HR. 2 - Legitimately

Hawk has the news featuring a story about a very attractive murderer, the debate on Sam Darnold continues with Ben Leber breaking down what he thinks is best for Sam's future

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, welcome Aparture Morning Show. It's all come together now.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're gonna slow it down or what Zichus Musk is
coming in? You get play at Bluegrass.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
You're trying to keep him down, you know, Chris, he
gets all pumped up and hard to handle him.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well, speaking of down, can we quickly do an update.
We have one week to go in the Charts Challenge
and Zach still gets to go to nights.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
He has Chase Brown. But Chris, did you see the
week that you put up? I have no idea you
and Kyrin.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Williams, who had a couple of touchdowns and a bunch
of yards, you had twenty one. You won the week
so far with that was Zach Still the play tonight.
So here's what we have with one week to go
plus Zach tonight, I have two twenty four sauce. You're
in second now because Parish had a disastrous game one.
You have one eighty seven. Yep, Parrish has won seventy seven.

(01:10):
Chris a little solid. We got a Bjeon Robinson with
the Falcons because he got in the end zone. He
has one seventy five. But Chris, you had twenty one
points with Kyron Williams. Nice, so you are sixteen ahead
of Zach. But again, Zach plays tonight and then next
week he has Chase Brown the name. But you're just
fourteen behind Creesel, just sixteen behind Parish, so both of

(01:35):
them are within striking distance. Sauce, you're twenty six ahead.
You've got to feel pretty good unless you get a
first quarter injury and something crazy happens. Yeah, but Zach
is sixteen back of you, but he's thirty back of
Kresol with two weeks for him to go. So Zach's
in gigantic trouble. He needs a monster game out of

(01:55):
Chase Brown against Zimmer's defense in Springfield, you said, Oregon, Yes, Zach.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Correct me if I'm wrong. But have you gotten the
last pick the last two weeks?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
No? Maybe not you, Rocky.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So Chris put the you're putting the pressure on a
little bit of late push by Chris is going to
make it interesting in the final week for at least
cres in Parish.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
In big discounts from cultivated CBD coming up here to
the mast. Well, yeah, so that's great. So man, Yeah,
I got lucky. I finally got an early pick and
got a good player, so I'll take it mane.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, and Saucer, your guy scored devon a change, scored
almost a chan excuse me, I scored almost immediately and
I'm like, uh oh, and then did nothing the rest
of the game.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
He had eight points in the first drive, yep, and
then that was about it for the rest of the way.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I didn't do the weather because I wasn't prepare for it.
Today's forty one, Tomorrow twenty seven, Wednesday twelve high on
Thursday seven fantastic, and then Friday twenty one, Saturday and
Sunday thirty two and thirty six week right, that's right, Yeah,
thirty seven on Monday.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
By the way, the last reason I brought that up
to charge challenge up is because Ben, you're here, and
so Ben, if it ended right now, The bat Boy
on Twin Cities Live sometime this spring before he has
to go to the Saint Paul Saints game and be
the bad Boy dressed as bad Boy would be Zachary Halverson.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Hell, yeah, you have to.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
You'd have to do an entire segment you and Elizabeth
interview him straight faced.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
He has to keep a straight face impossible, and you.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Got to interview him about I don't know whether it's
white bear Lake or hockey, who knows, but it's a
serious interview. And he is not allowed to break. You
are not allowed to break. I trust you and Elizabeth.
And he's going to be dressed as bad boy for
twenty four hours.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
It's going to be the best. It's going to be
the best. It's gonna be the best. Jach Elverson kfan. Yeah.
And do we have the makeup artist?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And yes, yeah, that's part of it is you have to,
you know, pay for a professional job.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
You got. You can't half ass this.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
No, no, I mean, I guess Zach is allowed to
beg for somebody to do it for free. But either way,
he has to he has to coordinate it. He has
to make sure that it happens.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I must. Yes, that is the.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
First full ass.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I must. Hi, guys, what's going on? You know?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Things are happening?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
Awesome. We're eleven and two. Are you kidding me? There's
nothing to complain about.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
It's outstanding.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
Sorry, I'm not You're not wrong though with the four sacks,
thank you, But then again, the team also had five
sacks the week before, so maybe they found something.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's died out of their ninety Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
But you know, at some point sometimes things just click.
I'm more concerned about how many how many yards were
giving up on the ground last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think I'm concerned about is where I'm going to
be staying for Super Bowl Week.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
You don't I don't think you have to worry about it,
do you know?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I don't know. You know, I want to make sure,
you know I get backups.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
You're the road producer.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
It's too early to ask for a press pass right
for the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Probably, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, I couldn't put the request.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
Yeah, you just go ahead and do it. Who do
I text Abbot Bob Hagen? Oh, he would gladly do
it for Hawk. How would that work? Just to like
hypothetically talk about it. It's a neutral site? So is
that a home game for us or an away game?
How would you an Abbot figure that out?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I would guess we would both go, Yeah, you'd both. Gee,
that's what I would take.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
How many NFL players, according to DraftKings right now, have
a better chance of being MVP than Sam Darnold. Name
the guys that are on the list ahead of Sam.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
For m VP. Josh, Josh Allen and Josh Allen are
the top two.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Josh Allen is the favorite, Sea is second, Lamar Lamar
Jackson is.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Tied for third, Jared Mahomes got Jared.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Goff is tied for third, and then Patrick Mahomes is
technically fourth. Slash fit So that is the correct answer,
you guys got them all. Josh Allen's the favorite. Then
Saquon Barkley then tied as Jared Goff and Lamar Jackson.
Then Patrick Mahomes is forty to one, cheez, and Sam
Donald is fifty to one. So is think of the

(06:12):
season he's having. According to DraftKings, he's a two percent
chance of winning MVP.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
How crazy is this season? Four? Sam Donald? In the
Vikings crazy.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
He's got three hundred and twenty nine I'm sorry, three
two hundred ninety nine yards passing so far, twenty eight touchdowns.
If he just averages out a one seventy five one
hundred and seventy five yards in the next four games,
it's a four thousand season.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah for Sam Donald.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Greasy and that just in it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean, I think the biggest metric of the whole
thing is just him not not throwing interceptions. I mean,
you get you give, you give this offense a chance
continually without turning the ball over, whether it's a sack,
fumble or anything like. His ability to escape and not
put the ball in harm's way these last what four

(07:03):
games has been the one of the biggest difference makers
for him.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Super impressive with the twenty two of twenty eight three
forty seven and the five touchdowns, the one fifty seven
point nine rate. That's unbelievable. Awesome game. But I was
trying to think about it. I don't remember one throw
where I'm like, ooh, that's the Sam Darnald throw, Like, ooh,
you're he was so clean yesterday. It was awesome because

(07:30):
we have not had a game where he didn't have
one of those. Ah, that one easily could have been
picked to steal in some trouble there.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Yeah, go ahead, sauce. Can I make a preposterous statement.
I'm sure the Donald avoiding the sack and throwing that
ball down to Justin Jefferson is one of the better
plays a Vikings quarterback has ever made. Because that's a
zero blitz. They are all in to kill him, and
I know the secondary just fell apart in all those situations,

(07:57):
like he snaps up, he moves to his right, he
plants and just bombs it. That's one of the better
plays of Vikings quarterback has ever made.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
And I love the question that you asked Sam Donald
after the game in the locker room, where you said,
have you ever seen Justin Jefferson?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, and he goes no, yeah, Well we all saw
on the replay.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Was it was that my cues that fell down? I yes,
think so. Yeah. That freaking poor guy.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, he he was retreating so fast, he looks
over his right shoulder, doesn't see the ball, looks back
over his left shoulder, loses his feet.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
And falls down like oh god, with Addison as well.
Where he just lost where Addison wasn't where the ball was.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Man, it's a tough spot to be it.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You also had a chance to talk to Justin Jefferson,
and you guys kind of joked and he seemed to
be in a good mood about the fact that he
had not scored in the previous six games. The last
time he scored a touchdown was October twentieth against Detroit,
but he had two of them yesterday, seven catches, one
thirty two and two scores. Of course, Addison had three touchdowns.
Those two the first duo in Minnesota Vikings history to

(09:02):
each have one hundred plus yards receiving and two or
more touchdown catches in the same game. Kind of insane
that that's never happened. I know what some of the
receivers we've had, receivers that you guys Moss.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And Carter, I know, and that wasn't just like a
one year thing, like the multiple years we guys had
that passing attack.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I can't believe that it's never happened. Hich is some.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Weird one off even right, even you don't even have
to have Moss and Carter. You just have one guy
have a big game and then some other number one
receiver has a solid game. And but that's how I guess,
that's how rare it is to have four touchdown throws
in a game, just in general.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Have two players in the same game, even if they
are on opposite teams.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Do that true? Yeah? Yeah, good point, Hogs. Well what happened?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Will happened last night with the Bills game man had
all the touchdowns. My goodness, what eighty six points or
something scored.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
That was a fun game to watch.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Wow, Josh Allen is incredible.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I know, he's insane.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Hey, who did the Bills play last It was a
bit it was.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
A snow game. Yeah that was uh.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah yeah because big game and then all the
way across the country.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah right. I just I.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Almost think that they looked like the Bills early last night.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
They played Detroit on the road. I mean, not in
a stadium, No, They're just playing them on a road.
Do you think if the Bill Jackson four ninety four,
if the Bills had I can't think of a quarterback,
But if the Bills didn't have Josh Allen, they have
like two wins because that offense isn't that it's not
loaded with talent.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's all him. Yeah. I mean the thing is we
we all know this. I'm just stating the obvious here.
I mean, you say that about any any one of
those quarterbacks on that MVP list, I mean it's probably
the same thing.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
You cut cut the number of wins in half, if
not more.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, it's all about quarterbacks in the NFL, especially
dynamic ones that can make plays with their legs.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Let mean, look at ratio. There was almost a ten
to one. By the way, twenty nine touchdowns, three interceptions.
Oh really yeah, twenty nine to three.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
He's been awesome this year. Man burrows thirty and five. Yeah,
how about that?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
But how about again, I just mentioned the MVP odds, right,
Gough is ten to one, Donald is fifty to one. Right,
seems like, wow, that must be a gigantic difference. Their
numbers are almost identical. So you could say, again, if
Sam Donald just gets that ball to JJM third down
and the Vikings win and they're twelve and one, you
probably flip those two odds because again, Donald has twenty
eight touchdowns, ten interceptions. GoF has twenty five touchdowns, ten interceptions,

(11:34):
almost identical passer ratings. The only thing that God really
has on him is about four percent more for completion percentage.
Seventy two to sixty eight yards are identical. Average is identical.
Yards of game is identical. Like it, it's across the board,
the exact same stat line between goth and Donald. But
everybody's like Gof's an MVP candidate and nobody's talking about Donald.

(11:56):
But they would have been if they were twelve and
one one third down conversion way from maybe being one
of the front runners. Paul, your hands up.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Uh, playmaker wise, who has a better offense? The Vikings
are the Lions?

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
With the with the Lion's ability to run the football,
probably them, they have they have a lot more balance,
a lot more consistency. Yeah, I mean we we've gotten
a lot better running the football. And I say what,
I feel like every game Acres is getting better and
better as well. I mean when he comes into to
spell Aaron Jones, it's just like there's really no drop
off and actually gives us a little kind of a dynamic,

(12:31):
like a little jitterbug back there that can still make
some plays. It's it's just that the uh, the physicality
at which the Lions can move a defensive line on
a consistent basis, we just don't.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
We don't have that. I'd love it, but we don't
have it, especially in the red zone. We cannot run
the ball in the red zone.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, and then we have to come
up with these weird trick plays that you're just like
five yards, what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah? Yeah, I was like, how many times are we
going to throw this football round? I was like.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, that would have been in That would have been
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Speaker 4 (13:13):
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Speaker 6 (13:17):
Absolutely, I'll tell you about all of them.

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(14:11):
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Speaker 5 (14:17):
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Yeah, I can't wait.

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Speaker 3 (14:24):
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a look on her face in her mug show. She
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over here in this room. But the movie about this

(14:44):
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and she looks like a killer.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Like the Hollywood film or another Yes.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
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that woman has seen some stuff.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Hmmm, Yeah, she's fine.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
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Speaker 2 (15:07):
She she is like a lot of other different looks
the perfect assassin because she's you would never expect that.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Sort of violence out of the way that she looks, right, she.

Speaker 10 (15:19):
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no matter what the clientele is, like, you're you're got.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
One of the first links has people on Reddit comparing
her to Aubrey Plaza.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, for sure, a lot of people on Twitter side
right here in this one.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's exactly who should play her in the movie.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeh.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
The one picture also looks a little bit like Sporty Spice.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Remember Sporty Spice. What was her name? Was that one
of the mels.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I love how they made her turn around, Yeah, and
take a picture of her from who did that? She's
a murder.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
You know, just in case she runs away?

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah right, that's how I would prefer it. I want
a sexy assailant, you know what I mean, I really, brother,
you know, if if if I'm gonna be killed, if
they're gonna take me out, you know, make sure they're hot.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Well you hope it's just not in the back of
the head. You never see.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
Her whoa must has a gun to his head?

Speaker 7 (16:18):
You're too ugly for Yeah, you can't shoot me?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
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Speaker 6 (17:06):
The Wolves four game winning streak is done after they
lose one four six to the Warriors. Ant had twenty seven.
He was great in the thirty, was terrible in the fourth.
Kurry had thirty. The Wolves are twelve and eleven. They
battle the Lakers on Friday. Yeah, they got a lot
of LA teams. Me and Zacha were just talking about
this off there.

Speaker 10 (17:25):
They played Sacramento already a couple of times, the Lakers
already a couple of times, the Warriors already a couple
of times. But yeah, I just basically fell apart in
the fourth quarter. They were in they had commanded the
game for three fourths of the game, and then Steph
Curry hit one like ant hit a three pointer, I
think right at the end of the third quarter. And
then Steph Curry hit one of those vintage classic Steph
Curry like buzzer beating threes that got the crowd into it,

(17:47):
and it was kind of just an avalanche from there.
And Anthony Edwards, like you said, was pretty brutal in
the fourth quarter, and the Wolves didn't really have a
whole lot outside of that fourth quarter. So yeah, the Warriors,
they're doing amazing things, man, things that we've never really
seen in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
There running the Wolves have what an eight.

Speaker 10 (18:01):
Man rotation, seven man rotation, the Warriors are running a
twelve man rotation, right, Wow, it's incredible. We've never truly
really seen anything like in the NBA. They have over
eleven players that are averaging double digit amount of minutes,
so they're getting the most out of everybody. And Jonathan
Kamingo was great last night. Obviously, Rob Dillingham still hurt.
Would have liked to see him get in a little bit,

(18:22):
but it's cool to see josh Mine. It's it's finches
opening his mind a little bit and and unleashing the
young guys a little bit.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
So it's good to see. But it's it's the Warriors.
You can't be too mad about it.

Speaker 11 (18:33):
Their last six opponents obviously, Warriors last night, Warriors Friday,
Clippers last week, Lakers last week, Clippers again last week,
and then the Kings and then they're gonna play the
Lakers on Friday night. Here I fan so la seven
straight California teams if my white bear of mouth is correct.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Why so why the extended break? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, so since they're not a part of it, they
just gets devastated. They just scheduled play somebody else. Yeah,
somebody else that does not make it. Sorry, like the
consolation bragget. There's just no So are the teams that
have advanced are they playing in this like the next
five days. That's a hockey question, I know that's a

(19:20):
basketball question sort of on a five day break.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Well again, everybody kind of plays a game that they
weren't quote scheduled to play. It's a game that's later
in the year that gets moved. So when is the
actually Tuesday and Wednesday?

Speaker 10 (19:34):
It looks like Tuesday, the thunder and the Mavericks will
square off in the West quarterfinals, and then on the
other side of the Magic and the Bucks, and then Wednesday,
the other two teams will sort it out and everybody goes.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
The winners will all go to Vegas. Definitely a memorable night.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Saturday is the semis essentially, but those are obviously to
be determined because it depends on who wins on Tuesday
and Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Okay, so two part thing.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Real quick, It sounds like to not advance is in
the best interest of a team because you get these
longer breaks.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
At least you still do have to play the same
amount like the couple games instead.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
But yeah, you do get a little bit of a break.
You get a little bit of a break. And is
this thing already dead? This playoff thing? This is the
season playoff thing? I don't think so, you don't think so.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I think nobody cares about this thing this year versus
last year.

Speaker 10 (20:26):
I think I think it depends on who's in the finals,
and I think it worked out well for them that
it could be you know, Yannis versus Luca or possibly
Steph Curry in the mix. I think it continues to
work as long as they have the superstar players. Like
last year, it couldn't have worked out better for them
having Lebron James win the first ever NBA cut. But
if if it ends up being, you know, Houston Rockets

(20:46):
versus the Atlanta Hawks, zero people are going to watch
that game. But I think it's somewhat you kind of
see the players getting into it a little bit. I
think it's becoming and you it's becoming a thing that
fans are discussing a little bit more Like it seemed
like Wolves fans were genuinely a little upset that they
didn't make it to the second round because the Wolves bracket.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
I mean, the NBA wanted us to to go to
Vegas and we just completely blew it.

Speaker 10 (21:09):
So I do think it's starting to become a little
bit more of a thing.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
What okay, sorry, Pat zach O.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, your Wild play the Utah Hockey Club in Utah
tomorrow at eight thirty for the first time.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Utah's one two straight. But they were very bad teams
that they beat. So is that right?

Speaker 11 (21:30):
It's a Central Division collision and the Wild still on
top of the Central Division right now. Well, they're tied
right now with the Jets, but a couple of games
in hands. So yeah, tough loss on Saturday, but a
great win on Friday. The injury bug. It's going to
be interesting. Hopefully they can, you know, get a win

(21:51):
tonight and then come back home this weekend.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
One Soto in the New York Mets are an agreement
on a fifteen year, seven hundred undred and sixty five
million dollars deal. It can go up million. It's the
largest deal in professional sports history, and there is no
deferred money.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Millions and millions and millions. That's true, correct, path, That's
just that's still unbelievable to me. I think it's stupid.
The show hate thing.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
I get it because he's basically two top notch players
in one, so that at least kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
But the won Soto is amazing, but I don't. I
don't get it.

Speaker 10 (22:27):
And if you're the Yankees, you also lost out on
this generational player because you weren't willing to extend to
the contract by five million dollars they offered him I
think the same exact contract except one extra year and
five million dollars less. So it seems a weird way
to lose one of your true superstar players.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's like when you're at a sid On auction and
you're trying to bid something up for the charity and
nobody else bid and you're like, oh please machine, yeah right, please, somebody?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Didn't you outbid yourself on that?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
To be fair? I was wasted? What did you pay
for that? Way too much?

Speaker 5 (23:00):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I can say it now? Twenty five hundred dollars? Yeah,
that's right and some cheese?

Speaker 5 (23:05):
What else is this Juan Soto contract? Exactly? Like women?
This is uh?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
How's that pet?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
You elaborate because this is like pain a lot of
money for uh. I can't think of it, and I thought,
is it exactly?

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Lie?

Speaker 11 (23:29):
The Metrodome was built in u for one hundred and
twenty four million, by the way, somebody tweeted yesterday and
it was brilliant. That's four hundred million today, so it's
still still the Twins wouldn't have done fifteen million for
seven hundred and sixty five years.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
That is a good line.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, who said that? Somebody on Twitter? It
was super funny. I love body.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
The Golden Girlfell men's basketball team, Hogs Daddy Battles Indiana.
Tonight in Indiana five thirty, the Hoosiers are ten and
a half point favorite Squishy.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
That great word, I have no our buddy boy, Parker Fox,
somehow great it is to play in that arena?

Speaker 7 (24:15):
I'm sure it is.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm sure it's fun.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Have you been there never?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I've driven by a bunch of times that count.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
It's like must with the lions Den. Yeah, oh, driven
by it a lot. Yeah, it's never been in it though,
just driven by it a time, right, Yep, he's not
coming back? Yes? Is it exactly? Like? What else? Is
what exactly?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like Chris driving by the arena but never going in
and must kind of like the lions Den going.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
By where you want to? Okay? What I was like?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Uh, Zach driving by a chippen Nails and not going
in Maya cons what else did exactly? It's like you
driving by Victoria's Secret and mean like I have all
that stuff, I don't need to go in there.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
What else?

Speaker 6 (24:58):
It's like Hawk driving by a casino and pretend to
waive it everybody but saying that he didn't go in,
even though we all know he went into the casino?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Was with what else? Is it exactly literally heard that
that angle this year.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
We haven't heard much about you avoiding casinos on the
road this year.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I don't on the road.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, right now, that's what I I don't have any
problems with it.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
I just well, we don't. We haven't been anywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Right, there's not been anywhere to go with the casinos.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
There's always a casino within driving distance if you're willing
to drive, if you're willing to and I'm not. Yeah, yeah,
are there casinos around Seattle?

Speaker 12 (25:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, I mean you could drive sixteen sixteen seventeen hours road.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Again, I'm just gonna be honest with you. There is
one in Seattle, but it's a long taxi ride. And
I've taken that taxi right and it's out into the
middle of nowhere, and you might.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Be getting Seattle. You can see it, but you can't
get there.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, that's the worst travel around your hands, sweetheart. Was
your yag machine A three bottle one?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
That's right. Don't even tell me how much this was
because I did.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
It for Cherry. It's for Cherry, get for the kids.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I'm putting her through college.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
You can get one on eBay for eighty five dous.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
No you can't.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, no, you can't. It's probably not the same quality.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
No, it's not the same quality.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Yeah, no, eighty five?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well good, Well, you know what, I'm sure that it
was good for the chariot. It was good for the charity.

Speaker 11 (26:24):
You can't write that eighty five off write the I
don't even know what it can do for that.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I can tell you where it's all an hour?

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Where is it my storage unit.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
The Golden Gopher football team will play Virginia Tech on
January third and the Duke Mayo Bowl on the road.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Again. Pat will be there.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Game time is a six thirty pre game I would
assume is at four thirty right here on the fan.
The Gophers open as a four and a half point favorite.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
PJ. Are you excited to get some Mayo dumped on you?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Again?

Speaker 9 (26:56):
It's a great tradition. This is what college football is
all about. You have a little bit of these these
quirks that that come out based on who's sponsoring it
and the traditions they have. And I think it's tremendous
if we're lucky enough and unfortunately to win the football game.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Absolutely make it double, Yeah, make it a double.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
It is one of those great traditions, one of the
one of the coaches that wins the national title, right,
will hoist the national Championship trophy and our guys going
to have Mayo dumbed on them. Yeah, tradition, very very
similar thing. Yeah, it's going to be the same kind
of like, wow, this is tradition.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Remember the original was win one for the Mayo.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Yeah, they make it thirty for thirty about that, I mean,
because it is such a tradition, you really want to
highlight that.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Tommy wishes the eligibility left.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
I hate so much. I don't think I'll even be
able to watch the game just because Mayo's in it.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Isn't there Like the pop Tart bit, We're like, oh,
that's actually kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
The pop part mascot goes down into the giant toaster.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
At the end of the outcomes and then you hear
unbelievable tradition. I think it goes all back to like
nineteen twenty seven or something, pop tarts of the Yeah,
back when Mayo was Yeah, back when Mayo and pop
tarts were a real big thing.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah, I mean, it's a tradition like no other it's
what's your favorite kind of pop tart?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Core? Brown sugar maker?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Bad girl good?

Speaker 5 (28:24):
What is that? A doc and lyric?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
No, rolling stone, brown sugar untoasted, right out of the pouch,
don't throw it in the tow. Psycho ice called a
psycho ice cold?

Speaker 5 (28:37):
They're Good's wrong with you? No he does that?

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Oh yeah, nothing like a brown sugar pouch, right, corps
one hundred percent my favorite kind of pouch.

Speaker 11 (28:46):
I would I legitimately gagged the last time I tried to.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Cory is legitimately gayns excuse me, illegitimately.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
You found the picture story? How did you know? Corey
came out? He told us what kind of pop tarty light?
It's code on the message boards.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
And if I like brown sugar pop tarts out of
the poach cold, you know what that means?

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Put your head. That was the bat signal for Tommy.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
He knows now, Oh yeah, that's not the toe tap
underneath the.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Same stall wall.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
A lot of times when I'm at the MSP bathroom, motusco,
anybody want to colds brown sugar pop tart?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
And the line just forms yep, and this show's dumb.
Viking's news is next that'll be better.

Speaker 10 (29:40):
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sauce at Malone's Tomorrow night for Coors Light a hockey
night at six thirty pm, watch Minnesota take on Utah
while playing hockey trivia for your shot at sweet tickets
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Speaker 5 (30:02):
At campaign dot com. He word calendar.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, hey, good morning once again, welcome back Patrick Morning
Show seven forty seven, and it's time for some Vikings news.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
As if we haven't done that all morning already.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
But the more the Mary, the more we can do it,
the better because our team continues to win.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's just unbelievable. Vikings News on the Power Trip presented
by Carenco.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And luckily we have the man that met the legend,
Ben Lever and the other man himself. Mike must be sounded. Yeah, yeah, no,
you're right, you're the other man.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, but uh, here's koc on what has changed with
our quarterback since a bad showing in Jacksonville.

Speaker 12 (30:50):
What it was is that, in my opinion, was an
incredible growth moment for him to then just come right
back the next week and start stacking some things that
are kind of leading into a layered kind of success
type approach, which is what happens to a lot of
quarterbacks in this league, especially the ones that their trajectory
is over the course of the season or their careers

(31:11):
is point in sky high. They're able to stack days
and this day will be something that he can build
off of. I truly do believe that in our offense,
and you know, there was a lot of things that
we'll be able to really highlight of who we want
to be about as a football team that are going
to show up on this tape.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
That well, I guess I agree. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I don't know what I'm supposed to say because I'm
not on the inside, but we all appreciate whatever he did,
whatever stacks upon stacks he was doing.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
I'm in. It's working.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
He's he's playing with confidence, he's playing with swagger, and
he's playing you know, in a way he's playing safe.
He's not throwing the ball away, which is great. This
is a three or four or five part questions to
stay with me first time.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
What percentage of the credit do you give to Sam himself?
And what percentage of the credit do you give to
KOs for his re emergence.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Probably seventy percent KOC and.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Seventy Okay, So I guess that's part two of my question.
Then I'm glad you said it was that high, because
clearly Sam Donald's gonna get paid.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
From some other team.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Somebody's gonna have to worry about salary cap and all
that there is no salary cap for coaches.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
What is what does KOC get this offseason when they
worry up him?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Because if you can turn Sam Donald into an MVP candidate,
and if you're seventy percent numbers even remotely with the Vikings,
think like, wow, he's this good. He can turn Sam
Donald into an MVP candidate, then what do you give
Kevin years of thousands more than that?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Iem billions and billions, maybe slightly somewhere in between.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Millions and millions and millions? What is he making now?
Because I know quickly, where are the coaches salaries posted?
All right? Place?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Out player salaries easy, there's lots of websites for that
coaching salaries. I guess I've never really looked up that
those numbers. I know we talked about it with with
Brian Flores, like I don't want them to leave. So whatever,
whatever extra zero you need to throw in there, whatever
assistant head coach title you need to throw in there,

(33:21):
whatever gives him total control of the defense.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Just just whatever you can do.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Pay for his kids private school, give him a car
and a house.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I don't know what. Are you guys looking that up?
Do you guys find it? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Safie was right, it's five five million approximately?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, all right, So if there's to be a starter house,
if a initial NFL head coaching deal is in a
five million range, are we talking double that next time?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well, do you have a list? Do you have a
list of all the coaches on there? Like, who's the
highest paid coach right now?

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I mean, is it mcphaey? Well, I'm not asking to guess,
I mean is it? I'm asking there is We're asking Google.
You're on the website, right.

Speaker 10 (34:01):
I believe it's Andy Reid. Yeah, Andy Reid twenty million
and then Sean paid Oh who and he's making twenty million.
That's what this that's what Google search says. It says twenty,
Sean Payton eighteen, Mike Tomlins sixteen, and Jim Harbas sixteen.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
So which, honestly, which when you think about that.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
That's only a million dollars or so a game for
the teams that go all the way to the you know,
the postseason. That's that's a pretty good deal if your
coach is that good considering that the top quarterbacks are
making what closer to three.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Million a game?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Right, And that's because if they're making fifty plus, it's
three to three change per game. All right, So man,
maybe Kaos's more in that he's fourteen fifteen million dollars
range at least twelve at least all right, So here's
the third or fourth part of that question that we
were asking earlier. If if Kaos is seventy percent of
the credit Sam Darnold figuring this out for the first

(34:52):
seminist career, is the other thirty percent?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Once you get quote fixed? Right?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
If if he has been cured by Kevin o'c connell,
is that permanent? Like can he go to Cleveland or
the Giants or somebody and have this same levels of
success in a new system, just with a newfound confidence,
a newfound skill set.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
That's that that is going to be the ultimate question.
And what do you think I think that he.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I think he definitely has learned what it takes in
this in this particular system and what KOC wants. I
think that he can that is transferable. But it's difficult
to say because in of course of seventeen games, there
are going to be ups and downs, and without that
consistent voice with Josh McCowan in the in the quarterback

(35:38):
room with Koc, you know, he got to think if
I'm going to give him seventy percent of the of
that success, it's not physical, it's all the mental stuff,
it's all the emotional stuff. And I don't know, man,
I think that the NFL continually makes the same mistake
thinking that their people can fix this person, or they

(36:02):
have this ego that I can what we can do
here is going to be better than what this player
or this coach had before. So I have no doubt
that some team's going to convince themselves that, hey, what
he learned there is transferable to what we're doing. I mean,
look at Kirk Cousins and they you don't think that
his success had anything to do with the system that

(36:22):
he ran. And then this offensive coordinator Atlanta's like, we're
gonna put him in pistol and we're gonna do all
these other ridiculous things. No do what he does best,
but they continually make the same mistakes. So as much
as somebody's gonna pay for Kirk Cousins, somebody's gonna pay
for Sam Darnold and think that he's going to be
playing at the same level this year.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
So what you're saying is, no matter who signs him,
they're gonna have to adjust to Sam as opposed to
Sam adjusting to them.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I think one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yes, you when he's been in the league this many,
this many years, with this many he's played in multiple systems,
and he finds the right system that fits him, don't
try to change the play. You wouldn't put Tom Brady
in North turns offense and be like, go chuck the
ball forty yards downfield every play that's not him.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
You're at least maybe like an oc is part of
the Nickfayh tree, right.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yes, that's why why I was going back, and I
heard Sauce earlier that he correctly, you know, you know,
stated that I think the best situation for him and
for the Rams is for him to go back to
LA is as great as Stafford is playing right now,
I get it. But the guy's what thirty five, thirty.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Thirty six, I won't guess this time. And Sam is
twenty seven, So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
If you're thinking longevity, You've got a guy that is
playing in the same system at just as high level.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
It might be really hard to let Stafford go.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Now it might not because I think he's got like
sixty million on the books or something next year, which
is a crazy number. Just say, man, thanks for thanks
for everything, but go live out your twilight years with
some other team. We're going to build for a future
and pay this guy, you know, sixty percent of what
we're paying you are.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
We already sculpting the bronze statue of Sam Donald, Yeah, which.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Is all that can be done. He can win us
a Super Bowl and then he can go cash his
giant check with some other team. And we've got a
young quarterback that's going to have this open window for
the next ten years to win another.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Super Would you consider a franchise tag No next year?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, I mean you still don't know what you got
with JJ when you talk about all this, all the
all the potentials, like what draft equity, like we could
franchise and we could use him as a pawn and
then we could trade him and then we get this
draft compensation.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I guess if you want to play dirty dirty like that, fine.
I think that you let the guy go and cash
out on his success. You bring up JJ in a
way that you know, he's our quarterback.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
For the next ten to twelve years, and everybody's happy.
I think he just nailed it.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
If they didn't have anybody in the pipeline, I think
you could legitimately ask should we tag Sam and keep
him here right against his will?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
But the fact that you have JJ, it would feel
really dirty to not let him go get his long
term gigantic daloud right. I think that the players would
feel pretty pissed for Sam.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Owe him for that.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
I mean, okay, if you're talking about you know if
JJ though, no, I know, but you rebuilt his new
this guy's career, right, So doesn't he owe us and
Koc more than we owe him. As far as what
I'm saying is that, oh, let him go get his
big money, he would be wrong to not let him
go get his big money in big contract. Through all
that he got, he got a chance here and he's

(39:35):
making the most out of it.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Good for him.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
But if you know, if it's the quarterback whisper and
you got Koc here, he kind of owes us a
little bit. So if you franchise tag.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Him, who freaking could you want a guy here that
that is loving it and is thankful And now you're
going to piss him off by going, no, we're not
letting you out.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
You're stuck here. He's still going to make a ton
of money. I get it. I just I don't think
they would ever do it.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think psychologically if that happened to me, I'd be pissed.
I'd be like, what are you guys doing?

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
This was not the agreement. The agreement was I was
going to be here for one year, and we you know,
I helped groom. I'm helping groom this young player for
you guys. Show him the ropes, show them what it's
like to be a pro. And you guys are gonna
do me dirty like this and just hold onto my rights.
When I went out and totally proved that I can
be a capable starting quarterback, I would be.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Pissed, all right. So let's go back to the koc
quarterback whisper a bit.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
What if Daniel Jones is truly just here for like
six weeks, then how does that translate to him hitting
free agency? Because again, I'm I know one of the
plans is, let's see if we can get him back
here next year on a super super cheap deal to
backup JJ McCarthy if his rehab is slow or if
he's struggling or whatever the deal is. I still am
confused why Daniel Jones would want to do that just

(40:46):
a back, not be a bridge quarterback like Sam and
get in there for a year, but to come back
as a backup. Because if JJ's good, then Daniel is
going to sit the entire year. How does that get
him paid the year after that? Like, I don't understand it.
If I'm Daniel Jones, I want a starting job next year,
You're here just to learn as much as you can
before you go back into the market. Can ko c
truly help him that much by just practicing with him

(41:10):
for two months?

Speaker 5 (41:12):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I mean that's kind of the same logic that I
had when I was I was like kind of lukewarm
on the whole thing if and the whole thing is
is totally dependent on whether that he's here next year.
If he's here just for a six week quarterback camp.
We're not running quarterback camps here, Like, that's not what
we're that's not what we're supposed to be about. But
my my thought and my theory is like it all

(41:35):
works out and it's a great it's a great signing.
If he's here next year, is just the backup quarterback,
just and truly as a backup. I mean, yeah, he's
probably gonna push, you know, quote unquote push JJ a
little bit. But look, we all think that JJ. I mean,
JJ needs to start next year, hands down.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
He just has to.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
We have to see what we got out of this
draft pick. Whether or not, whether or not he has
a good preseason a bad preseason, he's got to start.
You got to see what this kid can do. And
then that's why you have a guy like Daniel Jones
backing them up, because if he does struggle a little bit,
then you then you know that you can go kind
of back and forth a little bit until he figures
it out.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
All right, help me this though.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I don't mean to cut you off because it will
stay the same path. If you paid Sam Donald ten
million to be a bridge quarterback, that was likely to
start and he did. What do you pay a reclamation
project in Daniel Jones to be the backup? If you
gave Sam ten, what would you pay Daniel Jones if
he was truly number two next year behind JJ.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Five?

Speaker 12 (42:29):
Ish?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say eight.
Oh man, I mean, you know, everything goes up. So
I mean it's I think I think the number that
you're thinking is five is probably correct, but it'll probably.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Be closer to eight with incentives.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
And the thing is, you know, if if everybody's talking
about well, it's it's a it's a total, like it's
a benefit for us, because it's gonna be you know, compensation.
If he signs here, then he goes and you know,
signs a free agent deal someplace else. You know what
has to happen for that to happen. It's like he's
going to be elevated from practice squad to active roster.

(43:06):
Then he has to find a way to get in
the game. He has to play in an NFL game
as a Minnesota Viking for there to be any sort
of calculation with this draft compensation thing. So like, yes,
you are for just a few hundred thousand dollars, kind
of like setting yourself up. But there's not a lot
of short term benefit to this thing at all. It's

(43:29):
all the long play. And if Daniel Jones is going
to be here for the next year, then it's a
great signing because he's a great dude.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
We all see the physical tools.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
He's got the big arm that Koc likes. And if
he can sign for just you know, like we said,
five to eight million dollars, it's a quality backup.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
It is crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Let's just just for arguments sake, say the number is eight.
It's crazy that Koc is coaching this year for five
and Daniel Jones might be the backup quarterback next year
for eight.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
And the value you.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Get out of Koc for five million for a season
versus what you'll get out of Daniel Jones for eight
is insane.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Well, they need to take that number five and jacket
up to at least seven or.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Eight more million dollars. Let's get to fifteen and is
that price?

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Brian Flores out if Kosi's gonna get that big of
a of a race. Do they have enough money in
the coaching pool. I know it's in no cap situation,
but do the Wolves want to cut a giant check.

Speaker 7 (44:22):
To keep Flores to the one thing we have learned
from the Wolves is that they aren't afraid of spending money.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
That is true.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
I mean you look at the same they're a good tco.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I mean, it's the one thing we've got in common, right, Yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Wolves would buy that Yag machine, three bottle Yagg machine,
four of them.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
They've only got four of them in storage right now operably.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
They want a fifth one.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Do you think Ben Lieber and Michael J. Mussman A
thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
O'clock hour of The Power Trip won't show after this?

Speaker 5 (44:45):
On the fan

Speaker 10 (44:47):
We see