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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Way swellthy Avatar early this year, you know last year Avatar.
For those that don't know avatars, aggravated vikings anticipatory traumatic
abandonment reactions syndrome. You know how there ain't no cure
for the summertime blues. We don't know if there's a
cure for Avatar. We think the only thing that would
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rid Planet Earth, or at least the Upper Midwest with
Avatar would be a Big Game victory for the soon
to be Big Game World Champion of Minnesota Vikings. But
until that occurs, we'll never know. It's like when the
gold Does Twins Rapaporren Jones. I don't recall the first names.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
They were the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
They were the management team for gentleman Jerry Cooney, a
undefeated heavyweight out of New Joysey back in the eighties,
and he was knocking everybody out in the first round,
and some media schlob asked him, They said, can he
take a punch in? One of the Golddust Twins said,
we might never know. Mike Jones and Denny Rappaport, we
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might never find out. He might ever get hit boy.
He finally didn'tet hit. He got knocked out by their
holes in the thirteenth round and then he went on
to that was basically it.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He fought half a dozen more times, lost four of them.
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Was a similar serie with Monday Night Football Guys Comedy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, I I am. I played golf with Jerry Cooney
before Jerry came to town. He was going to do
a he was he was in a time for a
fundraiser as a guest of Scotland Do. They were raising
money for Ladue's charity and it was going to be
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a sparring session, you know, with headgear and big sixteen
ounce clubs. Coney was going to spar Brock Lesnar in
the Superstar Mike Morris. Both Lesnar and Morris backed out
the day. No, yep, So it was my job. Jerry
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light to golf, so it was my job to set
up golf. So my brother and I played with gentlemen
Jerry Cooney and Scotty LaDue at the Old Haitians Country
Club and I kind of regret that he didn't ask
Jerry a lot about his career because I didn't know
if that's what you know, you know, it is tendab be,
you know, it's you know, well known people that happens
to you all the time. What's it like being tennebee?
How did you come up with tarpshooter?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Can you tell that story about when you were really
just trying to check swing it in a slow pitch
softball game on a three home run limit.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
League and you hit it over the fence.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You get those things all the time, and after while,
you get tired of answering those.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Questions over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So it's like, don't you so tell me about when
you got stopped by Larry Holmes, Tell me about when
you knocked out this guy, tell me about this, Tell
me about that emphasis.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I didn't talk much. We just basically played golf.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But I look back on it wish I would have
spent more time by talking to him.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But we didn't. I mean talking about his career. But
what we did not do that?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, So it's basically, uh, didn't the lights draw the
curtain at fade to black?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That was boy?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's see this this roller this is the Viking season.
I would compare it to Valley Fair, the roller coaster,
very fair. What does it called the Valley Fair on
the roller coaster? Is it viper or Venom. Well they
have one that Viper.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I only go back to the like Excalibur days and
the Corkscrew and wild Thing. Yeah, maybe that's it new stuff.
I haven't been on wild Thing.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Uh uh uh, you make my hot scene.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
They've had a new one since wild Thing.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you're up and you're down. We were so high.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
She's so hot above me, so love, so lovely, like
Cleopatra Joan of arc Afro Deiti.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're saying I should have done a roller coaster of love.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
For the Maybe that's what we should do. You know
that I actually did think about that, did you really? Yeah,
love roller coast. You can say what can you do it?
I'll say what love?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And we could have done it because it's been around.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, we were so high last week after a
convincing victory over a pretty good Detroit team.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We saw how good they were again yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
See Danny Campbell was calling the place I did the
whole first fifty to ten minutes of his news conference
after the game.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They were asking him about it, and.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
He tried to be kind. No, no, John Morton is
still helping me a lot. I just thought we had
to do a little something different that was basically.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
John Morton got demoted. You're not call ploss douce.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That I first noticed because Campbell's wearing readers of the
sidelights staring at the place sheet. I always loved that
he looked like Santa Claus without the beard, you're the
little tiny glasses. But yeah, anyway, so we beat the Lions.
We put ourselves back in the thick of things. JJ
was pretty good, wasn't great. There's going to be a
learning curve. You know, he's on training wheels, I guess right.
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And then yesterday got in such a good start to
the game too. Didn't Baltimore go three and out or
maybe they got one first down, but they were done.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
They punted, We marched down.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
We just carved them up, I mean, just sliced and diced.
And McCarthy looked at running game was okay, and it
looked good, and then even at a halftime lead, and
then it just we kind of blew it on either side.
You know how they always say one of the most
important parts of the game is the two minutes going
into the half and.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The two minutes coming out of the half. The Vikings
kind of just.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That we had the ball and we gave it up
with in three downs, right, and then we throw a
couple of incompletions because yeah, because the coach is obsessed
with throwing the football, and maybe I don't recall the
exact circumstance, maybe that was the only thing we could do.
But then the Ravens got the ball back and within
they didn't have much more than what forty seconds, thirty
whatever it was, they got into field goal range, they
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kicked the figure they're down I think three at the
half or four whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Maybe was just like.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
At one point and then we got the ball. Did
we fumble the opening kickoff? Was that the fumble or
was that later on?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It all kind of runs them that they kicked the
field goal to take the lead.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So somehow we I think we were we we Oh,
we started the half with a couple of ice runs.
I think we ran, got a couple of a couple
of first downs. Then we had to give the ball
up and we got behind me and the Ravens never
looked back. And I didn't think the Ravens played that well,
to be honest with you. I mean, Lamar looked he
looked like wentz well a little better, but you know
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what I'm saying. It wasn't like he was doing anything spectacular.
They were just and the Vikings defense we'll get it all.
But as we go on here, the Vikings defense actually
did play well again. They stopped the Ravens on an
on numerous driving, forced them to kick figies until it
got deeper into the second half. But Vikings lose. They
dropped to four and five. Yeah, it was just it
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Speaker 2 (08:48):
So there's a lot to sift through.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is it possible that US Bank Stadium is the Vikings
Libria tarpet? Haven't they lost that four in a row
there or three of the last four. They've not played.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well when there was the Cincinnati game.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, it's not. It's supposed to be home sweet home.
They've had a weird schedule. They had two games across
the pond back to back. But there's there's a lot
to sift through. I bring up librea tarpet, because someday
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Speaker 2 (09:31):
The uh nine Did you see my tweet?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I did?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The listener gave that to me. I'm full disclosure. Usually
I just steal them. I don't steal that they provide
it to me, and I don't credit, but I will
credit this time. It was a listener that I think
I've heard from before, but it wasn't more Amsterdam Guy.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
When I told him about it, he was better that
he didn't come back.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's selling a very more Ansterdam guy type point.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And it went something like, instead of his altered he's
got the rename his alter ego from nine he's playing
like this to nine to five. He's gonna have to
get a desk job. He didn't have the most efficient
of games. He threw a couple of interceptions in the
game twenty for forty two one touchdown, two interceptions. I
mean he had more incompletions that he had completions. He
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looked a little like Sam Darnold in that Lions game
last year. Remember that last Lions game of the season
was the last game in the season by he's trying
to clinch homefield advantage about the playoffs, and he overthrew
receivers over and over and over and almost like he
was he was jacked up on caffeine or something. Just
overthrew every wide receiver. And I'm telling you, we saw that.
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It seemed like a half a dozen times with.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You know, I know you can relate to this because
you're one of the best I've ever seen around the greens,
thank you. Right when you're chipping from off the green
and there's different depending on where your lie is and
whether there's a sand trap in front of you, where
the pin is, there's different runs. There's different elevations of
how you can get it on the ground right away
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and let it roll. You can and run, yeah, you
can fifty percent of the way. You can have the
ball in the air. Like he doesn't seem to have
the ability to change between He's kind of like me.
That's how I golf. Yeah, I can only chip the
one way yeah, I can only chip one way. He
doesn't seem to have like the different variations in his
ability to throw the football, which might explain why they
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all get batted down at the line because he can't
actually put a touch over the line.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I thought I read that there was three batted down passes.
There were more than that. Wasn't there?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was there only three? Felt like more.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think there were more. I think there were five
or six.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I felt like Kyle Hamilton alone had three.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, it seemed like it was more than that to me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Well, you're right, you know, and we talked a couple
of times last week about during the Lions game, Brady
talked about having to have those three kind of throws,
the one you have to you know, you throw the
frozen rope, you throw it hard, bulleted in there, and
you have your touch passes, and you're you know, all
the different kinds of passes.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
He didn't really seem to have that touch pass. He
threw a couple of really nifty balls he always does.
I mean, how many times have you You and I
have talked about this so often? Every guy in the
league and quarterback a little bit. That's why they're there.
You don't get drafted all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You get in there and go, this guy's got zero
idea what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
They generally it's just that once they get you know,
it's you can play Fridays and Saturdays. You think about
it in college football, how many major universities are there.
There's literally hundreds. There's the thousands of college football players.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You narrow that down.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
In NFL fifty three guys on thirty two teams, you're
talking about the best in the world. Right, So it's
for a lot of guys, it's just the games too fast.
They just don't have the talent. They're all right, but
they can't do it. And look he's still I'm not
throwing in the towle, lon No, and not by any
shape any way, shape or form. But yeah, there's going
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to be a learning curve there. And that was part
of the problem with you know, with with with with
the whole, with with the whole the team's playing. What
you know, what they did was, you know, they they
they kind of wanted to have it both ways. We
want to win now, so you you you you improve
the interior of both lines, and then you see if
you can kind of spoon feed a a young quarterback
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and if you provide them with you know, enough weapons
and enough cover, enough time and a good defense.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And good protection and given time, you can.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Sorry, maybe we can win some games and it's it's
but yesterday was.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was not good.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There are a lot of people are complaining about the
play calling again because they did run the ball pretty well.
I mean, but they kind of went away from the run.
And I think there was that one point in the
game where people we had a third and one, was
it near midfield or just into Baltimore territory and they
decided to go for the long passing Jefferson incomplete and
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then what happened on the next bay Was it a
sack or was the interception?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Something happened. I think that justin Jefferson owned the interception.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Was that the internet?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That was right, That's exactly what happened. It was the
interception is what happened. The coach was asked about it
in the postgame news conference, he said, well, look, I'll
take Jefferson one on one every time, and I don't
He's right, sure, you don't expect the players to get
tangled up in.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Blue but they did.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And then he said I was going to go on
fourth down no matter what, which we got to take
his word for it, and he probably was, but there
are those that would still say.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Why don't you just running on third and one? You know,
why do we have to you know?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And again I think I think most teams like to
take that shot, so I can't really I can't be
too critical of that decision. But it does seem like
he likes to throw. I mean, that's forty two passes
in the games. I wonder did I just say there's
not the number passes. That's a lot of throw especially.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
For a young kid.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But you know, the.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Game situations kind of dictate what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Defense.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I thought played they stopped Baltimore on on a number
of occasions, and when they got into Viking territory and
they have to settle for figies.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But at the very end, I don't know if it
was getting tuckered or not. I think that's that's.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Always that's always thrown out as an alibis the defense
is starting to get a little tired. Well, yeah, we're
all tired, so but yeah, it was it was a
game that they could have had. I mean, it wasn't
like Baltimore is brilliant. The the bikers were pretty good early.
Uh the fumble by the Price kid. You know, he
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had a big story ratt Rode about him fish Rap
Factory west Side.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
He had been really good returner for us.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Then it seems like almost I'd read in the story
about him where he said, you know, I told him
I'm going to return, I'm going to return on one.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Of these days, and I think he was.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He's so determined to make an impact, which I admire, right,
I admire. I admire what he's doing. But that was
a critical turn. Yeah right, Well he looked he fumbled twice.
We were covered one, yeah, one, they were covered. I
think they scored a tonny on it. So we'll go
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Speaker 2 (16:46):
A couple thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Past Common Man program I'm common He's tend to be
head coach and assuming a v Big Game World champion
Minnesota Vikings Kevin O'Connell will address the assembled media roughly
twelve forty five short segment here we'll break. We'll try
to catch that as soon as it as soon as
it begins, text message here real quick.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That says, after years of ripping.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
The walls because of postgame quotes of being outworked, hold on,
I just lost it for a second, of being outworked
and then saying the NFL and NHL never mail it.
In the NBA community, wonders of common will opine on
Josh Allen's postgame quote saying the Dolvis just wanted it
more and outworked us.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Will come and cue the Houdini music.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And get out of this one, or he will be
or will he be the only talk show host Remindia
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, well, no, I've never been wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
My response to that, well, there's the first time for everything,
because I don't believe it's ever happened in the National
Football League that another team just didn't put out the
effort that's required. And my guess is I didn't hear
the quote or see it, but I don't think that's
the way Alan meant it. You take a playoff in
the NFL, you'll get killed, saying with the NHL, if
your head's not on a swivel, you're in trouble. In
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the NBA, they admit that they just don't play defen
You watch it, you see it. They don't even sometimes
they don't even play defense. They just it's mad ador so.
But yeah, it sounds like that's what happens. That was
the first time for everything. So it doesn't change my
opinion on If I know you love your basketball, you
think it's the greatest sport.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Ever you can that's great.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I like, I like I watch baby I went to
basketball games for ten years every week year round. Baby
brother Peter played, But I like basketball. I enjoy it
very much. I just remember when watching baby brother Peter play.
Every team he played on, every kid gave it everything
they had start to finish. They never took time off.
They never just said I'm not going to play defense here.
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We see it happen in the pros all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They admit it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Here would be my defense.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
In the NFL, have you ever heard of load management?
Never heard a load And the NHL have you ever
heard of load management?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Don't load manage. No, they do it in the NBA
all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I just.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
There are gonna be growing pains with McCarthy. But it's
like he was as inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I mean, he was making throws where it look like
he did have some He had some time.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
To throw folks. It wasn't like he was under siege.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's a that wasn't much of a pass rush for
the most part. I mean I think it may have been. Yeah,
it was. Uh, we talked about. We bring up Mark Craig,
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often a football writer fish Reight Factory west Side does
his five extra points, He.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Writes the race he goes.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Besides, McCarthy's worst throws came when there was no pressure
the Ravens horrendous pass rush entered the game with only
eleven sacks, second worst in the league. Yet McCarthy looked
rushed when he shouldn't have been. Two of the eight
field failed targets to Justin Jefferson stood out as unforced
what the heck misfires on fourth and three from the
Ravens fourteen and a third of ten from the Ravens
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thirty five. He also had three balls batted down to
VI line of scrimmage two by Kyle Hamilton. I thought
it was more than that, he goes on to say
McCarthy sometimes looked like a guy who needed a paper
bag to breathe into hyperventilating. Yet the first ten times
he was pressured in the first three quarters, it completed
at four of nine, including third down conversions to Jefferson
for ten and Naylor for eighteen. Bottom line, he's good,
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but not good enough to beat the typical NFL learning curve.
Buckle up, It's going to be a bumpy ride for
a while. I will say it could be for a
long while.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
We don't know it could it could change next week.
Everybody's learning curve is different, sir. There's always the possibility.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And dare I say this, and I don't want to
be the I don't want to be the bearer of
bad news.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But he ain't ever.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Learn even to the point where averaging that he doesn't
become you know, a Carson Wentz type where he weighs
a backup, he's okay, complain the lead. I mean, I
guess he could go anywhere from and just would just
be including Viking quarterbacks. You going towhere from targeting to Ponder,
And there was actually players that weren't even as good
as Ponder. I think we've had under center over the years.
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But yeah, it's uh, there's no It seemed like Cousins
and Darnold had no problem establishing a chemistry with with uh,
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with Jet none. I mean, he was we didn't matter
which guy was thrown. He was simply brilliant. I mean,
we know the numbers. It's the first person in HL
history to reach this amount of catches or this amount
of yards or tell you whatever they are in the
shortest amount of.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Time, right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, he's he's been established, he's paid as the
best wide receiver in pro football.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He probably is the best wide receiver prof point we've
talked about.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You can make an argument or two, but that's got
a change. Naylor was good and it's really good. It
didn't target, you know, the target on Addie. He couldn't
connect on those very much either. So yeah, there's some
there's you know, here's what a lot of fans texted
you and I on the on the on the Cava
text line, the the branch on broad Capane text on.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
They said, stop the nonsense with wins.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Let's see what we got with McCarthy where you're seeing
it now and you're gonna see it for the rest
of the year.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So this is what you're gonna have to take. It's
it can change. We know what you know. The Bears
are pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
They've won what five in a row or something four
in a row? There, there there's six and three. There's
there's not an easy game in the schedule, as the
Bills learned yesterday.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
All right, what's up?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Pause return when we come out to the head coach
and the soon to be Big Game World Champion Minnesota,
Bacon should be addressing the assembled media at the new
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