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November 25, 2024 • 45 mins
Muss joins the festivities, the Daniel Jones to the Vikings debate rages on
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, well they're nine and two and.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You thought they might be two and nine. They're nine
and two.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's Minnesota Biking's morning shirt and a part of Morning
Show on the Monday. And the Vikes from nine and
two ner Christmas and Happy Holidays?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Do you.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Sam Sam Donald through for three hundred and forty yards
or something like that, and the Vices ninety two?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hey you know what, man? Yeah, well, I was thinking
I was thinking this.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Most the number one wide receivers in the league would
be bitching a moment, throwing their helmet on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now, JJ, I love that. I love the guy. He
gets it.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
He does, he really does, and it helps and it
helps that we're winning. Yeah, it'd be one thing if
he wasn't getting the targets that he was looking for
and then we were losing these games, and then and
then you know, Addison wasn't stepping up, Hawkinson wasn't stepping up,
Jones wasn't stepping up. That would be maybe a little different.
I think that he would probably have every right to

(01:17):
be like a little frustrated. But in this situation when
all these guys are compensating for his lack of targets
and we're winning these games.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
How can you be bad and max a little bit earlier?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
But at least one time a game there's a sixty
yard pass interference penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, he had, he got what fifty some yards of
forty five yards and defensive penalties from Johnson. Yeah, so
that counts for something. I mean that one the one drive,
the one scoring drive that we had, was it Addison's
touchdown that got us down there. I mean that was
with a thirty five yard defensive pass interference, so that,

(01:55):
I mean that accounts for something.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
And on the Jalen Naylor touchdown, they broke out how
Jalen Johnson definitely bit on doubling Jefferson as opposed to
staying with Jalen Naylor. That he took that one false
step because Justin was behind him and that was the difference.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
So even it's like the it's a shutdown corner that
has almost no interceptions and no tackles because they just
don't throw it to that side of the field. Justin
clearly puts up monster numbers. But yesterday was one of
those days. He had a pretty giant impact for a
guy that had two catches.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yes he did. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
You could feel it if you watch the game, if
you just look at the box where you're like, wow,
Jefferson did nothing but either drawing attention or drawing flags.
I felt like he was in the mix the entire game.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, so you know that is I know that we're
adding over overtime into this, but I don't think what
was the stat The Bears hadn't given up more than
like twenty three points or something like that all season
long to any any opponent, and we score thirty on him.
And again, a little bit that's part of that's extra time,

(02:56):
but the fact that they had to minute their defense
and what they really want to do just to slow down,
justin Jefferson, because we walked into the game, they're all
talking about, well, this is the team that runs the
most single high man coverage and all this other stuff.
And I'm like, Okay, this is great if they do that,
and I think we're going to torch them because it's

(03:16):
it's this. Our guys, I believe, in a Manda man situation,
are just better than their guys through the course of
sixty minutes. But they had to go more to two
high looks just like Tennessee did just like Jacksonville did.
They had to go go against the grain a little bit,
and by doing that, they obviously they want to double
and take away Justin down the field, but they left

(03:37):
everybody else open and Addison took advantage in Hawk. You know,
it was a while before he really got going, but
late in the game and overtime he just took over.
So it was beautiful. We made the adjustments when they
made adjustments.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, do you think again, what Addison and Hawk did
late in the game history and what Madison did the
entire game. Is I going to relieve some of the
pressure on JJ or are we still always away from that?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think it has to relieve the pressure or you know,
especially especially with Hawkinson really starting to feel himself now
and really we're really finding the mismatches and where we
can exploit defenses. It is going to be a headache
for defensive coordinators on what down and distance and what
game situation because you're gonna have to You're gonna have

(04:19):
to bracket him, you have to, you have to pay
special attention to Justin at some point in time in
the game. It's just like, at what point in time
and game are you gonna do that the obvious third downs? Well,
then we know that that's the chess match. Okay, on
the obvious gotta have it downs, you're probably gonna take
JJ away. So then we'll go to somebody else. And
you better hope that those other guys guarding those other

(04:39):
players are stepping up to play well as well. So
we will find ways to get justin the ball. I
guarantee that, but we don't. We don't really have to
at this point in time.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Paul your hands out. Do we know how Cam Robinson
is doing?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I don't. I that's a huge that's a huge thing
to uh as we get ready for Arizon on a
week Is his health I believe it was a foot. Yes,
is what they do, is what they officially listed. But
you know, hop shot up to question mary Man. He
came in and did we call his name once in

(05:12):
a negative way? In a negative way, no penalty, And
then how about this two times? And or two times
now this season we've had to go to Nick Mullens
in a weird situation where I think both times were
on third down, and then he comes in throws a
spins the ball a couple of times on the sideline,

(05:33):
gets his body somewhat warmed up, goes in there, takes
total control, drops it right in the middle to that
little middle screen that we had to Aaron Jones on
third down. He goes for like thirteen fourteen and then
just checks back out.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Let's ask you the question we asked before you got here.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
If Daniel Jones wants to sign a minimum contract year
at three o'clock, would you rather have Mullens, way rather
have Mullens?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Okay, yeah, I don't here he started that room, by
the way, Adam Schefter.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Schefter said that the Ravens and Vikings were the most
likely to be interested, I think is how he worded it,
because Daniel Jones wants a playoff contender, and he specifically
named those two teams on Sports Center yesterday morning.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Before he had After Jesus, I got questions, man who
had sex?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Adam, Oh, yeah, that was last week's story. Yeah, yeah,
there's a story of Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
He broke a big story, like right basically kind of
was like hold on one second and then I'll just text, Okay, honey,
we're back.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah. He supposedly admitted that somebody asked him. I don't
know was a podcast. You guys have the full story, Like,
what's the weirdest time that you've ever broke a story
or something? And he said, like right after having sex
and then yeah, really yeah, he was.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Like eight phones sitting on the bed and oh man,
everything's vibrating.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
So what's the weirdest time you ever broke in a story?

Speaker 8 (06:59):
When I was taking a I did I broke the
ron Garden higher taking a dump.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Remember scoop and wall pooping.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
You do your best thinking there.

Speaker 8 (07:08):
Yeah, somebody just texted to me. I didn't go out
looking for it, all right?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Cool? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Daniel Jones was waived over the weekend, released by the Giants.
He's expected to clear waivers today and then could sign
with somebody as a free agent after three o'clock Central today.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I guess I don't understand. Look, we all know that
Schefter has people on the inside of every organization. So
is this inside information or is just this him just
thinking out loud? Okay, playoff contenders that have, you know,
possibly backup quarterback situations that he could walk into. My

(07:47):
thing with Daniel Jones joined the Vikings. He I think
he clearly struggled to get comfortable in the Giants system.
What makes you think that he's a productive player being
a backup when he's gonna get literally zero reps in practice.
It's gonna all have to be the mental rep variety.

(08:08):
And then what do you do with them next year?
It's like you walked away. Do people forget that it's
gonna be JJ's team. He's taken over? We really think
we're gonna have Daniel Jones as his backup when we
have a guy like Nick Mullens who can go out
there and sling it for four hundred yards. Like, the
logic doesn't make sense to me at all? Is it
the theory that Chaos is a quarterback whisperer? Yeah, but

(08:30):
you quarterback Jones? Maybe that's like the thought process in
there where you're just spitballing. Yeah, if if if Kaos
was running an off season quarterback reclamation project, and he was,
he you know, he was like going to the Manning
Passing Academy possibly but not in season and certainly not

(08:53):
for next year. And I could be totally just having
an egg on my face if they sign this guy,
you know, this week or next week. But I to me,
it makes zero sense. Zero.

Speaker 8 (09:04):
I think the other thing too though, with how yesterday
was he wanted to play for or play on a
playoff team. I think it changes if the Raiders have
any interest, because if they keep a Desmond Ridder, they
are full on tank mode, right. But if that might
have changed yesterday with that's an open spot, he could

(09:25):
hopefully take the job from Desmond Ridder is so bad, right,
that might change it. Then he can go, he can
play there, he would be the starter for the Raiders.
That might change his tune from yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, if he's making starting money or I don't know,
maybe maybe he just wants to take a break. Maybe
he wants to take a breather this Yearney, You're like, listen,
I've made a lot of money. I'd just let me
find the best fit for me, maybe going forward and
not just a stop here and there, and they can
play a little pick a ball. Maybe he'll pick a ball.

(09:58):
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I just
think the idea of him coming here doesn't make a
lot of sense.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
But no matter what happens, with just what six weeks
left in the regular season, he's gonna end up being
probably a backup quarterback no matter where he goes.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Unless I mean unless, like unless like sauces like laying
it out, unless it's just.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Like you get a broken collarbone from all. But I'm
talking about like next year. Do you think he is
a starting quarterback? But whoever he signs a Giant, don't
think so. Let's say he signs with the Vikings today.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I still don't understand how he would be back next
year because, correct, this year, you signed Sam Darnold to
a ten million dollars deal as a true one year
bridge quarterback.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
He's likely the starter.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Even though we heard JJ was making that competition a
little hotter than we thought. Maybe, but the plan with
Sam starts for a year. JJ gets in there after that.
If JJ's ready next year, you don't need a ten
million dollar backup right, What is Daniel Jones is not
going to take veteran's minimum next year to back somebody
up right, He's gonna want so money somewhere. He's not

(11:02):
gonna sign here.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
We don't want it. Is he gonna be able to
get it?

Speaker 7 (11:04):
That's the thing I mean, when you when you literally
the team just goes, We'll just let you go. We
don't want you to play, We want nothing.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Because of the injury insurance. If he would have gotten hurt,
then what was it sauce twenty twenty. So they just
didn't want to risk it anymore. But I still think
and look Daniel Jones, the days of him making forty
million a year, that's long gone. But if you look
at what Sam Donald just got paid, I don't even
think Daniel Jones is going to get ten next year.
But if you want some money, why would the Vikings

(11:33):
give him anywhere near ten million next year? They It
makes no sense. I'd rather have like you just said, Ben,
I'd rather have somebody like Mullins way cheaper than that
and save that money.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
And plus again we're losing that.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Daniel Jones sucks.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Why do we keep forgetting It's like, I know he
has all the potential and he was a top pick.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You saying the same thing about Sam Donald, But again.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
He's the exception, not the rule. Though he is the exception,
though it's it's not that easy. Plus I just I
think Sam Arnold, just you can see with the eye tests,
he's so much better even potential than Daniel Jones.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
I just haven't.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
He's looked good one game basically in his five year career,
and it was against US and the freaking playoffs.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And all your points.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
These guys are professional athletes because they want to play.
He's I if he comes here, he has to know.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Even if let's say, let's just.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
Say he signed some kind of weird two year deal,
he's not going to start next year. It's McCarthy's job.
That's why I think he will end up going to
Oakland excuse me, Las Vegas, because he can play.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You want to play.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
You don't want to not play, because then your career
just goes to the wayside.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
But if it was only six weeks, maybe maybe it
ultimately to Ben's hold taking a break bit. Maybe he
truly just doesn't necessarily need to play this year, because
what's the point. It's they're six weeks to go. You'd
have to learn it. In an offense, you have to.
If he's on a playoff team, you have to get
somebody hurt. Maybe it's like, if I'm going to play
for the Raiders, there's no upside there because I might
look even worse because I don't have a team around me. Right,

(13:00):
that's not going to help your career. But if you're
on a team like the Vikings of the Ravens, and
then Sam Darnold or Lamar Jackson gets hurt. At least
you're in a big spot and can feel that rush
until you sign with absolutely somebody else next year. He's
not going to be a Raven or a Viking in
twenty twenty five, right, it would just be for the
rest of this year.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I actually don't know what his thought process is. And
hear me out on this if you want to. If
you're asking yourself, because he is what late twenty.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Six problems somewhere in that range.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Let's just say that he has ten more years twenty seven,
ten more years potentially playing quarterback in the in the NFL,
and right now, you want to go to a playoff
team at your age and experience for what that's That's
something that a thirty seven year old quarterback says, I
want to go to a playoff team. I've never been there.

(13:52):
I want that. I want that rush. Like you're saying,
of potentially helping a team out get to a Super
Bowl and ultimately win the Super Bowl, you shouldn't in
twilight mode yet, should be you should be saying Daniel
Jones to yourself. Look, I'm gonna take a step back.
I got the release I wanted. I want to find
the best fit for me. I want to find the
best fit for me going forward to be a quality

(14:14):
starting quarterback in this league. You go to a playoff team.
Playoff teams have quarterbacks, playoff teams don't need quarterbacks. Essentially,
you pretty much locked in at least this year next
year for whatever quarterback that you have. Now, again to
Schefter's point, we all know that we have a bridge quarterback,

(14:34):
But did you forget that we have JJ McCarthy. Like
he's a bridge quarterback until we get McCarthy healthy and
he takes over for the next fifteen years. Like that's
the thought process, that's the idea. So your stop in
Minnesota is really just a few weeks just to maybe
sniff what a playoff organization feels. Like, dude, you're you
should be thinking about I want to find the quarterback

(14:56):
in the system or the quarterback coach and the system
the offense that fits me for the next ten years,
not just a I just want to go to a
playoff team and just like have fun on this playoff ride.
Like you're being very shortsighted about this whole thing. I
don't know why we're him in and hawn about Daniel Jones. Well,
we all know that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be our

(15:17):
quarterback next year. I heard I heard some talking heads
say that too, and I'm like, it's like these people
that cover the NFL don't think any deeper than just
the act of roster like it. It's funny that people
forgot that we drafted our quarterback of the future. Just

(15:37):
because he's not front and center doesn't mean that we
don't have a plan. And then whoever floated that out
there that that we're going to sign Aaron Rodgers, like,
just shut up, shut up, Like you guys are just
bringing all this undo, unnecessary drama into the our organization.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Yeah, Kosi's having lunch with JJ every Thursday and they
break things down.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
That was a storyline.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah, so let's bring her in Rodgers in. God idiots,
Michael J. Musman the Third is here, Ben Leber is here.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Sauce, would you like to walk us through sports on weekends?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I would love to do that.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
That would be great.

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Speaker 2 (16:57):
Hey, Ben, Yes, sir Andrew Van Ginkle is a tall
some bitch.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I know, isn't it big? I mean, because you're bigger
than me, but everybody is. But you're standing beside him,
and I'm like, wow, he's even bigger than Ben's a
huge man, big dude man.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
So so must can attest to this? Because must you?
You do your deal with all these Vikings players and stuff. Yep,
and uh so. I had Brian O'Neill on my show
last Monday. Is a monster and you you absolutely forget
until they're standing next to you like you're a giant human.

(17:35):
It's ridiculous. You just keep standing up.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
You're like you are huge, huge dude.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean O'Neill. I think he's I think he's listed
at six six, he feels more like six seven.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Huge man, No, he's he's a monster. Brendel's a big dude.
Brendell's a huge guy. I mean, and it's it's insane
because when you see him on the field, they're all
big guys, so you don't really like, right, yeah, So
then you're standing next to him and you're just like,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, and your point is one of those people too.
Have you stood next to Van Gankle? I have not yet.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
I can't wait because I want to see the locks.
I gotta see that hair cloud.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I like that guy. Yeah, I like that dude.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I love I love his contrasts and personality. I love
just how like soft spoken and understated he is, and
that he's just a freaking monsters.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
He frustrated yesterday, Yeah, because that kid just kept turning
and swiveling those hips and they'd be gone.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
God, that's got to be frustrating as a linebacker, right.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Oh, you're straining and you're like exerting so much energy
and you know you're using up all these setup moves
to get to the quarterback and then you like something
finally works and you clear whatever blockers in front of you,
and then the quarterback just goes and just like gets
out of it. Yeah. Over the years, I know it's tough.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
That's why you got to enjoy every sack, because you know,
that's why you know the floor words I've never been spoken.
That's that's why I think Grenard was like, okay, I'll
take it. You know, I'm getting held up way but
two guys and he's hold on the ball for ten seconds.
I'll just go ahead and take this.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Ya.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
That was the weirdest looking sack. Yeah, because even Grenard
was like, wait, he still has it. Yeah, I guess
I'll have a word. Yeah, Saucea, did you have a question?

Speaker 8 (19:20):
It's not relevant now. Wasn't really a question. It was
just a statement on something I saw yesterday that I
thought was really cool. Go on, and I think it
says a lot about this team is yesterday. You know,
after every win they do the game ball bit with
koc I thought it was really neat that Brian O'Neil
got a game ball and then immediately pitched it a

(19:41):
question Berry.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I thought that was cool.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
I just think stuff like that's cool, Like you don't
see that on every team, Like he knew that, like
Questenberry might never get one of those, and he just thought,
you have it. You came in in a weird situation
on the road.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I don't know. I just and I know he says it,
but he says how much he loves this team. I
like that stuff. I think that's so sweet. On that
same vein, how about Jake McQuaid.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Yeah, how about that? Okay, so you get to h
I missed it. So the overtime field goal? Yeah, so
Parker Romo, Oh, he runs over. Yeah, he ran over
and said it, like celebrating with everybody else. He ran over,
went to the guy who's like collecting balls, Zach, and
made sure it's like I need that yep, and then
ran it back to make sure that Parker Romo is

(20:26):
going to get that ball.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
That was pretty sweet.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Yeah, Hell's good, dude, man, What the hell is going
on with the Vikings?

Speaker 5 (20:31):
All of a sudden this year we have two now
kickers that you don't even have to remotely worry about.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
What world?

Speaker 5 (20:38):
What kind of alternate universe are we living in? Where
freaking Reikert and Romo now.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Just bang everything through. We don't have to sweat.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
There's not even a second like, oh man, this is
a kid that's it's in overtime. It's Sodier field. He's
gonna shank it. No, right down the middle, no worries
in the world. Pull your hands up. It's probably an
easy question once I say it. If Romo doesn't miss,
who do you do you keep him?

Speaker 4 (21:02):
No? No, no, you don't use a draft pick on
Reiker and then just jettison him. Okay, afterwards it's you
know again, it's like it's like Sam, Sam's gonna he's
he's a He's a bridge quarterback that's going to get paid,
hopefully pretty handsomely by some team as their starting quarterback
for the next three or four years. Same thing with

(21:23):
Parker Romo. He comes in, he's a bridge kicker. Everybody
knows it. He's just going to be here for a
little bit and hopefully he gets, you know, another opportunity
like the real kicker on like a two year contract
with somebody. So that is uh, that's the nice thing
about the NFL is like you are you want to
audition for your team, but you also want to audition
for all thirty one other teams and everybody's watching everybody.

(21:46):
So yeah, good for him. And same thing with McQuaid.
McQuaid was his chilling, you know, like, yeah, he's out
there collecting NFL checks now and hopefully he gets back
in the league and is a long snapper for somebody.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I like that guy.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, he's done very well. Yeah, you know, he and
I were teammates in Saint Louis for a year. No, no,
you were in Saint Louis. Yeah, I don't talk about it.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
I mean no, no, they don't even anymore.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Neither does San Diego. Maybe yehme to that. I don't know.
I guess I guess. So since we're just like doling
out all sorts of praise, I guess it is since
we're talking about special teams, and I guess we have
to give out praise to Matt Daniels, the special teams coordinator.

(22:37):
I mean, you are in charge of scouting talent. You
you're the one that's going around and watching the film
and doing the research to find these guys and to
bring Parker Romo in, you know, as a part of
the team. And he gets cut and're like, okay, I'm
just gonna keep tabs on this guy and bring him
back if we ever need to bring back. Then he
scouts Riker, which not a hard scout. I mean the

(22:59):
guy was just money when he was in college. But
the point is, like you have to you've got to
pitch these guys. You got to sell these to the
front office and say these are the guys that we
got to go out and get. And so kudos to him.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
But what do we say about the onside kick. Here's
what KFC said about it.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Obviously, it hit one of our guys.

Speaker 11 (23:14):
You know, you're expecting on that roller kind of play
to try to, you know, have that front line see
if they can go up and make contact and allow
the guys to get the ball. But we're gonna have
to take a look at that because you know, it's
not a high percentage play. So when you give one
up in a critical moment like that, followed right up
by you know, a big old dagger hit to get
him in field goal range.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I got to do a better job.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
We got kicked in the month. Wow right, Well I
mean we did, yeah, yeah, well played.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
We did.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
What a great and weird game for the Bear Special Team.
I mean they got the blockfield goal, they had a
muff there's themselves, and then they actually get the the
on side kick, which I don't think that was the
first one this year. I heard you guys talking about
that earlier, I believe because I looked it up last night.
So I was like, come on, how much times? Because

(24:01):
Max and I were talking about it, like, you know,
how many possible times could someone actually have a successful
on side kick? And from what I saw it was
Dallas Cowboys got the first one. That was September twenty second, Okay,
the Bucks got one in October, and then now.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
The Bears, so it's the third, yeah, on site successful
onside kick, which is still crazy.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I did like how the broadcast team on the TV side,
you guys probably didn't hear this obviously, but the TV
side was it who was it again?

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Was it Darryl Johnston?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, they were talking about how one of them was
saying something like, man, I just you know, I wish
they didn't have.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
To announce that there was onside caicks anymore.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
The surprise was part of the fun, and everybody on
Twitter's like, dumbass, this is not a surprise, Like you're
clearly no maybe.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
He meant, you know, earlier in the game. Once in
a while, it's fun to try to catch somebody not
paying attention. They surprise on the fact exactly.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
But now that you have to declare we're doing an
onside kick, it was just a really weird time to
make that complain when there was no option.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
And there's no surprise, you're clearly lying situation.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Everybody knows that you're gonna on side kick.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
I do.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I understand, yeah, where they're coming from. Where If you're
going to kick the ball off to start the second
half and you want to do a surprise on side
you have to now declare that you're going to kick us,
you know, but don't.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
You You can't do it until the fourth quarter and
you have to be behind, right Isn't that the rule?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Is that the rule? I believe that if that's the case.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
But that's another another little bullet point in the This
whole kickoff thing sucks.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's the worst.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
It's it's just got to end. It's not good. Nobody
likes it.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I think it just needs to be tweaked. I don't mind.
I don't mind the setup of it, but you have
to make it more You have to penalize the kicking
team a little bit more or that, I'm sorry, the
receiving team if the ball goes into the end zone.
So because because they're the touchback rule needs to be
like adjusted to where they just it's not it's not

(25:56):
advantageous as to like take the take the ball and
kneel down, right, you'll get it at the thirty. They
should they should do it where you should incorporate more returns,
Like you should incentivize more returns because as it is
right now, there's not really an incentive almost none at all,
Like I'll just kneel the ball down and just get
the ball, you know at what twenty five? Get it

(26:19):
at thirty to thirty?

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, because it went from the twenty five last
year too, yeah, the thirty this year.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
So yes, they should they should move it back. Yeah,
I agree, Yeah, it's the fifteen. Sure, put it on
the one. Yeah, really interesting, you'd get a lot more
returns that way.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, ready, Paul, Yeah, yeah, I've been ready Deddio.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
A lot a dead air. Interesting time for.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Fan five on the Power Trip presented by All Around
Property Preservation.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Hey Max, so Hey, what up? Suzzi?

Speaker 8 (26:55):
The Wolves lost one oh seven, one oh five to Boston.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
They are that is correct, Rosie and had twenty eight.
They've lost five of seven.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
They battle the Rockets tomorrow at Target Center at seven
in one of those in tournament games.

Speaker 9 (27:11):
Yeah, under normal circumstances, you'd say, hey, Wolves spot hard
against the reigning champs, best team in the NBA arguably
and barely lost at the end. Came down to a
final shot that nas Reed missed. Nasried has been pretty
brutal over these last couple of games, but they've already,
this early in the season, they've lost that grace that
you can give them because they've lost so many bone

(27:33):
headed games against really bad teams. So you can't give
them that grace anymore. There is no moral victories at
this point in the season. They got to figure out,
figure it out, and they got to figure it out quick.
Doesn't really help that Houston's been playing well this season,
but man, the Timberwolves just they are so inconsistent. I mean,
at one point they were down by almost twenty in
the game, they make a furious comeback at the end,

(27:55):
and they just I mean, they just let Boston kind
of just walk all over from the defense is not
really there. They have no defensive identity. I mean, how
many threes did Boston hit? Twenty one threes? That's just
ridiculous and you're not gonna win a whole lot of
games giving that up. That's kind of Boston's calling card.
But yeah, this Timbles team, they still have yet to
find their identity and they got to find a quick man.

(28:15):
They're a five hundred team. It's just a really disappointing
start to the season, and.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Most seasons they start five hundred to go.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
Okay, all right, Timboleves are hanging in there, but coming
off of the Western Conference finals run that they had,
it's just a really disappointing season and they got to
find their identity pretty quickly here because it doesn't get
easier for.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Them in the Western Conference.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's way more hilarious than we even thought.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
Zacho, the two best teams in the ANHL will go
at it tonight at seven o'clock. But the good news
is we found out yesterday from Michael Russo that caprisof
avoided major injury and is day to day.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, thank goodness.

Speaker 12 (28:51):
A lot of concern there, of course, we have a
concern for Zucarillo still Hopefully he will be back sooner
than later.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
But tonight it's going to be a big one.

Speaker 12 (29:01):
Hopefully they can keep up with all the injuries and everything,
and well we'll have a really good sold.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Out Excel Center tonight, wild and Jets. Sweet.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
The Gophers lost twenty six twenty five on Penn State
on Saturday on the road.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
No, you're at home. The Gophers are six and five.
We're always on.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Oh okay.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
Well, they will finish the regular season this Saturday at
eleven A. What's up Pete against the Badgers. It's pre
game at nine. Now. The Gophers are currently two point underdogs.
He's not perfect at the five and six Wisconsin Badgers.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
He's the solution. So this is at Wisconsin, he said, Yeah,
on a Friday that's always in his eyes. Eleven AM
kick Tommy Black Friday at Wisconsin.

Speaker 8 (29:47):
Yep, right, yep. Pregame at nine. The pregame follows us
live from the Mall of America. Right, Gophers past, that
is correct. Paul Week twelve at the NFL ends tonight
with the Harbob with the Rabu at the Chargers. I
thought about this this morning, and I don't know why
I think about stuff like this. Think of all the
work the in arena people had to do the second

(30:10):
that game ended last night in La these football.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, yeah, stripping that feel down and repainting all that stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
The Ravens are two and a half point favorites. Game
time is seven fifteen and I think that will be
on the plus which is one O seven point nine. Yes, correct,
So yeah, and then the Vikings one thirty to twenty seven.
Thank you Caleb for the great game yesterday.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Vikings News is next with former Vikings linebacker Ben Leber
and Michael J.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Musman.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
The third Jonathan Grinnard, joined US tomorrow around eight to forty.
We can ask him about his nine and two squad,
but Vikings News after this.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Hey, good morning everybody. It's almost Christmas. You know, Thanksgivings
this week.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh and don't forget, by the way, if you've not been,
or I mean if you have been, thanks, sure you
head on down to I should say, on up to Duluth.
To go to Bentleyville Place is badass. If you need
some Christmas in you. The entire harbor of Duluth is
blowing the annual tradition of Bentleyville kicked off for the

(31:25):
twenty first year, more than six million lights on display.
The best part it's free for the entire family. Here's
Nathan Bentley, the executive director. So this is no place
like Bentleyville.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
For the holidays, everyone is to the same. Everything is
free here, free coffee, cookies, hot chocolate, marshmallows. Every child
that's a ten and under that visits Santa Claus receives
a brand new winter hats in a veg of cookies.
And there isn't events like that. So that's what makes
Bentley one of the unique things sit in the state.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, thirty eight Nights of Christmas.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
J Chris Walden up there right best.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I would say bell Bank.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
What time will that be?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Think in December? Maybe the eighth or seventh or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Let me see maybe the sixth, maybe the sixth, play
sixth Christmas tunes they do it?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Did they do it in the park or canal or Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's right there on uh you know where they do
the concerts right there? Yeah, right by peer b there. Yeah, exactly,
that's right. So you can't if you haven't been, buddy,
I have not freaking awesome. It's just it's like it's
it's the most Christmasy thing you could possibly do.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
It'd be awesome.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Ill where my Minnesota wild double zero Griswold on the
back jersey? Yeah yeah, check it out. It's one of
my favorite gifts I've ever been given. Yeah, my kids
and my my wife got me that years ago. When
did he play they get you as a going?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Yeah, double zeros for black hoping?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Please go out of here's your hat? What's your hurry? Wow?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Anyway, BeO go check it out. It's Christmas and everybody
needs a little Christmas.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, Christmas whale?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Thanks man? Oh you hated it earlier this morning?

Speaker 4 (33:11):
No, I just said hate Christmas.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
He said it earlier today, rather be sat on fire.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
You've been taking it out of context context thing. You're welcome. No,
you said it meat sauce man lives. I said, I
don't like the c m A Christmas. Why don't you
like the CMI Christmas?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
He said he didn't like to Christmas on fire?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Then watch that?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Why were those the only options Christmas? So that's right
what he got against Trisha Yearwood.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
The only kind of Christmas music I like is Andy Williams.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Uh Nat King Cole exact same songs and Barbi Stris,
I can't.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Wait for this breakdown when you're doing Christmas cool, want
to wait?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I can't wait till you're doing Christmas with a little
baby boy and you gotta you gotta like it all.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
No, but yeah, I like, uh, I don't like that
kind of Christmas music. I just like you don't like
country music. That's what you're saying. Basically, they're the same
damn songs, but you just same songs. You hate country music.
I was just tired of seeing the commercial.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
He was just trying to give Corey an e.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Corey gets an e country music stars from.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
If he truly was doing it for me, he'd have
six grammatical errors and it would be screenshotted by about
half the Twin Cities and then either emailed to me
or a direct message to me saying, saus screwed up again.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Here's another spell check, and I'm going, yes, I got
one really good one in the hopper, but I it.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Just sometimes it takes a long time. No, from like
a week ago. You had one of the al timers.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
An all time one yesterday, but I deleted it real quickly.
Damn it.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Nobody sent me the screenshot. You must have found it
immediately about eight of them.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Dang, it's something on the Power Trip presented by Righto.

Speaker 9 (34:57):
Benjamin.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I have a question.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, I heard a lot of people, Chris Paul Allen,
there were a lot of people pregame predicting TJ.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Hockinson was going to have a big game against the
Chicago Bears.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah, first half that that prediction looked like it was
going to come up short. Second half and overtime they
couldn't stop him. So what was it about the Bears
defense that looked like on paper TJ was going to
have a big game? And then what did they do
differently in the second half that made that happen? Because
he was awesome from halftime basically on.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
You know, obviously they they saw something. The way they're
working their safeties and the safeties it seemed like they
were just they were just paying attention to the receivers.
Nick all right, Well, if you guys are going to
pay special attention and put eyes on those guys, well
then then we can find even in a zone situation,
we can find where Hockinson can get to that soft

(35:51):
spot of the defense, and you know that that one
play that was towards the end of the regulation the
four fourth quarter on third down where Sam he gave
him it was almost like a little bit of like
a double move, like a little bit of a as
the kids would say, a little heavy and he dropped
it in for thirty five yards like that to me

(36:12):
was I think at the time, the play of the game,
because we needed to go down and score and get
up by two scores there, and on that third down
they dialed up exactly what they wanted to do and
they found them the mismatch where he got past that
linebacker and then there was just nobody in that little
void there. So clearly it was a great adjustment. And

(36:34):
you know, whether it was intentional to sort of unleash
Hawk later in the game, I don't know, but good
good bye our staff at halftime to come out and say,
all right, we're just gonna make these little adjustments and
find these little soft spots. And then when we had
to make some plays late in the fourth quarter in overtime,
he was dumb man, Brian.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
And Neil said to you something that I caught in
your interview when he was talking about Howkinson saying that
you know, he's just coming back, he's still getting used
to being in game shape. Is there anything to that
when it comes to Hawkinson?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
You know maybe maybe. I mean there's there's always the
conditioning part of it, and then there's always just the
the mental processing, the speed at which you have to
play that you you miss when you're injured for so long.
So again, it's sort of like when when Reisner was
talking about last week, he's like, oh, yeah, like my
first two series, we're not that good. He's not getting

(37:28):
a lot of practice time at full speed. You're not
getting training camp, you don't get the preseason games. You're
just like just going right out there and it's full
speed and you've got to process, you know, going one
hundred miles an hour. So I think, of course it
takes a little bit of time to get back into
that game flow and that game conditioning.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Ben with Hawk going off and Hawkinson yep, yeah, yep yeah,
with one hundred and fourteen yards off of seven reception
you were really really good right up the seam. You're
very good with your seane. Thank you eight receptions for
of course Addison one p. Sixty two, What a great game.
How many games, do you think that Justin Jefferson is
going to have to go through before teams just go okay,

(38:06):
we can't just get destroyed by everybody else. I mean
that twenty yard reception was huge for Justin Jefferson. But
oh that was huge. Yeah, he had the one reception
for seven yards.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah leading into that, yeah, correct, And you know the
ball placement on that was was perfect, you know on
that twenty yard reception. So you know, I would say
going into this next week, I think Arizona's going to
have to get much more creative with when and where
they pay attention to him. Because really, up to this point,

(38:40):
if I'm trying to recall and unmust you're better at
this time, Jacksonville, nobody really stepped up and had a
huge game. No, Tennessee, nobody really stepped like not to
the magnitude that Addison did yesterday. So I think it'd
be different if if there was a string of three games.
I mean, this is a this is going all the
way back to the Lions game where I think they

(39:00):
really took away Justin if if at any point in
that time we made the adjustment and Addison stepped up
and was like Okay, Addison's had three games of one
hundred yards receiving, then it would be like, okay, guys,
you got to you gotta start, you know, getting more
creative with who you're gonna double here. I think after
this game, I think Everybrady's on alert now, Like with

(39:20):
with Hawkinson late in the game and now now Addison,
you can't just double team justin all the time.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Well, and like you mentioned with Jacksonville and then Tennessee,
I think it had a lot more do to do
with Sam. Darnold was just still trying to throw the
ball into spots that just like he's triple covered, why
are you throwing it to him?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Kind of thing?

Speaker 7 (39:42):
And then so finally the message got to him from
KOC was just like, listen, there's so many other people
out here, you know, we hit him when we can.
And then you could even see in yesterday's game, as
I was watching it on TV here in the studio,
you could see at one point KOs went over to
the bench and I don't know what he actually said,
said justin Jefferson, but you could just tell it was

(40:04):
just kind of a hey man, just you know what
to stick with it. We're gonna need you at some point,
but stick with it because everyone else is open. Yeah,
because they're putting so much coverage on you, and eventually
they're gonna have to stop doing that.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Yeah, And I think I think this is probably the
game where defenses start making that adjustment and we get
and we get back to much more production, much many
more targets and not for like you said, not forced
targets to justin.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Yeah, why did the run game work so well yesterday?

Speaker 5 (40:33):
And you could argue for a lot of ways that
that might have been Aaron Jones's best game of the year,
just simply on the ground. It seemed like every time
he touched the ball he was getting five plus.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Well, that was a little bit of a debate and
how good their run defense was. You know, I think
a lot of people are trying to give them respect
because the last week against Green Bay they got gashed
early in the game, but then like kind of short
everything up. But if you go back to the previous
game against the Patriots, the Patriots really gashed them as well,
So they're there were opportunities in there, and they've shown

(41:02):
vulnerabilities in the run game, specifically on the edge. They
their edge guys are very good, but they're also very aggressive.
They want to get upfield. And that's what New England
did was they just sort of influenced those guys. They
had these kind of sort of wham blocks, these wind
back plays where you know, if you can picture a
tight end or or a fullback on one side of

(41:23):
the formation and then goes all the way across the other
and they kick out that end. Well, New England was
doing that just time and time again. And because those
guys were strying to get up field so far when
they'd see the guy in front of them down block,
they weren't. They weren't collapsing down. They were going up upfield.
So I was hopeful that we could do a little
bit of that. But they kind of like they did

(41:44):
stop at a little bit of that against Green Bay,
So there were opportunities there. I think. I think they
are a little schizophrenic on their run defenses. If you
had the right scheme and you could tack them the
right way, you could win on those edges. And that's
kind of what we did early in the game.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Even cam Akers look dynamic when he was in there
for three or four runs.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
He runs so smooth like, yeah, yeah, he's good.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Butter man, it's snowing, guys, Oh.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Oh god, it is dance geez some country music. I
know Christmas songs playing right now.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
He sauce. I know you hate Christmas.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I don't. I just don't want to watch that garbage
on TV. Your lips chap.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
It looks like you have lipstick.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah they are, they're very chapped.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
How am I doing my mustache anymore to cover up
my lips?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's why your lips are chapped, because you don't have
a mustache.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, that doesn't make it. Does It's like a little greenhouse,
so nice because it covers out and you're not as much. Yeah, yeah,
you've been doing it. Look like flips. It does look
like you have just yeah yeah, yeah, glam it up.
It's roll out that freak flag. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Just in the last week you've shaved your beard and
added lipstick. I just think you're changing look right before
your son shows up? Bold choices?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Does it bother you, hugs that I may have lipstick on?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Well, I have a saying that.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
He say it. I know exactly what you're gonna say.
This is about David.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Now, it's about my dipstick again, this is about David Woody.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
So why would your mustache though, protect your bottom lip
from being chased?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, that makes sense, protect your bottom guys.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Now he's self conscious. Now he's covering his mouth.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Yeah, you look like the females gremlin from Gremlins.

Speaker 9 (43:39):
Too when she puts lipstick on.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh my god, he's right.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Pull your hands up. What a great song?

Speaker 6 (43:47):
What hawk would he bang the gremlin from Gremlins too?

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, this is just terrible.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Yeah, the worst, the worst.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
This isn't bad.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
I just don't want to spend a second watch.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I'm so sorry that your television as one channel.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Did you watch any of it? No, it's on this week.
I'm not watching that trash? Is it just because of
the promos they were running that it was constant? I
don't care. So you hate that, but you loved Wicked?
Wicked was great? You hate he hated it. I didn't
hate it.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
I really really wish I would have watched it in
theater instead of a movie theater?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
What I'd rather?

Speaker 6 (44:29):
He wants to see the Broadway?

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Broadway?

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Yeah, gotch much rather have watched it that in that
kind of realm.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I would probably enjoyed it. The movie is incredible. In
line one line is very bad.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
There's there's about a half hour they just didn't need,
and it was a long movie.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Thanks, I can't help it. You've been eating fistachios.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
It does look Why do you keep puckering though?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, his hawk makes me I'm making.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Eight o'clock hour. Next Power Grim Wanting Chilling the Fan

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Run off, The Red Lipped Reindeer over there,
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