January 8, 2025 • 22 mins
A couple short segments with some audio of DC Brian Flores and OC Wes Phillips before we wrap the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome back, died de new Let's transition to.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What do you got?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Let's do some vis bights and I got some coordinator
corner style.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Audio vikes bites. I have the game calling jeth chart
for the Vikings and Rams from week eight. Oh you
do looking back at it? Just some things that like
do you remember? And I might have put this in
the final call. With a win, Sean McVeigh becomes the
winning coach in the history of Rams football with eighty wins,
(00:43):
passing John Robinson. So we were on the wrong side
of McVeigh becoming the winning as coach in the history
of a team. Historical consequence, Kyron Williams had twenty five
scrimmage touchdowns in the last two seasons, most in the
National Football League. Their kicker something called Ethan Evans. Oh,
(01:06):
that's the punter, but he kicks off at that point
twenty nine kicks, twenty nine touchbacks. Tyler Johnson Minneapolis North
High School goes crazy. Number one Gophers all time leader
in receiving yards and one hundred yard games. A Ron
thinks we put the wrong first name on the game
(01:28):
calling depth chart under Johnson. It should be Ron, not Tyler. Okay, Ron,
We're just kidding. We love you. Big smile please. Cooper
Cup had been out for a consecutive with an ankle
injury and he's only played every game two times in
his career. And then you get to Pooka nakuwa. Damn,
just gonna be a cool game. Question is where's it
(01:49):
going to be?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Absolutely, this is Vikes Bites over the next couple of
segments with some coordinator audio. Vikes Bites is brought to
you by Thousand Hills Lifetime Grazed Grass fedf You can
shop online a box and meat shows up at your doorstep,
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(02:12):
Brian Flores addressing the media yesterday. Here he is talking
about being pleased to to be mentioned among NFL head
coaching opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Anytime you're mentioned in you know, these kind of head
coaching conversations or or receiver requests or you know, so
it's an honor, you know, certainly that definitely don't take
that lightly. And look, I look forward to having those
conversations talking to people about my my football journey and
my leadership journey.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, indeed, and he says, you know, anybody that calls, uh,
he's open to taking any INTERNET.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Plan on taking them all. I plan on you know,
sitting down and having conversations with any team that's interested
in talking to me about about that position. You know,
I look forward to talking to people about, you know,
my my football journey, and when that time comes, I'll
do that. But you know, again that's I don't think
I'm even loud to talk to anyone until next week.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So really the focus is kind of the RAMS and
then finally on the coaching front at least he you know,
those Patriots though they got an opening.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Look, I mean, that's we're talking about going home or
where it all started.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think that's a place that's got definitely a special place,
a special place in my when I talk about my
football journey, that's where it started. So I would say yes,
But you know, at the same time, that's not up
to me as to whether or not they would want
to talk to me or anything like that. So it's
kind of my thought on that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, your thoughts on the coaching situation you kind of
mentioned it is. I believe that is the rule. Indeed,
after divisional or into divisional week, etcetera, he's got to
wait some time before he can physically speak to anybody. Yep,
there are other teams. I mean, the Bears are already
getting after it. They've already been shut down by the Cowboys.
How about the Cowboys protecting McCarthy. By the way, when
you saw that headline, I did not make you chuckle.
(03:52):
I kind of laughed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yes, so not.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But but they are going after Pete Carroll. Apparently that
the Bears are Joe Brady, that's Buffalo Bill's OC. Mike
vrabel is in the mix. How about Drew Petsing, former
former Vikings assistant. It sounds like that's gonna be his
first and coaching opportunity and interview voc for the Cards
and mister Gannon down there in az what if?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
What if Stefanski has a limb? It's for Drew to
be involved in this. As I shared in passing yesterday,
Kevin Warren, the team president for the Bears, remembers Drew here. Drew,
I believe it's from Middlebury College. He is a he's
a whiz he's a mathematician. He is a very even
(04:39):
keeled and calm individual. He's very, very smart. And I
said it during the year last year. I think mostly
when when I'm arguing the difference between fantasy and reality
with Paul Charchi and would transpire at a Buffalo wild
Wings near you, is like he looked at Kyler Murray's
numbers and be like, my mind, I'd be like, well, actually,
he's having the best sea of his career and here's why.
(05:02):
And Drew had a lot to do with that. The
calm of working with Kyler Murray and the fact that
Kevin remembers him from here and just how impressive he is,
I think has landed him a head coaching job. I'm
not going to make him favor to win it. I'd
make Mike Vrabel the prohibitive potentially soon to come off
the board favorite to win the head coaching job for
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the New England Patriots. And you know, good for Brian Flores,
who did not get a sniff last year when it
comes to head coaching opportunities, even though he's been a
head coach in the NFL before and did a pretty
good job. And his defense even last year opened eyes
at times. They are just a couple of things working
(05:45):
against Brian. One. He's a defensive minded head coach. A
lot they just don't get hired that much anymore, defense
first head coaches. The last one who was like that
to get hired was Gerrod Mayo, and he lasted one
season him. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Now, I think that's because Bob even Antonio Pearson in
Las Vegas. I guess both both of them won and done.
Why he had the interim. Pierce did in in Vegas
but didn't work.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And and and so therefore, you know, with Floras you
got that in that. You know people, you got O'Connell,
floor McVeigh, next level Shanny, so on and so on,
Mike McDaniel for the Dolphins. Uh. They you know, they
are offensive first, offensive minded coaches, and those are the
ones getting hired. Secondly, Brian and others Brian at Tall
(06:36):
are suing the National Football League, and there might be
multiple suits. So, I mean, you know, it's it's it's
unfair to say. In fact, it's basically saying the race
is fixed to say, Okay, well, the owner of the
the the McCaskey family, all right, so you're gonna hire
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Brian Floras, and then you got to tell Roger Goodell,
who's being sued by Flores. It's just a weird situation,
it is. I just don't think it. I don't think
it play. You know, I'd like to say, go ahead
and hire him and expect seventy five percent of the
penalties in every game to go against you the rest
of your life. But I'm telling you right now that
stuff's real. Some of that stuff's real. Like after the
(07:18):
New England Patriots won a Super Bowl and Matt Patricia
had been hired as head coach of the Detroit Lions,
he got off the team plane landing in Massachusetts in
Boston with the shirt opened up his suit coat, and
he has a picture of Roger Goodell with a clown nose.
All right. Well, within his first handful of games, if
(07:40):
you just go back and look at him, there was
a nationally televised game, it might have been Monday Night Football,
where there were the most obvious things in the world
that just weren't going the way of the old kiddies. No,
Matt Patricia just couldn't get into go his way. That's uh.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You may have also just been a bad coach.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Too. Well, there's no doubt, there's able I'm saying. What
I'm saying is I can't prove it, and I don't
even like saying it because it's casting an dispersion with
really something I can't prove. But on the other side,
it I would need somebody to disprove it for me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, I also think I think you would be denying
humanity if you didn't think that these things played give
an inevitable part of any conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Price perfect segue, I mean ideal ten of ten, having
no idea where my third point was going to go, Well,
if Brian is being interviewed by the Bears and or
other teams because he's black and they are servicing the
Rooney Rule, shame on you. And I've debated that with
white and black people in the past before, because it
does happen. The spirit of the Rooney Rule was originated
(08:46):
to give people an opportunity to get jobs. Yep, all right,
So I'll just never forget man into the two thousand
and seven season. You know, it doesn't matter who told
it to me. But so Mike Tomlin going to go
interview with the Pittsburgh Steelers, all right, And I had
some people say to me that basically he has no shot.
It's the satisfaction of the Rooney roll, which really is
(09:08):
the first time that I'd heard that, and I'm kind
of like, wow, Wow, that's awful. I mean, I'm not
going to say that happens, no, but that's awful. Sure. Well,
Tomlin went back there supposedly with no shot and won
the job. He won the job. Yeah, Like, I don't
think the Rooney's brought him back, being like your favorite
to win the job. He went in there and killed
everybody with his interview, and here we are, what twenty
(09:33):
years nearly twenty years later, eighteen years later, he has
a ring, and he's still the coach of the team. So,
you know, whether it's the whether it's the spirit of
the Rooney rule, or the obligation to interview X amount
of minorities or blacks or whatever, it's, it's you know,
some people wag their finger at it and they're like,
(09:53):
you know, just how obviously one sided, duplicitous, and agree
just it is. I'm actually on the other side simply
because it's like I don't care how I get into
that race, how I get into that winner circle. I'm
gonna go Mike Tomlin on it. So they brought me
in here for whatever the reason, and they have an agenda. Okay,
(10:15):
it's my job to win, and it gives people opportunity
to win. Just ask Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
One more from Flores and then and then we got
a break here. He is back on the football side
of things, specifically with the Vikings. They were caught off
guard when Pooka played.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We had seen a little bit of them from the
previous year, but you know, not much you know this year,
so it was a little bit of a scrambling too.
So as he was involved early, we know he's gonna
be out there now this time out. You know, we'll
we'll do a better job or I'll do a better
job of making sure our guys are prepared.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
From that standpoint, you know, maybe maybe I shouldn't be
I shouldn't be shocked by this at all. But both
Kevin O'Connell yesterday with you and then he kind of
transitioned to, you know, the the idea now it's playoffs.
Everyone's hands have been dealt, you know, everyone's cards have
been dealt face up. But both him and Flores were
very for on the forefront about this, like, we had
(11:10):
no freaking idea that Pookah was gonna play. We had
a vibe with Cooper being in the mix. But Pooka
rolls off the ir and they open up the practice
window and he's playing that day.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, and we did not.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And there's some admission and maybe some humility there that, Yeah,
we weren't exactly ready for that, and we had to
scramble in the in the defensive coordinator's words, no mysteries
this time around, right.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, And I mean whether chickanery was involved or not.
With Nikua. When when you open up player's practice window,
well that means the window previously was closed, right, which
means there was no practice. I just must have been
running around up you know, the beaches of southern California, Uh,
catching passes and going against defensive formations or running routes
(11:55):
that are a route tree that's ever changing on a
weekly basis. Because McVay is that good. Yeah, just must
have been that, you know, just must have been that.
But he played and he played well.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know what if last year in Jefferson team was different.
Kirk was healthy and everything, and on a short week
in a big game. Specifically, think about the personal matchups
between McVeigh and Kevin O'Connell, and that hamstring's good. JJ
doesn't need to go through two weeks of practice to
get you. Would we'd be we'd be lauding Kevin O'Connell
(12:26):
that he pulled the gotcha on his old ball coach.
Bringing JJ back from the hamstring on a dime goes
for ten and one fifty in a score.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, the Rams did nothing wrong, but the the the
percentage of a player having his practice window open the
day of a game and playing the whole game very small.
It's extremely minuscule and small if it's even ever happened before.
But uh, you know they're they're some novelow pushing uh
(12:56):
in this National Football League, and the Rams are about
as good as anybody doing it. We got a former
Ram on our staff. He'll push the envelope a little
bit with certain things during games. And we love our coach.
They love their coach, They love Pooka. We don't love Pooka,
and uh, one of the better ways to beat him
on Monday night would be what style, well, boom bank
(13:17):
ging Cole style. All right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Vikes Bites, Vikes Bites, Take two nine to noon, Thank you,
Thousand Hills. Wes Phillips also addressed the media Vikings offensive
coordinator hit you Hurd a bit of b flow last
segment from the defense to the offense. I think this
kind of fits with what we were talking about earlier,
maybe a KO conflict of sorts. But but take it
(13:49):
away West Phillips and members of the assembled media.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's what types of problems do Jared Verse and bread
and Face present them from.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
H two really good young players pass rush physical in
the run game, Fisk had some good plays against us
where you know, going into it, I think he'd been
banged up a little bit and and really felt like
that game and then you kind of watch some of
the tapes since our game is maybe kind of his
(14:21):
coming out party where he really started to cause some
problems inside. We had some good movement on some combinations
initially on him and his ability to kind of get
get grounded and shed guys and get in on some tackles.
Was pretty impressed by him the first go around, and
obviously Verse his ability to affect the quarterback. But again
(14:44):
I kind of have you know a little more disrespect
as a coach sometimes against a guy like that who's
got a lot of pass rush, but in the run game,
as far as setting edges and just being really physical
on the edge, he's a really good young player. I
think across the board they have a really good young
nucleus of players. The safeties, They've got a couple of
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corners that have played, you know, played some a lot
of ball, but the young safeties they have that front.
The way they've used Michael Hoyt ninety seven is a big, tough,
physical player who was there when I was there, and
the way they've used him to kind of in some
different packages, kind.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Of off the ball, on the ball, off.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The ball different places, has been really creative.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So they create some problems.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
They got a good, good young team.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Thank you to Wes Phillips. But that I do kind
of wanted to I want to bring that back to
not to make this too thematic, but the KO conflict
from earlier PA is the focus on what the Minnesota
Moving Company did or did not do effectively. The offensive
line Sunday night against those Lions, and this young athletic front,
I think that is more talented than what we saw
from the Lion agreed and how that combo works. And
(16:02):
you mentioned that the KO conflict. I'm curious whether it's
is it stubborn to do what you've done so well
throughout the year. Is it the adjustment to tight end
chipping or big full back in the mix? Is it
an overreaction because of what you saw? I mean, it's
the KO conflict into Sunday and how they handle those
(16:23):
names that you heard the OC flipping out their very
talented team and we got to keep Sam up right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I can't. I can't comment on the on the KO
conflict until seeing the game and seeing how it was
handled and to see what he does with personnel, because
again submitting and hoisting the white flag that you have
something I can't stop that. I mean, that's just it's
head coaches just aren't big on that. They try to
(16:50):
work around it different ways. Yep, but it's Wes. Wes
mentioned Braden Fisk and Jared Verse Byron Young in a
second year from Tennessee. Michael Hoyt completely agree with what
he's talking about. My man played football at Brown, but
like when you see him, it's like, holy cow, Wow,
where'd you come from? Alabama? Or Tennessee or Clemson or whatever.
(17:12):
He just me he's a very impressive looking guy. But
the best player on their defense is Kobe Turner, and
he wears ninety one. Into our game he had three sacks.
He had nine last year, second year from wake Forest,
third round pick in twenty twenty three, stole one. You
know they did, and props to less need you know less?
The man who runs the Rams really got under my skin.
(17:35):
I don't care if you play fantasy football. I don't
care if you trade all your picks, you trade for Stafford,
shortchange golf, bring in all these Jalen Ramsey mercenaries. I
couldn't care less what you do with your team. But
then at after winning the Super Bowl, they're at the
big party downtown Los Angeles and he basically is like,
f all of you, what do you think I'm not
(17:57):
having those draft picks now. I'm like, well, that's a
really really cool thing to say by a person in charge,
you know, a person of authority. But nevertheless, he's drafted
after that, and wow, holy cow is when they have picks, Hey, goon,
go ahead and trade him again. I mean Quinton Lake,
third year from UCLA. His father Carnell Lake was on
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the nineties All Decade Team, mostly for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Cam curl fifth year from Washington. He was an unrestricted
free agent. So when Wes said they got some experience
on the backside, Cam Curl's played a lot of games.
A Kello Witherspoon has played a lot of games. But
Kobe Turner is in his second year, Fisk and versa rookies,
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Christian Rose booms in his fourth year, Byron Young's in
his second year. I mean they yeah, they're doing a
great job with their drafting man, Ain't no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, the key Sam Sam was terrific to forty and two,
high completion percentage. The issue with this an issue we
saw earlier in the season. Hopefully it doesn't come to
fruition Monday night.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Not enough plays.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Only fifty plays on offense sixty six for the Rams. Yeah,
and that defensive front, that's right. How we can kind
of extend some drives and things like that. Yep, that
the that that cat and that that cat and mouse
game that changing you know that we know bit has
has never been more vital for mister O'Connell and mister Phillips.
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Welcome back, died de new Let's transition to.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What do you got?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Let's do some vis bights and I got some coordinator
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Audio vikes bites. I have the game calling jeth chart
for the Vikings and Rams from week eight. Oh you
do looking back at it? Just some things that like
do you remember? And I might have put this in
the final call. With a win, Sean McVeigh becomes the
winning coach in the history of Rams football with eighty wins,
(00:43):
passing John Robinson. So we were on the wrong side
of McVeigh becoming the winning as coach in the history
of a team. Historical consequence, Kyron Williams had twenty five
scrimmage touchdowns in the last two seasons, most in the
National Football League. Their kicker something called Ethan Evans. Oh,
(01:06):
that's the punter, but he kicks off at that point
twenty nine kicks, twenty nine touchbacks. Tyler Johnson Minneapolis North
High School goes crazy. Number one Gophers all time leader
in receiving yards and one hundred yard games. A Ron
thinks we put the wrong first name on the game
(01:28):
calling depth chart under Johnson. It should be Ron, not Tyler. Okay, Ron,
We're just kidding. We love you. Big smile please. Cooper
Cup had been out for a consecutive with an ankle
injury and he's only played every game two times in
his career. And then you get to Pooka nakuwa. Damn,
just gonna be a cool game. Question is where's it
(01:49):
going to be?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Absolutely, this is Vikes Bites over the next couple of
segments with some coordinator audio. Vikes Bites is brought to
you by Thousand Hills Lifetime Grazed Grass fedf You can
shop online a box and meat shows up at your doorstep,
local Coburn's locations as well local co ops and uh
Clearwater Minnesota company. They're all about local. They support Gophers athletics.
(02:12):
Brian Flores addressing the media yesterday. Here he is talking
about being pleased to to be mentioned among NFL head
coaching opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Anytime you're mentioned in you know, these kind of head
coaching conversations or or receiver requests or you know, so
it's an honor, you know, certainly that definitely don't take
that lightly. And look, I look forward to having those
conversations talking to people about my my football journey and
my leadership journey.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, indeed, and he says, you know, anybody that calls, uh,
he's open to taking any INTERNET.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Plan on taking them all. I plan on you know,
sitting down and having conversations with any team that's interested
in talking to me about about that position. You know,
I look forward to talking to people about, you know,
my my football journey, and when that time comes, I'll
do that. But you know, again that's I don't think
I'm even loud to talk to anyone until next week.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So really the focus is kind of the RAMS and
then finally on the coaching front at least he you know,
those Patriots though they got an opening.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Look, I mean, that's we're talking about going home or
where it all started.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think that's a place that's got definitely a special place,
a special place in my when I talk about my
football journey, that's where it started. So I would say yes,
But you know, at the same time, that's not up
to me as to whether or not they would want
to talk to me or anything like that. So it's
kind of my thought on that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, your thoughts on the coaching situation you kind of
mentioned it is. I believe that is the rule. Indeed,
after divisional or into divisional week, etcetera, he's got to
wait some time before he can physically speak to anybody. Yep,
there are other teams. I mean, the Bears are already
getting after it. They've already been shut down by the Cowboys.
How about the Cowboys protecting McCarthy. By the way, when
you saw that headline, I did not make you chuckle.
(03:52):
I kind of laughed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yes, so not.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But but they are going after Pete Carroll. Apparently that
the Bears are Joe Brady, that's Buffalo Bill's OC. Mike
vrabel is in the mix. How about Drew Petsing, former
former Vikings assistant. It sounds like that's gonna be his
first and coaching opportunity and interview voc for the Cards
and mister Gannon down there in az what if?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
What if Stefanski has a limb? It's for Drew to
be involved in this. As I shared in passing yesterday,
Kevin Warren, the team president for the Bears, remembers Drew here. Drew,
I believe it's from Middlebury College. He is a he's
a whiz he's a mathematician. He is a very even
(04:39):
keeled and calm individual. He's very, very smart. And I
said it during the year last year. I think mostly
when when I'm arguing the difference between fantasy and reality
with Paul Charchi and would transpire at a Buffalo wild
Wings near you, is like he looked at Kyler Murray's
numbers and be like, my mind, I'd be like, well, actually,
he's having the best sea of his career and here's why.
(05:02):
And Drew had a lot to do with that. The
calm of working with Kyler Murray and the fact that
Kevin remembers him from here and just how impressive he is,
I think has landed him a head coaching job. I'm
not going to make him favor to win it. I'd
make Mike Vrabel the prohibitive potentially soon to come off
the board favorite to win the head coaching job for
(05:24):
the New England Patriots. And you know, good for Brian Flores,
who did not get a sniff last year when it
comes to head coaching opportunities, even though he's been a
head coach in the NFL before and did a pretty
good job. And his defense even last year opened eyes
at times. They are just a couple of things working
(05:45):
against Brian. One. He's a defensive minded head coach. A
lot they just don't get hired that much anymore, defense
first head coaches. The last one who was like that
to get hired was Gerrod Mayo, and he lasted one
season him. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Now, I think that's because Bob even Antonio Pearson in
Las Vegas. I guess both both of them won and done.
Why he had the interim. Pierce did in in Vegas
but didn't work.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And and and so therefore, you know, with Floras you
got that in that. You know people, you got O'Connell,
floor McVeigh, next level Shanny, so on and so on,
Mike McDaniel for the Dolphins. Uh. They you know, they
are offensive first, offensive minded coaches, and those are the
ones getting hired. Secondly, Brian and others Brian at Tall
(06:36):
are suing the National Football League, and there might be
multiple suits. So, I mean, you know, it's it's it's
unfair to say. In fact, it's basically saying the race
is fixed to say, Okay, well, the owner of the
the the McCaskey family, all right, so you're gonna hire
(06:56):
Brian Floras, and then you got to tell Roger Goodell,
who's being sued by Flores. It's just a weird situation,
it is. I just don't think it. I don't think
it play. You know, I'd like to say, go ahead
and hire him and expect seventy five percent of the
penalties in every game to go against you the rest
of your life. But I'm telling you right now that
stuff's real. Some of that stuff's real. Like after the
(07:18):
New England Patriots won a Super Bowl and Matt Patricia
had been hired as head coach of the Detroit Lions,
he got off the team plane landing in Massachusetts in
Boston with the shirt opened up his suit coat, and
he has a picture of Roger Goodell with a clown nose.
All right. Well, within his first handful of games, if
(07:40):
you just go back and look at him, there was
a nationally televised game, it might have been Monday Night Football,
where there were the most obvious things in the world
that just weren't going the way of the old kiddies. No,
Matt Patricia just couldn't get into go his way. That's uh.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You may have also just been a bad coach.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Too. Well, there's no doubt, there's able I'm saying. What
I'm saying is I can't prove it, and I don't
even like saying it because it's casting an dispersion with
really something I can't prove. But on the other side,
it I would need somebody to disprove it for me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, I also think I think you would be denying
humanity if you didn't think that these things played give
an inevitable part of any conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Price perfect segue, I mean ideal ten of ten, having
no idea where my third point was going to go, Well,
if Brian is being interviewed by the Bears and or
other teams because he's black and they are servicing the
Rooney Rule, shame on you. And I've debated that with
white and black people in the past before, because it
does happen. The spirit of the Rooney Rule was originated
(08:46):
to give people an opportunity to get jobs. Yep, all right,
So I'll just never forget man into the two thousand
and seven season. You know, it doesn't matter who told
it to me. But so Mike Tomlin going to go
interview with the Pittsburgh Steelers, all right, And I had
some people say to me that basically he has no shot.
It's the satisfaction of the Rooney roll, which really is
(09:08):
the first time that I'd heard that, and I'm kind
of like, wow, Wow, that's awful. I mean, I'm not
going to say that happens, no, but that's awful. Sure. Well,
Tomlin went back there supposedly with no shot and won
the job. He won the job. Yeah, Like, I don't
think the Rooney's brought him back, being like your favorite
to win the job. He went in there and killed
everybody with his interview, and here we are, what twenty
(09:33):
years nearly twenty years later, eighteen years later, he has
a ring, and he's still the coach of the team. So,
you know, whether it's the whether it's the spirit of
the Rooney rule, or the obligation to interview X amount
of minorities or blacks or whatever, it's, it's you know,
some people wag their finger at it and they're like,
(09:53):
you know, just how obviously one sided, duplicitous, and agree
just it is. I'm actually on the other side simply
because it's like I don't care how I get into
that race, how I get into that winner circle. I'm
gonna go Mike Tomlin on it. So they brought me
in here for whatever the reason, and they have an agenda. Okay,
(10:15):
it's my job to win, and it gives people opportunity
to win. Just ask Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
One more from Flores and then and then we got
a break here. He is back on the football side
of things, specifically with the Vikings. They were caught off
guard when Pooka played.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We had seen a little bit of them from the
previous year, but you know, not much you know this year,
so it was a little bit of a scrambling too.
So as he was involved early, we know he's gonna
be out there now this time out. You know, we'll
we'll do a better job or I'll do a better
job of making sure our guys are prepared.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
From that standpoint, you know, maybe maybe I shouldn't be
I shouldn't be shocked by this at all. But both
Kevin O'Connell yesterday with you and then he kind of
transitioned to, you know, the the idea now it's playoffs.
Everyone's hands have been dealt, you know, everyone's cards have
been dealt face up. But both him and Flores were
very for on the forefront about this, like, we had
(11:10):
no freaking idea that Pookah was gonna play. We had
a vibe with Cooper being in the mix. But Pooka
rolls off the ir and they open up the practice
window and he's playing that day.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, and we did not.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And there's some admission and maybe some humility there that, Yeah,
we weren't exactly ready for that, and we had to
scramble in the in the defensive coordinator's words, no mysteries
this time around, right.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
No, And I mean whether chickanery was involved or not.
With Nikua. When when you open up player's practice window,
well that means the window previously was closed, right, which
means there was no practice. I just must have been
running around up you know, the beaches of southern California, Uh,
catching passes and going against defensive formations or running routes
(11:55):
that are a route tree that's ever changing on a
weekly basis. Because McVay is that good. Yeah, just must
have been that, you know, just must have been that.
But he played and he played well.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know what if last year in Jefferson team was different.
Kirk was healthy and everything, and on a short week
in a big game. Specifically, think about the personal matchups
between McVeigh and Kevin O'Connell, and that hamstring's good. JJ
doesn't need to go through two weeks of practice to
get you. Would we'd be we'd be lauding Kevin O'Connell
(12:26):
that he pulled the gotcha on his old ball coach.
Bringing JJ back from the hamstring on a dime goes
for ten and one fifty in a score.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, the Rams did nothing wrong, but the the the
percentage of a player having his practice window open the
day of a game and playing the whole game very small.
It's extremely minuscule and small if it's even ever happened before.
But uh, you know they're they're some novelow pushing uh
(12:56):
in this National Football League, and the Rams are about
as good as anybody doing it. We got a former
Ram on our staff. He'll push the envelope a little
bit with certain things during games. And we love our coach.
They love their coach, They love Pooka. We don't love Pooka,
and uh, one of the better ways to beat him
on Monday night would be what style, well, boom bank
(13:17):
ging Cole style. All right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Vikes Bites, Vikes Bites, Take two nine to noon, Thank you,
Thousand Hills. Wes Phillips also addressed the media Vikings offensive
coordinator hit you Hurd a bit of b flow last
segment from the defense to the offense. I think this
kind of fits with what we were talking about earlier,
maybe a KO conflict of sorts. But but take it
(13:49):
away West Phillips and members of the assembled media.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's what types of problems do Jared Verse and bread
and Face present them from.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
H two really good young players pass rush physical in
the run game, Fisk had some good plays against us
where you know, going into it, I think he'd been
banged up a little bit and and really felt like
that game and then you kind of watch some of
the tapes since our game is maybe kind of his
(14:21):
coming out party where he really started to cause some
problems inside. We had some good movement on some combinations
initially on him and his ability to kind of get
get grounded and shed guys and get in on some tackles.
Was pretty impressed by him the first go around, and
obviously Verse his ability to affect the quarterback. But again
(14:44):
I kind of have you know a little more disrespect
as a coach sometimes against a guy like that who's
got a lot of pass rush, but in the run game,
as far as setting edges and just being really physical
on the edge, he's a really good young player. I
think across the board they have a really good young
nucleus of players. The safeties, They've got a couple of
(15:09):
corners that have played, you know, played some a lot
of ball, but the young safeties they have that front.
The way they've used Michael Hoyt ninety seven is a big, tough,
physical player who was there when I was there, and
the way they've used him to kind of in some
different packages, kind.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Of off the ball, on the ball, off.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The ball different places, has been really creative.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So they create some problems.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
They got a good, good young team.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Thank you to Wes Phillips. But that I do kind
of wanted to I want to bring that back to
not to make this too thematic, but the KO conflict
from earlier PA is the focus on what the Minnesota
Moving Company did or did not do effectively. The offensive
line Sunday night against those Lions, and this young athletic front,
I think that is more talented than what we saw
from the Lion agreed and how that combo works. And
(16:02):
you mentioned that the KO conflict. I'm curious whether it's
is it stubborn to do what you've done so well
throughout the year. Is it the adjustment to tight end
chipping or big full back in the mix? Is it
an overreaction because of what you saw? I mean, it's
the KO conflict into Sunday and how they handle those
(16:23):
names that you heard the OC flipping out their very
talented team and we got to keep Sam up right.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I can't. I can't comment on the on the KO
conflict until seeing the game and seeing how it was
handled and to see what he does with personnel, because
again submitting and hoisting the white flag that you have
something I can't stop that. I mean, that's just it's
head coaches just aren't big on that. They try to
(16:50):
work around it different ways. Yep, but it's Wes. Wes
mentioned Braden Fisk and Jared Verse Byron Young in a
second year from Tennessee. Michael Hoyt completely agree with what
he's talking about. My man played football at Brown, but
like when you see him, it's like, holy cow, Wow,
where'd you come from? Alabama? Or Tennessee or Clemson or whatever.
(17:12):
He just me he's a very impressive looking guy. But
the best player on their defense is Kobe Turner, and
he wears ninety one. Into our game he had three sacks.
He had nine last year, second year from wake Forest,
third round pick in twenty twenty three, stole one. You
know they did, and props to less need you know less?
The man who runs the Rams really got under my skin.
(17:35):
I don't care if you play fantasy football. I don't
care if you trade all your picks, you trade for Stafford,
shortchange golf, bring in all these Jalen Ramsey mercenaries. I
couldn't care less what you do with your team. But
then at after winning the Super Bowl, they're at the
big party downtown Los Angeles and he basically is like,
f all of you, what do you think I'm not
(17:57):
having those draft picks now. I'm like, well, that's a
really really cool thing to say by a person in charge,
you know, a person of authority. But nevertheless, he's drafted
after that, and wow, holy cow is when they have picks, Hey, goon,
go ahead and trade him again. I mean Quinton Lake,
third year from UCLA. His father Carnell Lake was on
(18:21):
the nineties All Decade Team, mostly for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Cam curl fifth year from Washington. He was an unrestricted
free agent. So when Wes said they got some experience
on the backside, Cam Curl's played a lot of games.
A Kello Witherspoon has played a lot of games. But
Kobe Turner is in his second year, Fisk and versa rookies,
(18:42):
Christian Rose booms in his fourth year, Byron Young's in
his second year. I mean they yeah, they're doing a
great job with their drafting man, Ain't no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, the key Sam Sam was terrific to forty and two,
high completion percentage. The issue with this an issue we
saw earlier in the season. Hopefully it doesn't come to
fruition Monday night.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Not enough plays.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Only fifty plays on offense sixty six for the Rams. Yeah,
and that defensive front, that's right. How we can kind
of extend some drives and things like that. Yep, that
the that that cat and that that cat and mouse
game that changing you know that we know bit has
has never been more vital for mister O'Connell and mister Phillips.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The best way to win this game? Whoop them Ben
Ginkle style, don't leave. We think you'll like it. When
we returned to Kay, I'm lucky.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I can't wait until tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Go tomorrow, my very well be truly man. Producer Big
Daddy Khan put together a parody involving Andrew ben Ginkel,
e Egypt Fairness and Jeremiah Forrester Act. Friend of Mine
was an idea of his about a month ago. Gave
it to me. I gave it to Nordo because I
(19:56):
know what Nordo's capable of. And then we started thinking
about the RAMS game and we were like, what's the
best way to win? Well, it's this.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Foot Tankodacus on fire. It's vun Tinkle styles Ventinkle style.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
God.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
He threw it to Fan Ginkle touchdown and.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Bo fourth touchdown in Andrew Fenn Ginkle's career, and he
read Daniel Jones like a book. They put Rerupted and
they paid for it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Picked up by Fan.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Gikle near side of the fifty fun styline forty touchdown.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Forty threes hooting on that show. They didn't know now
they know.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Ruining there blows a sacred man broad every place, every day.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
It's Don Jinkle Star, don Kinkle Stock, don't care, it's
Don Kinkle Star. It's Don Kinkle Star, It's Don Kinkle Stars.
(21:35):
Drew then Ginkle, It's Don Jingle Star.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Fat producers getting tired moving in here in that side studio.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Come thank Gingkle style, Jinkle style, boo them baby style?
All right. Uh, we'll try to whoop them baby style
tomorrow with a Ben joining at ten o'clock. Uh, finchy,
finchy out of the gate is a probability and Rams
Vox JB. Long joins nine to nine tomorrow, nine to
noon tomorrow plus up maybe former Viking and former Ram
(22:13):
John Sullivan joining nine to noon. By the way, in
closing this Sunday about three point thirty Central, go back,
Go bye, s you homer.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oot lucky. We got.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Good news of money.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Leave him up.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. We're listening back to previous
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