November 7, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Band recket Reckett.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm here, Hey everybody, Welcome back to another episode of
The Tailgate, brought to you by Ticketmaster. I am the
host of the show si Onminton, and joining me is
the co host of the show, the Great Chad Daniels
and Chaddy.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
D Hello, boy, oh boy, what.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A difference a week can make.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm gonna tell you. You know, we talk about it all
the time. We're not a review show, but I would
just like to spend the next half hour reviewing the
beauty of that last game. I know we can't, but yikes,
what a difference a week makes, is completely true. Got
some people back, got some people that were replacing the
people that we're out that are still making great plays.
(00:55):
I'm telling you, it's looking up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's looking up. And I talked to a lot of
people last week going into the Lions game that were
basically on armageddon. Watch the O'Connell run to this point
has been so successful and has you. I don't know
that in the team's eyes they look at it this way,
but from a national media and a fan standpoint, they
(01:19):
have overachieved kind of at every turn. I think when
they had that big first year with Kirk. I don't
think anyone saw him doing that. When they lost Kirk
and they brought Dobbs in and they were starting Mullins,
I don't think anyone saw him succeeding in any way.
Yet they had that crazy Atlanta game in a little
run when Darnald came here and JJ gets hurt. No
one sees that coming, so well, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I actually did see it coming. But it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think this was the first time that there was
the fan base was faced with it not going not
just the way they hoped it had, but better than
the way they hoped it had.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And man, I.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Had some friends on ledges and to come out and
see the team respond, it's almost like they played to
prove all that worry wrong. And I know that's not
how it works, but like everything that people worried about
or complained to me got flipped on its head in
(02:15):
that last game. Yeah, and that feels really good to
walk forward from that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I agree. I mean, I have a friend who is
a comedian that lives in Detroit, and we made a
side bet on some promotional things and he goes, all right,
nine point five points is the spread. So that's what
you get and I go, I looked him right in
the face, and I go, you keep those points. I
don't need them, not this week.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So basically, what you bet is it's like one of
those things where mayors are like, if we win, I'll
wear your jersey. But you guys bet promoting each other's
stand up material.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah. Absolutely. When I go to Detroit, now he has
to promote for an entire week stories on all his stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And that is the guy who was on this show
last week. No, Zach Martin. It's not the great Zach Martinez.
Who else do we know that's a Detroit.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
For Well, this is actually so I say, from Detroit,
but actually from across the state in Grand Rapids. But
I'm not gonna sh.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, I know who we're talking about. Let's shift to
the Ravens and let me give you Let's start this
out with I think arguably the weirdest stat in Viking history.
I know that's dramatic. I know you think I'm over
the top, but let me lay it down for you.
You are, okay, The Vikings have played the Baltimore Ravens
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seven times. They have won three of those games in
those three seasons that they won those three games every
single time they went to the NFC Championship. Interesting, they
have lost four times in the four seasons in which
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they lost those four times. At the end of the year,
the head coach was relieved of its duties. Oh so
every time we play the Ravens, just historically, Yeah, we
either go to the NFC Championship or we fire our
coach and Chad, can I tell you something?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Uh huh, God, damn.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't see us firing last year's coach of the year.
So I think whatever we felt against the Lions.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Pump pump, pump it up. I think we're going to
the moon. I this is what we in the business
call a trend, and I would love to hop on
this trend.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I've already hopped on the trend. I can't wait. I'll
see you guys at the NFC Championship game. I will
be there, of course. Yeah. I'm excited to watch that game.
I'm excited to watch them win. I'm excited to watch
them continue to win. But the fact is so Lamar
Jackson is back.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Mr Jackson is back. He's very good.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Which, by the way, I got to tell you something
I feel like I feel like I could be a
GM because I when he he got injured, I said,
you have to have a quarterback that can move because
this offense is based on a running quarterback. It doesn't
work for the quarterback to sit back in the pocket
this particular offense. The first week they had a pocket
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pass or guy got murder murdered. Second week they found
somebody that could move, they win. So anyways, I'm up
for GM, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Can I tell you something that I'm very confident in. Yeah,
I think you might be. Though you could, you would
probably be the worst GM in the history of professional sports.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's not true at all, because I Hey, you want
a GM that plays with his mind and not his heart, Well,
nice try, loser. I'm in there every day making decisions
based on my relationships, based on my love of the game.
I use my brain zero percent of this.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You're leading with your heart. You're a GM that leads
with his heart.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Speaking of leading with a body part, Hey, you want
to tackle Derrick Henry. Watch his belly button. He crops
his shirts. He makes it easy for you. I'm saying
the body can't go where the belly button isn't going
quit trying to tackle people on their shoulders. Look at
their belly button.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's an alla ball thing. I had a coach that
was a real Bobby Knight type when I was younger.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Throwing chairs, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The main thing that I took from him was he said,
watch the stomach. The body can't go anywhere without the stomach.
The stomach never lies.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And actually what also happens is then the player that
you're guarding starts to freak out because they're like, hey,
why do you keep looking at my belly button? And
they're out of their game. Now. It's like a head game,
but it works. But all I'm saying is you can't
go high on Derrick Henry. He's gonna grab your helmet
and he's going to push your face into the ground.
You gotta tackle his belly button.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It'll be a really good test, and I think there's
something significantly leaning in our favor given what we saw
in the Lions game. But I want to come back
to that because I do you know, we do a
little bit of history on this show, and this matchup
also has one of my in addition to a crazy
weird stat one of my favorite history moments I was
(07:18):
at Hilarities in Cleveland, Sure for a week of shows,
the Great Hilarities opening for the Great Jake Johansens. This
is pretty early in my.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Career, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I sat at a bar all by myself and
watched the twenty thirteen Ravens Vikings game and if you recall,
we lost it. But that was that absurd game where
there was such horrible snow that the field crew had
to plow the field at halftime. And in the last
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two minutes of that game everything goes nuts. Two minutes
and seven seconds left, Dennis Pitta scores a touchdown, the
Ravens take the lead. Then boom, Vikings get the ball back.
Two plays later, blast from the pass Toby Gerhart Toby
gearharts forty one yards for a touchdown. Ravens get the
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ball back, run the kickoff back for a touchdown. They
retake the lead. Then Corderyo Patterson scores on a seventy
nine yard touchdown pass for the Vikings. They take the lead,
and then Marlon Brown scores on a nine yard touchdown
with only nine seconds left, the Ravens win. I haven't
seen every football game in the history of football I
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don't have that roll of Dex like our friend Alex Schubert.
But yeah, that has to be about the craziest two
minutes in the history of professional football. And it was
in the snow. Guys were sliding, guys were diving.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's what made those plays possible, is that in the snow,
once you get going forward, it is so hard because
nobody can catch you, because everybody's trying to cut and
make up ground on you. Now you say this is
the greatest professional game probably in the snow, I'm gonna
throw one little amateur at you. Ninety one Cleveland Elementary
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School field. I remember a Fritz Skinner going to Sam
Skinner for ninety nine yard touchdown, and then I remember
immediately Eric Johnson throwing a bomb to excuse me, but
yours truly in the snow, high stepping in my sore
l boots for the touchdown for the win.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Now, I'm not saying it was the greatest professional snow
game of all time. I think people will get really
mad at me for that. I'm just saying it was
the most It's in the conversation for craziest two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh yeah, crazy is two minutes. No doubt Before we.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Go to break here and then come back to talk
about a little bit about Baltimore and about the matchup.
Can we just take a pause since he came up
in this memory for me, and talk about Cordero Patterson.
That game, he gets five receptions, one hundred and forty
one yards and a touchdown. I was thinking about him
(09:53):
the other day. What an interesting, amazing career where most
I think it was it's tough to come to our team,
a team that we were the team of a mad
Rashad and the team of Chris Carter and the team
of Randy Moss, so you think of wide receivers in
a very specific way. And he came into the league
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and not only was he not that type of guy,
but he was so before his time in terms of
positionless football. I mean, he goes on, he sets the
NFL record for kick returns. Right, he's like a four
time All Pro. He wins, he goes and he wins
a Super Bowl with Bill Belichick. And you can't be
dumb and play for Bill Belichick. You gotta be a
(10:36):
hell of a football player with a big old football brain,
right of course, And then he has this amazing second
act to his career where he gets to Atlanta and
they go, you're a running back, and then everybody goes, oh, man,
he's so good at running back. Yeah, I just in retrospect,
he's probably the most underdiscussed unique vite. Him and Percy
(10:57):
Harvin are kind of like the great what ifs for
me if they'd have been in a different time period
or gotten to do what they did late early.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Patterson is the faith no More of football, right, faith
no More? What is it? It's it. They were Limp
Biscuit before Limp Biscuit, but nobody knew where to put them,
and so they didn't get the notoriety that they should
have gotten. And then Limp Biscuit goes on with Fred
Durst to like smash Its and you're like, from my generation,
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you go, this is a faith no More ripoff. And
so that's the same way I feel about Patterson. Sometimes
people get to the level they want to get to
just a little bit too early, and nobody knows where
to put them.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Imagine, yeah, that's a great point. Imagine if Cordero Patterson,
if you handed him to Kyle Shanahan the same year
that Kyle Shanahan got Deebo Samuel. Sure, you're like, oh
a giant Deebo Samuel, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Huge core.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
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Welcome back to the Vikings Tailgate. It's me ci ci On,
it's in the host co host Chad Daniels. Your favorite
football team coming off a big win, and let me
tell you coming off the Lions win, Chad, I know,
I know, very little about professional football from an understanding
it standpoint. We discussed that pretty much every week. But
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what I've been told by people that I think are
very smart is the Lions play a lot of man coverage. Okay,
and JJ McCarthy, let's just let's start right there and
then I'll come back to this, right just he just
looked so competent and confident, like he looked in complete
command of the huddle. I'm not saying there weren't mistakes,
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but you didn't see a rattle behind his eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
They didn't get compounded. That's I think that's the huge difference.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, and you didn't like, you know, he's a really
good raw ra guy, but you also didn't even really
see that during the game. You just saw a quarterback
who went out there, got the plays in, did what
he was supposed to do, had good moments, had some
not good moments, but really controlled the game as a
signal caller in this body language, confident way. And for me,
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after the first two games like that put me through
the roof. I know that simply simple and silly, but
it put me through the roof.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, I think you can say simpy people are gonna
know what that means simpy and silly.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm going to tell you what I loved. He scores
a touchdown right, gets into the end zone, and then
he breaks out the gritty because we got to cramped
up JJ on the sidelines, just a little shout out.
I think that's good leadership. I think it's It looked
like while his ankle was being mended, it looked like
they just hooked him up to the matrix and uploaded
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him with everything. And it was so fun as a
Vikings fan to go. This was what my brain was
telling me. This is what we know it can be. Right.
This is an entire game of the fourth quarter of
the Bears game. It's an entire wire to wire.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And it felt like I'm not here to say it
was the greatest performance in the history of football, but
it felt like what I think a good rookie quarterback
should feel like, which is enticy.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Right. And because you're never going to be able to
put your finger on the greatest performance in football because
that happened at the Cleveland Elementary School in nineteen ninety one.
Now I'm jacked up about it. I think that this
matchup you're talking about Manda Man with the Lions Ravens,
go man, de man.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What's so interesting to me is, you know, the Bears
per my understanding disguise a lot of stuff on defense.
Lions are Manda man, JJ looks really comfortable. We get
another man de man get a little comfortable there and then,
and we're only talking about the Ravens. But I want
to jump into the future a little bit. What a
fun opportunity that is off in the distance where after
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the Ravens, it's the Bears and you get to have
this side by side comparison of this guy, like, here's
what happened week one with this team. Now here's what
it looks like week whatever with this team. And oh,
by the way, it's inarguable that the Bears are trending
the right direction. So it's an even harder version of
what you saw earlier. And I think the Ravens, because
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of what you said, present an opportunity to keep stepping
in the right direction. And as a fan base, after
the way everybody was feeling, man, that's the number one
thing that has me looking forward to this game.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be an exciting game,
and I mean I'm already ready with my predictions.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, I want to talk about you know, everybody talks
about JJ, but the couple things that I think are
important crazy O line combinations right here. So everybody recognized
now that the on line is getting healthy for the
most part without Kelly, that they really looked the part.
I thought it was super interesting to get Aaron Jones
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back healthy. With the A line healthy, it's a good
defensive line for the Lions. And when the Vikings went,
what if we just ran it right into the teeth
of what you think you're good at, yah, and they're
popping seven eight, nine, thirty one yards, very very fun.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Jordan Mason, we all know, is an unbelievable runner. Aaron
Jones is a different kind of runner. And when we
have two basically starting running backs that have different styles,
it is tough to keep an eye on all of it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And can I throw since we're in a positive mood,
can I throw something on the positive pile for you?
I think, and I believe, Donovan Jackson isn't just like
a stud in the making. This dude is a super
stud in the making. If he's as good as I
think he might be, Buckle up, yeah, bug. If this
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dude looks as good as I believe he looks and
keeps progressing in this way for the first time since
Stucy and Randall McDaniel and Corey String Like, I'm talking
ninety eight. Yeah, I think this line has ninety eight
potential And everybody's gonna get mad at me and send
me messages. But I'm in love with Donovan Jackson's ball
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and I think it's going.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
The right direction on This is what I'm talking about
with everything is is what we thought at the beginning
of the year, Right, we got defensive guys coming back,
we got a running back coming back, we got a
quarterback coming back. We got our O line looking healthy
and finally stepping up to the potential. Oh heavens, this
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is what happens. I get jacked up.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let's do the last one, then, dude, let's talk about
the Gink. Yes, let's talk about old Andy Van Gink.
If Brian Flores could build a guy for a role,
he would build like He's like, that's the exact guy.
And then he's a very, very, very skilled athlete. And
then I just think his football brain operates at a
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different level than everyone else.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
He's connecting the dots very quickly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You just can't knock down that many balls and not
be so incredibly football intelligent. You know, our grave had
a good game. Cashman at a game. Eric Wilson was incredible.
But I think having that dude out there doing all
the right things and making all the right reads with
all that athleticism, I think it just breathed this almost
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leash into everybody else to let them shout out to
all the defense who came on and go. So but
that is what I'm pumped about. We're coming against a
running quarterback, seeing Van Ginkel get another week with this defense.
It's like you said, are we going to get what
we thought we were going to get quite a while ago?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We are who we thought we are.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We are who we thought we are, Chatty Daddy or
I thought we were. Let's do predictions. Okay, we're doing
game prediction. Yeah, we're doing player prediction, and then we're
doing Chad prediction because I believe is this a home game?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It is, and I believe you will be there. I
will not, unfortunately interesting, but so here's what I love.
Game prediction. It's tough because Lamar Jackson is back, yes,
and uh, he just does turn the team into something different.
Anytime you have two running backs basically back there, but
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one of them can throw the ball ninety yards, it
does change things. And so unfortunately this week I have
to go Baltimore Ravens twenty four, Minnesota Vikings seven hundred
and eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's a little closer than I thought you would have it. Yeah,
I just don't. I know he's back. I've got Baltimore
at seventeen. Okay, Vikings at one hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, all right, who you got for player? Well, player,
I'm going the Van Gank. You're going ganky, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna break it down in a little different
way though. I'm gonna go three tackles for loss, and
then I'm going either sack or pick.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, one of the two. So a lot of a
lot of impact plays.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He's going to be in the backfield. Yeah, yeah, he's
gonna be in the backfield quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm gonna go that. I think I think we're on
the verge of one of those Justin Jefferson moments where
we go, oh my god, did you just catch fifteen
balls for one hundred and ninety some yards and a
few touchdowns. I said a few, a few touchdowns. That's three,
you see, it's a few. And so that is what
I'm going with. What's your Chad prediction.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Chad prediction is you're not going to be able to
wear your Minnesota frost stuff to this game. I understand
it's purple. I understand they've won the only two Cups
in professional women's hockey. You can't wear it this game
because the Ravens are also purple. So I'm predicting a
lot more Vikings wear at this game.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I'm going to predict that a lot of how
I behave on next week's program will ride on whether
or not the joy and emotions of what happened this
previous week can continue. Am I teetering because of other
stuff going on in my life?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And I need Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Hey, I'm surprised they didn't put spoiler alert in or
something like that. Of course you're teetering. I've never known
you not to be teetering. What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm the Teeter King.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, which, by the way, I've seen that movie and
it's different.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So thank you to everybody for joining from the Teeter
King and his teeter Queen Chad Daniels. We hope you
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bur
Band recket Reckett.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm here, Hey everybody, Welcome back to another episode of
The Tailgate, brought to you by Ticketmaster. I am the
host of the show si Onminton, and joining me is
the co host of the show, the Great Chad Daniels
and Chaddy.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
D Hello, boy, oh boy, what.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A difference a week can make.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm gonna tell you. You know, we talk about it all
the time. We're not a review show, but I would
just like to spend the next half hour reviewing the
beauty of that last game. I know we can't, but yikes,
what a difference a week makes, is completely true. Got
some people back, got some people that were replacing the
people that we're out that are still making great plays.
(00:55):
I'm telling you, it's looking up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's looking up. And I talked to a lot of
people last week going into the Lions game that were
basically on armageddon. Watch the O'Connell run to this point
has been so successful and has you. I don't know
that in the team's eyes they look at it this way,
but from a national media and a fan standpoint, they
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have overachieved kind of at every turn. I think when
they had that big first year with Kirk. I don't
think anyone saw him doing that. When they lost Kirk
and they brought Dobbs in and they were starting Mullins,
I don't think anyone saw him succeeding in any way.
Yet they had that crazy Atlanta game in a little
run when Darnald came here and JJ gets hurt. No
one sees that coming, so well, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I actually did see it coming. But it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think this was the first time that there was
the fan base was faced with it not going not
just the way they hoped it had, but better than
the way they hoped it had.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And man, I.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Had some friends on ledges and to come out and
see the team respond, it's almost like they played to
prove all that worry wrong. And I know that's not
how it works, but like everything that people worried about
or complained to me got flipped on its head in
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that last game. Yeah, and that feels really good to
walk forward from that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I agree. I mean, I have a friend who is
a comedian that lives in Detroit, and we made a
side bet on some promotional things and he goes, all right,
nine point five points is the spread. So that's what
you get and I go, I looked him right in
the face, and I go, you keep those points. I
don't need them, not this week.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So basically, what you bet is it's like one of
those things where mayors are like, if we win, I'll
wear your jersey. But you guys bet promoting each other's
stand up material.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah. Absolutely. When I go to Detroit, now he has
to promote for an entire week stories on all his stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And that is the guy who was on this show
last week. No, Zach Martin. It's not the great Zach Martinez.
Who else do we know that's a Detroit.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
For Well, this is actually so I say, from Detroit,
but actually from across the state in Grand Rapids. But
I'm not gonna sh.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, I know who we're talking about. Let's shift to
the Ravens and let me give you Let's start this
out with I think arguably the weirdest stat in Viking history.
I know that's dramatic. I know you think I'm over
the top, but let me lay it down for you.
You are, okay, The Vikings have played the Baltimore Ravens
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seven times. They have won three of those games in
those three seasons that they won those three games every
single time they went to the NFC Championship. Interesting, they
have lost four times in the four seasons in which
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they lost those four times. At the end of the year,
the head coach was relieved of its duties. Oh so
every time we play the Ravens, just historically, Yeah, we
either go to the NFC Championship or we fire our
coach and Chad, can I tell you something?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Uh huh, God, damn.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't see us firing last year's coach of the year.
So I think whatever we felt against the Lions.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Pump pump, pump it up. I think we're going to
the moon. I this is what we in the business
call a trend, and I would love to hop on
this trend.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I've already hopped on the trend. I can't wait. I'll
see you guys at the NFC Championship game. I will
be there, of course. Yeah. I'm excited to watch that game.
I'm excited to watch them win. I'm excited to watch
them continue to win. But the fact is so Lamar
Jackson is back.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Mr Jackson is back. He's very good.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Which, by the way, I got to tell you something
I feel like I feel like I could be a
GM because I when he he got injured, I said,
you have to have a quarterback that can move because
this offense is based on a running quarterback. It doesn't
work for the quarterback to sit back in the pocket
this particular offense. The first week they had a pocket
(05:15):
pass or guy got murder murdered. Second week they found
somebody that could move, they win. So anyways, I'm up
for GM, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Can I tell you something that I'm very confident in. Yeah,
I think you might be. Though you could, you would
probably be the worst GM in the history of professional sports.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's not true at all, because I Hey, you want
a GM that plays with his mind and not his heart, Well,
nice try, loser. I'm in there every day making decisions
based on my relationships, based on my love of the game.
I use my brain zero percent of this.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You're leading with your heart. You're a GM that leads
with his heart.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Speaking of leading with a body part, Hey, you want
to tackle Derrick Henry. Watch his belly button. He crops
his shirts. He makes it easy for you. I'm saying
the body can't go where the belly button isn't going
quit trying to tackle people on their shoulders. Look at
their belly button.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's an alla ball thing. I had a coach that
was a real Bobby Knight type when I was younger.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Throwing chairs, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The main thing that I took from him was he said,
watch the stomach. The body can't go anywhere without the stomach.
The stomach never lies.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And actually what also happens is then the player that
you're guarding starts to freak out because they're like, hey,
why do you keep looking at my belly button? And
they're out of their game. Now. It's like a head game,
but it works. But all I'm saying is you can't
go high on Derrick Henry. He's gonna grab your helmet
and he's going to push your face into the ground.
You gotta tackle his belly button.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It'll be a really good test, and I think there's
something significantly leaning in our favor given what we saw
in the Lions game. But I want to come back
to that because I do you know, we do a
little bit of history on this show, and this matchup
also has one of my in addition to a crazy
weird stat one of my favorite history moments I was
(07:18):
at Hilarities in Cleveland, Sure for a week of shows,
the Great Hilarities opening for the Great Jake Johansens. This
is pretty early in my.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Career, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I sat at a bar all by myself and
watched the twenty thirteen Ravens Vikings game and if you recall,
we lost it. But that was that absurd game where
there was such horrible snow that the field crew had
to plow the field at halftime. And in the last
(07:49):
two minutes of that game everything goes nuts. Two minutes
and seven seconds left, Dennis Pitta scores a touchdown, the
Ravens take the lead. Then boom, Vikings get the ball back.
Two plays later, blast from the pass Toby Gerhart Toby
gearharts forty one yards for a touchdown. Ravens get the
(08:10):
ball back, run the kickoff back for a touchdown. They
retake the lead. Then Corderyo Patterson scores on a seventy
nine yard touchdown pass for the Vikings. They take the lead,
and then Marlon Brown scores on a nine yard touchdown
with only nine seconds left, the Ravens win. I haven't
seen every football game in the history of football I
(08:31):
don't have that roll of Dex like our friend Alex Schubert.
But yeah, that has to be about the craziest two
minutes in the history of professional football. And it was
in the snow. Guys were sliding, guys were diving.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's what made those plays possible, is that in the snow,
once you get going forward, it is so hard because
nobody can catch you, because everybody's trying to cut and
make up ground on you. Now you say this is
the greatest professional game probably in the snow, I'm gonna
throw one little amateur at you. Ninety one Cleveland Elementary
(09:03):
School field. I remember a Fritz Skinner going to Sam
Skinner for ninety nine yard touchdown, and then I remember
immediately Eric Johnson throwing a bomb to excuse me, but
yours truly in the snow, high stepping in my sore
l boots for the touchdown for the win.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Now, I'm not saying it was the greatest professional snow
game of all time. I think people will get really
mad at me for that. I'm just saying it was
the most It's in the conversation for craziest two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh yeah, crazy is two minutes. No doubt Before we.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Go to break here and then come back to talk
about a little bit about Baltimore and about the matchup.
Can we just take a pause since he came up
in this memory for me, and talk about Cordero Patterson.
That game, he gets five receptions, one hundred and forty
one yards and a touchdown. I was thinking about him
(09:53):
the other day. What an interesting, amazing career where most
I think it was it's tough to come to our team,
a team that we were the team of a mad
Rashad and the team of Chris Carter and the team
of Randy Moss, so you think of wide receivers in
a very specific way. And he came into the league
(10:14):
and not only was he not that type of guy,
but he was so before his time in terms of
positionless football. I mean, he goes on, he sets the
NFL record for kick returns. Right, he's like a four
time All Pro. He wins, he goes and he wins
a Super Bowl with Bill Belichick. And you can't be
dumb and play for Bill Belichick. You gotta be a
(10:36):
hell of a football player with a big old football brain,
right of course, And then he has this amazing second
act to his career where he gets to Atlanta and
they go, you're a running back, and then everybody goes, oh, man,
he's so good at running back. Yeah, I just in retrospect,
he's probably the most underdiscussed unique vite. Him and Percy
(10:57):
Harvin are kind of like the great what ifs for
me if they'd have been in a different time period
or gotten to do what they did late early.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Patterson is the faith no More of football, right, faith
no More? What is it? It's it. They were Limp
Biscuit before Limp Biscuit, but nobody knew where to put them,
and so they didn't get the notoriety that they should
have gotten. And then Limp Biscuit goes on with Fred
Durst to like smash Its and you're like, from my generation,
(11:29):
you go, this is a faith no More ripoff. And
so that's the same way I feel about Patterson. Sometimes
people get to the level they want to get to
just a little bit too early, and nobody knows where
to put them.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Imagine, yeah, that's a great point. Imagine if Cordero Patterson,
if you handed him to Kyle Shanahan the same year
that Kyle Shanahan got Deebo Samuel. Sure, you're like, oh
a giant Deebo Samuel, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Huge core.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
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Welcome back to the Vikings Tailgate. It's me ci ci On,
it's in the host co host Chad Daniels. Your favorite
football team coming off a big win, and let me
tell you coming off the Lions win, Chad, I know,
I know, very little about professional football from an understanding
it standpoint. We discussed that pretty much every week. But
(13:13):
what I've been told by people that I think are
very smart is the Lions play a lot of man coverage. Okay,
and JJ McCarthy, let's just let's start right there and
then I'll come back to this, right just he just
looked so competent and confident, like he looked in complete
command of the huddle. I'm not saying there weren't mistakes,
(13:36):
but you didn't see a rattle behind his eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
They didn't get compounded. That's I think that's the huge difference.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, and you didn't like, you know, he's a really
good raw ra guy, but you also didn't even really
see that during the game. You just saw a quarterback
who went out there, got the plays in, did what
he was supposed to do, had good moments, had some
not good moments, but really controlled the game as a
signal caller in this body language, confident way. And for me,
(14:04):
after the first two games like that put me through
the roof. I know that simply simple and silly, but
it put me through the roof.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, I think you can say simpy people are gonna
know what that means simpy and silly.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm going to tell you what I loved. He scores
a touchdown right, gets into the end zone, and then
he breaks out the gritty because we got to cramped
up JJ on the sidelines, just a little shout out.
I think that's good leadership. I think it's It looked
like while his ankle was being mended, it looked like
they just hooked him up to the matrix and uploaded
(14:34):
him with everything. And it was so fun as a
Vikings fan to go. This was what my brain was
telling me. This is what we know it can be. Right.
This is an entire game of the fourth quarter of
the Bears game. It's an entire wire to wire.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And it felt like I'm not here to say it
was the greatest performance in the history of football, but
it felt like what I think a good rookie quarterback
should feel like, which is enticy.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Right. And because you're never going to be able to
put your finger on the greatest performance in football because
that happened at the Cleveland Elementary School in nineteen ninety one.
Now I'm jacked up about it. I think that this
matchup you're talking about Manda Man with the Lions Ravens,
go man, de man.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What's so interesting to me is, you know, the Bears
per my understanding disguise a lot of stuff on defense.
Lions are Manda man, JJ looks really comfortable. We get
another man de man get a little comfortable there and then,
and we're only talking about the Ravens. But I want
to jump into the future a little bit. What a
fun opportunity that is off in the distance where after
(15:41):
the Ravens, it's the Bears and you get to have
this side by side comparison of this guy, like, here's
what happened week one with this team. Now here's what
it looks like week whatever with this team. And oh,
by the way, it's inarguable that the Bears are trending
the right direction. So it's an even harder version of
what you saw earlier. And I think the Ravens, because
(16:03):
of what you said, present an opportunity to keep stepping
in the right direction. And as a fan base, after
the way everybody was feeling, man, that's the number one
thing that has me looking forward to this game.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be an exciting game,
and I mean I'm already ready with my predictions.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, I want to talk about you know, everybody talks
about JJ, but the couple things that I think are
important crazy O line combinations right here. So everybody recognized
now that the on line is getting healthy for the
most part without Kelly, that they really looked the part.
I thought it was super interesting to get Aaron Jones
(16:43):
back healthy. With the A line healthy, it's a good
defensive line for the Lions. And when the Vikings went,
what if we just ran it right into the teeth
of what you think you're good at, yah, and they're
popping seven eight, nine, thirty one yards, very very fun.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Jordan Mason, we all know, is an unbelievable runner. Aaron
Jones is a different kind of runner. And when we
have two basically starting running backs that have different styles,
it is tough to keep an eye on all of it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And can I throw since we're in a positive mood,
can I throw something on the positive pile for you?
I think, and I believe, Donovan Jackson isn't just like
a stud in the making. This dude is a super
stud in the making. If he's as good as I
think he might be, Buckle up, yeah, bug. If this
(17:37):
dude looks as good as I believe he looks and
keeps progressing in this way for the first time since
Stucy and Randall McDaniel and Corey String Like, I'm talking
ninety eight. Yeah, I think this line has ninety eight
potential And everybody's gonna get mad at me and send
me messages. But I'm in love with Donovan Jackson's ball
(18:01):
and I think it's going.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
The right direction on This is what I'm talking about
with everything is is what we thought at the beginning
of the year, Right, we got defensive guys coming back,
we got a running back coming back, we got a
quarterback coming back. We got our O line looking healthy
and finally stepping up to the potential. Oh heavens, this
(18:23):
is what happens. I get jacked up.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let's do the last one, then, dude, let's talk about
the Gink. Yes, let's talk about old Andy Van Gink.
If Brian Flores could build a guy for a role,
he would build like He's like, that's the exact guy.
And then he's a very, very, very skilled athlete. And
then I just think his football brain operates at a
(18:47):
different level than everyone else.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
He's connecting the dots very quickly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
You just can't knock down that many balls and not
be so incredibly football intelligent. You know, our grave had
a good game. Cashman at a game. Eric Wilson was incredible.
But I think having that dude out there doing all
the right things and making all the right reads with
all that athleticism, I think it just breathed this almost
(19:15):
leash into everybody else to let them shout out to
all the defense who came on and go. So but
that is what I'm pumped about. We're coming against a
running quarterback, seeing Van Ginkel get another week with this defense.
It's like you said, are we going to get what
we thought we were going to get quite a while ago?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We are who we thought we are.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We are who we thought we are, Chatty Daddy or
I thought we were. Let's do predictions. Okay, we're doing
game prediction. Yeah, we're doing player prediction, and then we're
doing Chad prediction because I believe is this a home game?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It is, and I believe you will be there. I
will not, unfortunately interesting, but so here's what I love.
Game prediction. It's tough because Lamar Jackson is back, yes,
and uh, he just does turn the team into something different.
Anytime you have two running backs basically back there, but
(20:06):
one of them can throw the ball ninety yards, it
does change things. And so unfortunately this week I have
to go Baltimore Ravens twenty four, Minnesota Vikings seven hundred
and eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's a little closer than I thought you would have it. Yeah,
I just don't. I know he's back. I've got Baltimore
at seventeen. Okay, Vikings at one hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, all right, who you got for player? Well, player,
I'm going the Van Gank. You're going ganky, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna break it down in a little different
way though. I'm gonna go three tackles for loss, and
then I'm going either sack or pick.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, one of the two. So a lot of a
lot of impact plays.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He's going to be in the backfield. Yeah, yeah, he's
gonna be in the backfield quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm gonna go that. I think I think we're on
the verge of one of those Justin Jefferson moments where
we go, oh my god, did you just catch fifteen
balls for one hundred and ninety some yards and a
few touchdowns. I said a few, a few touchdowns. That's three,
you see, it's a few. And so that is what
I'm going with. What's your Chad prediction.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Chad prediction is you're not going to be able to
wear your Minnesota frost stuff to this game. I understand
it's purple. I understand they've won the only two Cups
in professional women's hockey. You can't wear it this game
because the Ravens are also purple. So I'm predicting a
lot more Vikings wear at this game.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I'm going to predict that a lot of how
I behave on next week's program will ride on whether
or not the joy and emotions of what happened this
previous week can continue. Am I teetering because of other
stuff going on in my life?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And I need Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Hey, I'm surprised they didn't put spoiler alert in or
something like that. Of course you're teetering. I've never known
you not to be teetering. What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm the Teeter King.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, which, by the way, I've seen that movie and
it's different.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So thank you to everybody for joining from the Teeter
King and his teeter Queen Chad Daniels. We hope you
guys have a great game, and if you want to
hear the full conversation, make sure you check out our
Vikings Tailgate podcast feed on your favorite podcast app, and
while you're there, leave us a good review and the
comment it'll help us out find me. A huge shout
out to Ticketmaster, the official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings,
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for helping make this show happen. Enjoy the game, everybody
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