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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brad Gilmour, Hey, what's going on, Vinnie?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We're talking?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Is the full name of the book is why we
love Back to the Future. Forty years of fandom, flux
capacitors and timeless adventures.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's the one man, That's the one Viny.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I just met Doc Brown for the first time, Christopher
Lloyd at a con, you know, and many years back.
I was fortunate enough to have right right here in
this studio with me, Michael J. Fox himself, and I
really I geeked out. It was kind of you know,
I totally geeked out. So, I mean, you know, what's.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Crazy, Vinny is in the book I actually like go
into I had the opportunity. I've had the opportuity to
interview Chris Lloyd before, but never in person. Last year
would kind of set my love back for Back to
the Future, although it never left. But one of the
things that did it was they were here in Houston
at a at a con called Comic Palooza. I went
ahead and wanted to go meet them, and then that
(00:55):
was just such an exhilarating experience for me. I was like,
you know what, I need to go back and I
needed I need to get this book out to the people.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh yeah, I can't wait to check it out. I'm
hoping it arrives today or tomorrow, you know, before we
even get into the book too. Being a huge you
got to be a huge fan. Is Brad Gilmoury wrote
a book about loving Back to the Future forty years
of Fantom, and it is true. I remember the night.
I remember the night I went to the theater and
caught that movie. I was a high school senior. I
(01:22):
was a senior senior year and leaving and knowing I
just saw, you know, some of the really special just
everything from Huey Lewis's tune to the skateboarding. You know,
it's just magical. But let me ask you this. There's
all this rumor going around about a prequel series or
that you know and Michael J. Fox may produce.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do you know anything about that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Look, there's been rumors for years that there's going to
be some continuation of the story. They're going to do
it back to the future for the guys from Cobra Kai.
You know, have an idea of to kind of adapt
it to a Netflix version or short you know, series
of some kind limited series. But Bob and Bob that
the Robert de meckis the actor and Bob Gail the
co creator and writer. They have literally said, over their
(02:04):
dead bodies, this will not happen. They think that the
story is perfect as it is. As a fan of
Back to the Future and in the universe and the
lore of it, would I like to see something new? Yeah,
I would like to see something. But if we only
get those three movies, the animated series, the game, the musical,
I can live with that, but it would be interesting
(02:24):
to see how they would kind of dive back into it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I love hearing you say that too. My daughter caught
the musical actually in London. She was doing a semester abroad.
I'm seeing the musical here in Connecticut in just a
couple of weeks. Back to the Future, Back to the
Future of the music well, which you know has been
getting rave reviews. Now, let me ask you this. So
you know I'm pretty good. I'm not great whenever I
(02:47):
know my stuff. I know my movies. I know about
Eric Staltz. You're not gonna get me there, you know, Brad,
I know a lot of trivia about Back to the Future.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Do you think you have something that I might not know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, there's plenty in the book that I think would
come to the surprise to some people. But let me
ask you this, Let me let me test your trivia here, Vinnie,
you know of the original name of the movie?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I know you got me right out of the gate.
How bad is that?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And back to the Future is such a great name too, No,
maybe it don't ring about when you say, what is it?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, so so the producer at Universal at the time,
his name is Sid Sheinberg. They were talking about the
title of the movie. This guy had some good ideas, right,
He said, Look, you should call him Doc Brown instead
of Professor Brown. It shouldn't be the springtime in Paris
dance maybe Chapman under the Sea. You shouldn't call her Eileen,
you should call her Lorraine. These were all studio notes.
You know, Docs shouldn't have a pet chimp named Shimp.
(03:40):
He should have a dog name of Einstein. These are
studio notes that Sid Sheinberg was giving out. But the
one that he had, he goes, look, I know y'all
are thinking about calling this movie back to the Future.
That title makes no sense. It is not a good title.
How can you go back to the future. It doesn't
make sense to me. The perfect name for this movie
that will make it stand out above the rest to
(04:00):
be a summer blockbuster hit. You should name this movie
Spaceman from Pluto. And he was serious as a heart attack.
That was what he said. The executive of the studio
should be the name of the movie. And thankfully, Steven Spielberg,
you know, he wrote him a note back saying, Oh,
we really appreciate your joke and your sense of humor.
It's kept us all, you know, in good spirits on set.
(04:22):
And they never heard from Sid Sheinberg again. But years
later Eli Rawls, who was the director, he had a
movie called A House with a Clock in Its Walls
starring Jack Black, and there's a scene where there a
bus stop or a bus is passing a movie theater
and on the marquee is Spaceman from Pluto. So it
was like a little nod to the title that never was,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mean, that was that was the day and age of
Buckaroo Bonzi and you know Howard the doc and but
that's the kind of stuff that can kill a movie.
You know what I always wondered about back to the
future too is. I was a huge fan of Elizabeth,
you know, his girlfriend in the first one. I'm trying
to think of her last name right.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Now, Claudia Wells, Claudia Wells, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's right, it goes the other way. That was the
interesting thing, the girl for the sequel to have the
karate kid's girlfriend, this future Oscar nominee in a role.
I was stunned by that, I remember at the time,
and she didn't even have a huge role.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm like, how did they get Elizabeth cho and why?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Uh? And the story that I was told back then,
it's not the story that's being told now by the
original actress. Claudia Wells. She's out being very vocal nowadays,
saying what was it? What does she say now that
she had another movie she was doing or something that
was an odd switch room. It's kind of like Darren
from Bewitched.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well so actually from from Claudia. And I've gone to
know Claudia over the over the last several years. A
great woman. You know, her mother had fallen ill. Her
mother fell ill while they were ramping up for the sequel,
and she said, you know, I just can't in good
conscience leave my mother's side, and so then they recast
the role. What's is interesting is Claudia Wells had a
(06:04):
kind of a tumultuous time that Back to the Future.
I guess it is one way you could say it.
She was cast and then she had a serious This
is in the original movie, she had a series get
picked up by ABC called Off the Racks, so she
had to pull out of Back to the Future. They
recast Jennifer Parker with Malaura Harden. So was Malaura Harden
and Eric Stoltz were the stars of Back to the Future.
And then when they let go of Eric after six
(06:27):
eight weeks of shooting, Malura Harden was too tall for
Michael J. Fox, so they had to let her go,
and then by that time Claudia Wells was able to
do it again. So that's how she got into the
first movie and then the second one. I think that
they get Elizabeth Shoe just because Back to the Future
was the biggest movie in nineteen eighty five, so the
sequel was going to be huge. So even a small
(06:48):
role is a big role in a movie like that.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, that's what said. That's why he wrote the book
Why We Love Back to the Future. Forty years of fandom,
Flux Capacitors, Timeless Adventures.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I sat in the studio with Michael J. And he
was saying how the Eric Staltz was making this movie
down the street and he was dressed up as a werewolf,
and he felt silly and he was very frustrated by that.
I read him the riot act, Brad. I'm like, you
can't diss teen Wolf in here, and you do all
the time. I go, you did in your book, and
he was laughing about it. He goes, I think I
(07:19):
do underrest. I'm like, people love teen Wolf, but you've
probably seen Michael J.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Fox in print before making.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Comments that he wanted in on this movie being made
a couple of blocks over, and then boom, he got
the call.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He was in.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And I think he referred to
it as wolf drag is what he said. He was
dressed in wolf drag, and that was his characterization in
his book of it. Yeah and yeah, I mean, and
then you know when you're doing that and teen Wolf
is great. I love teen Wolf, yes, but respectfully the
teen wolf, but respectful a teen wolf. It's no back
to the future. If you could have your brothers. You're
(07:56):
going Back to the Future ten times out of ten?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, so, uh well.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What can people get in why we love Back to
the Future outside of I'm assuming timeline are an all
three movie?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Are you hating all three movies?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Or since it says forty years of fandom, is your
book focused on the original?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So no, it goes through. We do the entire trilogy.
We talk about each of them. We even talk about
some of those scenes that hit the cutting room floor
that maybe should have been left in the movie. There's
an entire chapter about a cut scene from Back to
the Future too. We talk about the animated series, the
theme park ride, even the musical, which I've been privileged
to see. We really go in depth with with this,
(08:35):
and I've had a Back to the Future podcast for
the last ten years where I've talked to Bob Gail,
Christopher Lloyd, Crispin Glover, Harry Waters Junior, who actually writes
the introduction, who played Marvin, Barry Lea Thompson, so many
people involved with the film series, and a lot of
those little cool anecdotes that I've found out firsthand, they're
also in the book. So it's the entire universe of
back to the Future is featured in Why We Love
(08:58):
Back to the Future.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, so I want people to grab It's in bookstores now.
Came out this week May six. I don't know how
you did a podcast for ten years. I don't know
how you got that much material from well, there's a
universe and I am a huge fan of it, but
ten years of a podcast on it, that's a lot
of hard work. Man, that's a lot of research, I
(09:19):
would imagine. I wish you're the best of luck with
the book.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
A lot of research, but you know what this book was.
This book was ten years in the making really for me,
really a lifetime in the making. And I'm just really
happy for people to check it out.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I'm one of them. Brad Gilmore, thanks so much
for taking the time and good luck. I hope sales
are great for the book. I can't wait to read it.
Brad Gilmour, Hey, what's going on, Vinnie?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We're talking?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Is the full name of the book is why we
love Back to the Future. Forty years of fandom, flux
capacitors and timeless adventures.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's the one man, That's the one Viny.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I just met Doc Brown for the first time, Christopher
Lloyd at a con, you know, and many years back.
I was fortunate enough to have right right here in
this studio with me, Michael J. Fox himself, and I
really I geeked out. It was kind of you know,
I totally geeked out. So, I mean, you know, what's.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Crazy, Vinny is in the book I actually like go
into I had the opportunity. I've had the opportuity to
interview Chris Lloyd before, but never in person. Last year
would kind of set my love back for Back to
the Future, although it never left. But one of the
things that did it was they were here in Houston
at a at a con called Comic Palooza. I went
ahead and wanted to go meet them, and then that
(00:55):
was just such an exhilarating experience for me. I was like,
you know what, I need to go back and I
needed I need to get this book out to the people.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh yeah, I can't wait to check it out. I'm
hoping it arrives today or tomorrow, you know, before we
even get into the book too. Being a huge you
got to be a huge fan. Is Brad Gilmoury wrote
a book about loving Back to the Future forty years
of Fantom, and it is true. I remember the night.
I remember the night I went to the theater and
caught that movie. I was a high school senior. I
(01:22):
was a senior senior year and leaving and knowing I
just saw, you know, some of the really special just
everything from Huey Lewis's tune to the skateboarding. You know,
it's just magical. But let me ask you this. There's
all this rumor going around about a prequel series or
that you know and Michael J. Fox may produce.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do you know anything about that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Look, there's been rumors for years that there's going to
be some continuation of the story. They're going to do
it back to the future for the guys from Cobra Kai.
You know, have an idea of to kind of adapt
it to a Netflix version or short you know, series
of some kind limited series. But Bob and Bob that
the Robert de meckis the actor and Bob Gail the
co creator and writer. They have literally said, over their
(02:04):
dead bodies, this will not happen. They think that the
story is perfect as it is. As a fan of
Back to the Future and in the universe and the
lore of it, would I like to see something new? Yeah,
I would like to see something. But if we only
get those three movies, the animated series, the game, the musical,
I can live with that, but it would be interesting
(02:24):
to see how they would kind of dive back into it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I love hearing you say that too. My daughter caught
the musical actually in London. She was doing a semester abroad.
I'm seeing the musical here in Connecticut in just a
couple of weeks. Back to the Future, Back to the
Future of the music well, which you know has been
getting rave reviews. Now, let me ask you this. So
you know I'm pretty good. I'm not great whenever I
(02:47):
know my stuff. I know my movies. I know about
Eric Staltz. You're not gonna get me there, you know, Brad,
I know a lot of trivia about Back to the Future.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Do you think you have something that I might not know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, there's plenty in the book that I think would
come to the surprise to some people. But let me
ask you this, Let me let me test your trivia here, Vinnie,
you know of the original name of the movie?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I know you got me right out of the gate.
How bad is that?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And back to the Future is such a great name too, No,
maybe it don't ring about when you say, what is it?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, so so the producer at Universal at the time,
his name is Sid Sheinberg. They were talking about the
title of the movie. This guy had some good ideas, right,
He said, Look, you should call him Doc Brown instead
of Professor Brown. It shouldn't be the springtime in Paris
dance maybe Chapman under the Sea. You shouldn't call her Eileen,
you should call her Lorraine. These were all studio notes.
You know, Docs shouldn't have a pet chimp named Shimp.
(03:40):
He should have a dog name of Einstein. These are
studio notes that Sid Sheinberg was giving out. But the
one that he had, he goes, look, I know y'all
are thinking about calling this movie back to the Future.
That title makes no sense. It is not a good title.
How can you go back to the future. It doesn't
make sense to me. The perfect name for this movie
that will make it stand out above the rest to
(04:00):
be a summer blockbuster hit. You should name this movie
Spaceman from Pluto. And he was serious as a heart attack.
That was what he said. The executive of the studio
should be the name of the movie. And thankfully, Steven Spielberg,
you know, he wrote him a note back saying, Oh,
we really appreciate your joke and your sense of humor.
It's kept us all, you know, in good spirits on set.
(04:22):
And they never heard from Sid Sheinberg again. But years
later Eli Rawls, who was the director, he had a
movie called A House with a Clock in Its Walls
starring Jack Black, and there's a scene where there a
bus stop or a bus is passing a movie theater
and on the marquee is Spaceman from Pluto. So it
was like a little nod to the title that never was,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mean, that was that was the day and age of
Buckaroo Bonzi and you know Howard the doc and but
that's the kind of stuff that can kill a movie.
You know what I always wondered about back to the
future too is. I was a huge fan of Elizabeth,
you know, his girlfriend in the first one. I'm trying
to think of her last name right.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Now, Claudia Wells, Claudia Wells, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's right, it goes the other way. That was the
interesting thing, the girl for the sequel to have the
karate kid's girlfriend, this future Oscar nominee in a role.
I was stunned by that, I remember at the time,
and she didn't even have a huge role.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm like, how did they get Elizabeth cho and why?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Uh? And the story that I was told back then,
it's not the story that's being told now by the
original actress. Claudia Wells. She's out being very vocal nowadays,
saying what was it? What does she say now that
she had another movie she was doing or something that
was an odd switch room. It's kind of like Darren
from Bewitched.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well so actually from from Claudia. And I've gone to
know Claudia over the over the last several years. A
great woman. You know, her mother had fallen ill. Her
mother fell ill while they were ramping up for the sequel,
and she said, you know, I just can't in good
conscience leave my mother's side, and so then they recast
the role. What's is interesting is Claudia Wells had a
(06:04):
kind of a tumultuous time that Back to the Future.
I guess it is one way you could say it.
She was cast and then she had a serious This
is in the original movie, she had a series get
picked up by ABC called Off the Racks, so she
had to pull out of Back to the Future. They
recast Jennifer Parker with Malaura Harden. So was Malaura Harden
and Eric Stoltz were the stars of Back to the Future.
And then when they let go of Eric after six
(06:27):
eight weeks of shooting, Malura Harden was too tall for
Michael J. Fox, so they had to let her go,
and then by that time Claudia Wells was able to
do it again. So that's how she got into the
first movie and then the second one. I think that
they get Elizabeth Shoe just because Back to the Future
was the biggest movie in nineteen eighty five, so the
sequel was going to be huge. So even a small
(06:48):
role is a big role in a movie like that.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, that's what said. That's why he wrote the book
Why We Love Back to the Future. Forty years of fandom,
Flux Capacitors, Timeless Adventures.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I sat in the studio with Michael J. And he
was saying how the Eric Staltz was making this movie
down the street and he was dressed up as a werewolf,
and he felt silly and he was very frustrated by that.
I read him the riot act, Brad. I'm like, you
can't diss teen Wolf in here, and you do all
the time. I go, you did in your book, and
he was laughing about it. He goes, I think I
(07:19):
do underrest. I'm like, people love teen Wolf, but you've
probably seen Michael J.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Fox in print before making.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Comments that he wanted in on this movie being made
a couple of blocks over, and then boom, he got
the call.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He was in.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And I think he referred to
it as wolf drag is what he said. He was
dressed in wolf drag, and that was his characterization in
his book of it. Yeah and yeah, I mean, and
then you know when you're doing that and teen Wolf
is great. I love teen Wolf, yes, but respectfully the
teen wolf, but respectful a teen wolf. It's no back
to the future. If you could have your brothers. You're
(07:56):
going Back to the Future ten times out of ten?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, so, uh well.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What can people get in why we love Back to
the Future outside of I'm assuming timeline are an all
three movie?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Are you hating all three movies?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Or since it says forty years of fandom, is your
book focused on the original?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So no, it goes through. We do the entire trilogy.
We talk about each of them. We even talk about
some of those scenes that hit the cutting room floor
that maybe should have been left in the movie. There's
an entire chapter about a cut scene from Back to
the Future too. We talk about the animated series, the
theme park ride, even the musical, which I've been privileged
to see. We really go in depth with with this,
(08:35):
and I've had a Back to the Future podcast for
the last ten years where I've talked to Bob Gail,
Christopher Lloyd, Crispin Glover, Harry Waters Junior, who actually writes
the introduction, who played Marvin, Barry Lea Thompson, so many
people involved with the film series, and a lot of
those little cool anecdotes that I've found out firsthand, they're
also in the book. So it's the entire universe of
back to the Future is featured in Why We Love
(08:58):
Back to the Future.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, so I want people to grab It's in bookstores now.
Came out this week May six. I don't know how
you did a podcast for ten years. I don't know
how you got that much material from well, there's a
universe and I am a huge fan of it, but
ten years of a podcast on it, that's a lot
of hard work. Man, that's a lot of research, I
(09:19):
would imagine. I wish you're the best of luck with
the book.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
A lot of research, but you know what this book was.
This book was ten years in the making really for me,
really a lifetime in the making. And I'm just really
happy for people to check it out.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I'm one of them. Brad Gilmore, thanks so much
for taking the time and good luck. I hope sales
are great for the book. I can't wait to read it.
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