November 12, 2025 • 35 mins
Lavelle joins for a Beating The Bears conversation, Vikings and other sports fodder along the way, mixing in a few NFL oddities to follow during the final hour!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Damn man, how'd you find that so fast? All right,
all down Chicago, be I gotta call Wobble all down.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
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because he's going to be out of town on assignment,
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joins us now for some beating the Bears. But do
you think your Bears at six and three? I'll go
to your bears at six and three in good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Good morning? Uh what's my answer? Sixth No, just kidding, I.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Don't understand the bit. I just like that you did it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's becoming a thing. My sister is teaching first graders,
and now the first graders are on in the class
doing the six seventh thing?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
What does what does it mean?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It means nothing, absolutely nothing. It's nonsensical reaction to whatever
you wanted to I know, right.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So what do you think of your Bears?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I wish well at sixty three. I think they've beaten
the teams they should have beaten. They hot teams at
the right time. You know, an NFL that's not about
who you play, but when you catch him. It's been
encouraging to see Cale Williams take steps forward. It's been
disappointed well see the injury on the injuries on defense
and how that's affected things. I'm not as chesty about
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this six and three team as a lot of other
Bears fans are because I have not seen a quality
win against the quality opponent yet. I'd like to see
that before I can start believing in this team. This
kam definitely has warts with the injuries and the secondary
you could throw against the Bears. I think Dennis Allen
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has done a very good job of masking that. He's
got some weird stats because they've given They've given up
a lot of yards.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
They've been run on.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But the Bears defense is great on third down and
great in the red zone, and that has kind of
covered up some of the deficiencies elsewhere. He's picked the
right times. The dollar flits this the Gardner Johnson bits working.
He's gotten him involved and putting him on the line
of screamage and getting him to put pressure on quarterbacks
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and get a few sacks. I think he's got three
in two games. In two games plus, you know, everybody's
like amazed that the Bears have these four. I guess
they're tied for league with four game winning drives or
fourth quarter comebacks and things like that. But this whole
fourth quarter Caleb thing was fermenting last year when he
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twice brought him down the field against Washington. We know
how that game, and he had him he was charging
him down the field against Detroit on Thanksgiving. We know
how that game ended. If I'm not mistaken, I believe
the Bears scored like fifteen points against the Vikings and
in about two minutes last year in the Soldier field.
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So Caleb has that gene in him where when it
gets into tight situations or when they've got to have it,
he's done it. And so that's the one trait that
I've been happy to see from him this year, but overall,
at six and three, it's great. A lot of teams
will killed to be in the Bears position. I like
to see how they fare against quality competition, and that's
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still not going to happen for a while. And we
also have to be a cognizant of this that the
Bears back end of their schedule is a killer. Their
last five games. They're probably gonna lose possy for them
because it goes Packers, Browns, Packers, forty nine Ers, Lions.
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So the Bears got to get the ten wins by
before that stretch comes if they think they have a
shot at being the postseason team. So I'm not totally
sold yet, but I'm encouraged about some of the things
I've seen.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
When the Vikings beat the Bears Week one, after the game,
quarterback Caleb Williams described the quality nature of the Vikings
win like this, do you have lucky suckers? So with
Kale first year with Bett, with Ben Johnson, Caleb, It's
one thing we talked about earlier in the season was
Caleb's will and Ben's will with this whole play action
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and all that. Well, I mean it, uh, it seems
seems like everything's getting along pretty well between those two, right.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, some funny you brought that up, because that was
a big That was a that was something that a
lot of people are going to watch transpire. Was Ben
Johnson gonna totally rewire Caleb Williams. With Caleb Williams have
to come all the way over to Ben Johnson's side
in terms of philosophy and how to operate the offense.
There's definitely ground pains. The false starts in the delayed
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games at the beginning of the year and just getting
the team lined up and everybody in the right position.
It was about. It was a struggle for Caleb and
he's gotten better at that. But what we're seeing here
is that Ben has also come closer to Caleb's side
and a couple of things as well. Last two or
three weeks, Ben is allowing Kales to use his legs
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more and that has been really effective in these victories
against the Bengals and last week against them against the Giants.
Caleb Renford sixty eight yards I believe last week, including
the boot leg touchdown score the fourth quarter, ended up
being the game winning score. So what we're seeing as
a quarterback and a play caller kind of collaborating coming together.
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Kales has had to work on a lot of things.
His footwork is decision making, throwing in the tight windows.
We're still working in progress. I'm not saying it's his product.
But Ben has also been willing to allow Caleb to
play to his strings, which is used in his legs
a little bit. So it's been kind of interesting, interesting
to see how this marriage is progressing.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And in discussing the squad your squad with beloved double
c Courtney Groen in ESPN earlier today.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm not going to say she made the CJ.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Gardner Johnson move basically sound akin to bringing in fence
again plank and making them one player. But nevertheless, my
man has two sacks and three or three sacks and
two games or two sacks and three games.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Nevertheless, he's on fire. CJ. Gardner Johnson, Where did this
come from? Wobble?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the acquisition when I
heard about it because I still remember him from his
trash talking days with the Saints and him and Marshawn
Lattimore back in that secondary just being gangsters on everybody.
It was Gardner Johnson who actually drew the personal foul
pony against Anthony Miller in the postseason, after the Bears
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told Anthony Miller, this guy talks trash. He's gonna try
to get his kid. You gotta ignore it, you gotta
play through it. What happens, Gardner Johnson starts Jeff Adham,
Anthony Miller gets mad, pops him inside the head, gets
caught ejected, you know, in a playoff game. That's what
That's what he's known for. One of the biggest trash
talkers in the league. It was it was a bit
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proven in player polls, uh for for years. So I
I was skeptical when the move was made. But he's
been functional. He's been a pre he's been a sure tackler.
They've given him some death in that secondary because they've
had so many injuries. You know, Jalen Johnson has been
on the field for like what thirty snaps. I believe
all the year. Kylin Gordon still trying to come back
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from those latest injury. Torrell Smith, the former Gopher, was
lost in pre season. Uh, I believe at ACL. So
they've been they've been, they've been banged up and he
has shown up at the right time. And because he
has familiarity with Dennis Allen's system, it's been he's been
able to come and slide in and have a semi
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seamless transition and uh, he's been effective. So I got
give it for him. He's he's been a plus and
he's been here. Uh, let's see how as far I.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Can continue outside of the covenant.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Grady Size more outfield, base running and first base coach
for mister Shelton's twins.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Your thoughts, Yeah, you saw that last night. I was
raised an eyebrow. You know, Grady was like a highly
talent prospect coming up with the Cleveland Indians. I'm sure
that's where like fabians are looked at. Other people you
know were round at the time and knew him.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He was a good player for several years. I leave
injuries ended up Durrell in his career. But then like
a few years ago, he popped up, popped up as
an interim manager for the White Sox after they canted somebody.
I didn't even know if Grady Size Borrow was interested
in taking his career in that stage after he was
done playing, So you know, uh, he was a good outfielder.
He'll be great for the outfielders with the Twins. And
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you know, he's got a little managing experience and he
can win his experience in his new staff. It's it's
gonna be interesting because you know, Uh, they're definitely turning
over some people. Uh, Pete Mackie's staying on, which is
good because I think Becky's a very good pitching coach.
Ramon Morego, uh, who has been in the organization for
like fifteen twenty years. I believe he's stick son. Actually
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Barrego actually played with Michael kaddire in that's how long
he's been with the Twins organization. And they brought in
LaTroy Hockeys to be the bullpen coach. So unfortunately, you know,
you see Tommy Watkins is leaving. He's going to be
part of the Atlanta Brave staff, and some other guys
are moving on. But it's gonna be a interesting staff
to do put together. And I think they should have
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things finalized, the kind of things finalized, but the end
of this week as far as the entire the totality
of the staff. So I would just keep your eyes
and ears open for developments.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Along the way here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Why what what led you to mocking Green Bay Packers
fans on x Monday night?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Because I can That's why any day the Green Bay
Packers loses a good day and moving at home on
Monday night, football is just a cherry on top of that,
on top of all that. So you can't, I can't
waste an opportunity to needle the people to the to
the east of us. So you know which we call
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it Jordan Love pretending the football for shot put and
just trying to like flip it in the air when
he shouldn't be trying to do that, not being able
to move move the ball against uh the Eagles defense,
Uh that had a notable just had a notable acquisition
who had a boffle first game for them. You know,
Jalen Hurts was struggling as well, but you know, he
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he hit a couple of passes, he hit the he
caught he got the Saquon Barkley out in the plaque
and then being a forty yard game and through the
touchdown pass Devonfae Smith which kind of broke the game
up with a little bit until the Packers came back
and scored. But you know, any day the Packers lose,
it's a good day for it should be that. It
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should be that way for Vankins fans, should be that
way for Bears fans. So yeah, the Green Bay is
below Chicago and the standings right now it's Lions and Bears,
with Lions in first place because of the tiebreaker fall
by the Packers and followed by a team that happens
to be a fourth place for now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh heay back to baseball for a second. Couple of guardians. Yeah,
this Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clause story is coming to
fruition here. I mean a couple of couple of guardians
got ten k each five k for for two times
of intentionally throwing a single ball, so a single pitch
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and it was a ball, so clearly we're talking in
game wagering here.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They each got five.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Grand twice and uh well, now now they're they're they're
both out and who knows what the jail situation is.
Luis Ortiz, Emmanual Clause, what what do you think of this?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm a flabbergasted over this match. I mean, this investigation
started during the season because all you think class was
I think classe like played half a year for the
Cleveland Indians Guardians when it's all like transpired. But I'm stune,
especially Classe is in the middle of a five year,
twenty million dollar contract. Why does it need to bet
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ten grand on whether he throws a straight unbelievable if
he if he's in arrears, if he's got other issues,
if he has a gambling problem, he also books, he is,
he has to kind of come through in their end.
That's terrible. I guess there's video out there. I haven't
seen it that one of the bits where he's supposed
to throw a ball he actually screwed up and was
called to strike. To see him like dropping a bomb
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on the mouth, I haven't I've heard about this, but
I haven't seen it. And that's disgusting in this gambling thing,
sports and gambling. Uh, it's headed for a day of
reckoning here just because of you know, UH leagues enfranchises,
you know, signing UH deals with casinos in fan duel
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and other gambling UH industry establishments, you know, because of
what won the revenue. You know, I think I think
people are still trying to recoup money they lost because
of COVID and so the closing up to these uh
these entities and it's creating this green airand where these
could be manipulated if people people could be under take
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prop bets. In basketball, you had guys, you know, pretending
to have a concussion leaving games. So all their boys
and maybe he and that player as well, you know,
took the ounder and all the prop bets that are
out on him so they get cash. This is a
serious issue that's affecting UH professional and college sports man.
There are there are coaches out there who are just
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terrified about UH bookies getting to their kids. And you know,
one of their players has an ankle's brain and so
he's walking around campus with a boot on. Someone makes
a call to Vegas, Hey, this guy's walking around he's
got a bootts ankle. That affects U spread, you know.
I I know of a story where there's a team
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on the road on the East coach playing a game.
They're up by twenty and they were favored when by
twelve and the coach emptied his bench. He had a
he had like a walk on on the floor and
the other team had three three pointers to get under
the twelve right and then to walk out miss the
lay up that could have put them back over the number,
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and I walk out got text messages of saying you
coffee money. You know. So coaches are worried about this stuff, man.
Basically baseball's worried about that stuff. That's why we're going
to like automax strike though, because they're worried that there's
going to be millions and millions of dollars bet on
a pitch in the World Series that own practice screw
up and lead to like a big swing of money.
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So people are the people that put their heads together
about this bit, and one educate their players in their
athletes about resisting temptation. Uh, and you know, class A
and ortis probably need to be kicked out of baseball
for good if they're if they're at that point where
they're betting money on whether a pitch is a ball
or strike, which affects a lot of people, Uh, not
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just them, but people in Vegas betting on the game
and fans watching the game and can't fan sit in
the stands and feel like these games are happy organically
or if someone's on the tape, And that's the self
doubt that sports leads.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Need to avoid Lastly, so back to the to the
football game, the beating the Bears part. So you basically
you give the I mean the Vikings are four and five,
the Bears are six and three. I mean, are are
you giving the Vikings what a fifteen to twenty percent
chance of winning this game?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Aren't they favored by what three and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Or Now that's not what my question was.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
My question is what percent chance are you giving them
to win the game?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The Vikes? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
This is a must win game from Minnesota, mine mine.
We're back to must win mode here because the Vikers
dropped this game. What's the record going to be with it?
Four and six? Then? Right, there'll be three games behind
the Bears in last place? Right? The fight is not
a lot on the line this weekend. Man, they're gonna
be a little of it as hey and the Bears
hopefully will be. I want to get the Vicers back
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how Week one transpired. They probably want to show the
Vikings how much they've been proved since that, because I
think the Bears are a better team now than you
were in Week one. So I would give I'm gonna
get this a fifty to fifty man, I think it
can go either way. I think it's gonna be a
very interesting game. I think it's gonna be a hard
fought games. How jj founce is back after last week
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is going to be key here and the Bears defense,
you know, if they can figure out ways to get
some pressure on them, which has been hard because of
the where the Bear's pass rush has been kind of
hitting miss here in the last few weeks. Although montest
what's playing better. I'm just looking at this going that,
going like it's more than a fifty to fifty bit.
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I can't give the Vikings a fifteen or twenty percent
chance of winning. I do think, you know, when all
the pieces are in place, they're a pretty good football team.
So I think it's fifty to fifty on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Heay, safe travels wherever you're going.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I hope to see you before Thanksgiving and maybe in
studio next week. And may God bless you you, Leslie,
Larry and everybody involved in your covenant.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Likewise, my friend.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Labelly Neil the third columnist for the Star Tribune. He
is Ballyhood and he roots for Chicago based teams. Why
because he's his cousin's bad bad Lee Roy Brown, and
they're both from the South side of Chicago, but the
Bears are most deeply rooted in his heart. And uh
to which we we send this song, Chicago be Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
King Chicago, Salleki, welcome back nine to noon fattering the Bears.
We're hoping we do that this weekend. The team's four
and five.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sorry about that. Our favorite team is four and five.
Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh good brother, you see Greenway was in here. I
think it's it's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Nfl oudities, right, yeah, the nfl oudities. You like me
to start or you want to start.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, no, I can start.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I was just kind of laying it out the just
the oddities that we've experienced within our own rights as
Vikings fans, just weird stuff happening around the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And I was looking at this last night because I mean,
it just it just won't stop in my personal life,
people asking me.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's about Darnold, it's about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Scene.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Have you seen what bo Nix is doing? Mile High?
Good Luck by the way, Chiefs out of the Bye.
That should be fun for Sean Payton's team this weekend.
But Drake May leads the NFL odds for MVP, and
he is tied with Matthew Stafford as a matter of
fact via fan duel at plus three hundred. And that's
I realized that while trying to figure out where Daniel
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Jones sits.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, he leads I believe the NFL in passing
yards through ten games. His team's eight and two.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Congratulations to them. Third in MVP odds in the NFL
right now is and he's at five to one. Is
Jonathan Taylor of the Indianapolis Colts. I'm just thinking, you know,
NFL out of teas, the weirdness of things. Saquon runs
for two thousand yards a year ago.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, he doesn't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
The fifteen total tds. Maybe that's because he was light
on the scoring that played into this. But then you
look at you know, Josh Allen incredible season that he
had certainly forty combined touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Lamar doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And it's almost like, was there Lamar fatigue as he
went for like forty one and four last year. Lamar
Jackson does does not get his third MVP. Of course,
Derek Henry, the massive season he had do they play
those types of games. I was just thinking Saquon with
two thousand yards and he doesn't get the MVP. But
the way this season is playing out PA where a
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lot of the guys making Hey, whether it's Donald out West,
it's Jones and Indie. You look at Mac Jones as
like top ten and passing yards. How the heck is
that happening? You look at all the oddities and I'm
just looking at I'm looking at Jonathan Taylor because he's
on pace to average about nineteen hundred and fifty yards
through ten games.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That means they haven't had a buy yet. Might I
think their bye might be this week?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
He's on pace for about nineteen hundred and fifty yards,
twenty five rushing tds and really almost thirty in total
if you put a couple in through the air.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is it possible? Are we at least as close as
we were a year ago? Though? Falling short?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I want to see an MVP that is not a QB,
and it would be the first time, of course, since
Adrian Peterson in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, so Adrian did win it in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He did win it, Yeah, And so it's just one
of the odd things this year, whether it was what
Derrick Henry and Saquon did a year ago, with what
we're seeing with Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor is single handedly
winning and dominating games for the Indianapolis Colts, and you
can see Daniel Jones making the right decisions and Ty
Warren the rookie tight end.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I know they dig him.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
And at one point he's driving down the field overseas
last weekend with a bloody mouth, and that I'm sure
will end up being a meme somewhere in the social
media space. It's just I'm thinking about oddities. In twenty
twenty five, He's third in the MVP voting. Jonathan Taylor,
when healthy, when happy, is absolutely roasting everybody, and all
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he has to do is chill and just be average
by his own standards. And I feel like there is
at least a coin flip's chance giving out things have
played out. It's Jonathan Taylor could be the first non
QB MVP since ap Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So when you say third in the MVP voting, that
that's like current or like voting.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
As of this morning. In the odds, oh, in the odds, Yeah,
got it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
In the odds not in the voting, okay, and he's
behind Mahomes and who else, No, he's behind Drake May
and Matthew Stafford. Oh Mahomes is okay, all right, thank you.
Well that favors Taylor when it's not Mahomes or well,
Josh Allen has seen it again, Josh Allen Lamar has
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missed games. Yep, that's the other Those are the the
the other two names. And what I'm looking at here
is the leaders in yards are Daniel Jones, justin Herbert,
Drake May, Stat Mafford, and then Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Those are the top five. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So then from there, all right, how good are their teams? Well,
Colts quite, good, Chargers, good Patriots, they're all good.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Chiefs middling.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Everybody expects them to be good, I mean really good,
like the Chiefs are supposed to be. If they lose
this week into Denver, they're in a lot of trouble,
a lot of trouble. That's just the end of the story.
What about Sam the man and the fan. I mean,
if the Chickens keep and he keeps playing more than
than complimentary football, he'll have a puncher's chance at this award.
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But See here's the point, at least from my standpoint.
Looking at it from afar, I think if if Taylor
stays healthy and not not just putting up three like
in Berlin, but just being himself, the oddity is this
is a year a non quarterback is going to win
the m v P. Yeah, you know, because you're you're
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you're no matter what the Colts finish at uh and
and no matter you know where to a certain extent
Daniel Jones finishes. I mean, Jones has seven picks, Herbert
has eight picks. You know, it's it's you have some
some metaphorical flies in this proverbial appointment with these top quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And he's the key to it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
The combination of new faces.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And people having preconceived notions about Daniel Jones, they just
can't get passed, right, So that's good even if it
cost him four votes. Well, that elevates a quarterback in
elevate Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, so I think I actually think
that that if it stays kind of where it is now,
that oddity is going to transpire.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Now, Today's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
In the business, we call tomorrow Thursday, which means we
have Thursday night football What a humdinger. This will be
the Jets of the Patriots. Thanksgiving Night, the Dallas Cowboys
host the Kansas City Chiefs for Thursday Night football. All right,
that's on Thanksgiving. Oddity out on this. Dallas is the
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first team in the history of the National Football League
to have four Thursday games during the season. That includes
the season opener versus the Iggles, the Chiefs on Thanksgiving,
a primetime bout versus the Detroit Lions, and a Christmas
Day meeting with the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
What do we make of that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
America's Team still a thing where, even if it's a
bad thing, people still watch Dallas, which used to be
called America's team. I don't know what to make of that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That is weird, but I think we latch onto brands. No,
it's not weird. It's an oddity. It's an oddity America's team.
I still glom on to brands. I think we glom
onto brands. I love it. Star what's next? And for
better or worse?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think they're entertaining. You got two more of their
both short. Here's here's my question. What is happening to
the home field advantage in the NFLPA So I saw
this from Fox over the summer.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I grabbed a blip on it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The long accepted perception of the adversity and NFL team
faces on the road, crowd, unfamiliar conditions, et cetera, is
somewhat nostalgic. In the twenty twenty four regular season, home
teams won just fifty three percent of the time, which
basically equates to a nine to eight record, a success
rate that didn't even get you into the playoffs last year.
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The middling success continues a recent trend. Twenty twenty four
was the fourth time in six years that NFL home
teams won fifty three percent of the time or less.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Why do I bring that up?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
In twenty twenty five, road teams have a winning record,
and in totality, the NFL league wide average is fifty
four percent PA. Do you find it odd that the
home field advantage is slowly but surely drifting away.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
No, Because the way the league is constructed, Unlike Major
League Baseball, there is a salary cap here. Unlike the NBA,
we don't have the what are they called tiers, thresholds, mems,
what are they called the oh, my goodness, the cliffs,
the levels, the layers text. We're dancing around Malachi in
(29:02):
the math. I mean, I don't you know, all right, yes,
I know it's aprons. There we go Apron. Hey, NFL
doesn't have that. NHL nobody knows what it has. I'm
not sure exactly, So we'll move past that. Yea, And
the commissioner wants worldly appeal and he wants powow d.
(29:24):
But see, the National Football League is a league like
MLB would get there with some deep draft picks. Likewise,
for the NHL, rarely happens in the NBA. I mean,
somebody walking on from the street, even though everybody watched
his all ten in college, and all of a sudden
he makes a team and he's really really, really really good.
You still get college free agents like like Manungai, the
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running back for the Bears. Yeah, seventh rounder from Rutgers,
Isaiah Pacheco's seventh rounder from Rutgers, the Krosskey merrit Cat
or whatever his name is. That's a great example. They
but they're offensive line. That that also a fifth, sixth,
seventh round picks or college free agent. You can still
do that in this league. So the point being, there's
so many players, injuries are so prevalent in the NBA.
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The load management bit that there's one taking place today
or yesterday.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Where I looked at it this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Early in the season, I'm like, I can't believe what's
happening here doesn't even evolve a member of funk Suit It.
There are two players who have played like six games
in ten days, eleven days, well, neither whomever's playing Miami.
I think it's tonight. Oh really yeah? Oh it's Evan
Mobley and Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell
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are being kept out of tonight's game against Miami. Rest reasons, restes, Okay,
now in November, right, but they're very important, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And the game is on the road, so you're not
putting an l on the home fans paying all that
money for this seats. But I mean, what if I'm
Manny in Miami and like I moved from Cayahuga Heights, Ohio. Correct,
and Donovan is my dog? Yeah, And I wanted to
see Garland but he's not playing yet. At least I'm
gonna get to see Oh, he's back, Garlin came back
last game.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But I want to see Spider, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I want to see Spider, I'll see spiding I want
to see Modeley.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So the NFL is not that either.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And here's the point is because the parody and the
lack of a true domination by the best of the best,
ever the best, means that you get like Buffalo is
going to make the playoffs and win its division and
get a home game and just lost to Miami, so
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that in certain situations, you know, like Oklahoma City, best
of the best losing to Portland, Okay, probably won't lose
the next three to them, but the season so long
and travels, so you get. What I'm saying here is
that that that parody bitman in the way the draft
and free agency and salary cap, lack of aprons, all
that everything's constructed.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The commissioner got to going good. Do you think do
you think the Bills are absolutely going to win that East?
Who else? Is the Patriots? My bad? My bad?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Apologies, Bills will make the playoffs. Can't say absolutely are
going because the Patriots already beat Buffalo earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, I wasn't trying to.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I got to change my face on the Patriots because
I think the Bills might be in the way that
they're I mean, you can run them.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They're giving up about fifty on the ground right now.
Now you're piling on because I was laid back to
the segment. I got it correct. I gotta change change
my face with the Patriots. Now, I accept your apologies.
I gotta change my face. I'm just I haven't I
didn't take them seriously into the Hey, here's the deal.
If you were at those joint practices with me watching
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parts of what I watched, you, to a man, most
people would have been like, this is not a nine
and two squad eight and two whatever it is. Even
what I saw in the preseason game was not not
ready for lifting. If you had watched what I and
we saw the second day Thursday, well you would have
thought they were going to win five games.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And I'm not kidding you. I mean they got dis deroyed.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So I gotta change my face on that or just
eliminate Buffalo from that conversation. But the parody piece still
is in play. How about this one.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
This isn't as odd de tease go nfl oudities. That
is what you called it, right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, The Kansas City Chiefs are nine games into the
season and they're the only squad to have not lost
a fumble.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
How about that one? Pretty good one? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
They're the they're the only Well I should have done
that after the Thursday Night Football l The Kansas City
Chiefs are nine games into the season and they're the
only squad who have not lost a fumble. I find
that to be an oddit team, that is odd. Let
me read through one more.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, the the.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Denver Broncos are eight and two and tied for the
best record in the National Football League. Ask a layman
about the Bronx, and the first thing they'll say is, hey,
why are the Broncs so good? You're not a layman,
but just say it. Quick defense, amazing defense, Thank you,
boom cool. That defense leads the NFL and defensive pass
interference and off side penalties, and overall has the most
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penalties of any team in the National Football League at
eighty three. The old Anti vikeuts up to his old tricks.
Isn't he forcing the officials to make call after call,
pushing the envelope without a care in the world. Actually,
there's nothing oddity about that, all right?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Really good times today. Coach is coming in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
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(01:11):
joins us now for some beating the Bears. But do
you think your Bears at six and three? I'll go
to your bears at six and three in good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Good morning? Uh what's my answer? Sixth No, just kidding, I.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Don't understand the bit. I just like that you did it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's becoming a thing. My sister is teaching first graders,
and now the first graders are on in the class
doing the six seventh thing?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
What does what does it mean?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It means nothing, absolutely nothing. It's nonsensical reaction to whatever
you wanted to I know, right.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So what do you think of your Bears?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I wish well at sixty three. I think they've beaten
the teams they should have beaten. They hot teams at
the right time. You know, an NFL that's not about
who you play, but when you catch him. It's been
encouraging to see Cale Williams take steps forward. It's been
disappointed well see the injury on the injuries on defense
and how that's affected things. I'm not as chesty about
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this six and three team as a lot of other
Bears fans are because I have not seen a quality
win against the quality opponent yet. I'd like to see
that before I can start believing in this team. This
kam definitely has warts with the injuries and the secondary
you could throw against the Bears. I think Dennis Allen
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has done a very good job of masking that. He's
got some weird stats because they've given They've given up
a lot of yards.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
They've been run on.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But the Bears defense is great on third down and
great in the red zone, and that has kind of
covered up some of the deficiencies elsewhere. He's picked the
right times. The dollar flits this the Gardner Johnson bits working.
He's gotten him involved and putting him on the line
of screamage and getting him to put pressure on quarterbacks
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and get a few sacks. I think he's got three
in two games. In two games plus, you know, everybody's
like amazed that the Bears have these four. I guess
they're tied for league with four game winning drives or
fourth quarter comebacks and things like that. But this whole
fourth quarter Caleb thing was fermenting last year when he
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twice brought him down the field against Washington. We know
how that game, and he had him he was charging
him down the field against Detroit on Thanksgiving. We know
how that game ended. If I'm not mistaken, I believe
the Bears scored like fifteen points against the Vikings and
in about two minutes last year in the Soldier field.
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So Caleb has that gene in him where when it
gets into tight situations or when they've got to have it,
he's done it. And so that's the one trait that
I've been happy to see from him this year, but overall,
at six and three, it's great. A lot of teams
will killed to be in the Bears position. I like
to see how they fare against quality competition, and that's
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still not going to happen for a while. And we
also have to be a cognizant of this that the
Bears back end of their schedule is a killer. Their
last five games. They're probably gonna lose possy for them
because it goes Packers, Browns, Packers, forty nine Ers, Lions.
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So the Bears got to get the ten wins by
before that stretch comes if they think they have a
shot at being the postseason team. So I'm not totally
sold yet, but I'm encouraged about some of the things
I've seen.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
When the Vikings beat the Bears Week one, after the game,
quarterback Caleb Williams described the quality nature of the Vikings
win like this, do you have lucky suckers? So with
Kale first year with Bett, with Ben Johnson, Caleb, It's
one thing we talked about earlier in the season was
Caleb's will and Ben's will with this whole play action
(05:09):
and all that. Well, I mean it, uh, it seems
seems like everything's getting along pretty well between those two, right.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, some funny you brought that up, because that was
a big That was a that was something that a
lot of people are going to watch transpire. Was Ben
Johnson gonna totally rewire Caleb Williams. With Caleb Williams have
to come all the way over to Ben Johnson's side
in terms of philosophy and how to operate the offense.
There's definitely ground pains. The false starts in the delayed
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games at the beginning of the year and just getting
the team lined up and everybody in the right position.
It was about. It was a struggle for Caleb and
he's gotten better at that. But what we're seeing here
is that Ben has also come closer to Caleb's side
and a couple of things as well. Last two or
three weeks, Ben is allowing Kales to use his legs
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more and that has been really effective in these victories
against the Bengals and last week against them against the Giants.
Caleb Renford sixty eight yards I believe last week, including
the boot leg touchdown score the fourth quarter, ended up
being the game winning score. So what we're seeing as
a quarterback and a play caller kind of collaborating coming together.
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Kales has had to work on a lot of things.
His footwork is decision making, throwing in the tight windows.
We're still working in progress. I'm not saying it's his product.
But Ben has also been willing to allow Caleb to
play to his strings, which is used in his legs
a little bit. So it's been kind of interesting, interesting
to see how this marriage is progressing.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And in discussing the squad your squad with beloved double
c Courtney Groen in ESPN earlier today.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm not going to say she made the CJ.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Gardner Johnson move basically sound akin to bringing in fence
again plank and making them one player. But nevertheless, my
man has two sacks and three or three sacks and
two games or two sacks and three games.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Nevertheless, he's on fire. CJ. Gardner Johnson, Where did this
come from? Wobble?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the acquisition when I
heard about it because I still remember him from his
trash talking days with the Saints and him and Marshawn
Lattimore back in that secondary just being gangsters on everybody.
It was Gardner Johnson who actually drew the personal foul
pony against Anthony Miller in the postseason, after the Bears
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told Anthony Miller, this guy talks trash. He's gonna try
to get his kid. You gotta ignore it, you gotta
play through it. What happens, Gardner Johnson starts Jeff Adham,
Anthony Miller gets mad, pops him inside the head, gets
caught ejected, you know, in a playoff game. That's what
That's what he's known for. One of the biggest trash
talkers in the league. It was it was a bit
(07:58):
proven in player polls, uh for for years. So I
I was skeptical when the move was made. But he's
been functional. He's been a pre he's been a sure tackler.
They've given him some death in that secondary because they've
had so many injuries. You know, Jalen Johnson has been
on the field for like what thirty snaps. I believe
all the year. Kylin Gordon still trying to come back
(08:19):
from those latest injury. Torrell Smith, the former Gopher, was
lost in pre season. Uh, I believe at ACL. So
they've been they've been, they've been banged up and he
has shown up at the right time. And because he
has familiarity with Dennis Allen's system, it's been he's been
able to come and slide in and have a semi
(08:40):
seamless transition and uh, he's been effective. So I got
give it for him. He's he's been a plus and
he's been here. Uh, let's see how as far I.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Can continue outside of the covenant.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Grady Size more outfield, base running and first base coach
for mister Shelton's twins.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Your thoughts, Yeah, you saw that last night. I was
raised an eyebrow. You know, Grady was like a highly
talent prospect coming up with the Cleveland Indians. I'm sure
that's where like fabians are looked at. Other people you
know were round at the time and knew him.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He was a good player for several years. I leave
injuries ended up Durrell in his career. But then like
a few years ago, he popped up, popped up as
an interim manager for the White Sox after they canted somebody.
I didn't even know if Grady Size Borrow was interested
in taking his career in that stage after he was
done playing, So you know, uh, he was a good outfielder.
He'll be great for the outfielders with the Twins. And
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you know, he's got a little managing experience and he
can win his experience in his new staff. It's it's
gonna be interesting because you know, Uh, they're definitely turning
over some people. Uh, Pete Mackie's staying on, which is
good because I think Becky's a very good pitching coach.
Ramon Morego, uh, who has been in the organization for
like fifteen twenty years. I believe he's stick son. Actually
(09:57):
Barrego actually played with Michael kaddire in that's how long
he's been with the Twins organization. And they brought in
LaTroy Hockeys to be the bullpen coach. So unfortunately, you know,
you see Tommy Watkins is leaving. He's going to be
part of the Atlanta Brave staff, and some other guys
are moving on. But it's gonna be a interesting staff
to do put together. And I think they should have
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things finalized, the kind of things finalized, but the end
of this week as far as the entire the totality
of the staff. So I would just keep your eyes
and ears open for developments.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Along the way here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Why what what led you to mocking Green Bay Packers
fans on x Monday night?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Because I can That's why any day the Green Bay
Packers loses a good day and moving at home on
Monday night, football is just a cherry on top of that,
on top of all that. So you can't, I can't
waste an opportunity to needle the people to the to
the east of us. So you know which we call
(10:58):
it Jordan Love pretending the football for shot put and
just trying to like flip it in the air when
he shouldn't be trying to do that, not being able
to move move the ball against uh the Eagles defense,
Uh that had a notable just had a notable acquisition
who had a boffle first game for them. You know,
Jalen Hurts was struggling as well, but you know, he
(11:20):
he hit a couple of passes, he hit the he
caught he got the Saquon Barkley out in the plaque
and then being a forty yard game and through the
touchdown pass Devonfae Smith which kind of broke the game
up with a little bit until the Packers came back
and scored. But you know, any day the Packers lose,
it's a good day for it should be that. It
(11:41):
should be that way for Vankins fans, should be that
way for Bears fans. So yeah, the Green Bay is
below Chicago and the standings right now it's Lions and Bears,
with Lions in first place because of the tiebreaker fall
by the Packers and followed by a team that happens
to be a fourth place for now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh heay back to baseball for a second. Couple of guardians. Yeah,
this Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clause story is coming to
fruition here. I mean a couple of couple of guardians
got ten k each five k for for two times
of intentionally throwing a single ball, so a single pitch
(12:19):
and it was a ball, so clearly we're talking in
game wagering here.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They each got five.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Grand twice and uh well, now now they're they're they're
both out and who knows what the jail situation is.
Luis Ortiz, Emmanual Clause, what what do you think of this?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm a flabbergasted over this match. I mean, this investigation
started during the season because all you think class was
I think classe like played half a year for the
Cleveland Indians Guardians when it's all like transpired. But I'm stune,
especially Classe is in the middle of a five year,
twenty million dollar contract. Why does it need to bet
(12:58):
ten grand on whether he throws a straight unbelievable if
he if he's in arrears, if he's got other issues,
if he has a gambling problem, he also books, he is,
he has to kind of come through in their end.
That's terrible. I guess there's video out there. I haven't
seen it that one of the bits where he's supposed
to throw a ball he actually screwed up and was
called to strike. To see him like dropping a bomb
(13:20):
on the mouth, I haven't I've heard about this, but
I haven't seen it. And that's disgusting in this gambling thing,
sports and gambling. Uh, it's headed for a day of
reckoning here just because of you know, UH leagues enfranchises,
you know, signing UH deals with casinos in fan duel
(13:42):
and other gambling UH industry establishments, you know, because of
what won the revenue. You know, I think I think
people are still trying to recoup money they lost because
of COVID and so the closing up to these uh
these entities and it's creating this green airand where these
could be manipulated if people people could be under take
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prop bets. In basketball, you had guys, you know, pretending
to have a concussion leaving games. So all their boys
and maybe he and that player as well, you know,
took the ounder and all the prop bets that are
out on him so they get cash. This is a
serious issue that's affecting UH professional and college sports man.
There are there are coaches out there who are just
(14:26):
terrified about UH bookies getting to their kids. And you know,
one of their players has an ankle's brain and so
he's walking around campus with a boot on. Someone makes
a call to Vegas, Hey, this guy's walking around he's
got a bootts ankle. That affects U spread, you know.
I I know of a story where there's a team
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on the road on the East coach playing a game.
They're up by twenty and they were favored when by
twelve and the coach emptied his bench. He had a
he had like a walk on on the floor and
the other team had three three pointers to get under
the twelve right and then to walk out miss the
lay up that could have put them back over the number,
(15:07):
and I walk out got text messages of saying you
coffee money. You know. So coaches are worried about this stuff, man.
Basically baseball's worried about that stuff. That's why we're going
to like automax strike though, because they're worried that there's
going to be millions and millions of dollars bet on
a pitch in the World Series that own practice screw
up and lead to like a big swing of money.
(15:28):
So people are the people that put their heads together
about this bit, and one educate their players in their
athletes about resisting temptation. Uh, and you know, class A
and ortis probably need to be kicked out of baseball
for good if they're if they're at that point where
they're betting money on whether a pitch is a ball
or strike, which affects a lot of people, Uh, not
(15:53):
just them, but people in Vegas betting on the game
and fans watching the game and can't fan sit in
the stands and feel like these games are happy organically
or if someone's on the tape, And that's the self
doubt that sports leads.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Need to avoid Lastly, so back to the to the
football game, the beating the Bears part. So you basically
you give the I mean the Vikings are four and five,
the Bears are six and three. I mean, are are
you giving the Vikings what a fifteen to twenty percent
chance of winning this game?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Aren't they favored by what three and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Or Now that's not what my question was.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
My question is what percent chance are you giving them
to win the game?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The Vikes? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
This is a must win game from Minnesota, mine mine.
We're back to must win mode here because the Vikers
dropped this game. What's the record going to be with it?
Four and six? Then? Right, there'll be three games behind
the Bears in last place? Right? The fight is not
a lot on the line this weekend. Man, they're gonna
be a little of it as hey and the Bears
hopefully will be. I want to get the Vicers back
(17:00):
how Week one transpired. They probably want to show the
Vikings how much they've been proved since that, because I
think the Bears are a better team now than you
were in Week one. So I would give I'm gonna
get this a fifty to fifty man, I think it
can go either way. I think it's gonna be a
very interesting game. I think it's gonna be a hard
fought games. How jj founce is back after last week
(17:22):
is going to be key here and the Bears defense,
you know, if they can figure out ways to get
some pressure on them, which has been hard because of
the where the Bear's pass rush has been kind of
hitting miss here in the last few weeks. Although montest
what's playing better. I'm just looking at this going that,
going like it's more than a fifty to fifty bit.
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I can't give the Vikings a fifteen or twenty percent
chance of winning. I do think, you know, when all
the pieces are in place, they're a pretty good football team.
So I think it's fifty to fifty on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Heay, safe travels wherever you're going.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I hope to see you before Thanksgiving and maybe in
studio next week. And may God bless you you, Leslie,
Larry and everybody involved in your covenant.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Likewise, my friend.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Labelly Neil the third columnist for the Star Tribune. He
is Ballyhood and he roots for Chicago based teams. Why
because he's his cousin's bad bad Lee Roy Brown, and
they're both from the South side of Chicago, but the
Bears are most deeply rooted in his heart. And uh
to which we we send this song, Chicago be Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
King Chicago, Salleki, welcome back nine to noon fattering the Bears.
We're hoping we do that this weekend. The team's four
and five.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sorry about that. Our favorite team is four and five.
Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh good brother, you see Greenway was in here. I
think it's it's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Nfl oudities, right, yeah, the nfl oudities. You like me
to start or you want to start.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, no, I can start.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I was just kind of laying it out the just
the oddities that we've experienced within our own rights as
Vikings fans, just weird stuff happening around the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And I was looking at this last night because I mean,
it just it just won't stop in my personal life,
people asking me.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's about Darnold, it's about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Scene.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Have you seen what bo Nix is doing? Mile High?
Good Luck by the way, Chiefs out of the Bye.
That should be fun for Sean Payton's team this weekend.
But Drake May leads the NFL odds for MVP, and
he is tied with Matthew Stafford as a matter of
fact via fan duel at plus three hundred. And that's
I realized that while trying to figure out where Daniel
(20:58):
Jones sits.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, he leads I believe the NFL in passing
yards through ten games. His team's eight and two.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Congratulations to them. Third in MVP odds in the NFL
right now is and he's at five to one. Is
Jonathan Taylor of the Indianapolis Colts. I'm just thinking, you know,
NFL out of teas, the weirdness of things. Saquon runs
for two thousand yards a year ago.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, he doesn't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
The fifteen total tds. Maybe that's because he was light
on the scoring that played into this. But then you
look at you know, Josh Allen incredible season that he
had certainly forty combined touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Lamar doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And it's almost like, was there Lamar fatigue as he
went for like forty one and four last year. Lamar
Jackson does does not get his third MVP. Of course,
Derek Henry, the massive season he had do they play
those types of games. I was just thinking Saquon with
two thousand yards and he doesn't get the MVP. But
the way this season is playing out PA where a
(22:00):
lot of the guys making Hey, whether it's Donald out West,
it's Jones and Indie. You look at Mac Jones as
like top ten and passing yards. How the heck is
that happening? You look at all the oddities and I'm
just looking at I'm looking at Jonathan Taylor because he's
on pace to average about nineteen hundred and fifty yards
through ten games.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That means they haven't had a buy yet. Might I
think their bye might be this week?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
He's on pace for about nineteen hundred and fifty yards,
twenty five rushing tds and really almost thirty in total
if you put a couple in through the air.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is it possible? Are we at least as close as
we were a year ago? Though? Falling short?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I want to see an MVP that is not a QB,
and it would be the first time, of course, since
Adrian Peterson in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, so Adrian did win it in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He did win it, Yeah, And so it's just one
of the odd things this year, whether it was what
Derrick Henry and Saquon did a year ago, with what
we're seeing with Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor is single handedly
winning and dominating games for the Indianapolis Colts, and you
can see Daniel Jones making the right decisions and Ty
Warren the rookie tight end.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I know they dig him.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
And at one point he's driving down the field overseas
last weekend with a bloody mouth, and that I'm sure
will end up being a meme somewhere in the social
media space. It's just I'm thinking about oddities. In twenty
twenty five, He's third in the MVP voting. Jonathan Taylor,
when healthy, when happy, is absolutely roasting everybody, and all
(23:33):
he has to do is chill and just be average
by his own standards. And I feel like there is
at least a coin flip's chance giving out things have
played out. It's Jonathan Taylor could be the first non
QB MVP since ap Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So when you say third in the MVP voting, that
that's like current or like voting.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
As of this morning. In the odds, oh, in the odds, Yeah,
got it.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
In the odds not in the voting, okay, and he's
behind Mahomes and who else, No, he's behind Drake May
and Matthew Stafford. Oh Mahomes is okay, all right, thank you.
Well that favors Taylor when it's not Mahomes or well,
Josh Allen has seen it again, Josh Allen Lamar has
(24:17):
missed games. Yep, that's the other Those are the the
the other two names. And what I'm looking at here
is the leaders in yards are Daniel Jones, justin Herbert,
Drake May, Stat Mafford, and then Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Those are the top five. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So then from there, all right, how good are their teams? Well,
Colts quite, good, Chargers, good Patriots, they're all good.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Chiefs middling.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Everybody expects them to be good, I mean really good,
like the Chiefs are supposed to be. If they lose
this week into Denver, they're in a lot of trouble,
a lot of trouble. That's just the end of the story.
What about Sam the man and the fan. I mean,
if the Chickens keep and he keeps playing more than
than complimentary football, he'll have a puncher's chance at this award.
(25:08):
But See here's the point, at least from my standpoint.
Looking at it from afar, I think if if Taylor
stays healthy and not not just putting up three like
in Berlin, but just being himself, the oddity is this
is a year a non quarterback is going to win
the m v P. Yeah, you know, because you're you're
(25:30):
you're no matter what the Colts finish at uh and
and no matter you know where to a certain extent
Daniel Jones finishes. I mean, Jones has seven picks, Herbert
has eight picks. You know, it's it's you have some
some metaphorical flies in this proverbial appointment with these top quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And he's the key to it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
The combination of new faces.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And people having preconceived notions about Daniel Jones, they just
can't get passed, right, So that's good even if it
cost him four votes. Well, that elevates a quarterback in
elevate Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, so I think I actually think
that that if it stays kind of where it is now,
that oddity is going to transpire.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Now, Today's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
In the business, we call tomorrow Thursday, which means we
have Thursday night football What a humdinger. This will be
the Jets of the Patriots. Thanksgiving Night, the Dallas Cowboys
host the Kansas City Chiefs for Thursday Night football. All right,
that's on Thanksgiving. Oddity out on this. Dallas is the
(26:47):
first team in the history of the National Football League
to have four Thursday games during the season. That includes
the season opener versus the Iggles, the Chiefs on Thanksgiving,
a primetime bout versus the Detroit Lions, and a Christmas
Day meeting with the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
What do we make of that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
America's Team still a thing where, even if it's a
bad thing, people still watch Dallas, which used to be
called America's team. I don't know what to make of that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That is weird, but I think we latch onto brands. No,
it's not weird. It's an oddity. It's an oddity America's team.
I still glom on to brands. I think we glom
onto brands. I love it. Star what's next? And for
better or worse?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think they're entertaining. You got two more of their
both short. Here's here's my question. What is happening to
the home field advantage in the NFLPA So I saw
this from Fox over the summer.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I grabbed a blip on it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
The long accepted perception of the adversity and NFL team
faces on the road, crowd, unfamiliar conditions, et cetera, is
somewhat nostalgic. In the twenty twenty four regular season, home
teams won just fifty three percent of the time, which
basically equates to a nine to eight record, a success
rate that didn't even get you into the playoffs last year.
(28:09):
The middling success continues a recent trend. Twenty twenty four
was the fourth time in six years that NFL home
teams won fifty three percent of the time or less.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Why do I bring that up?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
In twenty twenty five, road teams have a winning record,
and in totality, the NFL league wide average is fifty
four percent PA. Do you find it odd that the
home field advantage is slowly but surely drifting away.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
No, Because the way the league is constructed, Unlike Major
League Baseball, there is a salary cap here. Unlike the NBA,
we don't have the what are they called tiers, thresholds, mems,
what are they called the oh, my goodness, the cliffs,
the levels, the layers text. We're dancing around Malachi in
(29:02):
the math. I mean, I don't you know, all right, yes,
I know it's aprons. There we go Apron. Hey, NFL
doesn't have that. NHL nobody knows what it has. I'm
not sure exactly, So we'll move past that. Yea, And
the commissioner wants worldly appeal and he wants powow d.
(29:24):
But see, the National Football League is a league like
MLB would get there with some deep draft picks. Likewise,
for the NHL, rarely happens in the NBA. I mean,
somebody walking on from the street, even though everybody watched
his all ten in college, and all of a sudden
he makes a team and he's really really, really really good.
You still get college free agents like like Manungai, the
(29:48):
running back for the Bears. Yeah, seventh rounder from Rutgers,
Isaiah Pacheco's seventh rounder from Rutgers, the Krosskey merrit Cat
or whatever his name is. That's a great example. They
but they're offensive line. That that also a fifth, sixth,
seventh round picks or college free agent. You can still
do that in this league. So the point being, there's
so many players, injuries are so prevalent in the NBA.
(30:11):
The load management bit that there's one taking place today
or yesterday.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Where I looked at it this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Early in the season, I'm like, I can't believe what's
happening here doesn't even evolve a member of funk Suit It.
There are two players who have played like six games
in ten days, eleven days, well, neither whomever's playing Miami.
I think it's tonight. Oh really yeah? Oh it's Evan
Mobley and Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell
(30:41):
are being kept out of tonight's game against Miami. Rest reasons, restes, Okay,
now in November, right, but they're very important, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And the game is on the road, so you're not
putting an l on the home fans paying all that
money for this seats. But I mean, what if I'm
Manny in Miami and like I moved from Cayahuga Heights, Ohio. Correct,
and Donovan is my dog? Yeah, And I wanted to
see Garland but he's not playing yet. At least I'm
gonna get to see Oh, he's back, Garlin came back
last game.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
But I want to see Spider, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I want to see Spider, I'll see spiding I want
to see Modeley.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So the NFL is not that either.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And here's the point is because the parody and the
lack of a true domination by the best of the best,
ever the best, means that you get like Buffalo is
going to make the playoffs and win its division and
get a home game and just lost to Miami, so
(31:41):
that in certain situations, you know, like Oklahoma City, best
of the best losing to Portland, Okay, probably won't lose
the next three to them, but the season so long
and travels, so you get. What I'm saying here is
that that that parody bitman in the way the draft
and free agency and salary cap, lack of aprons, all
that everything's constructed.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The commissioner got to going good. Do you think do
you think the Bills are absolutely going to win that East?
Who else? Is the Patriots? My bad? My bad?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Apologies, Bills will make the playoffs. Can't say absolutely are
going because the Patriots already beat Buffalo earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, I wasn't trying to.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I got to change my face on the Patriots because
I think the Bills might be in the way that
they're I mean, you can run them.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They're giving up about fifty on the ground right now.
Now you're piling on because I was laid back to
the segment. I got it correct. I gotta change change
my face with the Patriots. Now, I accept your apologies.
I gotta change my face. I'm just I haven't I
didn't take them seriously into the Hey, here's the deal.
If you were at those joint practices with me watching
(32:47):
parts of what I watched, you, to a man, most
people would have been like, this is not a nine
and two squad eight and two whatever it is. Even
what I saw in the preseason game was not not
ready for lifting. If you had watched what I and
we saw the second day Thursday, well you would have
thought they were going to win five games.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And I'm not kidding you. I mean they got dis deroyed.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So I gotta change my face on that or just
eliminate Buffalo from that conversation. But the parody piece still
is in play. How about this one.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
This isn't as odd de tease go nfl oudities. That
is what you called it, right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, The Kansas City Chiefs are nine games into the
season and they're the only squad to have not lost
a fumble.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
How about that one? Pretty good one? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
They're the they're the only Well I should have done
that after the Thursday Night Football l The Kansas City
Chiefs are nine games into the season and they're the
only squad who have not lost a fumble. I find
that to be an oddit team, that is odd. Let
me read through one more.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, the the.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Denver Broncos are eight and two and tied for the
best record in the National Football League. Ask a layman
about the Bronx, and the first thing they'll say is, hey,
why are the Broncs so good? You're not a layman,
but just say it. Quick defense, amazing defense, Thank you,
boom cool. That defense leads the NFL and defensive pass
interference and off side penalties, and overall has the most
(34:25):
penalties of any team in the National Football League at
eighty three. The old Anti vikeuts up to his old tricks.
Isn't he forcing the officials to make call after call,
pushing the envelope without a care in the world. Actually,
there's nothing oddity about that, all right?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Really good times today. Coach is coming in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
John Hines with the Wild at nine to twenty, Finchy
Finchy about ten thirty five, Fantasy Feast with Paul Charchion
at eleven three. Thank you very much for listening to
nine to noon and for Big Daddy Kahn otherwise known
as Mad Producer on Paul Allen. Here comes the program
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