Permafrost In Siberia

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Episode Transcript

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Zecha. Hey, hey, allright, it's the podcast, the after
Party podcast. The Party has Happened. This is after that, the Afterparty
Podcast. I thought it was aparty today. It started off as as
like a pity party. Yeah,yeah, we were pissed right well,
but I just, um, Idon't know. It was like a Christmas
morning. No, it's like Christmasnight because you look under the tree and

(00:24):
they're like, oh my god,there's one more president under there. That's
how I felt when I found thatstory this morning. I didn't know that
man happened this morning. Oh mygod. It was on page six.
I'm like, why does it sayI heard media on page six? But
that's not what I'm here to talkto you, guys Asterning. We had
Buttner on blusons dot com. Hementioned this author that um was from either
Eden, Prairie or Dina something likethat, that he was a fan of,

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who talked about trying to find meaningin life, especially UM as you
get older and after you're an emptynester or whatever you're going through. Right,
So I listened to the guys Tedtalk and then I bought one of
his books. Um, he's he'sbeen gone for like seven years now.
He passed away, But but hetold this story in regards to that exact
thing about trying to find your purposein life and trying to find out what

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makes you happy. And so hewent to this place, like someplace I
think it was in Africa, andhe'd been going there a few times,
the taking trips for charities and stufflike that. And so he's there interviewing
some people from a tribe through aninterpreter and all that jazz, and he's
interviewing these this tribe of people andforget what you would call him, like

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the oldest guy, the head ofthe tribe, whatever you call him.
He says, hang on a second. He says, uh, we've been
answering your questions for a long time. Let me ask you a question.
And he goes, do you knowthe two most important days of your life?
And the guy the author says,uh, well, I think I
do. I think it's the dayyou were born and the day you die.
And the tribesman goes, you cameall the way here to talk to

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us. You live in this company, this country, with all this stuff,
and you don't know the two mostimportant days of your life. And
the guy says, well, then, tell me what it is. And
he says, you're right about thefirst one. The most important, one
of the most important days is theday you were born. But the second
most important day is when you findout what your purpose is. And for

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this guy who's never been more thantwenty five miles from the place he was
born, and he lives with nothingright, but he lives also with everything
he needs. And when he saidfinding your purpose is the second most important
day of your life, he's talkingabout your purpose within the tribe, like

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my purpose is to hunt, ormy purposes to protect the kids, or
whatever your purpose is or anything likethat. And I just thought that was
a really, really important and fascinatingpoint, when you find out what your
purposes. And dude, I wishI could remember his name. I'll look
it up on my phone. Goeson. And I know I've only read
two chapters of the book so far, but and I'm sure to get more
in depth. But your purpose canchange throughout life, Like your purpose is

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raising your kids, your purpose isgoing to college and accumulate, you know,
everything like that. But finding yourpurpose means finding like what your talent
is, what you like, whateveryour gift is, and mixing it with
something that really lights the fire inyour life, and that's going to change
as you go on, you know, in different stages of your life.

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But I've been thinking about that alot since I listened to Ted Talk yesterday
and last night and everything like that, and I think it's, um what
an exploration to wonder, like,first of all, and you don't have
to say alloud, because it's kindof sounds egotistical to say here's what my
gift is, right, but tothink about what your gift is and then
think about like like I love travel, let's say, right, and let's

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say that I think my gift isthat I can sing a little bit.
Okay, how do I mix thosetwo things to make the last thirty years
of my life really purposeful? Becausethere is a charity angle maybe, but
they doesn't have to because it's yourfucking life. You don't have to do
charity, right, But if thatis the part that your soul that gives
your purpose, that's cool too.Anyway, I just thought that was pretty

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cool. I thought that's an interestingthing. So I'm looking for ideas.
How can I how can I travelfor free? And yeah, let's do
this, let's figure it out?How how can we do that? How
many books do you think you reada month? Um? Probably three or
four, but I listened to them, sure, yeah, And I don't
mind the differentiating between that. It'sjust having somebody else's having somebody read them

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to you. But I'm still retainingnew now is probably the way I would
go. Yeah, And I loveit, man, I I like all
the time I am listening to somethinglike I listened to UM the Geezer Butler
book. I listened to a storya new series about a western um that
I finished that one UM day beforeyesterday. So yeah, probably three or

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four a month. Yeah. Youknow why I don't do that is because
I'm not on the road enough.Like my commute is about fourteen fifteen minutes.
Yeah. Right. So it's alot like when Marnie said, you
watch the Succession finale and stopped halfwaybecause you got tired of Like, right,
no, you watch the right I'mnot interested in watching part of a
finale, right. I feel thesame way about books on tape. It's

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if I was on a you know, a flight to Ireland and had six
hours to listen to a book.Sure, if I was you know,
like when I listen to Smartlist.It's almost always when I'm playing poker,
because then I can just throw myAirPods in. I have hours I just
sit there and do nothing. Givesme something to do in between hands and
things like that, Right, Ijust I don't want to get fifteen minutes
into a chapter and be captivated andbe like I'm at work or I'm at

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home, Like, I don't wantto start and stop that often. So
if you can do that, goodfor you. But I just I want
to binge it, and I justdon't really have windows to do that.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah,I drive a lot, a lot.
Yeah that helps, Yeah, yeah, sure. How often do you get
through one hawk? Can you go? Fuck it? This isn't it where

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you just move on? Like?How quickly and how long do you give
an audio book? You know?That is something that this sounds really weird,
but um, I have. Ihad a hard time with that for
a long time. I would forcemyself to finish a book even if I
didn't liked it like it, becauseI bought the fucking book, I'm gonna
finish it. I don't do thatanymore, man, really, yeah,
not anymore. If if I giveit, you know, Um, I
give it some time, whatever thepredetermined amount of time is, and it

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sucks. I had to start listeningto um clips of the audio book before
I bought the audio book because theperson who reads it can fucking ruin it
for you. If it's not somebody, they can also make it better too,
by the way, But so Istarted doing that. Now I give
it a little preview so I canmake sure I like the um the person
who's reading it. But uh,man, I have so many books in

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the queue that I want to readtoo, and I like to go back
and forth between fiction non fiction fictionnon fiction fiction nonfiction. Man anyway,
um but U and every time againI'll throw something in, like this thing
that I'm listening to now this UM. I was gonna look up his name
because I think it's a pretty interestingconcept where you'd try, you know,
you try to learn stuff. Butis that app that you have is that

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like an account? Can you youget his like you buy the book or
do you get like as many booksyou want them? Oh? No,
yeah, it's audible dot com.Um, it's an Amazon company. Yeah,
you're paying per book? Yeah?Yeah. Richard J. Lighter l
E. I D e. R. The book is the power of purpose.
But um, so yeah, like, let me see what an average
audio book cost a couple of bucksare Like, yeah, uh see,

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I've listened to um the Spirit ofSteamboat by Craig Johnson, Into the Void
by Geezer Butler, and How WeGo in the Dark by Segoya Nagamatsu in
the last books really interesting. Itso the concept of that book, UM,
And I don't know if you werehere, but I was telling these
guys a little bit about them.The idea that when if you donate your

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body, oh oh here comes yeah, right, got it. Oh,
it's not like what you're gonna say, is it appropriate? Yeah, so
when you donate your body to science, that you might be donated to people
who study it for uh, likethey put your body out in the woods
and have dogs and people go findyour body as if you're er. You
know. That was the that bookand the but that's not what the whole

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book was about. It was justa part of it. But the idea
of this book was that, um, there's a team of UM explore now
of scientists up in uh what Siberia. UM. And the perma frost is
melting, and so they are ateam who has gone there to specifically look
at all the bacteria and things thatare being released in the perma frost so
that we can try to fight thedisease that eventually is going to be released

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into the atmosphere. Right, Andso while they're they're up there, they
find this the body of a Neanderthalera little girl, and of course they
do an autopsy and it releases thisdisease. They killed her spoiler earlier,
by the way, that story ifthat little girl comes back later in the
book. But so it starts rightthere with them finding this and then follows

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the story of basically the end ofthe world all the way to where we
have created a spaceship that can getthrough a black hole to find another planet
where humanity can live. It's afucking thick and really interesting book and completely
creative. But the good thing aboutthat was is the little stories like that
thing about the body being donated toscience was inside this book about this giant

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thing. Wow, yeah, itsounds like a black mirror. So yeah,
yeah, right, for sure,we gotta get off the planet.
Ye perma frost and Siberia is gonnakill us. All well, and the
author, the author was so goodthat ridiculous things happened and it didn't throw
me off like um um, Soso this is a form of bacteria that

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this virus it kills only old peopleand children at first, right, so
they can't stop it and so theyum, this is terrible but and I
apologize, but it is what itis. It's a book. So um,
kids are dying at such an alarmingrate and it's such a terrible way
to die that they create these amusementparks where kids can go to have their

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last day and I know it's it'sterrible, but again um. And and
the last ride that they go onthat day as a roller coaster that hits
so many g's that it takes themout, but they're having fun when it
happens. Right. So you gofrom uh that what I talked about earlier
to this part to the next Partum. There there are these basic basically souls

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that are floating around in this umuh what's the in between heaven and hell?
Purgatory? Thank you? And umum they're floating around and they don't
know what their purposes are, whythey're there or and they can't move and
they don't even know where they are, right, So one of the new
souls that comes in is a baby, and they're like, well, this
baby shouldn't be here. And they'relike, well, you know, what

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are we gonna do? So theylong story short um decide they're going to
try to sling this baby back intolife. I know it sounds ridiculous,
but again it didn't. This authorwas so gifted. So they get together
and they sling this baby back throughthe ceiling of wherever they are. And
the next story is about how they'redoing experiments on these animals to try to

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grow human organs that can replace theorgans inside the babies that are dying.
And one of the the animals isa pig and the researchers are in there
doing tests on him and he says, hello, doctor, And so they
threw the baby's soul into the soulof a pig. And I know it
sounds ridiculous, but I swear toGod it it wasn't that the writer was
so gifted that you followed it andyou bought it. And so then you've

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got you've got these scientists who aretalking to a pig who is growing up
like a child would grow up learningto talk. Only it's a fucking pig,
right, it's a US we're talkingabout on the show today. Mushrooms
are pretty good. Yeah, Ireally love And that's what we're going back

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to Black Mirror, like you weretalking about, Corey. I fucking love
when somebody completely surprises me, becausethat never happens. Yeah, when you
get a story that's completely original.How many people in the history of mankind
have written stories? Somebody comes upwith an idea you've never heard of that's
fucking fantastic. Yeah, yeah,that is, it's it's yeah. Anyway,
So that's why I listened to books. What let me ask you one

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more book related question. What's thethe what's a book that like everybody loves
or that became like super critically aclaim that you don't get or you um
blood Meridian Cormac McCarthy. Okay,I thought it was just, Uh,
there's there's so much manusia in hisbooks that they do nothing for me.

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And I often wonder like if peoplelike it just because everybody who's smart likes
it, you know what I mean? And the stories they will get me
wrong. The stories are great,Like obviously No Countries for old Man,
great story the Manutia packed into oneof his books. It's hard for me
to sit through. I don't there'snot It moves so slowly to get to

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the point that I find myself lookingat the road signs and forgetting what I
just listened to. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying still and again, I've
never read No Country or frol Rememberwhen we talked about Coor mcmccarthy dying last
week. I still think that's incrediblethat the Korn Brothers or any boddy that
can adapt a book or something intoa screenplay. How do you read a

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book that is apparently written the wayin the way that you're claiming that they
are that Co McK McCarthy used towrite. How do you find a movie
if it moves that slowly? Right? How do you say, I know
how I can make this a littleunder two hours and be spell binding every
second for you know, one hundredand twenty straight minutes. Yeah, because
No Country was right, there's nota wasted scene, word moment. It's

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a flawless movie. They didn't wastea second. So and there's a lot
of slow moments, but there's areason, like it's building tension, there's
awkwardness. It's so calculated. It'slike, how do you read a book
and know exactly how you would putit on the screen. You just gotta
have a different kind of a mind. And obviously the Corn Brothers are you

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know visionarya, Um you got someOh I thought you raised the I Am
Legend book, which became the bookI Am or the movie I Am Legend.
Obviously, you know with Will Smith, great movie. I thought,
I listened to it. I'm lookingto see if it tells me when I
listened to it in two thousand andseven. It came out in two thousand
and six. Um, I listenedto it initially on a cassette that does

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how long to go with? It'snothing like the movie really nothing. The
vampires or zombies or whatever they aretalk and stuff. It's so that movie
was very frustrating. I thought itwas a good movie. I like,
yeah, oh yeah, the dogwas in the book. Yeah yeah,
yeah, don't see what's the otherone you like? Growing up, though,

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I remember I couldn't believe that adultscared about like who directed movies?
Yeah, well, why would youcare who directs a movie? Then when
you get older, you realize it'skind of like loving a band. It's
my favorite bands releasing a new album. Right Once you know that, oh
God, Christopher Nolan makes my kindof movies, or Coen Brothers make my
kind of movies. Wes Anderson makesmy kind of movies. You just want

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to. Even if it's not yourfavorite album by them, you still want
to. I still want to seewhat they're capable of doing. That's why
if you told me a movie aboutOppenheimer was coming out next month, I'd
go, I don't know if Icare if I want to watch, like
a documentary or not a documentary,a biopick on on Oppenheimer. Once you
say it's no one, I'm like, I'm gonna run to that thing.

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You have to watch. I don'tknow what he's gonna do with it,
but I know what's gonna be frickinggroundbreaking. Yeah, and the chance that
he misses is like three percent.I'm the same way. I had no
interest in that movie until I realizedhe was behind it. Yeah, and
then the new Wes Anderson movie comesout, I think tomorrow, Yeah,
we're gonna go. Kelley and Iare gonna go see that on Monday,
so I can't wait. I stillhaven't seen reviews for it. Is it

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solid positive? Negative? It's likeeighty percent some people some of the like,
you know, the reviewers say it'sthe best Wes Anderson movie because the
Astrod City seventy five patch was justokay. But I love Wes Anderson movies.
I keep saying, uh, yeah, you mentioned this morning on the

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show the Bear season two one hundredpercent. Yeah, that's I can't black
mirrors seventy six percent for this season, which is not super great. When
the Bear season two on today today? Okay, but but that's a that's
an FX slash Hulu show. Sois that one of those bits where it's
once a week and I think they'reall on Hulu. I thought I saw

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today you can binge the whole season. I thought I saw that today.
I wasn't sure if it was aonce a week. That was Skull Island,
the cartoon that Hawk and I aregonna watch Flash sixty four percent Elemental,
like I said, was just solid. It's a seventy five percenter.
It was just okay. Didn't hateit again, my girls loved it.
That's all I cared about. Correcton the diet coke was fantastic. Fred

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Zacho, Oh, I think wetalked about this a couple of weeks ago.
Plymouth. Yeah, that's a goodtheater. But you know what's bizarre
is I don't know how often thishappens. That other happens at other theaters.
But this is the deal at Plymouth, and I don't know if it's
a staffing thing or who gives afuck anymore. I ordered my tickets online,
right, so you pick out yourseats before well before you get there.

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Right, that's not new. Everybody'sbeen doing that. You go and
you pick up your tickets, andthe little kiosk right here give me my
tickets. They kick out the tickets. There's nobody checking tickets. Yeah,
it's essentially all honor systems. SoI go get my tickets, we go
get popcorn and pop and then I'mwalking to the theater. There's not even
an attendant to take your ticket.They just trust that, Yeah you bought

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the ticket, Go ahead and sitwhere it's like. People must be just
walking in. Wellbody's checking as longas you buy snacks. They don't give
a shit. I don't think it'scrazy, right, Somebody email me or
tweet me if that's happening all overthe twins. Really, nobody's checking tickets
like and it used to be atthe back of the day where you'd have

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your ticket checked and then you'd havelike access to like any theater that was
before you actually reserved a seat.Yeah, so like there would be times
every once in a while I'd mightdo a double feature because a lot of
people did that, right, Butnowadays, yeah, it is you know,
I think had a buddy they caughton They had surveillance and the security

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watched him go right in and theyit was what movie was it for?
What was it for? That?You can't joke about that. The Leon
Russell story, it was a whileago, was like the newest American Pie,
A terrible film. Jesus, itwas the American pie film. When
was the fucking last time American piefilm came out? Two thousand and two.

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There was like one in the latetwenty twenties, the idea anyway,
they pulled out late twenty Are youhigh by the way, he was high?
Yes, the other day. Idon't which day were you high?
Monday? I don't think Why wouldyou say you don't think you were well,

(19:06):
you were high sh they would havebeen zaolantern. It would have been
fifteen senteen hours and I can't soif it was that, then I might
have an issue with my SPA.I was telling U Mahatma Ganja over there
that that I did edibles or whateverin Vegas. Yeah. Uh, this

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is the second time this has happenedto me. I felt no effect while
I was awake, but then justtripped balls while I was dreaming, so
essentially like overdosed on melotonin. No. I had the craziest effing dreams and
then woke up kind of in ahangover asque haze, not where I was
quote hungover. I wasn't sick tomy stomach. I didn't feel like the

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room was spinning. I just knewI didn't feel normal. And that was
ten hours after I had taken himtripped balls and my dreams. When you
woke up after you taken them,Yeah, so you ught how long did
you sleep for? Probably eight sevenor there's a good chance Cory the edible
didn't kick in until you fell asleep. It does depend on how much food

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you have, and that's exactly Inever felt it, and I was yeah,
yeah, my dreams were fault high, which is one of the worst
things, and might have happened onTuesday. I don't know, man,
So maybe I need to do ita little earlier in the day, because
both times I did it, itwas yeah, nine ten at night,
went to an hour or two hoursafter that and going I didn't feel it

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again, forget it. Yeah,that makes a lot of sense. So
I was high like two in themorning to sleep. Yeah, okay,
correct, Then you should have wokenup immediately, went zeal It was core
fever dreams, lucid. I hadno planet I was on. But you're
right, faithful, you feel ityour hips? All right? My god?

(20:52):
Is it past time feeling your hips? Yeah? Barb and see us?
Oh boy, is this for thecans boat the yacht division? We
can't afford never mind, you knowwhat I'm gonna stop. Wait. Are
we going to Vegas in December?Or uh, we'll find out something.
Are we going to a yacht party? Oh? You know the um the

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pictures from that yacht party? Um, what's the morning shot of New York?
Uh? Nope, Chameleon the godor whatever his name is. Yeah,
they were on the boat. Theywere um part of that they wouldn't
drive us to Old Claire, No, we'd have to pay for it.

(21:36):
They won't reimburse a trip to theLoop, No, we gotta pay for
that right. They won't reimburse auber from a stadium for a football team
that we are there to do broadcastingof to a hotel. Cut that cut,
that cut, that bye.