McCarthy's Future! Common Man Hour 1

Common Man Hour 1 --Wheel of Topics --Buckets Quote --Lavelle Column --McCarthy's Future

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Plan, so they aren't we can't approach, will fail.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's time for common.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Man, common man, common man, charge the housewives.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
That go and can what should where we play?

Speaker 5 (00:26):
That's nonsense object.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Today, man, It's time for common.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Why should anybody aspire to be a common man? An
average man? Do you realize what it means to be average?
That means you're the best of the lousiest and the
lousiest of the best. Now, if we demand more and
more for producing less and less while they have not,
nations encourage and inspire, and indeed require hard work and
maximum effort. If we deify the common man while they

(00:58):
encourage and reward the un common ones, well, the end
result of such a lopsided race as that is too
obvious to require elaboration.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean it's like, hello, obvious in your mirror may
be closer than they appear. Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
For those of you from out of town, you know
that was a joke. A Joke's a joke, Yeah, Rosie lucky,

(02:00):
very funny, very funny. We got a moron here.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You are the ambassador common man.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And I thought Joe was way outline, just throwing that.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Out there and listening to Cooley, he's wearing women's underwear.
Part of your tournament.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, baby, We're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and
Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
We're gonna California and Texas and New York.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're going to South Dakota and Oregon.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
In Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington,
d C.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
To take back in the White House.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
You know, I didn't like the way we were playing
the sack, so I just told, hey, you're gonna living
down with me.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Don't nobody like it.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Sit chass down right here, don't come out here.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
But we're coming through me.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's why I like sham to come in.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, I let them do their things.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
The three quarter from fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Bring it to the team, Ladies and gentlemen, we're seeing
what a sophisticated offensive.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Beame plan looks like.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
You talk about, Well.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
To young man, he's the clown from Brown, He's the
fourth in the North.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
This is the common man, Dan.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Cole, and it's time for an action pack face, fast paced,
controversial common man program. I'm sure there are so many
topics to get to. Today, the soon to be Big
Game World champion Minnesota Vikings try to get back to
five hundred, and they try to return to the thrilling
days of yesteryear and beat their North Division rival Chicago

(03:43):
for the second time this season.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
You'll hear that game on.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
This radio station on Sunday coverage at ten, kickoff at
twelve noon. Wild lose a heartbreaker, Wolves back in action,
and the Minnesota Golden Gophers have their hands full of
the football team. On Friday night, we'll take on Oregon
all or Oregon, whatever you prefer. Where do we start?
Only the wheel of topic?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
No commons. Golf game and I hadn't even planned on
playing today. What'd you shoot today? Eighty one? Where'd you
hit it on one? We played at Loggers Trail? Where'd

(04:29):
you hit it on one? Right up the gun? How
far from the green?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I had a wedge in my hand. Second shot, it
came up just a bit short up you know number
one at Loggers. You know it's a pop up green,
So it wasn't down below, was up on the rough,
but just you know, like about a foot off the frint.
Then what well, then I'm I tested the green. And
let's just say the greens were a little lively this morning. Really, well,

(04:55):
it's been getting so cold at night that they're a
little they're starting to get hard now, starting to get
to that time of the year where it's hard to
hold the greens. But as the day goes by, as
the morning went by, they softened up on the back.
So that first one I hit a soft little pitch,
but it hitting and it was like a trampline, well
not quite like a trampoline, but it was like it
was like a tabletop in an Well.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Then I made the ten footer coming back.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
In the first five holes, I made U two two
twelve footers for par I mean, I was putting better
than ninety percent of the players on too it, but
I kind of let it get away late. But I I,
you know, for not having played since gosh, it's been
forever since I've played last last Friday, well that's for me,

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like forever.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I actually felt pretty good about the way I played today.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
So there were moments where you said, rust, yeah, I
mean it was fine. I mean I had you know,
I made the front, I made the turn at forty.
Then I three putted ten and what happened was it
was a middle right pan and I pulled my approach left,
so you know, it's kind of a horseshoe green. I
actually thought I was going to have to put it

(06:06):
over the fringe, but I pulled the putt a little bit.
Was a good thing I did, because it caught. It
didn't hit the fringe and it went up and again
I just didn't hit it hard and it ended up
being about fifteen feet short, and I missed the fifteen footer,
but yeah, and then I hit a couple of bad
shots on sixteen and it's that was the I made
one double today and it.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Was on sixteen, the par five.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So but I did make birdie on eighteen, a nice
little nine footer to make birdie on the final all day,
so all's well. That ends well and the round ended well.
We do have an action packed show today. The head
coach of the soon to be Big Game World champion
Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connor, will address the assembled media a
media twelve forty five today. Tennaby is that his scheduled

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start time. That's the rumor, Live from a TCO Performance
Center the New Winter Park. And now we're we've moved
Brian Oak now, and thanks for doing that. I know
that you had suggested it and you took care of
that as a good producer.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Would you've moved him to one thirty because.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It seems like the head coach is always doing twelve
forty five now? Well?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
So Oak was originally one thirty, Yes, and then the
head coach kept doing his press commerce at one fifteen
one twenty, So then we moved Oak to twelve thirty.
Now it's been three weeks in a row where the
head coach has been at twelve forty five, So I
don't know if this is a permanent move to one
thirty for Oak, or at least for today.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And then the legendary Mark rose And will join us
at at uh oh boy two o'clock, and then I'm
probably going to ask him again, would you trade Anthony
Edwards for Victor webin Yama. He hates when I ask
him that now because he had no idea how good
Wemban Yama really is.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
He had you know, he doesn't pay attention. Yeah, he's
never watched one Midia play.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, and he doesn't know anything really about him other
than he knows he's tall. He's tall, and his name
is Victor, and I don't even know he would pronounce
it wemban Yama. I wonder if he even knows how
to pronounce it. We'll ask him when he comes in.
I'll say, pronounce Victor's last name is if he can.
And at first was not in a million years all
of a sudden, like well, the only I'd be worried
about his injuries?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
So what for?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Not in a million years?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
To well, if I if you guaranteed stay healthy, I'll
make the trade today.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
A couple of other players. I wonder too, if Mark
Rosen would trade uh and for We'll ask him about
those as well. I did see tennebe.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I love. The basketball community tends to get annoyed with
you and I well, I think me for sure, and
a little bit with you because you're mister hockey guy.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah you know, and you always like to bring up
I feel like we're against each other.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, we're really not.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I just for me being the the the the
the ambassador or the president of the Tough Love Covenant,
I I just I I really feel like in in basketball,
teams will oftentimes take time off and I get pushedback

(09:02):
from people. They go, oh, no, that's not true. You're
making it up. Other you know, other sports do it,
and stuch like that. Here's a prime example. This was
one of my listeners texted me this.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Uh he said, hold on, so just talk.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You might enjoy this quote from Jimmy Buckets probably take
up a thirteen to fourteen minute segment. Here's the quote
from from Buckets, the fight. Honestly, I think that the
fight's not always there. We got to fight no matter what.
Most of that fighting I'm talking about is on the
defensive end. Not getting stops means you're just not playing hard.

(09:40):
You're just not doing whatever it takes to win. And
when I bring that up the basketball community and the Wolves,
especially because the Wolves are maybe I don't know, I'm
not paying this close attention to the NBA in general
and specifically the Wolves as I once did. But I
think the Wolves seem to do it more than any
other team in the league.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
It just seems that way as I see the same
quotes from them all the time. How the effort wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
We got to give a hundred percent first game of
the season or first or second, we had, we had Devincenzo,
Devin Senzo saying that, well, if we're not giving any effort,
we're not going to win any ball.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
This was at the beginning of the season, first game.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's not even like they were on you know, the
fourth game in a week, you know, back to back
they played. You know, they played on a Tuesday, a Thursday,
and then Saturday Sunday, and Sunday afternoon was a matinee,
and so they were a little tuckered. This is like
second game of the season, first game of the season.
So here's Jimmy Bucketts saying the same thing he's saying.
He says, right here, he goes, not getting stops.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Means you're just not playing hard, because that's what it is.
I've said it forever.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I played basketball, not at a high level like I
did boot hockey, and not like football where.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was a fierce pass rushing rocket grobalta run stopping
defensive lineman. I played both sides at the ball, by
the way, and.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was a precise route running, surehanded, pass catching tight end.
I was a hell of a boot hockey goaltender. There
was a where I may have been the best boot
hockey goaltender, not only in the Twin Cities, not only
in Minnesota, but maybe in the whole entire Rupper Midwest,
maybe in the country, in the world, maybe in the world.
But I've played enough pickup basketball to know that defense
is mostly effort. I know, you know, there's there's defensive schemes,

(11:16):
and there's you know, you know, week and weak side
help and strong side help and you know, weak and
strong side help, and there's this, and then you.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Have to be connected and all that. But it's mostly
just effort.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Just get in the guy's face, don't deny the guy
the ball, don't let him touch the ball, get in
the passing lanes, try to make a steal every once
in a while.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And most teams a lot of players don't want to.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Do it because they just and I don't know if
it's like an unwritten rule or if they have a
you know, ah am, I trying to say this, like
they have an agreement before the games. It's just like, hey,
if you don't try real hard on defense, we won't either.
Let's just see who can outscore who, right, almost like
it's an All Star games.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
You know, they ever play defense in All Star Games?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So But there's further proof for those of you who
want to attack me and say, don't what I'm talking about.
Here's one of the best players in the National Basketball Association,
my favorite player in the NBA, and I would not
trade in a million years Jimmy Buckets for Victor Weymanyama.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Not in a million years. But just so there you
have it.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
One of the best players and one of the best
defensive players in the league says, not getting.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Stops means you're not playing hard.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
So that should seal it. Signed, sealed, delivered on yours.
Stevie Wonder, I think did that originally, and I think
Peter Frampton did a cover of it as well. We'll
take a break, We'll come back has been fast paced,
has been action packed and controversial.

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Speaker 2 (13:36):
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Speaker 2 (14:40):
Lavelle and Neil will be part of Peak at the
Purple today.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Late last night when I got home, it was about
a half past ten.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I think I told you Tenmy My habit now.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is to fall asleep on the couch and then wake
up midnight one o'clock in the morning. Then I go
about my brush, my teeth, ready for wash, my face,
get ready for bed right, and then I sit and
I'll scan.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I'm doing show prep.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I'm much like Adam Schefter. He's tweeting at two or
three o'clock in the morning. I'm actually reading late at night.
So it's about twelve thirty and I stumble across the lobelly.
Neil the third's piece on JJ McCarthy Bear's QB Caleb Williams,
the twenty twenty four number one pick sets a blueprint

(15:29):
for JJ McCarthy. So he talks about the growing pains
of Caleb Williams. If you remember his first year, which
was last year, he did struggle. He had he he
was sacked on, he hung out of the ball too much.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
He just he had a very mediocre season.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Some of it for some of it is own doing
by hanging out of the ball, by not getting rid of.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
The ball, taking sacks some of it.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't think the coaching staff was tip top, and
and he didn't have a lot of help on the
offensive line, much like we've seen happen with the Vikings.
But he has gotten better this year. The Bears are
six and three, they have a rebuilt offensive line, and
they're doing well. And LaBelle points all this stuff out.
But what he says here tend to be He says,

(16:24):
with more reps and coach Kevin O'Connell's guidance, McCarthy can
one day flourish like Daniels Nicks and may have. Williams
isn't there yet either, but it is making progress. He
includes a quote from O'Connell saying all experience being good

(16:46):
experience for him right now. You'd love to make them
all after wins, but we got to do the things
required as a team, and then JJ is going to
make a lot of those plays for us, and like
I said, to compete. His willingness to lay it on
the line and try to make the plays are very
much things we knew about him. But now it's just
about continuing to carve this thing and shape it in
a way where we're helping him become the best version

(17:06):
of himself, both short term and long term. Then Lavell
closes it out by saying, it's impossible to determine how
long it will take McCarthy to consistently flourish. Right now,
it's easy to see how volatile development can be. It's
impossible to determine how long it will take McCarthy to
consistently flourish.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I then.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Texted LaBelle Neil. This would have been at twelve ten
last night or this morning. I said, it's also possible
McCarthy will never flourish. Then I went to bed. He
did respond forty minutes later, Wow, he was up.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
He said, run with that.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So then when I woke up at six am to
get ready for my day, I saw him say run
with that. And I said, you make it sound like
it's a guarantee he'll be really good, that he just
needs time.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
The NFL landscape his fill to.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Top ten quarterback picks that were bus and most of
them had moments in their short careers that made it
appear they were going to be successful players for years
to come, but they never panned out. And he said,
I pointed out that we don't know what the final
product will be like as a Bears fan, I have
experienced watching quarterback prospects fail my assertions that he will improve.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's still a young man, baby, I don't even know
what that means.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
But no, what you said was in your piece you said,
we don't know how long it will take him to flourish. Well,
he may never flourish, So he very well could. It
was almost like it was a given. And so I
just thought I chied him a little bit, and you know,
poke him a little bit and say, you know, you
just just because the head coach of the team says

(18:53):
that we're all headed in the right direction, He's going
to be fine, and it's a learning experience where carving
things out for him doesn't guarantee anything. Now, we've talked
about this every single week, every day of every week,
and I think you and I both are on the
same page. We're not giving up on him in any way,
shape or form. He has shown some signs ever been flashes.

(19:13):
That first Bears game he had in the uh the
victor over the Lions, he had he had some really
nice plays in the first half and then the toss
to Speedy nailor to to to to to clinch the
game was a really nice play as well, but it's
been more disappointment than anything so far. Right, I mean

(19:36):
it's it's just hasn't and again he's young and blah
blah blah, but so.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
We'll learn more.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think this week against the Bears, it's it's it's
I just it seems like people either think they've already
made a determination he's he's going to be really good
because look at look at the struggles Josh Allen had
and Peyton Mann and had they add struggles, or they

(20:05):
think he's going to be a complete bust, and I,
you know, I don't know. That's why for me, it's
like I want to play it out, but I just
want when I see or read or hear people either
make one determination or the other after four stars, I
think it's I think it's poppycock.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I think it's I think it's foolhardy.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think you can't make that kind of you cat
if you want, and you might be right. You could
make the determination right now and say he's going to
be a fifteen year starter for the Vikings and be
a franchise quarterback, and he might end up being that way,
or you can say I don't think he's ever going
to get out of his second year in the league,
and you could be right there as well we'd all
be disappointed.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
But I think it's just a little bit too easy.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, there is a scenario that, like four months
from now, we're moving on to a different quarterback, right, Like,
it's not a guaranteed slam dunk. This guy is our
guy for the next decade. He has to show you
something over here over the second half straight second hal
half of the season.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I think so, I do think so.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I know, I and people treat him like he's a rookie.
I get it from a game experience standpoint, he is,
but this is year two for him, so he's not
going through the year one rookie issues of learning and
professional offense for the first time, like he should have
all that stuff down. It's more of a you know,
learning NFL defenses and picking up the speed of play.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, then, when I checked my email this morning before
I went to go play golf, an emailer and I
think was a listener, emailed me to comment at camp
dot com, and I think it was coming on the
heels of our discussion yesterday about Sam Darnald, right, and
then he said, boy, people easily forget that Sam Donald
had two terrible games at the end.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Of the season.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, no, no, one's forgotten that he had a bad
game against Detroit. How many times do we have to
remind Speaking of reminding people, he said, do you have
to remind people are bad Donald was for two games?
Do you have to remind people that Donald was sacked
nine times? The offensive line was so bad? Imediately following

(22:01):
the game, the head coach said, we're going to rebuild
the interior of the This is twenty minutes after the
end of the game. He's already declaring we need help
on the offensive offensive line. Darnold was, for the most part,
really really good last year. He's been really really good
this year. If you're going to take one game and
it was a critical game, I'll give you that. I mean,

(22:23):
it was against Detroy, final game of the season. They
could have clinched home field a manage. But if you're
going to say one poor performance, one game where you
played really poorly, if you're going to say, well that's
how you determine a quarterback, well, then there's not a
quarterback in the league you'd ever be able to trust
because even the best of all time if had struggles before,
especially early early on. So it's I just have to

(22:47):
roll my ax, shrug my shoulders, and shake my head.
I'm looking forward to this Sunday's game. This should be
a game where the Vikings should be able to get
back on track. And I know that there have been people,
Well let's break, we got more to get to. A
short break will come back. Don't forget the head coach.
At about twelve forty.

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Speaker 2 (23:32):
Thirteen fourteen past common man, full of them. I'm common,
He's tend to be. Here's what I think the issue is.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I haven't wanted to really say it, or I guess
I just haven't felt like bringing it up. But here's
the truth of the matter is the people that are
pushing back on you and I saying McCarthy hasn't been
playing very well.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
He's the jury still out.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
They are such die hard Viking fans and so badly
want him to be that they're in denial. They don't
want to any criticism at all. For instance, how about
this text mean? Now I know you're thinking I made
this up or this is a AI generated text.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Really, McCarthy's been more disappointment than encouraging. He's played in
three games for the old line has been a box
of band aids since the start of the season, and
the rest of the team pretty much shot themselves against
the Ravens with self inflicted with or shot themselves against
the Ravens with self inflicted wounds. Don't blame McCarthy for

(24:33):
twenty one other player's poor performance or the coaching performances.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
The offensive line was intact last week.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Last week they had all four of their starting their
two starting tackles, and their two starting guards and their center.
They've been raving about Brandle. They say this is probably
his natural position. He's in for the for concussion guy.
He threw forty two passes and completed twenty se wounds
came from JJ mccarrtly. He was the one that was

(25:02):
having trouble with the cadence that those eight on false starts.
The coach admitted, they're on the quarterback. He was overthrowing
wide receive. Did you see how many times he overthrew.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Wide receives perceptions he wasn't pressured on.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Are you watching the same game?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Look, we all want him to do well, and we
think he has a chance. But to try to pretend
that he's not the biggest issue with the team right now,
you're lying to yourself, he said the other twenty one players.
The defense was brilliant is probably too strong of a word,
but they kept stopping the Ravens and holding him to

(25:41):
field goals. They were on the field forever. Late in
the game, they gave up some tuddies, but how long
are they supposed to keep their finger in the dike?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
One of those tuddies was a turnover in your own territory.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's that is correct.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's like, folks, quit coddling the kid, and we know
you want him to play really well, but he's not
your kid. You watch your kid play hockey, you do,
and I watched my boy play basketball. You want the
best form and you don't want him to do anything
but he's JJ McCarthy's not your kid. This is the
National Football League, this is this is big time sports.

(26:14):
Doesn't matter how old you are, how much experience you have,
you're either making the play as here or not. No
one's saying he needs to be cut, no one's saying
he needs to be benched. But to pretend that he
hasn't been literally awful for the most part.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
He's had his.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Moments fourth quarter of the Bears game, and he had
his moments against Detroit, and he had his moments against
but for the but every quarterback has moments in games.
That's why they're in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Be consistent, Yeah, that's what well, So it's definitely a
hand in hand thing.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'd rather talk about my golf game, I know really,
because it's just getting to the point. Look, if if if,
if you want to coddle the head coach or the
the the the quarterback, and you want to hear nothing
but ducky and bunny about him, then nine of news
are placed to go right because I'm I'm being told
that pa is all in on them kids, is going

(27:20):
to be a great quarterback, and maybe it will be.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I would say the jury is still out. That's what
I was, That's.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
What I'm saying too. That's all we're trying to say.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Here will break, We'll come back, and then the head
coach would sooner be a big game world champion.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Minnesota Viking Roll have his midweek news conference right here
in the fan