Hawk talks with Michael Shynes & The Long Way Home

Episode Transcript

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Hey, it's Chris Hockey. Welcometo the After Party Podcast. We don't

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do these very often, but everynow and again, when something BIG's coming
up, I get a chance todo an interview, I throw one in
and today's one of those days.My buddy Michael Shines. If you're a
Power Trip listener, or if you'rejust a music fan in the Twin Cities
area, Saint Cloud area, youknow of Michael Shin's a fantastic artist.
He's got a brand new project,a brand new band, a superstar all
star band called Michael Shines and theLong Way Home. It's mister Shines himself

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and then the superstar Tommy v hisson Bennett Vee and Isaac Leavy, who
is a wonder kid. Just anall star band of musicians who put together
some songs. They're gonna put onan EP here. They've got a brand
new announcement for a show coming upat the Paramount Theater on May twenty fourth
in Saint Cloud. They're going tobe walking into some different musicians into the

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core of the band from time totime, but five songs about to be
released released. I will play someof those today as we do a little
bit of an interview with him.I want to start the entire podcast though
a debuting one of their new songs. This is Michael Shines and the Long
Way Home. This is a songcalled Cannonball speaking a long time though to

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explain why we should get married.Your parents think on loser as such,
they have told me half as much, A keep pictures and and a keep

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pictures and not through a weapon andlembs of frustration, change and in happiness.
He's gonna be a shot conde werethis could be I courtin come you

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followed the whole side fading bad inthe ball. The very distastuitment can get
out like that Styles movie was snowingseeds of decent him some clothes they can

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smell lid. I suppose the lackof success and all the humble prids they
can use now talking with friends andother people who could impossibly get a ship.

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He's gonna be a shot coming word. This could be a court.
He found out the whole sun offading killing ball even loved every day to

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celebrate bringing together the couple, andnobody believes in me again. If anyone,
He's gonna be a shot could word? This could be a Court,
comp Father, the Hoop Fame.He's gotta be shot. Come word,

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this could be I could come thehop fa See why I'm excited about it.
That is Cannonball My Michael Shines andthe long Way Home. They've got
a show again. It's May twentyfourth, coming right up here at the

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Paramout Theater and Saint clau get yourtickets right now. Michael Shines dot com
slash the long Way Home. Andspeaking of those fellas, let's bring him
on the phone right now, Yo, Yo, what's happening. We got
the gang, we got Bennett,we got Tommy, we got me.
What more do you need? Idon't need anything more than that. Hey,
hey, hey, digress, He'ssaying, hey, hey man,
how's it going? Hey? Everybodcan you hear me? Okay? Tech

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check one too, everybody hear me? Okay? Yeah, So gentlemen,
First of all, where am Italking to you from? Right now?
What studio are you at? Inwhat city? We are at Rock House
Studio in Saint Joseph's hobby studio.Yeah, the famous studio. I've heard
so much about it. I've notbeen lucky enough to record in there yet.
I hear this is a beautiful placeand a very creative feeling when you
walk through the studio doors. Yeah, for sure, we're we're pretty proud

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of it. We've been running it. This is Tommy, by the way,
we've been running it for about twentyyears. And yeah, it's turned
into kind of a co Op Boysclub, great creative hang and and that's
all you have to do is textMichael or me and you can come anytime
you want. Like that happened.I would love that. And again,
you guys have obviously the new technologythe way of the new way of doing
things, but from what I'm told, you do a little bit of the

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old school way of doing things inthat studio as well. Am I right
about that? Yeah, we're stillusing a lot of analog freeze and you
know, trying to do less inthe computer and more in the rooms,
if that makes sense. You know, we're we still kind of pride ourselves
on getting goods into a room andand trying to capture that magic rather than
just dumping a bunch of stuff intoa computer and then editing all day long.

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Handle, Tommy, can you tellthe difference. I know a lot
of great musicians out there, andeven some people that are averaging musicians when
when they're listening to something they tellme they can hear the difference between digital
analog as as somebody who's been doingthis your whole life. Is it obvious
to you when you hear something likethat, Yeah, it is, it
is. I mean it's there's justa warmth and a depth with analog that

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that you really you can replicate,you know a little bit with the with
the digital stuff, you know,But it all depends how you use it.
I mean, I think you canuse digital the digital technology in a
very warm and creative way, youknow. I think the more human interaction
you have, the more real aproject is going to sound, regardless of
how you record it. So that'swhat we try to do. We try

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to marry the two worlds and andget the best of both, you know.
Yeah, and interesting, especially Michaelon this project, because I know
you are a guy who can sitin a room with his guitar and various
computer things and create tracks all byyourself. But this is a band we're
talking about, Michael Shines and TheLong Way Home, So it would make
sense that you'd want to record ina studio and do some analog stuff because

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that's how bands create music, orat least we used to back in the
day, right totally. And thena lot of it comes down to the
players that you have on board.So it's like, I think, when
you have the right people in theright places, you almost get a synergistic
effect when you're all performing together,as opposed to if you're playing with a
bunch of players that need, youknow, five or ten takes to get
it right, you're better off separatingit. So a lot of it is

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the scenario that you find yourself intoo. You know, not to get
too far into the weeds on this, but we were just talking about this
on the part of Morning Show theother day. Incubus has re released one
of their great records and they recutall of the tracks. Now I'm going
to guess behind the scenes, ithas something to do with the record company
owning the rights to this and theywant to own the rights to that.
And I know our friends in QuietDrive have had some issues with their old

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record company on that as well,Taylor Swift to recut her records and such
like that. I'm wondering, like, is it a you know, a
situation where you're you're feeling the needto be in a band, something like
this, something where you get anopportunity to flush out music with other people.
Did everybody write the song these songstogether? I feel mostly, I
mean, at this point I'm bringinglike the core of an idea together and

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then we're shaping kind of more thesonic and arrangement parts. But I think
the long term goal is is toget through collaboration here. But yeah,
I think my need for wanting tobe in a band was just the community
aspect of camaraderie. You get hiredof being a solo guy loading his guitar
in and driving all these places byyourself and not having that communal thing.

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And so we had our first showin Little Falls, and it was like
the most brotherhood I've felt on stagein my whole career of playing music.
And there's just a really special feeling. And sometimes you give up other things
to get more of an intangible thing. As you well know. I know
that you're somebody who loves to playmusic with some of your closest friends.

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I love it so much and beenso lucky. I don't know what it
is about that area where you guysare all at and where you guys are
all from. But there's something inthe water everybody in that area. And
not only do you all know eachother, there's so many incredible musicians,
incredible songwriters, incredible artists of alltypes. And I'm just lucky that I
found my way into all that becauseI love to see the camaraderie between all
of you guys, whether you're inthe same band or whether you're in different

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bands as well. Tell me aboutthe idea of putting together a band with
a core, but you also say, at least on the website that you'll
have different musicians joining from time totime. Is that going to continue to
be the situation? Yeah, Imean I think we have. We have
Teddy Manderfeldt from juce As Wolw It'sgoing to join us at the Paramount Stretch.
Was going to be there, butI think the Dyllos booked something that

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figures out and yeah, and sowe're just like I think two. It's
cool because there is so much talentin this area. A lot of them
are involved with tribute and cover projectsto be able to bring in people for
a more original focus thing and theydon't have to be committed to it.
They can just kind of bring theirtheir their sauce, you know, and
you touched on it that that youknow, we are. It's an odd

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situation because we are all friends uphere. I mean, you know,
I go back with Sadillos guys fortyyears, which is I'm dating myself there,
But you know, I mean we'vewe've all been great friends for a
long time. And and so,like I alluded to before, this kind
of idea of of you know,like the good old boys club, and
not necessarily just with boys, butbecause we have a lot of great women

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musicians you know in the area too, but you know, just bringing our
friends in and and and it's aspace where you can just come in and
try stuff. And you know,what better way to do that than with
with people that you're already friends with. So it's incredible because the rules have
changed so much, if there everwere rules. But you know what I'm
saying, I love the idea ofthe well, the Tuesday night music club
thing, the Sheryl Crow thing fromback in the day, where you get

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people in a room together and theyjust start writing and you see what comes
together and see what comes out ofthat how how wonderful to be creative in
a in a group setting like thatand just see what comes comes together when
you have those kind of minds ina room. Yeah, Chris has been
it, by the way, I'vebeen. Yeah. Yeah, man,
it's it's it's fantastic, you knowfor me and Isaac, who couldn't be

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in the studio here today with us. You know, we're both we're both
just getting started in our music careers. We're in our early twenties. And
and you know, to kind of, for one, my dad and Michael
and we talked about some of theDillo's guys, to have some of these
you know, veterans of the musicscene take us under their wing and and
you know, open up to beopen to creating with us and uh,
you know, kind of showing usthe ropes. That's that's been the coolest

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part about this for me. Itfeels like it's really it's a really cool
way to kind of, uh startour careers, you know, in this
great community of people and uh,you know, be part of this so
and and that makes sense, BenAnd And in regards to the five songs
that Michael sent me, that arethe first five five songs I've heard from

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Michael Shines on the Long Way Home. Uh, there's no real genre attached
to the five songs. There's nostraight line, and I think that is
a great thing, especially considering theway music is today, but also considering
the fact that the various ages inthis band lead to various sources of inspiration.

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And if you don't put any wallson the outside of what a song
should sound like, you just neverknow what you're going to get. Yeah,
for sure. I mean we livein a world, you know,
the world we live in with streamingmusic. I mean, people don't really
listen to music in a genre definedway for the most part, you know.
I mean you're just letting your musicstream and you know, you might

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have a country song come on,and then a rock song and then a
pop song, and you know.So I think people have kind of gotten
in this world, have gotten usedto that. But you're right, the
ages have a lot to do withit. I mean, I'm, you
know, twenty five years older thanthe youngest guys in the band, and
fifteen years older than Michael. SoI mean, I have a pretty wide
variety of things I've done in mycareer and I think we're all bringing pieces

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of our own careers to this pointin this. But yeah, we decided
when we did this that there wouldbe no rules. I mean, we're
going to write songs, good songs, We're gonna record them, and we're
going to release them, and wedon't really care if it's if it's an
Americana song or a country song,or a rock song or a you know,
there's a rockabilly song on there,you know, and that largely comes
from my history and music as beinga rockabilly flap up right bler, you

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know. So yeah, we know, no holes bar, no rules,
right, And let me tell youthe song you refer to, I believe
is a House in the Country,which is of the five I love all
five of them, that's my favorite. That seems it seems like are there
three different vocalists on that one track. Yeah, So that's Chris Cruzy,
our buddy who you told me aboutway back when we've become dear friends.
And then Maggie O'Donnell, who isj O'Donnell uh from the Fabulous Armadillo's Daughter

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and she has such an old soulin her voice, and and then me
as well, you know, Ilove that and I get to I love
that song, man, that's fun. By the end of the song,
on my very first listen, Iwas singing along to that track. So
I don't know what song you guysare planning to play for me live today.
Well, now I want to playA House in the country. Do
you want to play you? Yeah? See that? Okay, of course.

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So here you go life acoustically fromMichael Shines and a long Way Home.
This is the song, A housein the country, gimme good wine,
I'll get you good whiskey. Let'sget a high, send the country,
gimme good away. I'll get yougood coffee. Let's skin old body,
heavy green chee land scared up andgrabbed coffee cups and then sit out

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on the porters the traffic lights.Sunny sky has changed chilled from the pipe
before start at this re Bible atthe church to viewing me left no room
for the holy goats who raised upfor Famie. Jimmy good wine, A

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catch a good whiskey, scared thehigh, send the country, Jimmy good
away, A getch you good coffee, skin, old boy, the heavy
green cheek along clock Effrey money,You're working ladies nine or simple please the

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lay I as prince, repeat that'sright. City life in big city light,
start feeding far from view, tradingconcrete cars and corner every bars to
be on the other sties. Whenyou gimme goodawhite, A can't you cut
with skin? Let's scared the highsend the country. Jimmy cutaway, A

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can't you cut coffee? Scared oldbody of a green tree. You got
working boots, a chicken cook beinga please to the start of five.
You got the birds the bee Atall oak tree hooked up to an old
truck, tied for twenty miles andtwo stop signs between us and the closest

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town. If you see fireworks fromthe road, there's a party, so
come on down. Jimmy cut Away, A cantchen cutaway whiskey, let's geared
the high send the country. Jimmycut Away, A cantch you cood coffee
skinned old by the heather, greencheese. Go get a body, Kimmy

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cut Away. I'll get your goodwhiskey. Let's scared of high sending the
conte. Jimmy cut Away, Iget you good coffee, scared old by
the other green tree, again.I really do love that song. That's
that's not a lie, just singingalong to it. By the end of
the first time I was listening,No, it's weird live like it's it's

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kind of what you're talking about.Everybody thinks it's a cover song that already
exists already, and by the endof it, people are singing along even
though they've never heard it before.So that's that's a good sign. I
can't wait for that again. Maytwenty fourth, Paramount Theater, The Big
Show in the Big Room, MichaelShines in the Long Way Home. So
you've sent me five songs. Youguys, all of you have played so

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much music, written so much music. What will the rest of that show
look like for people thinking about comingto the Paramount. Yeah, we'll do
probably, you know what, sixor eight songs that haven't been released yet,
original tunes that you know are kindof it's like we were talking about,
no real genre, just on whateverhappened in the studio that day.
We've got some really cool versions ofcovers. We do a fun version of

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Scares Believe I don't know if thatyet, and then yeah, we do
a Van Morrison tune here and therewe do some Tom petty, So we'll
keep it. We'll keep it easyon the folks that aren't accustomed to fully
original band. You know. Well, just knowing you guys a little bit,
I'm gonna guess it's gonna be kindof a just a fun, lighthearted,
let's celebrate the music, let's celebrateeach other kind of show. Absolutely.

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Yeah. Like I played like LittleFalls, I've been playing for years.
That's my hometown, and this bandset that room on fire in a
way that I have never seen.And it was just yeah, because it's
just like you go to these smallertowns. It's mean, Chris, you
know this, you have to likegive them more to get them, like
get a rise out of them,I feel like, especially in these royal
communities. And so what happened thenin that room made me feel like we're

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onto something really special. And I'mhoping with the technology available, you're recording
every one of these live shows,because this sounds to me like the kind
of band that could sell recordings orrelease recordings of every live show and have
them be so different that people wouldwant to own a copy and possess a
copy of every different live show.Yeah, totally. And that's what we
love about it too, is like, we don't need click tracks in this

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band. We don't need backing tracks. The musicians like that exists within the
band enables us to really make everythingsignature. And if we're caught in a
magic moment where we want to stretchout a bridge or give an extra chorus
or go to an instrumental at theend, we can do that because we
just can look at each other andkind of communicate that, you know,
which is great. May twenty fourth, again the Paramount Theater in Saint Cloud.

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Michael Shines dot com, slash theLong Way home for more information.
You can get tickets. Let's fillthat place up in and let's see what
happens. And again, I keepstressing this as if I've already seen it,
but I can picture it on myhead because I love the idea that
you guys don't really know what's goingto happen either. You know the musicianship
is going to be there, butwhen you're with a band of this caliber,
you just don't know how song's goingto end until you hit the final
note. I love the idea thatheck, yeah, man, also,

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Chris, they can check it outat the long Way home band dot com.
I have it on my website endthere too, So either spot you
guys can go and grab tickets andfind out what we're up to. And
yeah, we're just so appreciative ofyou taking the time with us today.
Well, I love what I've heardand I can't wait to see more.
Tell me what is the future?So what is next? Is this a
long term project that's going to continueto mold itself as you go or what?

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Yeah? I mean, I knowsummers get crazy for us. Isaac
and Bennett are on the road withChase Bryant and Tommy runs all the biggest
country music festivals productions. That's whereI met you in person. Chris was
at Twin City Summer Jam out ath That's right, Doc, Yeah,
yeah, I was. I'm theproduction manager for that was for that festival,

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but I do a bunch of otherones too, That's exactly now.
I remember I was a little busythat day because that was I believe the
day that Steven Tyler was threatening notto come on stage. Yeah, we've
had all kinds of fun, Yeah, that was that was a rough day
for your boy. I A'm gonnalie to you. I remember being handed
a microphone and saying, go tellthe crowd they need to back up.
Oh yeah, thanks, I'll dothat. That sounds great. Yeah,
that's right, Jemmy. I forgotabout that. That's great, you know,

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Tommy. While I've got you closeto the phone, though, I
do want to ask you a questioncompletely separate from Michael Shine's a long way
Home if you don't mind. You'vebeen around so many musicians your whole life,
literally your whole life, including yourfather. I mean, you've been
around from a musical family. Isthere a through line between a musician and
a truly special great musician? Isthere something they all have in common?

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Yeah, there is, and itdoesn't have as much to do with the
ability to play the instrument as itdoes just the person's kind of just the
kind of passion and spirit of theactual player. I mean, my dad
is a great example of that.He was a phenomenal guitar player, but
not in the traditional sense of beinga shredder or whatever. His feel in

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his pocket was just so crazy cooland that was all just came out of
who he was as a person.You know. It was nothing he learned
along the way. He just hadthis innate feel that made him special,
and that that holds true for guyslike Ronnie Wood and and you know,
and and I mean a lot ofthese other guys that I've met and worked
with, Mick Taylor, they allhave this kind of thing, you know,
where it's just it's in them.It's not something you can label or

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put your finger on. It's justthis innate thing that's a part of their
personality that makes them such cool playersat what they're doing. Yeah, for
the most part, do you thinkthey're aware of that? I think,
you know, I think to somelevel. I mean because I asked by
I would ask my dad back inthe day when we go into the studio
with him, and he would justput the coolest, simplest but coolest guitar

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parts on things. It's like,where where does that come from? You
know, and it's just it's just, you know, he would always say,
it's just how it feels, youknow, And and to him,
that's what's what it felt. Andthen you know, I think great players
play less notes than more notes.But I think it takes us all a
while to get there. I mean, you know, I used to joke
around as a bass player that Ispent the first twenty years learning all the
Jocko stuff and all the you know, all the James Jamerson stuff and learning

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all that stuff, and then thenext twenty years trying to forget it all,
and you know, and and andbecome my own player, and then
you know, So I think there'sI think with age comes a lot of
wisdom as players too. You kindof start learning that the magic is in
the silence and not necessary in thenotes. I'm just fascinated. I love
music. It's my whole life.It's saved my life a million times.
I also love the idea of songwritingand the creative craft of songwriting, and

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something that Keith Richards said in hisbook that sticks with me that is,
in my opinion, a great explanationof what separates a great songwriter from a
good songwriter and so on. Thesongs are floating in the universe. Some
of us just have bigger antenna tobring them in, and I love that
concept. But if you're antenna's bigenough, if you're listening hard enough,
you might just be able to catchgreatness. And that might make you a

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one hit wonder. It might makeyou a no hit wonder, or it
might make you Keith Richards, right. I think when you try to touch
to make the process about anything otherthan plucking something out of the universe that
already exists here, you undermine thewhole point of it. So like,
I feel like I can hear whenall this song was written to be to
make money, you know, fora record label, or or the difference

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between that and somebody that's like,oh, this guy's really going through this,
or at least it's channeling this,you know, this emotion, this
really difficult part of being alive andjust like us all being here, you
know, And so that's the godstuff, you know. And I think
that's the most rewarded music in historybecause most of the hit songs that become
hit songs weren't four people in aroom sitting down saying let's write a hit

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song. It was more like,I'm going through this and this is the
only way I can express it,you know. Michael Shin's in the Long
Way Home the twenty fourth, comingup here at the Paramount Theater, and
who knows what happens after that.Now, when is this music available if
it's not already available to the public. When will it be available to the
public. So we have one singleout, good to Have Good Friends,
which was May third, and thenHouse the Country will debut on the day

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of the Paramount show, so Maytwenty fourth, that comes out, and
then we're just going to keep staggeringsingles out every two or three weeks,
and then eventually we'll drop a fulllength, probably ten to twelve song record
sometime. By the end of thesummer, we had thirty some songs recorded
already. We just we run inwith no intention to, you know,
just came into the studio, theTruesday night music club kind of thing.

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Yeah, and after year we havethirty songs and that's when we started thinking,
well, what should we do withthis, because we felt like there
was a lot of good stuff there. So, yeah, you know,
it used to be you'd record abunch of songs, you've released a single,
and then you'd release an album,and that's not the world we live
in anymore. So we're just gonnastagger them out and probably by the fall.
We're gonna be at the Ledge onOctober sixth up here in Waite Park,

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Minnesota's a big outdoor venue for anevent there, and I suspect by
then we'll have the record. Really, Bennett, real quick before we let
you guys go, Bennett, what'sit like to be young and talented?
Well, for one, thank you. I mean I really owe a lot
of that to these guys, especially, you know, my dad and my

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grandfather and my uncles. You know, like my dad was talking about having
a certain seal. I feel likeI was fortunate to grow up around field
based player people who play from theheart not the brain, if that makes
sense. Music has always just beensomething that I've felt and you know,
kind of pride myself as from asbeing a drummer, being able to contribute

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something to a song that makes itfeel good and it's pretty special. Man.
I feel very fortunate to have grownup around around all of this.
If somebody called you today and said, hey, our drummer Blank is sick.
We need you to fill in fora week, what band would you
choose if you could rub a Genie'sbottle and pick one band? What band
would you jump into for one weekif he could. That's such a great

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question, man, I think itprobably would have would be The Stones or
the Foo Fighters. Yeah, Imean very very good answers, Michael,
same question for you, Michael.If there was one band you could just
step into for even just for onenight, to share the stage with them,
who would it be. Well,I think I would love to step
in. Well that he's no longerwith us, but like I would love

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to sing a Tom Petty show becauseI think Tom Petty never wrote a bad
lyric and never like really a badsong, And there's a very few artists
you can say that about. Andit didn't even seem to be hard for
him, you know what I mean, Like it just seemed like that that's
what he had to say, Likehis antenna was really really big. Now,
Tommy, you've been on stage withsome of the biggest people in the
world. You've known some of thebiggest people in the world. So let

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me ask it differently to you,what was what is the single most special
moment that you've ever had on stagewhere you got a chance to look around
and say, this is a coolmoment, and where you actually felt in
the moment enough to recognize that thiswas a cool thing. Well, for
me, it's super old school,and my family, through my dad's career,

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has always been tied to Buddy Hollyand the Crickets. He filled in
the night that Buddy Holly died,and that, you know, that kind
of gave his career a little bitof a lightning bolt to get it started.
You know. Fast forward fifty yearslater and the Crickets did their final
show as a band in twenty sixteenat the Surf Ballroom and Joby Malden,

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the bass player, had passed away, and so I went in and played
bass as a member of the Cricketsof Buddy Holly's Crickets. Of course,
Buddy wasn't there, he had beendead forever. But you know, the
rest of the guys in the bandwere like family to me growing up.
They were my dad's closest friends.He worked with them all of his career.
And so to actually be able tolift on my resume that I had

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that I'm a member of the Cricketwas that. That was a big moment
for me. And I don't knowthat anything we'll ever top that. In
that room as well, where thatchair still sits, where he sat there
and signed autographs that night. Whatan amazing moment. That's really something.
Yeah, and that was just beyondspecial. And when you come to the
studio, you'll see a bunch ofpictures from that night we have blown up
all over the studio And yeah,I mean to me, that was the

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pinch me moment and it was like, you know, my life as a
player is now complete. Well,Michael Shines and The long Way Home again
coming up at on the twenty fourthof the PARAMND. Get your tickets now,
go to the long Way Home dotcom or Michael Shines dot com,
slash the long Way Home, listento the music sorry even released, Get
ready for more of it. Guys. I feel really, really lucky to

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just be like an adopted foster childwho's been let into this this world of
your to know so many people,to be involved in so many ways.
Even more so, I'm just gladto be able to hear you guys.
Continuing to feed the river means alot. I feel so lucky to have
somebody like you and the Twin Citiesthat still cares about us original artist out
there swimming in that sea. SoI appreciate you so much for taking the

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time. We're gonna end the podcastwith the song good to have good friends,
which is how I feel about you, guys. This is Michael Shine's
a long way home. You've beenlistening to the After Party podcast. Thanks
for tuning in. I was livingin a fact seat, trying to buy

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some time. How are you searchingfor me? Jails almost quittin and nobody
from WA came out to chase somedream. I stayed on his count for

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nothing till I land on my feet. That's when he said, Holly,
Holly, Loulia and man, heain't good to half good friend. He
ain't good to half good friend.I treated like a princess. My buddies

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called everything bell like calling had withthe growl in my hand till the day
she walked out on me. Icouldn't no doubt the job. I couldn't
get no release. And the fourshowed up with the cat in the truck

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to raise up a dead in me. That's when you see how he Howlady,
Louija and man ain'ty good to havegood friends? Any good to have
a good friend? How holy Holly, you Loa and man ain't good to

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have good friends? Ain't it goodto have good friend? When it's OK,
when it's stolen, when the wholedamn world's gone mad? When you're
ring with the secret that you canand tell norm one. Uh when inspire

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in the branches, you don't haveno ask for hell? Ain't it good
to have a good friend? Emgood to have good friends? Hoy,

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Hoy, Loulia, and man,ain't a good to have good friends?
Ain't the good to have good friends? I hold, Lord? Ain't the

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goods to have good I said?Ain't the good to have a good friend? Your