November 12, 2025 • 39 mins
Common Man Hour 3 --Mark Rosen Joins --ANT or Chet? --MLB Sports Gambling --NFL Chatter --PA Spat
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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a couple of thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And fourteen pastime comm and he's tending to be the
legendary mark.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Rowsing with us now was established a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now they're sure it would be a million years before
you would trade Anthony Edwards for Victor Webbin Yama.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I have another trade proposal before. Oh, you got to
and there's a caveat with what I said. You sometimes
you not sometimes all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
There was no caveat. No, I'm saying, ask you say
anything about health. You just said idea no, no, no, no, no,
I did, I said. The reason I'd be hesitant about
Wemby's future. The only reason the guys is like, as
you said, he's a unicorn. He's going to be I'm
I don't know why. I'm just concerned about him. Well,
he said that not the very first time I think
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I did.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's right, but that's the first time you talked about
the position. Yeah, the position can do both. They are
both spectacular players.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And here's here's another one, sir, would you trade Anthony
Edwards or chet Holme?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, did you see homegrown last night? I did not
see Holmgroun last night. I saw his stat line and
hang on one second here.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It was nine for nine from the field, made both
of his three pointers, all of three three free throw attempts.
He had twenty three points and eleven rebounds. Talk about
a guy that he's seven to one, yet he plays
like a point guard.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Which kid is so talented.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He is just scratching the surface because speaking of injuries,
he's missed.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Almost more than he's played. He missed an entire season.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
He did. He had almost that that J. J. McCarthy's
situation where his rookie season he was out right the
whole year pretty much, and so he's kind of starting
from scratch. We watched him in high school. Gangly kid,
lots of skill. But you're thinking, well, he's gonna have
to kind of grow into his body to compete against
these men in the paint. But again, like so many
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of these guys that end up developing an overall game,
he's got the green light to go ahead and you know,
pop three pointers when he when he has the opportunity
and does so. He can block shots, he can do everything,
and he's turned out to be quite a fine for Oklahoma.
Eight games.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
He's averaging nineteen point six points eight point nine boards
per game. He's shooting fifty nine point three percent from
the field amazing, thirty seven point one percent from three
point range, eighty seven point eight percent from the free
throw line. Here's what he Here's here's what he said.
He said, I've learned how to get better Now I
know what I have to get better at. Before I
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was just working hard because I wanted to work hard,
and that's kind of just what I do, and I
love to play basketball every day. But going through a
long playoff stretch and winning the finals, really get the
best shot up to seven times in a row from
really good teams, and that teaches you what you have
to work on. So, like he says, you get the
best shot in those teams. They know your strengths and
your weaknesses, and then you know what you have to
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work on, sort of like what Ant has been doing
this offseason.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Work and you can tell you can tell that Ant
has worked on some things, and you know they might
be beaten up on the Oswald's right now. They got
a couple of games back at home. You know, they
don't play till a Friday night. I think that's against
that Sacramento again. Then they got Denver here on Saturday.
But they look more cohesive than they have. But I
get back to the Thunder. I mean they're eleven and one.
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I'm not exactly resting on their laurels. They get the
Lakers at home tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's a professional basketball team that takes their business seriously.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, they're the most talented team of the league, and
they care about each other, and they play ten deep,
as you've said, and they have a great system in place.
But they're not they're not taking nights off. You're right,
because they're they're getting, as they say, every team's best shot.
And we got to try to knock off the champs.
They only lost one and that was I think when
they had a twenty point lead and lost the game
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the Portland I think it was.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It says, would roller Coaster Rosie trade uh And for
Kobe Bryant in his prime?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah? I always love that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Okay, we just want to make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I would definitely, Yes, this one is the one.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm very curious what your answering. Would you trade Anthony
Edwards for Alex Tuck?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I almost did? That was pretty funny. Would you trade
I'd have to think about that. The one that got away,
the one that got where's Alex Tuck? Tenna?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, I think he's still a Buffalo, But Buffalo
you're getting.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
What they did?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Alex Tuck or Friar Tuck?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think Friar Tuck.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
When how did I fall in love with Alex Tuck? Yeah,
he's playing for the No, that's too bad.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Being of hockey. We lost last night.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Surahbelly what's his name again?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ten to be Macklin celebrini ce Celebration, Lebration.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He was pretty good his second time. He's been the
foreign in our side against San Jose. So we won
a couple of games and Tennaby the youngster the backup.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yesper Jesper was not in the game. It was not
it was Gus bust last night.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He didn't really have to do a whole lot, so
I guess ultimately, you know, he gave up two goals
in the second one was an overtime, but he didn't, uh,
he didn't have a lot on them that he was
challenging to make big saves on the game.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Dominant in the first couple of periods, and they just
had the Loan goal, which unfortunately didn't hold up, and
they ended up losing another overtime game a point. You know,
you know, it's just NHL system. It's hard to get
excited about that. To find the way to produce more
offense and shooing far between where they can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The thunderbeat Golden State last night in that game, and well,
there are a couple of things I saw some bad
teams from the First of all, Draymond said the lost
to OKAC, he doesn't feel the team is committed to winning.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Not a good sign, No, I mean, you just don't
hear the sas.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Not committed to winning. And then in addition to that,
there was a there was a quote from Jimmy Buckets
who said, I think that the fight's not always there,
we got a fight.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No matter what.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Most of that fighting I'm talking about is on the
defensive end. Not getting stops means you're not just playing
It means you're just not playing hard.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're just not doing whatever takes to win.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What's six weeks, eight weeks into the sea or eight
games into the season. Well, they're already talking about not
committed to winning and not playing hard on defense.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's it's well for the Wolves quote sometimes after games. Yeah,
I mean, I'm not saying as they haven't have nots
already in the Western the very very competitive Western Conference,
but it's clearly you know, okay, see and the rest
right now. San Antonio's after great start, Denver's afore great starts.
They're both eating to The Lakers are eight and three
without Lebron without Lebron, yeah, Houston's you know, right there,
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and the Wolves was seven and four. So I mean,
and then you got you know, the middling teams right
now with Phoenix, Golden State, Portland and Utah's okay, and
then the ones that are kind of bringing up the rear,
including the Dallas Mavericks who fired their general manager yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Wait, I wanted to ask you about that, and you
know fired deservedly.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So, but where's ownership in this thing? I mean, do
they just they signed off on it, right? I mean
because the general manager, I think, doesn't it general manager?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't know if they did well.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, well you have well they have to be aware
of the general manager makes any major decisions. Like there's
no way he just all of a sudden that the
owner of the team, whoever it was, all of a sudden,
was watching Sports Center and all of a sudden traded
Luca don.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'm sure there was a line of communication that was open,
but Nico sold the idea that getting an off injured
Anthony Davis and the return they got from the Lakers, well,
which wasn't much.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But what I guess what I'm saying is he you know,
he deservedly he got fired, right, but you know the
owner of the team might have wanted to step in
and going away, Nico, what are you thinking about your
explains to me?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Now. The one thing I will.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Say about this though, I think that Luca ought to
give Nico a call and thank him for motivating right,
because you remember what Nico said was he basically he's pudgying.
He doesn't play defense. Well, guess what, he ain't pudging anymore.
So he motivated Luca into getting and which I would
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think will make Luca better. And certainly he's had a
start to this. There was a note I saw a
staff something about it. It was, anytime you're compared to Wilt Chamberlain,
you're doing it so well. It was like the most
the best start in three games off is like forty
points in his first three games hasn't been done.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The only time I think it's ever been done was
we Will Chambers and he used to have it is
like fifty a game. Basically, Yeah, I still, I mean
everybody questioned it at the time, like what are you thinking?
And when you trade a guy, when you trade your
franchise player who's in the not even reached the peak
of his career yet, it's just it's a head scratcher,
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to say the least. There and they have to live
with the consequences now they had they didn't sell out
a game I think for the first time, and like
I don't know how many years the other night, so
the fans are rebelling, they are irritated. They're three and eight.
The MAVs are three and eight. They're bringing up the
rear in the Western Conference. And after watching that team,
you know, be a contender for the last I don't
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know how many years and whinningchampionship, it would have.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Been interesting to see if Kyrie had stayed That's probably
these guys are our camp stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
If Kyrie stayed healthy and.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Street close, because they would have been a formidable team.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't think they would have been as good, you know,
I mean that was there. They were thinking that that
was going to change everything.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There was number one because he was doing the defense
wins championships kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But we will never know, and so and I don't
think he'll ever be a GM again. I would. I
think it's a pretty safe guest.
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When it comes to sports, sports, sports is your whole life?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Just sports? Sure?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I like the action on the grid iron, or on
the court, or on the ice, or on the diamond,
but or on the links and I guess the pitch
whatever whichever your favorite is, or on the on the
on the oval.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Whatever your favorite sports are.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But the I like the off the field stuff and
the coaches annoyances and such like that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Dennis make sure good foddery.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Dennis Wazac is an NFL writer for the Associated Press.
He's covered the New York Jets as a beat writer
since two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
God bless him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He's also an editor on the AP's national Sports desk.
He's worked for AP since nineteen ninety six. So in
covering the Jets, here's the headline.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Of the stories.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Aaron Lendag's a defiant stance with reporters on discussing Jets
play injuries.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Did you see this story? This is so good?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I did not Dayline Floor and Part New Jersey Aaron
Glenn took an unconventionally defiant approach Tuesday to providing updates
on the New York Just injured players.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Then he got into it with reporters. The coach opened his.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
News conference when he normally would run through the players
being traded for injury. Same thing happens here with KOC
and all the other thirty coaches across the NFL, by
telling those in the pressu room they should instead ask
an ESPN reporter whose story Monday, according to his source,
star wide receiver Garrett Wilson will miss three or four
weeks with the sprain right knee. Glenn said, I'm gonna
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pass on talking about injuries since Rich, Oh, he's not there,
has all the answers Rich, He pointed at Rich's empty seat.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He was participated in.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
A Pro Football Hall of Fame selection meeting on Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, I want you ask Rich, he says, so you guys.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Can get all the injuries from Rich. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Glenn then went into a breakdown the Patriots, who the
Jets will face in New England on Thursday night. So
then they talked about you know, Wilson missed the first
two games of the NFL career than injury to the
same knee. Before returning the last Sunday, he had no
catches in a game for the first time when he
was hurting the third quarter after coming hard down on
his knee. Glenn said Monday morning that Wilson would have
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an MRI and the knee would be evaluated by doctors
and the Jets would know more about his chances of
playing after that. ESPN reported later that afternoon that Wilson
would be sidelined for about a month. At the end
of his eight minute session with the media, reporter will
circle back on Wilson and asked Glenn if the wide
receiver would be a candidate for the injured list.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The coach again insisted everyone should just ask rich.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And as as a press reporter responded to Glenn by
saying the media wanted to hear what the coach.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Had to say about Wilson's injury.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Here's what he said. You guys have been hearing it
from me.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But now since we're reporting stuff that I haven't said,
then maybe you should just ask him. You know, I'm
not gonna tell you. I don't want to waste my
time when it comes to that, when it comes to
who's starting, So Glenn irritated. That's something leaked and I
don't know if it's accurate enough.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's nothing more.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And that's that was a story from earlier today.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I've not or maybe maybe it was. Was it late light?
Wasn't the day today? Day's the twelfth.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, this was early evening yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So I've not heard anything since whether he's good, the
player in question is going to play or not.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But I just love that the coach is just he's annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
By the fact that after he's saying one thing about
a player, that will report a little while later reports
that he's probably.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Out for a month, right, And whether that's accurate or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, and this is where you know, the Jets are
two and seven, not going anywhere again, And this is
where cracks in the foundation. This is why I, you know,
one of the many reasons why I pick on that organization.
I think they're inept. But this is a sign of frustration.
And Aaron Glenn's been around a long time and I'm
sure when he reads that and some reporters is reporting it,
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he probably has good sources to say. Probably he probably
is off for three weeks. This is where I miss
and I don't know, somebody ran the bite before it,
and we just had Koc on again today and Koc
is kind of a modern day coach that we've all
kind of, you know, accepted. His answers are pretty slick,
and he knows how to turn a phrase. He knows
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how to say things without being inflammatory for the most part. God,
I miss Jerry Burns sometimes. I mean when when Bertie
Zimmer would be zimber would bristle at Chris Thomason mostly,
but he would bristle at some of the questions and
he just was not a big fan of the media
for the most part. Didn't like, you know, having to
deal with them. But Bersey said the bar so high, uh,
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you known, imagine Bernsy being asked about what what the
Vikings are going through right now with their coaching, why
aren't you running the ball more? You know, and then
people maybe going after Bob Schnelker, who was calling the
place offensive coordinator. He had that classic rant that he had,
But you don't you don't find many of those coaches
anymore that go off like that. Uh. There two kind
of buttons down in this world we live in, and
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that and the media attention is much more intense. The
glare is much more intense now than it ever was
back when Burnssey was coaching. Yeah. Well and players too.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know, it depends if they've had a bad day
and had a bad game, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And I remember I've told this story before.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I told you where this was back when I was
a CUB reporter at the Forest Lake Radio station. How
we get my Bikings media passes. Coolest thing ever. I
got to go to the Bikings locker room after the game.
And this is right after the game. I mean, they're
still just taking the tape off there, off off there
ends you have they have to don't taken the tape off,
and they're still in their uniforms, and you know, the
media is there.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You were there, everybody's there.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're sticking microphones and cameras and in these guys' faces.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So we're over by Tim Irwin, former Vikings Lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It became I think, is any a judge judge in Tennessee.
I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. So
he's over there and I mean he's just sweat.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I mean he's lining then, so ye, I mean he's
just went through three hours of blocking and the whole thing.
So and some I don't know, it was some cub
reporter or some TV guy, you know, a young kid.
You could tell he was younger than I was. He
looked like he wasn't more than twenty years while twenty
two years old. He's there with camera guy and they
asked him if they can ask it talk to him,
and he goes, yeah, sure. So he's taking off his
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stuff and they start the camera with the lights on.
The kid asked a question, I'm not making this and
I'm standing and I got my So it's just it's
just we're the only two media people that are The
TV guy from North Dakota, where the hell he was
from me?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And he asked a question. Everyone's taking his tape off
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All of a sudden, he looks up and he goes,
that's the stupidest question I've ever heard in my life.
And I'm not going to dignify it with an answer,
and he just kept taking the tape off, and.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The poor kid just all of a sudden stop cry.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
The light went off on the camera, the camera stopped rolled,
and we all just turned round and walked away. But
it was hilarious where he just basically said, that's the
stupidest I don't remember what the question was, but he
called it the stupidest question ever heard, and I won't
dignify it with an answer.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Irwin would Tim Carrett a lot, and you know, he
was on my show a couple of times. One time
in particulars again, this is live and fightings didn't have
a particularly good game and the offensive line didn't particularly
have a good game, and Irwin got beat on a
you know, Dexter Manley or someone beat him on a
quarterback sack. And I showed the play, and as soon
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as we went to a commercial break, he just like
lit into me. You had you had to show that
first Huh? You had you had to show that play?
I said, what was part of the game. I'm not
I wasn't necessarily picking. I wasn't the only thing that happened.
But yeah, man, he was not happy. But that's the
way I kind of rolled this. He was a very
good player. He cared a lot. He he really cared,
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like he would tell me once in a while. I
was leaving the on the road somewhere. He goes, you know,
I think you care him about about winning and losing
than half the half of my teammates. I said, well,
I don't know about that, but it's kind of an
interesting statement you made. He was. He was the judge,
all right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
An MLB gambling story broke just the other day, So
let's talk about that on the other side of the break.
We'll take a short break your last segment to go.
Pitch rigging scandal is what it is. We'll see what
Rose has to think about that. We'll do it on
the other side of the break. It's Common Man program
with common tenn Tobe and Mark Rosen.
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k Fan Associated Press story, Mark Rosen says MLB said
it's authorized gaming operators we Measory Baseball said it's authorized
gaming operators to cap bets on individual pitches at two
hundred dollars and exclude them from parlays, a day after
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two Cleveland Guardian players were indicted and accused of ringing
pitches at the behest of gamblers. MLB said the limits
were agreed to by sportbook operators representing more than ninety
eight percent of the US betty market. The league said
in a statement that pitch level bets on outcomes of
pitch velocity and balls and strikes present heightened integrity risks
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because they focus on one off events that can be
determined by a single player and can be inconsequential to
the out come of the game. League went on to
say the risk on these pitch level markets will be
significantly mitigated by this new action, target at the incentive
to engage in misconduct. The creation of a strict bet
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limit on this type of bet and the ban on
parlaying them reduces the payout for these markets and the
ability to circumvent.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The new limit.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Pictures of Manual Clays and Lewis Ortiz were indicted Sunday
and US Just Recording Brooklyn on charges they took bribes
from sports betters to throw certain types of pitches.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They were charged with wire fraud.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Conspiracy, honest services wire fraud, conspiracy, conspiracy to influence sporting
contests by bribery, and money laundry. In conspiracy, the Heman
says the two helped two unnamed gamblers in the Dominican
Republic win at.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Least four hundred and sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
On bets placed on the speed and outcome on certain pitches,
including some that landed and.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
The dirt that the players are denied. Yeah the attorneys
are saying that already, and they've been I think whether
or not they they're able to even play baseball this year,
there's so many elements. So this in the wake of
what happened with the NBA and and uh betting scandal
and the poker situation and everything else that's going on,
and it's going to force leagues to, I think, just
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abandon these prop bets. I mean that in itself, the
idea that these pitchers was a class A. I think
that's what I promise. I'm not sure, but I mean
they that's in that same article common This is Prosecutors
alleged Ortiz was paid a total listen to this, twelve
thousand dollars to intentionally throw a ball instead of a
strike in two Major League Baseball games, twelve thousand dollars,
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and class the allegedly received matching payments for his role
in helping to arrange Ortiz's rig pitches, winning at least
sixty thousand. How much money this guy's making, I mean
twelve thousand and sixty thousand, they make that in a game,
in an inning, And so you're thinking to yourself, well,
what what are they? What are they doing? And they
showed I saw some high lights and they showed a
couple of pitches, and you go, well, I threw the
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ball in the dirt, and it can happen at any time.
But this is really serious stuff when you start talking
about that and how they got involved in rigging pitches
with people that maybe they knew and the betters, would
you know they were making four hundred grand, as you mentioned,
they may have astonishing. They may have been getting a
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cut of that. Well, they may have. I mean, I
mean even then, I mean they just kind of go,
what's the upside of this? I mean, and obviously they
they here, they're not going to get caught.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, but twelve they said, hey, if you throw it,
throw on in the dirt and I'll give you twelve grand.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You go, okay, why don't they work with the Twins
pitchers because they're throwing balls in the dirt all the time.
I don't think they had to be. I don't think
anybody approached Louis.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Varlin when he was here and said, I mean, I'm
not trying to excuse it. To me, it's just money's money.
People are well, again, the more money, it's when it's
easy money.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's the same thing that happened in the NBA. You
can get when you say you.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Throw one ball into the dirt, twelve grand you go,
I'll take it?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Why not sure? And what the end?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
What we'll be saying is like, that's not like throwing
a game. It can be rather inconsequential. If you throw
one ball in the dirt, it's ball one. Then if
you strike the guy out, what's the difference. I'm not
you know, I'm not saying that makes it okay, But
I think major League Baseball is even saying, you know,
it's just it's easier to I guess they figure it's
(24:23):
it's it's easier to police this because it's a one
it's a one off pitch.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's not really you know, it's not like a bunch
of yeah right, they're in then on it. Yeah. The
betters would wager speed and type of class as pitches
based on the information they received in advance, sometimes even
during games. That's the one thing. What are the in
between games are getting on their phone, going going to
the locker and texting them saying, Okay, next inning, I'm
gonna throw a couple of pitches in the dirt. Go
(24:50):
ahead and put you know, a couple of you know,
I guess that's what they do. Man, It's it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Well and we're in we're scene, you know, they're there have.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Been all sorts of the Rosie thing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Like I said in the NFL, well exactly, we're just
coming off the NWN racing. You have points of shaving
and telling people you're only going to play this long.
So the over and under how many points you score,
And you wonder even how much more widespread it is
not just in Major League Baseball, in the NBA, but
in all sports.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well, the temptation that we're talking about high paid pro athletes,
you're thinking the temptation of college athletes and what's out
there right now with the exposure. And again I've I've
talked about it as we what we were just watching.
I think Mayo was in the other rumor with you.
I always get confused watching Litenna. There's a betting show
(25:36):
right now in NBA on ESPN. Okay, the guy's laying
and he said, you know, take Texas plus six and
a half points this weekend in their game. I don't
even know where they're playing, And I'm thinking, you're you're
some college kid that's you know, that's sitting in your
dorm room and you're looking at this, you're watching this game,
and you're going, you know, I got got my phone,
I got I got access to a few hundred bucks whatever,
(25:56):
I'm going to take Texas plus six and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
This is.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And then you go, well, how important is it going
to be at some point where the quarterback is going
to get influenced and going you talk about nil money,
I got three hundred thousand in the bank waiting for
you if you're throwing it in, you know, the completion
or an interception here. You know, this stuff is opening
up a whole different world. And I never imagine that
the leagues would be in bed with the gambling sites
(26:21):
and everything that's going on. And now they're kind of
caught going, what are we going to do? Well, they're
trying to put their finger in the dike over here
to say we're not going to allow prop bets anymore,
or you know, parlay bets on this and this and this,
and the meantime it's just you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You talk about quarterbacks and how much they could influence
a bet easily. I mean you could if you could
go to a quarterback and say, you know, he intentionally
has a bad game.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You can overthrow balls, throw balls in.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The dirt, get sacked just throwing completion, throw interceptions in
Unless you look at it with a microscore, you wouldn't know.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I just say, get out a bad date, a bad game,
and it happens.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, So that's that's just again. I want a kind
of a stunning series of events between the NBA and
then this story that the betting scandal now in Major
League Baseball with these two pitchers on the same team,
and one of them I think class it wasn't a
cy young candidate. I mean he was arguably when.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He told me he's got a twenty million dollars, he
had a twenty million dollars contract. So yeah, you're right
when you think about twelve thousand dollars, it certainly wouldn't seem.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You don't want to risk that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't don't understand just a matter of time before
this is going to happen, and this is probably even
more widespread than we even know. Right, we don't know
it in this date because we can't do a lot
of this butt like in Illinois, like you can live
bet what's this golfer going to do on his next shot?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Like a golfer cod easy to take a shot, right,
I mean sure.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
From say Tennebe is going to slice this into the woods.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That would be like minus twelve hundred, so that you
wouldn't get great hots on that not a good idea, Yes,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It sounds like Rosie you're blaming NFL spread swing for
participating a problem of gambling.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I am as all the young kids. I'm doing my
part by being in last place right now. So don't
listen to me. Uh used to be deuced now it's
me so uh, that's that's for fun. We're not. We're not.
We have nothing at risk other than the fact that
I have the bet with ten about Denver beating the
And I think I'm going to say this right now
(28:16):
and we'll do Spress Spring tomorrow. I think Kansas City
you'll beat the Broncos this week. And yeah, I even
like it's a game. And I think the game is
in Denver too. I don't know, I don't I'm not
impressed with the Broncos right now. But you want to
get out of our bet? No, no, no, I don't
want to get out of it because I just don't
I don't do it. Do you think Philadelphia is going
to beat Detroit? I do? Are you going to be? Oh,
(28:39):
we have another one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of our big bets bets confident.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I am in the kiddies, I know you are, so
that you have a right to be four six bucks?
What six bucks? Man? You're digging deep? No points, none
of that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, just straight up, the kiddies, you probably good points.
I don't want Detroit.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I don't need though it's in Philly. I don't need
two and a half or something there. I don't need points.
Picking straight out. I mean, it's been more impressive overall.
Philly just wins games.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They just you know, they have the poise they have,
you know, they're even the other night, the game against
Green Bay, it's just like you just kind of feel
they're going to come up with a big play.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I may figure it out, you know me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love defensive battles, but even even I was getting
a little tired of that game after that was a
little I mean the defense, I think some of was
was was was inadequate offense as well, but a lot
of it was defense.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Man, those teams not a good night for the floor
and Jordan Love either, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Well, I saw a story and I didn't read it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I just saw the headline. You know, it's little Floor
on the hot seat. I saw. Would he be on
the on the hot seat? Why?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I mean, if he's on the hot like the first
couple of years, like one of the winningest coaches in.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The history, I don't I don't understand. How again is
that you know, some writer coming up with this going
against the wall? I mean I don't know. Yes, that
happen a lot. I've done it.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, everybody does it in the media, to throw
something against the well.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So many teams. We're concentrating so much here because of
what's going on with the young quarterback and how KOs
is calling the game. And that's fine, it's all, you know,
it's open season on that sort of thing. That's all
fans get involved in the game. But the idea that
management somehow is going to respond to it, I mean,
there's there's so many coaches they get fired for any
number of reasons, mostly for losing. We already watched, you know,
(30:22):
the Giants lose, you know, fire their head coach already
after losing to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Left that team is what you would like to call
a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I like to call him a hot mess. Yeah,
but uh, you know they lost, you know, their quarterback.
And I think I think where's Winston playing? Is he
starting this week? James Winston Giants? He started for the
Giants for the New York Football Giants. Yeah, that guy
keeps finding No, he finds another life, and good for him.
I like watching him. He's he's he's a fun player
(30:49):
to one like him. I don't mind Jameis Winston. I
mean he's a little bit better than should the Vikings
trade for him and start? I know, what, did you.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You like?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The Bikings against the Bears this week would be mine?
I mean yeah, not. I mean, I'm not like head
over heels over it. I mean, the Bear has been
playing pretty well. Again, it's not their fault. They haven't
played it even be the team with a winning record.
It's not that they got a last play schedule. That's
what they that's what they play. Now it's gonna get
a little different. And yeah, I mean I think I
want to believe that what the Vikings did in Detroit
(31:20):
and playing so well against the Lions and putting the
pressure on Golf and and stopping the Lions running game
and doing all the things and McCarthy, you know, after
especially after Detroit scored that opening touchdown and McCarthy moving
the team down the field. You know, these are crucial
games right now. The Vikings have two more divisional games
the next two weeks, Bears here and then they go
(31:40):
to green Bay. You got to win both those. You
gotta win all your divisional games. They go to Seattle
the following week. I don't they will not not only
not be favored. That's that's probably that's probably a loss.
I don't. I don't. I don't see them winning that
game against old Samy Darnold. And then they got Washington here. No, no, no,
But they have a schedule now that's a little bit
(32:00):
more favorable on paper, you know, Washington here at Dallas
at the Giants. Then they played Detroit here on Christmas Day.
You like this club? No, I mean, I know, I'm
just saying that there. If you want to project a team,
you know, fighting for a playoff spot in December, you know,
I don't look at them as much more. I mean,
I think if they're close to five hundred you know,
and we'll see how the rest of the league kind
(32:22):
of works itself out here with you know, there's a
lot of good teams in the West, as we've seen.
I mean, you get the Rams, San Francisco, and Seattle.
Are all three of those teams going to make it
this year? I mean, that's pretty hard to say that
they're not.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
One division winner and two wildcard teams. That doesn't leave
you with a lot. So I mean, they have to
take care of business, that's all I mean. I I've
resigned myself to think that you know, what you see
is what you get right now, that the objective for
the rest of the season is obviously to play at
a high level defensively, but to see what McCarthy can do. Now,
he's got a bandage on his right hand, something not
(33:00):
to be worried about until he sales at first pass
to Justin Jefferson on Sunday and people go, oh boy,
it's his hand is hurting. You know, he's for whatever reason,
he just has not connected with JJ. I don't know
if it's just if he's feeling the pressure that that
you know that inherent with uh, you know, having the
number one receiver arguably in the game, and that koc
is talking about it all the time. But he's always
(33:22):
seemed more comfortable throw the ball to Addison and or
Speedy as they like to call him, Jalen Naylor. He
just hasn't gotten into a rhythm. Well, he threw a
beautiful ball right away the first part of the game
on Sunday, But I would I would throw some safe
patterns to Jefferson just to kind of get it, get
those guys into a rhythm. Throw it eight yard outs
or whatever. Just don't have to go for the home run.
(33:43):
Bosive coordinator. I'm trying to be listening to me though.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Ye are we even sure they should be playing McCarthy
because he's not one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Well, he should only be playing off he's a percent. Wow,
I think he's I don't know. I mean that's what
that was there. Did he have a swell swelling in
his hand? What was Yeah, take a bandage on his hand. Yeah,
they downplayed it, but they downplayed it now until after
the game. Then we'll hear that he could barely squeeze them,
(34:13):
you know, rubber ball or whatever to kind of get
his hand going. Max Brosber was warming up in the bullpen.
What if he's brilliant Sunday JJ.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
No, if ro starts and is brilliant, He's not going
to start unless he has a huge setback.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But that would be fun. I mean, fans, you know,
we always like to root for the backup quarterback. It's
just the nature of the NFL almost almost, you know,
going back to Josh Dobbs playing here, always to back up.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It says, enough of the quack quack Rosie. What's the
update on you? N PA's Twitter beef beef? There's literally
what's going on. There's literally no beef. I don't know
what these guys are talking about. There was a beef
zero beef. You quit, you quit.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Trying to stir the I'm just I literally was talking
for the for the last time. I'll just say this.
PA was talking about young quarterbacks, uh, first four starts
in their in their careers, and he mentioned a whole
bunch of them. Uh and he and again this is
a whole different are This is sixty years ago with
fran Tarkinen and he said in France, first four starts,
(35:22):
he had, you know, these minuscule numbers, which is true.
But I said, I don't think you can say that
without throwing in the fact that fran Tarkanen came off
the bench in the first game of this franchise's history
and through me, they weren't throwing the ball very much
back then, through four touchdown passes, no interceptions in one
of the biggest upsets in the NFL history at that
(35:42):
time in NFL history. Absolutely, the Bears were probably I
don't know, at that time, the Bears were a monster.
The Vikings were an expansion team that threw a bunch
of guys off the street on the game into the
game and in the uniform of North Van Brocklin. Well, yeah,
I probably was there. I mean, I don't know what
that was. If they had been, there have been point spreads.
(36:02):
I'm sure there were, But I mean they would have
been twenty four to twenty seven point underdogs in that
game against the Bears. They were the monsters of the Midway.
So against top of ri did coming off so much
point what Carthy did against the Bears in the very
first game of the season, Well McCarthy started that game,
Oh he did. George Shaw started the game. That was
my point. So PA excluded that. I just said look,
(36:23):
if you're going to throw that, throw that in there,
you got to acknowledge the fact that Tarking and came
off the bench and did what he did. And then
they the Vikings were a horrible expansion team. They won
three games that year. They got blown out Tarkting. It
was not good for a long time. But the first
game was so I mean, if you're going to talk
about that stuff, so there's no beef. I just pointing
something out. Did he come back at you? He didn't
(36:44):
come back at me. He just pointed something out about
the stats. I went, yeah, you're right. They from a
starting standpoint, Fran wasn't very good, but the team wasn't
good A great okay, yeah better than you? Yeah, well,
I mean that would be too. I'm just kidding. No, Yeah,
we got all fine. I don't. I mean, I don't
see Pa all that often. It seemed during jump in
(37:06):
the broadcast booth on Sundays, and I watched him operate
and then I do my little post game thing with
must and yeah, he's he's it's a national treasure.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He is a treasure. Any questions, No, there's no beef.
All right, God, because trying to stir up the controversy. Well, I.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Public on Twitter. It was it a beef. I was
just pointing out something about Fran and and just a
caveat to say Fran was awful in his first four starts,
but let's keep in mind he threw four touchdown passes
in his first game coming off the bench. Why are
we glossing over?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Warren said about Pa moving on to be the Chicago.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
That I have no idea. But I had no comment
about that because I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
About you glossing over your beef with.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The Jets, glossing over lots of beef. Yeah, you got
lots of be eve with a lot of people. I
don't have a beef with them. I just sit there,
a dysfunctional organization, awful.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I had another music saves him, and then one more
thing about the job.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And that I got the inside scoop on that. Yeahret's
swinging tomorrow one thirty. Yeah I don't. Yeah, you made
brother a doucecream meal participate tomorrow, I think, so okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
He's now going to work really early because he's running
before work instead of afterward.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Because it's too dark when he gets home. It is dark.
So oh he was just he's getting up. He's leaving
the house.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
At like six am to get to work seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Where does he get that work ethic from? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Hey, no, but I got to beat with my work ethic.
He's got to beef with everybody. We'll see him out
one thirty Tammy. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Hey, great job, are you as well? We enjoyed a
visit with you.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Today, and uh, we'll talk to himorrow on twelve moons
Stick around a big ticket.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
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a couple of thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And fourteen pastime comm and he's tending to be the
legendary mark.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Rowsing with us now was established a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now they're sure it would be a million years before
you would trade Anthony Edwards for Victor Webbin Yama.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I have another trade proposal before. Oh, you got to
and there's a caveat with what I said. You sometimes
you not sometimes all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
There was no caveat. No, I'm saying, ask you say
anything about health. You just said idea no, no, no, no, no,
I did, I said. The reason I'd be hesitant about
Wemby's future. The only reason the guys is like, as
you said, he's a unicorn. He's going to be I'm
I don't know why. I'm just concerned about him. Well,
he said that not the very first time I think
(01:10):
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's right, but that's the first time you talked about
the position. Yeah, the position can do both. They are
both spectacular players.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And here's here's another one, sir, would you trade Anthony
Edwards or chet Holme?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, did you see homegrown last night? I did not
see Holmgroun last night. I saw his stat line and
hang on one second here.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It was nine for nine from the field, made both
of his three pointers, all of three three free throw attempts.
He had twenty three points and eleven rebounds. Talk about
a guy that he's seven to one, yet he plays
like a point guard.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Which kid is so talented.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He is just scratching the surface because speaking of injuries,
he's missed.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Almost more than he's played. He missed an entire season.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
He did. He had almost that that J. J. McCarthy's
situation where his rookie season he was out right the
whole year pretty much, and so he's kind of starting
from scratch. We watched him in high school. Gangly kid,
lots of skill. But you're thinking, well, he's gonna have
to kind of grow into his body to compete against
these men in the paint. But again, like so many
(02:17):
of these guys that end up developing an overall game,
he's got the green light to go ahead and you know,
pop three pointers when he when he has the opportunity
and does so. He can block shots, he can do everything,
and he's turned out to be quite a fine for Oklahoma.
Eight games.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
He's averaging nineteen point six points eight point nine boards
per game. He's shooting fifty nine point three percent from
the field amazing, thirty seven point one percent from three
point range, eighty seven point eight percent from the free
throw line. Here's what he Here's here's what he said.
He said, I've learned how to get better Now I
know what I have to get better at. Before I
(02:54):
was just working hard because I wanted to work hard,
and that's kind of just what I do, and I
love to play basketball every day. But going through a
long playoff stretch and winning the finals, really get the
best shot up to seven times in a row from
really good teams, and that teaches you what you have
to work on. So, like he says, you get the
best shot in those teams. They know your strengths and
your weaknesses, and then you know what you have to
(03:16):
work on, sort of like what Ant has been doing
this offseason.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Work and you can tell you can tell that Ant
has worked on some things, and you know they might
be beaten up on the Oswald's right now. They got
a couple of games back at home. You know, they
don't play till a Friday night. I think that's against
that Sacramento again. Then they got Denver here on Saturday.
But they look more cohesive than they have. But I
get back to the Thunder. I mean they're eleven and one.
(03:40):
I'm not exactly resting on their laurels. They get the
Lakers at home tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's a professional basketball team that takes their business seriously.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, they're the most talented team of the league, and
they care about each other, and they play ten deep,
as you've said, and they have a great system in place.
But they're not they're not taking nights off. You're right,
because they're they're getting, as they say, every team's best shot.
And we got to try to knock off the champs.
They only lost one and that was I think when
they had a twenty point lead and lost the game
(04:08):
the Portland I think it was.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It says, would roller Coaster Rosie trade uh And for
Kobe Bryant in his prime?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah? I always love that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Okay, we just want to make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I would definitely, Yes, this one is the one.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm very curious what your answering. Would you trade Anthony
Edwards for Alex Tuck?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I almost did? That was pretty funny. Would you trade
I'd have to think about that. The one that got away,
the one that got where's Alex Tuck? Tenna?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, I think he's still a Buffalo, But Buffalo
you're getting.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
What they did?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Alex Tuck or Friar Tuck?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think Friar Tuck.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
When how did I fall in love with Alex Tuck? Yeah,
he's playing for the No, that's too bad.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Being of hockey. We lost last night.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Surahbelly what's his name again?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ten to be Macklin celebrini ce Celebration, Lebration.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He was pretty good his second time. He's been the
foreign in our side against San Jose. So we won
a couple of games and Tennaby the youngster the backup.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yesper Jesper was not in the game. It was not
it was Gus bust last night.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He didn't really have to do a whole lot, so
I guess ultimately, you know, he gave up two goals
in the second one was an overtime, but he didn't, uh,
he didn't have a lot on them that he was
challenging to make big saves on the game.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Dominant in the first couple of periods, and they just
had the Loan goal, which unfortunately didn't hold up, and
they ended up losing another overtime game a point. You know,
you know, it's just NHL system. It's hard to get
excited about that. To find the way to produce more
offense and shooing far between where they can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The thunderbeat Golden State last night in that game, and well,
there are a couple of things I saw some bad
teams from the First of all, Draymond said the lost
to OKAC, he doesn't feel the team is committed to winning.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Not a good sign, No, I mean, you just don't
hear the sas.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Not committed to winning. And then in addition to that,
there was a there was a quote from Jimmy Buckets
who said, I think that the fight's not always there,
we got a fight.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No matter what.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Most of that fighting I'm talking about is on the
defensive end. Not getting stops means you're not just playing
It means you're just not playing hard.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're just not doing whatever takes to win.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What's six weeks, eight weeks into the sea or eight
games into the season. Well, they're already talking about not
committed to winning and not playing hard on defense.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's it's well for the Wolves quote sometimes after games. Yeah,
I mean, I'm not saying as they haven't have nots
already in the Western the very very competitive Western Conference,
but it's clearly you know, okay, see and the rest
right now. San Antonio's after great start, Denver's afore great starts.
They're both eating to The Lakers are eight and three
without Lebron without Lebron, yeah, Houston's you know, right there,
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and the Wolves was seven and four. So I mean,
and then you got you know, the middling teams right
now with Phoenix, Golden State, Portland and Utah's okay, and
then the ones that are kind of bringing up the rear,
including the Dallas Mavericks who fired their general manager yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Wait, I wanted to ask you about that, and you
know fired deservedly.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So, but where's ownership in this thing? I mean, do
they just they signed off on it, right? I mean
because the general manager, I think, doesn't it general manager?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't know if they did well.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, well you have well they have to be aware
of the general manager makes any major decisions. Like there's
no way he just all of a sudden that the
owner of the team, whoever it was, all of a sudden,
was watching Sports Center and all of a sudden traded
Luca don.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'm sure there was a line of communication that was open,
but Nico sold the idea that getting an off injured
Anthony Davis and the return they got from the Lakers, well,
which wasn't much.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But what I guess what I'm saying is he you know,
he deservedly he got fired, right, but you know the
owner of the team might have wanted to step in
and going away, Nico, what are you thinking about your
explains to me?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Now. The one thing I will.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Say about this though, I think that Luca ought to
give Nico a call and thank him for motivating right,
because you remember what Nico said was he basically he's pudgying.
He doesn't play defense. Well, guess what, he ain't pudging anymore.
So he motivated Luca into getting and which I would
(09:00):
think will make Luca better. And certainly he's had a
start to this. There was a note I saw a
staff something about it. It was, anytime you're compared to Wilt Chamberlain,
you're doing it so well. It was like the most
the best start in three games off is like forty
points in his first three games hasn't been done.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The only time I think it's ever been done was
we Will Chambers and he used to have it is
like fifty a game. Basically, Yeah, I still, I mean
everybody questioned it at the time, like what are you thinking?
And when you trade a guy, when you trade your
franchise player who's in the not even reached the peak
of his career yet, it's just it's a head scratcher,
(09:38):
to say the least. There and they have to live
with the consequences now they had they didn't sell out
a game I think for the first time, and like
I don't know how many years the other night, so
the fans are rebelling, they are irritated. They're three and eight.
The MAVs are three and eight. They're bringing up the
rear in the Western Conference. And after watching that team,
you know, be a contender for the last I don't
(09:59):
know how many years and whinningchampionship, it would have.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Been interesting to see if Kyrie had stayed That's probably
these guys are our camp stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
If Kyrie stayed healthy and.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Street close, because they would have been a formidable team.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't think they would have been as good, you know,
I mean that was there. They were thinking that that
was going to change everything.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There was number one because he was doing the defense
wins championships kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But we will never know, and so and I don't
think he'll ever be a GM again. I would. I
think it's a pretty safe guest.
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When it comes to sports, sports, sports is your whole life?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Just sports? Sure?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I like the action on the grid iron, or on
the court, or on the ice, or on the diamond,
but or on the links and I guess the pitch
whatever whichever your favorite is, or on the on the
on the oval.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Whatever your favorite sports are.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But the I like the off the field stuff and
the coaches annoyances and such like that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Dennis make sure good foddery.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Dennis Wazac is an NFL writer for the Associated Press.
He's covered the New York Jets as a beat writer
since two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
God bless him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He's also an editor on the AP's national Sports desk.
He's worked for AP since nineteen ninety six. So in
covering the Jets, here's the headline.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Of the stories.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Aaron Lendag's a defiant stance with reporters on discussing Jets
play injuries.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Did you see this story? This is so good?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I did not Dayline Floor and Part New Jersey Aaron
Glenn took an unconventionally defiant approach Tuesday to providing updates
on the New York Just injured players.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Then he got into it with reporters. The coach opened his.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
News conference when he normally would run through the players
being traded for injury. Same thing happens here with KOC
and all the other thirty coaches across the NFL, by
telling those in the pressu room they should instead ask
an ESPN reporter whose story Monday, according to his source,
star wide receiver Garrett Wilson will miss three or four
weeks with the sprain right knee. Glenn said, I'm gonna
(12:38):
pass on talking about injuries since Rich, Oh, he's not there,
has all the answers Rich, He pointed at Rich's empty seat.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He was participated in.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
A Pro Football Hall of Fame selection meeting on Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, I want you ask Rich, he says, so you guys.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Can get all the injuries from Rich. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Glenn then went into a breakdown the Patriots, who the
Jets will face in New England on Thursday night. So
then they talked about you know, Wilson missed the first
two games of the NFL career than injury to the
same knee. Before returning the last Sunday, he had no
catches in a game for the first time when he
was hurting the third quarter after coming hard down on
his knee. Glenn said Monday morning that Wilson would have
(13:20):
an MRI and the knee would be evaluated by doctors
and the Jets would know more about his chances of
playing after that. ESPN reported later that afternoon that Wilson
would be sidelined for about a month. At the end
of his eight minute session with the media, reporter will
circle back on Wilson and asked Glenn if the wide
receiver would be a candidate for the injured list.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The coach again insisted everyone should just ask rich.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And as as a press reporter responded to Glenn by
saying the media wanted to hear what the coach.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Had to say about Wilson's injury.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Here's what he said. You guys have been hearing it
from me.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But now since we're reporting stuff that I haven't said,
then maybe you should just ask him. You know, I'm
not gonna tell you. I don't want to waste my
time when it comes to that, when it comes to
who's starting, So Glenn irritated. That's something leaked and I
don't know if it's accurate enough.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's nothing more.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And that's that was a story from earlier today.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I've not or maybe maybe it was. Was it late light?
Wasn't the day today? Day's the twelfth.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, this was early evening yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So I've not heard anything since whether he's good, the
player in question is going to play or not.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But I just love that the coach is just he's annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
By the fact that after he's saying one thing about
a player, that will report a little while later reports
that he's probably.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Out for a month, right, And whether that's accurate or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, and this is where you know, the Jets are
two and seven, not going anywhere again, And this is
where cracks in the foundation. This is why I, you know,
one of the many reasons why I pick on that organization.
I think they're inept. But this is a sign of frustration.
And Aaron Glenn's been around a long time and I'm
sure when he reads that and some reporters is reporting it,
(14:56):
he probably has good sources to say. Probably he probably
is off for three weeks. This is where I miss
and I don't know, somebody ran the bite before it,
and we just had Koc on again today and Koc
is kind of a modern day coach that we've all
kind of, you know, accepted. His answers are pretty slick,
and he knows how to turn a phrase. He knows
(15:16):
how to say things without being inflammatory for the most part. God,
I miss Jerry Burns sometimes. I mean when when Bertie
Zimmer would be zimber would bristle at Chris Thomason mostly,
but he would bristle at some of the questions and
he just was not a big fan of the media
for the most part. Didn't like, you know, having to
deal with them. But Bersey said the bar so high, uh,
(15:40):
you known, imagine Bernsy being asked about what what the
Vikings are going through right now with their coaching, why
aren't you running the ball more? You know, and then
people maybe going after Bob Schnelker, who was calling the
place offensive coordinator. He had that classic rant that he had,
But you don't you don't find many of those coaches
anymore that go off like that. Uh. There two kind
of buttons down in this world we live in, and
(16:01):
that and the media attention is much more intense. The
glare is much more intense now than it ever was
back when Burnssey was coaching. Yeah. Well and players too.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know, it depends if they've had a bad day
and had a bad game, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And I remember I've told this story before.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I told you where this was back when I was
a CUB reporter at the Forest Lake Radio station. How
we get my Bikings media passes. Coolest thing ever. I
got to go to the Bikings locker room after the game.
And this is right after the game. I mean, they're
still just taking the tape off there, off off there
ends you have they have to don't taken the tape off,
and they're still in their uniforms, and you know, the
media is there.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You were there, everybody's there.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're sticking microphones and cameras and in these guys' faces.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So we're over by Tim Irwin, former Vikings Lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It became I think, is any a judge judge in Tennessee.
I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. So
he's over there and I mean he's just sweat.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I mean he's lining then, so ye, I mean he's
just went through three hours of blocking and the whole thing.
So and some I don't know, it was some cub
reporter or some TV guy, you know, a young kid.
You could tell he was younger than I was. He
looked like he wasn't more than twenty years while twenty
two years old. He's there with camera guy and they
asked him if they can ask it talk to him,
and he goes, yeah, sure. So he's taking off his
(17:11):
stuff and they start the camera with the lights on.
The kid asked a question, I'm not making this and
I'm standing and I got my So it's just it's
just we're the only two media people that are The
TV guy from North Dakota, where the hell he was
from me?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And he asked a question. Everyone's taking his tape off
sitting there.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All of a sudden, he looks up and he goes,
that's the stupidest question I've ever heard in my life.
And I'm not going to dignify it with an answer,
and he just kept taking the tape off, and.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The poor kid just all of a sudden stop cry.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
The light went off on the camera, the camera stopped rolled,
and we all just turned round and walked away. But
it was hilarious where he just basically said, that's the
stupidest I don't remember what the question was, but he
called it the stupidest question ever heard, and I won't
dignify it with an answer.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Irwin would Tim Carrett a lot, and you know, he
was on my show a couple of times. One time
in particulars again, this is live and fightings didn't have
a particularly good game and the offensive line didn't particularly
have a good game, and Irwin got beat on a
you know, Dexter Manley or someone beat him on a
quarterback sack. And I showed the play, and as soon
(18:13):
as we went to a commercial break, he just like
lit into me. You had you had to show that
first Huh? You had you had to show that play?
I said, what was part of the game. I'm not
I wasn't necessarily picking. I wasn't the only thing that happened.
But yeah, man, he was not happy. But that's the
way I kind of rolled this. He was a very
good player. He cared a lot. He he really cared,
(18:35):
like he would tell me once in a while. I
was leaving the on the road somewhere. He goes, you know,
I think you care him about about winning and losing
than half the half of my teammates. I said, well,
I don't know about that, but it's kind of an
interesting statement you made. He was. He was the judge,
all right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
An MLB gambling story broke just the other day, So
let's talk about that on the other side of the break.
We'll take a short break your last segment to go.
Pitch rigging scandal is what it is. We'll see what
Rose has to think about that. We'll do it on
the other side of the break. It's Common Man program
with common tenn Tobe and Mark Rosen.
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k Fan Associated Press story, Mark Rosen says MLB said
it's authorized gaming operators we Measory Baseball said it's authorized
gaming operators to cap bets on individual pitches at two
hundred dollars and exclude them from parlays, a day after
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two Cleveland Guardian players were indicted and accused of ringing
pitches at the behest of gamblers. MLB said the limits
were agreed to by sportbook operators representing more than ninety
eight percent of the US betty market. The league said
in a statement that pitch level bets on outcomes of
pitch velocity and balls and strikes present heightened integrity risks
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because they focus on one off events that can be
determined by a single player and can be inconsequential to
the out come of the game. League went on to
say the risk on these pitch level markets will be
significantly mitigated by this new action, target at the incentive
to engage in misconduct. The creation of a strict bet
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limit on this type of bet and the ban on
parlaying them reduces the payout for these markets and the
ability to circumvent.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The new limit.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Pictures of Manual Clays and Lewis Ortiz were indicted Sunday
and US Just Recording Brooklyn on charges they took bribes
from sports betters to throw certain types of pitches.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
They were charged with wire fraud.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Conspiracy, honest services wire fraud, conspiracy, conspiracy to influence sporting
contests by bribery, and money laundry. In conspiracy, the Heman
says the two helped two unnamed gamblers in the Dominican
Republic win at.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Least four hundred and sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
On bets placed on the speed and outcome on certain pitches,
including some that landed and.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
The dirt that the players are denied. Yeah the attorneys
are saying that already, and they've been I think whether
or not they they're able to even play baseball this year,
there's so many elements. So this in the wake of
what happened with the NBA and and uh betting scandal
and the poker situation and everything else that's going on,
and it's going to force leagues to, I think, just
(22:19):
abandon these prop bets. I mean that in itself, the
idea that these pitchers was a class A. I think
that's what I promise. I'm not sure, but I mean
they that's in that same article common This is Prosecutors
alleged Ortiz was paid a total listen to this, twelve
thousand dollars to intentionally throw a ball instead of a
strike in two Major League Baseball games, twelve thousand dollars,
(22:42):
and class the allegedly received matching payments for his role
in helping to arrange Ortiz's rig pitches, winning at least
sixty thousand. How much money this guy's making, I mean
twelve thousand and sixty thousand, they make that in a game,
in an inning, And so you're thinking to yourself, well,
what what are they? What are they doing? And they
showed I saw some high lights and they showed a
couple of pitches, and you go, well, I threw the
(23:02):
ball in the dirt, and it can happen at any time.
But this is really serious stuff when you start talking
about that and how they got involved in rigging pitches
with people that maybe they knew and the betters, would
you know they were making four hundred grand, as you mentioned,
they may have astonishing. They may have been getting a
(23:23):
cut of that. Well, they may have. I mean, I
mean even then, I mean they just kind of go,
what's the upside of this? I mean, and obviously they
they here, they're not going to get caught.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, but twelve they said, hey, if you throw it,
throw on in the dirt and I'll give you twelve grand.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You go, okay, why don't they work with the Twins
pitchers because they're throwing balls in the dirt all the time.
I don't think they had to be. I don't think
anybody approached Louis.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Varlin when he was here and said, I mean, I'm
not trying to excuse it. To me, it's just money's money.
People are well, again, the more money, it's when it's
easy money.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's the same thing that happened in the NBA. You
can get when you say you.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Throw one ball into the dirt, twelve grand you go,
I'll take it?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Why not sure? And what the end?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
What we'll be saying is like, that's not like throwing
a game. It can be rather inconsequential. If you throw
one ball in the dirt, it's ball one. Then if
you strike the guy out, what's the difference. I'm not
you know, I'm not saying that makes it okay, But
I think major League Baseball is even saying, you know,
it's just it's easier to I guess they figure it's
(24:23):
it's it's easier to police this because it's a one
it's a one off pitch.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's not really you know, it's not like a bunch
of yeah right, they're in then on it. Yeah. The
betters would wager speed and type of class as pitches
based on the information they received in advance, sometimes even
during games. That's the one thing. What are the in
between games are getting on their phone, going going to
the locker and texting them saying, Okay, next inning, I'm
gonna throw a couple of pitches in the dirt. Go
(24:50):
ahead and put you know, a couple of you know,
I guess that's what they do. Man, It's it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Well and we're in we're scene, you know, they're there have.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Been all sorts of the Rosie thing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Like I said in the NFL, well exactly, we're just
coming off the NWN racing. You have points of shaving
and telling people you're only going to play this long.
So the over and under how many points you score,
And you wonder even how much more widespread it is
not just in Major League Baseball, in the NBA, but
in all sports.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well, the temptation that we're talking about high paid pro athletes,
you're thinking the temptation of college athletes and what's out
there right now with the exposure. And again I've I've
talked about it as we what we were just watching.
I think Mayo was in the other rumor with you.
I always get confused watching Litenna. There's a betting show
(25:36):
right now in NBA on ESPN. Okay, the guy's laying
and he said, you know, take Texas plus six and
a half points this weekend in their game. I don't
even know where they're playing, And I'm thinking, you're you're
some college kid that's you know, that's sitting in your
dorm room and you're looking at this, you're watching this game,
and you're going, you know, I got got my phone,
I got I got access to a few hundred bucks whatever,
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I'm going to take Texas plus six and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
This is.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And then you go, well, how important is it going
to be at some point where the quarterback is going
to get influenced and going you talk about nil money,
I got three hundred thousand in the bank waiting for
you if you're throwing it in, you know, the completion
or an interception here. You know, this stuff is opening
up a whole different world. And I never imagine that
the leagues would be in bed with the gambling sites
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and everything that's going on. And now they're kind of
caught going, what are we going to do? Well, they're
trying to put their finger in the dike over here
to say we're not going to allow prop bets anymore,
or you know, parlay bets on this and this and this,
and the meantime it's just you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You talk about quarterbacks and how much they could influence
a bet easily. I mean you could if you could
go to a quarterback and say, you know, he intentionally
has a bad game.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You can overthrow balls, throw balls in.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The dirt, get sacked just throwing completion, throw interceptions in
Unless you look at it with a microscore, you wouldn't know.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I just say, get out a bad date, a bad game,
and it happens.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, So that's that's just again. I want a kind
of a stunning series of events between the NBA and
then this story that the betting scandal now in Major
League Baseball with these two pitchers on the same team,
and one of them I think class it wasn't a
cy young candidate. I mean he was arguably when.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He told me he's got a twenty million dollars, he
had a twenty million dollars contract. So yeah, you're right
when you think about twelve thousand dollars, it certainly wouldn't seem.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You don't want to risk that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't don't understand just a matter of time before
this is going to happen, and this is probably even
more widespread than we even know. Right, we don't know
it in this date because we can't do a lot
of this butt like in Illinois, like you can live
bet what's this golfer going to do on his next shot?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Like a golfer cod easy to take a shot, right,
I mean sure.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
From say Tennebe is going to slice this into the woods.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That would be like minus twelve hundred, so that you
wouldn't get great hots on that not a good idea, Yes,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It sounds like Rosie you're blaming NFL spread swing for
participating a problem of gambling.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I am as all the young kids. I'm doing my
part by being in last place right now. So don't
listen to me. Uh used to be deuced now it's
me so uh, that's that's for fun. We're not. We're not.
We have nothing at risk other than the fact that
I have the bet with ten about Denver beating the
And I think I'm going to say this right now
(28:16):
and we'll do Spress Spring tomorrow. I think Kansas City
you'll beat the Broncos this week. And yeah, I even
like it's a game. And I think the game is
in Denver too. I don't know, I don't I'm not
impressed with the Broncos right now. But you want to
get out of our bet? No, no, no, I don't
want to get out of it because I just don't
I don't do it. Do you think Philadelphia is going
to beat Detroit? I do? Are you going to be? Oh,
(28:39):
we have another one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of our big bets bets confident.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I am in the kiddies, I know you are, so
that you have a right to be four six bucks?
What six bucks? Man? You're digging deep? No points, none
of that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, just straight up, the kiddies, you probably good points.
I don't want Detroit.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I don't need though it's in Philly. I don't need
two and a half or something there. I don't need points.
Picking straight out. I mean, it's been more impressive overall.
Philly just wins games.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
They just you know, they have the poise they have,
you know, they're even the other night, the game against
Green Bay, it's just like you just kind of feel
they're going to come up with a big play.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I may figure it out, you know me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love defensive battles, but even even I was getting
a little tired of that game after that was a
little I mean the defense, I think some of was
was was was inadequate offense as well, but a lot
of it was defense.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Man, those teams not a good night for the floor
and Jordan Love either, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Well, I saw a story and I didn't read it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I just saw the headline. You know, it's little Floor
on the hot seat. I saw. Would he be on
the on the hot seat? Why?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I mean, if he's on the hot like the first
couple of years, like one of the winningest coaches in.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The history, I don't I don't understand. How again is
that you know, some writer coming up with this going
against the wall? I mean I don't know. Yes, that
happen a lot. I've done it.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, everybody does it in the media, to throw
something against the well.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So many teams. We're concentrating so much here because of
what's going on with the young quarterback and how KOs
is calling the game. And that's fine, it's all, you know,
it's open season on that sort of thing. That's all
fans get involved in the game. But the idea that
management somehow is going to respond to it, I mean,
there's there's so many coaches they get fired for any
number of reasons, mostly for losing. We already watched, you know,
(30:22):
the Giants lose, you know, fire their head coach already
after losing to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Left that team is what you would like to call
a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I like to call him a hot mess. Yeah,
but uh, you know they lost, you know, their quarterback.
And I think I think where's Winston playing? Is he
starting this week? James Winston Giants? He started for the
Giants for the New York Football Giants. Yeah, that guy
keeps finding No, he finds another life, and good for him.
I like watching him. He's he's he's a fun player
(30:49):
to one like him. I don't mind Jameis Winston. I
mean he's a little bit better than should the Vikings
trade for him and start? I know, what, did you.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You like?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The Bikings against the Bears this week would be mine?
I mean yeah, not. I mean, I'm not like head
over heels over it. I mean, the Bear has been
playing pretty well. Again, it's not their fault. They haven't
played it even be the team with a winning record.
It's not that they got a last play schedule. That's
what they that's what they play. Now it's gonna get
a little different. And yeah, I mean I think I
want to believe that what the Vikings did in Detroit
(31:20):
and playing so well against the Lions and putting the
pressure on Golf and and stopping the Lions running game
and doing all the things and McCarthy, you know, after
especially after Detroit scored that opening touchdown and McCarthy moving
the team down the field. You know, these are crucial
games right now. The Vikings have two more divisional games
the next two weeks, Bears here and then they go
(31:40):
to green Bay. You got to win both those. You
gotta win all your divisional games. They go to Seattle
the following week. I don't they will not not only
not be favored. That's that's probably that's probably a loss.
I don't. I don't. I don't see them winning that
game against old Samy Darnold. And then they got Washington here. No, no, no,
But they have a schedule now that's a little bit
(32:00):
more favorable on paper, you know, Washington here at Dallas
at the Giants. Then they played Detroit here on Christmas Day.
You like this club? No, I mean, I know, I'm
just saying that there. If you want to project a team,
you know, fighting for a playoff spot in December, you know,
I don't look at them as much more. I mean,
I think if they're close to five hundred you know,
and we'll see how the rest of the league kind
(32:22):
of works itself out here with you know, there's a
lot of good teams in the West, as we've seen.
I mean, you get the Rams, San Francisco, and Seattle.
Are all three of those teams going to make it
this year? I mean, that's pretty hard to say that
they're not.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
One division winner and two wildcard teams. That doesn't leave
you with a lot. So I mean, they have to
take care of business, that's all I mean. I I've
resigned myself to think that you know, what you see
is what you get right now, that the objective for
the rest of the season is obviously to play at
a high level defensively, but to see what McCarthy can do. Now,
he's got a bandage on his right hand, something not
(33:00):
to be worried about until he sales at first pass
to Justin Jefferson on Sunday and people go, oh boy,
it's his hand is hurting. You know, he's for whatever reason,
he just has not connected with JJ. I don't know
if it's just if he's feeling the pressure that that
you know that inherent with uh, you know, having the
number one receiver arguably in the game, and that koc
is talking about it all the time. But he's always
(33:22):
seemed more comfortable throw the ball to Addison and or
Speedy as they like to call him, Jalen Naylor. He
just hasn't gotten into a rhythm. Well, he threw a
beautiful ball right away the first part of the game
on Sunday, But I would I would throw some safe
patterns to Jefferson just to kind of get it, get
those guys into a rhythm. Throw it eight yard outs
or whatever. Just don't have to go for the home run.
(33:43):
Bosive coordinator. I'm trying to be listening to me though.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Ye are we even sure they should be playing McCarthy
because he's not one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Well, he should only be playing off he's a percent. Wow,
I think he's I don't know. I mean that's what
that was there. Did he have a swell swelling in
his hand? What was Yeah, take a bandage on his hand. Yeah,
they downplayed it, but they downplayed it now until after
the game. Then we'll hear that he could barely squeeze them,
(34:13):
you know, rubber ball or whatever to kind of get
his hand going. Max Brosber was warming up in the bullpen.
What if he's brilliant Sunday JJ.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
No, if ro starts and is brilliant, He's not going
to start unless he has a huge setback.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
But that would be fun. I mean, fans, you know,
we always like to root for the backup quarterback. It's
just the nature of the NFL almost almost, you know,
going back to Josh Dobbs playing here, always to back up.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It says, enough of the quack quack Rosie. What's the
update on you? N PA's Twitter beef beef? There's literally
what's going on. There's literally no beef. I don't know
what these guys are talking about. There was a beef
zero beef. You quit, you quit.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Trying to stir the I'm just I literally was talking
for the for the last time. I'll just say this.
PA was talking about young quarterbacks, uh, first four starts
in their in their careers, and he mentioned a whole
bunch of them. Uh and he and again this is
a whole different are This is sixty years ago with
fran Tarkinen and he said in France, first four starts,
(35:22):
he had, you know, these minuscule numbers, which is true.
But I said, I don't think you can say that
without throwing in the fact that fran Tarkanen came off
the bench in the first game of this franchise's history
and through me, they weren't throwing the ball very much
back then, through four touchdown passes, no interceptions in one
of the biggest upsets in the NFL history at that
(35:42):
time in NFL history. Absolutely, the Bears were probably I
don't know, at that time, the Bears were a monster.
The Vikings were an expansion team that threw a bunch
of guys off the street on the game into the
game and in the uniform of North Van Brocklin. Well, yeah,
I probably was there. I mean, I don't know what
that was. If they had been, there have been point spreads.
(36:02):
I'm sure there were, But I mean they would have
been twenty four to twenty seven point underdogs in that
game against the Bears. They were the monsters of the Midway.
So against top of ri did coming off so much
point what Carthy did against the Bears in the very
first game of the season, Well McCarthy started that game,
Oh he did. George Shaw started the game. That was
my point. So PA excluded that. I just said look,
(36:23):
if you're going to throw that, throw that in there,
you got to acknowledge the fact that Tarking and came
off the bench and did what he did. And then
they the Vikings were a horrible expansion team. They won
three games that year. They got blown out Tarkting. It
was not good for a long time. But the first
game was so I mean, if you're going to talk
about that stuff, so there's no beef. I just pointing
something out. Did he come back at you? He didn't
(36:44):
come back at me. He just pointed something out about
the stats. I went, yeah, you're right. They from a
starting standpoint, Fran wasn't very good, but the team wasn't
good A great okay, yeah better than you? Yeah, well,
I mean that would be too. I'm just kidding. No, Yeah,
we got all fine. I don't. I mean, I don't
see Pa all that often. It seemed during jump in
(37:06):
the broadcast booth on Sundays, and I watched him operate
and then I do my little post game thing with
must and yeah, he's he's it's a national treasure.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He is a treasure. Any questions, No, there's no beef.
All right, God, because trying to stir up the controversy. Well, I.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Public on Twitter. It was it a beef. I was
just pointing out something about Fran and and just a
caveat to say Fran was awful in his first four starts,
but let's keep in mind he threw four touchdown passes
in his first game coming off the bench. Why are
we glossing over?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Warren said about Pa moving on to be the Chicago.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
That I have no idea. But I had no comment
about that because I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
About you glossing over your beef with.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
The Jets, glossing over lots of beef. Yeah, you got
lots of be eve with a lot of people. I
don't have a beef with them. I just sit there,
a dysfunctional organization, awful.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I had another music saves him, and then one more
thing about the job.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And that I got the inside scoop on that. Yeahret's
swinging tomorrow one thirty. Yeah I don't. Yeah, you made
brother a doucecream meal participate tomorrow, I think, so okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
He's now going to work really early because he's running
before work instead of afterward.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Because it's too dark when he gets home. It is dark.
So oh he was just he's getting up. He's leaving
the house.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
At like six am to get to work seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Where does he get that work ethic from? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Hey, no, but I got to beat with my work ethic.
He's got to beef with everybody. We'll see him out
one thirty Tammy. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Hey, great job, are you as well? We enjoyed a
visit with you.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Today, and uh, we'll talk to himorrow on twelve moons
Stick around a big ticket.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
J G their next right here on the fan. Good
night folks, good night Mistless. Wherever you go, Jack check.
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