August 1, 2024 • 48 mins
JJ McCarthy vibes at camp, Jets vox Bob Wisachusen for adversary intel, and then you'll hear from Vikes ST coordinator Matt Daniels during Vikes Bites!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, take care, probably wal.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Big boys back nine to noon. There's an old fashioned
ass kicking right here. Just listen. There are many many
positives I can get out of this game.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
That's the Viking.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, calm down, Oh my god, you lucky suckers. You
would exchange the conversations with some gates.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hut do hut.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But Duke is on. Here we go now on a Thursday.
It's nine to noon. Paul Allen Nordo f M one
hundred point three k f A N The butt bit
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went fine.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Can you repeat the part of this stuff where you
said all about the things?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Did you give updates on the butt bit yesterday? Because
I was getting some text messages like like periodically between
nine and noons, yeah, saying like like like news do
Nordo gave an update on the colonoscopy And.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, we just tried to We tried to keep people
posted the text line.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Hundreds of people, no hyperbole, wanting minute by minute updates
as fast as they.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Could in terms of to make sure that I had been.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Receiving and I framed it up like this, I have
received proof of life confirmation. Yeah, that this is no
longer a thing, and everything's fine. We'll love at this
in five years and as you as you said it,
the butt bit, the butt bit went was a successful operation.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The Dan Hayes interview I heard driving to Twin Cities
Orthopedics Performance Center to memorize numbers and body types for
the Life Changer August tenth, three o'clock US Bank Stadium
pre season Raiders. Shoulders are looking big with the with
the trading deadline having come and gone. I mean, he
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made the clubhouse sound like a cross between a mutiny
and that of just ultimate chagrin. Yeah, no, everything, I'm like,
I'm like, damn they I mean they're gonna get killed today.
I mean, they're just upset. Didn't bring anybody in management,
doesn't believe in us, don't care about the TV deal.
It's just it's just woe begone type stuff. And then
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they can go out there and just whoop pass on
the Metropolitan Hell yeah. Yeah. And it was great talking
with Dan, getting that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Vibe there because the we know the natives are restless
on the fans side, and you know, we we should
we should do this though that the Twins don't play today, But.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Congratulations for a.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Small convenience charge, twins fans will be able to watch
their favorite team on the major cable provider.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Congrats to them now with the with the butt bit.
I'm three of those into it, and I've become an
elite coll and oscoby mind. And the only way to
do it for those of you, pardon the puns sitting
on one is eight thirty in the morning or sooner.
I mean I made a key decision to wake up
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the day before at like four in the morning. Yeah,
so you get super tired at seven, seven thirty or eight,
and then you just kind of sleep your way through
the hunger, and then you get up again at four.
I think it's magnesium sit trait trait sitrait that you
got to take, okay, and then there's not much waiting around.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And the cool thing about it, too, is is you're
so locked into this process.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They said, Paul, well we'll see you in five years,
and you say, what kind of how about I see
you in six months?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I always liked.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I go to m n g I in Bloomington, and
that's that's where I've had all three of the colonoscopies,
and everybody there is absolutely fantastic. Your announcer is probe
and scope free for five years, and that's a beautiful thing.
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A tiny bit of a weird situation when I learned
the doctor executing said procedure was a Green Bay Packers fan.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So I demanded a change, and they acquiesced. I'm just kidding.
My doctor a a doctor Watson, indeed loves the purple
and treated your announcer with kid gloves and tender loving care.
Of course, that's after I attempted to slide both the
anesthesiologist and anestatist five hundred dollars each to make sure
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the anesthesia was cranked up to ten. However, they deliver
that elixir.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm like, keep turning up the heat, ladies. So the
Jim Morrison of announcers has no idea what's going on
up there and down here, so so to land the
plane on the chute bit there. There is a pa
in PSA, and men forty eight and above sign up
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for one of these, all right. The first one I
had in twenty eighteen, we had a couple of problematic polyps.
I had to go back the next year and they
took care of it. So if you let those bad
boys linger, it's a cinch. There's a problem. So if
you're forty eight and older and you haven't had a colonoscoby,
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I would strongly suggest getting one. M n G I Bloomington,
That's where I go, and I appreciate each and every
one of you. Now, JJ McCarthy is anything but a
pain in the butt. It's this whole thing is developing
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before our eyes and our ears, and I'm loving it.
It's the nuance the quick twitch gifts NFL players and
defenses take away from you. No matter if you are
a pass rushing whiz, a quarterback, a speedy receiver who
thought all your moves at the D one level would
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get you open every single time. That ain't the case
early in training camp, even for the most gifted. So
the goal of those opposing the gifted is to take
away what you want to do and what you do
incredibly well. But the quick twitch gifts, for those who belong,
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they eventually rise to the surface. The high enders take
them back quickly and gain respect of players team wide.
And here's what I mean. But first, there's no take
to the bet. I mean, no change to the take,
No change to the bet, no change to the take.
I believe Darnold starts when they go to play the
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New York Giants. Mullins is the backup. McCarthy is the three.
Now that's not a unique opinion, at least at this
portion of the equation, But people are starting to see
things in training camp who have sizeable followings on the
social media platform or form za, and it just seems
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that they're starting to like elevate McCarthy's depth chart lot
in life. Maybe a little too early, but the gifts
are starting to emerge with this rookie, and I'm extremely
excited to see him versus the Raiders. And I don't
care if he's playing Max Crosby or Crosby Stills in
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Nash JJ McCarthy, you already can tell, and elite college
minds they'll know exactly what I'm talking about, those who
watched all of his games. He senses pressure and his
quick twitch getting away from him. So like chains Kirk
O chains Cuz buzz Kirk took the hits and the
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next play he'd zapp here for thirty, JJ ain't trying
to take hits and is getting a droit and feeling
it early in the rush and moving to the right spots.
It's an inherent gift not everybody has who plays that
spot now far hash to far sideline. The throws are
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gaining confidence and accuracy to match the powerful arm, when
to fire, when to float, when to aloft, when to
zing one in there and take a chance. That that
that that's all coming together right now before our eyes
and ears. And in this Raiders game, this preseason game
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coming up a week from Saturday, I'm really hoping he
gets loose on some runs. I mean, fans are in
for a treat because in this Raiders game, the first
preseason game, and and the the expectation is McCarthy not
only will play, but hopefully plays. A bunch is in
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preseason games period, but specifically the first one. It's it's
my belief that teams don't coach up much game specific
contain for plays in these games, and that's going to
play right into the hands of this quarterback who can run.
It's a it's it's a NFL Network game too, So
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it'd be really cool if the anti Vike got an
opportunity to see JJ McCarthy, if he rambled for like
eighty and a picturesque score.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I always love that one.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
A J.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
McCarthy. When he plays full time, this man is going
to be an incredibly popular player. With the way he
handles wins and losses. You can tell he was raised
not only within coaching ranks, but just raised by his
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parents or those who are closest to him. To realize,
humility is a very very important characteristic to have for
a leader, specifically when you play that spot and you know,
just knowing some things from him at Michigan where he
didn't lose much and he won a lot, it's the
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way he handles things. He comes at it with a vulnerable,
humility based approach, and it's authentic and it's natural. But
what I believe fans will like a Ton is the
boy is a gun slinger at heart. I mean, the
structure and the schemes of this offense are excellent, but
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best laid plans don't always work. So I'm seeing a
kid who is not afraid to take chances and use
the rocket arm to make big things happen, especially when
the design ain't there or something breaks down, which happens
quite frequently in National Football League regular season games. So
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I'm really really happy JJ McCarthy's on this team and
I enjoy watching a high end rookie quarterback take baby
steps through training camp. I mean, this is a rare situation.
You know, here here in the cornfields, we can go
back to Teddy and then all of a sudden he
lost his knee and really lost the starting status of
his career. I'm the kid takes chances, has some gun
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slinger to him, and he's going to be a treat
to watch, even beginning a week from Saturday, preseason game
number one against your Las Vegas Raiders. Friends on Foes
is next with vox Bob wishoes him of the New
York Jets. Then after that, special teams coordinator Matt Daniels
gives us tells on what do we expect with kickoffs
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this season and starts by sharing he witnessed something for
the first time in his three years here Monday at
the first padded practice, and he also shares he has
a list of non kickers that may be used to kickoff.
I mean, this thing has everything everybody in the National
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Football League perplexed. You got people wondering what happens when
there's a penalty and it's assessed on the kickoff, and
I'm like, has that not been explained? Holy cow? Timber
Tech TimberTech dot com, thank you for the What's on
Deck nine to noon Nordo produces and I'm Paul Allen.
Friends on Foes handles the New York Jets next on KFAM.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So the Jets will try what would be a go
ahead field goal, if not a game winning field goal
out of a hold of more sticks. I try and
put the Jets on home fifty four yards away. Hennessey
will snap there, it is the placement down, it's away,
It's got the distance it is, Ye, sir, Lock does it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Five seconds to go?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Fucks.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Friends on Foes Today continues and the New York Jets
are the focus the bike's Week five opponent over at
Tottenham Hotspur. Bob was shosing is into his twenty third
year calling New York Jets football. Also calls NHL games
and more for ESPN, and here he is, here's the box.
Thanks for the time, my man. Are things well?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, we played the Vikings this year, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We play you play us over there?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Do you know you're an elite?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Last year. Our season last at four plays, So I'm
just trying to get past that. I know we played
the forty nine ers. I haven't moved past that yet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well are you already so far down the road on
the nuance of Connor Bedard? And like how he matches
up against two way blue liner brock Favor that you
don't even know what the Jets skates schedule looks like?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Hey, that rock Favor Kevin Fiala trade. That's a Billy
Garren masterpiece now right there? Like that, come on now
that that has worked out?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like I agree with my man Billy g when he
said that that looking in the rear view mirror at
that trade, how can you not like it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, hey Bob when it called. When it comes to
calling hockey on ESPN or calling football on the radio,
how much different is the preparation?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, football on the radio for me obviously, And you
know this because you do the same. Half of it
is already in the bank, right, Like you've got a team,
so you know the vikings, so you can just you
don't even need a chart, right you you know everybody
on your team. I have the same team every single week.
I know them like the back of my hands. That helps.
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You really only need to worry about the opponent. Hockey
for me, because every single game can be too at times,
random teams I haven't even seen yet. It just requires
more prep. But it's a lot of the same. It's
a lot of name and number recognition, watching games and memorization.
And you know, hockey moved because it's so fast and
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you never know when they're gonna blow the whistle. That's
the other nice part about football. Football is so segmented. Right,
there's a play, the play is over, your analyst is talking,
there's a clock anywhere from twenty five to forty second.
You can watch the sideline. You can see you guys
leave if you pass them out. You can see who changes,
who goes in the game. You know, there's a little
bit of leads on there, so you're not necessarily taken
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by surprise as to who the players are. All of
a sudden, you know, the bucks down of the right
wing corner, it gets shot out the center. You turn
your head left and like eat, new guys are on
the ice that weren't there a minute ago. So yeah,
that that can be a challenge, But yeah, I mean
it's you know, they're folks so much fun, especially when
the games matter and you've had some spectacular, you know,
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meaningful games. And we're hoping now that if Aaron Rodgers
can stay healthy, the kids will have the same. Just
you're hoping that the games matter in December, right, and
and then you go from there and you get lucky
and you win some of those games in December that matter,
and now you really get to play the games in
January that matter. But a long time for the jests
that that's happened, and that's a real moment.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Is the is the A with Diggs leaving the division
and and Miami's good and Miami's fast?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But is the division a little more wide open this
year than maybe the last five ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I never believe that that's the case until the quarterback
leads the team, right, That's just my belief. Like Keon
Coleman I called some of his games at Florida, James,
do I think he is going to be as good
as Stefan Dates on day one?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Do I think he could potentially become as good as
Stefan David again, But I think he's got that kind
of a ceiling but the guy throwing it to him
is still there. Yeah, and that guy can still run
around and make anybody look silly. You know how many
times did Tom Brady's wide receivers change for twenty years
in New England, And how many times did those wide
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receivers even go to the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well, like outside of Randy Moss, who, of course everyone
in Minnesota knows how good Randy Moss was. But run
through the rest of Tom Brady's receivers and tell me
how many of those guys were anywhere nearest but as
Randy Moss or even Pro bowlers, what number twelve was
still back there? So that to me, if they still
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have Josh Allen, then I don't take them. I don't
think they've taken even a small step back as long
as they still have their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What speaking of quarterbacks, what has it been like working
with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I've got to work with him so briefly that
you know, I didn't really even get to settle in.
You only had a chance really to get to know
him a little bit during the preseason. But he was
wonderful and has been to me anytime I've had a
chance to talk to him, super engaging, like tucking football,
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thoughtful answers, happy to come over and do an interview,
like everything that I heard, and maybe just being the
machinery getting out of like that the coon in green
Bay and coming to maybe a little bit more of
a spread your wings, you know, number.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
One media market.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know, he can go to a like get out
of the you know, like the I guess the the
jail cell of a really small place, and all of
a sudden as that a Yankee game, he's at a concert,
he's at a Nixon Rangers game, like he's doing things
that he probably didn't have a chance to do and
when he was in Green Bay, and he really enjoyed that.
So maybe that kind of fresh start made him a
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little bit easier to deal with as well. But all
of the things that I heard about the really hard
you know beat I experienced and have experienced none of that.
He's been great.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh what what do you think he and Garrett Wilson
were talking about in the now Ballehood change?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I love it there for a second, said that one again.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He and Garrett Wilson, What what do you think they
were talking about in the now Balleyhood exchange.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, they you know, they actually talked about that not
long after and basically, like you know, Garrett Milton said that,
you know, Aaron Rodgers believed because I know Aaron Rodgers
has said this to some that the only way you
went on Sunday is if you're the up this intense
Monday through Friday. And that's exactly what that is. And
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what right, like, if you have that kind of we
are not getting it done right now, we are you know,
dragging our rear ends. We've got to pick it up.
And Garrett Wilson is also an extremely competitive guy, and
so that's just a little bit of that, right Like
it's it's just two super competitive guys being super competitive
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and having like a game day attitude on a Tuesday
afternoon in training camp. And I mean that's a positive,
it's not a negative. Like I love when guys are
chirping at each other and you see that level of competition.
Competition is a good thing. But raise that during training
camp and then have that on day one and the
fact that those two guys are driving each other and
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that Aaron Rodgers is you know, in the ear of
a top ten wide receiver that way, and then a
top ten wide receiver feels comfortable enough to go back
at him a little bit and there's a give and take.
Great you know, I again, I don't think there's like that.
That will probably only grow the relationship between those.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Two rookie tackle ol lou FASHIONU what what are you
hearing about him? And when he starts it? Could it
be at right tackle?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
He could probably start at either. They love him. I
think they think he's a twelve year starter, but they're
not also blind to the fact that they've got two
players that are day one starters and won like a
walk in Hall of Favor in Tyron Smith. Right, So
you bring in up you know, and Morgan Moses. You
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bring it two veteran bookend tackles. But take a look
at Smith and take a look at Moses. The last
five or six years we'll get the last time and
either one of them got through an entire season healthy.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So there, to me, that was a very educated pick.
We've got these two guys that can absolutely go out
and dominate a game for us still went healthy. But
let's be honest, they're both way closer to the end
of their careers than the part of the beginning. Is
either guy gonna play seventeen games either of them? Probably not,
so I think the shadow could end up starting seven
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or eight games between spelling both of them by the
time of the year's over and they realized that they knew
they needed a third guy. It's right in baseball, you
get a three these pitchers, you still by the time
one hundred and sixty two games is done. No, you're
never gonna have enough starting pitch. You just can't have
enough of it. I mean, when you get a forty
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year old quarterback, you can't have enough passer gestor. And
so that's why they traffed him. They also know there's
a chance they're gonna need him as a starter next year.
But thatually, I mean, these guys might be a one
year solution. And what better room to sit in if
you're Olavushano than to sit next to those two guys
in the film room, to be on their him during
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training camp, to watch them work, to learn from them,
to watch their technique. I mean a Clarren Smith is
the first ballot Hall of Famer, and how you get
to pick his brain every day? That that's what we use.
Like Jordan Travis from Florida State has to get him
now in the fourth round, the third round or whatever.
And like he gets to sit in a room with
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Aaron Rodgers every day. Brilliant. What better way to train
young quarterback to training tackle focks.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Bob was shoes him into his twenty third year calling
New York Jets football and the Vikings hooked the Jets
week five at Tottenham Hotspur.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
If you if you have any Xcel Energy games on
your schedule, look forward to it. I'll come up and
say hello and thank you very much for the time yept.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank you for reminding me that appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Thank you. That's uh, that's the fox Bob was shooes
him with the New York Football Jets. We had a
tricky phone connection there, to say the least, but hopefully
there were a couple of things Vikings heard in the equation.
He when when he said Aaron Rodgers left Green Bay,
he first called it a cocoon and then he basically
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said leaving Green Bay was leaving a jail cell.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I might punch him in the state.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So there's that. This is to noon nine thirty five
in the Neighborhood. The Neighborhood is FM one hundred point
three KFA and you're home from Minnesota Vikings football and
they're special teams into this year. It's it's extremely compelling.
It's just there are some intriguing facets, at least to me,
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that that are going to bear fruit during the course
of the season, and I think potentially catch people off guard.
You know, there's the Alabama rookie kicking already won the job.
What are they going to do on kickoffs? There's a
punter battle between one who passes and another who was
a college wide receiver and is incredibly athletic. And I
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love new and loathe the rots. Same with special teams
coordinator Matt Daniels. As you'll hear now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Cool eving to everybody. Good to be back.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
I always love a nice fresh smell of cut grass.
All season is underway, and you know, it's nothing better
than when you got you start to be able to
play real football and we put the paths on. It's
no longer just T shirts and shorts. I would say,
you know, our first padded practice that we had Monday
was probably one of, if not the most physical practices
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that we've had since I've been here. It's interesting because
we're working with these guardian caps and so you're not
you typically don't hear the cracking of the helmets and
the root true physicality of it. But when you cut
the tape on, there was a lot of violent hands.
There's a lot of block destruction going on, some great
blocks going on up front within the interior, defensive linement,
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the office of linement.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So it was really good to see.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
And that's really what this camp is really all about,
us building up that identity, you know, playing that tough, physical,
greedy football play style of what we're looking for, and
we're heading in the right direction. We had a little
bit of heat, which has been great for us. A
little human a little hot which requires a lot more communication,
requires a lot of guys to be a lot more
doubt and from a mental land physical standpoint, elite communication
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from a non verbal and verbal standpoint, and so it's
been great for the guys to kind of feel the
heat because it's really been tensing us in all aspects.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
That's communication what fatigue.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Fatigue comes into play when guys get tired, they get
they started to get lazy. When it starts starts coming
to the communication, are you really getting across to every
all eleven players are all on the same page. So
when guys get tired, you know, they're more focused on
breathing than they are actually true communicating. So with that,
you know, you got to find ways to communicate non verbally.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Hey, Matt, having several months to reflect on it and
then also prepare for it, how are you feeling about
the new kickoff of this show.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I'm feeling great about the new kickoff. I think it's
a great thing that the NFL is doing trying to
you know, really, I'm all for innovation and creativity. At
the end of the day, that's kind of what the
game needs. Not not to say that the old kickoff
kind of felt a little staunched, but it's good to
have have. You know, we're looking to try to introduce
a new kickoff rule where you know, we increase the
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amount of plays from a special team standpoint, decrease.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The amount of concussions take that does take place.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
How can we limit the high speed collisions that happen.
And you know, at the end of the day, it's
going to give a lot more opportunities to a lot
more guys. Maybe you might be able to put you know,
some more starters out there. Just because you're eliminating the
running phase of it, it's going to require a lot
more creativity, scheming, schematically, coaching is going to be heavily
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involved in it. And so with that, you know, it's
a challenge, but all of us should really embrace the
challenge because that's all a part of it, just our growth.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I have the players embrace the time.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
You know, it's an adjustment for sure, but they love
the idea of it, they love the creativity behind it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
They're really excited about it.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I think the biggest thing is just trying to figure
out what exactly is it going to look. Look like,
you have a good sense of it just kind of
looking at the XFL tape, but it's a lot different
when the kickoff team is starting from the forty versus
the thirty five in the XFL, just because of that
space and in that distance, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Much more it's much more different.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
And you know, you're talking about elite ball carriers in
our league. You know, having that space where the timing
of it is going to be a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Being able to defeat blocks is going to be a
premium in our league. And so with that, you know.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Guys are excited about it, excited about what this commands
that come with it, the personnel that you have to
provide for it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So with that, you know it's gonna be good. People
have talked about.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
A need for maybe tickering it early on. Is there
an aspect of it that you that you see, Could
you know a change happen or you desire a change
to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I think it's for it to all be on paper.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
At the moment, it all looks good in my eyes,
and you know, we'll see how the rules play out,
especially when you start talking about posting out penalties. Maybe
you might get an usborsement, like after a touchdown, how
is that going to be assessed? Maybe there's a rough
en the kicker after an extra point? You know, what
is that going to look like? Kicking off from the
twenty versus having to kick off from the fifty. Some
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of those things I think would be something that'll be interesting.
How we want to really set the rules when we
do get ready for the regular season.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
There was a stat about in the XFL the kicker
got involved kind of a lot on the tackles. What
is your feeling about how often if the kicker is
going to have to be kind of a defender there.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, for sure, that's that's a big one, you know,
And we did a study the kicker does does kind
of get heavily involved just because things are happening a
lot faster, just because of the ball blocker relationship that
does take place on the play, and so you know,
you have to find ways. There's a lot of different
ways schematically and how you can really deviate and really
kind of have the kicker stay out of it.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't want to kind of get into debt with that,
but they're always for.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
You to be able to kind of keep your kicker
out of the play. But in the XFL, they were
heavily involved, and it's a little scary, be honest.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
With you notice to be different among playing across teams
or do you think eventually it's just gonna take Do
you think the play itself is going to look noticeably.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Different across teams or do you think over time and
with this.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Kind of fronto.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
For sure, I think believe that within the first three weeks,
I think that this play is gonna win and lose
a lot of teams games because eventually you know, this
league does a great job of adapting and picking up
you know, schematics, really truly what's going on. And you
know that's really what make us kind of elite is,
you know, being able to adapt and pick up on things.
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But I do see it. I do see it being
a heavily impact. It is going to look a lot different,
especially for the fans. You know, the first couple of games,
it'll be an adjustment for sure. But once we kind
of get into the groove of things and everybody kind
of sees what's going on, what is everyone doing from
a kickoff standpoint? You know, what are the schimmatics from
a ko R standpoint? You know, people really starting to
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pick up on it. It might start kind of looks
same a little bit with a couple of tweets here
and there.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
What do you think of return wise right now as
far as who the returners would be?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And are you definitely two or do you think there'll
be times when you have one?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
It always it'll be dependent on really who are we
playing against, what are the tendancs are in terms of
kick direction?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
What type of bar are they kicking?
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Do we have a beat on where the ball is
actually being kicked. You know, if we don't, then maybe
we need to put two back there. You know, the
consensus around the league is that they're there, that it's
going to require two people to two returners back there,
just because kickers have the ability to place it wherever
they want to, whether it's a fastball, squid ball, a knuckleball,
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a high ball, and so you know, you really want
to the biggest thing is is getting the football back.
You know, that's that's the priority is getting the football back.
So you know, ideally you want to be able to
make sure you can assure that. So that might require
you to have two people back there.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Who are you thinking personnel wise here that fits that that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Yeah, you know, obviously we have can they you know,
Brandon Powell is an option. We have a couple of
other guys. I don't want to kind of get into
that too much, keV, but we have we have a
lot of elite ball carriers back there who who's well capable.
And you know the thing is is that because the
kickoff rule has changed, it's really also changed who you
want to put back there, just because the ability of
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from a schematic standpoint, what you're able to do with
those guys, and how fast really blocks actually occurred, the vision,
you know, the speed, your ability to set up returns,
and so with that, you know, there's certain characteristics that
you really like and you really really appreciate out of
some guys who you might not appreciate as much when
from the old kickoff roule.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
With making a decision at Kicker, Just what has impressed
you overall with with Will?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
And then how does it, I guess impact him to
be able to just focus on all the reps.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Now, yeah, you know, you know that was an unfortunate situation.
You know, we really really wanted to continue to see
John Parker Romao. I thought he was doing a great job,
and you know Will did too, because when he first
came in here, he understood to know what he was
up against, like to get to the job wasn't going
to just be given him because he was a draft pick.
He truly wanted to earn the right of his teammates,
the respective his teammates and.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
To win the job.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
And you know, we got to a point obviously whatever
some roster changes that need to happen, and as a result,
we kind of had to make that make that make
that move. But Will has done an unbelievable job since
he's gotten here. You all kind of got a good
look of what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And you know, he's steady, yeady.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
He's a guy that he's really maintains a good neutral
mindset and you truly never know when he's in a
good mood or when he's in a bad mood. You know,
he can go perfect on to day and he's still
just even killed. It's like, you know, that was a
good day. And he'll tell you like, you know, on
the scale of one to ten hours of five and
it's like, you went perfect and you know he had
every ball and went all the way back.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
To sixty and he's like, now that that wasn't good enough.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
And so he has expectations and he has high standards
for himself and that's really what you appreciate. And you
know we've gone to discussion now that now he is
our kicker on you know, what season goals look like
and what tramp go what training camp goals look like,
and you know, I have an idea of what he
looks like, and you know he's kind of telling me
like that's not good enough, you know, and you know,
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I appreciate that. I really appreciate the edginess that he
has and you know, the mindset that he has, and
that's the reason why we drafted him because because of that,
that mindset that.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Which will with the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Are you working it all on technique just as far
as the potential difference.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
Is absolutely, you know, you look at there's so many
different situations that come up.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
In the game, at the end of game.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Situations, you know, do we want to put into play?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What type of ball do we hit?
Speaker 7 (35:20):
So we've been throwing out a lot of different, you know,
variations of kicks, you know, just kind of throw them
off guard, depending on what it is, directly hitting it
one way, you know, hitting hot balls, mixing it up.
So there's a lot of different variations kicks that we've
been working through just in case you know, there's you know,
any situation does occur and the head man it's like, hey,
I want this type of ball.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We need to make sure that we're well prepared for that.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Man, how do you handle in the preseason in terms
of trying to get reps on those things versus not
showing your hands.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah, that's always that's always an interesting thing. Then in
terms of what do you want to show in the preseason,
you know, obviously, the good thing about it is is
that now that we've shrunk the field in terms of
how much running is involved, we're able to work as
much as we need to in practice, and so it
might not be a need to actually show, you know,
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what we're actually going to do when the season rolls
around from a preseason standpoint, So you know, maybe we
might show some things, maybe we might not. You know,
we're still kind of working through, you know, if we
really truly want to show our hand you know, before
week one.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Man, if you have any non kickers who have raised
their hands and so they're happy to kick it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
We we have a couple guys on the roster who
does have the ability to kick, and you know, we've
been kind of working through that. It's just you just
got to be a little careful and tread lightly with that,
just in terms of because these position players, you know,
they don't truly know like what a kicking warm up
looks like per se. You know, they might just finish
practice and thinking like all right, you know, I've been
running around all practice.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I can go. You know, my legs feel good. I
can go, you know, try to go hit a fifty
yard sixty yard kickoff. But you got to be a
little bit careful with that.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
They gotta understand though, like the grow wings, you know,
a lot of soft tissue injuries occur, so there's a
proper way to warm them up, and there's a proper
way to go about kind of doing that.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
So we just got to be.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Careful with who we put out there and make sure
we're working it the right way. Last thing we want
is for you know, running back the dang tears growing
because he's trying to work on kickoffs pop practice.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
You know, that'll get me fired.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Is that a serious thing that you're taking seriously or
just something that that people.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You know, if we can find a guy who can
consistently put it in play or put it in his
zone or put it within the land of zone, you know,
we'll definitely do that because it's an advantage, right, it's
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Obviously they aren't allowed.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
To go beyond the fifty yards, attend the ball is called,
or hit the ground, but if you do add add
a guy in there who is unaccounted from achay R standpoint,
and he's a free hitter.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You want to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I'm gonna be talking.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
About at skill sets and attributes to change a little bit.
Here does does straight line speed become a little less
of a factor in your returners?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Because to a degree, to agree to a degree, it does. Yes,
But there's still enough spacing to where a guy is
able to work in edge the guy stacked and still
be able to use your speed to his advantage, especially
considering you know the personnel out there. Will it be
bigger guys out there who might not have great lateral
field or great lateral agility to be able to keep
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up with some of these speed guys. So, you know,
there's a there's a little bit of a back and
forth in terms of you know, now, does it really
nullify a void guys who are big time speed players
or you know, lighter bodies out there. You know, it
kind of depends on schematically, how how you divvy it
up and you know where you where you place those
guys at. How does this.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Change scouting for you?
Speaker 9 (38:31):
Just looking at what you posting special teams units are
going to do for me too weak.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yeah, I think that's that's a good question. I personally
think that the personnel is is kind of stay somewhat
the same. It just might be you might have your
starting linebacker out there now, or you're starting safety not
necessarily at that safety position and may be more of
as a true penetrating guy. But I think that the
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personnel is somewhat stayed the same right there, just in
terms of you you know, to get fifty three people
and you know, forty eight people dressed, and.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So you got to utilize what you got.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
So I don't think it'll change much, but from a
scouting standpoint, you know, it'll be interesting. You definitely got
to be very, very attended to the detail and do
a great job of identifying, you know, certain guys where
they line up at you know, how are they truly
using this guy?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Are they trying to hide them as a safety and
kind of those aspects of the game.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
That's a couplet THEO Jackson has really carved out himself
a role in the defense and what if you see
from his development over the last couple of years since
you guys picked him up and then music.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Yeah, you know, Theo Jackson has done nothing, but he's
an ascended player in this league. And what you love
the most about I always talk about, you know, there's
two things when it comes to special teams players that
I really look at.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Its versatility and courage.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
And Theo Jackson has exact exactly those two attributes that
you look for. He's versatile, you can match him up
on safety, he's running backs, linebackers, receivers right, and so
with that ability, it gives you the access to do
any and everything with this guy.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Again, he's an incendive player.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
He's just a flat out football player, and that's what
you appreciate. He's smart, he's instinctive, he does you know,
if he does does anything incorrect, it's a one quick
fix and he doesn't make that same mistake again. And
you know, the biggest thing is he's inconsistent. He shows
up every day, he works hard. He's got unbelievable respect
from his teammates. He's attentive to the details. He's very
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intentional about his work. Every single day he comes out
and he has a goal or of what he wants
to do and how he's going to go about doing it.
And you know, he's truly setting himself up to be
a true leader of this team and a valuable asset
for us.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
With one of the appeals and the change is being
increasing player safety. Have there been instances in your career,
either from players or coaches of them voice singing a
desire for the game to be safer.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's so funny.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
You know, myself, back when I was playing, you know,
I was a hard hitter, and you know, I look
at the game now on the sidelines and I'm like, dang,
this is a violent game that we're playing. Violent game,
and so you look at it, the guardian caps being added,
I think it's a huge bonus.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
You know, it doesn't you know this for the swag
of it.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
It's not a good look from a swag standpoint, but
it protects players, right, It protects players.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
And so I'm appreciative of that.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
I'm appreciative of them switching the kickoff rule to try
to reduce concussions and limit the ice speed collision that
does take place. And so the NFL, you know, obviously,
being with it being the most popular sport in the world,
you want to find ways to keep players healthy, right,
keep players healthy. That's that's the biggest goal at the
end of the day. And so you know, I'm really
appreciative of the rule changes that's taking place of really
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trying to emphasize player safety.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
And you know, there are guys that.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Come to us with, you know, concern of how can
we make the game safe?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Appreciate all right, the con what kind of a fine
mess if you've gotten us into now with this kickoff
thing NFL the the a topic out of it. Okay,
And and you know I and we knew this by
hearing it and reading through it. But the way special
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teams coordinator Matt Daniels laid out how the early stages
of the season he believes will go and and Matt,
you know Matts, Matt's very open with stuff like this,
and and when when he casts his gaze the way
to things like this, generally speaking, they happen. And he
said there are going to be games decided the first
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few weeks of the NFL season because of the kickoff situation,
you know, which means it's it's it's just abundantly apparent
to me there are many of that variety who believe
we are sitting on a national football league record for
kick returns in a season, kick return touchdowns in a season.
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But the a topic out of it. NFL coverage guys
started the four. It's the thirty five in the XFL,
and that fifteen feet means a lot when you can't
take off until the ball hits the ground, or the
ball is touched, or the ball is caught. So the
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imagery is really all we have right now. We like
Matt said, you can look at XFL tape, but they
start from the thirty five, so they're closer to the
blockers and the returner. Well, the NFL, undoubtedly, in an
attempt to have more explosivity within the kick return game,
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that they're going to have the coverage guys start at
the forty. So that five yards, that fifteen feet right there, Man,
that that matters a lot. I guess I didn't realize
how much it mattered until until hearing Matt yesterday.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yeah, the whole thing, the whole thing's going to continue
to look weird. I actually what keyed in about this
making a difference. I mean in players lining up, it's
going to look different. And the return team they line
up at the thirty five, so they got to stand
five yards away from each other, and then when the
ball is hit or caught in the quote unquote landing zone,
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then it's then.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's you know, absolutely on time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So the but the biggest thing for me, I think
what a keyt on in that conversation is is not
even where they're lining up, et cetera. The point is
is that it's weird and different, and so the acclamation period.
Even they can take all these reps during practices and things,
but their end of things it making a difference in
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games early in the season. He's talking about mistakes, he's
talking about human error. He's talking about opportunities where somebody
isn't thinking right, somebody's still again getting used to a
new process and teams being able to take advantage of it.
So the importance of our squad understanding the new rules
and all that what happens if it hits the ground
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and then rolls into the end zone. What the touchback means?
I mean, you can have a touchback on the twenty,
the thirty, or the forty based on this new kickoff rule,
and so games being decided by it. That lends me
to believe that there's gonna be chaos that's what he's
talking about, that there will be chaos early on now
as we as we you know, you look at it
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on paper. By the way, I'm reading the rules in
front of me, it's very difficult to visualize without the
accompaniment of an xl XFL video to go along with it.
I think that within the first four weeks, I'd say
within the first month, I think we're going to start
looking at this, especially if there are unique plays that
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are generated out of it. You talk about forcing the
action and forcing returns, and then you're seeing those touchdowns
you're seeing. I think people ultimately, if that takes place,
they're going to love it. They're gonna hate it if
they're on the wrong side of one, but they're gonna
love it if they're on the right side of one.
And it takes a non play right you you know,
every day I mean colonoscopy aside.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
And.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'm sorry, your boom has rung hollow. Your boom has
rung hollow with all of the touchbacks. PA. So now
if they're forcing the action, the boom is back to life.
If they're forcing action and forcing returns, I think it's
a positive thing. And I think after a month of
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the first time of getting to see this game by
game by game, the average person will easily pick up
the rules and all the nuances of it. I think
fans are gonna love it. I'm excited to see it
in motion in an NFL game, the catchers and receivers
can move around. Okay, So therefore we got a boom
and you got a returner who can time it and
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run up on it.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
So he goes full speed. But the others with the
ones trying to catch him and trap him and hit
him and stop him, they're not full speed and he is.
They can't move until he touches it.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
So I mean you got Devin Hester, the new school
Devin Hester back there with Soljia boy playing and he's
bouncing around and everyone's going nuts, and the Corderoo Patterson's
of the world. You give Hey, what do you think
happens when you give Cordero Patterson ten yard run up?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (47:17):
In motion near full speed? Wow, right near that quote
unquote landing zone, slash preparing line. Whatever the heck it is,
It's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun.
It's new. It takes a effectively pointless play and brings
some life to.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
It, which teams will expose flaws in the system quickest
and here, and I'll bring this up with Ben Lever.
You know it's a no chancer or a minimal chancer.
Justin Jefferson would be amazing at this kick returning situation,
absolutely amazing because of his quick twitch slide and making
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people miss. But like Matt said, I mean, you put
Justin Jefferson or somebody out there and we got a
problem on a kick and you lose this guy for
five games. That's how you get fired. Aggressive coordinators will
line drive trying to wreak havoc, and those of the
more conservative ILK will bang it out of the end zone.
Somebody who played a lot of special teams during his career,
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Ben Leber. He joins US next
Man, take care, probably wal.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Big boys back nine to noon. There's an old fashioned
ass kicking right here. Just listen. There are many many
positives I can get out of this game.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
That's the Viking.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, calm down, Oh my god, you lucky suckers. You
would exchange the conversations with some gates.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hut do hut.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But Duke is on. Here we go now on a Thursday.
It's nine to noon. Paul Allen Nordo f M one
hundred point three k f A N The butt bit
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went fine.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Can you repeat the part of this stuff where you
said all about the things?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Did you give updates on the butt bit yesterday? Because
I was getting some text messages like like periodically between
nine and noons, yeah, saying like like like news do
Nordo gave an update on the colonoscopy And.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, we just tried to We tried to keep people
posted the text line.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Hundreds of people, no hyperbole, wanting minute by minute updates
as fast as they.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Could in terms of to make sure that I had been.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Receiving and I framed it up like this, I have
received proof of life confirmation. Yeah, that this is no
longer a thing, and everything's fine. We'll love at this
in five years and as you as you said it,
the butt bit, the butt bit went was a successful operation.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The Dan Hayes interview I heard driving to Twin Cities
Orthopedics Performance Center to memorize numbers and body types for
the Life Changer August tenth, three o'clock US Bank Stadium
pre season Raiders. Shoulders are looking big with the with
the trading deadline having come and gone. I mean, he
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made the clubhouse sound like a cross between a mutiny
and that of just ultimate chagrin. Yeah, no, everything, I'm like,
I'm like, damn they I mean they're gonna get killed today.
I mean, they're just upset. Didn't bring anybody in management,
doesn't believe in us, don't care about the TV deal.
It's just it's just woe begone type stuff. And then
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they can go out there and just whoop pass on
the Metropolitan Hell yeah. Yeah. And it was great talking
with Dan, getting that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Vibe there because the we know the natives are restless
on the fans side, and you know, we we should
we should do this though that the Twins don't play today, But.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Congratulations for a.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Small convenience charge, twins fans will be able to watch
their favorite team on the major cable provider.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Congrats to them now with the with the butt bit.
I'm three of those into it, and I've become an
elite coll and oscoby mind. And the only way to
do it for those of you, pardon the puns sitting
on one is eight thirty in the morning or sooner.
I mean I made a key decision to wake up
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the day before at like four in the morning. Yeah,
so you get super tired at seven, seven thirty or eight,
and then you just kind of sleep your way through
the hunger, and then you get up again at four.
I think it's magnesium sit trait trait sitrait that you
got to take, okay, and then there's not much waiting around.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
And the cool thing about it, too, is is you're
so locked into this process.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They said, Paul, well we'll see you in five years,
and you say, what kind of how about I see
you in six months?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I always liked.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I go to m n g I in Bloomington, and
that's that's where I've had all three of the colonoscopies,
and everybody there is absolutely fantastic. Your announcer is probe
and scope free for five years, and that's a beautiful thing.
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A tiny bit of a weird situation when I learned
the doctor executing said procedure was a Green Bay Packers fan.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So I demanded a change, and they acquiesced. I'm just kidding.
My doctor a a doctor Watson, indeed loves the purple
and treated your announcer with kid gloves and tender loving care.
Of course, that's after I attempted to slide both the
anesthesiologist and anestatist five hundred dollars each to make sure
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the anesthesia was cranked up to ten. However, they deliver
that elixir.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm like, keep turning up the heat, ladies. So the
Jim Morrison of announcers has no idea what's going on
up there and down here, so so to land the
plane on the chute bit there. There is a pa
in PSA, and men forty eight and above sign up
(05:35):
for one of these, all right. The first one I
had in twenty eighteen, we had a couple of problematic polyps.
I had to go back the next year and they
took care of it. So if you let those bad
boys linger, it's a cinch. There's a problem. So if
you're forty eight and older and you haven't had a colonoscoby,
(05:55):
I would strongly suggest getting one. M n G I Bloomington,
That's where I go, and I appreciate each and every
one of you. Now, JJ McCarthy is anything but a
pain in the butt. It's this whole thing is developing
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before our eyes and our ears, and I'm loving it.
It's the nuance the quick twitch gifts NFL players and
defenses take away from you. No matter if you are
a pass rushing whiz, a quarterback, a speedy receiver who
thought all your moves at the D one level would
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get you open every single time. That ain't the case
early in training camp, even for the most gifted. So
the goal of those opposing the gifted is to take
away what you want to do and what you do
incredibly well. But the quick twitch gifts, for those who belong,
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they eventually rise to the surface. The high enders take
them back quickly and gain respect of players team wide.
And here's what I mean. But first, there's no take
to the bet. I mean, no change to the take,
No change to the bet, no change to the take.
I believe Darnold starts when they go to play the
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New York Giants. Mullins is the backup. McCarthy is the three.
Now that's not a unique opinion, at least at this
portion of the equation, But people are starting to see
things in training camp who have sizeable followings on the
social media platform or form za, and it just seems
(07:43):
that they're starting to like elevate McCarthy's depth chart lot
in life. Maybe a little too early, but the gifts
are starting to emerge with this rookie, and I'm extremely
excited to see him versus the Raiders. And I don't
care if he's playing Max Crosby or Crosby Stills in
(08:05):
Nash JJ McCarthy, you already can tell, and elite college
minds they'll know exactly what I'm talking about, those who
watched all of his games. He senses pressure and his
quick twitch getting away from him. So like chains Kirk
O chains Cuz buzz Kirk took the hits and the
(08:26):
next play he'd zapp here for thirty, JJ ain't trying
to take hits and is getting a droit and feeling
it early in the rush and moving to the right spots.
It's an inherent gift not everybody has who plays that
spot now far hash to far sideline. The throws are
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gaining confidence and accuracy to match the powerful arm, when
to fire, when to float, when to aloft, when to
zing one in there and take a chance. That that
that that's all coming together right now before our eyes
and ears. And in this Raiders game, this preseason game
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coming up a week from Saturday, I'm really hoping he
gets loose on some runs. I mean, fans are in
for a treat because in this Raiders game, the first
preseason game, and and the the expectation is McCarthy not
only will play, but hopefully plays. A bunch is in
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preseason games period, but specifically the first one. It's it's
my belief that teams don't coach up much game specific
contain for plays in these games, and that's going to
play right into the hands of this quarterback who can run.
It's a it's it's a NFL Network game too, So
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it'd be really cool if the anti Vike got an
opportunity to see JJ McCarthy, if he rambled for like
eighty and a picturesque score.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I always love that one.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
A J.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
McCarthy. When he plays full time, this man is going
to be an incredibly popular player. With the way he
handles wins and losses. You can tell he was raised
not only within coaching ranks, but just raised by his
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parents or those who are closest to him. To realize,
humility is a very very important characteristic to have for
a leader, specifically when you play that spot and you know,
just knowing some things from him at Michigan where he
didn't lose much and he won a lot, it's the
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way he handles things. He comes at it with a vulnerable,
humility based approach, and it's authentic and it's natural. But
what I believe fans will like a Ton is the
boy is a gun slinger at heart. I mean, the
structure and the schemes of this offense are excellent, but
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best laid plans don't always work. So I'm seeing a
kid who is not afraid to take chances and use
the rocket arm to make big things happen, especially when
the design ain't there or something breaks down, which happens
quite frequently in National Football League regular season games. So
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I'm really really happy JJ McCarthy's on this team and
I enjoy watching a high end rookie quarterback take baby
steps through training camp. I mean, this is a rare situation.
You know, here here in the cornfields, we can go
back to Teddy and then all of a sudden he
lost his knee and really lost the starting status of
his career. I'm the kid takes chances, has some gun
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slinger to him, and he's going to be a treat
to watch, even beginning a week from Saturday, preseason game
number one against your Las Vegas Raiders. Friends on Foes
is next with vox Bob wishoes him of the New
York Jets. Then after that, special teams coordinator Matt Daniels
gives us tells on what do we expect with kickoffs
(12:20):
this season and starts by sharing he witnessed something for
the first time in his three years here Monday at
the first padded practice, and he also shares he has
a list of non kickers that may be used to kickoff.
I mean, this thing has everything everybody in the National
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Football League perplexed. You got people wondering what happens when
there's a penalty and it's assessed on the kickoff, and
I'm like, has that not been explained? Holy cow? Timber
Tech TimberTech dot com, thank you for the What's on
Deck nine to noon Nordo produces and I'm Paul Allen.
Friends on Foes handles the New York Jets next on KFAM.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So the Jets will try what would be a go
ahead field goal, if not a game winning field goal
out of a hold of more sticks. I try and
put the Jets on home fifty four yards away. Hennessey
will snap there, it is the placement down, it's away,
It's got the distance it is, Ye, sir, Lock does it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Five seconds to go?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Fucks.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Friends on Foes Today continues and the New York Jets
are the focus the bike's Week five opponent over at
Tottenham Hotspur. Bob was shosing is into his twenty third
year calling New York Jets football. Also calls NHL games
and more for ESPN, and here he is, here's the box.
Thanks for the time, my man. Are things well?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, we played the Vikings this year, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We play you play us over there?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Do you know you're an elite?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Last year. Our season last at four plays, So I'm
just trying to get past that. I know we played
the forty nine ers. I haven't moved past that yet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well are you already so far down the road on
the nuance of Connor Bedard? And like how he matches
up against two way blue liner brock Favor that you
don't even know what the Jets skates schedule looks like?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Hey, that rock Favor Kevin Fiala trade. That's a Billy
Garren masterpiece now right there? Like that, come on now
that that has worked out?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like I agree with my man Billy g when he
said that that looking in the rear view mirror at
that trade, how can you not like it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, hey Bob when it called. When it comes to
calling hockey on ESPN or calling football on the radio,
how much different is the preparation?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, football on the radio for me obviously, And you
know this because you do the same. Half of it
is already in the bank, right, Like you've got a team,
so you know the vikings, so you can just you
don't even need a chart, right you you know everybody
on your team. I have the same team every single week.
I know them like the back of my hands. That helps.
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You really only need to worry about the opponent. Hockey
for me, because every single game can be too at times,
random teams I haven't even seen yet. It just requires
more prep. But it's a lot of the same. It's
a lot of name and number recognition, watching games and memorization.
And you know, hockey moved because it's so fast and
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you never know when they're gonna blow the whistle. That's
the other nice part about football. Football is so segmented. Right,
there's a play, the play is over, your analyst is talking,
there's a clock anywhere from twenty five to forty second.
You can watch the sideline. You can see you guys
leave if you pass them out. You can see who changes,
who goes in the game. You know, there's a little
bit of leads on there, so you're not necessarily taken
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by surprise as to who the players are. All of
a sudden, you know, the bucks down of the right
wing corner, it gets shot out the center. You turn
your head left and like eat, new guys are on
the ice that weren't there a minute ago. So yeah,
that that can be a challenge, But yeah, I mean
it's you know, they're folks so much fun, especially when
the games matter and you've had some spectacular, you know,
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meaningful games. And we're hoping now that if Aaron Rodgers
can stay healthy, the kids will have the same. Just
you're hoping that the games matter in December, right, and
and then you go from there and you get lucky
and you win some of those games in December that matter,
and now you really get to play the games in
January that matter. But a long time for the jests
that that's happened, and that's a real moment.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Is the is the A with Diggs leaving the division
and and Miami's good and Miami's fast?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But is the division a little more wide open this
year than maybe the last five ten years.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I never believe that that's the case until the quarterback
leads the team, right, That's just my belief. Like Keon
Coleman I called some of his games at Florida, James,
do I think he is going to be as good
as Stefan Dates on day one?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Do I think he could potentially become as good as
Stefan David again, But I think he's got that kind
of a ceiling but the guy throwing it to him
is still there. Yeah, and that guy can still run
around and make anybody look silly. You know how many
times did Tom Brady's wide receivers change for twenty years
in New England, And how many times did those wide
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receivers even go to the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well, like outside of Randy Moss, who, of course everyone
in Minnesota knows how good Randy Moss was. But run
through the rest of Tom Brady's receivers and tell me
how many of those guys were anywhere nearest but as
Randy Moss or even Pro bowlers, what number twelve was
still back there? So that to me, if they still
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have Josh Allen, then I don't take them. I don't
think they've taken even a small step back as long
as they still have their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What speaking of quarterbacks, what has it been like working
with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I've got to work with him so briefly that
you know, I didn't really even get to settle in.
You only had a chance really to get to know
him a little bit during the preseason. But he was
wonderful and has been to me anytime I've had a
chance to talk to him, super engaging, like tucking football,
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thoughtful answers, happy to come over and do an interview,
like everything that I heard, and maybe just being the
machinery getting out of like that the coon in green
Bay and coming to maybe a little bit more of
a spread your wings, you know, number.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
One media market.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know, he can go to a like get out
of the you know, like the I guess the the
jail cell of a really small place, and all of
a sudden as that a Yankee game, he's at a concert,
he's at a Nixon Rangers game, like he's doing things
that he probably didn't have a chance to do and
when he was in Green Bay, and he really enjoyed that.
So maybe that kind of fresh start made him a
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little bit easier to deal with as well. But all
of the things that I heard about the really hard
you know beat I experienced and have experienced none of that.
He's been great.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh what what do you think he and Garrett Wilson
were talking about in the now Ballehood change?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I love it there for a second, said that one again.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He and Garrett Wilson, What what do you think they
were talking about in the now Balleyhood exchange.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, they you know, they actually talked about that not
long after and basically, like you know, Garrett Milton said that,
you know, Aaron Rodgers believed because I know Aaron Rodgers
has said this to some that the only way you
went on Sunday is if you're the up this intense
Monday through Friday. And that's exactly what that is. And
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what right, like, if you have that kind of we
are not getting it done right now, we are you know,
dragging our rear ends. We've got to pick it up.
And Garrett Wilson is also an extremely competitive guy, and
so that's just a little bit of that, right Like
it's it's just two super competitive guys being super competitive
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and having like a game day attitude on a Tuesday
afternoon in training camp. And I mean that's a positive,
it's not a negative. Like I love when guys are
chirping at each other and you see that level of competition.
Competition is a good thing. But raise that during training
camp and then have that on day one and the
fact that those two guys are driving each other and
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that Aaron Rodgers is you know, in the ear of
a top ten wide receiver that way, and then a
top ten wide receiver feels comfortable enough to go back
at him a little bit and there's a give and take.
Great you know, I again, I don't think there's like that.
That will probably only grow the relationship between those.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Two rookie tackle ol lou FASHIONU what what are you
hearing about him? And when he starts it? Could it
be at right tackle?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
He could probably start at either. They love him. I
think they think he's a twelve year starter, but they're
not also blind to the fact that they've got two
players that are day one starters and won like a
walk in Hall of Favor in Tyron Smith. Right, So
you bring in up you know, and Morgan Moses. You
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bring it two veteran bookend tackles. But take a look
at Smith and take a look at Moses. The last
five or six years we'll get the last time and
either one of them got through an entire season healthy.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So there, to me, that was a very educated pick.
We've got these two guys that can absolutely go out
and dominate a game for us still went healthy. But
let's be honest, they're both way closer to the end
of their careers than the part of the beginning. Is
either guy gonna play seventeen games either of them? Probably not,
so I think the shadow could end up starting seven
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or eight games between spelling both of them by the
time of the year's over and they realized that they knew
they needed a third guy. It's right in baseball, you
get a three these pitchers, you still by the time
one hundred and sixty two games is done. No, you're
never gonna have enough starting pitch. You just can't have
enough of it. I mean, when you get a forty
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year old quarterback, you can't have enough passer gestor. And
so that's why they traffed him. They also know there's
a chance they're gonna need him as a starter next year.
But thatually, I mean, these guys might be a one
year solution. And what better room to sit in if
you're Olavushano than to sit next to those two guys
in the film room, to be on their him during
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training camp, to watch them work, to learn from them,
to watch their technique. I mean a Clarren Smith is
the first ballot Hall of Famer, and how you get
to pick his brain every day? That that's what we use.
Like Jordan Travis from Florida State has to get him
now in the fourth round, the third round or whatever.
And like he gets to sit in a room with
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Aaron Rodgers every day. Brilliant. What better way to train
young quarterback to training tackle focks.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Bob was shoes him into his twenty third year calling
New York Jets football and the Vikings hooked the Jets
week five at Tottenham Hotspur.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
If you if you have any Xcel Energy games on
your schedule, look forward to it. I'll come up and
say hello and thank you very much for the time yept.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank you for reminding me that appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Thank you. That's uh, that's the fox Bob was shooes
him with the New York Football Jets. We had a
tricky phone connection there, to say the least, but hopefully
there were a couple of things Vikings heard in the equation.
He when when he said Aaron Rodgers left Green Bay,
he first called it a cocoon and then he basically
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said leaving Green Bay was leaving a jail cell.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I might punch him in the state.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So there's that. This is to noon nine thirty five
in the Neighborhood. The Neighborhood is FM one hundred point
three KFA and you're home from Minnesota Vikings football and
they're special teams into this year. It's it's extremely compelling.
It's just there are some intriguing facets, at least to me,
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that that are going to bear fruit during the course
of the season, and I think potentially catch people off guard.
You know, there's the Alabama rookie kicking already won the job.
What are they going to do on kickoffs? There's a
punter battle between one who passes and another who was
a college wide receiver and is incredibly athletic. And I
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love new and loathe the rots. Same with special teams
coordinator Matt Daniels. As you'll hear now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Cool eving to everybody. Good to be back.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
I always love a nice fresh smell of cut grass.
All season is underway, and you know, it's nothing better
than when you got you start to be able to
play real football and we put the paths on. It's
no longer just T shirts and shorts. I would say,
you know, our first padded practice that we had Monday
was probably one of, if not the most physical practices
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that we've had since I've been here. It's interesting because
we're working with these guardian caps and so you're not
you typically don't hear the cracking of the helmets and
the root true physicality of it. But when you cut
the tape on, there was a lot of violent hands.
There's a lot of block destruction going on, some great
blocks going on up front within the interior, defensive linement,
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the office of linement.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So it was really good to see.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
And that's really what this camp is really all about,
us building up that identity, you know, playing that tough, physical,
greedy football play style of what we're looking for, and
we're heading in the right direction. We had a little
bit of heat, which has been great for us. A
little human a little hot which requires a lot more communication,
requires a lot of guys to be a lot more
doubt and from a mental land physical standpoint, elite communication
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from a non verbal and verbal standpoint, and so it's
been great for the guys to kind of feel the
heat because it's really been tensing us in all aspects.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
That's communication what fatigue.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Fatigue comes into play when guys get tired, they get
they started to get lazy. When it starts starts coming
to the communication, are you really getting across to every
all eleven players are all on the same page. So
when guys get tired, you know, they're more focused on
breathing than they are actually true communicating. So with that,
you know, you got to find ways to communicate non verbally.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Hey, Matt, having several months to reflect on it and
then also prepare for it, how are you feeling about
the new kickoff of this show.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I'm feeling great about the new kickoff. I think it's
a great thing that the NFL is doing trying to
you know, really, I'm all for innovation and creativity. At
the end of the day, that's kind of what the
game needs. Not not to say that the old kickoff
kind of felt a little staunched, but it's good to
have have. You know, we're looking to try to introduce
a new kickoff rule where you know, we increase the
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amount of plays from a special team standpoint, decrease.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The amount of concussions take that does take place.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
How can we limit the high speed collisions that happen.
And you know, at the end of the day, it's
going to give a lot more opportunities to a lot
more guys. Maybe you might be able to put you know,
some more starters out there. Just because you're eliminating the
running phase of it, it's going to require a lot
more creativity, scheming, schematically, coaching is going to be heavily
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involved in it. And so with that, you know, it's
a challenge, but all of us should really embrace the
challenge because that's all a part of it, just our growth.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I have the players embrace the time.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
You know, it's an adjustment for sure, but they love
the idea of it, they love the creativity behind it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
They're really excited about it.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I think the biggest thing is just trying to figure
out what exactly is it going to look. Look like,
you have a good sense of it just kind of
looking at the XFL tape, but it's a lot different
when the kickoff team is starting from the forty versus
the thirty five in the XFL, just because of that
space and in that distance, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Much more it's much more different.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
And you know, you're talking about elite ball carriers in
our league. You know, having that space where the timing
of it is going to be a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Being able to defeat blocks is going to be a
premium in our league. And so with that, you know.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Guys are excited about it, excited about what this commands
that come with it, the personnel that you have to
provide for it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So with that, you know it's gonna be good. People
have talked about.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
A need for maybe tickering it early on. Is there
an aspect of it that you that you see, Could
you know a change happen or you desire a change
to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I think it's for it to all be on paper.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
At the moment, it all looks good in my eyes,
and you know, we'll see how the rules play out,
especially when you start talking about posting out penalties. Maybe
you might get an usborsement, like after a touchdown, how
is that going to be assessed? Maybe there's a rough
en the kicker after an extra point? You know, what
is that going to look like? Kicking off from the
twenty versus having to kick off from the fifty. Some
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of those things I think would be something that'll be interesting.
How we want to really set the rules when we
do get ready for the regular season.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
There was a stat about in the XFL the kicker
got involved kind of a lot on the tackles. What
is your feeling about how often if the kicker is
going to have to be kind of a defender there.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, for sure, that's that's a big one, you know,
And we did a study the kicker does does kind
of get heavily involved just because things are happening a
lot faster, just because of the ball blocker relationship that
does take place on the play, and so you know,
you have to find ways. There's a lot of different
ways schematically and how you can really deviate and really
kind of have the kicker stay out of it.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't want to kind of get into debt with that,
but they're always for.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
You to be able to kind of keep your kicker
out of the play. But in the XFL, they were
heavily involved, and it's a little scary, be honest.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
With you notice to be different among playing across teams
or do you think eventually it's just gonna take Do
you think the play itself is going to look noticeably.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Different across teams or do you think over time and
with this.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Kind of fronto.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
For sure, I think believe that within the first three weeks,
I think that this play is gonna win and lose
a lot of teams games because eventually you know, this
league does a great job of adapting and picking up
you know, schematics, really truly what's going on. And you
know that's really what make us kind of elite is,
you know, being able to adapt and pick up on things.
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But I do see it. I do see it being
a heavily impact. It is going to look a lot different,
especially for the fans. You know, the first couple of games,
it'll be an adjustment for sure. But once we kind
of get into the groove of things and everybody kind
of sees what's going on, what is everyone doing from
a kickoff standpoint? You know, what are the schimmatics from
a ko R standpoint? You know, people really starting to
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pick up on it. It might start kind of looks
same a little bit with a couple of tweets here
and there.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
What do you think of return wise right now as
far as who the returners would be?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And are you definitely two or do you think there'll
be times when you have one?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
It always it'll be dependent on really who are we
playing against, what are the tendancs are in terms of
kick direction?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
What type of bar are they kicking?
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Do we have a beat on where the ball is
actually being kicked. You know, if we don't, then maybe
we need to put two back there. You know, the
consensus around the league is that they're there, that it's
going to require two people to two returners back there,
just because kickers have the ability to place it wherever
they want to, whether it's a fastball, squid ball, a knuckleball,
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a high ball, and so you know, you really want
to the biggest thing is is getting the football back.
You know, that's that's the priority is getting the football back.
So you know, ideally you want to be able to
make sure you can assure that. So that might require
you to have two people back there.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Who are you thinking personnel wise here that fits that that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Yeah, you know, obviously we have can they you know,
Brandon Powell is an option. We have a couple of
other guys. I don't want to kind of get into
that too much, keV, but we have we have a
lot of elite ball carriers back there who who's well capable.
And you know the thing is is that because the
kickoff rule has changed, it's really also changed who you
want to put back there, just because the ability of
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from a schematic standpoint, what you're able to do with
those guys, and how fast really blocks actually occurred, the vision,
you know, the speed, your ability to set up returns,
and so with that, you know, there's certain characteristics that
you really like and you really really appreciate out of
some guys who you might not appreciate as much when
from the old kickoff roule.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
With making a decision at Kicker, Just what has impressed
you overall with with Will?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
And then how does it, I guess impact him to
be able to just focus on all the reps.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Now, yeah, you know, you know that was an unfortunate situation.
You know, we really really wanted to continue to see
John Parker Romao. I thought he was doing a great job,
and you know Will did too, because when he first
came in here, he understood to know what he was
up against, like to get to the job wasn't going
to just be given him because he was a draft pick.
He truly wanted to earn the right of his teammates,
the respective his teammates and.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
To win the job.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
And you know, we got to a point obviously whatever
some roster changes that need to happen, and as a result,
we kind of had to make that make that make
that move. But Will has done an unbelievable job since
he's gotten here. You all kind of got a good
look of what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And you know, he's steady, yeady.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
He's a guy that he's really maintains a good neutral
mindset and you truly never know when he's in a
good mood or when he's in a bad mood. You know,
he can go perfect on to day and he's still
just even killed. It's like, you know, that was a
good day. And he'll tell you like, you know, on
the scale of one to ten hours of five and
it's like, you went perfect and you know he had
every ball and went all the way back.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
To sixty and he's like, now that that wasn't good enough.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
And so he has expectations and he has high standards
for himself and that's really what you appreciate. And you
know we've gone to discussion now that now he is
our kicker on you know, what season goals look like
and what tramp go what training camp goals look like,
and you know, I have an idea of what he
looks like, and you know he's kind of telling me
like that's not good enough, you know, and you know,
(34:52):
I appreciate that. I really appreciate the edginess that he
has and you know, the mindset that he has, and
that's the reason why we drafted him because because of that,
that mindset that.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Which will with the new kickoff rule.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Are you working it all on technique just as far
as the potential difference.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
Is absolutely, you know, you look at there's so many
different situations that come up.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
In the game, at the end of game.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Situations, you know, do we want to put into play?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What type of ball do we hit?
Speaker 7 (35:20):
So we've been throwing out a lot of different, you know,
variations of kicks, you know, just kind of throw them
off guard, depending on what it is, directly hitting it
one way, you know, hitting hot balls, mixing it up.
So there's a lot of different variations kicks that we've
been working through just in case you know, there's you know,
any situation does occur and the head man it's like, hey,
I want this type of ball.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We need to make sure that we're well prepared for that.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Man, how do you handle in the preseason in terms
of trying to get reps on those things versus not
showing your hands.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah, that's always that's always an interesting thing. Then in
terms of what do you want to show in the preseason,
you know, obviously, the good thing about it is is
that now that we've shrunk the field in terms of
how much running is involved, we're able to work as
much as we need to in practice, and so it
might not be a need to actually show, you know,
(36:09):
what we're actually going to do when the season rolls
around from a preseason standpoint, So you know, maybe we
might show some things, maybe we might not. You know,
we're still kind of working through, you know, if we
really truly want to show our hand you know, before
week one.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Man, if you have any non kickers who have raised
their hands and so they're happy to kick it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
We we have a couple guys on the roster who
does have the ability to kick, and you know, we've
been kind of working through that. It's just you just
got to be a little careful and tread lightly with that,
just in terms of because these position players, you know,
they don't truly know like what a kicking warm up
looks like per se. You know, they might just finish
practice and thinking like all right, you know, I've been
running around all practice.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I can go. You know, my legs feel good. I
can go, you know, try to go hit a fifty
yard sixty yard kickoff. But you got to be a
little bit careful with that.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
They gotta understand though, like the grow wings, you know,
a lot of soft tissue injuries occur, so there's a
proper way to warm them up, and there's a proper
way to go about kind of doing that.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
So we just got to be.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Careful with who we put out there and make sure
we're working it the right way. Last thing we want
is for you know, running back the dang tears growing
because he's trying to work on kickoffs pop practice.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
You know, that'll get me fired.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Is that a serious thing that you're taking seriously or
just something that that people.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You know, if we can find a guy who can
consistently put it in play or put it in his
zone or put it within the land of zone, you know,
we'll definitely do that because it's an advantage, right, it's
an advantage.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Obviously they aren't allowed.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
To go beyond the fifty yards, attend the ball is called,
or hit the ground, but if you do add add
a guy in there who is unaccounted from achay R standpoint,
and he's a free hitter.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You want to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I'm gonna be talking.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
About at skill sets and attributes to change a little bit.
Here does does straight line speed become a little less
of a factor in your returners?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Because to a degree, to agree to a degree, it does. Yes,
But there's still enough spacing to where a guy is
able to work in edge the guy stacked and still
be able to use your speed to his advantage, especially
considering you know the personnel out there. Will it be
bigger guys out there who might not have great lateral
field or great lateral agility to be able to keep
(38:11):
up with some of these speed guys. So, you know,
there's a there's a little bit of a back and
forth in terms of you know, now, does it really
nullify a void guys who are big time speed players
or you know, lighter bodies out there. You know, it
kind of depends on schematically, how how you divvy it
up and you know where you where you place those
guys at. How does this.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Change scouting for you?
Speaker 9 (38:31):
Just looking at what you posting special teams units are
going to do for me too weak.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yeah, I think that's that's a good question. I personally
think that the personnel is is kind of stay somewhat
the same. It just might be you might have your
starting linebacker out there now, or you're starting safety not
necessarily at that safety position and may be more of
as a true penetrating guy. But I think that the
(38:56):
personnel is somewhat stayed the same right there, just in
terms of you you know, to get fifty three people
and you know, forty eight people dressed, and.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
So you got to utilize what you got.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
So I don't think it'll change much, but from a
scouting standpoint, you know, it'll be interesting. You definitely got
to be very, very attended to the detail and do
a great job of identifying, you know, certain guys where
they line up at you know, how are they truly
using this guy?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Are they trying to hide them as a safety and
kind of those aspects of the game.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
That's a couplet THEO Jackson has really carved out himself
a role in the defense and what if you see
from his development over the last couple of years since
you guys picked him up and then music.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Yeah, you know, Theo Jackson has done nothing, but he's
an ascended player in this league. And what you love
the most about I always talk about, you know, there's
two things when it comes to special teams players that
I really look at.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Its versatility and courage.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
And Theo Jackson has exact exactly those two attributes that
you look for. He's versatile, you can match him up
on safety, he's running backs, linebackers, receivers right, and so
with that ability, it gives you the access to do
any and everything with this guy.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Again, he's an incendive player.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
He's just a flat out football player, and that's what
you appreciate. He's smart, he's instinctive, he does you know,
if he does does anything incorrect, it's a one quick
fix and he doesn't make that same mistake again. And
you know, the biggest thing is he's inconsistent. He shows
up every day, he works hard. He's got unbelievable respect
from his teammates. He's attentive to the details. He's very
(40:25):
intentional about his work. Every single day he comes out
and he has a goal or of what he wants
to do and how he's going to go about doing it.
And you know, he's truly setting himself up to be
a true leader of this team and a valuable asset
for us.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
With one of the appeals and the change is being
increasing player safety. Have there been instances in your career,
either from players or coaches of them voice singing a
desire for the game to be safer.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's so funny.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
You know, myself, back when I was playing, you know,
I was a hard hitter, and you know, I look
at the game now on the sidelines and I'm like, dang,
this is a violent game that we're playing. Violent game,
and so you look at it, the guardian caps being added,
I think it's a huge bonus.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
You know, it doesn't you know this for the swag
of it.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
It's not a good look from a swag standpoint, but
it protects players, right, It protects players.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
And so I'm appreciative of that.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
I'm appreciative of them switching the kickoff rule to try
to reduce concussions and limit the ice speed collision that
does take place. And so the NFL, you know, obviously,
being with it being the most popular sport in the world,
you want to find ways to keep players healthy, right,
keep players healthy. That's that's the biggest goal at the
end of the day. And so you know, I'm really
appreciative of the rule changes that's taking place of really
(41:39):
trying to emphasize player safety.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
And you know, there are guys that.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Come to us with, you know, concern of how can
we make the game safe?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Appreciate all right, the con what kind of a fine
mess if you've gotten us into now with this kickoff
thing NFL the the a topic out of it. Okay,
And and you know I and we knew this by
hearing it and reading through it. But the way special
(42:08):
teams coordinator Matt Daniels laid out how the early stages
of the season he believes will go and and Matt,
you know Matts, Matt's very open with stuff like this,
and and when when he casts his gaze the way
to things like this, generally speaking, they happen. And he
said there are going to be games decided the first
(42:31):
few weeks of the NFL season because of the kickoff situation,
you know, which means it's it's it's just abundantly apparent
to me there are many of that variety who believe
we are sitting on a national football league record for
kick returns in a season, kick return touchdowns in a season.
(42:54):
But the a topic out of it. NFL coverage guys
started the four. It's the thirty five in the XFL,
and that fifteen feet means a lot when you can't
take off until the ball hits the ground, or the
ball is touched, or the ball is caught. So the
(43:15):
imagery is really all we have right now. We like
Matt said, you can look at XFL tape, but they
start from the thirty five, so they're closer to the
blockers and the returner. Well, the NFL, undoubtedly, in an
attempt to have more explosivity within the kick return game,
(43:37):
that they're going to have the coverage guys start at
the forty. So that five yards, that fifteen feet right there, Man,
that that matters a lot. I guess I didn't realize
how much it mattered until until hearing Matt yesterday.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yeah, the whole thing, the whole thing's going to continue
to look weird. I actually what keyed in about this
making a difference. I mean in players lining up, it's
going to look different. And the return team they line
up at the thirty five, so they got to stand
five yards away from each other, and then when the
ball is hit or caught in the quote unquote landing zone,
(44:11):
then it's then.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
It's you know, absolutely on time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So the but the biggest thing for me, I think
what a keyt on in that conversation is is not
even where they're lining up, et cetera. The point is
is that it's weird and different, and so the acclamation period.
Even they can take all these reps during practices and things,
but their end of things it making a difference in
(44:35):
games early in the season. He's talking about mistakes, he's
talking about human error. He's talking about opportunities where somebody
isn't thinking right, somebody's still again getting used to a
new process and teams being able to take advantage of it.
So the importance of our squad understanding the new rules
and all that what happens if it hits the ground
(44:58):
and then rolls into the end zone. What the touchback means?
I mean, you can have a touchback on the twenty,
the thirty, or the forty based on this new kickoff rule,
and so games being decided by it. That lends me
to believe that there's gonna be chaos that's what he's
talking about, that there will be chaos early on now
as we as we you know, you look at it
(45:19):
on paper. By the way, I'm reading the rules in
front of me, it's very difficult to visualize without the
accompaniment of an xl XFL video to go along with it.
I think that within the first four weeks, I'd say
within the first month, I think we're going to start
looking at this, especially if there are unique plays that
(45:39):
are generated out of it. You talk about forcing the
action and forcing returns, and then you're seeing those touchdowns
you're seeing. I think people ultimately, if that takes place,
they're going to love it. They're gonna hate it if
they're on the wrong side of one, but they're gonna
love it if they're on the right side of one.
And it takes a non play right you you know,
every day I mean colonoscopy aside.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
And.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'm sorry, your boom has rung hollow. Your boom has
rung hollow with all of the touchbacks. PA. So now
if they're forcing the action, the boom is back to life.
If they're forcing action and forcing returns, I think it's
a positive thing. And I think after a month of
(46:24):
the first time of getting to see this game by
game by game, the average person will easily pick up
the rules and all the nuances of it. I think
fans are gonna love it. I'm excited to see it
in motion in an NFL game, the catchers and receivers
can move around. Okay, So therefore we got a boom
and you got a returner who can time it and
(46:47):
run up on it.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
So he goes full speed. But the others with the
ones trying to catch him and trap him and hit
him and stop him, they're not full speed and he is.
They can't move until he touches it.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
So I mean you got Devin Hester, the new school
Devin Hester back there with Soljia boy playing and he's
bouncing around and everyone's going nuts, and the Corderoo Patterson's
of the world. You give Hey, what do you think
happens when you give Cordero Patterson ten yard run up?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (47:17):
In motion near full speed? Wow, right near that quote
unquote landing zone, slash preparing line. Whatever the heck it is,
It's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun.
It's new. It takes a effectively pointless play and brings
some life to.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
It, which teams will expose flaws in the system quickest
and here, and I'll bring this up with Ben Lever.
You know it's a no chancer or a minimal chancer.
Justin Jefferson would be amazing at this kick returning situation,
absolutely amazing because of his quick twitch slide and making
(47:54):
people miss. But like Matt said, I mean, you put
Justin Jefferson or somebody out there and we got a
problem on a kick and you lose this guy for
five games. That's how you get fired. Aggressive coordinators will
line drive trying to wreak havoc, and those of the
more conservative ILK will bang it out of the end zone.
Somebody who played a lot of special teams during his career,
(48:16):
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