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September 5, 2024 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lucas Zelnick, How are you, my man? Are you highly
laughinated right now?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm feeling I'm feeling a little tired right now.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, yeah, so you need to be what I am
highly caffeinated. But that's a fairly wall you do morning radio.
I'm done with an extra large dunkin Donuts by five
and my first Red Bull by six, which is why right, yeah,
that's probably why I'll be dead soon. It's not remotely healthy.

(00:28):
But I do like the highly laughinated, very clever, and
we're getting Lucas Zelnick here in town. How do you
feel about this though? I mean it's a great venue.
The Space Hampden, Connecticut is actually right down a couple
of blocks away from where I do my show every morning.
But it's a Friday, is the thirteenth show? There's no
superstition involved, you know what.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was actually born on Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
So no kidding. What month though, like what April? So
you're in April. I mean I wish I could do
the sign thing. My daughter would be able to hit
you right with what that sign and tell you everything
about you from those from what your sign is right then,
But I'm not good with that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah. I don't mess around with that stuff either. That's
probably a bigger superstition than the Day of the thirteenth. Yeah,
the superstition is I don't do any superstitions, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, But I'll tell you what I was born. I
was born on Friday the thirteenth. Great opening line with
a lady. That's a great opening line.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That is true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So tell me a bit about you. Where you from?
How long you've been at it?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, born and raised New York City. I've been a
professional stand up comedian for really my second solo headlining tour.
I've been at it for like a little more than
half a decade. But things sort of came together in
the last couple of years. Just the Internet helped out

(01:58):
a fair amount, and now people are coming out to
see me, which is great.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Do you hate Matt Rif's guts. I do.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
He's pretty, he's a tough watch, he stinks.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, you know what it is, and I hope this doesn't.
You know. I watched a few clips of yours and
I thought it was really funny stuff. There are times,
I guess, when you have to interact with the audience
but he relies on the look at you. Is this
your first date, and it's just like you're not even prepared, man,
you're just completely you're trying to feed off an audience

(02:30):
and hoping, I guess in vain a lot of the
time that they'll give you something to me that's not
stand up comedy.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well my show is like I'll do
usually forty to fifty minutes before I interact with the audience,
and then at that point it's like, you know, because
some people will come out to see that kind of thing.
It really depends and when it's fun, it's great. You know,
like when when something great happens with the audience, it
can be a lot of fun. But but you're right,

(02:58):
it's like if you know, if you go in needing that,
then that you're not gonna have a good show.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
No relying on that. Yeah, you can't rely on that.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But but I think it's like the show's got to
be good, you know, even if I don't interact with anyone,
and if I do and it's great, that's you know,
that'll make it more fun.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
But I did see the New York end of the
equation and that it's the word weekly caught my eye.
So do you have like kind of a residency if
you will, going on in New York.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, there's a small club called Sash Comedy on the
Lower East Side every Tuesday. That's where I worked out
new materials. So I'll go out right jokes there and
then I will take them on the road, try them
out there, and if I like them a lot, I'll
stick in the act. I'll push the you know, the
worst stuff out of the act. And then that's sort

(03:50):
of how my like hour on the road developed as
I as I.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
As I work SESSH Comedy? Is that like short for session?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think? So, you know, actually how it started was
it doesn't exist anymore, but there used to be a
hard seltzer brand called Sash that sponsored it, So it's
actually named after a drink company. Oh better, but then
it outlasts the drink company, so now it's just kind
of named that.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, that's better for like I said, I have a daughter,
I have a son. Everything's abbreviated. This is the laziest generation.
Like they'll be like, what's up for? What's up for breky?
Do you mean breakfast? Can you not go the distance?
Everything's abbreviated sash. I'm I'm gonna have a quick sash
on the phone. You can't say is it that exhausting?

(04:40):
So that's where I thought.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
For Brecky, they're like, is that short for breakfast brand?
You have to watch brands that I'm sponsored by?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Are you really no? No?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
King?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh no, you sold it, man, you sold it? Well?
How old do you mind my asking? How old are you?
I'm twenty nine nine and goes, how do you feel
like the New York scene is now? Especially versus all
of these so much garbage comes up in my feed
of people. I mean, God bless them. They're trying to

(05:12):
make it happen. But it's like, you know, middle aged
housewives at a Dave in Busters in Arizona, you know,
in this shoddily taped thing, but launching careers versus the
old fashioned way, which is the way Lucas Zelic seems
to be doing it. It's I'm coming up ugly in
New York City. Sometimes I'm on, sometimes I kill it.

(05:33):
Other times I don't you look out in the audience.
There could be some you know, a scout there. I
think I think TikTok is like hurting the stand up
comedy industry.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean it's it helps when it hurts, It depends,
you know what I mean. It helps younger comics get
better faster than ever before if they take it seriously,
because TikTok can give you audiences. If you have audiences overnight,
you can have more stage time. If you have more
stage time, you can get better. But on the flip side,

(06:06):
if you have an audience that's only looking for one
thing or they only want to see you, it can
be hard to get better because you know sort of
how to play that cloud better than if you had
to play sort of a random crowd of people that
have you know, that don't owe you anything. The fact
that stand up comedy can, you know, happen anywhere is

(06:28):
sort of cool in a certain regard. It's cool that
other scenes are doing well. It's cool that you know,
you could be at a club and touring from home
base in Boston or Austin. But at the same time,
I think New York is honestly thriving, like some of
the best comics are here right now, and nothing's going
to make you better faster than you know, watching your

(06:49):
friend kill harder than you having to go up and
follow that. So I still think New York's where it's at,
that there's no substitute for being here. But I think,
like you know, if the internet may so that people
who don't have the ability to live in New York
can have a career, Like I'm all for the fact
that the more stand up comedians who are succeeding, the
better that is for all of us. And you know,

(07:10):
the more stand ups blown up, the more opportunities it's
given all of us to make money and do our
passion full time. So I'm of a mixed mind on
that one, but I will say I love it here.
I'm from here, and I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, but it does say at the very least the
space Ballroom on the web page, which, like I said,
it's a great venue. I want to talk about the venue.
In the second it does describe your upbringing as cushy.
Are you aware of that that you? I mean, so,
I mean a cushy upbringing. I don't know if that

(07:43):
lends itself to the hard scrab a life of the
stand up comedian in NYC.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, well, you know you went to Stanford.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm seeing here too. I mean, you're just pissing your
parents off.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm pissing my parents off. But I just I wasn't
going to be like one of those kids that have
like a dad who worked in finance, and I was
going to like go work.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
For my dad.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
So yeah, I decided I was going to sort of
pave my own way. And you know, you can you
can get your kid a job, but you can't really
get your kid a laugh. So that was that was
But I like to make fun of where I came from,
which I think is always fun, and you know, address

(08:27):
the fact that maybe I'm not like this is the
most relatable guy, you know, As I tour on the
road and I do gigs in like Appleton, Wisconsin, I
mean Hampden, Connecticut's closer to home, and like you know,
I have a young fan base. Some Yeale kids will
come out, hopefully some people listening to this interview will
come out to see me. But as I do gigs

(08:48):
in like random places, it's like, if you if you
can't relate to the people who live there, you might
as well point out that you can't relate to them,
because that's the most relatable thing you can do.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
How did the day go. When you're like, I got
my m the whole family's over this catered affair. You
get your MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business,
They're like, FYI, mom and dad, I'm actually gonna pursue
stand up comedy. Yeah, this was all just you spend
a lot of money, or maybe you took on the loan.
I don't know. I can't imagine that your father's expression

(09:19):
when it's like, wait, you're what you mean that in
addition to a nine to five? Right?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, well that's how it started. At first. He was like,
that's fine, in addition to a nine to five, I
would imagine. And then when the sort of the internet
following started to increase and he started to see some
of the paychecks from the shows, he was like, you
know what I mean. I you know, A big piece

(09:46):
of comedy advice, which is advice that I took, is
don't quit your day job until comedy earns you more
than your day job.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Which but as soon as a long road, yeah, it
could be a long road for that.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah. I was very lucky in that regard. So I
got I got to that place, and luckily I didn't
have that high tank of a day's hobby either. Once
I got there, they killed out about it.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I've I've dabbled in stand up for a long time now,
for like twenty years now, mostly around my neck of
the woods. I've done New York, but New York was was.
I died once in New York, such a horrific death.
I don't know that I'll I went on first. They
gave me the choice. There were there were there were
like two slots like you can either go on like

(10:30):
right now in two minutes, or you'll be up like whatever.
And I said, I'll go on in two minutes. And
it was. It was horrific. It was bloodshed and I
don't know if I've ever recovered, but I've had nights
have killed too. And one thing I noticed is this,
and I think you're going to go through it at
the Space Ballroom again. I love this venue. I see

(10:51):
a lot of live music there, but people are going
to be standing. I've found the standing crowd is much
harder to get laughs from than people both seated, who
I find being seated imported important. Do you.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, Are you sure they won't bring in seats for
that one if they're standing? Especially news to me.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, well I see first comfort serve. I might be wrong. Yeah,
general admission seating with standing room in the back and
preferred seating in the front. All right, this is a
great venue. Like I said, we got great bands in here,
the occasional stand up comedy, so they must bring chairs
in them. But these lucas, that says to me, Now,

(11:33):
these are chairs that could be lifted up and thrown.
That's all. That's all I hear.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Man, Well, listen, if I see a chair flying at me,
I'll realize that maybe standing room would have been better.
But I did. I did the Bellhouse in New York,
which is a big, like an iconic Brooklyn theater, and
we did mixed seating and standing. The answer is like, definitely.

(12:00):
You know, it's harder to get people who are standing.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
To laugh, and yeah, they're not hated as.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Good of a time. But if you can pack in
enough people's seating, and if you can pack the room
in usually what standing room does mean is the room's
really packed. So if the room's packed, that's a very
good sign for stand up comedy. But yeah, I mean,
if I could have everyone's seating, you know, it would
be it would be my preference, but you need a
little you need a feeling of power over them, you

(12:26):
know what I mean. Like if the mic ever cuts out,
you just start bombing and there's no reason why other
than they're like, oh, this is just a guy talking,
and the similar thing with standing. It's like the fact
that you have a stage and a higher ground over
them and an amplified voice is actually like pretty important.
But we'll make it work. I'll get those laugh.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm just realizing, Well, I'm having you on right now.
This will mark the first time I've seen stand up
comedy at the Space, And like I said, I've been
going there. It's the coolest venue. I mean, you've got
a million of them all over Brooklyn and New York.
Obviously this does have a nice Brooklyn vibe. It just
happens to be in an industrial parking lot in Hampton, Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's cool. I'm excited to check it out.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, So that's why I was like, you know, I
can't you try to picture the setup at this place
where you've rocked out. I was just there for mud
Honey with my son, you know, at this sweaty rock concert,
so I didn't know they brought chairs in for this.
It's going to be interesting. I'm looking forward to it.
It's Lucas Zelnik Friday Night. Friday is thirteenth at the

(13:35):
Space Ballroom. It's going to be a great nut. You
got an opening act to I would have met is
in an evening with or what do we got?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, i'll have I'll probably have a host and an
opener at the very least i'll have. It'll be a
two person show. I'll bring a funny New York City comic.
I forget if I booked that one yet, but if
I haven't, I will.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, And if you need me to bring on stage,
I'll say, you know, live from the Stanford Graduate School
of Business. It's my man, Lucas Zalvick. It's gonna be
fun stuff. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for coming
on this morning.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Take care, but
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