs Washington Huskies offense ranked first in
major college football in passing yards. They averaged three hundred
and sixty nine passing yards per game last year.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, a quarterback and at your quarterback and number one
wide receiver both went in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Absolutely, so there's some reasons to think the passing game
can get better this season. On the running side, Pete
Carroll like to have a bellcow running back. Mike McDonald
came from Baltimore where they constantly had backs churning due
to injury, mostly, but Harbaugh did like to ride the
hot hand too. Last year in Washington, Ryan Grubbs offense
(37:12):
had a belcow back as well. Though Dylan Johnson carried
the ball two hundred and thirty three times last year,
the next closest teammate in rushing attempts was Michael Pennix
with thirty five, so almost two hundred more. That bodes
well if you're a Kenneth Walker believer, as Zach Charboney
had a big chunk of the middle of the season
where Walker was banged up and Charboney basically did nothing
(37:33):
in three consecutive fourteen plus carry games. So I imagine Walker
is the lead dog in Charbonay, just as the change
of pace third down guy. Walker has scored exactly nine
times in each of his first two seasons, and if
he stays on the field and is healthy, it's his job.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'd love to make a case because of Sharboney's draft equity,
and he didn't like to make a case for Sharbonay
breaking out here with the catches, Walker looks good. Yeah,
he's just a good back.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
He's good. He's good so you can catch the ball.
He's a good runner. There's room for the running game
him to approve here. I think it actually will a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Let's go to the Arizona Cardinals, our final team of
this show. You already mentioned earlier in the show, Hollywood
Brown gone now in Kansas City. In his place, Marvin
Harrison Junior, the fourth pick of the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah yeah, can't buy his jersey though.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, no yet, they'll work that. Aside from Trey McBride,
there's basically no competition for targets for Marvin Harrison in
this one. The other receivers are sophomore Michael Wilson, who,
by the way preview of coming attractions, he will be
one of my biggest sleepers of the year okay, and
slack eye Greg Dortsch, along with journeymans like Zay Jones
(38:43):
and Zach Pascal who do not count. Harrison will start
on day one. Could have Rookie of the Year season,
right I think currently the betting odds only of Caleb
Williams ahead of Harrison to win Rookie of the Year.
You already know Harrison is an elite prospect. Countless big
plays at AU, athletic ability, route, savvy, finishing skills, big plays.
(39:04):
Just there's so many things to like about Harrison, and
I think you're talking about me right now, very very much.
So you in the backyard with the it's a ball, Yes, yeah,
growing out. Yeah, a pookinaool level of rookie usage is possible.
Oh yeah for Marvin Harrison here due to his just
NFL readiness is so high.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Adp right now.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wide receiver ten for Marvin Harrison, there's a lot of respectimism.
That's a lot of optimism right there.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
He's just picking yep.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I can't remember another rookie going at that level of
drafts at receiver. I mean it happens a running back
all time, Yeah, not receiver. This is kind of uncharted territory.
From off the top of my head, I have not actually, yeah,
I don't analyze the data looking back, Like, I don't
think Jamar Chase or C.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
D Lamb or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Justin Jefferson, nobody liked that.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think was going that high.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
No. Trey McBride is the other big story. His breakout
last year coincided with Kyler Murray's return and helped power
a lot of teams to fantasy championships because you got
him off the waiver wire mid season. Week eight is
when he had his big breakout game. From Week eight forward,
he was a top five tight end the rest of
(40:21):
the way. He was the most targeted tight end in
the NFL from Week eight forward, Tery McBride.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
So we have a top five tight end, we have
a top five wide receiver. We got one of your
favorite sleepers. You gotta be feeling pretty good about Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know Kyler Murray is he is going to be
a value pick. I mean people are really down on him.
And I've brought this up many times in the offseason,
and I don't have the numbers memorized, but a Arizona's offense,
which was dismal almost all year, but the final five
games of the year, I believe they averaged twenty five
and a half points per game. So we saw it
(40:58):
starting to come to get other. Yeah, in Arizona at
the end of last year, Kyler Murray is gonna be
is gonna be a value for somebody. The ADP on
Trey McBride tight end three round four, Wow, that's high.
People are very optimistic it's gonna continue.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Do you feel like this year the tight ends, at
least that group of like five or six tight ends
who are at the top are going to be just
vaulted up, because after you get past that first block
of tight ends, it's just a disaster. No.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
In fact, I think this is the first time in
like five years where I feel like tight end is
pretty deep. Okay, Yeah, in my estimation, weighting on this
is because I'm never that guy like weight on tight end.
This is the year I think I'm gonna wait on
tight end.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, let's talk running gain. Oh well, By the way,
does the passing game get better? Yes, obviously, yeah, I
think clearly better with Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride now
entering his third year running game. This is fascinating. I
think the best runner on the Cardinals is rookie Trey Benson.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
You were pretty high on Benson going into the draft.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I was, but it may take him a while to
get onto the field in a meaningful way, and that
part worries me. With Benson, you get a fast player
with great vision, patience. He breaks tackles, he hits home
run plays, he's got great footwork, literally never fumbled in college.
He can catch, and he was lately used at Florida State.
(42:23):
So you're not getting somebody with the bunch of mileage
on him.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I love him.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
The problem is James Connor had the best year of
his season or career, best year of his career last
year on a terrible Arizona team. It's wild where did
that come from? He finished his Pro Football Focus's fifth
best running back. He averaged five yards per carry, highest
mark of his career. He ranked second in yards after
(42:50):
contact James Connor three point nine yards after contact. He
finished sixth in rushes of fifteen yards or more, all
this despite a run blocking line that ranked twenty sixth
by Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
He's doing it himself. He's doing it himself. He's a
DIY runner.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yep. Now Connor is twenty nine years old. Yeah, so,
I mean we're right on the cusp, but we're guys
nose dive and I think Connor will not sustain that
level of productivity.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
He's also got a big injury history too.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
He does, yeah, he does. Now, he's been lightly used.
Connor's never top two und fifteen carries a season. So
maybe the end, maybe it's not going to go on
to these drive like Gena Davis off the cliff kind.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Of Dealilman luis, Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So maybe, But I think the issue here is how
long until Trey Benson takes over. It might be mid season.
I think it might be mid season, could be beyond,
But I just I can't see James Connor posting that
kind of productivity.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Again. Sure, and it's probably closer to a timeshare than
maybe Trey Bentson taking over, But this is the most
capable backup James Connor has seen in his.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
By a million miles.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
All Right, So the ADP here Connor's ADP is running
back twenty four, Benson's thirty three. Oh, you're gonna have
to devil patience on Benson, but you can get him
three rounds later.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Thirty three is four rounds. Kind of high for a
backup running that's on the high end of the backup
that is it is. So you may have to reach
around for a guy like Trey Benson. To steal a
term from our preseason shows.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Maybe we get both. Yeah, draft them both, you can.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
U does the running game get better or worse for
Arizona in totality better because they have a better one
two punch than they've had in.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
The last time Arizona had a good one two punch
at running back Edger and James and Tim high Tower.
That's how long it's been.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I forgot for all those guys. I forgot both of
those guys cardinals.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
And they went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Oh they did?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah. Emmett Smith as a former cardinal.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Adrian Peterson is a formal cardinal. Wow, yeah, we're cardinal
Where running backs go to die.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
It is like a retirement community.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
It's the It's Sun City. It's perfect beautiful.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It only makes sense hit Sedona during the day. Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Hey how about next week, Yeah, let's do the norths.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
The North's Yeah, the Black and Blue divisions.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
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