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November 14, 2025 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peter. Here, there you go, Peter Shin, the associate director
of Epstein Justice. Welcome to the show. I appreciate you
being flexible this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, my pleasure. Glad to be here and glad to
talk about this important subject to the American people.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, it's interesting too. So you work alongside Nick Brian
and he's the guy who first acquired and published Epstein's
Black Book back in twenty fifteen. Do you work alongside
each other?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, actually, Nick and I are friends. That's our relationship.
In fact, he and I. I'm the associate director of
Epstein Justice and Nick is the director of Epstein Justice,
and he and I got together and founded this nonpartisan
nonprofit in order to finally get some justice for the
victims of Jeffrey Epstein, who the Department of Justice say

(00:55):
number over one thousand children.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, okay, and I can finally get some real answers
that the mainstream media is just refusing to give because
they're just making it all about Trump, which is involvement
and whoever is involved in You know, I do want
to know, But what I really want to know is
ages consent, if there was any not that you know,

(01:22):
the stuff every American should want to know what was
Is there an age range, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well as a practical matter, yes, if you look at
all of the materials, the people that Jeffrey Epstein harmed
ranged in age from as young as ten years old,
if witness testimony is to be believed, up into women
in their early twenties. But the majority of victims were

(01:49):
in fact children, and even the Department of Justice agrees
that this is the largest child sex trafficking network that's
ever been undertaken on US soil. The question becomes how
did it really? The bigger question? And I agree with
you the focus on President Trump is misguided. Yes, he
may be among those who knew of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

(02:10):
I personally don't believe he participated in them. But look,
the reality is that we don't know all who was
involved or who did what. And right now, the federal
government's attempt to Stein, the efforts to release more information
about this case, I think are rubbing every American the
wrong way. And that's why it's so important for Congress

(02:31):
to do his job. That's all I would ask for,
and I think that's all any American would ask for,
is Congress, do your job.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh yeah, absolutely. The focus is like just this morning
here in I'm in Connecticut, Hartford being the capital city,
of course, and a human trafficking ring just got brought down.
People are fascinated with the celebrity names that might be
on the list, and I get it. It's high profile,

(02:59):
but it's a pandemic. It's a scourge in America and
it has been for a good long time. Now, you
say ten years old, I can only say to you.
I can only say back to you, how does a
ten year old, never mind numerous ten year olds get
to an island without parents right after them.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, the fact is is that he had more than
one residence, my friend, An island is just one location
where he had an opportunity to engage in child sex abuse.
So he had a brownstone in New York. He had
a massive ranch in New Mexico, where supposedly it may
have even conducted some medical experiments out there. He had

(03:39):
a home in Paris or near Paris, so he had
homes all over and could pick victims at will, and
he did.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
And again Ron with Peterschin, he's the associate director of
Epstein Justice. Yes, this exists, and this is what we
want tell me about the dog that hasn't.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, so to me. Now, you've got to keep in
mind some of these emails are released without sufficient context, right,
of course, on both sides of the aisle, of course.
So the context here is at twenty eleven, Jeffrey Epstein
has recently been released from his sweetheart deal where he
got to sleep in the jail overnight and conduct all
of his nefarious activities during the day, and he's worried

(04:23):
about his pr and that's really what this is all about.
Jeffrey Epstein is trying to get back and eventually does
get back into the good graces of people in high society.
And he's worried about Donald Trump because he and Donald
used to be best friends. And that's what that's all about. Yeah,
I mean, so I don't really necessarily see anything additionally
nefarious about that email that isn't already publicly known. What

(04:46):
is more important to me, and I think to others
in America, is to hey, let's just get to the truth.
We know that the federal government, the Department of Justice,
has tens of thousands of records, including hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of gigabytes of digital photographs, videos, and surveillance
that Jeffrey Epstein himself undertook on people who engaged with him.

(05:09):
And so what we'd like to know is who's in
those tapes and what was Jeffrey Epstein actually doing. There
are those who believe he was running a child sex
abuse network for his own sexual gratification, but there's also
a strong argument to be made, given his links to
international leaders, that he in fact was an intelligence asset
running a honeypot operation. And if that's the case, the

(05:32):
American people deserve to know that their government has been
compromised by a foreign asset, or worse yet, by an
American asset. We don't really know, and that's what we
need to uncover.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And beyond that, there's no way Epstein, the late Epstein
was a one man operation. He had a slew of
people doing this leg work for him, and they've all
got to be brought down too, and they're probably back
at their jobs, their day jobs. People I think better
be careful what they wish for, in the sense that

(06:04):
when this whole list does come out, if it ever
even does, there's going to be a lot of names.
There's going to be names across the aisle. There's going
to be celebrity names. There's going to be a lot
of scandal. There's gonna be a lot of names they
don't want on that list in their mad dash to
see that there is this just one that they want.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know, I do know, and I will tell you
this that if there's going to be equal justice under
the law in America, which is what we believe in
as Americans. Look, I'm a combat veteran. I was in
uniform for thirty six years. I fought overseas and I
do it all again. But I did it for the Constitution,
and I did it for this country. And I did
it because I believed we lived in the country where

(06:48):
billionaires can't take our children off the street and write
them with impunity. Yes, and if you believe that too,
then I urge you to join Epstein Justice and demand
that our Congress hold our executive branch accountable and release
this information so we can have accountability and justice.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
How can people join Epstein Justice.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's as simple as going to our website Epsteinjustice dot com.
And there's lots of ways to engage when you're there.
Most notably, we will give you links to help you
engage with your members of Congress in order to communicate
with them. How important you think this is?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, fantastic and putting in and trying to begin to
put an end to sex trafficking, child trafficking, which is
an epidemic in America. I've been talking about it since
I got on the area in twenty ten. Quick final
question for Peter Shin, because I know you're busy this morning.
How did Nick, your friend Nick Bryan, how did you

(07:41):
come to acquire and publish Epstein's Black Book? How do
you get it?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, that's a great question and the answer is good
old fashioned journalistic ledwork. He had a source that worked
for Jeffrey Epstein who wanted to sell it, and eventually
he got him to give it to him afraid and
so then and that was in twenty twelve. It took
him three years before anybody would even take the story,

(08:09):
which shows you the institutional resistance to even addressing this issue.
And those are the barriers that you, me and every
American have to knock down for the sake of this
country's children.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well said Petershin. Thanks so again for your flexibility and
more importantly, for your service and for your work here
with Epstein Justice. We'll talk again.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Thank you, my pleasure,
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