November 10, 2024 • 37 mins
PA & Charch are joined by The Athletic's Alec Lewis for most of the final hour!
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean pick your poison with that deepense.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Fifty ninth times the charm.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, it's the final hour of the Friday football have
Buffalo wild Wings up river, Welcome back, PA in Charge,
joined now by one of our favorites. He covers the
Minnesota Vikings for the Athletic and the Athletic dot com.
Ladies and gentlemen, a warm round of applause for mister
(00:49):
alec Lewis. Ladies and gentlemen, alec Lewis joining us at
the feast. Your hair looks good today, it does? Yeah,
thank you? Yeah, no problem. Hey, I like that vast
and cream colored sweatshir combo on you. You look fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, three two, we just we just finished discussing the
NFL MVP, which is the NFL like most Valuable Quarterback award.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hit.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm gonna hit you with these players because you're in
a league football mine your what hurts after that? Geez,
that's sneeze, Holy cow came out from every hole in
your body.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now, I'm gonna lay out the names and the odds here,
and you tell me where where your money would go? Okay,
Lamar Jackson plus one and you get the plus odds, right,
You're like, yeah, I'm not allowed to bet New York,
but you put up one hundred plus one seventy you
get that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, of course, Yeah, a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Lamar plus one seventy, Josh Allen plus two forty, Patty
Mahomes plus five hundred, Jared Goff plus eight hundred, Jaden
Daniels plus eight hundred, jail in your what Hurts plus
twenty twenty to one, Kirk Chains plus twenty six hundred,
Sam the Man on the Fan plus twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Where does your one mythical honey bee going?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Probably Lamar? I mean, I watched this guy and I'm
just like, I'm laughing. He's like it's He's just he's
like fading away, lobbing it up.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think if I wouldn't if it was anybody besides
Lamar on that Jared Goff.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean, I I can't get out.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Of my mind the performance that he had a US
Bank Stadium, and I, I, you're gonna make a joke here.
But I texted a coach after that game on the
Viking staff?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How is Don coriol there? You go phenomenal and he
might be dead?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I think and after that was after the game
it was on the Viking staff. I don't think Don
Coryell is on the Viking staff. He might not be
How is Bernie Kuchar? And the coach said to me
twenty two twenty five, what are we supposed to do?
Like Jared goff In, that game was ridiculous and it
was a great plan.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But but I I'd say, if it's not Lamar, I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Go Jared golf And then Jayden Daniels just watching it,
it's not to you know, it's been funny for me
to see some analysts who like have evaluated quarterbacks and
you're like, yeah, it's surprising to see him throw over
the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, it's not. If you watch the film of him
in college, how is Dame Brugler.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
If you watched him in college against Army, against Miszoo,
against Auburn, this guy was anticipating throws over the middle
of the field. It's why the Vikings liked him, why
Kevin O'Connor liked him, and and and so it's just
not shocking to see him produce the way he had.
But there's a lot of good names on that list,
and Sam Darnold is also one of.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Them, right hey, And of course you're an elite football mind.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So and you you you're on Twitter, you know, you
follow Twitter and news and stuff like that, so of
course you probably know this. But just in case you don't,
this Jared Goff, Amen Rossaint Brown thing, you know what
it is.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, they targeted like one hundred passes in a row
or something like he's been.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's targeted the last thirty to thirty three times. It's
somewhere in there. He's targeted Am and Ross Saint Brown.
It's been a complete that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Those guys, I mean, and golf, Like golf does not.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Get enough credit for agreed.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I mean, his his like toughness in the pocket, but
also like the arm strength, he can hit any blade
of grass on the field. He is accurate when he
throws the football. I mean, really, I came out of
that game at US Bank, like I was not familiar
with Jared Goff being that impressive, and I mean it's
it's something that I mean, every time I watch him
play I'm like, this guy's ridiculous with Jared Goff. Do
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you find yourself better appreciating him in the high red
or the low red? Really, he's the best when his
best is required, no doubt. And his play style, his
play style is great, and his process is often the progress.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
With the ops given joint right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, he goes hunting first down and those ops
are second to none.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If Kevin is listening, then I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna get a question answered at the press.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Uh, the golf has the best roster in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
At his disposal, you've got Montgomery and Gibbs and.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Aman Ross, Saint Brown and Jamison Williams and Tim Patrick
and Khalif rayman Well and Decker, Ragnow and Seoul got
right and Laporta right, and just forget about Laporta. All
you have to do is get your studs the ball
and let them go be special and not give the
game away.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And that's exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Every pass is catchable, no bad passes, no interceptions, and
just go let your studs be great.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That's all he does the most underrated aspect to me
of the Lions offense, and really like a lot of
good offenses both in college in the NFL right now
is continuity like like, I don't think enough is put
into the importance of having similar coaches and not just
the offensive coordinator but in the position rooms, the same
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offensive line, like all the continuity. And again I think
it's you know, I'm a big college football guy. When
I watch some of these teams that bring in guys
from the portal and new quarterbacks with new coordinator on
a yearly basis, I really think that affects some of
the quality of play. And so I mean really, I
as we analyze some of these games, and I think
about some of the best coaching in the NFL as
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as I cover the league, the continuity, Like think of
this Vikings offense. You have the same offensive coordinator in
West Phillips, you got Keenan McCardell. The wider's receivers coach
of the same Brian Angelico and Kevin O'Connell are as
close as anybody, like Chris Cooper the offensive line coach.
Part of the reason I think they have been so
good from a coaching perspective is the continuity beyond just
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the coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What you got against Chris O'Hara.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I like Chris O'Hara.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'm in the mix game coordinator. I don't believe is something.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you just did. I I was
just naming guys. I didn't I didn't name everybody. I
didn't name Curtis Motkins.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Why a Tony Sorentino, Now y a young Alex mentioned
you know I like college football. Uh So, I'm gonna
get this question out of the way because this could
happen the Gophers meeting the Crimson Tide in a ball game.
If Minnesota met the Alabama Crimson Tide in a ball
game this year, what would happen?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Like who wins and why? And I say that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Alec, by the way, if you're new to the Mix,
is from Aniston, Alabama. He's been around the country after
going to the University of Missouri Wesleyan. He's been around
the country writing for scribes and websites and things like that.
Started his career with a magazine called I think it
was called Swank and here we are now Buffalo Wild
Wings Olk wherever he lives in andover. So it wasn't
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really that far of a drive. So that's why we
make the Alabama references because he loves the Alabama Crimson
Tide soda does his dad John, and they watch all
the games.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I gotta say, well, first, that was great, and I'm
sure all the Elk River people in the audience are
really excited to hear that I'm where I'm from. I
know that was why they came, really to hear that
I will set. Yeah, there we go, and we got
a guy Andy here. He's been a great fan reader
and everything. But anyway, I listened to PJ flex interview
with you earlier this week and I thought he had
(08:08):
a phenomenal answer at one point where he said, you know,
we care about turnovers, explosive plays, and tackling, and he
laid it out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And you said, as you always do.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Who was this PJ? PJ Okay?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And you always say when someone says a great point,
you laid that out beautifully.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's your favorite Line's.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
When I can't wrote take it. I handwrite the radio show. Okay,
I'm not spreadsheet type everything in.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You wrote it like your four in fourth grade.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I don't have a printer at my house.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So therefore, I mean, that's just all right, And I'm
still on AOL all right, and I don't have that help.
I mean, we can keep going on and on, and
I'm not trying like some do to be different. That's
just my life. When you hear me say that, it's
generally because I can't read what my next question.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You laid that out beautifully, so so PJ told me so, Chris,
Chris Finch. Can we talk about no anyway? The point
is Alabama would crush Oh, you're out of your mind.
Darius Taylor would go for one ninety and three.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, MaTx prosper would throw for three. I don't I
don't know. I really haven't watched the Gophers.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I'm usually busy on Sunday and watching like relevant football
and self.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Wow wow about that after.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Anybody have a working cell phone number for John Prazinski
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
This is an old fashioned ass kicking right here.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
If you're gonna throw things at the stage, don't hit me.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I gotta be I've got to be honest. I've never
done that.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm gonna want to take a stray over here. No, no, miss,
they've had a good year and.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Caught a stray.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
No. I think they've done a great job this year.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Alex.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I went to a Gopher game against like Nevada earlier
this year and they performed really well against Nevada, So
I was impressed that day.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, now look, you're not You're not saving yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Right now these and and being smug like that's great
for the radio and that's not He's not truly you know,
he's playing the bit because Alan gets the bit partially.
These Alabama Crimson Tide. I mean, if you think Derrick Henry,
Joe Namath and Latrell Spreewell are going to roll in
to save the day, it ain't gonna happen. Bob or
(10:10):
either Antonio mcdizzle. These guys ain't them. And I don't
follow college football closely, but I.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Know that no Minnesota priby at Alabama this year.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All kidding aside on Hey, Theathletic dot Com And for Christmas,
you can like buy a subscription for somebody and give
it as a gift.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I was getting some really bad get out to that
parking lot some of my O Doomeran and I credited PJ.
Fleck for the for the comments on your show. Now
I feel awkward and I'm I'm getting I mean, I
don't know Latrell's Spreewell got a mention. Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The only reason I mentioned it is because with the
Gophers are going to a ball game.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Alabama always goes to ball games. And I'm talking to
bowl Honey Burnsey, I'll go for Illustrated dot Com on
the radio Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He does a good joke and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He's like laying out the teams. Well, of course he does,
because he works for a subscription based thing, and all
you guys are smarter than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
All right, three two?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Somebody caught astray the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The reason I bring it up is because Alabama is
like one of those teams if the Gophers like win
the rest of their.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Games, that they might play. So I thought I would
ask you that charge. How about if you talked about
the bikers.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yea, I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Cool, I'd love to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I gotta I gotta get back. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I have a theory that the Vikings do not need
Blake Cashman to win this game against the Jaguars, the
two one Jaguars with Mac Jones at the helm. We
don't know the intimates, the the details of his injury.
But turf toe is a lingerer. It's also one you
can aggravate pretty easily. I feel like this is a
great opportunity to be really cautious on his return, and
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I would only put him on the field if he
is at or close to one hundred percent, and otherwise
I'm saving him up. You know, this is a team
that we've got long term aspirations on and the last
thing I want to do is reset a month long
toe turf injury and put the clock back to zero
on that thing.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah. Blake talked yesterday in the locker room for the
first time since the turf toe, and he essentially said
that like part of the reason he has not played
to this point was them wanting to take a long
term do with this thing. And he said, you know,
He's like, I never you always heard about turf toe.
He's like, I've heard of other teammates have it, but
I've never actually had it myself, and and it sounds like,
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I mean, it's a big toe injury that affects your
entire kinetic chain. And so he doesn't want to overcompensate
for not being full go with the toe and effect
like the hip or the hamstring, and so I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Would expect them to be cautious.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
But I also think I mean, look like, if he's
active and he's ready to go, they're not just gonna
hold him out just to hold him out. And he's
been limited this week. If he practices fully today, I
think he will play in the game. And and so,
and I don't, I don't really. I mean, they're gonna
be smart. They've this training staff. I've tried to say
this for a long time. Like with TJ. Hockinson, a
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lot of people said, like, why is the he back?
What It's like they were gonna take a long term
view with that thing because they know how important he
is to what they want to accomplish at the end
of the year. The same goes for Blake Cashman. So
if he doesn't play Sunday, it's because they think that
is best for him long term, and that's the reason
he doesn't play. And it's nothing more than that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I'm sure that's going to be the case. It would
be different if this were the Packers. I'd be singing
a different tune about like, hey, you know, this is
an important game that you may not be able to
win with Blake Cashman, Josh Jacobs might run through you
like we've had some other running backs do when he's
and when he hasn't played. Although obviously the run defense
is way better last week. But we gets to the Jaguars,
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and I think that should factor into this. A Mac
Jones led Jaguars team that should factor into this decision.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We do a preview at the Athletic You like that plug, Yeah,
every every Friday. I only read Johnny Kay's bark. It's smart. Honestly,
we do a preview every Friday. It we we do
like biggest concerns, and my biggest concern for this weekend
is the fact that I don't really have a grave
concern and that makes me feel like uncomfortable because the NFL,
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like every every team has talent. Like I could rattle
off eight names on the Jaguars of really talented players like.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Tank Bigsby and Bisby. Tank Bixby is a.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Great running back, a Luaconet linebacker, Devin Lloyd, Uh, what's
his name from?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Von Walker? If you're gonna do rayvon Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Josh heinz Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've got good players and so to just expect the
Vikings to roll into Jacksonville and crush them.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Even though that is what I expect to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
He doesn't. He doesn't watch defense. Any of these people are.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I gotta say very quickly, I want to. I've got
a really good friend who listens every week. His name's Gunner.
It's his birthday and he said, you know, I wonder
what charge is gonna have today? Is it gonna be
Byron Murphy has given up seven Yeah, so so happy
birthday to him, Happy birthday to Mark and Plymouth. I
got a lot of friends. I know you, I know you,
I know you're always.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Know and hold on.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Andy poth In here from Elk River, elk River, Right, yeah, okay,
one is one of my better friends. And then he
rolls in. I've known the guy for years and so
he rolls in and you're like, hey, that's Andy. Uh
he did something with the athletic. He corresponds, Is that
how I sound? No, that's how you get friends. That's
a crowd.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I finally set up a bit nicely. Damn it.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honestly, I'm very happy. Whatever the crowd can do right
now to bunk on me. After my Minnesota comment. I'm
gonna be thinking about this all day. The people in.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Elk River are against me because of what I said
about Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Hey, guess what, you know what he told me last
night when I set this up Elk River. He's pulling
for mont tomorrow at four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I have no idea what manticilo is.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, you are really.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The whole world does not revolve around Tuscaloosa, Okay, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I think it revolves around the North Loop.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, Oh, there we go, right, and the lobby of
your apartment building, Well done?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All right? Three? Two?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Wait, hold on while we're while we're off off topic.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I just been off topic the lobby. We've been off
topic for like four weeks. Every time I come home
the show, we're talking about candy bars.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, but you bring this out in me.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Fortieth birthday wishes to Cody Day, who is here today,
fortieth birthday and this is the start of a celebration
weekend for him. Thank you for coming. Going So we
got all right, We got back in the bourbon bottle.
We got Tody well the birthday get I may do that.
Cody Gunner Mark we got three birthday today. It's a
big birthday in Minnesota. All right, let's go here. Dallas
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Turner got a bunch of extra work I heard. Yeah,
you may be familiar.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh you may have heard us talk about it earlier
in the show. It's we've brought this up before.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Did you have a chance to sort of look at
his game.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
What you saw?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I wonder if it matches up with what I saw
from Dallas Turner and your thoughts on whether or not
this is going to turn out to be sort of
just a one game fluke, or do you think he
did enough to stay in this twenty five snap range,
which is where he was last week.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I was impressed by him, but I wasn't surprised by
anything I saw. I mean, I felt like his athleticism,
his burst, his ability to bend on the edge, like
all that stuff is very obvious.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
That that's why he tested as well as.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
He did at the combine, and that's why they traded
up for him. You know, it's I want to talk
about Dallas, but I do want to say you mentioned
Trayvon Walker, who is the number one pick from the Jaguars.
He's twenty three years old, and he's really come on
this year. But his first couple of season in the NFL,
people are like, ah, is he a bus whatever. It
takes a long time for a lot of these younges
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edge rushers to assimilate in the NFL and to find
their footing, and so I expect for Dallas, even though
he looked good Sunday, it's still going to take more
time because past rush is very technical and it requires
high end development, and so you know, I think he
will continue to get more snap I have no question
about it. But I also know that Andrew van Geeka
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was a little banged up in that second half, and
so that was part of the reason why Dallas did
get snaps. I you know, when you watch him, he
can drop effectively in coverage.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm that that's surprised me. That's it is.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It's I mean, and he doesn't look lost when he
doesn't some of those edg rudgers ed rushers, they don't
look like and this is nothing get Patrick Jones, who
I think has had a really good year, but when
he drops into coverage, he just trying to occupy space.
He doesn't really know where he's going, what he's looking at.
Whereas Dallas Turner does, and so both in their use
of him on the edge and off the ball. To me,
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it's just gonna be an arrow up throughout.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The end of the season. And if he doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like he's the greatest ed drudger of all time by
the end of twenty twenty four, I just say be patient,
because this position requires time to develop in a league
that has no patience.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
So that's what i'd say, nicely, stay.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I think that's probably fair. And this is the one
thing I'm gonna keep watching on Dallas Turner. And I
raised this earlier in the show when he met when
we talked about him.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He did in the in run support.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
He never shed even one tackle a one blocker in
run support, and that's something I think he's gonna have
to get better at over time. It's it's still going
I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, I can't
play against the run. But if you want to be
on the field often, you know you've got to be
more effective than that. And when guys lock you up
and they're trying to push you around, it's you know,
he's got to be able to break that.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Sometimes well, and it's interesting that I come to do
the Friday Football Feast with Paul charge him and Mike
Ayers breaks.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Out, Yeah, the statistical analysis from from no, You're You're
right and something going back to training camp where it's like,
you know, Dallas is so athletics, he's got such bursts,
but is he big enough to really not big enough?
But is he can he like hold the edge. Jonathan
Gernard has been probably the best pass rusher in the
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NFL this entire season, but he has also been incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm sorry, but TJ Watt though.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
TJ Watson great player, and he's and he I don't know,
I maybe I'm overdoing what I just Jonathan Garnard is
not gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Get enough credit for what he's done.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So it's it's my job, for some reason in my
own head, to make it clear how good he's been.
T J Watts incredible. Adian Hutchinson was having a phenomenal year.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Framed it up nicely in the predictive piece I believe
when you were I shared it earlier with Greenway. I'm
like young ALLC wrote, paraphrasing that Grenard either should be
or will be in the Defensive Player of the year conversation,
but he won't win it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But what my point there was, and we were talking
about Dallas Turner, what Jonathan Garnard does so well that
never shows up in any stats, in any sacks and all.
He plays the run extremely physically and extremely well, and
that is important for edges. Now, let's say Dallas doesn't
put on a ton of weight or strength.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe he becomes more of an off the ball guy.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Like you know, when he was drafted, people compared him
to Dante High Tower Alabama, right, who played off the
ball for the Patriots and sore his His skill set
allows them to be versatile with him, which is in
a Brian Floores defense, a great quality.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Don Terrius Thomas remember don Terius Thomas, linebacker Alabama.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't remember Don Thomas.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Maybe I message his name up, but it was a
linebacker who played for the Mike.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They don't know only.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Twenty years ago though. Yeah, all right, that's seven.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
The penultimates into the second to last segment for the
Friday Football Feast. Buffalo Wild Wings up River PA. In
charge Alex Lewis from the Athletic the Athletic dot com
and learn about subscribing via the Athletic dot com. Now,
in several of your pieces that that you you've written
up to this game, one of them it was either
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a tweet or in one of your in one of
your stories about Sam Darnold, I just pulled a couple
of two from here and I added one. Donald has
seventeen touchdowns, tied for third most in the NFL. Donald
as nineteen hundred yards, fifteenth in the NFL. I'm gonna
add this one because I just know it's important to
offensive my new coaches. His yards per attempt is eight
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point six, which is fourth in the NFL. I believe
his season overall, Like, Darnold, what do you think now
that you're eight into it? When we hit halftime of
the Jags game, the season is halfway over, so we're
talking about either statistical wherewithal, metric related wherewithal, or just
like gut feeling like yeah, I trust or don't trust
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this guy.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
If I were a fan, No, I mean, it's been
incredibly impressive what he's done when you really stay take
a step back and look at it. I mean, it's it's
impossible not to just be like, I mean, if you
were to tell if you were to have told anybody halfway,
I mean before the season that halfway through he'd rake
where he does in a lot of these categories, people
would be I mean, like, wow, that's an incredible job.
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And credit goes to a lot of different people. Credit
goes to Kevin O'Connell for his intentionality with the pass game. Yeah,
credit goes to the skill players justin Jefferson is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Credit goes to the offensive.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Line, which especially on the on the tackle spots have.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Been really solid.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And then credit goes to Aaron Jones and what he's
brought to the run game.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's made things easier.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
For Sam Darland and and and then credit goes to
Sam because Sam has been mostly accurate. He has created
at times, he can push the ball downfield.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
He is tough enough to take hits in the pocket.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now, there are two stats that concern me and they
probably will until the time he's no longer here.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And that's his interception rate, and that's his sack rate.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
He throws a lot of balls that make you say, no,
I know, what are you doing? And then he takes
sacks where you're like, why are you spinning out? But
that is just I mean, you pay a guy ten
million dollars in free agency for him to give you
the production he's had. You also probably expects some of
the turnovers in the sacks and that's just gonna happen.
And it's it's a it's a balance of can you
mitigate the negatives but also accentuate what he does well,
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which just pushing the ball downfield. And I feel like
they've done a pretty good job of that. That's why
they're sixty two.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Compared to the Sam Donald of past, he is measurably
better at making bad decisions and it's it's not close,
but you know you're a different way to put that.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, go ahead, good lord.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But so he is not come from he's better.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He's is not giving games away like old Sam Donald
used to.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
He wasn't at birth. He was dropped by a stork.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And he will and he's giving you some He's giving
you some intermediate and big plays that Kevin O'Connell wants
in this offense for sure. And when you signed Sam Donald,
you knew you were going to get some of that.
That's what you signed up for. It's not like Nick
Mullens last year. The whole thing's way more controlled than that.
But if you want some of the explosive plays Mullins catchl.
(25:52):
We love Nick Mullens, but that's you know, we know
the mo on Nick Mullins. He's he's just you know,
chuck it up, guyolo, yolo passer. I feel like Sam
gives you the upside. You have to have to generate
big plays exactly right, and this offense needs that. And
you know you can't just be dump off short stuff.
You've got to be able to take your shot.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Well, you say this offense needs that, I mean the
reality this offense is that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Explosive passing game is the identity of what Kevin O'Connell
has done offensively since he got here. It is right now.
I believe their second and explosive passes. And again that
is with Sam Darnold as their quarterback. If they push
the ball down field, they hunt passes over the middle
to Justin Jefferson for twenty four yards. Yeah, they try
to get the ball.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That is again, it is the identity. There are times
where you're watching it and you're like, run the ball more,
but the reality is like the explosion. I've said this
on the radio with you guys so many times. Explosive
plays are the second most predictive stat to winning games.
Can you create them? Can you limit them defensively? And
they create them through the passing game. It is hard
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to go down the field in twelve plays over and
over and over consistently. So what they do in the
explosive passing game is a testament to both coaching skill
players and then again Sam's abilities. He's been pretty accurate
throwing the ball down field.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I know you want to say what the most predictive
stat is, because we didn't we haven't.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Said it like two weeks.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Turnovers, turnovers, turnover margin, right, and and that's where this game,
like I start to get a little antsy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Just because it's like, what's the only thing to me
that can probably lose this game is like miss miss
handoffs where somehow the ball bounces off Aaron Jones arm
and falls on the ground, or just like fumbles reaching
over the goal line. Stuff like that, to me is
the way the Vikings lose this game.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's how confident I am in it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I just it's just the coaching matchup to me is
is a It's not even remotely close. And then the
talent gap to me is pretty obvious as well.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You're why why would you not mention Tank Bigsby? He
can go ruin this? Love Ta bigs I love Tank Bigsby.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I know, Okay, I'm not down.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Just like you guys acted last week like Joe Flacco
was a mixture of Joe Montana and Don Coryelle.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I mean you guys were Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh my god, Joe, this Joe Flacco guy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Let me tell you al.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Oh you mean the former Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, No, that was like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I appreciate it, but I'm like forty the super interesting
stuff here. I'm like forty percent into the game calling
depth chart, but I haven't really gone deep dibbing on
Jacksonville's offense yet.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Sucked.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, I know the name Tank Bigsby. I have no
idea how long he's been in the league. Whence he
came They righted the athletic where he came from, and
and like, what what what are we liking so much
here about Tank Bigsby?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
No, he's great.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
He played at Auburn and he was a phenomenal running
back in college at Auburn, right, and and when he
got drafted there, I kind of wondered, like, etn you
know that he's a guy who's been given a lot
of carries there. He's got some dynamic to him. But
Tank Bigsby is a good player. But I don't know
you and I must not. You must not know that
the Vikings have the top three run defense in the NFL.
(29:13):
And that is like I wrote about this earlier this week.
But you know, for for trade deadline stuff, it's like
they need and Nordo says it all the time, we
need a three technique who can rush the passer, and
they do, and whether it's the first round in the
NFL Draft or whether it's free agency this upcoming cycle,
I guarantee they will they will look at making that happen.
But but credit is owed to Harrison Phillips, to Jonathan Bullard,
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and to Jerry Tillery for what they have done stopping
the run. It never gets talked about. Those guys never
get mentioned. But if you really watch down to down
what they do and keeping the offense in long downs
and distances, it is a critical aspect to what they've
done in this season.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, Tank Bigsby, do you know do you know Matt
Jones' real name mccorkyl.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, were you listening earlier? Did you know that I knew?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Okay, he played at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Good.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Did it win national championship or lose to Georgia?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I think they did all right.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He also threw for three hundred and eighty against that
Donna till two years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Three eight looks everybody threw for three eighty against a Donatel.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I didn't say they did.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Donatel was not running around, by the way, it happened
to be cam Danceler, and it's tough for anybody to
win with Cam Danceler.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
But we digressed three two.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's so mean.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now hold on because because it's it's too low hanging
for me. There are a lot of other things that
went into that defense. Mccorkyl, Michael McCorkle Jones. That's his name, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Mccorkyl, mccorkyl day, mccorkyl.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Unbelievable, kind of looked like a mccorkyl really little gun,
more like like corky.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Hold on, who looks more like somebody who would be
named McCorkle me or Alec. Thank you, wow, McCorkle, Alec,
you got lit up on that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That guy laid up in Elk River all day. I mean,
I can't wait to get out of Elk River if.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I can get out alive. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Tank Bigsby, Uh you know his real name, Cartavius Bigsby, Cartavius,
caes Car car Carr Cartavious.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I like it Cartavis Bigsby. Let's see what church is
loving here. Okay, what are you on? Red zone dot
org u No, bro No, that's where that's where people
from the athletic go okay, I go to Pro Football Reference. Yeah, oh, Tank, oh,
I see what you're saying. Eight carries twenty two yards,
no touchdowns against the Eagles, eighteen for seventy eight, no
(31:37):
touchdowns against that vaunted Green Bay rushing defense. Uh, you're
you're heaven carries twenty four yards, zero touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I guess the Bears, I mean eighty five.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So anyway, I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Telling you this guy's good.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You you watched this guy's gonna he's gonna break some tackle.
He's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But he's an old school back.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He really is.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And he's two years I don't know if he's gonna
be a problem. He might be like a little nuisance.
It'll be, you know, maybe more of a nuisance.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
You're you know, if discretion is a better part of valor,
I don't know what that means. You say it time.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
You say that like almost every day on the radio,
discretion is the better means I've spread out five wide
on fourth and one because I know my passing game
is the elite of all elite ever do elite.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But you know what, I could probably plunge ahead and
run in say fashion for a foot and a half,
even though I got this super special pass game with
five wide and you can't cover any of them. That's
valor being the better part of discretion.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I would bring that up.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's well done. It's well done.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But discretion being the better part of valor is probably
doing the safe thing. You know, No, I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Here's your Minnesota run d You're the journalist who went
to nine years of college. I went to junior college.
You're supposed to know what that means. It's a good phrase,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Minnesota ranks third in run defense EPA. They rank number
one in run defense. What's ce points allowed and added?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
And so effectively? Like every play that who determines the
expectation it's not an expectation, think it's a production thing.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
There is.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
There is also an expectation stat well, because I mean
radio the litigate.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But if you have some l establishing the expectation, why
should I believe it?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, you don't have. You don't have to because this
is not that is not bad. I never like this
is the best radio p Yeah right, Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Minnesota has the lowest opposing rushing play percentage. Teams just
don't you know Vikings are playing from ahead, a lot
of teams don't even bother to run the ball very much,
and they're seeing the fewest rushes per game.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, I thought that like watching the last night's game
with the Ravens and the Bengals, that that was what
was so interesting to me is the Ravens had the
best run game in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They were down twenty one seven, so you kind.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Of knew they had to throw, and then they proved
that they could absolutely still throw. And so that's like
Kevin O'Connell said this last week when they went down
on that final drive in ice the game, He's like,
they knew we were running. We knew we were running,
and we ran the football. And to me, that is
like one of the few times in his time here
that I can really remember, yeah, them doing that, and
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that was an important aspect. Cam Aker's performance in that game.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
To me was critical. You know you know what that
was what Kevin did? I discrete him being the better
part of Valor just give me your best thirty seconds
on this. Okay, All right, elk River, You're gonna love
young Alec on the last thing he's gonna share because
it's right there at the Athletic Theathletic dot Com. He
predicts the Vikings win at least eleven games this year
(34:42):
and they win at least one playoff game. Give us
your best thirty seconds on how you got there. Well,
it starts with this month. You gotta they beat the Colts.
You have to win this game against the Jaguars. Then
you have to beat the Titans with Mason Rudolph. The
Titans have a pretty good defense, not a phenomenal defense.
So then you're eight and two.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
They play the Bears twice, they play the Cardinals at home,
and they play the Falcons at home. All those are
gonna be winnable games. To me, it's really this month
has to be an undefeated month. That sets you up
for a really fun stretcher on in Elk River in
mont Sola.
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alec Lewis. Ladies and gentlemen, alec Lewis joining us at
the feast. Your hair looks good today, it does? Yeah,
thank you? Yeah, no problem. Hey, I like that vast
and cream colored sweatshir combo on you. You look fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, three two, we just we just finished discussing the
NFL MVP, which is the NFL like most Valuable Quarterback award.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hit.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm gonna hit you with these players because you're in
a league football mine your what hurts after that? Geez,
that's sneeze, Holy cow came out from every hole in
your body.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now, I'm gonna lay out the names and the odds here,
and you tell me where where your money would go? Okay,
Lamar Jackson plus one and you get the plus odds, right,
You're like, yeah, I'm not allowed to bet New York,
but you put up one hundred plus one seventy you
get that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, of course, Yeah, a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Lamar plus one seventy, Josh Allen plus two forty, Patty
Mahomes plus five hundred, Jared Goff plus eight hundred, Jaden
Daniels plus eight hundred, jail in your what Hurts plus
twenty twenty to one, Kirk Chains plus twenty six hundred,
Sam the Man on the Fan plus twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Where does your one mythical honey bee going?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Probably Lamar? I mean, I watched this guy and I'm
just like, I'm laughing. He's like it's He's just he's
like fading away, lobbing it up.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think if I wouldn't if it was anybody besides
Lamar on that Jared Goff.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean, I I can't get out.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Of my mind the performance that he had a US
Bank Stadium, and I, I, you're gonna make a joke here.
But I texted a coach after that game on the
Viking staff?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How is Don coriol there? You go phenomenal and he
might be dead?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I think and after that was after the game
it was on the Viking staff. I don't think Don
Coryell is on the Viking staff. He might not be
How is Bernie Kuchar? And the coach said to me
twenty two twenty five, what are we supposed to do?
Like Jared goff In, that game was ridiculous and it
was a great plan.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But but I I'd say, if it's not Lamar, I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Go Jared golf And then Jayden Daniels just watching it,
it's not to you know, it's been funny for me
to see some analysts who like have evaluated quarterbacks and
you're like, yeah, it's surprising to see him throw over
the middle of the field.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, it's not. If you watch the film of him
in college, how is Dame Brugler.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
If you watched him in college against Army, against Miszoo,
against Auburn, this guy was anticipating throws over the middle
of the field. It's why the Vikings liked him, why
Kevin O'Connor liked him, and and and so it's just
not shocking to see him produce the way he had.
But there's a lot of good names on that list,
and Sam Darnold is also one of.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Them, right hey, And of course you're an elite football mind.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So and you you you're on Twitter, you know, you
follow Twitter and news and stuff like that, so of
course you probably know this. But just in case you don't,
this Jared Goff, Amen Rossaint Brown thing, you know what
it is.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, they targeted like one hundred passes in a row
or something like he's been.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's targeted the last thirty to thirty three times. It's
somewhere in there. He's targeted Am and Ross Saint Brown.
It's been a complete that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Those guys, I mean, and golf, Like golf does not.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Get enough credit for agreed.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I mean, his his like toughness in the pocket, but
also like the arm strength, he can hit any blade
of grass on the field. He is accurate when he
throws the football. I mean, really, I came out of
that game at US Bank, like I was not familiar
with Jared Goff being that impressive, and I mean it's
it's something that I mean, every time I watch him
play I'm like, this guy's ridiculous with Jared Goff. Do
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you find yourself better appreciating him in the high red
or the low red? Really, he's the best when his
best is required, no doubt. And his play style, his
play style is great, and his process is often the progress.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
With the ops given joint right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, he goes hunting first down and those ops
are second to none.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If Kevin is listening, then I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna get a question answered at the press.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Uh, the golf has the best roster in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
At his disposal, you've got Montgomery and Gibbs and.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Aman Ross, Saint Brown and Jamison Williams and Tim Patrick
and Khalif rayman Well and Decker, Ragnow and Seoul got
right and Laporta right, and just forget about Laporta. All
you have to do is get your studs the ball
and let them go be special and not give the
game away.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And that's exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Every pass is catchable, no bad passes, no interceptions, and
just go let your studs be great.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
That's all he does the most underrated aspect to me
of the Lions offense, and really like a lot of
good offenses both in college in the NFL right now
is continuity like like, I don't think enough is put
into the importance of having similar coaches and not just
the offensive coordinator but in the position rooms, the same
(05:49):
offensive line, like all the continuity. And again I think
it's you know, I'm a big college football guy. When
I watch some of these teams that bring in guys
from the portal and new quarterbacks with new coordinator on
a yearly basis, I really think that affects some of
the quality of play. And so I mean really, I
as we analyze some of these games, and I think
about some of the best coaching in the NFL as
(06:12):
as I cover the league, the continuity, Like think of
this Vikings offense. You have the same offensive coordinator in
West Phillips, you got Keenan McCardell. The wider's receivers coach
of the same Brian Angelico and Kevin O'Connell are as
close as anybody, like Chris Cooper the offensive line coach.
Part of the reason I think they have been so
good from a coaching perspective is the continuity beyond just
(06:32):
the coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What you got against Chris O'Hara.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I like Chris O'Hara.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'm in the mix game coordinator. I don't believe is something.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you just did. I I was
just naming guys. I didn't I didn't name everybody. I
didn't name Curtis Motkins.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Why a Tony Sorentino, Now y a young Alex mentioned
you know I like college football. Uh So, I'm gonna
get this question out of the way because this could
happen the Gophers meeting the Crimson Tide in a ball game.
If Minnesota met the Alabama Crimson Tide in a ball
game this year, what would happen?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Like who wins and why? And I say that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Alec, by the way, if you're new to the Mix,
is from Aniston, Alabama. He's been around the country after
going to the University of Missouri Wesleyan. He's been around
the country writing for scribes and websites and things like that.
Started his career with a magazine called I think it
was called Swank and here we are now Buffalo Wild
Wings Olk wherever he lives in andover. So it wasn't
(07:36):
really that far of a drive. So that's why we
make the Alabama references because he loves the Alabama Crimson
Tide soda does his dad John, and they watch all
the games.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I gotta say, well, first, that was great, and I'm
sure all the Elk River people in the audience are
really excited to hear that I'm where I'm from. I
know that was why they came, really to hear that
I will set. Yeah, there we go, and we got
a guy Andy here. He's been a great fan reader
and everything. But anyway, I listened to PJ flex interview
with you earlier this week and I thought he had
(08:08):
a phenomenal answer at one point where he said, you know,
we care about turnovers, explosive plays, and tackling, and he
laid it out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And you said, as you always do.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Who was this PJ? PJ Okay?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And you always say when someone says a great point,
you laid that out beautifully.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's your favorite Line's.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
When I can't wrote take it. I handwrite the radio show. Okay,
I'm not spreadsheet type everything in.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You wrote it like your four in fourth grade.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I don't have a printer at my house.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So therefore, I mean, that's just all right, And I'm
still on AOL all right, and I don't have that help.
I mean, we can keep going on and on, and
I'm not trying like some do to be different. That's
just my life. When you hear me say that, it's
generally because I can't read what my next question.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You laid that out beautifully, so so PJ told me so, Chris,
Chris Finch. Can we talk about no anyway? The point
is Alabama would crush Oh, you're out of your mind.
Darius Taylor would go for one ninety and three.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, MaTx prosper would throw for three. I don't I
don't know. I really haven't watched the Gophers.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I'm usually busy on Sunday and watching like relevant football
and self.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Wow wow about that after.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Anybody have a working cell phone number for John Prazinski
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
This is an old fashioned ass kicking right here.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
If you're gonna throw things at the stage, don't hit me.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I gotta be I've got to be honest. I've never
done that.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm gonna want to take a stray over here. No, no, miss,
they've had a good year and.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Caught a stray.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
No. I think they've done a great job this year.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Alex.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I went to a Gopher game against like Nevada earlier
this year and they performed really well against Nevada, So
I was impressed that day.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, now look, you're not You're not saving yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Right now these and and being smug like that's great
for the radio and that's not He's not truly you know,
he's playing the bit because Alan gets the bit partially.
These Alabama Crimson Tide. I mean, if you think Derrick Henry,
Joe Namath and Latrell Spreewell are going to roll in
to save the day, it ain't gonna happen. Bob or
(10:10):
either Antonio mcdizzle. These guys ain't them. And I don't
follow college football closely, but I.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Know that no Minnesota priby at Alabama this year.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All kidding aside on Hey, Theathletic dot Com And for Christmas,
you can like buy a subscription for somebody and give
it as a gift.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I was getting some really bad get out to that
parking lot some of my O Doomeran and I credited PJ.
Fleck for the for the comments on your show. Now
I feel awkward and I'm I'm getting I mean, I
don't know Latrell's Spreewell got a mention. Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The only reason I mentioned it is because with the
Gophers are going to a ball game.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Alabama always goes to ball games. And I'm talking to
bowl Honey Burnsey, I'll go for Illustrated dot Com on
the radio Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He does a good joke and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He's like laying out the teams. Well, of course he does,
because he works for a subscription based thing, and all
you guys are smarter than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
All right, three two?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Somebody caught astray the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The reason I bring it up is because Alabama is
like one of those teams if the Gophers like win
the rest of their.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Games, that they might play. So I thought I would
ask you that charge. How about if you talked about
the bikers.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yea, I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Cool, I'd love to do that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I gotta I gotta get back. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I have a theory that the Vikings do not need
Blake Cashman to win this game against the Jaguars, the
two one Jaguars with Mac Jones at the helm. We
don't know the intimates, the the details of his injury.
But turf toe is a lingerer. It's also one you
can aggravate pretty easily. I feel like this is a
great opportunity to be really cautious on his return, and
(11:53):
I would only put him on the field if he
is at or close to one hundred percent, and otherwise
I'm saving him up. You know, this is a team
that we've got long term aspirations on and the last
thing I want to do is reset a month long
toe turf injury and put the clock back to zero
on that thing.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah. Blake talked yesterday in the locker room for the
first time since the turf toe, and he essentially said
that like part of the reason he has not played
to this point was them wanting to take a long
term do with this thing. And he said, you know,
He's like, I never you always heard about turf toe.
He's like, I've heard of other teammates have it, but
I've never actually had it myself, and and it sounds like,
(12:29):
I mean, it's a big toe injury that affects your
entire kinetic chain. And so he doesn't want to overcompensate
for not being full go with the toe and effect
like the hip or the hamstring, and so I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Would expect them to be cautious.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
But I also think I mean, look like, if he's
active and he's ready to go, they're not just gonna
hold him out just to hold him out. And he's
been limited this week. If he practices fully today, I
think he will play in the game. And and so,
and I don't, I don't really. I mean, they're gonna
be smart. They've this training staff. I've tried to say
this for a long time. Like with TJ. Hockinson, a
(13:03):
lot of people said, like, why is the he back?
What It's like they were gonna take a long term
view with that thing because they know how important he
is to what they want to accomplish at the end
of the year. The same goes for Blake Cashman. So
if he doesn't play Sunday, it's because they think that
is best for him long term, and that's the reason
he doesn't play. And it's nothing more than that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I'm sure that's going to be the case. It would
be different if this were the Packers. I'd be singing
a different tune about like, hey, you know, this is
an important game that you may not be able to
win with Blake Cashman, Josh Jacobs might run through you
like we've had some other running backs do when he's
and when he hasn't played. Although obviously the run defense
is way better last week. But we gets to the Jaguars,
(13:43):
and I think that should factor into this. A Mac
Jones led Jaguars team that should factor into this decision.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We do a preview at the Athletic You like that plug, Yeah,
every every Friday. I only read Johnny Kay's bark. It's smart. Honestly,
we do a preview every Friday. It we we do
like biggest concerns, and my biggest concern for this weekend
is the fact that I don't really have a grave
concern and that makes me feel like uncomfortable because the NFL,
(14:10):
like every every team has talent. Like I could rattle
off eight names on the Jaguars of really talented players like.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Tank Bigsby and Bisby. Tank Bixby is a.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Great running back, a Luaconet linebacker, Devin Lloyd, Uh, what's
his name from?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Von Walker? If you're gonna do rayvon Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Josh heinz Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've got good players and so to just expect the
Vikings to roll into Jacksonville and crush them.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Even though that is what I expect to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
He doesn't. He doesn't watch defense. Any of these people are.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I gotta say very quickly, I want to. I've got
a really good friend who listens every week. His name's Gunner.
It's his birthday and he said, you know, I wonder
what charge is gonna have today? Is it gonna be
Byron Murphy has given up seven Yeah, so so happy
birthday to him, Happy birthday to Mark and Plymouth. I
got a lot of friends. I know you, I know you,
I know you're always.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Know and hold on.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Andy poth In here from Elk River, elk River, Right, yeah, okay,
one is one of my better friends. And then he
rolls in. I've known the guy for years and so
he rolls in and you're like, hey, that's Andy. Uh
he did something with the athletic. He corresponds, Is that
how I sound? No, that's how you get friends. That's
a crowd.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I finally set up a bit nicely. Damn it.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honestly, I'm very happy. Whatever the crowd can do right
now to bunk on me. After my Minnesota comment. I'm
gonna be thinking about this all day. The people in.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Elk River are against me because of what I said
about Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Hey, guess what, you know what he told me last
night when I set this up Elk River. He's pulling
for mont tomorrow at four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I have no idea what manticilo is.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, you are really.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The whole world does not revolve around Tuscaloosa, Okay, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I think it revolves around the North Loop.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, Oh, there we go, right, and the lobby of
your apartment building, Well done?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All right? Three? Two?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Wait, hold on while we're while we're off off topic.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I just been off topic the lobby. We've been off
topic for like four weeks. Every time I come home
the show, we're talking about candy bars.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, but you bring this out in me.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Fortieth birthday wishes to Cody Day, who is here today,
fortieth birthday and this is the start of a celebration
weekend for him. Thank you for coming. Going So we
got all right, We got back in the bourbon bottle.
We got Tody well the birthday get I may do that.
Cody Gunner Mark we got three birthday today. It's a
big birthday in Minnesota. All right, let's go here. Dallas
(16:43):
Turner got a bunch of extra work I heard. Yeah,
you may be familiar.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh you may have heard us talk about it earlier
in the show. It's we've brought this up before.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Did you have a chance to sort of look at
his game.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
What you saw?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I wonder if it matches up with what I saw
from Dallas Turner and your thoughts on whether or not
this is going to turn out to be sort of
just a one game fluke, or do you think he
did enough to stay in this twenty five snap range,
which is where he was last week.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I was impressed by him, but I wasn't surprised by
anything I saw. I mean, I felt like his athleticism,
his burst, his ability to bend on the edge, like
all that stuff is very obvious.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
That that's why he tested as well as.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
He did at the combine, and that's why they traded
up for him. You know, it's I want to talk
about Dallas, but I do want to say you mentioned
Trayvon Walker, who is the number one pick from the Jaguars.
He's twenty three years old, and he's really come on
this year. But his first couple of season in the NFL,
people are like, ah, is he a bus whatever. It
takes a long time for a lot of these younges
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edge rushers to assimilate in the NFL and to find
their footing, and so I expect for Dallas, even though
he looked good Sunday, it's still going to take more
time because past rush is very technical and it requires
high end development, and so you know, I think he
will continue to get more snap I have no question
about it. But I also know that Andrew van Geeka
(18:04):
was a little banged up in that second half, and
so that was part of the reason why Dallas did
get snaps. I you know, when you watch him, he
can drop effectively in coverage.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm that that's surprised me. That's it is.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It's I mean, and he doesn't look lost when he
doesn't some of those edg rudgers ed rushers, they don't
look like and this is nothing get Patrick Jones, who
I think has had a really good year, but when
he drops into coverage, he just trying to occupy space.
He doesn't really know where he's going, what he's looking at.
Whereas Dallas Turner does, and so both in their use
of him on the edge and off the ball. To me,
(18:36):
it's just gonna be an arrow up throughout.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The end of the season. And if he doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like he's the greatest ed drudger of all time by
the end of twenty twenty four, I just say be patient,
because this position requires time to develop in a league
that has no patience.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
So that's what i'd say, nicely, stay.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I think that's probably fair. And this is the one
thing I'm gonna keep watching on Dallas Turner. And I
raised this earlier in the show when he met when
we talked about him.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He did in the in run support.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
He never shed even one tackle a one blocker in
run support, and that's something I think he's gonna have
to get better at over time. It's it's still going
I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, I can't
play against the run. But if you want to be
on the field often, you know you've got to be
more effective than that. And when guys lock you up
and they're trying to push you around, it's you know,
he's got to be able to break that.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Sometimes well, and it's interesting that I come to do
the Friday Football Feast with Paul charge him and Mike
Ayers breaks.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Out, Yeah, the statistical analysis from from no, You're You're
right and something going back to training camp where it's like,
you know, Dallas is so athletics, he's got such bursts,
but is he big enough to really not big enough?
But is he can he like hold the edge. Jonathan
Gernard has been probably the best pass rusher in the
(19:52):
NFL this entire season, but he has also been incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm sorry, but TJ Watt though.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
TJ Watson great player, and he's and he I don't know,
I maybe I'm overdoing what I just Jonathan Garnard is
not gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Get enough credit for what he's done.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So it's it's my job, for some reason in my
own head, to make it clear how good he's been.
T J Watts incredible. Adian Hutchinson was having a phenomenal year.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Framed it up nicely in the predictive piece I believe
when you were I shared it earlier with Greenway. I'm
like young ALLC wrote, paraphrasing that Grenard either should be
or will be in the Defensive Player of the year conversation,
but he won't win it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But what my point there was, and we were talking
about Dallas Turner, what Jonathan Garnard does so well that
never shows up in any stats, in any sacks and all.
He plays the run extremely physically and extremely well, and
that is important for edges. Now, let's say Dallas doesn't
put on a ton of weight or strength.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe he becomes more of an off the ball guy.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Like you know, when he was drafted, people compared him
to Dante High Tower Alabama, right, who played off the
ball for the Patriots and sore his His skill set
allows them to be versatile with him, which is in
a Brian Floores defense, a great quality.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Don Terrius Thomas remember don Terius Thomas, linebacker Alabama.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't remember Don Thomas.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Maybe I message his name up, but it was a
linebacker who played for the Mike.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They don't know only.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Twenty years ago though. Yeah, all right, that's seven.
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
The penultimates into the second to last segment for the
Friday Football Feast. Buffalo Wild Wings up River PA. In
charge Alex Lewis from the Athletic the Athletic dot com
and learn about subscribing via the Athletic dot com. Now,
in several of your pieces that that you you've written
up to this game, one of them it was either
(22:46):
a tweet or in one of your in one of
your stories about Sam Darnold, I just pulled a couple
of two from here and I added one. Donald has
seventeen touchdowns, tied for third most in the NFL. Donald
as nineteen hundred yards, fifteenth in the NFL. I'm gonna
add this one because I just know it's important to
offensive my new coaches. His yards per attempt is eight
(23:09):
point six, which is fourth in the NFL. I believe
his season overall, Like, Darnold, what do you think now
that you're eight into it? When we hit halftime of
the Jags game, the season is halfway over, so we're
talking about either statistical wherewithal, metric related wherewithal, or just
like gut feeling like yeah, I trust or don't trust
(23:31):
this guy.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
If I were a fan, No, I mean, it's been
incredibly impressive what he's done when you really stay take
a step back and look at it. I mean, it's it's
impossible not to just be like, I mean, if you
were to tell if you were to have told anybody halfway,
I mean before the season that halfway through he'd rake
where he does in a lot of these categories, people
would be I mean, like, wow, that's an incredible job.
(23:53):
And credit goes to a lot of different people. Credit
goes to Kevin O'Connell for his intentionality with the pass game. Yeah,
credit goes to the skill players justin Jefferson is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Credit goes to the offensive.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Line, which especially on the on the tackle spots have.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Been really solid.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And then credit goes to Aaron Jones and what he's
brought to the run game.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
That's made things easier.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
For Sam Darland and and and then credit goes to
Sam because Sam has been mostly accurate. He has created
at times, he can push the ball downfield.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
He is tough enough to take hits in the pocket.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Now, there are two stats that concern me and they
probably will until the time he's no longer here.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And that's his interception rate, and that's his sack rate.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
He throws a lot of balls that make you say, no,
I know, what are you doing? And then he takes
sacks where you're like, why are you spinning out? But
that is just I mean, you pay a guy ten
million dollars in free agency for him to give you
the production he's had. You also probably expects some of
the turnovers in the sacks and that's just gonna happen.
And it's it's a it's a balance of can you
mitigate the negatives but also accentuate what he does well,
(24:59):
which just pushing the ball downfield. And I feel like
they've done a pretty good job of that. That's why
they're sixty two.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Compared to the Sam Donald of past, he is measurably
better at making bad decisions and it's it's not close,
but you know you're a different way to put that.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, go ahead, good lord.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But so he is not come from he's better.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He's is not giving games away like old Sam Donald
used to.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
He wasn't at birth. He was dropped by a stork.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And he will and he's giving you some He's giving
you some intermediate and big plays that Kevin O'Connell wants
in this offense for sure. And when you signed Sam Donald,
you knew you were going to get some of that.
That's what you signed up for. It's not like Nick
Mullens last year. The whole thing's way more controlled than that.
But if you want some of the explosive plays Mullins catchl.
(25:52):
We love Nick Mullens, but that's you know, we know
the mo on Nick Mullins. He's he's just you know,
chuck it up, guyolo, yolo passer. I feel like Sam
gives you the upside. You have to have to generate
big plays exactly right, and this offense needs that. And
you know you can't just be dump off short stuff.
You've got to be able to take your shot.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Well, you say this offense needs that, I mean the
reality this offense is that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Explosive passing game is the identity of what Kevin O'Connell
has done offensively since he got here. It is right now.
I believe their second and explosive passes. And again that
is with Sam Darnold as their quarterback. If they push
the ball down field, they hunt passes over the middle
to Justin Jefferson for twenty four yards. Yeah, they try
to get the ball.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That is again, it is the identity. There are times
where you're watching it and you're like, run the ball more,
but the reality is like the explosion. I've said this
on the radio with you guys so many times. Explosive
plays are the second most predictive stat to winning games.
Can you create them? Can you limit them defensively? And
they create them through the passing game. It is hard
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to go down the field in twelve plays over and
over and over consistently. So what they do in the
explosive passing game is a testament to both coaching skill
players and then again Sam's abilities. He's been pretty accurate
throwing the ball down field.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I know you want to say what the most predictive
stat is, because we didn't we haven't.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Said it like two weeks.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Turnovers, turnovers, turnover margin, right, and and that's where this game,
like I start to get a little antsy.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Just because it's like, what's the only thing to me
that can probably lose this game is like miss miss
handoffs where somehow the ball bounces off Aaron Jones arm
and falls on the ground, or just like fumbles reaching
over the goal line. Stuff like that, to me is
the way the Vikings lose this game.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That's how confident I am in it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I just it's just the coaching matchup to me is
is a It's not even remotely close. And then the
talent gap to me is pretty obvious as well.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You're why why would you not mention Tank Bigsby? He
can go ruin this? Love Ta bigs I love Tank Bigsby.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I know, Okay, I'm not down.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Just like you guys acted last week like Joe Flacco
was a mixture of Joe Montana and Don Coryelle.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I mean you guys were Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh my god, Joe, this Joe Flacco guy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Let me tell you al.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Oh you mean the former Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, No, that was like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I appreciate it, but I'm like forty the super interesting
stuff here. I'm like forty percent into the game calling
depth chart, but I haven't really gone deep dibbing on
Jacksonville's offense yet.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Sucked.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, I know the name Tank Bigsby. I have no
idea how long he's been in the league. Whence he
came They righted the athletic where he came from, and
and like, what what what are we liking so much
here about Tank Bigsby?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
No, he's great.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
He played at Auburn and he was a phenomenal running
back in college at Auburn, right, and and when he
got drafted there, I kind of wondered, like, etn you
know that he's a guy who's been given a lot
of carries there. He's got some dynamic to him. But
Tank Bigsby is a good player. But I don't know
you and I must not. You must not know that
the Vikings have the top three run defense in the NFL.
(29:13):
And that is like I wrote about this earlier this week.
But you know, for for trade deadline stuff, it's like
they need and Nordo says it all the time, we
need a three technique who can rush the passer, and
they do, and whether it's the first round in the
NFL Draft or whether it's free agency this upcoming cycle,
I guarantee they will they will look at making that happen.
But but credit is owed to Harrison Phillips, to Jonathan Bullard,
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and to Jerry Tillery for what they have done stopping
the run. It never gets talked about. Those guys never
get mentioned. But if you really watch down to down
what they do and keeping the offense in long downs
and distances, it is a critical aspect to what they've
done in this season.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, Tank Bigsby, do you know do you know Matt
Jones' real name mccorkyl.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, were you listening earlier? Did you know that I knew?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Okay, he played at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Good.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Did it win national championship or lose to Georgia?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I think they did all right.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
He also threw for three hundred and eighty against that
Donna till two years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Three eight looks everybody threw for three eighty against a Donatel.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I didn't say they did.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Donatel was not running around, by the way, it happened
to be cam Danceler, and it's tough for anybody to
win with Cam Danceler.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
But we digressed three two.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's so mean.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now hold on because because it's it's too low hanging
for me. There are a lot of other things that
went into that defense. Mccorkyl, Michael McCorkle Jones. That's his name, Michael.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Mccorkyl, mccorkyl day, mccorkyl.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Unbelievable, kind of looked like a mccorkyl really little gun,
more like like corky.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Hold on, who looks more like somebody who would be
named McCorkle me or Alec. Thank you, wow, McCorkle, Alec,
you got lit up on that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That guy laid up in Elk River all day. I mean,
I can't wait to get out of Elk River if.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I can get out alive. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Tank Bigsby, Uh you know his real name, Cartavius Bigsby, Cartavius,
caes Car car Carr Cartavious.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I like it Cartavis Bigsby. Let's see what church is
loving here. Okay, what are you on? Red zone dot
org u No, bro No, that's where that's where people
from the athletic go okay, I go to Pro Football Reference. Yeah, oh, Tank, oh,
I see what you're saying. Eight carries twenty two yards,
no touchdowns against the Eagles, eighteen for seventy eight, no
(31:37):
touchdowns against that vaunted Green Bay rushing defense. Uh, you're
you're heaven carries twenty four yards, zero touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I guess the Bears, I mean eighty five.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So anyway, I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Telling you this guy's good.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You you watched this guy's gonna he's gonna break some tackle.
He's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But he's an old school back.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He really is.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And he's two years I don't know if he's gonna
be a problem. He might be like a little nuisance.
It'll be, you know, maybe more of a nuisance.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
You're you know, if discretion is a better part of valor,
I don't know what that means. You say it time.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
You say that like almost every day on the radio,
discretion is the better means I've spread out five wide
on fourth and one because I know my passing game
is the elite of all elite ever do elite.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But you know what, I could probably plunge ahead and
run in say fashion for a foot and a half,
even though I got this super special pass game with
five wide and you can't cover any of them. That's
valor being the better part of discretion.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I would bring that up.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's well done. It's well done.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But discretion being the better part of valor is probably
doing the safe thing. You know, No, I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Here's your Minnesota run d You're the journalist who went
to nine years of college. I went to junior college.
You're supposed to know what that means. It's a good phrase,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Minnesota ranks third in run defense EPA. They rank number
one in run defense. What's ce points allowed and added?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
And so effectively? Like every play that who determines the
expectation it's not an expectation, think it's a production thing.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
There is.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
There is also an expectation stat well, because I mean
radio the litigate.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But if you have some l establishing the expectation, why
should I believe it?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, you don't have. You don't have to because this
is not that is not bad. I never like this
is the best radio p Yeah right, Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Minnesota has the lowest opposing rushing play percentage. Teams just
don't you know Vikings are playing from ahead, a lot
of teams don't even bother to run the ball very much,
and they're seeing the fewest rushes per game.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, I thought that like watching the last night's game
with the Ravens and the Bengals, that that was what
was so interesting to me is the Ravens had the
best run game in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They were down twenty one seven, so you kind.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Of knew they had to throw, and then they proved
that they could absolutely still throw. And so that's like
Kevin O'Connell said this last week when they went down
on that final drive in ice the game, He's like,
they knew we were running. We knew we were running,
and we ran the football. And to me, that is
like one of the few times in his time here
that I can really remember, yeah, them doing that, and
(34:16):
that was an important aspect. Cam Aker's performance in that game.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
To me was critical. You know you know what that
was what Kevin did? I discrete him being the better
part of Valor just give me your best thirty seconds
on this. Okay, All right, elk River, You're gonna love
young Alec on the last thing he's gonna share because
it's right there at the Athletic Theathletic dot Com. He
predicts the Vikings win at least eleven games this year
(34:42):
and they win at least one playoff game. Give us
your best thirty seconds on how you got there. Well,
it starts with this month. You gotta they beat the Colts.
You have to win this game against the Jaguars. Then
you have to beat the Titans with Mason Rudolph. The
Titans have a pretty good defense, not a phenomenal defense.
So then you're eight and two.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
They play the Bears twice, they play the Cardinals at home,
and they play the Falcons at home. All those are
gonna be winnable games. To me, it's really this month
has to be an undefeated month. That sets you up
for a really fun stretcher on in Elk River in
mont Sola.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Alick Lewis, ladies and gentlemen, The Athletic Vathletic dot Com,
and we thank him for stopping by the feast at
Elk River, pa in Church put a rap on it
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Speaker 3 (36:13):
That's gonna be at nine o'clock tonight.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
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Head to that American Legion tonight Jared on lead vocals,
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(36:54):
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