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Which teammate would you prefer to have at their ADP? Paul Charchian, Brian Johnson and new addition Thor Nystrom guide you to the right answers, plus they help you avoid potential landmines and give you their sleepers of the week.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. Now
along with the guys from Guillotine Leagues dot com. Here's
your host, Paul Jargian.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's Fantasy Football Weekly on Paul Charchi and Guillotine Leagues
dot Com. My co host Brian Johnson, Hello, and making
his Fantasy Football Weekly debut, Thor Nystrom from Fantasy Bros. Hey, Thor, Now,
it's your first show. We haven't had a new permanent
co host on this show for about ten years. It

(00:44):
was probably Brian is the last post recurrent man hit
twenty fifteen. I believe I made okay, so we'll call
it eight nine years ago. The last guy who tried didn't.
It didn't work out, So you know, Thor, I don't
want you to feel a lout of pressure, but I
do want you to know the last guy that tried
got fired after about two shows. The pressure's on. But yeah,

(01:05):
good to be here, boys here.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's not happening with Thor. I'm confident of that.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, well we will find well, I know, let's not
take anything for granted, yet, I don't want Thor to
start coasting. We're going to go through the show with
a lot of the stuff that we like to do
in the preseason, including an item from every team's training camp.
We'll talk about which teammates would you rather have factoring
in their ADP as an example, would you rather have

(01:29):
Jamar Chase at pick three or t Higgins at pick thirty.
We'll talk through three tough questions, players who we love
but won't pay the ADP, the average draft position, and
our blacklist players players that we're just not drafting at
almost any cost. And we've all got guys that are
just we've scratched them off our boards. We'll talk about

(01:51):
who they are and why, and we'll wrap up with
our sleepers of the week. So lots of stuff to
get to over the course of these two ish hours
of the show. We begin with our zip through the
trading camps of all thirty two teams and Thorp. You
get to start us out with the Arizona Cardinals. What's
happening there?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, So, zach Ertz was activated from the pup list
on Tuesdays, clear for football activity and on track to
start week one, probably not gonna play in the preseason,
though he was on pace for eighty six catches, seven
hundred and forty five yards and eight touchdowns last year
before injuring his name in Week ten. Obviously, they got
Trey McBride there as well. But I'm gonna avoid both
those guys at their current ADPs. I think Ertz probably

(02:30):
finishes seventy to eighty targets this year. It's gonna be
third to fourth on the team in targets. But you're
wondering who's gonna play on that team in eleven person now.
Like I said, I'm gonna avoid both those guys the
current ADPs.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I think you're right about that, Brian.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Want to avoid us the whole team in any There.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Is that about Raxar, Yes, although I've heard some good
things about Clayton Tune. I think has looked up maybe
a little bit better than they expected for a fifth
round rookie. Brian Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Let's talk about the backfield again.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I mean, that's really the big news all season is
the addition of Bijon Robinson through the draft.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Here's a quote from head coach Arthur.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Smith recently, which is it's interesting, let's put it that way.
So he says, we may have the idea that we
want to get guys a certain number of carries, and
then all of a sudden, Tyler Algier gets a hot hand,
and what you're doing with him is working. Don't be rigid.
We have to win the game.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
It seems like.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
He's getting out ahead right now, people getting mad at
him for not giving b Jon Robinson the ball enough.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Which could happen.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
So again, I said it last week. I'm a little
work Bjon Robinson right now, RB three overall in redraft.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's a little rich for my blood. I don't know.
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
We're gonna see more of a you know, a rotation
or a platoon in Atlanta than most people are expecting.
But again time will tell. But interesting quote from Smith there.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And I'm somebody who has had Sakwon Barkley is my
preseason number one. Ezekiel Elliott is my preseason number one.
The reason I don't have Bijon is exactly this is
why he's not my preseason number one, because I worry
about a rotation for Atlanta that might be deeper than
people think. Let's go to the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
JK.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Dobbins returned to the team on Monday. He'd been dealing
with undisclosed injuries, which I don't know. It seemed like
a contract thing to me more than an injury thing.
But he's breezed through the team's conditioning tests and is
practicing fully and coaches described him as one hundred percent
health And JK. Dobbins, I think time away from the
team has dropped his average draft position a bit. He
might be a value at this stage. All right, Thor,

(04:25):
let's go to the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
So, Damian Harris returned to practice on Wednesday after he
missed the preseason opener against the Colts. Latavius Murray got
extended to run against the Colts and he played well.
Damian Harris, He's gonna see his first snaps in the
next exhibition game against the Steelers on Saturday. You're wondering
if Latavius could potentially hop Harris in the hierarchy and
grab some early downwork and goal line looks this coming season.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's the thing to watch. Ford there. Let's go to
the Carolina Panthers. What's happening in training camp?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
They were on hard knocks. Yeah, that was working. We're
on hard on.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Adam Feelin dropping the f bombs and by that I
mean frickins. It was very cute.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah, and he gave Zach Wilson a heartwarming pep talk
as well. I think you just wanted to get on
camera with that one, but we'll see. But in terms
of fantasy again, totally overhauled their offense, essentially new starters
across the board, starting with Bryce Young. The number one
overall pick and word out of camp is at Hayden
Hurst and the aforementioned Adam Feelen have been the primary

(05:29):
targets for Young so far through camp, So those are
the two guys I'm targeting. It's interesting in terms of
the wide receivers right now, Jonathan Mingo wide receiver sixty seven,
Feeling sixty eight, Right, Chark sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
How about that? And we know you're a feeling guy
guy out of that group, I think he's got another
good season left in him and at what a crazy
value you can get him out right now?

Speaker 5 (05:52):
And speaking of value, Hayden Hurst, who I just mentioned,
tight end twenty seven right now, that seems a little
cheap for a guy who might be a safety blanket
for a security blanket for young.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
In Chicago, Cairo Santos won the kicker job for those
that care. But I want to spend a little more
time on Roshan Johnson, who ran hard against third stringers
in the first preseason game, even got some passes his way,
which we're not was not really going into the season
thinking he'd catch a lot, but maybe well more than
we think. And it looks like Roshan Johnson cementing a
spot as the team's power back and a crowded backfield.

(06:23):
And I know thorn Iistram is a big fan there.
Let's go to the Cincinnati bengalsore.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Love Rochean Johnson. Roshan Johnson is going to win that
starting job.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Don't don't get him going on Rochan.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
We've only got Rochan. As for the Bengals, Joe Mixon
was found not guilty of aggrivate aggrivate if I can talk,
aggravated menacing charges on Thursday at the Bengals release his
statement saying the organization is pleased at this matter is
now behind everyone and we look forward to an exciting
season with Joe being an important part of the football team.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
In more wholesome news.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Six round Princeton wide receiver Andre yoshi Vas has been
opening eyes in camp. Yoshivas was one of my favorite
pet sleepers in this past draft class. He's sort of
a poor man's Christian Watson, six foot three, two hundred
pounds track Demi God.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
He was NCAA Indoor champions.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
He has a meat record in the sixty meter dash
Feldman Freeklister FCS All American.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Last year.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
He led the Bengals with fifty receiving yards and four
catches in the preseason opener against the Falcons and is
looking to close in on locking.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Up a roster spot. Give me the name again, Andre Yoshivas,
Thank you very much, Andre Yoshivas. Deep dynasty sleeper.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Thord is going to be a great addition for many reasons,
but the pronunciation help just like Scott Fish, will be
much appreciated.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Cleveland Browns. We've had three preseason looks of the Cleveland
Browns already, and here's one thing I know all right
for sure, dtr can play.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I like that kid, yeah, the quarterback. Yeah, he's an
interesting dynasty stash who's not an interesting stash in any format.
Looks to be John Kelly, who started at running back
last night and had a disastrous fumble at the goal line.
Now Jerome Ford is still the primary backup, but he's
week to week with a hamsterring injury. So well, Cleveland
signed one of the remaining veteran quarter running backs out

(08:08):
there to back up Nick Chubb. Only time will tell,
but uh Kareem Hunt is the is the the premier
guy left, so it looks like it might be lettered
Fornette though dude is completely washed. Well, I'm holding out.
I hopes for John Jerome Ford to be ready for
Week one. I think he his ADP has fallen understandably

(08:29):
since the hamstring injury, but it's not like he's out
for the year. And lastly, real quick rookie wide receiver
is Cedric Tillman turning heads right now. It's taken in
the third round as the eleventh wide receiver off the board.
Did he slide a little too far thor.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
In your opinion?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, I think so keep your eye on Tilman. He
looks good so far.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
In Dallas, guard Zach Martin ended his holdout, which is
great news for the Dallas's withering offensive line. Backup running
back to the story worth following in Dallas and Elite
Davis has looked bad, just like you did last year.
Diminutive Deuce Vaughan has had some special moment, but it's
unclear if he can. He's just big enough and sturdy
enough to be a full time compliment to Tony Pollard.
It's worth keeping your eyes open for that one. Let's

(09:08):
go to the Denver Broncos thore.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
He's won another fun rookie and we're going to talk
about another one here. Marvin Mims is going to make
his NFL debut on Saturday against the forty nine ers.
Mims missed the opener in the preseason against the Cardinals,
nursing that hamstring injury that he's had since OTA's in
mini camp. Sean Payton didn't say it Mims would be
on a pitch count this coming weekend, but he said
in general response to that question that starters could play
quote up to twenty four snaps this weekend. In other

(09:32):
Broncos snapcount news, Peyton said that Javonte Williams, who's coming
back from a torn acl will play between ten to
twelve snaps against the Cardinals. Peyton wants Williams to get
between three to four carries in that game, and would
also like him to get a target in the passing game.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Let's go to the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Scare earlier in the week for Aman Ross Saint Brown
hurt his ankle, but he should resume practicing next week,
so if there's any any little dip right now, I
would buy into that. For Sun God and James and
Williams hurt his hamstring, likely done for the preseason at
least in terms of playing any preseason games, but that
really doesn't matter much because don't forget he cannot play

(10:11):
until week seven until he's done serving his six week
suspension for gambling.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Green Bay Packers. Honestly, we don't know a lot more
about Jordan Love than we did with the start of
training camp. We know he's got the strong arms, some mobility, accuracy,
decision making vision still big question marks so far. Luke
Musgrave appears to have separated himself from fellow rookie Tucker
Craft a bit. His knee injury from last year looks
fully healed. He's running well, and I think of the two,

(10:36):
he's the guy that we're looking to draft. We're gonna
work through a couple more teams training camps. Houston Texans. Four.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, Tank Dell, it's been earning rave reviews in camp.
He was the Texans' highest graded wide receiver in the
preseason opener against the Patriots. Cording to PFF. Here was
the interesting thing. He had thirty one snaps in that game.
Twenty seven of them came on the outside. On the outside.
That yeah, for one hundred and sixty five pound rookie.

(11:03):
So yet eight targets in that game, five catches, sixty
five yards and a touchdown. His eighty three point eight
PFF grade eleventh highest in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
In pre season week one, CJ.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Stroud famously asked Houston's front office to draft Tank on
Friday of Day two this past April. Right now, Nico Collins,
Robert Woods, the corpse of Robert Woods, and Noah Brown
are all listed ahead of Tank on Houston's depth chart.
I'm here to tell everybody out there that Tank Dell
not only is starting for Houston this coming season, Tank

(11:35):
Dell is going to start for Houston on the boundary.
But that's not all, folks, He's going to be Houston's
wide receiver one this coming season.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Wow. All right, I like it laying down some big takes.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's on wax.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Indianapolis Colts Brian Anthony Richardson officially will start Week one.
I got that wrong a few months ago saying that
would not be a possibility. But it's go time for
Richardson and Jonathan Taylor still on the pup list. And
when it comes to pop here, it's not physical unable
to perform, it's pay up pal. This isn't an injury related.
He wants money.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
He's now slid into the late second, early third rounds
of a red draft league. So we shall see what
happens with Jonathan News. I still think you'll play.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You can take him as a value and then go
get his running back, his backups, his handcuffs like Dean Jackson.
You can go get them at nothing. So I mean, look,
you know that's your whole angle on drafting Jonathan Taylor
is just take the backups in case he does hold out,
which almost nobody does.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Take Van Ho I have to uh plant my flag
and the nickname for I came up with Hull the
incredible hle.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh yeah that Maple Groves Home Jacksonville Jaguars. Two main
stories here. Calvin Ridley has not looked rusty in his return,
including early preseason work and then the real story in Jacksonville.
Though my guy Tank Bigsby the star of rookie camp,
He's been equally impressive through training camp early preseason action,

(12:57):
getting praised for his rushing, receiving, and efforts in the
film room. You love it when the coaches are talking
about him being a film rat. Oh, Tank Bigsby could
be a factor as early as week one. I'm in
the tank era has begun.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
It has it has efforts in the film room.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yes, I love it.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
When do we come back? More Training Camp News, Fantasy
Football Weekly Welcome Back segment number two. Fantasy Football Weekly

(13:43):
Paul Charge and Brian Johnson and thorpe Nystrom with you.
Thor making his FFW debut. Thor is a Guillotine League
drafter and you can be too. You know how the
format works. It's special. It's unique. Eighteen teams start the
season and there's no head to head Instead, at the
end of every week, the low scoring team gets chopped.
All the players go to the waiver wire, and the

(14:04):
rest of us keep building superstar rosters to compete throughout
the rest of the year. Super strategic, very different, as
you're playing to not finish last in any given week
instead of shooting for the moon, which is typically the
strategy in standard leagues. If you ain't last, you're first.
That's right, That's all you gotta do, not finish last.
We're going through all the training camp around the NFL,

(14:28):
and we left off roughly halfway through the league. We're
picking up with the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
So Justin Ross got carted off on Tuesday on the
practice field with a laying injury, but luckily he returned
to practice the next day. He's Justin Ross's impressed throughout camp.
Had two receptions twenty nine yards in a touchdown the
preseason opener versus the Saints. Once considered a first round
prospect back at Clemson and a better NFL prospect than
t Higgins on the exact same roster, obviously, he's been

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mired with health concerns throughout his career, but luckily he's
back on the practice field hoping to win a roster
spot and another Chiefs wide receiver news. I thought this
was an interesting tidbit in Peter King's most recent column,
Patrick Mahomes at very high praise for sky Moore. Here
is a quote from Patrick Mahomes in that Peter King column. Quote,
I had all the guys down here in Texas for

(15:15):
over a month and a half for offseason group workouts.
Sky was at every single workout. I mean every single
one wanted to get extra work after every single practice.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
He has that drive to be great.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
All Right, sky Moore is the only chief I'm consistently
drafting across all my leagues. Chiefs receiver, Yeah, clarify, clarify that.
Las Vegas Raiders Brian.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
More holdout talk Josh Jacobs still holding out last year's
running back three overall fall into the middle of the
third round, So another situation to monitor. But I feel
like he will eventually play a dip. I'd probably be
buying right now.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I agreed on that they almost always show up for
the money. By week one. Los Angeles Chargers Quinton Johnson's
gotten a lot of work in training camp and in
the first preseason game led the team in targets with
six scored his first touchdown in that game. It looks
like he's getting fast tracked to start the season. It's
the team's third receiver and there's plenty of upside. We're
gonna talk more about Quinton Johnson later in this show.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
I think he led the team in drops in that
game too. We had a couple of bad ones, but
I'm not holding it against them too much.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
There's a battle royale going on for the wide receiver
at three spot right now, and it's getting interesting. So
two two at Well didn't play in the week one
of the preseason, He's probably not gonna play this weekend either.
Tyler Johnson had five catches for seventy yards in that
first game against the Chargers. But it's Pooka Nakua who's
getting all the praise out of camp. He had an
eleven yard touchdown catch in traffic between two Chargers in

(16:44):
that first game, along with three catches. Sean McVay said
this about Pooka after that game. Quote, He's a guy
that has great aggressive hands. The touchdown catch contest to
play right in that red area.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Bang bang. I'm a huge fan of him. End quote.
Miami Dolphins Brian.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Offensive tackle Tron Armstead, one of the elite OT's in
the league, suffered a scare when his ankle got rolled
up on and joined practice earlier this week, but he
should be okay for Week one. It looked pretty bad
at first, but that's good news for a Miami backfield.
It's still very messy in one that I'm one of
the top ones I'm avoiding when it comes to drafts

(17:23):
in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Ty Chandler's building upon a very good preseason last year
and looks like he's ready to push as the team's
change of pace runner and perhaps designated pass catching back
behind Alexander Madison. At a minimum, Chandler is the far
better receiver than Madison, and I think that's going to
put him on the field for a lot of third downs.
And Madison's described himself in the last week or so

(17:45):
as the team's bell cow. But some people think Chandler
will press Madison for the lead role at some point
this year.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
What about Mike Davis. They tried out Mike David. I
was like, what year is it?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, No, Mike Davis is a is a non factor here.
Let's go to Let's go to the New England Patriots.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
The Patriots signed at Ezekiel Elliott this past week. Zeke
finishes running back nineteen. Last year on the same roster
where Tony Pollard finished as running back seven, Zeke's value
came from touchdowns. Only Joe Mixon and Jamal Williams total
more carries inside the ten yard line as Zeke. Last year,
Zeke scored eight touchdowns from weeks eleven to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Obviously, Zeke needs to carve out a role.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
As New England's primary red zone back to have solid
value this coming season. He's not going to overtake vermondre Stevenson.
Get out of here with that, and Zeke he going
to be hurt from not running behind Dallas is awesome
offensive line. Now he's got to run behind the New
England's patchwork offensive line. I think this signing has more
to do with New England's opinion of Kevin Harrison Pierre

(18:48):
Strong than it does with their opinion of vermondre Stevenson.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Ramondra Stevens is awesome. Zee was awesome. He's not anymore correct.
But what he can do is what you alluded to,
and that's Dagger Stevenson at the goal line. Stevenson had
two touchdowns from inside the five last year. That's it too,
So that's the worry for me.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Saints Brian by now you should know Alvin Kamara will
miss the first three games, suspended for his altercation in
Vegas almost two years ago now, but he's out the
first three games. Rookie running back Kendre Miller sprained his
knee earlier in the week, but he returned to practice
on Thursday, so.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
We should be good to go.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
We're gonna talk more about this backfield later, but I
must mention Michael Thomas looking pretty spry in the training
camp hype videos. If he can stay healthy, just return
to like eighty percent of his prime. Yeah, I'm interested
at ADP.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Unfortunately you've given up the ghosts I have. I'm alwayshchi
he but he's gonna be injured and is injured and
we're not hearing anything from him, but he's Yeah, that's
my guy, New York Giants. It's boring, but Matt Brita
looks like the primary backup behind Saquon Barkley. Rookie Year
Gray relegated mostly to special teams here, and James Robinson
looks like a cut candidate altogether. So for those that

(20:01):
want the handcuff, Matt Brida is probably your guy, let's
go to the Jets.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, another signing here. They obviously they signed Delvin Cook
this past week. Still haven't seen Delvin on the practice field,
and we may not see him in the preseason because
he's finishing up rehab on the offseason shoulder surgery and
the delay the arrival in New York because he's as
the expected birth of a child up coming.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Here.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Brice Hall, though, I thought it was really interesting.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
When he showed up at practice, like right after Delvin
signed on the dotted line there.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Suddenly Breese Haall's healthier.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, all of a sudden, So it seems like we
have better odds that Brees Hall gonna be healthy for
the start of the season. I'm not as concerned about
Breece Hall's fantasy utility for this coming season as some
other people you know, seem to be, so like, you know,
I'm buying Breeze Hall a little bit more. I do
think Delvin Cook steals some of his touches, but I'm
a little bit more bullish on Breese than some other people.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And then some other sort of news from that.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Obviously, Delvin signing pushes Michael Carter to RB three and
it looks like it's gonna cost Bam Knight his job.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, it might. We just too Bacu. I thought he
ran well last year and he'll find stay. He'll stay
in the NFL, he will.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is he still on the button?

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Bart least?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Should you have a one last? Bam oh gone.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Gone from the button?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Ball?

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
How is it that I've got two toilets and I
don't have any bands? That's all right?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You sound like Russell Wilson. You got too many toilets.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Philadelphia Eagles, Brian.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
It's been reported that Kenneth Gainwell will have the quote
unquote featured back role for Philly. Kenny g sat out
Thursday's preseason game against Cleveland while DeAndre Swift and Rashad
Penny played. Swift started, Penny played into the second quarter.
So score one for the team. Take the cheapest guy
in the backfield for Kenneth Gainwell right now. We shall
see if that holds.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
There was a very troubling run for a shod Penny
in that game, and it was his long run of
like nine yards. He breaks through a hole right up
the middle, and then when he needed burst there was
no burst. Yeah, I mean he was slow. He could
get cut. It's it's a possibility, Kenny. I'm telling you
this was what it was. He was running through mud.

(22:07):
I'm nervous about Rashad Penny.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
They got they got to play the Giants twice the Eagles,
so you know they're not cutting Boston Scott.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh well, God. Pittsburgh Steelers Kenny Pickett has looked better
than last year, which was expected in year two in
Pittsburgh's improved offensive line is helping a bit. George Pickens
is a hopeful breakout candidate year two. He scored a
pretty touchdown last week in preseason action. I think there's
opportunity here for Pickens to Pickens to I'll ultimately do

(22:34):
better than Deontay Johnson from a fantasy standpoint, despite the
fact that they are not being drafted in that order.
Let's go to the San Francisco forty nine ers, though, Yeah,
we might see brock Purty this weekend.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Kyle Shanahan does say that Sam Darnold is going to
get the majority of the snaps against the Broncos this
this coming weekend, but brock Purty might.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
We might see an appearance from him. This past week.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
He played He had three consecutive days of practice, but
Shanahan says that he might get a SEERI. He says
he's got to talk to the trainers first, but we
might see him on the field.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Seattle Seahawks Brian Kenneth Walker returned to full practice on Thursday.
He had the groin issue Zach Sharpinay he played last week.
So all those injury concernereds gone for both the top
running backs in Seattle. I do want to mention Noah
Fans has been practicing in full. He had a knee issue.
He started camp on the pup list. I'm intrigued by

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Fan tight end thirty two right now, so he is three.
Last season, the Seahawks were third in tight end receptions,
yards and touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Where were they spreading that all out that Noah Fan
didn't do anything and they were third in all that?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Will Dislay and Kolbe Parkinson in the mix. But it
was fans first year with Seattle and he's the blue
chip prospect of the three.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So why you're not a prospect in your sixty year
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
He's not that. How long is Fans been in the league.
Thorthora would know. He loves Iowa, and he loves tight
ends just.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
As long as hot has.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So there you go, five Noah fan, keep your eye
on him.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
All right, Let's go to the tam up A Bay Buccaneers. Sadly,
Russell Gage is out for the year. I worry by
the time he comes back from this ACL injury that
it might be his window may be closed. Baker Mayfield
looks like the starter so far this season based on
training camp in early preseason action, but Trask has got
the stronger arm. Mike has more of a fantasy upside.

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I don't know Mayfield's the safer starter though. For those
of us that just want to try to make sure
we get the ball in the hands of Mike Evans
and Chris Godwin, this is still a fluid situation. Let's
wrap up Tennessee Titans into the Washington Commanders. Go to
Tennessee first thor Yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Titans got a big scare this past week when Traylon
Brooks suffered a knee injury, but Mike Rabel after the
fact said it was the best case scenario. The news
they got back on it because what they got from
the MRI was this brained LCL no structural damage. According
to Rabel's Brooks are gonna be out for a couple
of weeks, but it looks like Brooks has a shot
to be back for the opener against the Saints on

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September tenth. We'll have to see about that, but like
Verrabel said, best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
We'll wrap up with the watching Commanders, where my one
of my I don't know, five favorite sleepers, my favorite
quarterback sleeper in this entire fantasy draft, without a doubt.
Sam Howell named the starter on Friday.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
You just pretty much took care of it right there.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
But yeah, phase one, if you're an ultimate peacock off complete,
he's at least starting last week.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You may remember I called him as a top ten
fantasy quarterback.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I will never forget this, for better or for worse,
but I hope you're right.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'll tell you this. They got Arizona at home week one.
Set your DFS lineups right now. Got to Sam Howel
with some commanders, and I love the commanders in a
survivor pool. I do want to mention real quick, Logan Thomas,
one of my another deep sleeper at tight end, I
like still not practicing. They're kind of viewing it as
a precautionary measure. But if he does, if he's not

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ready for Week one, Cold Turner a guy you might
want to consider. Arizona historically awful against tight ends. So
just walk in Sam Howell and either Logan Thomas or
Cole Turner a bare minimum in your daily lineups and
you'll be good to go.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Week one already's setting Week one dfl August. Which teammate
would you rather have factoring in their ADP. We'll give
you guys like Jamar Chase versus t Higgins. Which one
would you rather draft? We'll talk through a series of
teammates who's better When we come back to Fantasy Football Weekly,

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It's Fantasy Football Weekly Paul Jarchie and Guillotine Leagues dot Com,
Brian Johnson and Thor Nystrom with you. Thor making his
f FW debut. Knees are knocking, sweat pouring out of
his out of his forehead right now. It's very it's
a very tough job. Thor. It sure is so far,
so good. Though you haven't been fired mid show, so

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that's that's a positive right there, it is, I think.
So let's dive into this next segment. Which teammate would
you rather have? Now, these are all teammates who will
play the same position, So which teammates would you rather
have at their average draft position?

Speaker 5 (27:25):
You gotta right.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You gotta bake in the ADP for this, because we
would all take Jamar Chase over T. Higgins. But it
gets a lot more interesting. Would you rather have Jamar
Chase at pick three or T Higgins at pick thirty?
Let's begin with Thor. This is a tough one.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'm gonna go with Chase though at at pick three,
he separated himself at the end of the season as
the clear, clear number one ELPHA on that team, and
so I just feel like the juice worth the squeeze
the twenty seven pick discrepancy.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm paying the premium there, Okay, Brian, Are you taking
Jamar Chase a pick three or T Higgins pick thirty? Early?
Second round?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Second round?

Speaker 5 (28:07):
In general, I'm team cheapest guy, but not in this case.
I will pay the premium for Chase. Like Thor, Despite
playing in two less games than T. Higgins last year,
Jamar Chase finished with more catches, yards, and touchdowns than Higgins,
who saw one hundred and nine targets to one hundred
and thirty four from Chase in just twelve games. By
the way, that put Chase on a full season pace

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of one hundred and ninety targets, which.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Would have been the most among wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Justin Jefferson was first with one hundred and eighty four,
I believe, And despite missing those five games, Chase had
the third most red zone targets among wide receivers, which
accounted for almost twenty eight percent of total team pass
attempts in the red zone.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
For Sincy, so I will pay the premium for Jamar.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You also get the consistency from Jamar Chase, which I
absolutely love. Get this, the percentage of his starts inside
wide receiver two territory eighty five percent. I mean is
Jamar Chase just doesn't give you dud games, which we
just we love. And I'm with you, guys. I'm taking
Jamar Chase with pick three.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
And his spike weeks are epic like at that too,
two hundred yards and three or four touchdowns like unfathomable
at times.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
All right, Brian, next one, We'll start with you Miami
wide receiver Tyreek Hill at pick seven or Jalen Wattle
at pick twenty four. Who are you taking here? You
said you tend to gravitate to the cheap guy, what
about this one?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
I know I'm gonna be a bit of a hypocrite
and go up the more expensive guy again, and I'm
taking Tyreek Hill. There's just not enough of a delta
and ADP for me to want Wattle over a hill.
Tyreek was second in receptions at yards among all wide
receivers last year, and he finished with forty four more
catches than Waddle and nearly four hundred more yards. And
thanks to your premium cheat sheets at guillotine leagues dot com, thank.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
You for just organically dropping that into game naturally to
me twelve, only twelve percent of t Tyreek Hill's games
were outside.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Of the top thirty wide receivers. Jalen Waddle was at
a forty seven percent clip outside of the top thirty
wide receivers last year.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
So it's ill for me.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Thor are you taking Tyreek Hill at pick seven or
Jalen Wattle at pick twenty four.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I promise I'm not going to go chalk on every
single one, but I also have to go Tyreek Hill
on this one when Tua was under center. Last year,
tyreek Hill led the NFL in yards per game. Tyreek
Hill was on pace for over eighteen hundred receiving yards
when Tua was under center. Tyrek Hill could absolutely lead
the NFL in receiving yards this year if to A
plays seventeen games, and in fact might be the favorite
outcome if that happens.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, you guys have really hit on all my bullet points.
I had Tyrek Hill as well. As we continue with
the teammate you'd rather have. Let's see if this we
can separate you guys. Let's go to Detroit running backs.
Jamir Gibbs going in round three, David Montgomery way down
in round seven. Who are you taking here? We begin
this time with thor I finally get to go nonschalk.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I'm going David Montgomery with a bullet David Montgomery's gonna
get the red zone touchers. He's gonna get the meat
and potatoes work. And I think this is an important point.
David Montgomery's a much better receiver than Jamal Williams was.
And so like you know, you hear the stuff about like, oh,
Jamier Gibbs are getting the work out of the slot
in CAVI and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I don't think they're they're gonna use them.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
There as much as maybe some people think, because you
obviously have you know, a Monra and different stuff like that.
But I think the times when he's out there, David
Montgomery could get work there, and he's certainly gonna David
Montgomery gonna get more work as a receiver than Jamal
Williams dead, So I think that's going to factor into
his fantasy value as well.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
All Right, Brian, which teammate would you rather have? Jamiir
Gibbs round three David Montgomery round seven?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I'm with thor I'm gonna take Montgomery later. He's
taking the role of Jamal Williams, who quite simply he
led the league in rushing touchdowns with a seventeen last year.
And Jamier Gibbs an exciting prospect, but he's a rookie,
and you don't really know what you're gonna get with rookies.
You know you're going to get consistency with David Montgomery,
you would think, and likely at least ten touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So I'm taking Monty in the seventh over Gibbs in
the third.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Clean sweep we all like. And by the way, I
love Jamiir Gibbs. I mean, this is nothing bad about
Jamier gibbson. I think his third round ADP is appropriate.
But David Montgomery, this team, the Lions team ran the
ball inside the five so well, thirty three carries for
Jamal Williams from inside the five, and they converted that.

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They converted that into fourteen touchdowns. That has left the
coaching staff knows that great offensive line is going to
power in touchdowns from inside the five. Jamiir gibbs is
not built for that. David Montgomery is. He'll be the
guy to get that work.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Just to tack onto that really quick. I believe he
was at least five or six times. I'm on Roussaint
Brown was tackled at that one. That opened up all
those opportunities. Imagine if Saint Brown, some guy scored those touchdowns,
he'd be might be wide receiver one round.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
We need to spend more time on Iman Ross Saint
Brown in various points during the preseason of the show.
All right, our next teammates Brian Tennessee wide receiver Andre
Hopkins round five or Trailing Burks in round eight. Now
Burkes got has been dinged up but is expected to
come back roughly around week one, so factor that into

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your your thoughts here. Andre DeAndre Hopkins round five trailing Burks,
Round eight.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, his ADP will slide for sure, Burks that is.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But again, yeah, thankfully he might be like ten or
eleven on this injury news.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
So I'm still I was gonna take Burkes before the injury.
I'm still taking him now. We should know he's guaranteed
to not seriously injure himself for the next few weeks,
and you can't say that for a lot of a
lot of players. So I'm leaning Burkes. Thankfully again he
avoided the major injury. But really not a passing offense
to be too excited about. Tennessee bottom six in passing

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play percentage last year.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So I'm definitely taking the cheaper and younger guy despite
the recent injury.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
All Right, four, which teammate are you taking?

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
If Andray Hopkins round five trailing Burks, round eight or more.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
If we're getting round ten or round eleven, you're playing
with new rules here, Johnson. But if I'm getting the
round ten or eleven, I'm going Berks for sure, especially
if I know that he's gonna play let's say, fifteen
sixteen games, if we're guaranteed that. I disagree with analysts
out there that thought did that DeAndre Hopkins signing kills
or neutered Brooks's fantasy value. I actually think it opens

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him up for the game that we thought that he
had for that to flour out. He has this like
Swiss army game where you move him around the formation
and then you manufacture touches for him. I don't think
Traylon Brooks is a wide receiver one the NFL. I
think he's a dang good wide receiver too. DeAndre Hopkins
being there for him now opposing teams can't put.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Their cornerback one on Traylon Brooks.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Now you can manufacture touch it for him, move him
around the formation, and now you have a better offense
for him to play him.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
I am currently on the clock in a DraftKings Best
Ball League at pick one seventeen, and Burks is available
with an ADP of ninety eight right now, so he's
almost fallow two rounds. Yeah, the ADP right now for sure,
and I think I'm going to take him.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I'm on high Hopkins, and I'll explain more why later
in this show. Let's stick with our teammates and who
we prefer Buffalo tight ends. You didn't think I was
gonna work in a tight end one, did you? But
I went out of my way to find a tight
end comparison that we could talk about. Dalton Kincaid rookie
going off the board round eleven or Dawson Knox effectively

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free round sixteen, or we begin with you.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
This is the easiest one on the whole list for me,
This Dalton Kinkaid, super duper easy. Duwston Knox is only
good for one season now is just because of touchdowns.
I love Dalton kin k. Dalton KK gonna be a
stud from day one. Dalton KK gonna be the Buffalo
Bills wide receiver two from day one. He's only tight
end by the designation. He going to be a big
slot and you're gonna play boundary receiver from day one.

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Like I said, I would rank Dalton Kinkaid in the
tight ends for this coming season, either like tight end
seven or eight. He's criminally underrated by the fantasy community,
not for long.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Once he takes the field. Dalton KK with a bullet.
Let's see if we have a consensus here, Buffalo tight
ends Dalton Kincaid round eleven or Dawson Knox round sixteen.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Brian Thora and I are in an agreement where Kincaid
gonna play wide receiver essentially. But I'm a little I
won't say concern, but round eleven seems expensive for a
rookie wide receiver. Give me Knox because Kinkaid is not
going to threaten Knox's snap count whatsoever or his role
in the sixteenth round.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Like you said, Charchie's free.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
There's a lot of competition in Buffalo at the wide
receiver position. Khalil Shakira is emerging, Andy Isabella and I'm
just kidding there, but I don't know I'm going cheap
with with Knox.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I don't think Dalton Kincaid is going.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
To have a rookie or historic rookie tight end season
like Kyle Pitts did when he topped one thousand yards
in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
We like to use this stat a lot, and I
don't have it memorized, so I'm just just gonna be
close last fifteen. Maybe it's twenty years now. Round one
tight ends average season, thirty catches, three hundred yards, two touchdowns.
Round one tight ends, it is very, very tough even
and many of those have gone on to elite phenomenal careers.

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Tight End is the toughest position to get to rest
fantasy value from in year one. Folks, take the over.
I think it's gonna go over thirty going over.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I agree there, All right.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Let's continue on with teammates we've been with. I think
this is a Brian time Buffalo running backs. James Cook
is round six, Damian Harris round twelve. Who you taken?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I've been on team Harris all off season, but I'm
gonna waffle here and say Cook. Harris has missed significant
time in two of the last three years, has already
been dealing with a knee issue in camp. He has
been back at practice recently. But I'm gonna shoot for
the moon in James Cook. If he does secure like
a Bell Coow type role for this Bill's offense, getting
him in round six, that's an insane steel. I still

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like Harris, but the upside for Cook is just too
much for me to ignore right now.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna wean Cook over Harrison.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Which teammate running backs for Buffalo. Would you rather have
James Cook in round six? Damien Harris?

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Round twelve, Well, Brian went one for two on his
bills take, so I like that. James Cook is a stud.
This one's easy as well. James Cook easy, Damien Harris.
I don't even know if he's gonna win the running
back to one there. He's still fener and off with
the tay Avs. James Cook is a good value in
round six.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
That one's easy.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Now we're gonna get scolded right now, Thoris. You'll learn
this soon enough.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Well, look, I like James Cook from a PPR standpoint,
and I think he's gonna he could be sitting on
a forty catch season, which would help him a lot,
maybe even more. Who knows about that, Damien Harrison. Dang
could runner that guy. He's a power runner and he's
going to get the touchdowns. And I worry about James
Cook sitting on a five touchdown season, which is very
in fact, it's not even so. It's probably likely he's

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got to break his touchdowns from outside and he's got
to try to catch touchdowns. That's the part that worries
me about Cook and why I'd rather have Harrison round twelve.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
You just love running backs named Damien, regardless of spelling.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
So long as as the Damien it's your guys. Nobody's
as good as Damian Pierce. Oh, all right, let's continue
on Green Bay running backs. Aaron Jones costs you a
fourth rounder. AJ Dillon costs you an a rounder. Thor
I'm going with Aaron Jones in this one.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
He hasn't shown any falloff inefficiency, but AJ Dillon has
AJ Jones breaking less tackles nowadays. I think Aaron Jones
bounces back in the touchdown department. That's where he fell
off last year. The value is going to come back.
Once it does, We're going Aaron Jones.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay, Bryant, which green Bay running back? Do you like
Aaron Jones or AJ Dillon?

Speaker 5 (39:42):
You want to talk about falling off in the touchdown department?
Touchdowns inside the ten yard line last year five for
AJ Dillon, zero ro for Aaron Jones, and I love only.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Two carries for Aaron Jones all year.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
I love both, along with the entire Packer offense. I
think they're very undervalued, but Jones a ton of upside.
But I'm gonna take Dylan here in the later rounds.
He's also in a contract year. They might give him
the old run him into the ground treatment. So I'm
gonna lean Dylan and disagree with Thorp. Still love you Thorp.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Same rash at al for me on AJ Dillon. All right, Brian,
your next up Saints running backs? She got three options here.
Do you want Alvin Kamara round five, Jamal Williams round eight,
or ken rookie Kendre Miller round thirteen.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
You're tempted to go Williams because he had seventeen rushing
touchdowns last year, but again that was on an entirely
different team, entirely different offense. Better offense, better offense. For sure,
Kamara're gonna miss the first three games. That hurts you'dlate
to get out to a hot start in fantasy. He's
not going to help you in that department. So I'm
going to go with the cheapest option in Miller, who

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should play like the Kamara role for the first three
games and who knows he might just outright steal that
job when Kamara is ready to come back. And the
thing that's scared about Williams again not he's not on
the Lions anymore. It's Taysom Hill just lurking in the
red zone just to steal those goal line touchdowns. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot the moon here and go

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Kendre Miller, who's going pretty late in round thirteen?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
All right, thor which of the Saints running backs would
you rather have? I'm gonna go, hang on, I'll just
set it up again, Alvin Kamara round five, Jamal Williams
round eight, or Kendrey Miller round thirteen. I'm gonna go
with Elvin Kamara here. I think you get.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Him at a discount just because the suspension for the
first three games.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
People aren't baking in that.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Alvin Kamara last year was RB thirteen and fantasy points
per game and RB seven and expected Fantasy points per game.
I'm going Alvin Kamara at the discount with the round
five price tag.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
All right, let's sneak in one more bonus teammates right here.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Well, who are you taking charge?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Oh? I am taking Kendre Miller because I think Jamal
Williams only I my fate rets on whether or not
he gets the binary touchdown yes or no, So if
he doesn't score I'm looking at like a two point game,
and I don't like that. Out of my runners, Alvin
Kamara might be pseudo washed. I'm nervous about him, so
I'm just I'm taking the cheapest guy. I'm taking Kendre Miller.

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I don't think he's a special talent, but I don't
want to invest a round five or round eight into
guys I don't believe in. So that's my take. All right,
let's go to Seattle. I think this is a really
really tricky spot. Are we taking Kenneth Walker or Zach
Sharbonay and Thornim? To start with you, and I know
you're very rote on both of these guys. You do
a ton of college prep on these guys. I love

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what I saw at as Zach Sharbonay, but this was
a bad landing spot. Which of the two are you taking?
What wrong we got? I don't know. I'm looking it
up right now.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Okay, Well I go, I go Sharboney, depending on the rounds.
But I'm a big fan of Zach Scharbeney. I actually
ranked Zach Sharboney two spots higher on my overall board
then I did Jamiir Gibbs and a part of that
is just because you can give him the ball so much,
which is why it broke my heart that he got
taken by Seattle, because they obviously had the guy that
could get the.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Early down work in Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Very curious to see how that ends up shaking out,
but I know that that charbonate they're going to give
him the ball a lot in the passing game because
that's what he can do. Kenneth Walker, he can't handle
any of that stuff. Yeah, obviously prioritize that Walker is
like a fourth round pick. Charbon e eighth or nine, then.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Definitely Charbon is round Well, he's picked one hundred and
twelve overall, and if I'm doing the math correc that's
about round nine. So yeah, Charbon is a great talent. Yeah,
I like I like sharbona here. Walker was really really inefficient.
They didn't give him any carries inside the five last year.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Yeah, and you can't play Walker out third down, you
can't play him on passing downs, and Charboney was super
underrated as a passing down back, Like he's a really
good receiver.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think I think Charbon is the way to go here,
and it's you know, Walker is a good talent. We
like him, yeah, but Sharbone feels like he's going to
be the Fantasy point guy. Agreed, especially in PPR when
we come back. Three tough questions play along see if
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our number two Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul Charchie and Guillotine
at leagues dot com. Brian Johnson and thorneistroom with you
fantasy pros. This is a game we call three tough questions.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Tough question Number one, you want to play along.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
See if you can go three and oh. Let's assume
you're in multiple leagues, maybe a lot of leagues. Do
you distribute your selections your draft selections among differing players
or do you double triple, quadruple down on your favorite
players in all your leagues? Explain this properly, I hope.
So do you try to distribute your your rosters across

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a lot of different players or do you concentrate your
roster on your favorite players. We begin with Thorpe and Eistrom.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
So for me, I'm a slave to my value board
for better or worse. So I'm not going to take
a value dive to cross pawin it. I don't care,
all right.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
So that is a I'm you which side of this
you're on? You're on the condensed? Yeah, like all your
eggs in one back.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, like the guys that I'm higher on than consensus,
I'll end up with a whole bunch of those guys
on my different teams.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I'm sticking to my board no matter what.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
I don't mind if I have a ton of shares
of one dude at the end of the day, that's cool,
all right, Brian.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Are you distributing your selections widely among differing players or
are you double tripling, quadrupling down on your favorites in
your leagues?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Well, I'm nearing five hundred Best ball drafts.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Different you gotta diversify your portfolio when it comes to
Best Ball. I'm not talking about that, but like in
my my home leagues, I'm not in as many as
I used to be. Yeah, I'll go get my guys basically,
So I'll be drafting Gerald Everett in all of my
home leagues as you're coming.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I love Gerald Everett.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
This was a tough one because my my fundamental, biggest
motto in the preseason is go get your guys. Don't
care about ADP. Just go get your guys. Just because
he's supposed to go a half round later. Don't care.
Go get your guys. But if you're in four leagues
and you put my beloved Damian Pierce on all four,
all four teams, it's not your fault. If he goes

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down in Week two with an ACL. You didn't do
anything wrong. You may have read it exactly right given
what you know right now, there's no reason to lose
four leagues on one ACL, and that can happen with
an early round pick. So I think you do have
to do a fair amount of distribution, and there should
be a lot of players you like. There's tons of
great players out there, and there's too much hubrius around.

(46:54):
I gotta have, you know, my one guy, you know
you're probably go get figure out who you're guys are.
There should be I don't know, like twenty you really
want to have on rosters, Spread it out, spread out
the guys you love so that your season doesn't end
across all of your leagues because one guy or maybe
two guys that you have on too many leagues all

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get injured at the same time. Or by the way,
it's not even always injury. Sometimes it is the quarterback
goes down and then the whole rest of the offense
isn't even functional and you still read the tea leaves right,
but you couldn't have known the injury was coming.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Tough question number two.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
In Dynasty or Empire redrafts, which tight end? Which rookie
tight end are you taking? After Sam Laporta and Dalton
Kincaid go off the board, then which tight end are
you investing in for your Dynasty or Empire draft? We
begin with Brian.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
I wouldn't have expected to be saying this a month, two,
three months ago, because I didn't really know who he was.
Thorn knows all the rookies are. I just want to
go second for these next two and to say, yeah,
I agree whatever, Yeah, I'm gonna go with Luke Musgrave,
who drafted in the second round. He's been clocked as
the fastest player at Packers' training camp, which.

Speaker 7 (48:11):
Is he's not faster than Christian Watson, he is he is,
they'd say he is there radar Gun Musgrave winner running
routes as a wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
In the last preseason game. They're giving him Jets sweeps
in the red zone.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
In practice.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
They're gonna utilize this kid all over the field.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
And he's the fastest player on the Packers.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
No, he's not.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Da Dave sinnecon told me this, and no one knows
what about the Packers, And Dave sine can back me up,
Dave Thor.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
In Dynasty and Empire redrafts, which tight end rookie Titan
are you taking after Sam Laporta and Dalton kin cad
are off the board.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I'm taking Michael Mayer. He would be in like Tier
two of his own for me. Like the problem with
Michael Mayor is he's not explosive, but he's an efficiency monster.
He beat his hands are pretty good, he's very good
in the intermediate area, and he breaks a whole bunch
of tackles. So I'm not a believer in Musgrave. I
don't care about the camp stuff. He doesn't break tackles,

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he's not agile, he can't stay on the field. He
only had thirteen starts in college. He couldn't get on
the field earlier in his career. Then last year was
supposed to be the breakout season. He gets injured right away.
He's been dinged up throughout the five years that he'd
been on campus, only had forty seven catches in college.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
He obviously had.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
A really good testing profile and his uncle's bill with
Bill Muskrave, which is why he ended up getting drafted
higher with a multi sport athlete and the testing profile good.
Like I said, but yeah, I'm out on him just
because of the historical president of guys that didn't play
much a different stuff like that, you know, shooting the
moon on that Musgrave.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
It feels like Musgrave is going to need that traditional
tight end like three years to ramp up because he
wasn't productive in college. You know who was Michael Mayer
was correct over eight hundred receiving yards and back to
back seasons at Notre Dame. Have to a potentially very
good starting quarterback next year when the Raiders are picking
like third in the draft, they're gonna set up their

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quarterback in the future next season and that guy's gonna
be working with Michael Mayor for the rest of his career.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
And this coming year he's got the path to the
starting Like I think you're going to start this year,
and you have Jimmy Garoppolo that can't throw the ball
beyond twenty yards, Well, Michael Mayer sets up in the
last year at Notre Dame, they had this noodle armed kid,
Drew Pine. All they did every single play was just
forced the ball to Michael Maher and Michael Mayer bet
double teamed every single time, and then Michael Mayer would
just catch the ball and then he fight off all

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these different guys that were you know, honed in on
him or whatever. That's what's going to happen to the Raiders.
They're just going to force the ball to Michael Bhayer.
Then you're gonna break tackles.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
As Matt Harrison described on this show last week, there's
and I'm listening to this, there's a real scenario where
DeVonta Adams is not on this team at the trade deadline.
He's not a Raider, He's somewhere else. That would move
Mayor up the pecking order as well.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Matt Harrison three, mattis NOW'SFO But I think it's legitimate
to wonder if DeVante Adams are going.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
To be the tough question number three once.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Again in Dynasty and Empire redrafts. Which rookie wide receiver
are you taking after Jackson Smith and the Jigba is
off the board and Jordan Addison's off the board, then
where are you going? We begin with thor.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Well Quentin Johnson, and I'll put Quinton Johnson above Jordan
Addison too. Quintin Johnson was my wide receiver one in
this past class above both these guys. You would have
to put Smith and Jigba above him for fantasy. But
I love Quinton Johnson. And in the offense, you know,
obviously they have the new offensive coordinator, the fella they
brought over from the Cowboys. He loves using guys like this.

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Quentin Johnson was super underrated during the draft process. He's
a stud athlete eighty seven percentile. He's a forty point
five inch vertical. He has a six to eight wingspan,
could get up in the air and go down and
get it six to three home run hitter. I really
like his game, and he can do all the different
gadget stuff like people didn't give him the credit for that.
You can do Brandon Ayuk stuff with him. Deebo Samuel stuff,

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bringing him in the backfield, you know, giving him stuff
like that. They're gonna use him like that, so like
you know, and you can play him out of the
slot too, so he's gonna get a bunch of usage.
You're obviously gonna be starting from day one. So I'm
a big fan of his game. You can get the
targets from for immediately. So I'm going QJ here, all.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Right, Quintin Johnson is your answer, Brian in Dynasty and
Empire Redrafts, Which rookie wide receiver are you taking after
Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jordan Addison are off the board.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
It's QJ for all the things Thor said the offensive
coordinator Kellen Moore, and every show I'm on the season,
I'm going to make fun of the Cowboys for letting
Kellen Moore walk essentially because he scored too many touchdowns
too quickly. You gotta love everyone on this Chargers offense
and Keenan Allen getting older, Mike Williams banged up throughout
his career, Quintin Johnson could find himself as the wide

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receiver one for that team as early as this season.
It's not gonna be Week one, but it could be
some midpoint of the season, you know, two thirds into
the season. He's got he got a bright future, even
though he had some pretty bad drops in the last
preseason game.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I gave some thought to Zay Flowers here, who has
the advantage of all that proven production in college, and
he's already probably the best receiver on his team right
now this year, but he's so much smaller, and he's
going to play mostly the slot, where it's really hard
to get fantasy points out of small receivers and guys
who play the slot. Not impossible, but it's harder. And
when you look at the fantas, the profile of consistently

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productive fantasy wide receivers, by and large, they are bigger, bodied,
body control receivers AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. And
that profile just fits Quinton Johnson better. The speed, the size,
the athleticism to catch radius. He's just got more upside
than Zay Flowers has got. I think for the Jay

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Flowers sitting on a nice game, a nice season, a
nice career, but he feels like six catches, sixty five yards,
no touchdowns, a lot of games. Quintin Johnson's got way
more upside. And that is the correct answer to the
third tough question.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Back to Luke Musgrave real quick.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Yeah, the floor Musgrave the fastest player at Pink Packers
camp in terms of miles per hour. Thora you're at
the Senior Bowl, right, I was clocked at over twenty
miles per hour at six six two fifty five.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Luke Musgrave, Yeah, it was in.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Front of change that answer.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Charge, Well, he was. He was the only the Zebra
system what you're talking about. He was the only tight
end it's ever gotten over twenty in the Zebra system
at the Senior ball. I was just impressed though that
he could stay on the field for the whole Senior
boss out there.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I gave him the golf clap.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
We're gonna we're gonna remembering this one.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
For Yes, Luke Musgrave is gonna be the player that
divides us.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I think the best bar. I don't know much about
Michael Meyer.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
I watch him a few times at an Order Dame,
but whenever he caught the ball they would play the
Halloween song.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
But then then then then that was awesome. They better
do that in Vegas for him for his twenty catches.
Will have this year.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Probably would we come back players who we love but
we hate their ADP. So these are all players that
we like. We would take them on our team, but
so does everybody else likes them too, and they're too expensive.
So players we like, but we're not going to draft.
Coming up next Fantasy Football Weekly. Also, if you want

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Paul Jarge and Brian Johnson Thorne Eistrom with you. There's
a segment we call love the player, hate the We'll
give you a quarterback, a running back, a wide receiver,
and a tight end that we we like these players.
We think these are good players, but we're not willing
to pay the price for each of these guys. We
begin with thor who is your love the player, hate

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the ADP?

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Quarterback? I'm gonna say you used to love the player,
hate the ADP. Deshaun Watson. A recent report from Zach
Jackson of The Athletic stated, anything that involves Deshaun Watson
remaining in the pocket has been an adventure during camp,
and not since early in camp have we seen a
string of consecutive completions in any eleven eleven period. Jackson
went on to say Watson's accuracy beyond ten yards in

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camp has been extremely iffy. Uh oh, DeShawn Wattson? Has
it been good since twenty twenty? It has been wild?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
This is just a player. You don't like this, you
know the we want players you do like. I liked
him at Clemson Draft. I liked them at CLEBS. I
want players you like now he's well.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Draft Deshaun Watson in the ADP is eighty second. That's
that we're fading hard at ADP. Brian, tell me the
quarterback you love, but the ADP you hate?

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Well, I don't know if you.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
I guess can you love a player that has no
sample size in the NFL?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
But yeah, sure?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Do you just project to somebody that it's Anthony Richardson
who could break fantasy football? And he looks like he's
gonna be a ton of fun. But at QB eleven
pick one hundred overall, even though he's gonna be the
Week one starter now, which I didn't think he would
be a month or two ago, or even like five
days ago. I thought they would least roll out Gardner Minshew.
I'm still very wary of Richardson at this ADP of

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QB eleven overall. I get his ceiling is a mile high,
but will he come close to it as a rookie.
I don't want to pay that price tag to find
out the hard way that he doesn't. So I'm out
on Richardson at this ADP in a vacuum.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
As a mobile quarterback that I don't have to pay
for pay a high price tag for Sam Howell.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
There you go, right top ten quarterback, right.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
About top ten. We'll find out I can't set out
earlier Peacock that I can't peacock it yet. It's we're
not even one yet. I am not in Peacock territory
with my Sam Howell prediction yet. The player I love,
the quarterback I love but hate the ADP is Joe Burrow.
I means, obviously a great quarterback and you could be
the MVP of the league. And I wouldn't be surprised,
but I hate his landing spot, which is the end

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of round three, because here's where I'm at. I can
get all these great mobile quarterbacks who can also pass,
or I can get Patrick Mahomes early. I want to
take that next tier, which for me is Joe Burrow
and Trevor Lawrence. I got to pay end of round three,
but end of round three to me, I can get
other players who I'm really really high on. I can
get Chris Olave, I can get Devonte Smith, I can

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get Jaylen Wattle, I can get t Higgins, I can
get DK metcalf As just the receivers. There's so many
great players there. I can't take a non mobile quarterback
as high as round three. So as much as I
love Joe Burrow and would be happy to have him
on my team, end of round three for a quarterback
who's not gonna run in touchdowns, can't do it. It's

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just too high. I can find other passing quarterbacks. Let's
go to the running back position, or give me a
running back you love but don't want the ADP. I'm
gonna play by the rules this time, thank you very much.
Exs up. I'm gonna get that.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
I'm gonna give you too this time, both top forty
ADPs Travis Etn and Kenneth Walker, And I think you're
gonna agree with me on both of these. The So
with et And he's thirtieth, and ADP with Walker he's
thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Those ADPs, they assume that.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Both those guys are going to be undisputed starters and
they're gonna get like the whole market share whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
But I don't think they are right. Like with Etn,
they bring in Tank, our boy charge.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Tank takes me baby, exactly, and then with with Walker, it's, uh.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
It takes a little bit loud. I gotta think twice
about playing the tank sounder.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Yeah, it's it's charbonnet right, And I think both those
rookies are going to be cutting into the workloads of
both their guys. So I think those ADPs are both inflated.
All right, Brian, who's the running back you love but
hate the ADP?

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
It's Derrick Henry And who doesn't love King Henry?

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
A running back unlike any we've seen basically running back,
But right now RB seven twenty first pick overall, so
that's the late second he's twenty nine years old and
two hundred and twenty six days on top of those
twenty nine years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yes, you start counting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
The days with running backs in their late twenties. I
don't think there's a lot of tread left on King
Henry's tires. I could be wrong, but I'm just going
to mitigate all risk here because that cliff, unfortunately is
going to come soon for Henry. And also really like
ty J Spears rookie running back. It was arguably the
best backup running back the Titans have had in Derrick

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Henry's tenure, well in Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Since Derrick Henry was the backup?

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Did he? Who is he playing behind somebody for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Two years trying?

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Yeah, they didn't give him a ton of run as
first two years, which if they did, his career probably
would be over right now. But yeah, I'm just remembering
that one picture where it was him and then the
other guy and he was like twice a bit, and
I remember, I'll look it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Up while you go charge.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
His high school footage is so fun, man, if you
haven't looked up Derrick Henry in high school, and just
because he's built not dissimilarly to how he's built now,
and he got all of these high schoolers just bouncing
off of him. It was absurd. It was fulklore. It
really was. How many yard do you remember like his
high school yardage numbers? Because they were sick ridiculous. They're

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playing like eight games.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
How would you tackle? How would you just get out
of the way? Oh for sure, freight train.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
You know what I would do if he were I'm playing,
I'm playing strong safety at height at the high school level,
and here comes Derrick Henry. I would just soil him
right there. I would even move. I just wet myself
right down the spot. I would take a quote unquote
bad angle. I like that sound to that. Aaron Jones
is the player I love but hate his ADP. He's

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running back sixteen going off the board in round four.
Aaron Jones is a very good player, and if for
up to me, he'd be the workhorse on some other team.
But he just he just isn't going to be that.
We know AJ Dylan is there and AJ Dillon gets
a lot of work. Last year, do you guys know
what the timeshare split in terms of snap count between
Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon? It was just fifty four

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forty six. That's it, fifty four to forty six. I
mean it is almost dead even between these guys. To me,
that's lethal at round four for Aaron Jones and he
doesn't get goal line carries. Just two rushing touchdowns all
of last year for Aaron Jones. It's to me, that's
just too high of a price to pay for somebody
who's given up half of the half of the yardage,

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half of the workload.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Brian, it was Dion Lewis. Listeners can't see if there's
a victory. If it looks like Derek, it's like it's
like bring your son to work day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
It does look just like that. Now, answer this from me.
You might have to do a little bit of digging
and maybe you can do it. Maybe I don't know
if you can do it in segment or not. But
who is he playing behind for those first couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Yeah, I'll get to that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I don't know. I can't remember, and it's bothering me.
Let's go to the wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Love, but the ADP that you hate thor Deebo Samuel.
For me, I love Deebo as a player, but people
so his ADP is fortieth overall, people are taking him
like he's a high end wide receiver too. He didn't
produce like that. After the forty nine Ers acquired Christian McCaffrey,
the it dropped his aid dot. They stopped using him

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on the gadget stuff and different stuff like that. They
also stopped using him in the red zone as much.
So now, Deebo, he's basically like this hollow PPR wide
receiver on a run first team. The ADP is super
duper inflated. Obviously, they still got McCaffrey, so I'm out
on him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yeap, Deebo. Samuel Bryant, who is the wide receiver you
love but the ADP you hate?

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Well, twenty sixteen we should have known this. It was
DeMarco Murray.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Seventeen it might have been the same story. But all right,
let me let me go back to my my actual
note too, wide receiver. Who did you say thor? I
was even paying to Deebok. I'm staying in the same division,
but a different team. I got DK metcalf. He got
to look DK. He's a beast and I saw him.
He had a monster game against the forty nine ers
in the playoffs ten catches, one hundred and thirty six yards,
two touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
We watched that game together, thor At Kipps. That's shoutout,
shout out kIPS. Yeah, we were on a date.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
But wide receiver sixteen pick twenty nine overall for DK
just too much competition now with the addition of Jackson
Smith and Jigba Tyler Lockett still there. Of course, gotta
love DK, but I don't think he's going to get
the target share.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
To pay off that ADP.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, interesting that. You know, we don't coordinate this stuff
ahead of time, and so if we both fall into
the same player, I think that's pretty telling. And I
also had Deebo Samuel the round four ADP. You know,
we love that he's a highlight machine. We love that
he because he's so special after the catch. But his
average depth of target, which you alluded to four point
three yards, that's nothing. It's the worst in the NFL

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by among all wide receivers. And his share of the
team's air yards eleven percent. To give you a sense
of how bad that share of air yards is. The
guys that are sitting at like forty percent. That's fantasy
goal that's DeVante Adams, that's DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill,

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Justin Jefferson. Those guys are forty percent. When your air
yards is sitting at eleven percent. It's just too hard.
And that's what Deebo Samuels too many mouse defeat. Now, well,
there's that too, right. And you know when you're throwing
short passes all the time at our near the line
of scrimmage, you can only be so special to turn
that into fantasy production for sure. All right, let's go
to the tight end you love, but the ADP you

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hate thor.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I'm gonna go with Dalton Schultz on this one. So
the last three years when he was with the Cowboys,
he averaged sixty six, six hundred and sixty six and
six receiving line each season. So he goes to Houston.
Now he's not an elite athlete. Camp reports say that
c J. Stroud has been targeting his wide receivers a
bunch of like Tank Tallis, specifically even Xavier Hutchinson, the

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seventh rounder. Well, this is what c J. Scroud did
throughout his career at Ohio State. He worked with a
couple of NFL tight ends. The last couple of years.
Kate Stiver, he not there yet, but Kate's over last
year thirty six four US six five year before, Jeremy
Rutgert only at twenty six catch as he didn't target
the tight ends so much. And mister Dalton Schultz is

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not a great athlete and he's not like a super
skilled guy. I don't think Dalton like he's tight end
twelve in the ADP. He ain't gonna finish even close
to that. Fade Dalton Schultz.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Okay, Brian, the tight end you love, the ADP you hate.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Back to the plethora of mouths to feed in San Francisco.
I've got George Kittle right now, tight end four sixty
third overall, hasn't played a full season since twenty eighteen.
He did score eleven touchdowns last year. He had seven
in the final four games.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
It was all at the end, at which point you're
probably out of the playoffs yet George kittleks he only
had four touchdowns before the middle of December.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Right and his non spike weeks, and they are a
fair amount of him. They were brutal. So I'm out
on Kittle at this price.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
You gotta love him as a tight end, just an
overall football player, a ton of fun. He's a manimal
but tight end four, No thanks. There are plenty of
sleepert tight end kennet candidates I love out there, Gerald
Everett being one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
J I also had George Kittle. So we've doubled up
again here, and for many of the same reasons. Too
many dud games. Get this. Half of George Kittle's games
last year he failed to top twenty nine yards in
half his games. In eleven of his fifteen games he
did not top four catches. Too many dud games from
George Kittle. Plus, as you mentioned, he misses time every year,

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and even when he's not missing time, questionable, questionable, questionable. God,
I hate rolling into Sundays wondering whether or not my
tight end's going to play because I don't got two
good tight ends on my roster in all probability. Yeah,
so that's it. George Kittle my choice here as well
for the player that I love, but the ADP I

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won't pay when we come back. Final segment of the show.
Already here, man, these are blacklist players. These are players
we don't love, and we're.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Not paying the ADP.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Or maybe even not any ADP maybe guys that we
wouldn't draft under any real your realistic scenario. Are blacklist
players coming up as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
We're gonna paddle four too on air right your.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Initiation, Yeah, spanking Machine four. We'll also give you our
sleepers of the week when we return for the final
segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. Final segment Fantasy Football Weekly,

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Paul Charchie and Brian Johnson Thorne Eystrom with you can
get all my cheat sheets available at Guillotine leagues dot com.
We encourage you to check that out as well as
joining a Gullotine league while you're there. Been hearing me
talk about it for four seasons now. It is the fun,
freshest way to play fantasy football season long fantasy football,
for sure. This segment is similar to the last segment,

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but different. We call it the Blacklist Players. The last
segment was players we like. We just don't want to
pay the ADP on players who we generally like these are,
and we would.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Draft those players if they slip past.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Them, that's right, exactly. But these guys or guys who
are just basically out on and they would have to fall,
you know, way way on ADP before you'd even consider
these guys. So these are players that are way off radar.
We begin at the quarterback position and thorn eistrom.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
I'm going Aaron Rodgers here. Oh boy, is there a
lot of Russell Wilson parallels for me? Hard knock country.
Let's ride the pr campaign going on for him every
week on HBO.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, it's getting a little much for thor. I would say, Rogers,
do you just refer to yourself in the third person?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
I figured i'd get that out of the way on
the first show. Thank you, Rogers.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Stunt lash year is the world's biggest fork sticking out
of his back right now. I think he's done. I
don't know what people you know are seeing with him
right now. I think this is going to end a disaster.
I don't want any part of Aaron Rodgers QB fifteen
get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
So your take is basically, you want to get out
a year early than a year late. Yeah, and last
year might have been the year to get out. He
already done in my opinion. Yeah, I think that trade
was a big mistake for the Jets, not Russell Wilson.
Big can't be that big.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Right, Wow, yeah, Well, how many toilets does Aaron Rodgers
have in his house?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
I mean, how can I properly evaluate his opportunities until
I know how many toilets Aaron Rodgers has got? All right, Brian,
give me your blacklist quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
This guy's not super expensive in terms of ADP, but
I have no interest in drafting him, just totally avoiding
him at all costs. And it's now a New Orleans Saint.
Derek Carr quarterback nineteen. I'm intrigued by the weapons in
New Orleans. Crystal Lave budding superstar. Of course, if Mike
Michael Thomas can stay healthy, I'm intrigued here we and

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and Rashid she like him. Jawan Johnson looks like a
nice tight end. Alvin Kamara when he comes back, if
he can return to form. Kendre Miller intriguing rookie prospect.
But I'm just out on Derek Carr. He's just so
very blot to me. He's Emo Andy Dalton, right, That's
what we dubbed him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
That's right, last show. He's Emo Andy Dalton.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
And again Taysom Hill is there to muck up everything
in the red zone. We're gonna see Taysom Hill come
in for Derek Carr at times in the red zone,
and I'm just not into Car at all. There are
quarterbacks going after him who I'm far more interested in,
like guys like Jordan Love Howel, Sam Howell's on the list,
Matt Stafford, Kenny Pickett just would much. I've taken those

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guys over Derek Carr ten out of ten times.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Thort alluded to my blacklist player already earlier in the show.
Deshaun Watson troubling at his high adp here. Yeah, he
was a fat top five fantasy quarterback in twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. That's a long time ago. This
is his seventh year. What if Deshaun Watson isn't a
runner anymore and they didn't they didn't draw up designed

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runs for him in Cleveland last year. What if he's
not a runner now? We got to rely just on
Deshaun Watson's arm. Even during his heyday for Deshaun Watson,
that twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty years, he passed
for twenty six touchdowns twenty six touchdowns thirty three touchdowns.
That is that's Derek carr If. I got to rely

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on his arm. That's all I'm getting. Shawn Watson right
now doesn't even look the way training his terrible training
cap is going. He doesn't even look like the best
quarterback on roster right now. We'll see how this lands
out for Deshaun Watson. They got to play him. Shoutouts
to playtr and when you're making DTR Yeah, when you
when you're making a quarter billion dollars, guaranteed, they got
to play him no matter what. So they'll go down.

(01:12:52):
The ship will go down with Deshaun Watson, and it
might Yeah, let's go to the running back position, your
blacklist player thor Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
The Colts are tanking right now pretty overtly, and they
have zero incentive to play Jonathan Taylor. I think there's
a bigger chance than people think that Jonathan Taylor does
not play one singular snap for the Colts this season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
We're at an.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Impass, hard pass on Jonathan Taylor. Do not buy the
depth by Evan Hall everywhere by Evan Hall. Just use
a draft slot laid on Evan Hall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Break down Evan Hall for people that you're so good
with it with rookies. Breakdown Evan Hall for people who
aren't familiar.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
If Evan Hall had played in the SEC, he would
have gone at least two rounds higher. Evan Hall his
testing profile was extremely similar to B. Jean Robinson Jeez,
and he had, like his receiving numbers were very similar
as well. Like you look at like the his snap
distribution out of the slot, his snap distribution out of
the boundary, his receptions, his receiving yards, everything like that

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was fabulous for Evanhall. Interests that he played at Northwestern,
so every time he was handed the ball, he was
confronted by three guys behind the line of scrimmage. You
just didn't get to see him as much with that
different stuff. But his vision is very good in part
because he had to develop it because he was constantly
confronted with guys there and then Northwestern guy, you know,
very creative with his usage, you know, putting him out

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in the slot, putting him on why, different stuff like that,
just trying to get him the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Again, because the offensive line outside of Peter Skronsky, the
one other good guy they had on offense, was so
bad I'm a big, big fan of Evan Hall's game,
and I think they're gonna get him on the field
immediately because I don't think Jardedthan Taylor is going.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
To be on that teap.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
People can't see this, but he just that's just all
came right off the top of Thor's head, which are
pretty impressive. Normally were reading notes, but not there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Let's go to your blacklist running back, Brian.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
He did fail to call him the incredible hole though.
You got to work on that, Thord to the note.
Since then, all right, I've been out on this guy
all off season and I remain out, even though there's
been some encouraging news and videos servicing of Breese Hall,
who's been taking off the pup list. There's some training
camp pipe videos of him running very fast and a
straight line, but coming off major knee injury, you can't

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just run fast in a straight line. You need to cut,
you need to juke. I do not think he's gonna
be there this year. He's playing, He's in the most
crowded running back room in the NFL right now with
the edition of Dalvin Cook, and right now he's RB thirteen.
That's after the slide. I think the ADP is gonna
rise now that he's been activated off the pup and
people have seen him run fast, but he's not going

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to pay off that ADP. It's a hill I'm gonna
die on. I'm still out on Priest Hall entirely at
this incredibly bloated price for someone coming off major knee injury.
Not even it's less than a year removed, so I'm
just not buying into it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Breese Hall are running back thirteen. My blacklist running back
is running back twelve Travis Etn. Already We've mentioned to him.
We've mentioned him already in this show, but also numerous
times in our offseason shows as well. And I will
again reiterate my case against Travis Etn. Number one, Tank Bigsby,
really really good player. Number two Travis Etn is not

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a goal line back. They tried him at the goal
line las Ye because they didn't have any options. He
was no good there. He's gonna continue what. I don't
even think they're gonna give him the ball. It's gonna
be Tank Bigsby getting that. They only threw to him
at an average of two receptions eighteen yards last year.
Travis Etn's past catching ability has been overrated in the
minds of many tank Maybe the better receiver straight up
think he's gonna deaf, He's gonna have nothing else eat

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into any receptions Travis Etn would have gotten, and so
really that just leaves you the non scoring fantasy parts
for a running back, which is just yards that doesn't
bat up for the twelfth running back in the draft.
Travis Etn out, let's go to our wide receivers, your
blacklist receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Or totally agree on that take charge you the wide receiver.
Kadarius Tony. I wouldn't touch Kadarius Tony with a ten
foot Paul. I wouldn't draft him with one of Brian's
draft picks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Kadarius Tony is a manufactured touch gadget player who doesn't
win downfield.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
He can't win in traffic. He has if he hands,
he has durability.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Issues in related new He's going to be an active
for a second straight preseason game this weekend, but don't
let his injury woes off escape from the fact that
when he's on the field, he's severely overhyped, not a
good player, like all he can do is move that's it,
but you have to manufacture that touches for him. He
never going to turn into the difference maker that people
want him to be. I'm out on him. The guys

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that I want there, I want Sky Moore. I would
even Justin Ross. If Justin Ross stays, you know, like
healthy on the field, He's a better player than Kadarius Tony.
The other guy that I really like is Rashie Rice. Oh, rookie,
Rashie Rice is going to produce immediately. So Raschie Rice
really interesting player. He's a shade under six to one.

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He's six foot in five eighths two to oh four
but tested in the ninety seventh percentile and his wingspan
six foot four.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Geez.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
And this was a guy that one downfield consistently at
SIM he actually won at all three levels. He had
three and fifty two targets over four seasons at SMU.
Twenty percent of his targets during that time came twenty
plus yards downfield. This guy can do a whole bunch
of different things. I think Mahomes is gonna really like
working with him. He has a basketball background and you

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can see that when he goes downfield. He's one of
those guys that extends up and he can play through contact.
Guys try to come through his back that they certainly
did in the AAC. When he's playing at SMU doesn't
lose his concentration like a four to five kid. Whatever
goes up and rebounds the ball. I'm a big fan
of his game. I think he plays immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Rashie Rice is gonna is he for this year? I'm
in a redraft league, not talking Dynasty or Empire. What
do you expect this season? I think he plays right away.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Yeah, And in that sort of wide open Kansas City
receiver room, they need a boundary receiver, especially one that
can make plays downfield, working with Mahomes, those extended plays whatnot.
That's what Rashee Rice does. So like, I think Rashid
Rice plays right away. And when you're talking about like
all these other like people try to talk themselves into
all these various Kansas City wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I don't need to be talked into Rashid Rice.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
This kid did it right away at ASM you from
day one, and then did it over the course of
four years. He would getting over one hundred targets per
season and dominate in the AAC Like I said, all right,
Mahome's gonna love working with him. I compared him to
Nate burlesson coming out, very very similar measurables. He gonna
handle targets and usage right away. I think you're going
to excel there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
All right, let's go to your blacklist wide receiver, Brian.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
This guy is going right after Kadarius Tony in ADP
and someone I'm avoiding at all costs. It's Jamison Williams
of Detroit, who mentioned earlier he's heard his hamstring so
he's out for the rest of the preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
That doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
He's going to miss the first six games of the
season serving his suspension. You'll get him for two games
when he comes back. Then they had their bye in
week nine, so the first nine games you're getting two
weeks of James and Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
No, I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
It's not worth the stat Right after, and speaking of
not worth the stash, I'm rocking a pretty nice stash
that is worth rocking right now, which.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
People could see it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Yeah, it charged you like it, you trust you complimented
me on it earlier. But right after James and Williams
is going in drafts is Odell Beckham, who in my
peacock off I said he's gonna get a top twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Four wide receiver this year.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
So I'll take Odell every time over Williams and other
guys LA going later. Jacoby Myers went very high on
so just I don't get James and Williams going almost
inside the top one hundred players. Right now, we're gonna
get two games at best in the first nine weeks
of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
I'm tempted to change my blacklist wide receiver to Odell
Beckham right now, but I'm gonna go trailing Burks and
it has nothing to do with his current injury because
he's going to come back close to Week one anyway,
currently going off the board at wide receiver forty. The
real issue here is Tennessee just doesn't pass enough. You know,
they had the fifth lowest passing play percentage last year,
the second lowest the year before that. And b John Robinson. Yeah,

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he's gonna help the whole offense all together, which is great,
but he's also going to soak up what fifty sixty
seventy receptions by himself. And then there's DeAndre Hopkins, who
likely has got another year left on him. Mike Rabel
has never gotten fantasy production from a second wide out ever,
and often, by the way, not a first wide out.

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If we go through the Verbel era, the best receiver
he's ever had, AJ Brown, barely crept over the one
thousand yard mark. That's it. He's never been able to
get production out of a number two receiver. And that's
what Trailon Burks is going to be, and that's why
he's my blacklist receiver. Let's go to the tight end position,

(01:21:36):
thor who you got is your blacklist tight end.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
I'm gonna go with IRV Smith, Who's tight end nineteen
in the adp IRV l Busto. In my twenty twenty
one pre draft rankings, I ranked IRV tight end five
and number ninety eight overall. I was looking, you know,
Arifasan does that Consentive's big board every single year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
He wrote in his I went back and I looked
at it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
He wrote in that column that I had IRV quote
unquote remarkably low, because IRV that year was number thirty
nine and tight end three, and the kids sends the board.
I had him, you know, ninety eight at tight end five.
Like I said, he's an NFL tweener. He's small, he
doesn't change directions very well, he's not a natural hands catcher,

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and he doesn't move east to west. He also can't
block in line, and then he has a durability concerns.
Every single year. You hear people in August be like, Oh,
if Irv just stays on the field, he's going to
break out this year. Well, you can't put him in line,
and he can't. He's not gonna stay healthy anyway. And
then you can't do a whole bunch of things with
him in the passing game because it's just north South stuff,

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and he's always has to be a tertiary option in
the passing game even when he's on the field. I
don't get the whole Irv Smith thing. Cincinnati should have
used probably their first round pick on a tight end.
I get why they were sort of skittish about Mayor,
but they probably should have moved up for Delton Cacata.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
For being honest, I'm out, totally out on Irv's meith.
I think that almost goes saying he's my wife, my
tight end thirty three. That's correct, that's right. FA wouldn't
agree more. Ah, your blacklist tight end Brian.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Mine is Greg Dolcich right now, tight end thirteen, and
that is preposterous considering he's not even the starting tight
end right now. That's Adam Trautman, who, by the way,
is a Sean Payton guy. So Greg Dolcic at tight
end thirteen, no out entirely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
All right, easy, it's easy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I'll take Jerald Everett around later every day, all day,
every day.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Jerald Evertt. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Cole Comett's got a bunch of steam because he finished
okay last year. But let's remember he was zero touchdowns
two years ago, and then last year he did absolutely
nothing in the first half of the season, I mean,
complete disaster, killing fantasy owners who had gambled on him.
Then in the second half of last year it started
to click and he scored seven times. But here's the

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weird thing that's masking the fact that he had fewer targets,
fewer receptions, and fewer yards and he had the previous
when he had no touchdowns. Rashawn Johnson and Justin Fields
are going to be potent goal line vultures that could
take away touchdown totals from Cole Comet, and while DJ
Moore is ultimately going to help the totality of this offense,

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that may take away some opportunities as well. For cole Comet.
I hate guys that have the potential to give me
like zero catch games, one catch games, two catch games.
That's cole Comet in a nutshell right there. So that
part worries me. Let's transition to our Sleepers of the week.
We give out one sleeper every week beginning here thor

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who is your sleeper this week? Sleeper for like preseason?
No to draft? Oh, can Brian start this time?

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Brian Sleeper of the week? Who you got?

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
I'm going to Kyrin Williams, running back for the Rams
in his second year. Last year, Williams was injured in
the season opener and was inactive until mid November. As
a result, finished with just thirty nine rushing attempts at
nine catches, so he was a nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
No one really knows.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Who he is until recently, drafters are finally getting in right.
Everyone was drafting rookie Zach Evans instead of Kyrien Williams's
cam Akers, backup, handcuffever, whatever you want to call it,
but Williams was drafted in the fifth round of the
twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Evans was drafted in the
sixth round this year, so more draft capital was put
into Williams. And Williams was a beast in his final

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season at Notre Dame as a junior, so he declared early,
totaling thirteen hundred plus combo yards and seventeen touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
With the Irish.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
So he was an elite pass catcher primarily, and they're
going to use Williams as a pass catcher in LA
that he's going to play like a very James White
type role for Sean McVay, who comes from the Patriots system.
If you recall James White, he was target He was
like top ten among in targets among all players in

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its prime. And if something were to happen to Akers,
Williams is going to be the starter. It's not Evans.
So I love Kyron Williams right now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I don't now Williams. He has a right to
get he has a right to get better in your
two but I rostered that dude when Cam Akers torpedoed
last year. I rostered that dude and tried to get
some more value out of him, and watching him, I
didn't see anything that made me feel like he was
belonged in the NFL. So I'm nervous about Kyrien Williams.
We'll see. I hope you're right and I'm wrong. My

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sleeper of the week is Indianapolis tight end Jelannie Woods.
Going off the board, it picked three hundred and eleven
tight end thirty eight. Now he's got a hamstring injury
that's keeping him out of training cap and that's further
suppressing his value. But a reminder from last year's rookie
year with Jilanni Woods. An insane athletic and specimen former quarterback,

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which seems very improbable considering he's six foot seven, two
hundred and sixty pounds, massive mismatch for defenders. He's rangy,
he gets opened down field. He's a good blocker, way
more talent than Moali Cox and Kyle Ranson. I think
he moves into the lead tight end spot early this year.
Special athleticism for Jelannie Woods, and I feel like the

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breakout could be coming right here. He started put piecing
together some big games at the end of last year.
Jelanie Woods My breakout candidate at tight end going up
to board to pick three hundred and eleven. That is
a deep sleeper, all right, thor you are up sleeper
of the week.

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
I was trying to think of someone that I hadn't
talked about yet, because I was gonna say Tank Dell,
and then I was like, I already talked about Tankte.
I love tank Te. I'm gonna go with Marvin Mims instead.
I don't think I talked about him yet. I think
Marvin Mims starts right away. Marvin Mims was a stud
right from the start at Oklahoma, was a stud all
three years he was there. I think he's gonna start
right away with Denver, and they're going to pass the
ball better this year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
So I'm gonna go with Martin Mims. Arvin Mims, all right,
So that's well off radar. I like that, Yeah right,
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
Kyron Williams was not healthy when Acres was mia, so
you that take his entirely off.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
I already played last year.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
He did talks the end of the year, but that's
when Acres came on strong, so Williams didn't really get
his So I'm gonna remember this one a right good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. I hope
he gets better in your two because last year was
not good and that is a fact. Thank you for
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