July 30, 2024 • 47 mins
First hour features extended Vikes bites with player audio and opinions, then Vikings OL coach Chris Kuper for a training camp chat!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, take care, Polly Wallace, and there is.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Your stopping dropping, stopping.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Sorry k fair.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Well, hoop action, hell, yes, hey, how you doing nine
to noon?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Nine to noon time for two more.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
You are one of the biggest suck ups I know.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And winter he's coming.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Thank you, Minnyeaflace, and thank each and every one of
you for listening to FM one hundred point three k
fa n from these six by one carpets plus studios.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hello, it is a talker Tuesday. I'm Paul Allen and
nor to produces. When's the last time you didn't eat
a bite of food for twenty four hours? Because that's
my lot in life right now. And akin to somebody
like marking down the days until they get out of
a certain situation, I'm marking down hours until I can
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get into a cheeseburger or some type of a big
olf that breakfast type food and good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7 (02:03):
I add some humble beginnings, we'll say down in North
fan Cato, I have not skipped a whole lot of
meals since PA.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Twenty three hours Nordo.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
I don't think i've ever I can't remember since childhood
the last time that I went twenty four hours with
some sort of.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Food substance, twenty two hours, fifty eight minutes and thirty seconds,
twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty seven, twenty six though, but
you can almost see the other side. It is. It
is indeed the countdown. Somebody's twenty four hours from seeing
the other side.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah, you know, I don't know if it's if it's
fit for YouTube per se, but at some point you're
gonna get You're gonna get up in there and the
GoPro is gonna tell the story and everything's gonna be
cleaned out, and everything's gonna be great again. You're gonna
walk in hot step in Thursday morning.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Make that cavity great again. Head in clouds right loving.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
I mean it, You'll feel twenty years younger about twenty
four hours from.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now copyright Chevy Jays from Bletch, I probably will sing
Moon River for the first time in my life because
I'm getting a Colonosco by tomorrow, and for those of
you who have had it, this will be my third.
Today is colonasca by prep day, which means we will
be vigilant with it. This is Colonasco by number three
and the first one and the first one since pre pandemic,
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and the the procedure for those of you who have
prepped for it is, I mean, you've got, you got
liquid diet, you got these pills, you got this Mirra relax.
I mean, you've got you just got a lot of
things that are that are going to lead to some
functioning uncomfortability. That is my lot in life this day.
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So here's a question. Has anybody consistently cheated at Colonaska
by prep and gotten away with it? Like mac and cheese,
maybe a certain type of cereal, maybe rice crispies. You know,
think about this, rice crispies with lime gatorade. I mean,
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how good does that sound?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Well, it's just like when I get my kids going
into the dentists.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Hey, get out of there, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
You try to put the fear of social shame in
them a little bit, like Hey, Stella, look, you can
tell me all day that you're flossing Macca, but the
dentist is going to know.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Make my crevis great again.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
The dentist is going to know, Stella, So get it
together and start flossing. Go back in there, be honest
with yourself and floss.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Similarly lots. The colon ain't gonna lie, do you flas? Yes,
got floss three times in my life. I floss because
I got.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I got a.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Couple of gaps that I guess. Now we're going, we're
going hardcore gross on a Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well, when the sun goes down, what happens to your gang?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, it gets bigger. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Anytime, anytime I eat, whether it's beef or pork or
anything like that, I got to get that out of there.
But yeah, when you roll in there, the doctor and
they look you in the eyes and they say you
followed the protocols and all that, and you say, yes,
of course, doctor, this is a very serious thing, of course.
And they take a peek in there and they see
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Mexican jello and some Kraft mac and cheese.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Now you stop that. They're gonna know that you're a fraud. Right,
So the colon doesn't lie. I think you got to
stick it out and you got to come back next week. Yeah,
sure I do. I ain't coming back next week. You're
going to be an octave higher. Hey maam, get out
of there. The anesthesia hasn't said and yet Welcome back
to the show. All right, So if you're a person
of prayer, pray that everything goes okay for your buddy
(05:47):
Paul Allen. And here we are. What's cooking today? Nine
to noon, first day of pads for your Minnesota Vikings.
Yesterday it was nondescript, which is good news because it
means no ACL's exploded and no starters left with injuries.
One on ones are today, I think a test of manlihood.
Those who lack confidence, well they're going to get bludgeoned
(06:09):
about the biggest decision I have to make today is
after taking the first two Coles Doula colex do Collax
pills after nine to noon, do I head to Minnesota
Vikings practice and memorize numbers and body types for the
life change or August tenth not really knowing, you know,
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like bodily, what's going to be happening when I'm a
Viking's training camp or if I don't go, then I
can go tomorrow. It here's what's interesting. Welcome back to
the show. The Colonoscobi's at eight thirty in the morning.
Yeah tomorrow. And so when I apprized management, or when
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I informed management that that was the time Abbott said, good,
you can get back in time for vikes bites. I
always love that. Oh, in all serious is.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Are you willing to call in after the procedure and
give us a full breakdown of how everything went?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I bet you we can coerce the into endoscopy or
the person who does it to probably call in during
said scenario and provide you with some old play by play.
But here's your biggest decision. If it takes place a
day forty, that's before the show. It is so we
can pre record. We're flexible. You have to determine. You
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have to determine if it's going to be self contained
or if while she is digging, you're just throwing to something.
I always love that one big determination there, throw in.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
And out of it, you know, Abbott, it's gonna need
an open, it's gonna need a close right well and
literally and figuratively in this particular case.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well it's it's I mean colon Askaby's at eight thirty.
You can get back in time for bikes bites. Yeah,
but the anesthesia will not have worn off. Okay, bet
I always love that one. That's my lot in life,
So one on ones I think her today. They weren't yesterday,
but I think there today. You know, darisaw versus Turner,
Grenard charging O'Neil. Maybe some maybe some goal line drills
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where they slam into each other down by the old
goal stripe, and those of the woke variety head to
Twitter to complain about the contact the hope that the
National Football League is shut down average common antennabe. Now,
we'll be out at Minnesota Vikings training camp today, t
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CEO PC. Yeah, you know them, and they'll be there
from noon until three for the walkthrough. In the first
thirty minutes of practice yesterday. Yesterday, Darnold Fine, McCarthy, Vine
p JJ, Tonion Fine, Defense Fine, Ben Gosling, Ben Gaesling
covers all of it for the Star Tribunies in studio
at ten Young, Alec joins Thursday. I did a podcast
(08:52):
with Alec Lewis yesterday. You can learn more about that
at Alec Underscore Lewis via the tweet machine if you
would like to listen back to his giggles and incessant
blurting of we're back, We're back, everybody's back, We're back.
We're hopping and skipping out there. Training camp even though
it's hot because we're back. Ya joins the mix on Thursday,
(09:15):
and we're thankful for those two gifted young men because
they sweat out every single practice and it was hot yesterday.
We welcome to welcome to you. You're welcome to offer
up Vikings related questions if you are so inclined at
the tech spot that's six four six eight six. We
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can sprinkle them in during the course of the presentation
and gives me a man nordo something to do, and
we'll we'll do our very best to oblige. And I
set up before and I'll say it again, this is
a by faith approach to a Minnesota Viking season until
we get to met life and start playing some games fucks,
(09:59):
you know, like by faith with Darnald a quarterback, he'll
fit wonderfully because his skill guys are sweet and high
end and the system is strong. By faith, those who
operated Brian Flores defense last year will be even more
secure in the demands this year, and the newbies won't
take like two months to figure it out. By faith,
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this ridiculous kickoff role is fun, and we figure out
what the potential twelfth man in the game means and
that there's a third out of bounds line known as
the twenty yard line when straddled. I always love that one.
I mean, seriously at twelve, seriously, well, we.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Can't figure out the straddle here for clocks and timing
nine to do. How are we going to figure out
the straddle in an NFL kickoff?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Right? The punter of the plus sized punter, by the way,
he's in a legit battle with Seth Vernon, who was
a receiver in college and runs like the wind. My
man runs like the wind. So do you want to
punt who can pass or a punter who can run?
I don't really care about either of those equations. I
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just want a punter that finds the Coleman corner and
pins somebody in the inside the ten each and every
time hardcore football ken Kane wan Wi play tailback. Is
that a trick they are going to attempt to expose again?
Or is he kept for the video game kickoff play?
Even if returners never may touch the ball and or
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have to deal with bouncing lining drives. Maybe the answer
is finding football players who were accomplished shortstops at one
stage of their lives so they can field, the worm
Burners scoop it up and head to the end zone
with alacrity and a plumb rock. Faber received a sweet deal.
He joins nine to noon about eleven forty five, Softy
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from Seattle is our friends on foes guest today at eleven.
He will be bombastic as ever, and we will get
out of the way and just let him blow hard.
All right, three to two, We'll get out of the
way and just let him talk. I will wonder if
his super Chickens are going to run last in the
NFC West, and he'll smash me with the Vikings have
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a better chance at finishing last than my Seahawks. Okay,
somebody undoubtedly will ask O'Connell at a press conference if
he's going to force McCarthy into games even if he's
not ready to play, because Kevin and Quasier in their
third year of four year packs, and you know, the
insinuation is one wouldn't do what's best for the team
because they're worried about themselves and instead would sabotage the
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plan to potentially secure a longer ten you're here. People
actually think like that, which is super special. Oh, with
the kickoff clip, some teams are being admonished. There was
admonishing around the National Football League yesterday and over the weekend.
Why because they're not putting the ball on the tee
the correct way. I mean, this whole thing is just
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so stupid and super duper special landing zones and straddling
the twenty and I mean, let's see if a twelve
man is permitted on the field on kickoffs and kick
returns and stuff. I mean, what the heck are they
going to do in Seattle? Are they going to change
their name to the thirteens? I always love that one.
I mean, seriously, the kickoff clip and people trying to
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put the ball on the tee in oblong fashion like
kicking like kick knuckleballs. The NFL's just are really squared
away with this thing. Well done, boys. Bikes Bites are next,
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
Boom.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
You'll be hearing that sound in the doctor's office tomorrow
around at eight thirty am. And I'm gonna wear that
thing out tomorrow. I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, I shouldn't. I shouldn't have mentioned that on the
radio today. And perchance Cotton John, my next door neighbor,
one of my best friends, is listening because tonight undoubtedly
will be the night for the first time in two years.
He whips out the grill. He whips out the grill
all the time. He's very good. He's like you. He's
an accomplished a barbecue specialist. But you'll probably make like
(14:57):
ten juicy losies. Oh, and they'll just be per made
and like a little seared on the outside, and they'll come, Hey,
you know what, even though I haven't offered this up
in two years, I'd like to bring five over to
your house, knowing that I would eat three on a
day I can't eat diseased.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
And let's start with some audio from Jonathan Grenard. Here
he is yesterday talking about Brian Flores and the defense.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
I think in general, you just want to say about
being aggressive, uh, you know, just just stab some new
line of scrimmags, create negative place so that, like I said,
we can doubt it that when he wants to. You know,
we don't do that handle our job by stopping Rono
for a second down, then we can't get the things
we want to see.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So it just stabs.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
The new ident needs to the defense and being more aggressive,
playing on their side of the balls what we all
trying to do.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
So that was Jonathan Gernard talking about the defense. Now,
Jonathan Garnard, you mentioned getting the pads on PA and
uh and what that looks like now in terms of
finally getting to see these guys hitting each other a bit.
But you mentioned the uh, the the idea that one
on ones are going to be taking place today. So
I saw this on a con on a on a
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on a potot. It was Jonathan Garnard and I think
he was joining Chris Long. And here he is talking
specifically about Dallas Turner and after the Vikings draft Dallas Turner.
Grenard's here new member of the Minnesota Vikings. Some people
were talking about his time in Houston and kind of
the the mentoring of Will Anderson, fellow former Alabama Crimson
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Tide defensive stud ghost top five and making plays his
rookie season for the Texans.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So here he is talking.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
It's about ninety seconds him talking with with Chris Long
about what he looks for in Dallas Turner.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
Turner, really high hiped guy, longstrider, different kind of guy.
What do you see from him as far as his
developments concerned, and what are the kind of moves he's
gotten his toolbox that kind of wi you early, sure, Yeah,
we kind.
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Of built similar here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
I got long legs, long glimbs, these same things, short
torsos I built.
Speaker 11 (16:52):
But my main thing is the same thing with him.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You run a four fourth, you need to get up
on them fast like you try to get here, and
that's why you know. You see all these different workout
videos where guys do these passhorts and stuff like it's
cool to work these moves, but I say, you work these,
but you have to work while still gaining ground, and
everything's gonna be set up off of this power.
Speaker 11 (17:10):
You know, you got these insanely long arms.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
If your first move is not a long arm or
some type of power to make them respect your.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Length and then give you the hands, then you're just
gonna be sitting there trying to work on moves. And
as we know, tackles on their hands they send their
waiting on. You can throw your moves now so they
can just sit there and grab.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
So I said, look, use that to your advantage if
they want to be that outside had punching God went
through their chests and then you get what you want.
Everything is not going to come mark this and there
to look for a pretty sack. I don't win pretty.
Everybody knows I don't win clean pretty rushes.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I don't like them.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I mean I feel like that gives them more chances
to come back and recover.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Might not.
Speaker 11 (17:41):
I want you to be able.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
That's why you mentioned short in my ads so if
I'm going to shut it up, if I don't care
a sack as a sack, ball is out, balls out.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
I just need to be within arms reach so I
can tit the ball out.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
I had a couple of times where I talk to
them listen tinge of mindset of just going forward wrapping
the quarterback up to Hey, all you gotta do is
get the ball off. So whatever that radius is between
your length, so you're setting up a stablished shorten it is.
You don't have to necessarily just win a perfect clean
rest Quebec standing right there while you still got a
down your arm knocked the ball up.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Simple stuff like bet so well that explanation. Can you
repeat the part of this stuff where you said all
about things Jonathan Grenard is an elite football mind. Yeah
he is.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
And that's what you're talking about the one on ones today,
Pa seeing that speed right the Dallas turner. Okay, so
we've talked about in whether it was last week with
Alec Lewis and studio you say Quasy's playing fast right now,
and that that amounted to a half hour long conversation
about the tail of two quasis. The financial stability that
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has been brought teams trying to get younger, so we
can check some boxes there, but still, ultimately these draft
picks got to come through.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I look at it.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
In that vein PA, would you would you agree or disagree?
Am I over generalizing it or being too harsh with
the fact that if Dallas Turner is health, if we're
talking about hitting on draft picks, Dallas Turner might must
show all of that speed that Grenard was talking about, all.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Of that skill and those moves.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Dallas Turner, if healthy, for the sake of winning on
draft picks, absolutely must be a defensive Rookie of the
Year candidate.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, I'm not the biggest absolute guy in the world.
So the for Dallas, he's favored to win Defensive Rookie
of the Year. He's going to play a lot. His
bookender is quite accomplished. The unpredictability of where he's going
to play in certain situations. I think specifically early in
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the season will aid Dallas Turner. But it's you know,
the fan has learned there will be a twenty twenty
five National Football League season, so therefore, well, however, Dallas
cuts his metaphorical teeth this year. Hopefully it's really good
and hopefully it continues to get better, because I mean,
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quite honestly, while while some will focus on the defensive
Rookie of the Year award, Dallas has his site set
on h o F and couldn't find the CSI Miami
thing fast enough for the Dallas h o F. What
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was his name, Horatio care Ratio.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sunglasses on a quick turn in the exit.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The bomb.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
No, absolutely, the blonde forensic scientist Kelli Ducaine the bomb. No,
they were the bomb. That's I'm not kidding you from
And I think I've told you this before, I've said
it on the radio. Maybe I haven't. But laying around
with my daughter Nicole and watching CSI Miami, Yeah, criminal
Minds and shows like that, I mean we watched a
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lot of them. Well, she's she's getting into forensic science
as a psychology and criminology double major at the University
of Colorado. So she wants to do forensic science. She
wants to be Cali Ducane, she wants to analyze the
minds of criminals. And in fact, she has an internship
ship slash a job right now at a behavioral science
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spot right outside of Boulder, that's very interesting some of
the stories she tells me. So the best laid plans, Well,
you have no idea where they're going to go.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Wow, fights, fights, vikes, Fitz thank you Thousand Hills, Duke Shelley.
He says this defense is completely different than what he
experienced in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Dondal totally different defense.
Speaker 12 (21:40):
Floria is very creative, like I said, a lot of
a lot of different things. He wanted to do, a
lot of different looks he want to bring. So it's
very just a creative defense as I can say, Like
I haven't been a part of the defense like this
creative and this opportunity to makes him any plays, So
I think it's gonna be good for my skill set
for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
More from Duke working in camp, he's trying to accomplish
just making plays.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
Man, whenever your number get called on, just go out
there and make plays. That's biggest thing. So right now
with me, I'm just trying to just learn to defense.
So when I go out there, I'm not really thinking,
I'm just going out there playing.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So that's a big state with me right now.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
So whether it's the Duke, the Duke, the Duke is
on fire. Number twenty nine is out there running around.
Number one is in shack. Griffin will be running around again,
but I don't believe he was participating in earnest yesterday.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Enter the equation Bobby Kane.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Here he is on getting the call and what he
experienced earlier in his career with Brian Flora's defense.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
You know, I got the call coming Friday, me and
floating in contact a little bit, but you know I
got the call and I was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I was.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm grateful the opportunity, you know, is a place style
was very aggressive.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You want to bring the energy.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
You gotta be good tacklers, blitzers gotta be a good
blitzer and good and open space and you know I'd
like to hang my hat on all those well.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
End of opportunity, PA and watching the video yesterday from
practice and you see Jalen Naylor running by the entire
secondary route to a long touchdown. Am I just excited
about speedy or should I? In some ways keeping perspective
the land of opportunity with this defensive back group.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Love the question with a nailer And because he's bigger, Jalen,
you know he's growing and maturing as a young man physically, mentally,
and with everything in between. But he's bigger, he's stronger,
and you could see that a training camp with the
way he gets off the line of scrimmage. It wasn't
anything noteworthy to me yesterday with the parts that I watched.
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But Jalen might be the fastest guy on the team
now that Dan Chasenna's a gunner elsewhere, Jalen Nailer is
incredibly fast at forty sixty, one hundred yards and so on.
So now coming through with an opportunity that will be
presented to him. That's why, Like when you hear Chris Cooper,
the offensive line coach fifteen minutes from now or whatever,
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you know, you'll hear him talk about offensive linemen going
into pads for the first time, and it really is.
It's analogous to the rest of the team. This is
where that rubber meets the road, where you know you've
looked really good with ABCD.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
E, F and G.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
What about the rest of the alphabet, ma'am, Because that's
where it starts to get physical, and those who lack
confidence in executing their toil will get beat.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Let me pause here. It's Vikes Bites presented by Thousand Hills.
When we come back, I have some more questions based
on the first day of pads PA and a couple
of things that stood out or maybe in these particular
person's case, did not stand out at camp. And as
you mentioned, we're going to get to hear from Chris Cooper.
You tracked him down yesterday, the old line coach at
training camp.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
This is nine to noon. It's nine to twenty nine.
Our friends on foes today. I think we're down to
three teams. We handled the Super Chickens ninety minutes from now.
That would be the Seattle Seahawks. For those new to
the listening, Covenant and Dave Softy mallor Softy from KJR
and Seattle joins at eleven. Don't miss that. You'll dig
it a with the the two pop tarts that I
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ate at eight. At eight twenty nine this morning honestly
feel like the last pieces of food I'm ever going
to eat my life. And and Johnny the Mouse Michelson,
captain of the eighty three wis at a club hockey team,
the most formidable a club hockey team in the history
of the state of hockey and mouse warre the ceau.
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He he just sent me a message regarding the procedure tomorrow.
You hope your doctor is an ex punter who knows
how to find the colon corner. I always love that one. Oh,
my man's brilliant. What job?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
What were the learned minds? What were the learned Oh?
What what were the learned minds saying about the day
one of pads on practice. When you look at at Twitter,
I say social media, But for me all it is
is Twitter. That's my only social media vibe. So when
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when crafting, what are the learned football minds saying about
day one of Pad's practice? It behooves us to begin
with ya young Alec Alec Lewis And at Alec underscore
Lewis is where you can find him via Twitter, and
he writes pretty nice ball from JJ McCarthy fitting it
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into a window on a Nick muse Crosser got a
high five from Koz afterward. The tweets perfect. The tweets perfect. Okay,
I was going to say, you know, but then the
the emotional wherewithal comes in it Hi fuzz for everybody,
says Kevin O'Connell. The tweets perfect, the tweets brilliant. He
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also tweeted at ALEC Underscore Lewis Lewis scene was out
on a practice field today, but again not in uniform.
Malik Knowles in workout clothes too. Shack Griffin was out
there watching too and walking very well. Meanwhile, TJ. Hawkinson
was doing some pretty aggressive sprints. He looks great. I
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didn't know young Alec was an expert on gate, like
how somebody walks and whether they're walking very well. I mean,
hitching the gide up is one thing, but that's just
good to know about a weekly guest nine to noon.
He's an expert of everything that involves gate. And finally
at ALEC Underscore, Lewis learning football minds watching pads on practice.
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Viking's second year dB jay Ward was mixing in at
corner today. Has played mostly safety since getting here, so
definitely interesting given position depth. What are we thinking about
Old Jay Ward, the Swiss Army Knife in his second
year from Louisiana State University, mixing in a corner of
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the con It.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Is the land of opportunity and Jay Ward a year ago,
this time pondering kind of the idea of why guys
were selected to accomplish certain roles, to fill certain roles,
they should say and what they can what they can offer.
And so we dug in a year ago to the
kind of the is there something underrated here? Is there
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something and then mixing and matching it with Brian Flores,
where Brian Flores is new to the mix, you assume
that that something had had become the had caught a
glimmer in mister Flores's eye as to why Jay Williams
was in the mix. Now, with that said, the fact
that we didn't see him doing anything except for special teams,
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we can joke now a year later that basically the
only time he popped was when there was a false
start on some sort of kick, and all of that included.
But the land of opportunity is so, is so flushing
and flourishing right now, given injuries and given the lack
of availability, and given a situation and in a position
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that that has had a dearth of talent now for
a couple of years. So whether the duke is on fire,
whether we have we have Jay Ward, excuse me now,
Jay Williams doing safety sled and doing work at corner.
Find anybody that freaking works right now, mister Flores, and
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
That's cool now.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
The one thing that I was seeing what people are
saying about the first day of pads. They were kind
of wondering, what's up with a guy who wasn't wearing pads.
Yesterday Pa Lewis seen was seen out of pads, and
that's been He's kind of been on the sidelines the
last few days in a row. PA Saucy and I
were there on Saturday and watching walk He wasn't even
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participating in the walkthrough. He was standing under the upright
while the backups in the reserves were doing their thing.
And yesterday, first day of pads, you had some guys
with with some nicks and some injuries and all of that,
and then he just had Lewis see hanging out. A
guy who's maybe his NFL life, or at least his
time on the Vikings roster is really up much for
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debate at this moment of.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Camp when it comes to contractually or his lot in
life in the National Football League. Young Lewis is hoping
that time for two more He's looking for two more years.
Cornerback Duke Shelley. This is from at Vikings Nation MN.
At Vikings Nation, MM cornerback Duke Shelley, the Duke, the Duke.
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We know the Duke is on Yeah, cornerback Duke Shelley
of your favorite football team, the Minnesota Vikings. He was
out there running around. He wasn't on the sideline. He
wasn't wondering what his lot in life was. At Vikings Nation,
MN cornerback Duke Shelley thinks the hashtag Vikings have the
best fan base in the NFL. Wait, I think of
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that best fan base in the NFL, says the Duke.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Think.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I think we do. I mean it's good. I mean
it's all. Of course, it's beauty in the eye of
what's directly in front of you. We are in the
court fields. I'm eating my mild salsa and my Tater
tot hot dish. And I grew up a Vikings fan.
Here I am. But I would say from a loyalty standpoint,
from a buy in standpoint, now the Duke gets it.
I think the Duke absolutely gets it. And he has
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acclimated himself beautifully.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
He has worn his way.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Into the hearts of Vikings fans in the land of opportunity.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So do your thing, Duke. It's the land of opportunity
with the corn nervebacks. Let's see last one at tpp skull.
I think this is our aggregating friends at Purple Persuasion
at tpp Skull. Hashtag Vikings rookie OLB Dallas Turner has
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had a solid start to camp, but was stone walled
multiple times in practice today by star left tackle Christian Darisov.
Per Will Racketts with Sports Illustrated. Christian Darisa plays on
the Minnesota Vikings offensive line. The boss of the Minnesota
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Moving Company is a man named Chris Cooper, and like
all coaches around the NFL, he got a month and
change to forget about the shields. I'm like Coop, the Coop.
The Coop is on fire doing anything interesting or fun
during that time.
Speaker 13 (32:23):
So I traveled quite a bit nice as far as interesting.
It'd be interesting to people that I traveled to Alaska,
which is my home state. I have a camp back
there every year. O Line D Line Camp. Yes, it's
a free deal. So we get anywhere between seventy and
ninety kids some years, you know, upwards of one hundred
and hundred and ten three day camp. Just do an
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O line D line drills, and then you know, back
in Minnesota for a little bit, my son is it
was playing Triple A baseball, started getting through some of
those tournaments, and then we went back or sorry, my
whole family went to Denver to go visit some family. Yeah,
and then towards the end of the break, my my
my little brother got married in.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Seattle's out there for that. What about Bismarck, We did
not make it out there as.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Shoot me not not Bismarck Grand Forks. About Grand Forks,
you go up there and you know, like.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
I did not actually did a bad alumni golf tournament
here at Legends in Prior Lake. So I saw some
guys from uh swinging dback.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, I was at that. That was cool too. Once again,
Chris Cooper, third year coach of the Minnesota Moving Companies,
the offensive line coach. And you know we we we've
called the Vikings offensive line the Minnesota Moving Company for
two decades plus and the moving man part with guys
current current roster three seventeen and less. Is it is
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it a speed meet size equation for you, you know,
with part of the group you have.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For offensive lineman, you're talking about Yeah, they're actual Wait.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, or three is three seventeen? Three seventeen for a
guard in this day and age of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Is that good? That's kind of it's kind of standard now, right. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
So more so for me, whether or not you can
move with that weight is what matters. So that the
number on the scale could say three twenty five, but
if you move as well as the guy behind you
next to you, that's three ten. I don't have a
problem with that. Because mass you can't teach it right.
There's things you can teach technique wise, concept wise, but size, length,
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athletic ability stuff you can't teach.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
So you try to bottle it up right.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
And and with pads going on yesterday, this is airing Tuesday,
when when when the pads go on with teams of
training camp around the National Football League. You know, I
don't want to overstate it, but it's a cool day.
It's a big time. It's where the rubber meets the road.
It's where you know, the first and second rounders. Over
the course of time, we're a fast and have all
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the measurables. Then they get hit and then you never
hear from them again. You know, it's so so like
what excites you about this time of the year as
an offensive line comes.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Well, specifically for our position O line D line, you know,
I'm sure you know the in tier five to the
front seven of the defense feels the same way. Is
that I get a good idea of how a guy
moves in shorts with no pads on. But because we're
limited on the amount of times we can actually wear pads.
I mean, I think it's ten in training camp and
Josh McCowan and I were joking when we were playing
you might have got to your tenth padded practice after
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seven days.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, and that was the first of two a days,
right maybe right?
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Yeah, So so yeah, these these practices are important, one
for evaluation and two to get the guys in shape
some kind some coaches like say callous. There is some
kind of callous being being understood that you can work
through this soreness? Is it pain? Is it soreness? Is
it an injury? Is it something that you're gonna be
out for? But the point is you got to find
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a way to fight through this stuff. If it's if
you're just hurt, it's not an injury. Right, We're gonna
have to play through this throughout the season. So this
is kind of the time of year where you get
a little taste of it and then as camp goes on,
guys get beat up and then they're starting to.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Play through some stuff.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
It's part of the training camp that you can't You
can run every sprint you want, you can do every
dynamic warm up you want, agility drill you want. The
thing you can't do is push on a three hundred
and thirty pound guy every down, right, And that's what
you can't train for.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So this is getting into football shape as well. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well, Coop, you say like three seventeen whatever a guard,
that's kind of standard operating procedure. Linebackers are smaller than
they used to be in faster stuff like that. So
I mean things are gonna morph and and things are
going to evolve. Garrett Bradberry, you know he started five
years at center playing around three h five three ten.
What What are some things with his game you consistently
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like with Garrett?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
First, I like the way the guy sees football. He's
a smart player.
Speaker 13 (36:39):
I like the way he anticipates things, and you know
those those three things, being smart, having athleticism, anticipation, meaning
he's got full digestion out of the offense. It allows
him to do some things when you you know, when
you say he's maybe undersized for the game now at
three oh five, it allows him to do things and
operate in a way that he's anticipating stuff, so he's
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on youa faster than then you know he's going to
be on you. There's some some things that we can
do with him that he's capable of doing them. Maybe
another center in the NFL is not not capable of
doing so you'd have to change him stuff up.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Right, And and not every center, not every interior offensive lineman,
correct me if I'm wrong, fits every offense right, No,
for sure, h I mean if you if you're running
wide and running a lot of zone stuff and getting
players in space as opposed to power running vertical passing
game that those would like when you played to Denver
and and you know you you had a Pro Bowl
year and then you got hurt or during the course
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of that year, I believe that's what it was like,
Like what size did you play at, and like what
was important to you, say, ten to eleven twelve years ago
compared to.
Speaker 13 (37:41):
Now, Yeah, well, so I came in too similarly to
how the guys.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That I the group that I took over.
Speaker 13 (37:48):
Kind of a West Coast Shanahan type offense, you know,
with Kubiak and those guys.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
So that's that's the system.
Speaker 13 (37:54):
I was drafted, and I was hovering around three two
ninety five to three hundred pounds.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
And and you know I was one of the bigger
guys at that point on our on our old line
talk talking about a fifteen fifteen deep O line, there
might have been one other guy over three hundred.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's changed.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
Most of these guys are coming out minimum three hundred
and it's three hundred plus. As my career wore on,
I mean, I had to fit into other systems. So
you know, we hired Josh McDaniels after coach Shanahan got
fired and he wanted to change the run game. He
wanted me to weigh three hundred and twelve pounds. It
was really difficult for me to keep that up and
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you got to eat. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Never I promise you. I was never at three twelve.
Speaker 13 (38:37):
I was always around three h five, three ten, just
to where I didn't get fined because my body didn't
recover the same way. So you have to be smart
about how you set these players weights. What can they handle?
Are they gonna be able to handle seventeen games like this?
What's the recovery for them after? Especially playing on turf.
We play a lot of games on turf.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Darra Saw often as compared to forty nine ers left
tackle Trent Brown, who's going to be a Hall of
Fame Do you see it?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Trent Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Trent Williams like tup allright three to two. Daris often
is compared to forty nine ers left tackle Trent Williams,
who will be h o a f so like facets
of Trent's game, And and and Darras Saw at the
stage of his career.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
What do you see it? Uh?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
Yeah, I see some some likeness to their game. I
think both of them have unique.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Power for a left tackle.
Speaker 13 (39:22):
A lot of times in my experience in the past
has been you have more athletic people want to call
him a finesse guy out there, but those two guys
are different. So they bring a different a different element
to their game and to being able to use that
is you know, they both can move like really well too.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So those are those are what people see.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
This game is different for sure, but they have a
lot of the same traits. And anytime you're comparing a
guy to Trent Williams, you're kind of you're going on
the right path if that's the player you're talking about. Right,
So we got some we got some things to grow
to get there. Right, Trent's daniel forty years old. He's
been doing this a long time, you know. I think
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that's that's the goal for a lot of these guys
that want to play as long as as long as
that and to be able to qut what Trent's put
out there for as long as he has that's a
special player.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Now, Now when pads go on, so Monday, yesterday and
and you know, for the X amount you get during
training camp, then you go to Cleveland take on Stefanski's
bunch with Miles Garrett, Zadaria Smith and Dalvin Tomlinson is
so on, very physical group that's gonna be a lot
of fun. But the eye openers for for the youngsters.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So so with with Walter Rouse drafted offensive lineman, started
a bunch of games at Stanford, left tackle.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
At ou right Oklahoma, yah.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, and and and you know, it's what I heard
about him from from either people here or outside who
I respect is is he's a people mover and he
doesn't get knocked back much. That's great. Well, now pads
go on against veterans, some of them, you know, thinking
they're on their last veteran minimum deal and they're mad.
How exciting is that?
Speaker 13 (41:03):
No, that's that's that's where I get to see what
I really have in that room. I have a really
good idea about eight to nine players. Those are the
guys that I've had in the past, Yes, sir, the
guys that I'm not so sure about. The new guys
have come into the room, all right, So that's and
that's going to be the moment for them where it's
all right, this is a little bit different than Oklahoma.
This is different than Wake for us or whatever college
they went to. So yeah, that's what I'm waiting to see.
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That's why I need to see how the young players.
That's why we'll see how that first group two.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Is training camp, your your offensive line versus Flora's defense.
Then the joints two against Cleveland? How much more do
those matter the evaluation than the preseason games or do
they not?
Speaker 13 (41:43):
No, they do, just the way that we handle the
preseason games. We you know, we're right now, as you said,
it's the vikings for the vikings, So that's what we're
looking at.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
That's how we're evaluating.
Speaker 13 (41:54):
The other thing you get when you play a different
team is this is going to be a different front
structure in Cleveland, is gonna to be a different technique
out of the front. And then there's gonna be different players,
you know, some that are some not. But what it
does give you is a chance to evaluate against the
different defense, you know, because we're gonna see a litany
of different fronts throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So give us a look at a four down front.
Speaker 13 (42:16):
Where we've been playing against Slow's defense was typically five
on the line or three four personnel.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So it's really good to get it out there because
it feels like.
Speaker 13 (42:25):
A game when you're out in those those joint practices.
There's a little bit more anxiety going into practice.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
And Chris go, I mean last year, you know, obviously
everybody was figuring things out. Brian was new here, the
seven across the line, I mean, just a lot of
new things. Well now him and the staff to a
certain extent, a lot of the players a couple of
years together, and the routine of it, and you know,
the cohesiveness of it obviously is what leads to high
end productivity. And my point being here generally speaking, not
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necessarily your moving company, but just an offensive line against
a Flores defense. What what where does he put stress?
For an offensive lineman you don't see consistently.
Speaker 13 (43:04):
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of stress between the years,
meaning because the pre snap picture is not gonna look
like the post snap. There's gonna be people moving in
and out. There's gonna be movement in the front. So
if you're game planning against the floor as defense, which
you know technically we are, we're playing against them every day,
there there's some there's gonna be some things that are
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gonna stress you out mentally. There's gonna be something because
the way that we installed this, in the way that
it looked like on the field, well that's because they
brought the strong safety or they had everybody up in
the line of scrimmage. And so what it does give
us is once we hit the season is we've seen
every look under the sun. Right, there's we're gonna have
a lot of time on task either run blocking, past blocking,
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these different front structures, these different all out blitzes, or
you know, dropping eight. So what it does give us
is some things that we won't we typically wouldn't be
able to work on until we had to play a
floor as defense in season. Well, now we've seen me
dang near everything you can see throughout the throughout the league,
and we've got reps on him.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah, last one here a rookie offensive lineman Michael Jerkins. Dude,
do do do you think that there's a better than
fair chance he will be a starting center in the
National Football League one day?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah? I mean that's that's why we we drafted him.
Speaker 13 (44:20):
Uh just like today, like this is going to be
a big evaluation process because we can do all the
work from college and say, man, if he does this
in the NFL, we got we got a player here.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Wow. Right. What Michael has done since he's.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
Got here is absorbed, digest and and really really became
immersed in the offense, asking the right questions.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
So he's hitting all the marks on that.
Speaker 13 (44:45):
So now we got to see how we perform when
the lights are on, when the pads are on and
you know it's fifty to seventy five snaps.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, can you do it for a whole game?
Speaker 4 (44:56):
And I don't follow college football closely during the season.
I just don't have time. But but I know a
lot of people at this stage of my career who
do follow it very closely, and I trust him. And
when I asked about Jerkins, the first thing the guy
said was tough play throw injuries. Like I'm not saying
it was a questionable, a doubtful. I don't play that well.
The college doesn't even play that game. But the guy
said he plays through injuries, which you know, man, not
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everybody does that.
Speaker 13 (45:21):
No, that's that's what we're hunting here is tough, tough
guys in our room.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
You know what.
Speaker 13 (45:27):
We have a meeting every year, you know, sometimes twice
a year on the standard of doing business in our room.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
And that's part of it, is the toughness.
Speaker 13 (45:35):
Also being accountable to the guy next to you, because
if you can't count on you being in there, his
job's affected. So uh, as long as we keep adding
players like that into our room, we're gonna we're gonna
have a great room for.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Years to come.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And last one, I promise. So your new assistant, I
want to I want to hear about him. It's Sean Surrett, right, yes, yes, Surret.
Sean Surrett, who's with the Chargers of the last three seasons,
new assistant for Chris. He's the right hand man for
the moving company. His nickname is an offensive lineman at
Kent State was sweet Feet. What what tell us? So
Wikipedia was right? What are some keys to fulfilling the
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role as your assistant offensive line coach?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
For me? All right? A couple of things is.
Speaker 13 (46:21):
Might be able to trust the guy which I knew
right away and I got some background experience, might be
able to trust them, you know with what we're teaching,
be able to handle you know, a group of guys
when we do split work. The thing that I got
in Sean is I got an O line coach. I'm
talking about a head O line coach. He's done this before,
he's done this in the past on his own Steelers, right, Yes,
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So I get I get another set of eyes. That's
kind of my checks and balances, like, hey, am I
Am I doing this the right way?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Like?
Speaker 13 (46:49):
Should I say this in a different way? Should I
be teaching this guy another thing? And so when you
have somebody that you trust and you trust what they
see and also there's no you know, there's there's not
going to be any you know, sensitivity when we're going
back and forth on what we want to do, what's
the right thing to do. As long as you have
that in which I do in a guy like Sean,
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I feel confident with him, you know, running any meeting,
you know, as we get to know each other, as
we he digests the offense because he's learning the offense too.
But he's he's done a great job with these rookies,
running the rookie meetings at night and keeping them on task.
And we've seen the fruits of his labor out here
early in camp. These guys are understanding the concepts and
being able to operate out there, meaning they're gonna get
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on the field a little bit faster than they typically
would when we got first and the second group.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
In the majority of the reps.
Speaker 13 (47:37):
Now I can sprinkle in a guy here and there
because he understands it. Because because Shawn's been doing extra
outside of that room for us.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
The coop, the coop, the coop is on fire. Chris Cooper,
offensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings over to Ben Gestlin,
who covers the team for the strip. He's the scribe
and that's next.
Man, take care, Polly Wallace, and there is.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Your stopping dropping, stopping.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Sorry k fair.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Well, hoop action, hell, yes, hey, how you doing nine
to noon?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Nine to noon time for two more.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
You are one of the biggest suck ups I know.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And winter he's coming.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Thank you, Minnyeaflace, and thank each and every one of
you for listening to FM one hundred point three k
fa n from these six by one carpets plus studios.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hello, it is a talker Tuesday. I'm Paul Allen and
nor to produces. When's the last time you didn't eat
a bite of food for twenty four hours? Because that's
my lot in life right now. And akin to somebody
like marking down the days until they get out of
a certain situation, I'm marking down hours until I can
(01:55):
get into a cheeseburger or some type of a big
olf that breakfast type food and good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7 (02:03):
I add some humble beginnings, we'll say down in North
fan Cato, I have not skipped a whole lot of
meals since PA.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Twenty three hours Nordo.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
I don't think i've ever I can't remember since childhood
the last time that I went twenty four hours with
some sort of.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Food substance, twenty two hours, fifty eight minutes and thirty seconds,
twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty seven, twenty six though, but
you can almost see the other side. It is. It
is indeed the countdown. Somebody's twenty four hours from seeing
the other side.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah, you know, I don't know if it's if it's
fit for YouTube per se, but at some point you're
gonna get You're gonna get up in there and the
GoPro is gonna tell the story and everything's gonna be
cleaned out, and everything's gonna be great again. You're gonna
walk in hot step in Thursday morning.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Make that cavity great again. Head in clouds right loving.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
I mean it, You'll feel twenty years younger about twenty
four hours from.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now copyright Chevy Jays from Bletch, I probably will sing
Moon River for the first time in my life because
I'm getting a Colonosco by tomorrow, and for those of
you who have had it, this will be my third.
Today is colonasca by prep day, which means we will
be vigilant with it. This is Colonasco by number three
and the first one and the first one since pre pandemic,
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and the the procedure for those of you who have
prepped for it is, I mean, you've got, you got
liquid diet, you got these pills, you got this Mirra relax.
I mean, you've got you just got a lot of
things that are that are going to lead to some
functioning uncomfortability. That is my lot in life this day.
(03:52):
So here's a question. Has anybody consistently cheated at Colonaska
by prep and gotten away with it? Like mac and cheese,
maybe a certain type of cereal, maybe rice crispies. You know,
think about this, rice crispies with lime gatorade. I mean,
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how good does that sound?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Well, it's just like when I get my kids going
into the dentists.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Hey, get out of there, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
You try to put the fear of social shame in
them a little bit, like Hey, Stella, look, you can
tell me all day that you're flossing Macca, but the
dentist is going to know.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Make my crevis great again.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
The dentist is going to know, Stella, So get it
together and start flossing. Go back in there, be honest
with yourself and floss.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Similarly lots. The colon ain't gonna lie, do you flas? Yes,
got floss three times in my life. I floss because
I got.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I got a.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Couple of gaps that I guess. Now we're going, we're
going hardcore gross on a Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well, when the sun goes down, what happens to your gang?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, it gets bigger. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Anytime, anytime I eat, whether it's beef or pork or
anything like that, I got to get that out of there.
But yeah, when you roll in there, the doctor and
they look you in the eyes and they say you
followed the protocols and all that, and you say, yes,
of course, doctor, this is a very serious thing, of course.
And they take a peek in there and they see
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Mexican jello and some Kraft mac and cheese.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Now you stop that. They're gonna know that you're a fraud. Right,
So the colon doesn't lie. I think you got to
stick it out and you got to come back next week. Yeah,
sure I do. I ain't coming back next week. You're
going to be an octave higher. Hey maam, get out
of there. The anesthesia hasn't said and yet Welcome back
to the show. All right, So if you're a person
of prayer, pray that everything goes okay for your buddy
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Paul Allen. And here we are. What's cooking today? Nine
to noon, first day of pads for your Minnesota Vikings.
Yesterday it was nondescript, which is good news because it
means no ACL's exploded and no starters left with injuries.
One on ones are today, I think a test of manlihood.
Those who lack confidence, well they're going to get bludgeoned
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about the biggest decision I have to make today is
after taking the first two Coles Doula colex do Collax
pills after nine to noon, do I head to Minnesota
Vikings practice and memorize numbers and body types for the
life change or August tenth not really knowing, you know,
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like bodily, what's going to be happening when I'm a
Viking's training camp or if I don't go, then I
can go tomorrow. It here's what's interesting. Welcome back to
the show. The Colonoscobi's at eight thirty in the morning.
Yeah tomorrow. And so when I apprized management, or when
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I informed management that that was the time Abbott said, good,
you can get back in time for vikes bites. I
always love that. Oh, in all serious is.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Are you willing to call in after the procedure and
give us a full breakdown of how everything went?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I bet you we can coerce the into endoscopy or
the person who does it to probably call in during
said scenario and provide you with some old play by play.
But here's your biggest decision. If it takes place a
day forty, that's before the show. It is so we
can pre record. We're flexible. You have to determine. You
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have to determine if it's going to be self contained
or if while she is digging, you're just throwing to something.
I always love that one big determination there, throw in.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
And out of it, you know, Abbott, it's gonna need
an open, it's gonna need a close right well and
literally and figuratively in this particular case.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well it's it's I mean colon Askaby's at eight thirty.
You can get back in time for bikes bites. Yeah,
but the anesthesia will not have worn off. Okay, bet
I always love that one. That's my lot in life,
So one on ones I think her today. They weren't yesterday,
but I think there today. You know, darisaw versus Turner,
Grenard charging O'Neil. Maybe some maybe some goal line drills
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where they slam into each other down by the old
goal stripe, and those of the woke variety head to
Twitter to complain about the contact the hope that the
National Football League is shut down average common antennabe. Now,
we'll be out at Minnesota Vikings training camp today, t
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CEO PC. Yeah, you know them, and they'll be there
from noon until three for the walkthrough. In the first
thirty minutes of practice yesterday. Yesterday, Darnold Fine, McCarthy, Vine
p JJ, Tonion Fine, Defense Fine, Ben Gosling, Ben Gaesling
covers all of it for the Star Tribunies in studio
at ten Young, Alec joins Thursday. I did a podcast
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with Alec Lewis yesterday. You can learn more about that
at Alec Underscore Lewis via the tweet machine if you
would like to listen back to his giggles and incessant
blurting of we're back, We're back, everybody's back, We're back.
We're hopping and skipping out there. Training camp even though
it's hot because we're back. Ya joins the mix on Thursday,
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and we're thankful for those two gifted young men because
they sweat out every single practice and it was hot yesterday.
We welcome to welcome to you. You're welcome to offer
up Vikings related questions if you are so inclined at
the tech spot that's six four six eight six. We
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can sprinkle them in during the course of the presentation
and gives me a man nordo something to do, and
we'll we'll do our very best to oblige. And I
set up before and I'll say it again, this is
a by faith approach to a Minnesota Viking season until
we get to met life and start playing some games fucks,
(09:59):
you know, like by faith with Darnald a quarterback, he'll
fit wonderfully because his skill guys are sweet and high
end and the system is strong. By faith, those who
operated Brian Flores defense last year will be even more
secure in the demands this year, and the newbies won't
take like two months to figure it out. By faith,
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this ridiculous kickoff role is fun, and we figure out
what the potential twelfth man in the game means and
that there's a third out of bounds line known as
the twenty yard line when straddled. I always love that one.
I mean, seriously at twelve, seriously, well, we.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Can't figure out the straddle here for clocks and timing
nine to do. How are we going to figure out
the straddle in an NFL kickoff?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Right? The punter of the plus sized punter, by the way,
he's in a legit battle with Seth Vernon, who was
a receiver in college and runs like the wind. My
man runs like the wind. So do you want to
punt who can pass or a punter who can run?
I don't really care about either of those equations. I
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just want a punter that finds the Coleman corner and
pins somebody in the inside the ten each and every
time hardcore football ken Kane wan Wi play tailback. Is
that a trick they are going to attempt to expose again?
Or is he kept for the video game kickoff play?
Even if returners never may touch the ball and or
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have to deal with bouncing lining drives. Maybe the answer
is finding football players who were accomplished shortstops at one
stage of their lives so they can field, the worm
Burners scoop it up and head to the end zone
with alacrity and a plumb rock. Faber received a sweet deal.
He joins nine to noon about eleven forty five, Softy
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from Seattle is our friends on foes guest today at eleven.
He will be bombastic as ever, and we will get
out of the way and just let him blow hard.
All right, three to two, We'll get out of the
way and just let him talk. I will wonder if
his super Chickens are going to run last in the
NFC West, and he'll smash me with the Vikings have
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a better chance at finishing last than my Seahawks. Okay,
somebody undoubtedly will ask O'Connell at a press conference if
he's going to force McCarthy into games even if he's
not ready to play, because Kevin and Quasier in their
third year of four year packs, and you know, the
insinuation is one wouldn't do what's best for the team
because they're worried about themselves and instead would sabotage the
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plan to potentially secure a longer ten you're here. People
actually think like that, which is super special. Oh, with
the kickoff clip, some teams are being admonished. There was
admonishing around the National Football League yesterday and over the weekend.
Why because they're not putting the ball on the tee
the correct way. I mean, this whole thing is just
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so stupid and super duper special landing zones and straddling
the twenty and I mean, let's see if a twelve
man is permitted on the field on kickoffs and kick
returns and stuff. I mean, what the heck are they
going to do in Seattle? Are they going to change
their name to the thirteens? I always love that one.
I mean, seriously, the kickoff clip and people trying to
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put the ball on the tee in oblong fashion like
kicking like kick knuckleballs. The NFL's just are really squared
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Boom.
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You'll be hearing that sound in the doctor's office tomorrow
around at eight thirty am. And I'm gonna wear that
thing out tomorrow. I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, I shouldn't. I shouldn't have mentioned that on the
radio today. And perchance Cotton John, my next door neighbor,
one of my best friends, is listening because tonight undoubtedly
will be the night for the first time in two years.
He whips out the grill. He whips out the grill
all the time. He's very good. He's like you. He's
an accomplished a barbecue specialist. But you'll probably make like
(14:57):
ten juicy losies. Oh, and they'll just be per made
and like a little seared on the outside, and they'll come, Hey,
you know what, even though I haven't offered this up
in two years, I'd like to bring five over to
your house, knowing that I would eat three on a
day I can't eat diseased.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
And let's start with some audio from Jonathan Grenard. Here
he is yesterday talking about Brian Flores and the defense.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
I think in general, you just want to say about
being aggressive, uh, you know, just just stab some new
line of scrimmags, create negative place so that, like I said,
we can doubt it that when he wants to. You know,
we don't do that handle our job by stopping Rono
for a second down, then we can't get the things
we want to see.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So it just stabs.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
The new ident needs to the defense and being more aggressive,
playing on their side of the balls what we all
trying to do.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
So that was Jonathan Gernard talking about the defense. Now,
Jonathan Garnard, you mentioned getting the pads on PA and
uh and what that looks like now in terms of
finally getting to see these guys hitting each other a bit.
But you mentioned the uh, the the idea that one
on ones are going to be taking place today. So
I saw this on a con on a on a
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on a potot. It was Jonathan Garnard and I think
he was joining Chris Long. And here he is talking
specifically about Dallas Turner and after the Vikings draft Dallas Turner.
Grenard's here new member of the Minnesota Vikings. Some people
were talking about his time in Houston and kind of
the the mentoring of Will Anderson, fellow former Alabama Crimson
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Tide defensive stud ghost top five and making plays his
rookie season for the Texans.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So here he is talking.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
It's about ninety seconds him talking with with Chris Long
about what he looks for in Dallas Turner.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
Turner, really high hiped guy, longstrider, different kind of guy.
What do you see from him as far as his
developments concerned, and what are the kind of moves he's
gotten his toolbox that kind of wi you early, sure, Yeah,
we kind.
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Of built similar here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
I got long legs, long glimbs, these same things, short
torsos I built.
Speaker 11 (16:52):
But my main thing is the same thing with him.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You run a four fourth, you need to get up
on them fast like you try to get here, and
that's why you know. You see all these different workout
videos where guys do these passhorts and stuff like it's
cool to work these moves, but I say, you work these,
but you have to work while still gaining ground, and
everything's gonna be set up off of this power.
Speaker 11 (17:10):
You know, you got these insanely long arms.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
If your first move is not a long arm or
some type of power to make them respect your.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Length and then give you the hands, then you're just
gonna be sitting there trying to work on moves. And
as we know, tackles on their hands they send their
waiting on. You can throw your moves now so they
can just sit there and grab.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
So I said, look, use that to your advantage if
they want to be that outside had punching God went
through their chests and then you get what you want.
Everything is not going to come mark this and there
to look for a pretty sack. I don't win pretty.
Everybody knows I don't win clean pretty rushes.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I don't like them.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I mean I feel like that gives them more chances
to come back and recover.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Might not.
Speaker 11 (17:41):
I want you to be able.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
That's why you mentioned short in my ads so if
I'm going to shut it up, if I don't care
a sack as a sack, ball is out, balls out.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
I just need to be within arms reach so I
can tit the ball out.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
I had a couple of times where I talk to
them listen tinge of mindset of just going forward wrapping
the quarterback up to Hey, all you gotta do is
get the ball off. So whatever that radius is between
your length, so you're setting up a stablished shorten it is.
You don't have to necessarily just win a perfect clean
rest Quebec standing right there while you still got a
down your arm knocked the ball up.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Simple stuff like bet so well that explanation. Can you
repeat the part of this stuff where you said all
about things Jonathan Grenard is an elite football mind. Yeah
he is.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
And that's what you're talking about the one on ones today,
Pa seeing that speed right the Dallas turner. Okay, so
we've talked about in whether it was last week with
Alec Lewis and studio you say Quasy's playing fast right now,
and that that amounted to a half hour long conversation
about the tail of two quasis. The financial stability that
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has been brought teams trying to get younger, so we
can check some boxes there, but still, ultimately these draft
picks got to come through.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I look at it.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
In that vein PA, would you would you agree or disagree?
Am I over generalizing it or being too harsh with
the fact that if Dallas Turner is health, if we're
talking about hitting on draft picks, Dallas Turner might must
show all of that speed that Grenard was talking about, all.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Of that skill and those moves.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Dallas Turner, if healthy, for the sake of winning on
draft picks, absolutely must be a defensive Rookie of the
Year candidate.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, I'm not the biggest absolute guy in the world.
So the for Dallas, he's favored to win Defensive Rookie
of the Year. He's going to play a lot. His
bookender is quite accomplished. The unpredictability of where he's going
to play in certain situations. I think specifically early in
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the season will aid Dallas Turner. But it's you know,
the fan has learned there will be a twenty twenty
five National Football League season, so therefore, well, however, Dallas
cuts his metaphorical teeth this year. Hopefully it's really good
and hopefully it continues to get better, because I mean,
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quite honestly, while while some will focus on the defensive
Rookie of the Year award, Dallas has his site set
on h o F and couldn't find the CSI Miami
thing fast enough for the Dallas h o F. What
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was his name, Horatio care Ratio.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sunglasses on a quick turn in the exit.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The bomb.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
No, absolutely, the blonde forensic scientist Kelli Ducaine the bomb. No,
they were the bomb. That's I'm not kidding you from
And I think I've told you this before, I've said
it on the radio. Maybe I haven't. But laying around
with my daughter Nicole and watching CSI Miami, Yeah, criminal
Minds and shows like that, I mean we watched a
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lot of them. Well, she's she's getting into forensic science
as a psychology and criminology double major at the University
of Colorado. So she wants to do forensic science. She
wants to be Cali Ducane, she wants to analyze the
minds of criminals. And in fact, she has an internship
ship slash a job right now at a behavioral science
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spot right outside of Boulder, that's very interesting some of
the stories she tells me. So the best laid plans, Well,
you have no idea where they're going to go.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Wow, fights, fights, vikes, Fitz thank you Thousand Hills, Duke Shelley.
He says this defense is completely different than what he
experienced in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Dondal totally different defense.
Speaker 12 (21:40):
Floria is very creative, like I said, a lot of
a lot of different things. He wanted to do, a
lot of different looks he want to bring. So it's
very just a creative defense as I can say, Like
I haven't been a part of the defense like this
creative and this opportunity to makes him any plays, So
I think it's gonna be good for my skill set
for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
More from Duke working in camp, he's trying to accomplish
just making plays.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
Man, whenever your number get called on, just go out
there and make plays. That's biggest thing. So right now
with me, I'm just trying to just learn to defense.
So when I go out there, I'm not really thinking,
I'm just going out there playing.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So that's a big state with me right now.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
So whether it's the Duke, the Duke, the Duke is
on fire. Number twenty nine is out there running around.
Number one is in shack. Griffin will be running around again,
but I don't believe he was participating in earnest yesterday.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Enter the equation Bobby Kane.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Here he is on getting the call and what he
experienced earlier in his career with Brian Flora's defense.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
You know, I got the call coming Friday, me and
floating in contact a little bit, but you know I
got the call and I was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I was.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm grateful the opportunity, you know, is a place style
was very aggressive.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You want to bring the energy.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
You gotta be good tacklers, blitzers gotta be a good
blitzer and good and open space and you know I'd
like to hang my hat on all those well.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
End of opportunity, PA and watching the video yesterday from
practice and you see Jalen Naylor running by the entire
secondary route to a long touchdown. Am I just excited
about speedy or should I? In some ways keeping perspective
the land of opportunity with this defensive back group.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Love the question with a nailer And because he's bigger, Jalen,
you know he's growing and maturing as a young man physically, mentally,
and with everything in between. But he's bigger, he's stronger,
and you could see that a training camp with the
way he gets off the line of scrimmage. It wasn't
anything noteworthy to me yesterday with the parts that I watched.
(23:31):
But Jalen might be the fastest guy on the team
now that Dan Chasenna's a gunner elsewhere, Jalen Nailer is
incredibly fast at forty sixty, one hundred yards and so on.
So now coming through with an opportunity that will be
presented to him. That's why, Like when you hear Chris Cooper,
the offensive line coach fifteen minutes from now or whatever,
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you know, you'll hear him talk about offensive linemen going
into pads for the first time, and it really is.
It's analogous to the rest of the team. This is
where that rubber meets the road, where you know you've
looked really good with ABCD.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
E, F and G.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
What about the rest of the alphabet, ma'am, Because that's
where it starts to get physical, and those who lack
confidence in executing their toil will get beat.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Let me pause here. It's Vikes Bites presented by Thousand Hills.
When we come back, I have some more questions based
on the first day of pads PA and a couple
of things that stood out or maybe in these particular
person's case, did not stand out at camp. And as
you mentioned, we're going to get to hear from Chris Cooper.
You tracked him down yesterday, the old line coach at
training camp.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
This is nine to noon. It's nine to twenty nine.
Our friends on foes today. I think we're down to
three teams. We handled the Super Chickens ninety minutes from now.
That would be the Seattle Seahawks. For those new to
the listening, Covenant and Dave Softy mallor Softy from KJR
and Seattle joins at eleven. Don't miss that. You'll dig
it a with the the two pop tarts that I
(25:08):
ate at eight. At eight twenty nine this morning honestly
feel like the last pieces of food I'm ever going
to eat my life. And and Johnny the Mouse Michelson,
captain of the eighty three wis at a club hockey team,
the most formidable a club hockey team in the history
of the state of hockey and mouse warre the ceau.
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He he just sent me a message regarding the procedure tomorrow.
You hope your doctor is an ex punter who knows
how to find the colon corner. I always love that one. Oh,
my man's brilliant. What job?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
What were the learned minds? What were the learned Oh?
What what were the learned minds saying about the day
one of pads on practice. When you look at at Twitter,
I say social media, But for me all it is
is Twitter. That's my only social media vibe. So when
(26:05):
when crafting, what are the learned football minds saying about
day one of Pad's practice? It behooves us to begin
with ya young Alec Alec Lewis And at Alec underscore
Lewis is where you can find him via Twitter, and
he writes pretty nice ball from JJ McCarthy fitting it
(26:30):
into a window on a Nick muse Crosser got a
high five from Koz afterward. The tweets perfect. The tweets perfect. Okay,
I was going to say, you know, but then the
the emotional wherewithal comes in it Hi fuzz for everybody,
says Kevin O'Connell. The tweets perfect, the tweets brilliant. He
(26:51):
also tweeted at ALEC Underscore Lewis Lewis scene was out
on a practice field today, but again not in uniform.
Malik Knowles in workout clothes too. Shack Griffin was out
there watching too and walking very well. Meanwhile, TJ. Hawkinson
was doing some pretty aggressive sprints. He looks great. I
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didn't know young Alec was an expert on gate, like
how somebody walks and whether they're walking very well. I mean,
hitching the gide up is one thing, but that's just
good to know about a weekly guest nine to noon.
He's an expert of everything that involves gate. And finally
at ALEC Underscore, Lewis learning football minds watching pads on practice.
(27:38):
Viking's second year dB jay Ward was mixing in at
corner today. Has played mostly safety since getting here, so
definitely interesting given position depth. What are we thinking about
Old Jay Ward, the Swiss Army Knife in his second
year from Louisiana State University, mixing in a corner of
(28:01):
the con It.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Is the land of opportunity and Jay Ward a year ago,
this time pondering kind of the idea of why guys
were selected to accomplish certain roles, to fill certain roles,
they should say and what they can what they can offer.
And so we dug in a year ago to the
kind of the is there something underrated here? Is there
(28:23):
something and then mixing and matching it with Brian Flores,
where Brian Flores is new to the mix, you assume
that that something had had become the had caught a
glimmer in mister Flores's eye as to why Jay Williams
was in the mix. Now, with that said, the fact
that we didn't see him doing anything except for special teams,
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we can joke now a year later that basically the
only time he popped was when there was a false
start on some sort of kick, and all of that included.
But the land of opportunity is so, is so flushing
and flourishing right now, given injuries and given the lack
of availability, and given a situation and in a position
(29:05):
that that has had a dearth of talent now for
a couple of years. So whether the duke is on fire,
whether we have we have Jay Ward, excuse me now,
Jay Williams doing safety sled and doing work at corner.
Find anybody that freaking works right now, mister Flores, and
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
That's cool now.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
The one thing that I was seeing what people are
saying about the first day of pads. They were kind
of wondering, what's up with a guy who wasn't wearing pads.
Yesterday Pa Lewis seen was seen out of pads, and
that's been He's kind of been on the sidelines the
last few days in a row. PA Saucy and I
were there on Saturday and watching walk He wasn't even
(29:46):
participating in the walkthrough. He was standing under the upright
while the backups in the reserves were doing their thing.
And yesterday, first day of pads, you had some guys
with with some nicks and some injuries and all of that,
and then he just had Lewis see hanging out. A
guy who's maybe his NFL life, or at least his
time on the Vikings roster is really up much for
(30:06):
debate at this moment of.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Camp when it comes to contractually or his lot in
life in the National Football League. Young Lewis is hoping
that time for two more He's looking for two more years.
Cornerback Duke Shelley. This is from at Vikings Nation MN.
At Vikings Nation, MM cornerback Duke Shelley, the Duke, the Duke.
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We know the Duke is on Yeah, cornerback Duke Shelley
of your favorite football team, the Minnesota Vikings. He was
out there running around. He wasn't on the sideline. He
wasn't wondering what his lot in life was. At Vikings Nation,
MN cornerback Duke Shelley thinks the hashtag Vikings have the
best fan base in the NFL. Wait, I think of
(30:54):
that best fan base in the NFL, says the Duke.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Think.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I think we do. I mean it's good. I mean
it's all. Of course, it's beauty in the eye of
what's directly in front of you. We are in the
court fields. I'm eating my mild salsa and my Tater
tot hot dish. And I grew up a Vikings fan.
Here I am. But I would say from a loyalty standpoint,
from a buy in standpoint, now the Duke gets it.
I think the Duke absolutely gets it. And he has
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acclimated himself beautifully.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
He has worn his way.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Into the hearts of Vikings fans in the land of opportunity.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So do your thing, Duke. It's the land of opportunity
with the corn nervebacks. Let's see last one at tpp skull.
I think this is our aggregating friends at Purple Persuasion
at tpp Skull. Hashtag Vikings rookie OLB Dallas Turner has
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had a solid start to camp, but was stone walled
multiple times in practice today by star left tackle Christian Darisov.
Per Will Racketts with Sports Illustrated. Christian Darisa plays on
the Minnesota Vikings offensive line. The boss of the Minnesota
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Moving Company is a man named Chris Cooper, and like
all coaches around the NFL, he got a month and
change to forget about the shields. I'm like Coop, the Coop.
The Coop is on fire doing anything interesting or fun
during that time.
Speaker 13 (32:23):
So I traveled quite a bit nice as far as interesting.
It'd be interesting to people that I traveled to Alaska,
which is my home state. I have a camp back
there every year. O Line D Line Camp. Yes, it's
a free deal. So we get anywhere between seventy and
ninety kids some years, you know, upwards of one hundred
and hundred and ten three day camp. Just do an
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O line D line drills, and then you know, back
in Minnesota for a little bit, my son is it
was playing Triple A baseball, started getting through some of
those tournaments, and then we went back or sorry, my
whole family went to Denver to go visit some family. Yeah,
and then towards the end of the break, my my
my little brother got married in.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Seattle's out there for that. What about Bismarck, We did
not make it out there as.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Shoot me not not Bismarck Grand Forks. About Grand Forks,
you go up there and you know, like.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
I did not actually did a bad alumni golf tournament
here at Legends in Prior Lake. So I saw some
guys from uh swinging dback.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, I was at that. That was cool too. Once again,
Chris Cooper, third year coach of the Minnesota Moving Companies,
the offensive line coach. And you know we we we've
called the Vikings offensive line the Minnesota Moving Company for
two decades plus and the moving man part with guys
current current roster three seventeen and less. Is it is
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it a speed meet size equation for you, you know,
with part of the group you have.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For offensive lineman, you're talking about Yeah, they're actual Wait.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, or three is three seventeen? Three seventeen for a
guard in this day and age of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Is that good? That's kind of it's kind of standard now, right. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
So more so for me, whether or not you can
move with that weight is what matters. So that the
number on the scale could say three twenty five, but
if you move as well as the guy behind you
next to you, that's three ten. I don't have a
problem with that. Because mass you can't teach it right.
There's things you can teach technique wise, concept wise, but size, length,
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athletic ability stuff you can't teach.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
So you try to bottle it up right.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
And and with pads going on yesterday, this is airing Tuesday,
when when when the pads go on with teams of
training camp around the National Football League. You know, I
don't want to overstate it, but it's a cool day.
It's a big time. It's where the rubber meets the road.
It's where you know, the first and second rounders. Over
the course of time, we're a fast and have all
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the measurables. Then they get hit and then you never
hear from them again. You know, it's so so like
what excites you about this time of the year as
an offensive line comes.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Well, specifically for our position O line D line, you know,
I'm sure you know the in tier five to the
front seven of the defense feels the same way. Is
that I get a good idea of how a guy
moves in shorts with no pads on. But because we're
limited on the amount of times we can actually wear pads.
I mean, I think it's ten in training camp and
Josh McCowan and I were joking when we were playing
you might have got to your tenth padded practice after
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seven days.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, and that was the first of two a days,
right maybe right?
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Yeah, So so yeah, these these practices are important, one
for evaluation and two to get the guys in shape
some kind some coaches like say callous. There is some
kind of callous being being understood that you can work
through this soreness? Is it pain? Is it soreness? Is
it an injury? Is it something that you're gonna be
out for? But the point is you got to find
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a way to fight through this stuff. If it's if
you're just hurt, it's not an injury. Right, We're gonna
have to play through this throughout the season. So this
is kind of the time of year where you get
a little taste of it and then as camp goes on,
guys get beat up and then they're starting to.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Play through some stuff.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
It's part of the training camp that you can't You
can run every sprint you want, you can do every
dynamic warm up you want, agility drill you want. The
thing you can't do is push on a three hundred
and thirty pound guy every down, right, And that's what
you can't train for.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So this is getting into football shape as well. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well, Coop, you say like three seventeen whatever a guard,
that's kind of standard operating procedure. Linebackers are smaller than
they used to be in faster stuff like that. So
I mean things are gonna morph and and things are
going to evolve. Garrett Bradberry, you know he started five
years at center playing around three h five three ten.
What What are some things with his game you consistently
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like with Garrett?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
First, I like the way the guy sees football. He's
a smart player.
Speaker 13 (36:39):
I like the way he anticipates things, and you know
those those three things, being smart, having athleticism, anticipation, meaning
he's got full digestion out of the offense. It allows
him to do some things when you you know, when
you say he's maybe undersized for the game now at
three oh five, it allows him to do things and
operate in a way that he's anticipating stuff, so he's
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on youa faster than then you know he's going to
be on you. There's some some things that we can
do with him that he's capable of doing them. Maybe
another center in the NFL is not not capable of
doing so you'd have to change him stuff up.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Right, And and not every center, not every interior offensive lineman,
correct me if I'm wrong, fits every offense right, No,
for sure, h I mean if you if you're running
wide and running a lot of zone stuff and getting
players in space as opposed to power running vertical passing
game that those would like when you played to Denver
and and you know you you had a Pro Bowl
year and then you got hurt or during the course
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of that year, I believe that's what it was like,
Like what size did you play at, and like what
was important to you, say, ten to eleven twelve years ago
compared to.
Speaker 13 (37:41):
Now, Yeah, well, so I came in too similarly to
how the guys.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That I the group that I took over.
Speaker 13 (37:48):
Kind of a West Coast Shanahan type offense, you know,
with Kubiak and those guys.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
So that's that's the system.
Speaker 13 (37:54):
I was drafted, and I was hovering around three two
ninety five to three hundred pounds.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
And and you know I was one of the bigger
guys at that point on our on our old line
talk talking about a fifteen fifteen deep O line, there
might have been one other guy over three hundred.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's changed.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
Most of these guys are coming out minimum three hundred
and it's three hundred plus. As my career wore on,
I mean, I had to fit into other systems. So
you know, we hired Josh McDaniels after coach Shanahan got
fired and he wanted to change the run game. He
wanted me to weigh three hundred and twelve pounds. It
was really difficult for me to keep that up and
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you got to eat. Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Never I promise you. I was never at three twelve.
Speaker 13 (38:37):
I was always around three h five, three ten, just
to where I didn't get fined because my body didn't
recover the same way. So you have to be smart
about how you set these players weights. What can they handle?
Are they gonna be able to handle seventeen games like this?
What's the recovery for them after? Especially playing on turf.
We play a lot of games on turf.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Darra Saw often as compared to forty nine ers left
tackle Trent Brown, who's going to be a Hall of
Fame Do you see it?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Trent Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Trent Williams like tup allright three to two. Daris often
is compared to forty nine ers left tackle Trent Williams,
who will be h o a f so like facets
of Trent's game, And and and Darras Saw at the
stage of his career.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
What do you see it? Uh?
Speaker 13 (39:15):
Yeah, I see some some likeness to their game. I
think both of them have unique.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Power for a left tackle.
Speaker 13 (39:22):
A lot of times in my experience in the past
has been you have more athletic people want to call
him a finesse guy out there, but those two guys
are different. So they bring a different a different element
to their game and to being able to use that
is you know, they both can move like really well too.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So those are those are what people see.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
This game is different for sure, but they have a
lot of the same traits. And anytime you're comparing a
guy to Trent Williams, you're kind of you're going on
the right path if that's the player you're talking about. Right,
So we got some we got some things to grow
to get there. Right, Trent's daniel forty years old. He's
been doing this a long time, you know. I think
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that's that's the goal for a lot of these guys
that want to play as long as as long as
that and to be able to qut what Trent's put
out there for as long as he has that's a
special player.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Now, Now when pads go on, so Monday, yesterday and
and you know, for the X amount you get during
training camp, then you go to Cleveland take on Stefanski's
bunch with Miles Garrett, Zadaria Smith and Dalvin Tomlinson is
so on, very physical group that's gonna be a lot
of fun. But the eye openers for for the youngsters.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So so with with Walter Rouse drafted offensive lineman, started
a bunch of games at Stanford, left tackle.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
At ou right Oklahoma, yah.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, and and and you know, it's what I heard
about him from from either people here or outside who
I respect is is he's a people mover and he
doesn't get knocked back much. That's great. Well, now pads
go on against veterans, some of them, you know, thinking
they're on their last veteran minimum deal and they're mad.
How exciting is that?
Speaker 13 (41:03):
No, that's that's that's where I get to see what
I really have in that room. I have a really
good idea about eight to nine players. Those are the
guys that I've had in the past, Yes, sir, the
guys that I'm not so sure about. The new guys
have come into the room, all right, So that's and
that's going to be the moment for them where it's
all right, this is a little bit different than Oklahoma.
This is different than Wake for us or whatever college
they went to. So yeah, that's what I'm waiting to see.
(41:26):
That's why I need to see how the young players.
That's why we'll see how that first group two.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Is training camp, your your offensive line versus Flora's defense.
Then the joints two against Cleveland? How much more do
those matter the evaluation than the preseason games or do
they not?
Speaker 13 (41:43):
No, they do, just the way that we handle the
preseason games. We you know, we're right now, as you said,
it's the vikings for the vikings, So that's what we're
looking at.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
That's how we're evaluating.
Speaker 13 (41:54):
The other thing you get when you play a different
team is this is going to be a different front
structure in Cleveland, is gonna to be a different technique
out of the front. And then there's gonna be different players,
you know, some that are some not. But what it
does give you is a chance to evaluate against the
different defense, you know, because we're gonna see a litany
of different fronts throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So give us a look at a four down front.
Speaker 13 (42:16):
Where we've been playing against Slow's defense was typically five
on the line or three four personnel.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So it's really good to get it out there because
it feels like.
Speaker 13 (42:25):
A game when you're out in those those joint practices.
There's a little bit more anxiety going into practice.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
And Chris go, I mean last year, you know, obviously
everybody was figuring things out. Brian was new here, the
seven across the line, I mean, just a lot of
new things. Well now him and the staff to a
certain extent, a lot of the players a couple of
years together, and the routine of it, and you know,
the cohesiveness of it obviously is what leads to high
end productivity. And my point being here generally speaking, not
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necessarily your moving company, but just an offensive line against
a Flores defense. What what where does he put stress?
For an offensive lineman you don't see consistently.
Speaker 13 (43:04):
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of stress between the years,
meaning because the pre snap picture is not gonna look
like the post snap. There's gonna be people moving in
and out. There's gonna be movement in the front. So
if you're game planning against the floor as defense, which
you know technically we are, we're playing against them every day,
there there's some there's gonna be some things that are
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gonna stress you out mentally. There's gonna be something because
the way that we installed this, in the way that
it looked like on the field, well that's because they
brought the strong safety or they had everybody up in
the line of scrimmage. And so what it does give
us is once we hit the season is we've seen
every look under the sun. Right, there's we're gonna have
a lot of time on task either run blocking, past blocking,
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these different front structures, these different all out blitzes, or
you know, dropping eight. So what it does give us
is some things that we won't we typically wouldn't be
able to work on until we had to play a
floor as defense in season. Well, now we've seen me
dang near everything you can see throughout the throughout the league,
and we've got reps on him.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah, last one here a rookie offensive lineman Michael Jerkins. Dude,
do do do you think that there's a better than
fair chance he will be a starting center in the
National Football League one day?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah? I mean that's that's why we we drafted him.
Speaker 13 (44:20):
Uh just like today, like this is going to be
a big evaluation process because we can do all the
work from college and say, man, if he does this
in the NFL, we got we got a player here.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Wow. Right. What Michael has done since he's.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
Got here is absorbed, digest and and really really became
immersed in the offense, asking the right questions.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
So he's hitting all the marks on that.
Speaker 13 (44:45):
So now we got to see how we perform when
the lights are on, when the pads are on and
you know it's fifty to seventy five snaps.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, can you do it for a whole game?
Speaker 4 (44:56):
And I don't follow college football closely during the season.
I just don't have time. But but I know a
lot of people at this stage of my career who
do follow it very closely, and I trust him. And
when I asked about Jerkins, the first thing the guy
said was tough play throw injuries. Like I'm not saying
it was a questionable, a doubtful. I don't play that well.
The college doesn't even play that game. But the guy
said he plays through injuries, which you know, man, not
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everybody does that.
Speaker 13 (45:21):
No, that's that's what we're hunting here is tough, tough
guys in our room.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
You know what.
Speaker 13 (45:27):
We have a meeting every year, you know, sometimes twice
a year on the standard of doing business in our room.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
And that's part of it, is the toughness.
Speaker 13 (45:35):
Also being accountable to the guy next to you, because
if you can't count on you being in there, his
job's affected. So uh, as long as we keep adding
players like that into our room, we're gonna we're gonna
have a great room for.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Years to come.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And last one, I promise. So your new assistant, I
want to I want to hear about him. It's Sean Surrett, right, yes, yes, Surret.
Sean Surrett, who's with the Chargers of the last three seasons,
new assistant for Chris. He's the right hand man for
the moving company. His nickname is an offensive lineman at
Kent State was sweet Feet. What what tell us? So
Wikipedia was right? What are some keys to fulfilling the
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role as your assistant offensive line coach?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
For me? All right? A couple of things is.
Speaker 13 (46:21):
Might be able to trust the guy which I knew
right away and I got some background experience, might be
able to trust them, you know with what we're teaching,
be able to handle you know, a group of guys
when we do split work. The thing that I got
in Sean is I got an O line coach. I'm
talking about a head O line coach. He's done this before,
he's done this in the past on his own Steelers, right, Yes,
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So I get I get another set of eyes. That's
kind of my checks and balances, like, hey, am I
Am I doing this the right way?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Like?
Speaker 13 (46:49):
Should I say this in a different way? Should I
be teaching this guy another thing? And so when you
have somebody that you trust and you trust what they
see and also there's no you know, there's there's not
going to be any you know, sensitivity when we're going
back and forth on what we want to do, what's
the right thing to do. As long as you have
that in which I do in a guy like Sean,
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I feel confident with him, you know, running any meeting,
you know, as we get to know each other, as
we he digests the offense because he's learning the offense too.
But he's he's done a great job with these rookies,
running the rookie meetings at night and keeping them on task.
And we've seen the fruits of his labor out here
early in camp. These guys are understanding the concepts and
being able to operate out there, meaning they're gonna get
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on the field a little bit faster than they typically
would when we got first and the second group.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
In the majority of the reps.
Speaker 13 (47:37):
Now I can sprinkle in a guy here and there
because he understands it. Because because Shawn's been doing extra
outside of that room for us.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
The coop, the coop, the coop is on fire. Chris Cooper,
offensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings over to Ben Gestlin,
who covers the team for the strip. He's the scribe
and that's next.
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