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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stop pe Mersage, analyst for the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network,
(00:35):
joins us from Twin Cities Orthopedic Performance Center. That's where
nine to noon will be tomorrow, and in fact, I'm
about twenty five hours from now. Viking's head coach Kevin
O'Connell will be chatting with us via x's and o's.
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Pete just a an open ended question here, just off
something Nordon and I were just discussing. Do you do
you think the Vikings should have a more put more
focus on a rushing attack or is that too broad
of a question to just lay it out like that
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without context?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And good morning, Good morning, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So it's a balance, right, and we know we've had
we've had the opportunity to watch this offense now for
a number of years and you were talking about it earlier.
Just what it was like the first year that Kevin
O'Connell's here. We threw the ball sixty two percent of
the time. I mean, that's our idea, that's that's our
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identity and offense, that's what Kevin O'Connell does that's what
this offense does. Is there aggressive, they attack, they get
down the field. That's what makes us unique. So the
question is what the It's the process then, so as
you are developing this young quarterback, Okay, this is where
we want to be, this is eventually what we want
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to get to, this is what we do.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What's the best way of getting there? Is the best
way of getting there?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Building a trying to build an unstoppable road game along
you know what I mean along the way, do we
change our identity for a while and say, okay, we
need to run the football. There's no question that running
the ball more is going to help JJ McCarthy right now.
Short term, it's going to help them long term, I
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don't know, but short term yes, because it's a lot
easier for a younger quarterback just turn around and hand
the football off. So that balance between run and pass.
We again, it's like, we know what our our identity
is and our deal is ideal, But how do we
get there in the fastest way? And you know, yes,
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I mean in the short term, running the football is
I mean we outrush Baltimore on a per rush basis,
which is which is crazy. We also had more yards
per you know, yards per completion, yards per play throwing
the football too by over a yard, so you know
it's there. It's the question of what kind of balance
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do you want and are we going to completely change
the identity of this offense so we can build back
into a vertical throwing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Passing game type of an offense.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And that's I guess that's the that's the development question,
and it's not an easy one to answer.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So off that and off what we've seen through everything
through nine games, well that, I mean, the Vikings absolutely
will win the next one. Why because like off the
terrible Chargers game, it seems they bounce back from legit
dol drums with big time efforts. So, I mean, who
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really would be surprised on the Bear? You know, the Bears.
I like the Ravens more than I like the Bears,
and the Ravens even beat the Bears earlier this year.
But uh, nevertheless, if that happens, I'm not going to
be surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What about you, it's definitely schizophrenic. I mean, there are
there are a couple of things that that that bothered
me in in the regard of playing at home. Okay,
playing at home should be you need to build an
advantage playing at home, and right now at this stage
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of the of the of the season, we've been playing
better on the road than we well, and I guess
we did play on the road in California. But one
and three at home, I mean, that's that's that's that's
that's tough. You know, these Bears, they're believing now. They've
had four games where they were behind inside of two
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minutes to go in the fourth quarter and come back
in one.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So they're believing.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
This isn't the Bears team that you know, you keep
it close and they fall apart in the fourth quarter
with false starts and with penalties and with you know
those kinds of things that they've changed. They they're they're
believing in themselves now. So I think we're gonna get
a more a more resolute Bears team coming in because
they're gonna look at this and say, they're getting back
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into the division games now, and this is you know,
this is a big one for them if they want
to try to take care of the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I expect him to play better, man, I mean, thirteen penalties,
I mean, you know, regardless of how young your quarterback is. Right,
those those pre snap penalties, I mean I looked it
up last night. We have we have thirty three. We
have as we have as many as any team in
the NFL. I think we're tied with with Miami, I believe,
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with pre snap penalties. So those things, the procedural stuff, right,
I mean, before the ball is snapped, that should be
that should be tight, that that should be the expectation.
Reality is, it may not be because your quarterback is
young and all that, but that should be a standard
right there that you can't and you won't you know,
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waiver on meaning if we don't take care of business
before the ball snap, how the hell are we going
to do it after it?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Is?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, So everybody needs to know snap count everybody and
just the process of everything. Even towards the end of
the game with the two minute situation and just that
didn't feel super clean, you know what I mean. It
takes a long time to build that. It's not easy
to do. We take for granted how easy some of
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these quarterbacks and what guys we've seen in the past,
and how easy.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
They make it look to run that operation.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So yeah, I think the demand to running the operation
being as good as possible is not out of.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
It.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Shouldn't You shouldn't waiver on that one as far as
the performance goes. And you know, the air mailing passes
late in the game. I mean, those are things that
need to be worked on.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Pete Bursua, journalist for the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network and KFAM.
Thanks to suit Cup Manufacturing and sue Cup dot Com.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
You know, it wasn't all negative yesterday, Pete, and just
fun moments of the game. And I just wanted your
insight on this in particular, very early on in the
festivities yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
This is the one hundred ninety ninth regular season game
for Harry the hit Man. Still going strong, isn't he?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Can I Lamar Jackson goes under center for I felt okay?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So I felt I felt awful about that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Why well, here's the thing, and this could be this
could be my mistaken I haven't a chance. Talked to
Paul Bob, but he mentioned Ben and as soon as
as soon as Paul talks that because he talks to
Abbott and says, I'm you know, I'm gonna go to
Ben here on this, and so that way, everybody behind
is all is all ready to go. And as soon
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as I hear Paul say I'm going to go to Ben,
I just turned my brain off and I start looking
at my notes and things about what, you know, what
I could talk about or what whatever, because it's going
to Ben. And then I hear him ask. I hear
him say my name, and I just assumed he you
made a mistake that you know, I mean, you meant
to say Ben. And that's me I you know, you
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you know the old saying, you assume something, you make
an ass out of you and me. And then I'm
sitting there going I'm waiting, and I'm waiting. I'm like, hey,
Ben's not answering, what the hell? And I'm thinking where
it's like weird, Yeah, did he not hear it? And
then I'm thinking maybe I should jump in, And by then,
you know, obviously we're three four seconds into the awkward silence.
And so my apologies to UPA and all the listeners
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who come on.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's what you wanted, right, that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I want you to Gnorido could not stop texting me
during the game, by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
After it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Why, Because we're a family and surrogate brothers and cousins
tease each other. In fact, if you just jumped into
nine to noon on this Monday, what are we talking about? Well,
a moment from early in the game yesterday. This is
the one hundred ninety ninth regular season game for Harry
the hit Man.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Still going strong, isn't he?
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Pete?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I love it. That might have been. That might have
been my best commentary I've ever done.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
I'm like Lamar Jackson, jump five down. Well, then the
next after the next playoff. Sorry about a minute ago there, Paula. Anyway,
Justice Hill.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, let's uh and and let's make it fight to
fairness and duo act with Pete and I because there
are things that have taken place that this is an
emotional game for all of us.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And you know, we neither one.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Of us are team employees, but you know we're We
travel with the team, we stay with the team. We
like a lot of people within the organization. Shoot, we
want him to win every single game. Nordo's the surrogate
to that with us, and he legitimately cares. So we
get a little wound up at times. Well, the last
couple of weeks, I've just kind of lost my mind
a little bit. I got frustrated at Ford Field when
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I think it was the Isaiah No, it was the oh,
the push off on Jamison Williams. Thank you, Jamison Williams
push off. We're inside Ford Field. They kept showing the
replay but cutting it off at the push off, and
they did it three times, and I freaked out, and
I'm like, you know, I'm basically I didn't say, hey,
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detroit Lyons ops in house, ops, you frauds, but I'm like,
you guys are frauds. Well, you just show the right
freaking replay here.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So I lost my mind a little bit on that.
Two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And yesterday we had a Roquan Smith moment where I
thought he went stuff on Gilmore on Aaron Jones.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Would you like to hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
The way Gilmore went Gilmore on Justin Jefferson and two?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I felt bad about this.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
McCarthy facing a four man rush, steps away from the
pressure to the left. Now he pumps throws left incomplete
by the way, probably Rokwan Smith just decapitated Aaron Jones.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
What's that full doing?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Were you kidding?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Me with that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean it was a mile away from the ball. Yeah,
I lost my mind.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The crowd, well, the crowd didn't help Paul Yep. Well yeah,
I mean, but yeah, I understand that. But I mean
I have my binoculars on it. I saw Jones's head
go back hard, like whiplash effect. Just pissed off the
way the game's going. Yeah, and Rokwan Smith, all right,
there's been some knucklehead factor with Rokwan Smith during the
course of his career with Chicago mostly, but you know
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what I mean, Roquan Smith had no right to catch
that verbal l yesterday with me being like, what's this
full doing?
Speaker 7 (11:53):
But in fairness though, about thirty seconds later, you're like, okay,
he shoved him and then he just kind of moved
Why now Okay, so I think I think survived.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I'm pulling a movie on all that, man, I mean,
I just, yeah, that just can't happen. This is a
Pete Bursa jennaalist for the Vikings Radio Network. Thank you
Sue Cup Manufacturing and Sue Cup dot Com. Harrison Smith.
He's playing basically all the plays now, you know, Harry
the hit Man one one hundred ninety ninth regular season
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game for Harry the hit Man?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Still going strong, isn't he?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Pete?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Would you like to say what you didn't say yesterday?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Pete?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
With that put that in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
I mean Harrison Smith's Yeah, he's still going strong. And
I think he was a very important part of how
the Vikings defeated the Lions, and and and the looks
and I've talked about this before with you know, defenses
can make make it look like something but or or disguise,
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walk down on the line of scrimmage, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But a smart quarterback will know.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
If you're bluffing because it doesn't look like anything else
that you've done. And I think Harry can play that
second level type game where he knows that this what
we're what we're trying to do looks similar to a blitz.
And so I'm gonna show that other blitz. So the
quarterback see something that has been on tape. Okay, it's
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a bait and switch kind of thing, but the bait
has to be legit. You can't bait him with something
that they haven't seen if you have a smart quarterback.
So yeah, he's he's still Harry Still. I mean what
he I mean, what else are you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's still?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I think for Harry the most, he's the most versatile
safety in the league.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He has been for a long time. He can do everything.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
He can cover, he can tackle, he can blitz, you know,
I really you know, taking and watching Kyle Hamilton and
seeing what they're doing with him in Baltimore reminds me
a lot of what the Vikings had done and have
done with Harrison Smith. And so to see Kyle Hamilton
kind of his career evolved from being a pure cover
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type safety to now he's down in the box, he's
playing the run, he's he's blitzing off the edges quite
a bit. He's you know, he's doing all He's getting
around the quarterback, doing all those things.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
There aren't many guys in the league that can do that.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Because when when Harrison Smith comes down to the line
of scrimmage, you have to respect him because he's that good.
He can blitz, he can you know. We remember the
the game in Carolina, I believe it was two seasons ago,
and he had two sacks in one game, and one
of which he basically, uh power, you know, power rush
bull rushing offensive linemen. I mean, not many safeties can
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do that. So uh yeah, to see you know, to
see Harry out there and then Kyle Hamilton, it was
kind of It was great because you're seeing kind of
not the passing of the torch, but a guy who's set,
who's kind of set the road or set the table
for a guy like Kyle Hamilton and what you can
do with a versatile safety, and you know they're they're
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definitely doing that. I think Zach Orr during the buye,
the defensive coordinator for Baltimore during the bye, kind of
put all that in motion and said, we got a
Lohi Gilman. Now we can let him run around in
the back end, and we're going to take and make
Kyle Hamilton kind of the Josh Mattelis or Harrison Smith
of this defense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And it's working well for him.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
They've definitely turned things around, especially in the turnover department.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Hey, Pete, I didn't pay a ton of attention yesterday
as I was looking at false starts and just looking
at the kid QB, et cetera. I got this a
lot in fan line and didn't know really how to
answer it. Was there did you feel from from your
vantage point, was there something off with with Jefferson yesterday?
I mean you got seven seven catches on twenty three
targets between Jefferson and Addison, so that that looks ugly
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on paper, But I just saw people, you know, whether
he didn't he didn't run back and try and chase
down Malachi Starks, just kind of lack of lack of
jump or juice at certain times. Great ball by in
a tough one to catch, but a great ball by
McCarthy into the end zone goes right through his arms.
Just any thoughts on number eighteen yesterday.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I don't think he looked uh, he looked himself.
We have a very high standard for what we see
out of Justin Jefferson on a weekly basis. And I
can't sit here and say that once the ball was
snapped until the whistle blew, that there was that there
was a ton of difference. But afterwards, what you know,
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kind of the walking and some of the some of
the other things that you saw. Yeah, I mean I
would I'd be interested to know, you know, what the
deal is or what's going on or or you know,
if he's a little if he's a little nicked up
playing through something. We'll never know that because they won't
tell us and they shouldn't. But there's, yeah, there's something
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he's either playing through right now or that's how it
appeared to me, right and that could change, that could
obviously change this Sunday. I don't know, uh, but yeah,
there again, I think it's it's a it's a situation
where we you know, we don't sit here and uh,
you know, go well, Eric Wilson was a little bit
off today, or Dwight mcglotherin man he was, He's just.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
A little bit. We watched JJ.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He is the focal point of the defense. He's a
focal point of what we do, and so we watch
him extremely closely. And that's yeah, And so I I
agree with you know there there's there's there. There was something,
you know, and it could be the normal course of
a season and in the wear and tear and all
those things. But we'll we'll see, as you know, as
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as Chicago rolls in here, we'll see how how he
looks this weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Thank you, my brother, see you soon, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
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Speaker 7 (18:51):
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(19:13):
all your support and Minnesota Vikings losing twenty seven to
nineteen yesterday. And We've talked about the kid QB a lot,
but I'm curious what your thoughts are on how we
move forward, how we handle things when we have situations
like this.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh, there's the loop kit. Here comes Miles Price to
the five ten fifteen. He dropped the ball at the
twenty two yard line. Miles Price second fumble this year
at the twenty two may give the Ravens the ball
and very good field position after they just grabbed the lead.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a scrum, scrum, it's a scrum.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Three officials in there to establish who has the ball.
Miles Price fumbled at the twenty two to twenty three
Ravens ball from Miles.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Three and the take every You're kidding here? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I'm not kidding you. That was the first to two fumbles.
By the way, I think he ran in was it?
Tyler Baddie yeah, potentially who in a friendly fire? Yeah,
while blocking another person knocked the next kickoff out of
his hands. Yesterday I had a little bit of avalanche.
It had a little bit of just when it rains,
it pours, whatever cliche you want to use. It was
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like Saturday morning freaking football follies with the false starts, Tony,
I think we had four in the fourth quarter alone,
I mean half like, Okay, we changed cadence, we did this,
we adjusted, and then we had four of them in
the final frame at any rate.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean the bomb the cheap shots are just coming
from all over the place.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You just unfurled one. It was, I've unfurled a bunch.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's fantastic, right Why because it only hurts when we laugh?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, now, Johnny the mouse Nicholson, captain of the eighty three,
why is that a club hockey team, a formidable club
hockey team, and the mouse wore the sea? He texted me,
I got seats on the twenty yard line, row twelve
for the Bears game. Should I where my synthetic gortex
receiver gloves in case a ball flies up there? Kind
of like a baseball game, John, that's too much, honey,
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Come on, he's a kid.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh kind of brilliant though, Yes, just so you know,
ladies and gentlemen, first five rows, end zone side. Just
keep your head on a swivel. That's all I would
suggest for now. Keep your head on the swivel. As
the kid QB continues to improve. I believe that's a
total of three fumbles this year after yesterday for mister Price.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, and it just.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Feels I don't know where your head's at on this,
but it's like week to week. It's like last week
you had Tavier Thomas stealing Miles Price is lunch money.
He gets the kickut return touchdown called back. You have
these issues. I mean, I wonder if Kobe King actually
got waived specifically because he went through that stretch with
all those special teams penalties. You kind of right the
ship and then you get the fumbles like Miles Price.
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Is there a lack of trust there or do you
think that you know, just bite those two fumbles. You're
rolling into that Bears game saying we gave you this opportunity,
you took it by the horns. You just bleeped up
at a high level. Yeah, don't do that. Ever again,
you're still our guy, Boom. I think you nailed it.
And is that probably that easy?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, I don't even think. I don't even think it's
a talker.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I think the talker will be Matt Daniels or or
Dallman the assistant or somebody you know, just like looking
at it closely and like being, hey, do this and
do that with how you're holding it and juking and
stuff like that, because they're going to remember, and it's
not inconveniently because it happened. It's reality. Yeah, two games
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ago he had five kick returns for thirty three per
and like Nordo said, he busted one for ninety and
change to the house, but thirty seven brought it back. Now,
if thirty seven doesn't do what thirty seven does, he
doesn't get to the house, so that all plays into it.
But still the ones that counted five of them for
thirty three per So the undrafted kit from Indiana is again.
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Raising kids has its challenges personally and professionally, but there
also are rewards, and there are rewards that are great
for those who want to go bytes. I tried to
quote a song by Prince called The Latter and I.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Messed it up.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Oh vikes bites, Thank you thousand hills. If we were
doing Nordo's numbers, Yeah, okay, Nordo's numbers. Here's a number
from the game that is interesting, John Bonus and company.
Tom Zone coverage. You guys do terrific work. Thank you
Zone Coverage. If I was going to do a number,
and I know I'm trying hard. Team loss yesterday, Teams
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four and five, Kid QB throws a pick. Maybe you
should have just run for the first down. Kid throws
another pick and j Justin Jefferson falls down and it's
Humphrey and it's easy. Okay, a lot of negative things.
Totally get it. However, in his first start, JJ McCarthy
was sacked three times. In his second start, he was
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sacked six times. Oh, hurts his ankle, he's gone forever.
Comes back. We got to golf a handful of times.
They got to our guy a handful of times. Need
the kid to take fewer sacks yesterday? Just one sack.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
One sack of a kid. Can I provide some context? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The Baltimore Ravens entered the game with eleven sacks time
for second fewest in the national Football League.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Next it was eleven to the gaps.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I mean seeing that that's just again when we crack wise,
when we get a little on the negatory side, that's
because we are talking out things on our therapeutic devenport
of love. That's age old with nine to noon or
ten to one just for fun. Yes, that's what we're
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doing off kind of like what you just said there,
and that further frustrates yours truly and probably the con
when you recognize that sacked one time. However, at halftime
it's ten to nine, and I mean, you know, I'm
going to my chill spot at halftime. Got you know
somebody walks in there every single week with whom I
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and we chat. We got everybody with the Bikings Audio Network,
and I'm like, wow, they're playing really really well in
all facets of the game, all facets of the game,
all fastest. And then they played the second half, and
they played the second and now we're using Diana Ross
and the Supremes with sta in the name of love,
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and we got a litany and a laundry list of
things that need to stop.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Okay, let me try one more thing, just a positive
moment and it was early, and it'll get lost in
the shuffle. That fade to Naylor. If one of the
high if one of whoever your version of the highest
of the high end at the position is in the
league when they make that throw, if it's Colin Worth
in primetime, or it's potentially sweet Nectar down on the
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fox in case, if it's Dan Miller, and yes, sir
from the analyst, you're saying good.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Things about this Gala Williams this year Minnesota one of
one on third down, two receivers right, three left, empty backfield,
McCarthy wearing the nine, facing a four man rush.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's gonna pay left.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
To Dalen Naylor cut at the forty, then a raven
blue and tackle, stiff park by Dler at the thirty,
Follos to its twenty quins to the ten down at
the five, hey sixty two yard catch and run by
the speedy Dylan Naylor.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
What nice trimming. Whoever put those highlights together yesterday, we'll see.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Then.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I got pissed off from the third quarter because he
never was in the game.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
He's raight case good.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Where was he?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Right?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, so anyway, well.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I mean he led the team and catches yesterday five
for a buck twenty four in that late score. Another
nice throw let toe tapper backside of the end zone.
Not every throw the kid QB made yesterday was a disaster.
Not every decision he made put the team in peril,
specifically early and then in well you had again you
had to dig deep and the producers trying hard. There
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were good moments yesterday from number nine that we must
appreciate and then now just need to see fewer of
the sales, more of the good moments. Against Chicago and
you're five and five.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
If they run on that third and one, they win
by twenty one. I always love that one. That's the
bottom line.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I mean, there's so much that took place in all
the whole game, all the plays and everything, just at
one moment they run on that third and one. I
always loved that one. They went by multiple score. See
you laughed, Yes I did. That's what nine to Noon
is here to do. The surrogate young Parker Fox just
walked into the studio all negative and everything off the
Vikings game, and we cracked that joke and the kid smiles.
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It is one big therapeutic inport of love. We're all
on it right now, we're all outstretched, we're all trying
to make each other laugh before we beat the Bears.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
And as we continue to move on through Nine to Noon,
pumped up to talk about Gophers at Oregon this weekend,
looking for more positivity.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
And it's PJ Fleck, coach of the team, who joins
nine to Noon Weekly And that's next. PJ Fleck, he
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is coach of the Golden Gophers football team. He's nice
enough to join this radio show with yours, Shirly, Paul
Allen and Parker Fox joins for this part of the
conversation and a marathon segment at eleven and the Pj's
Golden Gophers back off of BBE and first they get
seventh ranked ore agaon in the Ducks out Eugene Way
and the head coach joins us. Now, PJ, Paul Allen
(28:58):
and Parker, what was good for you and the gang
during the bye time?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
And good morning, Hey, good morning to you as well, Pa,
thanks for having us on the show.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Good morning the Parker. You know the big thing we
wanted to hit on our three things.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
We wanted to continue to get our football team as
healthy as possible and that's mentally, physically and emotionally. Our
guys work really hard, sacrificed a lot always in the
training room and they're here constantly, So get everybody a
little bit time away refresh, but then also keep them
really healthy when we practice. Get a lot of the
young guys reps too. It was more of a process audit,
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how are we doing, where are we at after six
straight games? What do we have to get better at?
Systematic approaches, offense, defense, special teams, kind of do an
audit of ourselves, and then you go back and number
three was all about response. We just got to continue
to respond here down the stretch. Played some really good
football teams, done really well at home on the road,
played some really good defenses and top five defenses in
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the country, and I got to find a way to
play a little bit better on the road.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
A great challenge for us this week going out to Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And there are two on the road with Oregon and Northwestern.
Then Bucky is here to close things. Like PJ just
intimated or referenced, the Gophers are six to zero at
Huntingdon Bak Stadium this season, and that six game winning
streak at home is the longest since winning the first
six there in twenty nineteen, and that season is also
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the last time the Gophers won their first six home
games in a season. PJ overall sixty four and forty
two and nine seasons with the Gophers, and that's a wonderful,
wonderful record. Now you get undoubtedly a very tough Oregon team.
These Ducks allow one hundred and twenty six passing yards
a game, Holy cow, which is tops in FBS. What
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makes that rush and cover for Oregon so stout?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, first of all, they're just really really talented. They've
They've done a great job of acquiring some of the
best talent in the country. I think that's you know,
that's that's not a secret to anybody. But it's another
thing to have the talent. It's another thing to develop
and coach the talent and get all that talent playing.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Really well together.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I think that's what Dan Lanning is really really good at.
He deserves a lot of credit not just for the
type of team he has, but connecting that team. They
play so well bottom up, top down. They're very well connected.
They play and sink as eleven is one, but they
are very very very good. I mean this is probably
when you look.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
At the teams. Some of the teams we played.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
We played at top five defense, number one defense in
Ohio State. We played top five defense in Iowa, and
then a top five defense again here at the Oregon
and they have a lot of things in common. I mean,
they work really well as all eleven. They got a
lot of experience, they're really really talented, they tackle well,
their twitchy, they're all long, they can all run. But
this is a tremendous challenge for us, and then again
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we haven't handled that necessarily well at times. But we've
got to continue to grow up, continue to mature, and
continue to find ways to do the simple things way better.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So it's going to be back with you this morning.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Obviously, I'm curious from a scouting standpoint, you and Oregon
both just played Iowa. How much do you and your
staff look at specific games like that and compare them
or is that something only really us fans kind of
like to do.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit more of a
fan piece.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
We were out of that game so fast, I mean
within eight offensive plays, I think we were.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Down twenty four to nothing. So I mean you're talking.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
There's everything that could have went wrong went wrong, and
it went wrong so early that I think it's really
hard to even look at that tape and say, Okay, well.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Here's what we did well.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Here's what we didn't do well, because it was really
bad really quickly, and really good for them really quickly.
So but when you do look at it, you look
at more matchups, Parker, you look at more of the
individual matchups because you do assess the talent of both teams.
You do have breakdowns, you do have depth charts, and
then you break that down in terms of a personnel standpoint,
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and I think you take those things. But again, I mean,
there's a really good football team. There's a really good
team that we're playing. It's one of the best teams
in the country for a reason, and we're going to
have to play really.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Really well.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
PJ Flag, coach of the Golden Gophers football team, joins
nine to now, your quarterback Drake Lindsay in the very
formative stages of not only his collegiate career, but who
knows where it'll go from there during the course of
your elongated head coaching run, PJ. Whether it's here Western
Michigan when it comes to raising the gifted. So Drake
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clearly is gifted, but just like so many who start
at a high level at that key position, experience is
required to work through things.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
What's that like?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What are some head coaching keys when you have gifted
players who are making mistakes because they lack experience getting
through that.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
We got to love to fail.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
And I know that sounds crazy, but we define failing
as growth and fail you're as quit.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Those are two different words.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
We need our players to want to fail. Our job
as coaches is to get him to fail and get
him to respond to that sailing constantly. And I think
that's what Drake's really good at. On Sundays, you can't
really tell with Drake whether we won or lost. He
just wants to grow. I think I said this last
week and Pam, I'm not sure if you heard me
talk about this, but you when you talk about playing Drake,
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when you're playing a freshman as a head coach, you
make a decision, and whether that's a rookie or whether
that's a freshman, you make a decision as a head
coach to play a really young, inexperienced player.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
You know, there's going to be highs and lows.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Now the fans might not agree with that or want that,
but there's going to be some really good moments and
there's going to be some really really hard moments. But
you can't get the steps. The steps to becoming an
elite player are the steps.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
And so you can't get those steps.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
You got to go through those, and you better be
prepared with that as a head football coach and the
starting quarterback. When you go through that, there have to
be an understanding that this is going to happen. But
when we have those times, the response is going to
be critical. And I've absolutely loved Drake's response, and that's
what shows me he's going to be such a great
player is because of his response that it's not a
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reaction based on what society thinks, it's based on an
internal response that he has that he's going to grow,
change and get.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Better with time.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hey, PJ, how is recruiting going? And how much can
you discuss because I'm playing off the social media machines
here seeing like this person's at a game and this
person commits or the verbals or all that, Like, how
it seems like it's going really well, but I don't
want to put you in a weird spot.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
How much can you discuss?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, it's interesting with recruiting because somebody asked me how's
recruiting going, I said, we last me in three years,
and then I'll tell you how it went, because you
never really know. But I do think this is one
of our bestest, not the best class we put together.
Even over the last week, seven commitments and committed to us.
We are really busy in the bye week with recruiting,
and I thought our staff did a really good job.
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I don't think anybody talks or the program. I hate
to use the word sell the program, but that's the
way I have to describe it. That more than the players,
and our players do such an outstanding job of talking
about play our program.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
Talking to people about this is exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I mean, if you're up for this, great, If you're
not up for this, don't come here. And our players do.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Such a great job.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
But I think this is probably our best class you've
ever had when you look at it from top to bottom,
and that's where you want to be, you know, nine
years into your tenure here and our staff and players
deserve a lot of credits to that.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Okay, Now this potentially is a dumb question, but when
when you Okay, so they're still in high school. So
I mean, is it like a fore gone conclusion it's closed,
or do you still have to sweat a little bit
until we actually get them here?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Oh no, we have.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Twenty three days till signing days, so absolutely you're going
to sweat all the way to getting there and then
the portal opens and then you got to look at that.
So there's a whole point of that in early January now,
which is a two week window, which is only one
window now, which helps. But you just ever know how
that shapes up with your football team and who comes
after him. So we all know that kind of goes
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on in college football, and we got to do everything
we can to I think, what's what we do. We
create a great experience for people who want to be
a part of that life program on the field, off
the field, and takes a special person to want to
be a part of that. And instead of just chase
a logo or chase money.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So part of being a college coach these days legitimately
is also constantly recruiting within your walls, making sure those
you want to stay, emphasis on those you want to
stay stay right.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, I wouldn't even call it recruiting. I think it's
just creating an experience from top to bottom academically, athletically,
socially and spiritually that people don't want to trade for something,
and simply that we create an experience that for the
majority of the time we have one of the top
protension rates in the country that players really like being
a part of.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Are we perfect?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
No, But I think that when you create an experience
that really is a little different than most collegiate experiences
right now, I think it gravitates to your players and
allows them to say, I could be the best person
I could be and play and make money and do
it all, and I don't have to go risk that
and go somewhere where maybe I'm being sold something that's
not necessarily true. So I think we do a really
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good job of still creating a collegiate experience in this
new NIL portal slash if you want to call it
professional like type atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I appreciate the conversation. My brother safe travels well chat
next week, all.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Right, look forward to it. Robot Kaimago Gophers is go by.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Thanks yes, Sir, Seal Letter. PJ.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Fleck, coach of the Golden Gophers football team. Weekly nine
to noon pea box sticks around. We mix up the
topics after that