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November 11, 2025 14 mins
We talk unspoken rules when living with a partner and dogs doing business in the yard.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get started with a Minnesota goodbye, and we're going
to start off. This is not an email. We're a
little short on emails today. But we've got something kind
of interesting. What is an unspoken rule that you learn
the hard way after you move in with a romantic partner.
So let's get started. One, everybody needs time alone. It
is healthy to have a hobby or activity that doesn't

(00:20):
involve your partner. It is perfectly healthy to be in
the same room and do separate things without interacting with
each other.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I do that a lot. I will like play on
my phone and she'll be watching TV or whatever. So
I get that one. You don't actually fight about the thing,
you fight about the meaning behind the thing. Now that's
kind of interesting. Susan and I are ongoing fight is
this is stupid. But she wears contacts and they're dailies

(00:49):
and she takes them out and she is forever since
she's worn these, missed the trash can, leaves them on
the floor by the toilet. I found one the other night,
stuck to the toilet seat because she'll take it off
while she's on the toilet, try to drop it in
the toilet and it lands on the toilet seat, and
it annoys the piss out of me because it's like,
put it in the trash can. She's like, I did.

(01:11):
I'm like, no, clearly you didn't. It didn't jump out
of the trash can and land on the floor. And
she's like, well, I didn't know. And I'm like, okay,
you know how much it annoys me to walk in
the bathroom and see a contact glimmering on the floor.
Can you do a better job? But I don't know
if that's about the contact or about the thing of
just being sloppy. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sure, yeah, no, I can think it's about the lesson
the fact that she's not putting away and it's upsetting you.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Because if I did something that I knew really pissed
her off, I would stop doing it. Like if I
was whistling. If I whistled everywhere I walked around the
house and she's like, you know what, it really bugs
me when you whistle, I'd be like, oh, okay, Then
I would do it to piss her off, but I
would stop Another one. You have to define what clean
means for both of you. If you don't agree with

(01:58):
the baseline, you will constantly argue about whether the house
is clean. Is a sinkful, the dirty dish is clean?
If everything else is clean? Is the dishwasher? Is it
clean if you leave the dishwasher or like you know,
it's finished but not loaded. Unloaded? What about a plate
by the coffee table.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, I've noticed I have a handful of friends that
like them and their significant other if they live together.
Sometimes they're both a messy person where you know, there's
like receipts on the floor and everything is just like
kind of a jumble, or there's just like.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Hair everywhere or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I've noticed that those people are like blind to
their mess but they can only be with someone else.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Who is just as messy as them.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, so like same thing like clean, yes, but on
the other side of the spectrum dirty as well. Like
you can't be with someone who is a different level
of dirty than you.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They have to be in the same level. Same with
like clean.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think I'm clean, but cluttered. Oh yeah, I don't
leave dirty anything. I don't leave dirty cups or glasses
or plates around the first time I went over to
Susan's house she was in college, there was a glass
of old milk on her nightstand us and it was like,
you know, it had dried up and curdled down the sides,
and that was like gross, and that kind of turned

(03:18):
me off right away. But you know, we're fine now.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I realized once I started living alone again that I
am much cleaner of a person than the last person
I was living with. And it really did drive me insane.
And it wasn't that he wasn't clean, because he actually
was pretty clean. I am just like a very perfectionist
kind of clean. Yeah, And so it was really driving

(03:40):
me insane. And now, like I come home, there's not
a bunch of random shits sitting on the coffee table.
If there is, I know, it's like my own. And yeah,
it did drive me a little insane.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Another thing that when you move in with somebody here
things that you should agree on. Agree on whether it's
okay to talk to the other person if they're in
the bathroom so the bathroom door is closed, are you
able to walk in and talk to them or are
you allowed to stand outside and talk to them or
not at all. We never talk to each other in
the bathroom unless it's super urgent. Yeah, And it's never

(04:11):
never been so urgent that I remember that.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I feel the same way about like farting in front
of your partner. I know, people are like, oh, it
means it shows that I'm comfortable with you now, and
then it's like a bit and it's funny. I I
have never once farted in front of anyone I've dated
because for some reason, I'm just like I want the
mystery to stay.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I respect that, and we've had big discussions. People are
very passionate about that one.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'm here to represent the public that like doesn't wish
that they farted a lot, but like have stomach issues. Yeah,
So like there are people who like, if you're not comfortable,
if your partner's not comfortable with you farting in front
of them, then like the relationship's not going to work
because like I have to get there with the next
person I date because my stomach hurts all the time. Yeah,
And they just like have to know that that's like

(04:55):
the reality of how my system works.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, I guess that's you know, if that's how your
system works, and that's okay. It's kind of like if
you are, you know, missing a leg, your partner's is
gonna have to be okay with you need a ramp
in your house? Yeah, you know, so there are certain things.
It's like if you've got belly problems, I wouldn't be
able to say, like, h don't fart around me. It's like, oh,
what are you gonna get up every time and go
into the bathroom to do it.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean if someone fart in front of me, it
says more about me. If I'm pissed about it. I
just know me personally, I don't do it. But that's
just because I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know, I think and I respect that I
don't all the time because that's a funny bit. That's
a bit okay. Next one agreeing on a guest policy.
Somebody is always going to try to be more social
than the other, and it's important to find boundaries about
how many people can come over and how often, with
how much notice, and how much time is can they stay.

(05:45):
We have a good guess policy. We don't have a
lot of guests. But if somebody comes, you know, like
Susan's brother and his wife will come and they'll stay
for a week and they're fine, and they're the kind
of guests. It's like, you don't need to entertain us.
And they'll go to the casino and they'll go to
Canterbury Park and they'll go to whatever, and they're fine.
But after a week it's like, okay, good to see
ye another one. When your partner asked for the remote

(06:09):
for the TV they're sitting on it, chances aren't. That's
a weird one. And you need to set it aside
time for each other. Even though you're together every day,
you still need to go on dates, even though you
eat dinner together every night okay, and each of you
needs to get your own blanket. Snuggling all night is
not realistic because it's like you're with somebody new and

(06:31):
it's like, oh, I want to fall asleep in your arms,
and about three minutes later you're like, oh, you're.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Hot, touch me, sweating, non me.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I was sweat and holding my cat yesterday. I can't
imagine holding a human being for more than twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah. I think.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Also, something that like you don't realize once you get
like into the groove with your relationship in living with
someone for a while, is like you do really stop
paying attention to each other on a level that you
used to, because right now it's like the person I'm seeing,
we're never touching our phones like at all when we're together.
We're not even like glancing at them. And I just
think that that like goes out the window eventually, which

(07:09):
is fine, but it just like shouldn't go out the
window like.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Too really far, because then you.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Just like stop caring about the other person's like I
don't know, dass.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now we're out of the emails, Kim writes in, and
we're actually gonna read this one on the radio because
I can to award it to you, Jenny, because I
really like this one, because it works for the show
and for the Minnesota Goodbye. It's a little bit long,
but here it goes. Since Dave and Vaughn have dogs
and Jenny dogg sits, here's a question. Is there an
unwritten rule about taking your dog on a walk and

(07:42):
not letting them do their doggy business either peer poop
in people's yards. We have an open park area with
paved paths for walking. I always head to the park
with my cockapoo because I've got a current neighbor and
one when I live in Saint Louis Park either yell
out their window or come running out of their house
asking me not to let the dog poop or go

(08:02):
to the bathroom in their yard. Dave, I make sure
I carry multiple poop bags. I always pick up after
my dog. Of course, I oblige my neighbor's request and
avoid walking that way when they're out. But I don't
mind if I see a dog going to the bathroom
in my yard, as long as their owner picks up
after them. But I'm a dog owner. I asked this
question as I walk my dog two or three times

(08:24):
a day. I get tired of going the same way
walk after walk. I hear you it'd be nice to
go on different routes, but that would mean walking on
neighborhood streets. I'm paranoid about my dog going to the
bathroom in somebody's yard. Who would have this issue? Since
I don't know if there's others in my neighborhood who
feel this way, I just avoid the whole thing altogether.
What do you guys think that is? Joe in Woodbury.

(08:45):
I don't mind if anybody's dog poops in my yard.
I'm not there at the window watching it, and if
they do, I know that the owner didn't encourage it
and they're gonna pick it up. Now, if I did
look out my window and saw somebody's dog pooping in
my yard and they kept walking, I would open my
door and say, hey, you need to come back and
clean that up.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, I would say, I would say something if they
started leaving. But what are you supposed to do, like
tell your dog to hold its biscuits together?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like come on, like they can. Hey, some pinches just
start like pulling their dog though.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Which then they poop in the street and they go
back for the dog. That that's the way to go either. No,
it's just let them poop.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
My gosh, say, I've never had a problem when I
used to have a dog or the dogs I watch now.
I let them poop in people's yards and I clean
it up. That's just what I think people know. And
usually they poop on the side of the grass that's
like the street side, between the sidewalk and the street,
not like in the actual person's main yard.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Unless you're in like a suburb, then the mainyard is
kind of right on the road. But I think the
people who yell at you, can, you know, quit being
such a big fat goober.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Geez.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Okay, the break.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Last one, where like I said, we're on emails and
sometimes it happens that way, and that's fine. We would
love to hear from you. Send an email to Ryan's
show at katiewb dot com. It's always fun to open
up the emails and see what you have come up with,
so feel free to write in last one. Listening to
the last week's episode of Minnesota Goodbye and Dave's comment

(10:19):
about how it's hard to imagine how vast the world
is and was when we were exploring lands many many
years ago, and I think that's true. Still fascinating, how
when they sat out on the Oregon Trail back in
the eighteen forties or fifties or sixties, they would leave
from Saint Louis in May. And the reason they left
in May was because there was grass for the horses

(10:42):
to eat on the way there. And then later than that,
if you left in June, you wouldn't make it to
Oregon before the snowfell. Yeah, hashtag Donner Party, which they
didn't make it. That's why they had. They got stuck
in a snowstorm. Oh no, and they had to eat
each other. You know this right on the organ on
the Oregon trail the Donner Party. Have you never heard

(11:03):
of the Donner Party. So it was a bunch of
people they were immigrating to Oregon and they got a
little bit of a late start and they took a
shortcut which was not a good shortcut, and they got
stuck outside of Reno, Nevada on Donner Pass and they
could not get up the mountain to get down the
other side. So they got snowed in and they had

(11:23):
to they died, and they had to eat dead bodies. Yeah, anyway,
where was I so an? The world was vast back then.
It is not now. So this made me think about
the card game Chronology, which we regularly play at my
husband's family get togethers. I know you would love it.
I feel the same way when playing this game. But
it's more in fact that it's hard to imagine the

(11:43):
things that people did in year eight hundred and thinking
of that fact that humans have been around that long.
Sometimes when I'm driving, Sidney says, I also think about
what the road I'm driving on now probably looked like
even just a years ago all the time, do you really, Yeah,

(12:04):
it's hard to imagine and amazing to know that so
much is still going on that changes what we know today. PS.
Last time I wrote in, I said, hey fam, because
normally you chuckle at the deep cut, since I know
you don't like it when radio personalities say that. But
last time it pissed you off, and my mom texted
me letting me know that you pissed off Dave Ryan today,

(12:25):
I didn't mean to piss you off, Dave. I love
you all. Also shout out to my mom Jody Is.
She's probably listening to this before I get around to it.
You didn't piss me off at all, Sydney, I was
just being silly. I don't get if I got pissed
off because somebody said, hey fam. I just think it's
a really insincere thing from insincere radio people. Because you're
not my family. I've got my own family, you've got

(12:46):
your own family. You're not my family, but you're my friend.
I would definitely consider you a friend. And I like
a lot of my friends better than I like certain
people in my family. Here's one thing to think about
when you're out on a railrow old railroad bed trail.
Do you ever picture the trains they used to go?

(13:06):
I mean, think about this if you're on like the
Loose Line trail, or you're on the trail that goes
from Hopkins all the way to Victoria. That used to
be a train It was a train track.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh, I have walked on that trail. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah. And the one you walked on, I think to
Shokapye a couple of months ago. Yeah, that was a
train track. And look sometimes and think about this. The
train tracks are mostly level, which means they had to
fill in gullies with massive amounts of dirt and gravel.
And sometimes these train tracks are so elevated above the

(13:40):
gully it's like, fuck, they had to use a lot
of dirt to fill this in.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, for miles and miles and miles, miles and miles.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, think about that. So it's like, how did they
do that without, you know, powered steam shovels and bulldozers
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I always think when I'm driving through like an industrial
area and you see like all of these old like
factories that still have the signs on them that say like, you.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Know, north Star blankets, right, north.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Star blankets are like winkles dry clean or whatever.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah. Yeah, And I always imagine like people in the
fifties wearing their cute little like dresses and heels, and
like walking up and down, like going to my receptionist
shift at Winkles Dry Clean, and then like walking in
and I just imagine like the dudes with the little
fedora hats and whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
And that's what I always do. I just try and
find sure.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I love that. If you if you like downtown Minneapolis,
there's a lot of old like in North Loop or
the Warehouse District, there's a lot of old signs that
are painted on the side of the building from probably
the twenties or thirties authorities, and it's like you can
still kind of read like bills electric services.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
So gold middle flowers.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right, what do you want to talk about? Send an
email to Ryan's show at KDWB at dot com and
we'll get you on the next Minnesota. Goodbye,
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