November 17, 2025 • 44 mins
Hawk has a mix of serious and fun stories in the news, the gang talks Timberwolves and not the basketball team, Ben Leber does a Vikings deep dive into the struggles this year
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Supply you said snow is possible.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
That's right tonight, tomorrow's twin.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Cities, or that that's the twins the chance for rain
and chance of snow overnight. We actually have a high
forty five. I was looking at the wrong area.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh well, way to go.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So it's gonna be a little warm, but not too much,
not too much, baby, Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's the old app on my phone here basically says
like next ten days is all mid forties for highs.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, that's average. Okay, buddy, what's wrong with being average?
Nothing's wrong with it? Did I insinuate that there was
something wrong?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Is average?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, forty five forty We can't all be extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're all half less, which I will always say is.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The weirdest word of all time, because extraordinary sounds like
you are beyond ordinary.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But if you have a lot of extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You're outside of ordinary.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, you're beyond, but you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Like the level of ordinary is like five out of ten.
If you're extraordinary, you're like really a five like side ceter.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Got a good personality, so that up to a seventy
or seven.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You've been trying to sell that whole five is extraordinary thing,
your whole.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Life, one person at a time. I'm trying to convince
extraordinary extra out.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I got an idea.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
By the way, Oh Boy meets Us is back tomorrow,
right unless he dies? Right, Okay, I'm going to print
up some meat sauce bingo cards if he says, what
you know, yep, yep, right?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Is wood Hawk a free space? Some of them are
at the time, Well.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But you got to put them in different spots.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Somebody's got to get a bingo, right, somebody's gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Get a bingo.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
So at some point during the show, as if we're
playing along, one of us will yell bingo.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
My guess is five, hold your cards.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Everybody hold your cards, all.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Right, so that whales, Yes, we have a so I
have a so here's the thing, Okay, Yeah, I woke up.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
A reference to the hot boys or any of a
nineties wrap reference.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Right he named dropped Jerry's Foods and a Dina Hmm, Bingo.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Like it.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's a legitimate bingo.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Battles would be a battles just handing like a thousand
bingo cards and see who wins first.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's a sixty second game, though, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
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Speaker 3 (03:26):
So let's go okay by, let's go okay.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
A Cass County Sheriff's deputy is shot and another man
is killed near Beer Bayside Resort, Jeez up in Bomigie.
Emergency medical services stop the deputies bleeding before he was
therelifted to hospital and Fargo. The incident happened on the
Leech Lake Reservation near Walker, five miles from the Northern
Lights Casino that's.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not near Bomigie.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why does this sad? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, by the Northern Lights casino. Names of the deputy
of the man kill we're not released. Sunday night's shooting
is the second police shooting in the in the area
of Poker since August.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Holy wow, real.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
News on the power trip this morning. Thank you to
the officers for doing what they do. Jeez, Louise, I
can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I saw a police officer pulling somebody over on the
way here this morning, walking up beside somebody's car, and
I was thinking, man, that's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Especially at night.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, so I'm saying, you have no idea what's waiting
behind that one?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I know?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Could you see what happened on three ninety first, there
was about seven or eight cop cars in an ambulance.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It looked like there was some kind of it was
usually an exit right there.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, pretty significant accident of some kind on three ninety
four this morning, Because man, I drove past a pile
of lights and.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
By the way, speak of that that exit right there.
I don't know that I'm going to live long enough
to see that finished.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Nope, it's been what three months? Yeah, months?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And I'm sure they're doing it is a massive undertaking.
I got a good look at it yestery and I
was driving in here to the station. Holy moly, it's
taken forever though, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you know what
I heard on the news the other day. There's a
silver porn.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's their day.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
So they were closing down four ninety four just for
the weekend. I think they said to transition to winter traffic.
Like what does that mean? Like you just you just
shift like exits around, Like what is I don't understand
what they know or they do to get ready for winter.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like when you got to turn your sprinklers off so
the pipestone free.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Yeah, it's like do they have like hot wheels tracks
that they just like pick up things and move them around.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They'd be sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's a great question. I don't like. I please a
hockey kfan dot com. We'd like to know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, because they're going to allow those cruis to complete
utility work on the ramps.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Oh maybe I swear that we talked about I was
told something about winter getting ready for winter traffic or
winter conditions or something.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know. Oh, somebody lie to you. Quit lying
the first time quit line to bend what the man like?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
That's always blame. AI think a I did it. I
think that's what Zach just asked. Anyway, do you just
asked a iph No, I.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Iverson even though who you are?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, he knows who I am.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Gray Wolf sightings and ely are prompting a debate over
its endangered species status. By the way, I saw a
video of uh, somebody's hey gray wolf just ran by me.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I was like, cool, I clicked out. I watched it.
Now I've got nothing but wolves versus sheep dogs.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
And it's bad algorithm that those sheep dogs are badasses.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You're right, though, if you click on one thing, the
algorithm thinks, oh you like this.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's not my fault. It's everywhere, right.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So it's like, now I have all these adults and diapers,
and I'm like, I just clicked on one video.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's not all I want. Emma Smith here would depend.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And I still can't believe there's no ass on the
end of that word.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Say he learned some thing.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah anyway, Uh yeah, there's gray wolves man up in
Ealy be cool, everybody, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're so awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
They're cool. Man, they are. Just remember, they're just as
scared of you as you are of them.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I bet they're not. I bet I'm way more scared.
I bet.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
How big is a timberwolf? And I don't mean the
you know, Rudy Gobert? How is a timberwolve?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
In one? How big? Like? Are timberwolves gigantic? Actual wolves?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Is it a female?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They generally weigh between sixty six and one hundred and
forty five pounds.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Jesus, it's a ranch range. They have sexual dimorphism or
what the shorter range like?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's like a great Dane size, like hi, twenty six
to thirty three inches.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tall at the shoulder, it almost five six feet long.
That's pretty long.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know about your children.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's like a great Dane.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Where the hell are timberwolves all northern Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, where can you find?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Can Ya's target center?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well? No, there are no timberwolves in Kenya?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Uh yeah, how dare you? You don't know that? Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Just you know Canada and uh United States? We have
them in Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right? Not allowed to cross the Yeah without an enhanced
ID Is that right?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Michigan. Well, those aren't wolves. Its kind of sounds.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like wolverines are badass. Okay.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
New York Jet's cornerback Chris Boyd, former Minnesota Viking, critical
but stable condition after being shot in Midtown, Manhattan on Sunday.
The shooting happened early Sunday morning outside of a restaurant.
Rofsters found Boyd with a gun gutshot wound to the abdomen.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh no, that's not good. I know the update.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
No rest have been made. Motive remains unclear. That's the update.
That's the latest. I was he was gonna say, are
they off? I know it was he out on Saturday
morning that late.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
For two am. I played on on Thursday. It was
a first so that's why. Yeah, many buy.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He couldn't sleep, just hanging out, hadn't got time for
the pain. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I guess I don't know the answer.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
The FAA is lifting its flight reduction over order at
airports Nation White starting this morning. Reduction flights at forty
major airports began and we go to help address the
fatigue and staffing issues among air traffic controllers during the
record lard government record long government shutdown. But uh, they're
back to normal, I guess this morning.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
So is it true that during the forty some odd
days of this shutdown, like you were working, but you
are not getting paid, right, but you are getting back paid.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They are getting back paid. That is correct. I did
hear that this?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Imagine that check? It was. Yeah, that's good man, Yeah,
go feel good. They were trying not to back pay them.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh really, yes, they got to now it's happening.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well that's real.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Check went hell of a check, right, I hope so well,
I don't know, man, I'd be a hell of a job,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Or traffic controller? Yeah, yeah, get distracted eighteen people.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
We need more people to do that though. So it's
actually great.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
If you want to get into it, please do it
because we need more.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
Thanks a hell of a recruitment. Yeah, yeah, I signed.
I'm ready for Yeah, thanks Miro. Thanks for basketball coach.
You see, LA, guys, one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Most stressful jobs on the planet.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But go go into it and you'll get paid eventually.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You and Tony Robbins just so inspirational. You see l
a basketball John John the coaches is woitten inspiration.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Your favorite show.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You could crash a plane over Albuquerque right on to
mister White's uh.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, look right, you know see you you're referencing Breaking Back.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
When you said my favorite TV show, I just assumed
you meant to catch a predator, so I.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Didn't know where you were going with this. I want
to sit down. Here's the best reality TV show of
all time. It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And finally, the most pepper.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
The most popular Thanksgiving side dish in America.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Kill we guess?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh no, I almost got fired in America. Not in
my home.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
The most popular Thanksgiving side dish in America is being revealed,
according to the new survey by Campbell's Blank remains the
most popular site.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We're gonna say tomato soup is what everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They're going to say, green Bean castle role.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's got to be.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Stuffing, stuffing.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Mash Taters came in second, followed by Sweet Taters, mac
and cheese, and then green.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Bean Campbell's own. Maybe that was the no no, maybe,
maybe I'll.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Tell you what.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll take all those man, What side dishes are you
planning on having at this Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
We're gonna try some wild u uh or no, just
some wild animals.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
We're gonna do a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Of different what kind of what kind of animals?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How, well, we're gonna we're gonna try some beaver. We're
gonna try some different confections.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, timber wolves, gray wolves, wolverines, a lot of eggplant.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
To yeah yeah, yeah hmm, just a lone little anyway.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That's the news that That's right. That was good stuff.
Thanks a great job. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I gave you some some hardcore stuff and that a
little a little fun in there at the end.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, it was a it was a real potpourri, a
real cornicopia news.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Thank you, Thank you, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We'll do sports when we get back. No sauce today.
He'll be back tomorrow to.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Tell you who's going to battle who bingo.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Bank of Bears.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yesterday, thanks Captain Comedy, and they'll battle the Green Bay
Packers on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Sports.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
If it is on the Wow dude, Wow, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
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Speaker 4 (14:00):
Meetings of the words suite there it happens to be
s U I T E, but they're also sw e
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know it's bo like chocolate, the same special sports Yep.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
It's time for a fan five on the Power Trip,
presented by All Around your Timber Tech deck building contractor.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He got that right.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The uh The Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit nervous that
Aaron Rodgers broke his wrist against the Bengals. I think
it might be a slight break, Mason Rudolf, if I believe,
went in.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But now they're saying they're not quite sure what the.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Prognosis is for mister Rogers might have broken his wrist.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Mister Rogers broke his wrist, possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, rowing up, He'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Oh no, it's never good when you hear it might
be a slight break of a wrist, and he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
A slight break. That sounds super awful. He'll put a
brace on it. It's his non throwing handle, his non
throw hand. Yeah, him a time left wrist, let's go.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't know, man, did you How about that
big tight end who was like looked like a high
schooler playing with junior high kids. My god, Mount Washington, Washington, Yeah,
I remember him being big when he played against US.
It looked like he grew a few feet. He was
just throwing people around.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
It's the biggest skilled position player I've ever seen. Yeah,
ever he is. He's like when you see Wemby in
real life, You're like, that's an alien, And then you
see Mount Washington in real life with pads on, You're like,
that's an alien. There's no way that that guy should
move like that and play football on the same field
with all these other guys.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
He's got moves like Jagger Yeah yeah, yeah, loose hips, yeah,
sink ships.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Like you mentioned, Sauce didn't tweet Forrest Gump waving because
brock Perty actually played pretty.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well in a forty one twenty two win.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
However, do you see Jacobe Brissette's numbers historic and I'm
not even making that up. Historically, Yeah, forty seven of
fifty seven for four hundred and fifty two yards. But
two touchdowns and two interceptions. But the forty seven completions
for Brissett more than any quarterback has ever ended a
game in the history of the NFL in a regular
(16:21):
season game, and it ties Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He did that in twenty twenty one in a wild
card game.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I guess, so most ever completions forty seven and they lost.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
They lost by nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Dang, they got blown up. They got blown out forty
seven to fifty seven. Didn't Bryce Young throw for four
hundred two?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah? Damn near. I think something like that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And of course, now Rico Dowdle scored a late touchdown,
and of course Twitter just explodes now saying Dwattle, Dwattle again.
Put that on your Bengo car that tomorrow. Let's also
say I got eliminated from my fantasy football league because
Rico Dwaddle cost me the game. So that's a thing.
(17:07):
The Philadelphia egos. Ben last night got her done against
the Detroit Lions. All of a sudden, the Lions went
from man, they might be the best team in the
NFL and now over the last what three weeks, massive regression?
What's going on with Detroit? I mean It's not like
Philly was a bunch of world beaters last night. I
think what they put sixteen to nine, I think sixteen.
So they weren't great, but they were better than the Lions,
(17:27):
and to hold the Lions to single digits is pretty nuts.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Well, they clearly have some offensive issues. I mean, they're
Dan Campbell's now calling plays, and you know, they're trying
to replace Ben Johnson, and it seemed like it was
after the first game against the Packers, it was like,
oh boy, and then they picked it back up and
it seemed like they were doing fine, and then obviously
something was amiss internally. Dan Campbell took over and it's
(17:54):
not been good either. So yeah, man, I don't know.
I don't know what's going on with him. They seem
to be on the struggle bus. And you look at
the division right now, I mean, look at the freaking Bears,
like they're on top of the division, and they seem
like they're the team that has the most consistency with
the first year coaching staff. They seem to be the
(18:17):
most solidified right now as far as offensive weapons. Would
they the way their defense is playing, then they're expecting
actually some players to get back healthier as the weeks
go on, so like they're kind of poised to win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Alright, I need the five of you to be honest. God,
dang it, raise your hand. If you did not see
Chador Sanders' stats, so you don't know his stats. I
don't even know if you did not. So, Zach you
don't know him. Grimmer, you don't know him. Ben, you
didn't see him. So none of you, none.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Of you have seen I knew that he got in,
so I was watching the game when he was in,
but I didn't see like, so Gabriel gets knocked out
of the game, so goes, yes, the same.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Shador Sanders through sixteen passes. Okay, how many did he
complete out of sixteen?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Well, I did see the last the last drive that
he tried to like will his way back and win
the game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Because they lost twenty three sixteen to the Ravens, who
are now all the way back to five hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They've won four straight. Couple good throws in there, I'm
gonna say you said sixteen.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He threw sixteen attempts seven seven, Grimmar eleven eleven for sixteen,
Zachary ten for sixteen, Chris four four out of sixteen MAXO.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I think it was. I think it's three. Chris Nail
did its exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Four four of sixteen forty seven yards in a pick
a passing rating? Is it passer or passing? I think
the initials game host well as said pass or. I
wouldn't give it to him. But if Marnie said it, uh,
thirteen point five percent rating, what was it thirteen?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I shouldn't say percent thirteen point five rating. Yeah, that's
not good. That is not good. Not good.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
So somebody I forget the stat now, but they basically
said it's like the worst start in Brown's history for
a rookie, and it wasn't a star beat like first
initial game.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I should say, I got to be hard to be
worse than that. The highlights that I saw, he actually
looked all right.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I mean he only had four. He looks better to me,
just movement around and in competency with the football. I
can even say the word but like than Gabriel then Gabriel. Yeah,
then like he looks more of the part than Gabriel does.
There was a drop pass on that last drive, there was, yeah,
and they're two and eight again. Now it's I mean,
(20:49):
we're four and six and we're already going what do
we do at two and eight?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They have nothing to play for? See what you get?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Let the kid figure it out, especially if Gabriel has
a concussion and then you have to go to Sanders.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We have to, yeah, which would be kind of fun.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Which will be a lot of eyes, a lot of
eyes on that game next week if he's if he's starting.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I didn't see any of the actual game. I just
saw the.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Highlights basically of overtime of the Dolphins and Commanders. What's
the what's the vibe on the Madrid thing?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Like?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Is the feedback that Spain went well, that it was
a success or not.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It look cool?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Cool? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Look cool?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't know if I'm going to guess it was successful.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Not a ton of scoring to show our Spanish friends,
but sixteen thirteen, Yeah, Dolphins winning overtime.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That was kind of the the takeaway from it. We
were apologizing to Spain for sending our worst football teams.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That was a bad, bad game.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Is Mike McDaniel saving his job though, Benjamin, Oh boy,
they've won three out of their last four.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He might after starting one and six, he might be
he might be.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I think the owner said that. I mean an owner
say things all the time. For sure, you can only
you can only take that as far as you can
throw it. But he did say that he Mike mcdannofs
he wants him to keep going and keep leading this team.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Check us out. You know, they're what four and seven.
This isn't a Dolphins fan line. Listen to the rest
of their schedule. If they're if they have figured something out,
they could get really hot.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
This is about as easy as against the rest of
the way, hosting the Saints, when at the Jets, when
at the Steelers with we'll see what the wrist injury is.
Hosting the Bengals, then hosting the Bucks, that's not super easy,
and then at the Patriots. Obviously that's going to be tough.
But the next four or five there's a lot of wins.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I mean, there's probably two guaranteed wins Saints a TB
four in there, so so they could they could maybe
sniff close to five hundred.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
If they get hat eight and nine kind of a finish,
maybe that would be better than the one in six
starts that they had.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That might save his job. Zach, your hand was up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, Miami had the ball fourth and one with a
minute forty four to go in at high game. It's
thirteen thirteen. They had a fourth and goal at the
one and they went for it. Yeah, instead of kicking
the field goal. What are your thoughts on that? And
if the Dolphins don't eventually win this one and the
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Commanders just go down and kick a field goal, does
McDaniel sall a job today?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's a good munch. Time was left one.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
It's a good point, I mean, I think for I
mean that the margins in this league. So that's the thing,
Like every every potential coaching gaff that happens late in
the game, it could be fireball.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you're in the hot you're in the hot seat
like that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I think you can gamble when you're three and seven
and if you get stuff you are asking Marcus Mariota
to go seventy yards to beat you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I don't hate it. It just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
The fourth down stuff though. Now, like how many times
did Detroit turn it over on downs last night? Like
five times? I think that that has become And then
ESPN does their they have the whatever analytics met Yeah,
it's been like two years since I've seen it, say punt,
so the analytics must just be overwhelmingly now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
In pay of that going for let me ask you that, Benjamin,
do you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And if you don't know the answer, I hope somebody
maybe from the Vikings can just text me and let
me know. You know, we've had the discussions about like
teams having a game theory specialist on the side, and
everybody should have somebody that knows the math, the numbers
or whatever the charts.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Are you allowed to just have.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Somebody down there that has memorized a lot of the
situations or with all those Microsoft surfaces or whatnot. Can
they have just an AI program that is non stop
updating you on what the exact right call is, like,
do they have access to AI on the sidelines and
can they utilize it? Because otherwise, why would you not
constantly have somebody running analytics saying to you exactly what
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the probability is at all times, just for again, for
extra information for the coach to know exactly additional resources.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
My guess is that a guy like like Ryan Cordell
that he gets so much love on all these challenges
as somebody like that, maybe not him specifically, but maybe
not on the sideline. I mean it's not it's yeah,
it's not built into the to the Microsoft surfaces. Those
are just replay only.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's all you can use those for.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
It.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think that's all you can use those for.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Okay, So, but I wasn't sure even if that, if
that just can you just browse on the side, I
can think, So, can you check your fantasy?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I suppose if you Yeah, sure.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
I suppose if you jumped out of that program and
that software, he can probably do other things because it
is connected to the internet, So I'm sure. But like
those are so heavily monitor and there's a whole team
of people that handle those things. I would guess that
why why wouldn't you if you had a whole group
of guys in a booth and there's you know, they're
all connected via headsets anyway, and like, why wouldn't you
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have some sort of software, especially with the way QUASI
does everything and analytically, why wouldn't you have something like
that always updating down in distance and.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
If every team has the access to it, it's not
cheating if your AI is things like it's just math doing.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And maybe maybe just math.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You can't get smart people to write a program that
you that might be better than everybody else's too, or
you could input certain things that you might deem more
important as to here's the formula we want to run.
Tell me if I should go for it or not
go forward, or kick a field goal or punt or whatever.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I don't see why that's a competitive advantage anyway. I
don't see why that is. It's just information.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
It's still up to the head coach to say, like
I get that it says it's a fifty one percent
chance we should do this versus forty nine. I'm gonna
go with my gut and do the forty nine just
because it's game feel so you don't have to listen
to what that's spitting out, of course not, but you know,
it's a nice piece of information. No, in real time,
I don't see why that's cheating or you know, an
extra advantage.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's just you're just doing math.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Don't you think to Most of the time when you
have to think about it, it's like that fifty two
forty like it really doesn't. It comes down to the
gut field coach a time where you think it's obvious,
and some guys like no, no, no, no, you got
sixty three percent win percent of chure going for it.
It's not a coin toss. You should go for it
when the coach is thinking punt. Maybe that could be
a difference maker in those decisions. Every team should have one.
(27:10):
I agree, I agree, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right, Vikings News.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
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Speaker 5 (28:06):
Though I'd like to say thank you to you, rad Coe,
and I'd like to say to you a lovely Viking fan.
Here's what the head coach had to say after the
game yesterday about his quarterback, JJ Max Gin.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
There were some plays you think of as you kind
of roll through the game from you know, start to finish.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I also thought there were some plays we.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Could have made for him as well, and we just
got to you know, stay the course and continue to
coach the principles that we believe in wholeheartedly and continue
to try to pave the path for improvement. And like
it starts with the pitching and catching and and how
we're putting things together and trying to make it, you know,
as as quarterback friendly as we can.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
How do you do that, coach?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
All those things you're you're kind of working through knowing that, uh,
you know, I think when we got that that big
time return from from miles you know to Scool, you know,
I ran it two times, you know, directly off of
that sudden change, which is which is unique, you know
if you're if you're looking back over the the catalog
over the years. But our guys responded and put the
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ball in the end zone.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah, you know, he's not wrong with anything that he
was saying. I mean, the we talked about it earlier.
If no matter, no matter who's look listen, going into
this game, the Bears, who they think that they have
the their franchise quarterback that got solidified in the game
in the previous game. But if you want to hear
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about all the grumblings going on there, they had what
six or eight drops by their receivers, two of them
were for touchdowns, and they're like, you know, you can't
have this, Like I would say, you can't. You can't
have that when you have a franchise quarterback. You can't
have that when you have a quarterback starting his fifth
game of his career. So yeah, the quarterback has to
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play better. But then when the ball's delivered, you got
to catch the damn thing, you know, so you do
have to There is a little bit more stress, unfortunately,
sorry your professional athletes. There's more stress on you to
make more plays for this young kid while you all
collectively get this thing figured out. So it seems a
little unfair to have to feel like you're playing perfect
football as a receiver but that's just the way it is.
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And I know that sometimes he throws the ball in
there a little hot. That's that's on JJ to figure
that out. But you know, when Jordan Maddison's going over
the middle, and you know the quarterbacks stepping up in
the pocket to get out of trouble, and that's delivered
right on the spot, you got to make that catch.
I mean that that is a chain mover and a
momentum gainer in that situation, and you gotta have it.
So that's the one thing that left for me. I
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left the game more optimistic because I know it's what
it could have should have. And I know that we're
asking a lot out of the young quarterback. But schematically,
virtually every errant pass, whether he sailed it ten feet
over the guy's head or threw it in the dirt
or we dropped.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It, every guy's open. Every single guy was open.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Man.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
It's like, you know, conceptually, we're dialing up the right
plays at the right moment against against their defense. The
plays are there to make. Once we start making sixty
percent of those, that's real winning football. So I mean,
we just got to stay the course and kind of
ride through this the rocky waves here with this young kid.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
But I think he's got it clearly.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The coaching staff can call the right plays, and you
know our defense played winning football too.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Give me a reason why this season is quote over
with seven games ago, and give me some reason for optimism.
Why could this still go our way? And figure out
a way to sneak in? Well, you can't win games
by being this inconsistent. And the take give ratio is
what it is. You're I don't care if you're Sam
Darnold who threw what foreig interceptions yesterday. If your offense
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is going to give the ball away that that frequently
in your defense is reluctant to take the ball away,
that's not winning football, regardless of who's that quarter back.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So that's a reason why to think that, you know,
we're going to continue this slide. And the defense talks
about it too. I mean they it's not like they
don't want to take the ball away.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
They're trying.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
But you can't go out of body sometimes do and
you know, get too risky in vacate a zone and
do all this other stuff and play cowboy football just
to go out and pick a ball off or do
something crazy and then subject your defense to a bigger play.
So I don't know if it's you know what it is. Defensively,
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I think playing from a lead obviously helps, you know,
when you get into more passing situations, you get in
more pass rush situations. That helps a lot, you know,
attacking the football, you know if you're the second or
third guy a little bit more often in some of
these run games. But that's a reason right there that
if we don't figure that out, we're not winning many
games coming up. On the flip side of that, we're competitive,
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we're in every game. Like the Ravens, they were not
a better football team than us. That's a play bound
team that they're probably going to win their division. You
want to look at on paper skill wise, talent wise,
we matched up with them as good as anybody else.
If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, not because
of what they did, because of what we did, we
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win that game. I would say the same thing about
the Bears. The Bears on top of the division right now.
They got young talented quarterback. He made a lot of plays.
That defense is ascending. They're vibing right now with their
new head coach, and I think that we gave away
more plays than they made. So again it's on us
we figure out some of those things. And again it's
not like every one of those things is going to
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be correctable and we're going to play one hundred percent
perfect football. But if we just increase that value into
the sixty seventy percent success rate, now we're winning games.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Another impossible question because it's November seventeenth, but let's just
look ahead. Give me some names on this team that
you think are not going to be on the team
next year, just based on performance, based on salary, based
on you know, we're one of the oldest rosters in
the league.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
God, what do you think you're going? Right? For my jugular?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Like, I just hope the Vikings are listening and want
to reach out to you and go, dude, what are you
doing you?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hopefully the you know the team, the players you're about
to name, hopefully they're listening.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, but some of them could be good players that
are just you know, the wrong price for this where
this team is headed, like I would, I'll throw I'll
get it started for you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I assume TJ.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Hockinson's on the top of the list, right, he's going
to make a ton next year.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We haven't used him much this year.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I just can't see them bringing him back, whether they
love him or not. It's just that's a huge price tag.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
What is it. It's like twenty something. It's like a
giant number number. You know.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I'd have to look at the websites to see how
much cap savings we actually get by by letting him go.
You know, obviously via a trade would be the best situation,
but the league also knows the situation, so I don't
think there's anybody going to make a trade in this
offseason form but help us out. I would say that
he's probably at the top of the list. You know,
(34:56):
I'm gonna guess that Harrison Smith will be done. I'll
probably retire. I think he has got one year left
on his contract, so that's another contract that would be
off the books.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Do you think's done? I think the heeling's probably done.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Will probably have to I don't know if I see
Aaron Jones back, just given his injury history.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I would love to see him back. I mean, he's
he's a great.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Dude, But when you're looking at when you're looking at
kind of flipping this roster over into some more youthful stuff,
especially contract wise, I think you have to re You
really have to look at it from a business standpoint.
As everybody knows, you have to take the emotions out
of these things. This is this is the tough part
of the business. This is why Quasi and the staff
get paid the big bucks. Not only to draft, but
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you also have to like make tough decisions. I'm not
sure Hargrave is going to be back. May have to
reevaluate Jonathan Allen as well. I mean, these are these
are all guys that you brought. You brought in thinking
that they're going to fix something, and you give them
nice contracts. But when you're not performing at the level
that you want, you really have to reevaluate where you
want to go with the direction of this football team.
When it comes to you. You mentioned it to me, somebody
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else mentioned it to me. You know, you mentioned during
Corey on point of View during one of the breaks.
You know, we're we're already roster wise, one of the
older teams in this division, and.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Sneakily though, right I think, I think when you look
at McCarthy and Jefferson and Addison you're like, man, we
got some young talent.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We're going the right way.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Then you look at the entire roster you're like, oh,
we're kind of sneakily old.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, and you probably want to you want
to get younger, you want to you want to write.
If you feel still feel like McCarthy is the guy
and you're going to build around him, you probably want
to put some youthful pieces around him as well and
really build up a nucleus that is a little more
cohesive than than what it is right now. Age Wise,
Jordan Addison is probably not on the team. I mean,
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he's probably gonna he's up for a big payday and
not sure you want to be in the Bengal situation
where you're paying two high, high end wide receivers. He's
deserving of the money. I'm just not sure you want
to allocate that money to another wide receiver. So you're
probably looking to to move on from him. You may
have to restructure Brian Neil's contracts because I think he's
at the top of the list as well. I think
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he deserves to be on this team. He's still a
huge foundational part of this offensive line. Ryan Kelly probably
won't be back. So that's another contract that you want
have to worry about. That's obviously for health reasons. Ah shure,
I'm thinking of. I mean that's I mean, off the
top of my head, that's probably the guys that will
not be or you're going to have make some tough decisions.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
On Holines ringing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Oh hey Rosie, Oh no, he said youthful pieces. He
meant football players. Yeah, no, not those kind of youthful pieces.
Y'll let you know, okay, bye, that's Mark Rosen. Yeah,
he heard hearn say youthful pieces and he got all
fired up.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
The other the other guy and then against once we're
going down this route and I'm just just rolling right now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I mean, unfortunately C J. Hamm probably won't be back.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I mean, you know, he's another guy that's been foundational
part of this organization for a long time and everybody
and everybody loves him. But and you got a lot
of playing time, Yestually it was it was actually, you know,
it was nice to see us get go more big
personnel with him in the game, and I think it
really really worked out. But you'll probably have to reevaluate,
you evaloulate his contract situation as you get younger as well.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You know what the hard thing is, Ben, what I know,
you gotta if you're going to have a young quarterback,
you gotta say we're biting the bullet and we're doing it. Yeah,
But with the way this division is this year, the
way the NFL is this year, if we had a
I don't know, Kirk Cousins, where would we be sitting
right now?
Speaker 7 (38:35):
I mean, I know all the all the people out there,
even if you just kept Daniel Jones or you kept
Sam Donald. Yeah, it's it is difficult to say. I mean,
you obviously are more competitive football team, all right, you are.
But I think, you know, I do feel like sometimes,
you know, Corey, once again, you and I are, you know,
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in the same situation with this, and I know I'm
just like talking about some of the guys in this room,
and I know other people are as well. But we
are in the mindset of playing the long game. And
that's why I think yesterday's game is not as frustrating
to me as a lot of people out there publicly.
You know, I put out a video and I was like, listen,
I'm not as upset maybe as you'd think I got
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a lot of people that are like, you know, upset
that I'm not upset, and I'm like, what I'm looking now,
this could all blow up in my face, in some
other people's faces. Obviously, the Vikings have long term plans too,
but I'm looking at this as a at least a
two to three year plan, and it is going to
have some rough patches in there, and we're gonna have
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some bright spots in there. And again, if we get
at the end of the season and we're like, man,
this kid is starting to figure out every single game,
there's something that you can pull that is like, that's
an improvement, that's an improvement, that's an improvement. That's what
I'm looking for because I truly believe in building this
team from the youth, from the draft. That's winning football
and always going out in piece mealing the quarterback position
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and always crossing your fingers like, oh, we got to
pay this guy eighty million dollars and we don't know
if he's going to fit in this scheme and we
don't have how we allocated eighty million dollars one hundred
million dollars to this guy, like and we're hoping why
not just draft a guy and develop him. This is
what developmental quarterbacks look like. It and it baffles me.
The fan base out there thinking that it was going
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to be an All Pro Pro Bowl player in his
first year and his fourth this start like what did
you expect? Every every Hall of Fame quarterback goes through
a really rough season, season and a half before they
really start to figure it out. This is what developmental
quarterbacks look like. I'm sorry that you can't look further
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down the road, and I'm not saying and I'm not
saying that you shouldn't be a little frustrated because we
have seventeen these suckers and everyone of these they matter
to a lot of people. But this, this is what
a developmental quarterback situation looks like. And I know it
kind of sucks, but you got to have the bigger
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picture of mine.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Let's double down a little bit. Let's go back and
try not to do revisionist history. What the Vikings had
to do when they discussed Sam Donald and Daniel Jones
and bringing in Aaron Rodgers is not just can we
be competitive? I think everybody understands if you have one
of those three guys and they're more more than ready
compared to JJ McCarthy. You're going to be more competitive
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than JJ's ups and downs. But with the roster we
just discussed that it's sneakily older than we thought, and
maybe some of these guys are overpaid. Can you win
a Super Bowl this year with Daniel Jones, Sam Donald
and Aaron Rodgers? Obviously they I think they said before
the season, I don't think that we're that close where
we're a Donald or Jones, when again, nobody knew Daniel
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Jones was going to be this good, so I don't
even think he's in the conversation. To be fair, it
was really Donald or Rodgers. But anyway, that's what they
decided is. I don't think think this is a super
Bowl roster. We could be pretty good. If JJ is
pretty good, we could be competitive. We could be maybe
sneakily surprisingly good. It just hasn't worked out yet. But
I don't I don't think we'd be a super Bowl
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contender with any of the teams we just or guys
we just named. Even with Darnold we had that's what
we had last year and we got our asses kicked.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
I'd much rather do what we're doing, and just even
if it's wrong.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
It is tough though, because obviously Justin Jefferson is another
year older.
Speaker 9 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Yeah, like my dad said earlier, did I get together
and talk about this?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Well, that's a question, then, is it? He would you
trade him for draft picks?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean at some point, but because at some point
he's going to get pissed and say, I'm not sitting
through this for three more years.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You're talking about Jefferson. I think you're talking about McCarthy's Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Uh I.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Bank Stadium to the ground. Do you remember the Moss trade?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Everybody got super pissed jeffersonj Cutt with thirty three seconds.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Johnny Krazinski asked.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Him about that yesterday after the game, about the windows
tight young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
How frustrating is that? If you can find it?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, I can find that.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
What's thee though? He basically said what he said, Yeah,
it's frustrating. I mean, I was surprised he kind of
went down that road.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
He's not wrong, you know, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Like, but I'm saying, if he's frustrated now and they
end up six and whatever in the off season, he
might say screw this I got three years ago.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
He doesn't seem like I'm not him. Well, that's not him.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
The thing is like, just because you would ask for
a trade, Drinker, doesn't mean Jefferson's trade to go sit
in the corner.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm not saying it's that that that it that the
team would trade him. I'm saying he may say what
if if what Ben says is true and it's a
two or three year project with no chance. As you said, Corey,
they started the year without thinking they're going to win
a super Bowl, he might say, well, screw this, I'm
I'm gonna go in and go give me a team
that can win a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
If he demands a trade, and I don't think he would.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
If he demands a trade, that's very different than koys,
he just going worshipping them, right Like that's then we
have a Luca down Sage situation and the fan base
is super pissed. No, I don't think he. I don't
think he would request a trade.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Well, I'll play that audio when we get back, because
I did find it good good.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
That's right tonight, tomorrow's twin.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Cities, or that that's the twins the chance for rain
and chance of snow overnight. We actually have a high
forty five. I was looking at the wrong area.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh well, way to go.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
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not too much, baby, Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's the old app on my phone here basically says
like next ten days is all mid forties for highs.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, that's average. Okay, buddy, what's wrong with being average?
Nothing's wrong with it? Did I insinuate that there was
something wrong?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Is average?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, forty five forty We can't all be extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're all half less, which I will always say is.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The weirdest word of all time, because extraordinary sounds like
you are beyond ordinary.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But if you have a lot of extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You're outside of ordinary.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, you're beyond, but you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Like the level of ordinary is like five out of ten.
If you're extraordinary, you're like really a five like side ceter.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Got a good personality, so that up to a seventy
or seven.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You've been trying to sell that whole five is extraordinary thing,
your whole.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Life, one person at a time. I'm trying to convince
extraordinary extra out.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I got an idea.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
By the way, Oh Boy meets Us is back tomorrow,
right unless he dies? Right, Okay, I'm going to print
up some meat sauce bingo cards if he says, what
you know, yep, yep, right?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Is wood Hawk a free space? Some of them are
at the time, Well.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But you got to put them in different spots.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Somebody's got to get a bingo, right, somebody's gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Get a bingo.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
So at some point during the show, as if we're
playing along, one of us will yell bingo.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
My guess is five, hold your cards.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Everybody hold your cards, all.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Right, so that whales, Yes, we have a so I
have a so here's the thing, Okay, Yeah, I woke up.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
A reference to the hot boys or any of a
nineties wrap reference.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Right he named dropped Jerry's Foods and a Dina Hmm, Bingo.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Like it.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's a legitimate bingo.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Battles would be a battles just handing like a thousand
bingo cards and see who wins first.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's a sixty second game, though, I think.
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So let's go okay by, let's go okay.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
A Cass County Sheriff's deputy is shot and another man
is killed near Beer Bayside Resort, Jeez up in Bomigie.
Emergency medical services stop the deputies bleeding before he was
therelifted to hospital and Fargo. The incident happened on the
Leech Lake Reservation near Walker, five miles from the Northern
Lights Casino that's.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not near Bomigie.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why does this sad? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, by the Northern Lights casino. Names of the deputy
of the man kill we're not released. Sunday night's shooting
is the second police shooting in the in the area
of Poker since August.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Holy wow, real.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
News on the power trip this morning. Thank you to
the officers for doing what they do. Jeez, Louise, I
can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I saw a police officer pulling somebody over on the
way here this morning, walking up beside somebody's car, and
I was thinking, man, that's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Especially at night.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, so I'm saying, you have no idea what's waiting
behind that one?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I know?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Could you see what happened on three ninety first, there
was about seven or eight cop cars in an ambulance.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It looked like there was some kind of it was
usually an exit right there.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, pretty significant accident of some kind on three ninety
four this morning, Because man, I drove past a pile
of lights and.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
By the way, speak of that that exit right there.
I don't know that I'm going to live long enough
to see that finished.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Nope, it's been what three months? Yeah, months?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And I'm sure they're doing it is a massive undertaking.
I got a good look at it yestery and I
was driving in here to the station. Holy moly, it's
taken forever though, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you know what
I heard on the news the other day. There's a
silver porn.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's their day.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
So they were closing down four ninety four just for
the weekend. I think they said to transition to winter traffic.
Like what does that mean? Like you just you just
shift like exits around, Like what is I don't understand
what they know or they do to get ready for winter.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like when you got to turn your sprinklers off so
the pipestone free.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Yeah, it's like do they have like hot wheels tracks
that they just like pick up things and move them around.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They'd be sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's a great question. I don't like. I please a
hockey kfan dot com. We'd like to know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, because they're going to allow those cruis to complete
utility work on the ramps.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Oh maybe I swear that we talked about I was
told something about winter getting ready for winter traffic or
winter conditions or something.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know. Oh, somebody lie to you. Quit lying
the first time quit line to bend what the man like?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
That's always blame. AI think a I did it. I
think that's what Zach just asked. Anyway, do you just
asked a iph No, I.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Iverson even though who you are?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, he knows who I am.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Gray Wolf sightings and ely are prompting a debate over
its endangered species status. By the way, I saw a
video of uh, somebody's hey gray wolf just ran by me.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I was like, cool, I clicked out. I watched it.
Now I've got nothing but wolves versus sheep dogs.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
And it's bad algorithm that those sheep dogs are badasses.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You're right, though, if you click on one thing, the
algorithm thinks, oh you like this.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's not my fault. It's everywhere, right.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So it's like, now I have all these adults and diapers,
and I'm like, I just clicked on one video.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's not all I want. Emma Smith here would depend.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And I still can't believe there's no ass on the
end of that word.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Say he learned some thing.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah anyway, Uh yeah, there's gray wolves man up in
Ealy be cool, everybody, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're so awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
They're cool. Man, they are. Just remember, they're just as
scared of you as you are of them.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I bet they're not. I bet I'm way more scared.
I bet.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
How big is a timberwolf? And I don't mean the
you know, Rudy Gobert? How is a timberwolve?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
In one? How big? Like? Are timberwolves gigantic? Actual wolves?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Is it a female?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They generally weigh between sixty six and one hundred and
forty five pounds.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Jesus, it's a ranch range. They have sexual dimorphism or
what the shorter range like?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's like a great Dane size, like hi, twenty six
to thirty three inches.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tall at the shoulder, it almost five six feet long.
That's pretty long.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know about your children.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's like a great Dane.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Where the hell are timberwolves all northern Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, where can you find?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Can Ya's target center?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well? No, there are no timberwolves in Kenya?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Uh yeah, how dare you? You don't know that? Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Just you know Canada and uh United States? We have
them in Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right? Not allowed to cross the Yeah without an enhanced
ID Is that right?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Michigan. Well, those aren't wolves. Its kind of sounds.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like wolverines are badass. Okay.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
New York Jet's cornerback Chris Boyd, former Minnesota Viking, critical
but stable condition after being shot in Midtown, Manhattan on Sunday.
The shooting happened early Sunday morning outside of a restaurant.
Rofsters found Boyd with a gun gutshot wound to the abdomen.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh no, that's not good. I know the update.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
No rest have been made. Motive remains unclear. That's the update.
That's the latest. I was he was gonna say, are
they off? I know it was he out on Saturday
morning that late.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
For two am. I played on on Thursday. It was
a first so that's why. Yeah, many buy.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He couldn't sleep, just hanging out, hadn't got time for
the pain. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I guess I don't know the answer.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
The FAA is lifting its flight reduction over order at
airports Nation White starting this morning. Reduction flights at forty
major airports began and we go to help address the
fatigue and staffing issues among air traffic controllers during the
record lard government record long government shutdown. But uh, they're
back to normal, I guess this morning.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
So is it true that during the forty some odd
days of this shutdown, like you were working, but you
are not getting paid, right, but you are getting back paid.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They are getting back paid. That is correct. I did
hear that this?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Imagine that check? It was. Yeah, that's good man, Yeah,
go feel good. They were trying not to back pay them.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh really, yes, they got to now it's happening.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well that's real.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Check went hell of a check, right, I hope so well,
I don't know, man, I'd be a hell of a job,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Or traffic controller? Yeah, yeah, get distracted eighteen people.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
We need more people to do that though. So it's
actually great.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
If you want to get into it, please do it
because we need more.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
Thanks a hell of a recruitment. Yeah, yeah, I signed.
I'm ready for Yeah, thanks Miro. Thanks for basketball coach.
You see, LA, guys, one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Most stressful jobs on the planet.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But go go into it and you'll get paid eventually.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You and Tony Robbins just so inspirational. You see l
a basketball John John the coaches is woitten inspiration.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Your favorite show.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You could crash a plane over Albuquerque right on to
mister White's uh.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, look right, you know see you you're referencing Breaking Back.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
When you said my favorite TV show, I just assumed
you meant to catch a predator, so I.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Didn't know where you were going with this. I want
to sit down. Here's the best reality TV show of
all time. It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And finally, the most pepper.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
The most popular Thanksgiving side dish in America.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Kill we guess?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh no, I almost got fired in America. Not in
my home.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
The most popular Thanksgiving side dish in America is being revealed,
according to the new survey by Campbell's Blank remains the
most popular site.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We're gonna say tomato soup is what everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They're going to say, green Bean castle role.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's got to be.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Stuffing, stuffing.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Mash Taters came in second, followed by Sweet Taters, mac
and cheese, and then green.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Bean Campbell's own. Maybe that was the no no, maybe,
maybe I'll.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Tell you what.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll take all those man, What side dishes are you
planning on having at this Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
We're gonna try some wild u uh or no, just
some wild animals.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
We're gonna do a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Of different what kind of what kind of animals?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How, well, we're gonna we're gonna try some beaver. We're
gonna try some different confections.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, timber wolves, gray wolves, wolverines, a lot of eggplant.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
To yeah yeah, yeah hmm, just a lone little anyway.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That's the news that That's right. That was good stuff.
Thanks a great job. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I gave you some some hardcore stuff and that a
little a little fun in there at the end.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, it was a it was a real potpourri, a
real cornicopia news.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Thank you, Thank you, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We'll do sports when we get back. No sauce today.
He'll be back tomorrow to.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Tell you who's going to battle who bingo.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Bank of Bears.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yesterday, thanks Captain Comedy, and they'll battle the Green Bay
Packers on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Sports.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
If it is on the Wow dude, Wow, dude.
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Speaker 4 (14:00):
Meetings of the words suite there it happens to be
s U I T E, but they're also sw e
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know it's bo like chocolate, the same special sports Yep.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
It's time for a fan five on the Power Trip,
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Speaker 3 (14:25):
He got that right.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The uh The Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit nervous that
Aaron Rodgers broke his wrist against the Bengals. I think
it might be a slight break, Mason Rudolf, if I believe,
went in.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But now they're saying they're not quite sure what the.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Prognosis is for mister Rogers might have broken his wrist.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Mister Rogers broke his wrist, possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, rowing up, He'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Oh no, it's never good when you hear it might
be a slight break of a wrist, and he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
A slight break. That sounds super awful. He'll put a
brace on it. It's his non throwing handle, his non
throw hand. Yeah, him a time left wrist, let's go.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't know, man, did you How about that
big tight end who was like looked like a high
schooler playing with junior high kids. My god, Mount Washington, Washington, Yeah,
I remember him being big when he played against US.
It looked like he grew a few feet. He was
just throwing people around.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
It's the biggest skilled position player I've ever seen. Yeah,
ever he is. He's like when you see Wemby in
real life, You're like, that's an alien, And then you
see Mount Washington in real life with pads on, You're like,
that's an alien. There's no way that that guy should
move like that and play football on the same field
with all these other guys.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
He's got moves like Jagger Yeah yeah, yeah, loose hips, yeah,
sink ships.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Like you mentioned, Sauce didn't tweet Forrest Gump waving because
brock Perty actually played pretty.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well in a forty one twenty two win.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
However, do you see Jacobe Brissette's numbers historic and I'm
not even making that up. Historically, Yeah, forty seven of
fifty seven for four hundred and fifty two yards. But
two touchdowns and two interceptions. But the forty seven completions
for Brissett more than any quarterback has ever ended a
game in the history of the NFL in a regular
(16:21):
season game, and it ties Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He did that in twenty twenty one in a wild
card game.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I guess, so most ever completions forty seven and they lost.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
They lost by nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Dang, they got blown up. They got blown out forty
seven to fifty seven. Didn't Bryce Young throw for four
hundred two?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah? Damn near. I think something like that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And of course, now Rico Dowdle scored a late touchdown,
and of course Twitter just explodes now saying Dwattle, Dwattle again.
Put that on your Bengo car that tomorrow. Let's also
say I got eliminated from my fantasy football league because
Rico Dwaddle cost me the game. So that's a thing.
(17:07):
The Philadelphia egos. Ben last night got her done against
the Detroit Lions. All of a sudden, the Lions went
from man, they might be the best team in the
NFL and now over the last what three weeks, massive regression?
What's going on with Detroit? I mean It's not like
Philly was a bunch of world beaters last night. I
think what they put sixteen to nine, I think sixteen.
So they weren't great, but they were better than the Lions,
(17:27):
and to hold the Lions to single digits is pretty nuts.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Well, they clearly have some offensive issues. I mean, they're
Dan Campbell's now calling plays, and you know, they're trying
to replace Ben Johnson, and it seemed like it was
after the first game against the Packers, it was like,
oh boy, and then they picked it back up and
it seemed like they were doing fine, and then obviously
something was amiss internally. Dan Campbell took over and it's
(17:54):
not been good either. So yeah, man, I don't know.
I don't know what's going on with him. They seem
to be on the struggle bus. And you look at
the division right now, I mean, look at the freaking Bears,
like they're on top of the division, and they seem
like they're the team that has the most consistency with
the first year coaching staff. They seem to be the
(18:17):
most solidified right now as far as offensive weapons. Would
they the way their defense is playing, then they're expecting
actually some players to get back healthier as the weeks
go on, so like they're kind of poised to win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Alright, I need the five of you to be honest. God,
dang it, raise your hand. If you did not see
Chador Sanders' stats, so you don't know his stats. I
don't even know if you did not. So, Zach you
don't know him. Grimmer, you don't know him. Ben, you
didn't see him. So none of you, none.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Of you have seen I knew that he got in,
so I was watching the game when he was in,
but I didn't see like, so Gabriel gets knocked out
of the game, so goes, yes, the same.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Shador Sanders through sixteen passes. Okay, how many did he
complete out of sixteen?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Well, I did see the last the last drive that
he tried to like will his way back and win
the game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Because they lost twenty three sixteen to the Ravens, who
are now all the way back to five hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
They've won four straight. Couple good throws in there, I'm
gonna say you said sixteen.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He threw sixteen attempts seven seven, Grimmar eleven eleven for sixteen,
Zachary ten for sixteen, Chris four four out of sixteen MAXO.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I think it was. I think it's three. Chris Nail
did its exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Four four of sixteen forty seven yards in a pick
a passing rating? Is it passer or passing? I think
the initials game host well as said pass or. I
wouldn't give it to him. But if Marnie said it, uh,
thirteen point five percent rating, what was it thirteen?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I shouldn't say percent thirteen point five rating. Yeah, that's
not good. That is not good. Not good.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
So somebody I forget the stat now, but they basically
said it's like the worst start in Brown's history for
a rookie, and it wasn't a star beat like first
initial game.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I should say, I got to be hard to be
worse than that. The highlights that I saw, he actually
looked all right.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I mean he only had four. He looks better to me,
just movement around and in competency with the football. I
can even say the word but like than Gabriel then Gabriel. Yeah,
then like he looks more of the part than Gabriel does.
There was a drop pass on that last drive, there was, yeah,
and they're two and eight again. Now it's I mean,
(20:49):
we're four and six and we're already going what do
we do at two and eight?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They have nothing to play for? See what you get?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Let the kid figure it out, especially if Gabriel has
a concussion and then you have to go to Sanders.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We have to, yeah, which would be kind of fun.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Which will be a lot of eyes, a lot of
eyes on that game next week if he's if he's starting.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I didn't see any of the actual game. I just
saw the.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Highlights basically of overtime of the Dolphins and Commanders. What's
the what's the vibe on the Madrid thing?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Like?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Is the feedback that Spain went well, that it was
a success or not.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It look cool?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Cool? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Look cool?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't know if I'm going to guess it was successful.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Not a ton of scoring to show our Spanish friends,
but sixteen thirteen, Yeah, Dolphins winning overtime.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That was kind of the the takeaway from it. We
were apologizing to Spain for sending our worst football teams.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That was a bad, bad game.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Is Mike McDaniel saving his job though, Benjamin, Oh boy,
they've won three out of their last four.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He might after starting one and six, he might be
he might be.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I think the owner said that. I mean an owner
say things all the time. For sure, you can only
you can only take that as far as you can
throw it. But he did say that he Mike mcdannofs
he wants him to keep going and keep leading this team.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Check us out. You know, they're what four and seven.
This isn't a Dolphins fan line. Listen to the rest
of their schedule. If they're if they have figured something out,
they could get really hot.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
This is about as easy as against the rest of
the way, hosting the Saints, when at the Jets, when
at the Steelers with we'll see what the wrist injury is.
Hosting the Bengals, then hosting the Bucks, that's not super easy,
and then at the Patriots. Obviously that's going to be tough.
But the next four or five there's a lot of wins.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I mean, there's probably two guaranteed wins Saints a TB
four in there, so so they could they could maybe
sniff close to five hundred.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
If they get hat eight and nine kind of a finish,
maybe that would be better than the one in six
starts that they had.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That might save his job. Zach, your hand was up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, Miami had the ball fourth and one with a
minute forty four to go in at high game. It's
thirteen thirteen. They had a fourth and goal at the
one and they went for it. Yeah, instead of kicking
the field goal. What are your thoughts on that? And
if the Dolphins don't eventually win this one and the
(23:15):
Commanders just go down and kick a field goal, does
McDaniel sall a job today?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's a good munch. Time was left one.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
It's a good point, I mean, I think for I
mean that the margins in this league. So that's the thing,
Like every every potential coaching gaff that happens late in
the game, it could be fireball.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
If you're in the hot you're in the hot seat
like that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I think you can gamble when you're three and seven
and if you get stuff you are asking Marcus Mariota
to go seventy yards to beat you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I don't hate it. It just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
The fourth down stuff though. Now, like how many times
did Detroit turn it over on downs last night? Like
five times? I think that that has become And then
ESPN does their they have the whatever analytics met Yeah,
it's been like two years since I've seen it, say punt,
so the analytics must just be overwhelmingly now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
In pay of that going for let me ask you that, Benjamin,
do you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And if you don't know the answer, I hope somebody
maybe from the Vikings can just text me and let
me know. You know, we've had the discussions about like
teams having a game theory specialist on the side, and
everybody should have somebody that knows the math, the numbers
or whatever the charts.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Are you allowed to just have.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Somebody down there that has memorized a lot of the
situations or with all those Microsoft surfaces or whatnot. Can
they have just an AI program that is non stop
updating you on what the exact right call is, like,
do they have access to AI on the sidelines and
can they utilize it? Because otherwise, why would you not
constantly have somebody running analytics saying to you exactly what
(24:51):
the probability is at all times, just for again, for
extra information for the coach to know exactly additional resources.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
My guess is that a guy like like Ryan Cordell
that he gets so much love on all these challenges
as somebody like that, maybe not him specifically, but maybe
not on the sideline. I mean it's not it's yeah,
it's not built into the to the Microsoft surfaces. Those
are just replay only.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's all you can use those for.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
It.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think that's all you can use those for.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Okay, So, but I wasn't sure even if that, if
that just can you just browse on the side, I
can think, So, can you check your fantasy?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I suppose if you Yeah, sure.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
I suppose if you jumped out of that program and
that software, he can probably do other things because it
is connected to the internet, So I'm sure. But like
those are so heavily monitor and there's a whole team
of people that handle those things. I would guess that
why why wouldn't you if you had a whole group
of guys in a booth and there's you know, they're
all connected via headsets anyway, and like, why wouldn't you
(25:48):
have some sort of software, especially with the way QUASI
does everything and analytically, why wouldn't you have something like
that always updating down in distance and.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
If every team has the access to it, it's not
cheating if your AI is things like it's just math doing.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And maybe maybe just math.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You can't get smart people to write a program that
you that might be better than everybody else's too, or
you could input certain things that you might deem more
important as to here's the formula we want to run.
Tell me if I should go for it or not
go forward, or kick a field goal or punt or whatever.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I don't see why that's a competitive advantage anyway. I
don't see why that is. It's just information.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
It's still up to the head coach to say, like
I get that it says it's a fifty one percent
chance we should do this versus forty nine. I'm gonna
go with my gut and do the forty nine just
because it's game feel so you don't have to listen
to what that's spitting out, of course not, but you know,
it's a nice piece of information. No, in real time,
I don't see why that's cheating or you know, an
extra advantage.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's just you're just doing math.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Don't you think to Most of the time when you
have to think about it, it's like that fifty two
forty like it really doesn't. It comes down to the
gut field coach a time where you think it's obvious,
and some guys like no, no, no, no, you got
sixty three percent win percent of chure going for it.
It's not a coin toss. You should go for it
when the coach is thinking punt. Maybe that could be
a difference maker in those decisions. Every team should have one.
(27:10):
I agree, I agree, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right, Vikings News.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
When we come back, we'll go hardcore into the lost
to the Chicago Bears nineteen to seventeen. The Vikings fall
to four and six and one in four at home.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
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Speaker 3 (27:56):
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It's time for Vikings Us on the Power Drift presented
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Speaker 5 (28:06):
Though I'd like to say thank you to you, rad Coe,
and I'd like to say to you a lovely Viking fan.
Here's what the head coach had to say after the
game yesterday about his quarterback, JJ Max Gin.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
There were some plays you think of as you kind
of roll through the game from you know, start to finish.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I also thought there were some plays we.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Could have made for him as well, and we just
got to you know, stay the course and continue to
coach the principles that we believe in wholeheartedly and continue
to try to pave the path for improvement. And like
it starts with the pitching and catching and and how
we're putting things together and trying to make it, you know,
as as quarterback friendly as we can.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
How do you do that, coach?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
All those things you're you're kind of working through knowing that, uh,
you know, I think when we got that that big
time return from from miles you know to Scool, you know,
I ran it two times, you know, directly off of
that sudden change, which is which is unique, you know
if you're if you're looking back over the the catalog
over the years. But our guys responded and put the
(29:07):
ball in the end zone.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah, you know, he's not wrong with anything that he
was saying. I mean, the we talked about it earlier.
If no matter, no matter who's look listen, going into
this game, the Bears, who they think that they have
the their franchise quarterback that got solidified in the game
in the previous game. But if you want to hear
(29:31):
about all the grumblings going on there, they had what
six or eight drops by their receivers, two of them
were for touchdowns, and they're like, you know, you can't
have this, Like I would say, you can't. You can't
have that when you have a franchise quarterback. You can't
have that when you have a quarterback starting his fifth
game of his career. So yeah, the quarterback has to
(29:51):
play better. But then when the ball's delivered, you got
to catch the damn thing, you know, so you do
have to There is a little bit more stress, unfortunately,
sorry your professional athletes. There's more stress on you to
make more plays for this young kid while you all
collectively get this thing figured out. So it seems a
little unfair to have to feel like you're playing perfect
football as a receiver but that's just the way it is.
(30:14):
And I know that sometimes he throws the ball in
there a little hot. That's that's on JJ to figure
that out. But you know, when Jordan Maddison's going over
the middle, and you know the quarterbacks stepping up in
the pocket to get out of trouble, and that's delivered
right on the spot, you got to make that catch.
I mean that that is a chain mover and a
momentum gainer in that situation, and you gotta have it.
So that's the one thing that left for me. I
(30:39):
left the game more optimistic because I know it's what
it could have should have. And I know that we're
asking a lot out of the young quarterback. But schematically,
virtually every errant pass, whether he sailed it ten feet
over the guy's head or threw it in the dirt
or we dropped.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It, every guy's open. Every single guy was open.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Man.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
It's like, you know, conceptually, we're dialing up the right
plays at the right moment against against their defense. The
plays are there to make. Once we start making sixty
percent of those, that's real winning football. So I mean,
we just got to stay the course and kind of
ride through this the rocky waves here with this young kid.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
But I think he's got it clearly.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The coaching staff can call the right plays, and you
know our defense played winning football too.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Give me a reason why this season is quote over
with seven games ago, and give me some reason for optimism.
Why could this still go our way? And figure out
a way to sneak in? Well, you can't win games
by being this inconsistent. And the take give ratio is
what it is. You're I don't care if you're Sam
Darnold who threw what foreig interceptions yesterday. If your offense
(31:52):
is going to give the ball away that that frequently
in your defense is reluctant to take the ball away,
that's not winning football, regardless of who's that quarter back.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So that's a reason why to think that, you know,
we're going to continue this slide. And the defense talks
about it too. I mean they it's not like they
don't want to take the ball away.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
They're trying.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
But you can't go out of body sometimes do and
you know, get too risky in vacate a zone and
do all this other stuff and play cowboy football just
to go out and pick a ball off or do
something crazy and then subject your defense to a bigger play.
So I don't know if it's you know what it is. Defensively,
(32:31):
I think playing from a lead obviously helps, you know,
when you get into more passing situations, you get in
more pass rush situations. That helps a lot, you know,
attacking the football, you know if you're the second or
third guy a little bit more often in some of
these run games. But that's a reason right there that
if we don't figure that out, we're not winning many
games coming up. On the flip side of that, we're competitive,
(32:54):
we're in every game. Like the Ravens, they were not
a better football team than us. That's a play bound
team that they're probably going to win their division. You
want to look at on paper skill wise, talent wise,
we matched up with them as good as anybody else.
If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, not because
of what they did, because of what we did, we
(33:14):
win that game. I would say the same thing about
the Bears. The Bears on top of the division right now.
They got young talented quarterback. He made a lot of plays.
That defense is ascending. They're vibing right now with their
new head coach, and I think that we gave away
more plays than they made. So again it's on us
we figure out some of those things. And again it's
not like every one of those things is going to
(33:35):
be correctable and we're going to play one hundred percent
perfect football. But if we just increase that value into
the sixty seventy percent success rate, now we're winning games.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Another impossible question because it's November seventeenth, but let's just
look ahead. Give me some names on this team that
you think are not going to be on the team
next year, just based on performance, based on salary, based
on you know, we're one of the oldest rosters in
the league.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
God, what do you think you're going? Right? For my jugular?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Like, I just hope the Vikings are listening and want
to reach out to you and go, dude, what are you
doing you?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hopefully the you know the team, the players you're about
to name, hopefully they're listening.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, but some of them could be good players that
are just you know, the wrong price for this where
this team is headed, like I would, I'll throw I'll
get it started for you.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I assume TJ.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Hockinson's on the top of the list, right, he's going
to make a ton next year.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We haven't used him much this year.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I just can't see them bringing him back, whether they
love him or not. It's just that's a huge price tag.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
What is it. It's like twenty something. It's like a
giant number number. You know.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I'd have to look at the websites to see how
much cap savings we actually get by by letting him go.
You know, obviously via a trade would be the best situation,
but the league also knows the situation, so I don't
think there's anybody going to make a trade in this
offseason form but help us out. I would say that
he's probably at the top of the list. You know,
(34:56):
I'm gonna guess that Harrison Smith will be done. I'll
probably retire. I think he has got one year left
on his contract, so that's another contract that would be
off the books.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Do you think's done? I think the heeling's probably done.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Will probably have to I don't know if I see
Aaron Jones back, just given his injury history.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I would love to see him back. I mean, he's
he's a great.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Dude, But when you're looking at when you're looking at
kind of flipping this roster over into some more youthful stuff,
especially contract wise, I think you have to re You
really have to look at it from a business standpoint.
As everybody knows, you have to take the emotions out
of these things. This is this is the tough part
of the business. This is why Quasi and the staff
get paid the big bucks. Not only to draft, but
(35:40):
you also have to like make tough decisions. I'm not
sure Hargrave is going to be back. May have to
reevaluate Jonathan Allen as well. I mean, these are these
are all guys that you brought. You brought in thinking
that they're going to fix something, and you give them
nice contracts. But when you're not performing at the level
that you want, you really have to reevaluate where you
want to go with the direction of this football team.
When it comes to you. You mentioned it to me, somebody
(36:01):
else mentioned it to me. You know, you mentioned during
Corey on point of View during one of the breaks.
You know, we're we're already roster wise, one of the
older teams in this division, and.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Sneakily though, right I think, I think when you look
at McCarthy and Jefferson and Addison you're like, man, we
got some young talent.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We're going the right way.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Then you look at the entire roster you're like, oh,
we're kind of sneakily old.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, and you probably want to you want
to get younger, you want to you want to write.
If you feel still feel like McCarthy is the guy
and you're going to build around him, you probably want
to put some youthful pieces around him as well and
really build up a nucleus that is a little more
cohesive than than what it is right now. Age Wise,
Jordan Addison is probably not on the team. I mean,
(36:42):
he's probably gonna he's up for a big payday and
not sure you want to be in the Bengal situation
where you're paying two high, high end wide receivers. He's
deserving of the money. I'm just not sure you want
to allocate that money to another wide receiver. So you're
probably looking to to move on from him. You may
have to restructure Brian Neil's contracts because I think he's
at the top of the list as well. I think
(37:03):
he deserves to be on this team. He's still a
huge foundational part of this offensive line. Ryan Kelly probably
won't be back. So that's another contract that you want
have to worry about. That's obviously for health reasons. Ah shure,
I'm thinking of. I mean that's I mean, off the
top of my head, that's probably the guys that will
not be or you're going to have make some tough decisions.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
On Holines ringing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Oh hey Rosie, Oh no, he said youthful pieces. He
meant football players. Yeah, no, not those kind of youthful pieces.
Y'll let you know, okay, bye, that's Mark Rosen. Yeah,
he heard hearn say youthful pieces and he got all
fired up.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
The other the other guy and then against once we're
going down this route and I'm just just rolling right now.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I mean, unfortunately C J. Hamm probably won't be back.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I mean, you know, he's another guy that's been foundational
part of this organization for a long time and everybody
and everybody loves him. But and you got a lot
of playing time, Yestually it was it was actually, you know,
it was nice to see us get go more big
personnel with him in the game, and I think it
really really worked out. But you'll probably have to reevaluate,
you evaloulate his contract situation as you get younger as well.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You know what the hard thing is, Ben, what I know,
you gotta if you're going to have a young quarterback,
you gotta say we're biting the bullet and we're doing it. Yeah,
But with the way this division is this year, the
way the NFL is this year, if we had a
I don't know, Kirk Cousins, where would we be sitting
right now?
Speaker 7 (38:35):
I mean, I know all the all the people out there,
even if you just kept Daniel Jones or you kept
Sam Donald. Yeah, it's it is difficult to say. I mean,
you obviously are more competitive football team, all right, you are.
But I think, you know, I do feel like sometimes,
you know, Corey, once again, you and I are, you know,
(38:57):
in the same situation with this, and I know I'm
just like talking about some of the guys in this room,
and I know other people are as well. But we
are in the mindset of playing the long game. And
that's why I think yesterday's game is not as frustrating
to me as a lot of people out there publicly.
You know, I put out a video and I was like, listen,
I'm not as upset maybe as you'd think I got
(39:19):
a lot of people that are like, you know, upset
that I'm not upset, and I'm like, what I'm looking now,
this could all blow up in my face, in some
other people's faces. Obviously, the Vikings have long term plans too,
but I'm looking at this as a at least a
two to three year plan, and it is going to
have some rough patches in there, and we're gonna have
(39:40):
some bright spots in there. And again, if we get
at the end of the season and we're like, man,
this kid is starting to figure out every single game,
there's something that you can pull that is like, that's
an improvement, that's an improvement, that's an improvement. That's what
I'm looking for because I truly believe in building this
team from the youth, from the draft. That's winning football
and always going out in piece mealing the quarterback position
(40:03):
and always crossing your fingers like, oh, we got to
pay this guy eighty million dollars and we don't know
if he's going to fit in this scheme and we
don't have how we allocated eighty million dollars one hundred
million dollars to this guy, like and we're hoping why
not just draft a guy and develop him. This is
what developmental quarterbacks look like. It and it baffles me.
The fan base out there thinking that it was going
(40:25):
to be an All Pro Pro Bowl player in his
first year and his fourth this start like what did
you expect? Every every Hall of Fame quarterback goes through
a really rough season, season and a half before they
really start to figure it out. This is what developmental
quarterbacks look like. I'm sorry that you can't look further
(40:46):
down the road, and I'm not saying and I'm not
saying that you shouldn't be a little frustrated because we
have seventeen these suckers and everyone of these they matter
to a lot of people. But this, this is what
a developmental quarterback situation looks like. And I know it
kind of sucks, but you got to have the bigger
(41:07):
picture of mine.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Let's double down a little bit. Let's go back and
try not to do revisionist history. What the Vikings had
to do when they discussed Sam Donald and Daniel Jones
and bringing in Aaron Rodgers is not just can we
be competitive? I think everybody understands if you have one
of those three guys and they're more more than ready
compared to JJ McCarthy. You're going to be more competitive
(41:28):
than JJ's ups and downs. But with the roster we
just discussed that it's sneakily older than we thought, and
maybe some of these guys are overpaid. Can you win
a Super Bowl this year with Daniel Jones, Sam Donald
and Aaron Rodgers? Obviously they I think they said before
the season, I don't think that we're that close where
we're a Donald or Jones, when again, nobody knew Daniel
(41:51):
Jones was going to be this good, so I don't
even think he's in the conversation. To be fair, it
was really Donald or Rodgers. But anyway, that's what they
decided is. I don't think think this is a super
Bowl roster. We could be pretty good. If JJ is
pretty good, we could be competitive. We could be maybe
sneakily surprisingly good. It just hasn't worked out yet. But
I don't I don't think we'd be a super Bowl
(42:13):
contender with any of the teams we just or guys
we just named. Even with Darnold we had that's what
we had last year and we got our asses kicked.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
I'd much rather do what we're doing, and just even
if it's wrong.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
It is tough though, because obviously Justin Jefferson is another
year older.
Speaker 9 (42:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Yeah, like my dad said earlier, did I get together
and talk about this?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Well, that's a question, then, is it? He would you
trade him for draft picks?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean at some point, but because at some point
he's going to get pissed and say, I'm not sitting
through this for three more years.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You're talking about Jefferson. I think you're talking about McCarthy's Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Uh I.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Bank Stadium to the ground. Do you remember the Moss trade?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Everybody got super pissed jeffersonj Cutt with thirty three seconds.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Johnny Krazinski asked.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Him about that yesterday after the game, about the windows
tight young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
How frustrating is that? If you can find it?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, I can find that.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
What's thee though? He basically said what he said, Yeah,
it's frustrating. I mean, I was surprised he kind of
went down that road.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
He's not wrong, you know, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Like, but I'm saying, if he's frustrated now and they
end up six and whatever in the off season, he
might say screw this I got three years ago.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
He doesn't seem like I'm not him. Well, that's not him.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
The thing is like, just because you would ask for
a trade, Drinker, doesn't mean Jefferson's trade to go sit
in the corner.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm not saying it's that that that it that the
team would trade him. I'm saying he may say what
if if what Ben says is true and it's a
two or three year project with no chance. As you said, Corey,
they started the year without thinking they're going to win
a super Bowl, he might say, well, screw this, I'm
I'm gonna go in and go give me a team
that can win a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
If he demands a trade, and I don't think he would.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
If he demands a trade, that's very different than koys,
he just going worshipping them, right Like that's then we
have a Luca down Sage situation and the fan base
is super pissed. No, I don't think he. I don't
think he would request a trade.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Well, I'll play that audio when we get back, because
I did find it good good.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
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