Full Show Podcast: 01 December 2025

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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Goret New Zealand's Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full Show
Podcast number two five four for the first of December.
It's December. Ah, you'll tiede. Actually you'll ti it only starts. Yeah,
there's I forget when you'll tide starts?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
What is your tide?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's the Christmas season.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Right, I should know that this shows my naivete. But
the first of December You'll tied or no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Think you You'll tie refers to the Christmas season or
the time of winter Solstice. Originating from ancient genetics festival
of Yule, it can be used as a synonym for
Christmas time and the period between the December twenty fourth
and jan sixth. Ah, So it's not actually so when
you say it's Yule tide, you'll tied is actually after Christmas?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Christmas even tall your New Year, yeah, good old Germans. Yeah, yes,
I had a party.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's not actually you'll tide.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
But anyway, that's first of December. So there's a bit
of Chris Street chat on the show. We got some
abuse from the bug man. Yeah, rude, bloody climbarder, blug
bug man.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, came in, came in hot, came in hot.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But there was a good chat and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah bet a hunting chat in there as well, which
was great.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Some quite shocking stories in the hunting chats. And yeah,
I think you'll enjoy the show.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Download, subscribe and give us a review, give a toast
you all right, okay, I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Talk said, be very very good afternoon to you. Welcome
into Monday show. Hope you had a fantastic weekend wherever
you are around the country. Matt Heath, Hello, Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Tyler, Hello everyone, Thank you so much for tuning in
your great new Zealanders. Now, I've long steared that nine
two nine two the Tens machine here at news Talks,
he'd b is the oracle of information. You have better
than any AI, better than Google. Yep, because there's so
many smart people and just so many people that listen
to Matt Entile Afternoons on news Tooks, he'd be I

(02:15):
mean particularly after the last radio survey.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, and thank you for that very much to our
dear listeners, and there's a lot of you.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, it's good to see them the numbers going up
and op and up. But anyway, sometimes it does get
it wrong. So on Friday, you may remember that I
put out and look, this is on me, it is
on you. Yeah, I put out a medical problem. I
had to the nine two nine two oracle and look,
no one on nine two nine two was an a

(02:41):
ability to inspect or you know, what is it called consult?
What do you call when the doctor sees something.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh, I'm just thinking analyzed, But there's not quite the
right way diagnose.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, no, there's a word. Anyway, it was just on
how I described it. So anyway, what came back on
nine two nine two about my toe and the swollen
joint on it was gout? Yep, gout. Hundreds and hundreds
of people were texting gout. But I thought, you know,
I might go one step further than nine two nine
two and actually go and see a doctor about it.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Sounds smart, actually, and it sounds like a right move.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I went to a video doctor and I said, hey,
I've got gout, and they said, what makes you think that?
I said, well, I asked my listeners on my radio show,
and they said, you've got.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Gout yea, and they're never wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
On your toe and she looked at it and said,
that's not gout, that's an infected joint and you need
to get into A and E right now. Oh no,
because this could be really, really bad. So you need
to get into an emergency center right now.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
So I went into the emergency center and you know
what they said. What they did an X ray? They said,
you what you got us a broken toe? They mate,
oh mate, you got a broken toe and it's infected.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Can I say I'm happy for you? Because when it
came through there and ninety nine percent of people said
it was gout, and in fact, a railroaded the show
for a good half an hour we had gout chat.
But all that while I was thinking, that's the one
thing you don't want. And I know that you live
pretty clean for the most part. You know, you eat
pretty well. I've seen you. We lunches there, and I thought,
how the hell is Matt Heath have gouts? So then

(04:20):
when you text through and said, hey, it's it's just
an eviction. I thought, hallelujah, even though that sounds pretty
full noise as well.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, although the infection's quite bad and it's not a
good thing. It's a broken toe that got infected it.
But yeah, no, you're right beck out.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But anyway, but you so you obviously broke your toe
while you were running this marathon. Mate. I don't want to,
you know, pump up your ties, but that's pretty hardcore.
That's somewhere you broke a bone and then keep.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Pushing through this textas says, I meant that you had
gout of the head and this Texas Mars says, I
still think you should cut it off. So you know,
as I say, I'm still I still see nine two
nine two as the oracle of truth. So yeah, you're right.
I'll go to the doctor and see if it's my it's.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Out of the brain seeking opinions from it. Tex Machine
of Goods. All right, but good to hear that gap
right on to in toe. Let's go on to today's
show after three o'clock because it is the first of December,
but Christmas tree scene signs all over the shop for
people selling Christmas trees. Real of course, and traditionally many
people get them up today the first of December, twenty

(05:27):
four days before the big event. There's a lot of
questions around whacking up your real Christmas tree twenty four
days before the big day?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Can you can you get a Christmas tree from December
one all the way through to December twenty five? Actually
you've got to get it through a boxing day, so
you kind of got to get it through to maybe
the twenty seventh. So can you run a real Christmas
tree cut off in a bucket for that long? Because
I just don't think you can.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Sounds like a hard ask, so I don't support that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm a huge Christmas fan. I love every second of Christmas,
so I'll be punishing my kids with Michael Bouble all
all months.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yep, good man.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
But if you're doing a real Christmas tree, I think
two weeks is the most you can keep it going
before it gets brea and wilty and ugly.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's a long time to keep something alive like a
Christmas tree. But that is after three o'clock. After two
o'clock news out today A to need a woman who
died during a hunting trip. She suffered an accidental gunshot
wound after losing her footing rather on a steep, slippery terrain.
This is a coroner's report, so in the findings released today,
coroner I should say Mary Anne Borrowdale ruled that the

(06:30):
forty eight year old Katrina Ansley died in twenty twenty
three after her rifle discharged while she was alone in
dense beech forest inland Atago. It's an incredibly, incredibly sad accident,
but we know there are a truckload of Kiwi hunters
out there. It is a part of growing up in
this beautiful country that you've got the ability to go

(06:51):
out into some pretty dense, full noise areas and try
and get yourself a feed.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah. So yeah, tragic, tragic story. But eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. What's it like out there, hunters? What's
the safety like? Do you feel safe out there? What
are things that you should absolutely to get right as
a hunter out there in the wilderness? Yeah, it should
be an interesting chat after two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
But right now, let's have a chat about pet bond.
So new rules taking into effects today allow tenants to
have pets unless a landlord has reasonable grounds to refuse
so the separate pet bond is up to two weeks
rent and can now be added on top of the
standard four week bond to cover damage beyond fear, where
in tear it will appear as a separate component within
a single bond record, allowing tenants to claim the pet

(07:37):
portion if they no longer have a pet, and landlords
cannot charge pet bonds retrospectively for existing tenants. But this
is a massive change. I mean pet owners out there,
many would know the hassle of trying to find a
rental if you've got a couple of dogs and a
couple of cats, where the market for trying to get
into a place becomes very very small.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
So one hundred and eighty ten eighty should the standard
assumption be that you can have a pet in a
house that you're renting. So you go in your look
for a house instead of scouring for a pet friendly house.
You assume that all rentals can take pits and then
the landlord has to come up with reasonable grounds to decline.

(08:20):
That's what it is now December one. Yep, landlords must
say yes to pits unless there are reasonable grounds to clan.
What do you think about this? Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. I just think that so many people in
New Zealand have pits, so it's a very difficult situation.
If you're a landlord, I get it. Now, it's your house,
you want to protect it. But also we've got a

(08:43):
bunch of people that don't have houses and they need
to rent houses, and so many of them have pits.
And I think having pets is so good for people.
I think it's great for their mental health. It's definitely
great for kids having pits. So do we want to
rule a lot of people out of having pits because
they can't get into rental houses. I don't know. I
think the standard should be yes, and that's what it's

(09:05):
going to be now.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're a
landlord currently, how do you feel about this? Is this
going to change things for you? Have you always said
no to pets? And maybe you're going to get out
of the game, as some texts have said. And if
you're a renter, is this going to make your life
a whole lot easier? We'll say Matt that when we
rented out our place down at christ Gitch, it was
important that we rented out to dog owners. We made

(09:26):
that pretty clear, and the property manager kind of tried
to steer us away from that idea. Two dogs apparently
was a bit much. It might be a little bit
more damage to the property. But we're pretty firm and say, no,
we know what it's like as a dog owner. We're
going to give it to someone with a couple of dogs.
But can a dog do more than two weeks bond?
So the situation says a pet bond of up to

(09:48):
two weeks rent can be charged on top of a
general four week bond. So going back, now, would you
didn't charge a pet bond because it wasn't a think
then no?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Would you?

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Probably would two weeks bond and then I would be
fair about it. But if the dog dug up the backyard,
I'd probably say, you know, I'm going to take that bond,
thank you very much and sort out the lawn.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
The problem with us, and I'm sure we'll could be
pointed out on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
is that the Tennessee Tribunal seems to be very much
in favor of renters instead of renters. Yes, rentees instead
of renters. Hanging on minute of tenants instead of landlords.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Oh e one hundred eighty ten
eighty is that number to call the phone lines of
let Up back very shortly. It is a quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks'd.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Be eighteen past one. We're talking about the new pet bonds.
That is an effect from today which means landlords cannot
object to someone coming into their property with a peed
unless I've got reasonable grounds.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Guys, you've got a couple of dogs and a couple
of cats by your own place. Owners should not be
forced into accepting things that they are against. Some landlords
except pets, some don't, and that's the way it should be. George,
Welcome to the show. Diane High there, how are you.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
I'm well.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
I'm well. I have two residential properties that I let,
and I'm very much an animal person, and I think
that it is really good that people will now be
will need to let people come with pets, and paying

(11:33):
the bond is just sensible, isn't it. You pay a
bond when people go into your properties so if we're
taking animals, I think that that should be a requirement
to pay the extra bond. But I think that one dog,
one cat is okay. I think I would think twice

(11:53):
about having two dogs and two cats with you.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's an interesting point. Actually, what is the upper limit,
Because they're saying here that reasonable grounds to decline is
reasonable grounds that the person wants cats in there. I
think that's a reasonable ground.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, hundred percent. If you've got a cat factory that
you want to bring in someone's home, then I think
you can say no, You're okay with one or two,
but you bring in five, no way.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah. And I would also say reasonable grounds two cats
and two dogs, that's that's a lot, Yeah, but I
guess it is. Yeah, that's an interesting one. I would
always assume that you have to pay for any damage
that you do, no matter what, whether it's you or
your dog, or your kids or your flatmates who whatever
damage has done to the house should be paid for

(12:40):
by the tenant, right, so.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Good good luck?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, that's the problem though, isn't it. When it goes
to the tendency tribunal, it seems to go one way.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
That's right, it always is. And once they're gone, they're gone.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, so yeah, you know, but yeah, I mean, in
our circumstance, it was an upper limit of two dogs.
I don't think we wouldn't have allowed three, because that,
to me and to my partner May was too many dogs.
And we didn't care too much about the cat situation.
But I got to say, and like, families obviously need rentals, absolutely,
but children do a lot of damage, and there's no

(13:14):
way I'd be asking for some sort of children bond.
But I always, you know, all honesty, I was more
worried about the kids doing some damage than a couple
of dogs.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I've got a big family,
so you so I understand that.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, I thank you so much. Fur.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
I just think that, yeah, you've got to be you know,
way it up at this.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I appreciate that. So what is the perfect tenant?

Speaker 9 (13:38):
Then?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So, because I was that, don't you want a quiet family? Yeah,
isn't that what you want? But then you're saying the
quiet family has kids that are just running around with crayon,
destroying everything.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Ripping up the carpet, and yeah, yeah, crayone all over
the roads, wolves, I should say, But yeah, for us,
it was a family, young family, and these guys, as
I understand it, we're looking for some time before they
found a place. They had a couple of dogs, and
that to us was perfect. And part of the ration
now was that they would be thankful that would give
them an opportunity when other people hadn't.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So with that Red, So you're demanding. So you wanted
people that were thankful to be in your house.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, and then they look after it.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Just just hearing me say say you you so, because
you've told me this a number of times about the
pet in your house, and I always thought it was
the kindness of your heart, because you've got a dog
and you're renting, and you thought you wanted to You
have asked people to allow you have a dog, so
you thought the least thing you could do when you're
renting your house out in christ Church was the same thing.
But now I find out you're trying to get some

(14:35):
kind of gratitude from.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
The one percent. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call if you're a landlord. How do
you feel about this rule change? And as a tenant,
how hard has it been to actually find a property
that allows you to bring your pooch with you. Oh,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? Twenty two
past one?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
The headlines and the hard questions, it's the make Asking.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
Breakfast the Reserve Bank be a final cut?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Where are you at?

Speaker 10 (14:58):
Because I still can't work out whether the banks are screwing?
It's the Monetary Policy Committee said margins for the retails
a back up, So.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
I want us to watch that really closely. I made
that point a couple of weeks ago. We expect them
to be passing through those ocr cuts, so we get
the transmission out into retail rates as quickly as possible.
That should be instantaneous and not here. The second thing
is there are some amazing deals out there at the moment,
and if you're not happy with your bank, actually the
public should be shopping around them.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
But are those deals about cash backs as opposed to
better interest rates?

Speaker 11 (15:26):
Now there's actually variation and interest.

Speaker 10 (15:28):
Rates back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with the Defendant News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Very good afternoon. Here, it's twenty five pass one, so
actively that David Seymour says new pet born rules coming
into force today, deliver on an act promise to fix
a problem facing thousands of Kei we renters. David Seymour
is on the line right now. Very good afternoon to you, David.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hey you, good afternoon. Now, David, how do you expect
the Tennessee Tribunal to interpret reasonable grounds in these cases?

Speaker 12 (16:01):
Well, you've got to have a rent, and it's got
to be something that stacks up with a bit of
common sense. If, for example, it wasn't a part upon
block and there was someone right next door who was
really badly allergic to a pet, then you could maybe
understand that say okay, well, look, a reasonable person would
say that's not quite right. If it was a property that,

(16:23):
for example, had some sort of crazily sensitive carpet or
fittings or something that you know, you knew that even
the goodest boy ever was just going to mol and destroy,
then you know you might say that's reasonable. I'm not
trying to sort of make the law on ZD, but
you can kind of think, how, actually this is not
too hard. Key with are generally sensible people, and they'll

(16:43):
get to good results.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
You talk about pets here. When we talk about pets,
is that what if someone says five cats, I've got
five cats, let's.

Speaker 12 (16:51):
Go Yeah, Well that's exactly it. I mean, I've always
worried that your life would go on this trajectory, and
it seems that you going even faster than I'd fear it.
But look, I mean again, they're going to make a
judgment call. I think what's important is right now, the
status quoe is no. So if you talk to the
people up at pet Refuge, they take people in if

(17:12):
they're being abused and their pets are being blackmailed, you
know that they're going to hurt the pet to try
and control.

Speaker 13 (17:17):
The victim of domestic abuse.

Speaker 12 (17:19):
You know, these guys are jumping up and down about
this because they can see an exit plan for people
who are victims of domestic abuse. If you look at
people who have pets, you know the tenants housing market's
still tough for younger people. They're really excited about this.
So what we're really doing is creating possibility. The government
is saying, look, here's a framework you can use to

(17:40):
take advantage of that possibility with Right now the default
is no for so many people, and that's a massive shift.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Now, of course, you can't force people to take on
a tenant, So how do you check that the person
is rejecting not rejecting. So basically, you've got two people.
One of them's got three cats, one of them's got
no cats. You, as a land or just happen to
pick the other person. You may be rejecting them because
of the cats. But how do you know, Yeah, you're right,

(18:07):
we're not here to forepeople. We're here to create win
wins that you know what we're all about. I just
you know, try and take a sony view of the
world generally.

Speaker 12 (18:15):
But the thing about the two weeks bond that is
there to give an incentive and give the peace of mind.
So you know, you say, okay, look, I've always been
worried about this, but now I know I can take
two weeks, rent an additional bond for any damage a
pet might create and so, you know, any natural bias
that might be there, you kind of cancel that out.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
There's been a couple of techs already, David, and granted
it's just a text and there's no proof there, but
from Landlord saying because of this, they're going to get
out of the game, you think they're just hottier.

Speaker 12 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean that's crazy. You know, the amount of
damage that could potentially done is going to be covered
by the bond. The number of potential tenants that you can.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Have as great.

Speaker 12 (18:56):
And I may be a bit biased, but you know,
I think on balance, people that are animal lovers are
generally good to humans as well, So you might be
opening up a whole market of really great tenants.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So in New Zealand, Now, should it be assumed that
this is the default, that allowing allowing a pet into
a rental is the default position.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (19:21):
So if you've got if you've got your reasons, you
know to do it. At the end of the day,
if you don't want to accept someone who's an applicant,
you've got a whole lot of applicants, that's a busy market,
then you don't take the person you want to You've
You've got that right, absolutely. But what we've done is
we've opened up that possibility, and I think possibility is
a wonderful work.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
All Right, thank you so much for your time. Now,
I will just push back a little bit on something
you said earlier. When I was a kid growing up
on the farm, we had five cats and so I'm
going the other way. I now have no cats explain
so much, Matt, I'm on the trajectory away from a
crazy old cat man.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
You've just got one small world.

Speaker 12 (19:53):
Now I'm look. I think everyone should just be pleased
and proud of.

Speaker 13 (19:58):
Who they aren't. Don't let people judge or make you
feel small.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Beautifully said David. Hey. Really great, Dave Yon, thank you
so much for your time. We'll catch up again. So
that is Egg Party leader David Seymour and of course
taking your calls on this OZ eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. So it was the party that made a
promise on this and I've got their wish as of today,
the pet pond comes into play. If you're a landlords,
are you worried about this? If you're a tenant, what

(20:21):
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(21:16):
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Landlords must now let renters keep pets from today unless
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(21:39):
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Speaker 3 (21:53):
Thank you very much, Raileen so we're talking about the
new pet bond. It's in effect as of today. That
means that you can ask for up to two weeks
rent as a bond if you're a landlord, if you
allow someone to come into your property with a pooch
or a cat.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
The stick, says Davidson, was point about partartments. Apartments as
pointless as unit titles. Properties on the whole have no
pet rules in the body corporates, So this would trump
the new tendancy rules.

Speaker 15 (22:17):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (22:18):
Well?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I wonder I would have thought tenancy rules would override
body corporate rules.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, my townhouse, before I moved to this new house,
you allowed pets.

Speaker 16 (22:28):
Yah.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean that would be interesting if anybody knows whether
the tenancy laws that are governed by central government would
override your body.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Call guys, this pet thing is a really a non starter.
It won't make any difference to landlords decisions are not
to allow pets. There is no obligation for landhold or
property manager to advise an applicant as to why they've
missed out on the property. The discrimination will continue. Chears Ian.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's a fair point, Josh, how are you mates? We're
just having some problems with the phone. You stand by, Josh,
try that again. No, we're having some real issues. Get
a Josh.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
My phone wasn't working. My phone clicker still not working.

Speaker 15 (23:09):
Hey all good? Hey you ask, you pose the question
what is the perfect application? And I could say I
could profile that right now for if you'd like. It's
pretty straightforward. It's no debt, no pets, no kids, and
a professional working couple earning one hundred k plus each

(23:31):
a Year's that's what the perfect combination would be for
any rental application.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So no debts, no kids, professional working couple, and no
pets and no pets.

Speaker 15 (23:46):
Yeah yeah, So like if you look at it like this, boys,
once you start adding those aspects to your application, you're retracting.
So the more of that you have, the harder it
is going to be to find a place. But I
learned this the hardware, and twenty twenty one we had

(24:06):
a ninety day no just had to find a new place.
Had two cats, two kids, applied for thirty five different places,
couldn't find one at all. And you know what, I
found a blemish on my credit rating at that point,
and that eliminated me from working with previous realist agents

(24:29):
who would work on my behalf, and they decided they
wouldn't because of that debt. But anyway, like that text
had just said, it's to the manual's discretion. You're not
going to be told reasons why you weren't going to
be taken further through the process.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 15 (24:51):
So it's just like employment, you know. So if you've
got one or two cats and you can afford off
of that bond, that might work in your favor.

Speaker 17 (25:02):
However, that.

Speaker 15 (25:05):
Realtor or landals not going to tell you why you
didn't get the property.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call. Josh, what
about this though? Good person, good people yep, no debt,
no kids, yep, retire cashed up, retired couple. Oh no, pits.
Now we're talking. That is the unicorn, because look, I
don't want to profile people, but if you're sixty five,
maybe let's say your party list with less people rounder

(25:33):
the house when you're sixty five computer to twenty five?
I think would we all agree with that?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I know some wrong as sixty five year olds.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Absolutely, some people buck the trein. Yeah, some people party
very little in this twenty five and go hard on
this when there's sixty five. But genuinely, generally speaking, a retired,
cashed up couple with no DIBt who are also good
human beings and no pits, that's pretty pretty good.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Ten It sounds like a unicorn to me. Oh eight,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We'll take a quick break and next we'll have a
chat with Georgina, who reckons insurance should cover a lot
of damage that pits may or may not do. That's
coming up. It's twenty two one two.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Mad Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on mad Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
The'd be afternoon to you. It is nineteen to two
and we're talking about the pet bond that comes into
effect from today. If you're a landlord, how do you
feel about this that you, unless you've got reasonable grounds,
cannot say no to someone who's got a pets as
long as they pay their two weeks bond O one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
And Itita says, hey, there, if this is the lord, sorry,
Anita says, hey there. If law says tenants can bring
pets can the landlord specify that these pets must stay outside.
Does the law state that the pets are allowed inside.
I have an apartment and would not be happy if
someone's dog and nextdoor apartment kept barking. This would reverberate
throughout the eight units in our complex. Thanks Anita, so

(26:55):
fair question.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Would have to look into the nitty gritty of the legislation. Georgina,
how are you hey?

Speaker 18 (27:01):
Good news?

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Good to quick these? I have to agree with David
and a couple of the other people. And when my
family was younger, and the daughters, I was more worried
about them missing the carpets or putting a hole or
ripping up the wallpaper on the walls than I was
actually with the cats. But I had household contents insurance,

(27:23):
and there's a clause in there that actually covers damages
that your pets may cause in the property.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Right, So I.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Just think that's just something food for thought for those
who do have household contents insurance just be yeah, that
covers them. So it's the same as if you have
a neighbor who's got a screaming baby on that song
when they's got colic, and I mean, it's not your fault.

Speaker 19 (27:44):
Or their faults.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You'll know the answer to this, tyler. So you've got
your bond right yep. So currently four weeks bond and
there can be a potential extra two weeks bond for
pet bond. Now, yes, so if that goes over that,
can you claim insurance? If the damage by the tenants
goes over that amount, can you claim insurance or can
you claim insurance if it's under that I mat Can

(28:06):
you go straight to the insurance or does that the
bond and you have to go through the tendency tribunal first,
do you know, Georgiana.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
You go through your you'll go through the insurance, so
you know, hey.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, Because I think the way it would work is
with the normal bond is if they do damage in you,
it's covered under insurance, then you can charge them the excess.
So whatever that excess is, and that excess comes out
of the bond. So that would be the same thing
with the pit bond, I imagine.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Right, But surely the bond should pay all the damage
off before you go anywhere near the insurance company, right,
you'd think so, So if you've got four weeks bond
and they do an equivalent amount of damage, Well, let's
say a third of let's say that three quarters the
amount of damage of the bond and value. Then all
that should be paid off and then they get the
remainder of the bond before you even troubling the insurance company.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Right, yeah, but that's when you're in no man's land.
That if the insurance won't cover it, because it's not
and you have to have rental insurance before you can
tend and out of place, it's part of the rules.
But if the insurance doesn't it in the bond's not enough,
then you buget.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You think if you call Georgina Bill, you're a landlord.

Speaker 20 (29:15):
Yes, yes, I had. I find it very interesting because
I had a tenant to us. Can I have a
pet brabbit? And I thought, yeah, you'd have a pet brebbit.
Don't bother me anyway. They moved out thirty five thousand
dollars in damage.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh what was the damage?

Speaker 18 (29:34):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (29:35):
Part of my pipe, but pete everywhere?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Ah right, right, And because it wasn't.

Speaker 20 (29:41):
Kept in a cage, all the carpets had to come
out on the walls were damaged and it gets into
the timber flooring, right and.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Right, what's that did ignore the floors.

Speaker 20 (30:00):
No, no, no, no, just pete, oh right right right?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And did you have did you have a backyard? Because
I mentioned another thing a rabbit could do is you know,
dig burrows that go under your foundations, and that's a
potential problem as well.

Speaker 20 (30:12):
Right, Yeah, it was an inside rabbit. Yeah, it was
inside and it ended up at eight parts of the carpet.
But you can't. I used some of that webs to
get pong gone. That didn't work. They ended up having
to get the floors sanded and repollophened, collar europane to

(30:33):
lock the smell in. Could not get you cannot get
so cats and dogs and nothing compared to.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Sounds like it. Did you know that the rabbit was
going to round peen everywhere?

Speaker 20 (30:45):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Did you know that they had those little rabbit indoors
that was running around pen everywhere?

Speaker 20 (30:51):
They asked me if they could have a rabbit? I said, yeah,
I never in my wildest dreams did I think that
a rabbit would do all that damage.

Speaker 17 (30:59):
Because you don't do it?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Was that how much did you say? Would you say that?
How much?

Speaker 20 (31:04):
Was it thirty five thousand? It cost me?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So what did you have to do? Did you have
to wrap up all the floors, All.

Speaker 20 (31:11):
The flooring had to come up, All the wallpaper had
to come off the walls, the carpet was the carpet
was only a few months old. I had to get
it resanded, had to get a polyurapaned and I basically
the whole unit had to be done up and in
that time and that money. I'm talking about the flat

(31:33):
being empty as well, so the flat was unoccupied for
quite a while.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Did you take this to the Tennessee Tribunal Bill.

Speaker 20 (31:40):
No, I have a policy. I don't bother with them,
but I consider them clowns.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's a strong policy. But maybe.

Speaker 20 (31:48):
I just wrote it off. I mean, I gave the
people permission to have a rabbit. I never, in my
wildest dreams, thought that a rabbit would do all that damage.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But the thing is that you can give someone a
permission of a rabbit, but no one thinks that the
rabbit would be just free range around the house, winging
in every corner. You know, you know what I'm saying. Like,
when you said rabbit, I imagine you thought it would
be in a cage.

Speaker 20 (32:12):
Yeah, no, it was free range. I'll tell you what
I don't. I don't know how they lived in the
house because when they moved out they weren't there that well,
but when they moved out you could smell the house
from the other side of the driveway.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Oh yeah, wow, they must have loved rabbits.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well, sorry to hear that bill.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Hurricane rabbit. Thirty five thousand dollars worth of damage. That
is unreal.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Well, that's not that's more than two weeks bond, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
It certainly is. Yeah, if you get an application and
they say we want a rabbit, just question the free
range nature of that. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call, Georgie. How are
you hello?

Speaker 18 (32:49):
Good?

Speaker 19 (32:50):
Thanks? That sounds fun, doesn't that?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah? Does it?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
What free range rabbit?

Speaker 19 (32:57):
I think it's unfit to.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
A You're going to unfit the landlords?

Speaker 9 (33:05):
Yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 19 (33:07):
I think if you have a U or a property,
you have the right to decide. It's not fair that
they say you have to take people with.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Pets within reasonable grounds.

Speaker 19 (33:21):
Yeah I know, But what sort of things would you
have the legal right to say no to? That's the
thing this is.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
I think it's terrible. I think it's all well, I.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Think there's still some elements there. You can say no.
If it's a pet owner with bad credits, then obviously
you can say, look, you've got a bad credit history.
And it's not really about the pets. It's more the
fact I don't trust you can pay your rent every week,
but I don't know, Georgie, because then there'd be people
to say, I'm not really fond of having kids in
my rental property because they do so much damage. But
you can't do that because clearly kids need a place

(33:54):
to live. And from my opinion, I think we should
celebrate those who have got pets and if this allows
them a little bit, you know, easier access to a rental,
as long as that good and I've got a good
history and all the rest of it. Most landlords would
say anyway, when.

Speaker 19 (34:09):
They that's the thing, there will be a lot of
landlords who are okay with it, so they shouldn't make
it compulsory. Like the lady who rang you earlier and
said she's a pet lover and she wants to have
people with animals like you did, Dylae, so that I
think it's not good because when my kids let this

(34:31):
place out because they didn't think my house would sell
as quickly as it did. They said no pets, and
they were thinking about no kids. But one of the
couple actually had a child at sometimes, so that was okay.
But there's a downside to this, mind you. I would

(34:54):
look for a holiday accommodation with no pets that had
you know, no pets allowed, thank you very much, because
because people let their pets, it's eat off their own
plates and all less rubbish.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Some of them do. They I've never met like some people.
Some people kiss their dogs on their mouths as well.
There'd be reasonable grounds for me not allowing someone to
move into a property that I was renting out if
I saw them pashing their dog.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, that's pretty fair a way.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I guess reasonable grounds would be the property is unsuitable
for pits, it's not fenced, all shared spaces, fragile surfaces, yep,
I know, maybe the body corp. If the body corp
prevents them. Yeah, safety risk, there's a safety risk. I'm
just trying to think of one's off the top of
my head. I don't know. Over crowding too many animals, Yeah,

(35:49):
so you know, insurance restrictions, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
There's a few out there if it is reasonable, but
keen on your view. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is that number to call? It is nine to two.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.
It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Dogs'd be stalks there be. It is six to two.
We're talking about the pet bond. It is an effect
as of today, So how are they going to affect
you as a landlord? As a tenant? Nine two ninety
two is that text number? Tim? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Hello?

Speaker 16 (36:22):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Very well?

Speaker 16 (36:25):
One quick question I'm sorry. One quick tip I can
give you about the Christmas tree. Yep, by it at
the end of the first week, and make sure that
you have a clean cut on the base of the tree.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Right.

Speaker 16 (36:38):
Put it into your bucket and make sure you put water.
Give it two thirds of whatever the containers of water
with about or a cup of sugar. Dissolve the sugar.
Pour it in there. It'll drink it up for the
first three or four days. Make sure you top it
up that tree or last until twelve days after Christmas?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Right, so when you say about December seven, you get
that you do that.

Speaker 16 (37:00):
Well, yeah, yes, people to put water it.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you say when you say
a clean cut, what do you mean by a clean cat?

Speaker 16 (37:09):
Well, if it's been standing there for three days, I
want you to take an inch off the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, I see what, I see what it's saying there.

Speaker 16 (37:22):
Would cover it up and I won't want to draw
water itself.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 16 (37:26):
But on the other topic, football and pets are a
major problem. I have a strong allergy to dogs in
any way, shake or forth, but cats are just as bad.
I had a tenant that was actually electra on the
real estate. We won't go into that, and every time

(37:48):
you did an inspection it was fine, and she that
personested the cats from me. And then after about five
years I had started having couple with the switches in
the wall. And the trouble was that the cats who
were throwing the litter under the house, the cat your liver,
and then all the ants come and they caught them up,
and in the winter they'd like to go to the

(38:08):
switches were slice and warm and they eat.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
It all up.

Speaker 16 (38:10):
When you end up having fires in the wall.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Right, I mean there's a bit grubby checking the cat
letter under the house.

Speaker 16 (38:17):
Well, how do you control it?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
M Yeah, well most people have put it in the bed.

Speaker 16 (38:22):
Yeah, well I don't know, but the cats are always outside.
They were running around at night. Of course, the bits
and pieces, but that crossed thousands to get rid of that.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (38:32):
Of course two weeks bonders a waste of time because
you have to get all that picks. You have to
find the people to fix it. You won't get the
electrician immediately, you won't get the painters, you won't get
all that good stuff immediately, and then you've lost and
come at the time. So if they can afford to
have a bunch of tips, maybe they could afford to
save and come through the positive play.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, well, thank you very much. Term appreciate your call.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, well everyone has pets. A lot of people have pets,
even renters as well. Yeah, the question really is what
is reasonable grounds and can you trust the Tennessee Druyunal
to judicate that feeling.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, that's going to be interesting going forward. Well, thank
you very much. Enjoyed that discussion. Coming up after two
o'clock hunting, how's it going out.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
There talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor
Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
It'd be very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into
the program. It is six past two, so this hour
we want to have a chat about hunting. This was
after a sad report from the coroner released today. The
needed woman who died on a hunting trip was fatally
injured when she accidentally shot herself after slipping on a steep,
slippery ground. So in the findings released today, Corona mary

(39:43):
Ann Borrowdale determined that forty eight year old Katrina Ainsley
died when that rifle discharged while she was alone in
dense beech forest in the Blue Mountains Conservation area near Beaumont,
in Otago. Desperately, desperately sad situation. But we're keen to
hear from you. If you are into hunting or you
get out regularly to hunt. How is it out there

(40:04):
when it comes to keeping yourself safe?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah? What is it like at there? Are things getting safer?
Are people following the rules out there? Do the rules
make sense? What are the basics rules that every hunter
should follow as well? Not just the legal requirements but
also the common sense. I read this fantastic book by
a guy called Sam Gibson, called Sam the Trapman, and

(40:28):
he's a guy that's hunted all over New Zealand. He
used to work for DOC but he's done a lot
of great work and conservation, but is out there hunting
a lot, hunting deer, a lot, but a pig hunting.
Nice But in the book there's three different occasions where
bullets have whistled past his head and he's following all
the rules. Yeah, and he's a very experienced hunter, but

(40:50):
still still he's been shot at a number of times.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's been shot out a number of times. But these
are just the times he outlines in his book where
the bullets just literally whistled past him and missed him,
just missed him, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
And what did he do with that situation? I suppose,
what can you do but yell out that I'm here
if you're hunting in the area. But I mean, if
they're far enough away.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, hit the deck. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
It's quite a terrified situation to be.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, what annoyed him? If you get a chance to
read this book, it's great, it's you know, it's a
serious stories from his life and hunting. But you know
what got him is that the people just scurried off.
They didn't stick around and say sorry. You know, he
yelled out. They realized what they've done, and then they
just scarp it. Yeah right, instead of going on you okay, sorry,
I don't know what I was doing, you know, they

(41:40):
cowardly run off.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, unfortunate. Oh one hundred and eighty, ten eighty. If
you are a hunter, love to hear from you. How
is it out there when you do go on hunting trips?
If you had any near misses? Nine two ninety two
is the text number as well.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I mean to be fair, this isn't this is a
different situation. That's that's kicking off this conversation. This was
just a terrible accident.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, afternoon.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Lad's been hunting on my life unfortunately, never had any accidents.
It's a very important to always be aware and one
hundred percent certain of anything you do. I believe all
children be taught the seven rules, as most people will
be exposed to firearms at some point in their life.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Cheers, Nat, Yeah, good text. Keep those coming through A
nine to nine two, but keen to hear from you
if you are a hunter? Oh wait, one hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number to call? It is ten
past two. Back very surely here.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
On News Talks EDB, and I'll share the seven Rules
of Firearms Safety.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Next as well your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen
Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
News Talks.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
EDB, News Talks. There be It is twelve past two
and we're talking about hunting. If you are a hunter,
what is it like out there? How do you keep
yourself safe?

Speaker 9 (42:47):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So the seven here we go. Sorry, This is from
the seven Rules of Firearms Safety. This is from the
New Zealand Deer Stalkers Association. Rule one. Treat every firearm
as loaded. Rule two. Always point firearms and a safetyrection.
Rule three. Chamber of cartridge only when ready to fire.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Rule four.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Identify your target beyond all doubt. Rule five, check your
firing zone. Rule six, Store and transport firearms and ammunition safely.
Rull seven. Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, eighteen eighty is the number to call. John. You
were just out hunting yesterday. Is that right?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You're there?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
John Kida, John?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah, geay mate, you're out hunting yesterday?

Speaker 18 (43:41):
Yeah, I was in the Royal Henings yesterday morning and yeah,
I saw I think it was yesterday, and then ended
up bringing one home. And I was hunting with my son.
He was a sixth at the time, and we've gone
for an overnight camp into a Department of Conservation area

(44:04):
in the National Park and we shot up a king
and made a little campfire and cooked a few marshmallows,
and in the evening we walked up the road stayed
on the road because we didn't have any plays orange
were know, we're just wearing Camo gear, so I thought
it'd be safe to stay on the road. We walked

(44:25):
up the road for about an hour, turned it out.
We sat down under a tree and we ate a
bar of chocolate, and on the walk back down we
were shot at by a guy who was hunting as well.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Wow, so.

Speaker 16 (44:43):
How close did it get?

Speaker 18 (44:46):
The bullet whizzed past my head and I heard the
crack like two wooden building blocks banding together as they go.
Part of the crack past my head by my ear,
and I grabbed my son and I pulled him to
the ground and I yelled out aye, and there was nothing,
and I thought, craiky, this guy's going to take another shot,

(45:07):
and I we had a bit louder and then I
heard him say it's all right, I've just shot a deer.
And I said, well, I'm going to stand up. And
as I stood up, I saw this guy running down
the road with his rifle. I could describe everything as
he was wearing. This is a long time ago, but
they had that much of an impact. And then he

(45:29):
came over to us and I said, what the hell
are you shooting at? And he said, I saw two deer.
Now his words were, I saw two deer zigzagging on
the track and I said, mate, you just started up. Wow,
said I pointed to the spot on the road on
the track where we'd been sitting and I said, we
were just sitting under there. You can see where the

(45:50):
grass is still pushed down. And he said, no, no,
there were two deer on the track and I said, no,
there weren't. They were us walking back down And at
the time I was a little bit sinning in the
head department on the back of my head and he
it was adamant that what he was lining up on
was the ars end of a deer. So he was

(46:11):
going to do what they call a Texas heart shot,
which is a shocking way to kill an animal.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
What is that a teacher's heart shot.

Speaker 18 (46:18):
Yeah, it's a shot under the back door. Yeah, but
it kills him throw away. But it's a horrible debt, horrible,
horrible way to go. Anyway, I we walked back down
to the car, and as we were walking back down,
I looked in the bush and I could see this
guy's vehicle was parked there. So I settled on a
piece of cardboard on a packet of bullets I had

(46:39):
in the pack and the lead tip of the bullet,
and I wrote his number plate down and we drove
back home. We were like, I say, we're then behind
Wauru or towards a racoony. And we stayed the night
in the tent, just me and my son. He was like,
I say six, he's now thirty, and he's a very

(46:59):
very competent hunter, very very competent hunter, very proud of
his the way he spotned and he shoots, and he's
very methodical, very ethical, And yeah, we got back home
and the next day and he ran in the house
and he ran into his mom. Mom, Mom, guess what
we got shot at? So she said, you better go

(47:23):
to the police stage. I told her, what happened. You
better go to the police station and have a word
to the police. I went down there and a sixth
page there was. The police were very very thorough six
page incident report of what had happened, and he ended
up being prosecuted careless use of the firearm. But even
in court he denied everything. And then I said to

(47:46):
the judge, I can describe what he was wearing. I
can describe the green tape around the front of his
scope and the ding in the side of the stock, everything.
And he said, actually, you're honor, I'd like to change
my plea. If not guilty, the guilty.

Speaker 16 (48:05):
He said.

Speaker 18 (48:05):
I saw what looked like a couple of deer on
the track. I bundled up my swan drye on the ground,
lay down on the track, put the cross on what
I thought was the ass end of the deer, which
was the back of my head, and they took the shot,
and yeah, that was I heard the wizard that went past,
and the hellishly allowed crack as the bullet went past

(48:27):
my head. That was quite I didn't go hunting for
a couple of years after that. That scared the living
daylight that I bet so.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Is this a sort of hallucination that comes in because
the back of your head made it look tiny like
a deer? But do you think that the hunter. The
hunter's brain is fulling in a lot of details because
they absolutely want to see it.

Speaker 18 (48:49):
There's been tests are being carried out, and your mind, like,
I know I shot enough deer, I let them go.
If I can't fully identify the target a hundred percent
of there's one percent that I'm not quite sure. You
never pulled the trigger, you know, because we're trained as hunters,
would trained to identify the target beyond all doubt. But

(49:13):
what happens is that a lot of hunters and experience
down the young hunters, they see movement and their adamant
that it's a deer, and their mind takes over what
their eyes see and their eyes can say it is
not a deer, it's a hunter, but their mind is
saying no, no, no, no, no, it's a deer. It's
a deer. Pulled the trigger, Pull the trigger, it's going
to get away. And I've trained my son. I taught

(49:36):
my son how to hunt, and he he shot his
first year when he was twelve. And I always said
to him, you know, your second deer is going to
be right behind your first year. It's not going to
be far away. But he shot his second deer about
fifteen twenty seconds later. There were two of them on
a slip and he said, oh, Dad, I never thought
they'd be that quick together, that close together.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Hey, John, what time of night were you walking along
the road.

Speaker 18 (49:58):
It was in the summer, in the summer of December,
and that was around about seven o'clock in the evening. Now,
what's really bad about it is that there was mountain bikes,
tire marks on the track. There was people tramping up there,
just going for walks. And the place is good for
deer that you know, you see quite a lot of
Deer's a place called rangetout in behind between Ourakuoney and Wayuu.

Speaker 8 (50:23):
What I mean, is.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
There a time sort of obviously in summer it's staying
darker longer, but is there a time when you you know,
it's a bit risky to be wandering around.

Speaker 18 (50:33):
Ah sort of what they call the golden hour, Yeah,
sort of, you know, the last hour of darkness. It's
when you you know, your mind seeing the flicker in
the bush or on a clearing and you think, oh, yeah,
it's a deer, but it's actually a blackbird that takes off.
And you can stalk in on so many blackbirds it's
not funny when you're hunting and they take off and

(50:55):
you think, oh, blugg are wasted caught of an house
stalking in on a blackbird or a wood pigeoner and you.

Speaker 20 (51:00):
Know something in a tree.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Is it not rules?

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Though?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
It sounded like you were pretty close to the track
or on the track, John, Is there not rules that
you you if you've got the track in your sights,
then that's highly legal.

Speaker 18 (51:13):
No, no, not there.

Speaker 17 (51:14):
No, we were.

Speaker 18 (51:16):
We were walking on the track and this guy had
obviously been in the bush and come out onto the
road and see what he believes to be a couple
of deer. What I always do is, if I'm on
in the portion I know the tracks nearby, I'll take
a swan dry off and I'll throw it out onto
the track so that people will see something come out
onto the track. They look down and they'll see a
bit of orange that I wear blaze orange now when

(51:36):
I'm out there, just even if it's just a blaze
orange cap. Yeah, like a lot of hunters, a lot
of hunters wearing blaze orange have actually been shot in
the past. There's been several instances where hunters wearing blaze
orange have been shot. And that's because when the sun
shines on a deer in the summer, you know, like
a red deer or a seeker deer, the skin is

(51:58):
very orange and color in the times, so people think, oh,
orange is the deer and it's all over. But you know,
in this country, because there's so many people that hunt
and there are so few fatalities or incidents, we're actually
very very good with firearms with what we do.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That's good to hear. John.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, that is good news. Thank you very much. That's
a terrifying experience. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Craig says, I'd be more pissed off that someone thought
my head looked like a deer's buttle in the shooting.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Great Text nineteen ninety two is that Dick's number. There's
plenty coming through. We'll take a quick break and we've
got plenty of calls to get to. That's all coming
up next. It is twenty two past two.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk said, be very.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Good afternoon to you. So if you're a hunter, I
love to hear from you on I eatee hundred eighty
ten eighty. How safe is it out there when you
are hunting? To everybody, play by the rules, really keen
to get your experience as nineteen nine two is the text.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
The term you're looking for is buck fever. That's what
us hunters call those hallucinations, right, Jason, your thoughts on
hunting safety, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (53:14):
Good afternoon gents. Just to the previous quarter, we do
actually have a rule. It says we may not hunt
five hundred meters or half a kilometer or any walking
track or cycle away in the wash.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I thought there was the case because if it's a
hunting area where his tramps, et cetera, and as you say,
cyclist as well, that anyone who lines up a buck
over a track can get into a lot of trouble.

Speaker 17 (53:40):
Yeah, yeah, so it's actually half a kilometers away from
any walking track or or cycling can it.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Be hard to identify those tracks though. If you're out there,
you're in dense bush, you're looking through bush and to
other bush to see that there's a trick.

Speaker 17 (53:53):
Yeah, most of us carry GPSS, your garment. GPS is around.
It's got all the hunting tracks around on your hunting grounds,
which is a good idea which you cindent only wander
into somebody's private property and shot shooting at at the
things you know. Yeah, but what I was actually frailing
for is that that lady is as well, that maybe
they shot yourself accidentally. Tragedy it is. But we've also

(54:18):
got a a rule that you don't walk around the
bush with chamber and around in the chamber. So it's
the very last thing you do once you've identified your target.
You lay down, look for your scope and then chamber
around is the last thing you do before you pull
the trigger. And then once you pull the trigger down
the deer. Make sure you're going safe again, So take

(54:43):
the empty shout out if you've reloaded again to take
a quick shot. That's the buck does run away. Just
make sure that your rifle is safe and don't walk
around the bush with around here?

Speaker 9 (54:53):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
You're a pretty experience hunter, Jason? Is that correct?

Speaker 17 (54:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, time that that that, I know, complacency can creep
in and or do you stick to those the seven
rules religiously?

Speaker 17 (55:07):
You've you've got us to to the seven rules religiously.
I've got a youngster that that take with me as well.
He's twelve. And I know it's not for everybody, and
it's quite expensive, but my scope, I can actually look
at my phone or my iPad and I can I
can see what the youngster is actually looking at through

(55:29):
the scope he pulls the trigger. Yeah, so when he's
a rabbit shooting or deal possible to anything like that,
I'm always with him looking at what he's looking through
through the scope. And you've you've got to keep those
seven rules. It keeps you safe, he keeps everybody else safe. Yeah.
I think you feel pretty pretty bad if you just

(55:50):
end up shooting somebody or you know, how did you.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Get into it?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Jason? I just asked there because I wonder if you know,
I'd love to get into hunting, but I've got no
experience and I wouldn't know where to start. But do
you think there is a few people out there that
that want to get into it and maybe are not
going through the right processes, you know, if you know
what I mean, they don't quite know the rules.

Speaker 17 (56:10):
Yeah, there's a lot of guys out there that just talkers.
They always willing to help young hunters and new guys
trying to get into the thing. There's a lot of
content on social media, on you YouTube and things like
that if you wanted to get into it as well. Yeah,
I've been hunting quite a long time. When we grew

(56:31):
up with it. I don't know if you can tell,
but I'm from so Alifrica and we grew up with
it a lot back home, and then after COVID, COVID
really got me back into it over. Yeah, I don't
know this feel. I don't know whether the shops are
going to be open or you've been able to feed
your family toping And I've just got back into it
and the kids love it as well.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
So there's a text to here, Jason that says if
the seven basic rules are followed by everyone, there would
be no accidents. But like everything, there's a few cowboys
that ruin it for everyone. Do you come across cowboys
and you when you're out hunting, do you see it?
See many people that are breaking the rules?

Speaker 17 (57:09):
You do and you always get it in society. Whether
I don't know how you'd fix that really, yeah, whether
the law needs to get a harsh show and people
do break the rules and things to make people really
think of what I could do, could really get into
a lot of troubletop thing, you know. I don't know
what the answer would be there.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
What's the deal with spotlighting at the moment? Was that
was that banned?

Speaker 17 (57:33):
I think it's on all public land, So spotlighting and
night vision and all those things. You I don't think it.
I mean you've got a special perman I think it is.
I'm not too sure, correct me if I'm wrong, But
I know a public lands you're not. You're not supposed
to spotlight and yeah, night vision and things like get
but on private band against all do that?

Speaker 21 (57:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
What do you hunt?

Speaker 5 (57:52):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
What do you? What are you wearing when you're hunting? Jason?
Are you wearing you know, safety orange.

Speaker 17 (57:59):
A safety cap or iver's vest. So you are and
if everybody does take that that extra minutes or you
to identify their target, which is in one of the
seven rules, identify your target beyond any reasonable doubt. Not
much can go wrong? Really?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
And and does that alert you to the deer wearing
that that that safety?

Speaker 17 (58:23):
Because I think they said don't see colors, right, so
I mean yeah, I think well before they really see you?

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah right, yeah, interesting. You're a fascinating chair. Thank you
very much, Jason. I wait, one hundred and eighty t
and eighty. If you're a hunter, how is it out?

Speaker 7 (58:40):
Then?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
How do you keep yourself safe? Love to hear from you?
Nine to nine two? Is that TIX number as well?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
The sext that says no rules. We don't need no
stinking rules. It's every man for themselves out there, cheaper.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
It's good luck with that. Okay, let's just let's just
find out that person is.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Put a GPS tracker on that guy. And I hope
they're talking out their butt.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Thank you very much, ray Leane. So we're talking about
staying safe. If you're a hunter out there, I love
to hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
It's been a lot of talk about the seven rules,
but can you hear your experiences?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I m ast all share the seven rules again them.
These the seven rules of fire arms safety, and I've
got these from the NZDA, the New Zealand Deer Stalkers Association.
Rule one, treat every firearm as loaded. Rule two. Always
point firearms in a safe direction. Rule three. Chamber a

(01:00:58):
cartridge only when ready to fire. Rule four. Identify your
target beyond all doubt. So the back of a ball
man's head is not the back of a deer. I mean,
if you're going to be shooting them up the backside anyway,
I'm not sure whether that's a great idea or a
very nice thing to do exactly. Rule five. Check your
firing zone. Rule six Store and transport firearms and ammunition safely.

(01:01:22):
R All seven avoid alcohol drugs when handling fire arms.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Chere on, you're a farmer,
how are you?

Speaker 22 (01:01:31):
Yeah? You know, mate, We've got a local pub that
runs a yearly sort of sort of take hunt hunt
kind of things. And every weekend, well that week in particular,
we get the wink In warriors coming up communicated the
farmers hunter as they know they've got to go way
up in the hills and all that getting indecent for

(01:01:52):
the weekend warriors have come out once in a blue moon.
They think they can drive up the main road, jump out,
walk one hundred meters and shoot something. And when they
when they're empty handed after a couple of days, they
get a little bit proger happy. When we first meet here,
we just have one sheet of shot just so happened
to be on that weekend. Now I move all the
animals a wait from the front line. Well, what's not

(01:02:14):
some pet goats and one of them's got a nice
to get a horns on them. We've put floral collows
on them, and they get the roop down to the
bottom paddocks and I'm make sure I'm up the front.
Were doing and something like that. But for a few times,
and that guys slow right down when they haven't seen me,
start to stoke the land, and I had to tell

(01:02:35):
them to bug off.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I mean that's quite terrifying. So you reckon, that's
just guys that have recently got into the sport and
as you call them weak in warriors, the experienced guys
would know better.

Speaker 22 (01:02:47):
Yeah, well, they're sort of guys that are in a
hundred for a while. But they go out once and
right in the blue moon and they you know, they
go with their mate and many of plenty of bravado.
They haven't shot anything into the whole day. They come back,
they're a little bit, a little bit tony, and yeah,
I do believe that that's exactly whatever. They get a
trigger happy and they wanted to shooting into boots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So do you think so with with you know, buck fever,
when you start seeing things that aren't there? So do
you think that that comes with frustration? Probably also a
bit of tiredness. If you've been out there for a
few days you haven't shot anything, then.

Speaker 22 (01:03:24):
I think I think nine frustration And yeah, they just
they just see what they want to see what was
actually there. I mean, there was a woman and shot someone.
Bring us the law went all hayword here because they
they weren't supposed to be shooting from a car and
the things and they saw the good light when those

(01:03:48):
things on, and they thought it was eyes shine and
they shove killed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's right.

Speaker 22 (01:03:53):
That wasn't that long ago. They should have been really
for that.

Speaker 18 (01:03:58):
And they got away.

Speaker 22 (01:03:59):
Really like I don't I don't know who they knew
in the system, but they've got away real mut What.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
What does true identification? You know, if you can get
buck fever and you can have these hallucinations, John, what
is a full identification of your target? What does that entail?

Speaker 22 (01:04:17):
Well, you see the you see enough of the animal,
you know exactly what it is. But something moving behind
the bushes isn't exactly your animal, and you want to
actually shoot what is sticking out of the boss. You
don't just sort of sort of see, you know, see
a sort of lead sticking out and go oh yeah,
I'll give whatever's moving behind their shot. So you knowation,

(01:04:39):
you know, you know exactly what of what ties of it.
You know, you're actually saying, yes, I know that's a
gear and not just a joke or something like that,
exactly what it is. You know, shooting that anything that
moves is not right. And you also that the target
speak is as well. Now these guys are coming away

(01:05:01):
wanting to shoot anything that's that that's sort of my
opinion of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
M H. So when you say sometimes they take out
farm animals, you're talking about deer on farm rather than
cattle or sheep.

Speaker 22 (01:05:14):
Oh, we've had, we've had, We've had down the valley here.
We've had one of the local farmers here year, walking
across the land quite often we get to the river,
someone shot one of them, basic chopped and tear the
head off the trophy and left the rest of the
sitting on the side of the road. Now it obviously
shot across the farmer's land, and get it. And this

(01:05:37):
is the kind of thing we're putting up with, shooting
across someone's land or being assets and someone's land dress
parts and should be one of those horse.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Has that kind of looked down upon the just trophy
instead of taking the whole animal out, if you just
tack the head off because you want to you know,
you want to won the trophy as opposed to taking
the whole beast out and you know, processing it to eat.

Speaker 22 (01:06:00):
Yeah, we get it. We get it all the time.
I know some of the you know, some of the
animals to pierce a real peace around here. But disupposing
the animal properly. Like quite often they'll chop the bottom
jaw off to get the pass of a of a
decent side too, and then and then they'll just jump
the rest in a long roads and you smell when

(01:06:22):
you're driving, you cut and dumping them and somewhere up
the belly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, there's a text that's just come through, John, whether
there's any truth of this. It says thermal imaging scopes
are prolific and causing hunters to shoot at heat images
alone when not identifying target through optical scope. Do you
think there's a lot of truth in that.

Speaker 22 (01:06:41):
Yeah, they're a you know there, they are a tall
just like in the other toll. But they've got I've
never actually used one, but a couple of our mates
have got them. They really create. But just like anything else,
you can't rely on it. You've got to you've got
to have that have that second sight I think, to
pack up on it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Yeah, interesting, John, thanks very much for giving us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Chris says there should be an extra rule keep your
finger outside the trigger guard until you're ready to fire.
We have that rule in the police.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Makes sense. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
that number to call if you're a hunter? How are
things out there at the moment? And how do you
keep yourself safe? And are there, as John said, the
weekend warriors who are pushing things a little bit too far?
Nine two niney two is the text. It is eighteen
to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Mart Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Said, be it is sixteen to three and we're talking
about hunting. If you're out there hunting on a regular basis,
how do you keep yourself safe?

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
We one hundred eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Hi, guys, it's called mindset. It's the same in aviation.
There's a paper you have to sit called human factors.
It was one of the factors contributed to the Mount
Erebus disaster. That's from mar Interesting Craig. You don't think
that you can rely on tech.

Speaker 13 (01:07:55):
Okay, well far as close as yesterday without hunting and
a area work one of the legends and something a
man who was part of the thing up and tidying
up if you like. The shooting respir twenty twelve because

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father Sharrazanne's done. So, yeah, they had all the check
in the world. They had the equipment to identify not
just through their popular if you like, but also through
tech that identifies heat segmentures.

Speaker 17 (01:08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Right, So you think too many hunters out there are
relying on tech that can obviously go sideways, that it's
best to get your skill level up so you don't
need to rely on that, which will arguably keep you safer.

Speaker 13 (01:09:04):
I think it's how important is it to you to
take that shot. It's not You're not going to die
if you don't take that shot. You know, so you're
you're believing what you see in your optics, you're believing
what you see with your tech and everything else. But

(01:09:27):
we are still fired upon people that have a headlamp
on mm hmm, people in campgrounds with a headlamp that's
supplying a heat signature and a light signature that that
basically tells us, yes, there's something that we can shoot at.

(01:09:48):
That's been proven so far four times in New Zealand
to be it's only four times. We can say it's
only four times, but that's pretty cuge. But four times
in New Zealand that's been enough for someone to take
the shot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
So yeah, there's a six year craig that's saying, always
ask before you shoot? Is this a human?

Speaker 9 (01:10:15):
Is that?

Speaker 14 (01:10:15):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Is that enough of a test?

Speaker 17 (01:10:19):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:10:20):
Not for me.

Speaker 13 (01:10:22):
So okay, so I've been I've been shooting a long time.
And the gentleman that I was having a discussion with
on the weekend was actually there at the campground where
that that woman was shot, and it was actually about
what you what the shooter saw, and he was very
adamant and he was buried and is right in his

(01:10:45):
eyes take the shot. Was something looking back at him
that had the shape of a deer. So he took
the shot, and okay, that that's horrible. We know the
consequences from that. I would question to myself, I will

(01:11:07):
never ever take a shot unless I can see a head,
a shoulder, outline behind and then then yeah, then I'm
prepared to take the shot. It's like, okay, I guess
I can see that, absolutely, ada, I'll take the shot.
If you don't do that, you have not done target

(01:11:28):
on enterprecation. And it's really I think that it's one
of the things missing hugely worth a lot of a
young hunters. And sorry, not a young hunters. I think
our young hunters have learned already, but our older hunters
probably need to get the hit around it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Yeah, Craig, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.
Very interesting. Jason, you've done a lot of hunting yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
Oh yeah, how are you? Oh yeah yeah, but talk
about as better than the handing that I've done. It's
not huge, but we'll have brought up hunting and the
old man is dull into us, like, you don't have
accedence with guns. He's like, if you're going to get
out a fence, you slide the gun through and you
go down one post and you hop over. If you're

(01:12:13):
walking and it looks a bit slippery, you don't walk. Said,
you have accidents with plates, and you you have accidents
with other things, but you don't have accidents with guns.
So we were never allowed to have an accident with
a gun. We were never allowed to slip over or
fall over. If we fell over with a gun, we're
going to knack around the ears. You'd say, what the
hell do you think you do it?

Speaker 23 (01:12:34):
So?

Speaker 21 (01:12:34):
Who was them?

Speaker 16 (01:12:34):
My fold?

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
I fell over?

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
He's like, no, you don't have accidents with guns. If
you're going to fall over somewhere, you don't go there.
You don't have accidents with guns ever, period, We weren't
allowed to, and so we never ever did. And so
you know, I haven't hunted with my brother for probably
fifteen years, but we could both walk into a piece
of bush tomorrow and we would never ever not know

(01:12:56):
exactly where the other guy was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Interesting, So, I mean, for a lot of that, just.

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
Like when yeah, when you're dealing with firearms, it has
to be drawn into you. You can't just go out
and learn. It's impossible. No one can do it. Not
no one on the planet can do it. And here
you are. You have to have an older, more experienced
guide drill it into you, and drill it into you,
and drill it into you. And that's how they do
it in the army, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, So as as rule three in the rule, then
there's seven rules of firearms safety. Chamber of cartridge only
when ready to fire. Is that something that's been drilled
into you as well? And in terms of walking around
on dat.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Yeah, I mean all that, that's all just half of
the course. You weren't allowed to handle it around until
you could see the animal or if you knew there
was one right there, you can put the magazine in
and then but you basically weren't allowed to shut the
bolt until you were lined up on the animal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
You know, even for a reposition Jason, if you just
really knew.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
You were going to fire a shot, you knew you're
going to fire a shot, you're allowed to put one
on the mat and the and the spout. The vault
wouldn't be shut right right, So you weren't allowed to
shut the bolt until you're lined up on it. That
you know, it depends what you're doing. If you're shooting
goats and you're shooting a lot of mo well that's
a little bit different because but you're still the guiding
line was you're never allowed to have an accident, so

(01:14:15):
you know, you you're always related on back to that
when you close the bolt or when you put one
on the spout. You know, like you wouldn't be walking
around if there was stick some things on the ground
with one on the spout. But you might sneak over
the brow of a hill if you knew there were
some animals on the other side, you might have one
chamber with the vault knock shut. It would just depend

(01:14:36):
on the situation. It's all different. There is no one rule.
The rule is you don't have an accident with guns. Yeah,
everything relates back to that. And like, honestly, if we
had an accident, he would smack us around that, right
around the side of it. It's gone and look at
us and go, what the hell? You don't have accidents
with gun?

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
You know?

Speaker 16 (01:14:54):
Okay, we never ever did.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Jason. It sounds like you were taught by the best
and it makes a lot of sense. Thank you very
much for giving us a bush. One hundred and eighty
ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It is eight to three, the issues that affect you,
and a bit of along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News Talks, hebby.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
News Talks there b it is five two three. So Dean,
we've got about sixty seconds. But you agree zero accidents
when you've got a rifle.

Speaker 13 (01:15:23):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 21 (01:15:24):
And it came to my grandfather, from my father right
through and I mean zero, Like, don't even get point
of the thing at someone and you're cleaning it and
that's not the taught And that's the I've done hunting
for everything in this country and the thermal imaging. I've
done plenty of it. They shouldn't be shooting at like
if you can't identify at one hundred percent and see
the entire animal. It's just very simple and see a

(01:15:46):
little spot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Oh, I think we've lost your dean unfortunately, But shall
I just finish up by sharing those seven rules again
plase firearm safety Rule one, treat every firearm as loaded.
Rule two to always point firearms in a safe direction.
Rule three. Chamber a cartridge only when ready to fire.
Rule four. Identify your target beyond all doubt. Rule five.
Check your firings. Rule six. Store and transport firearms and

(01:16:11):
animission ammunition safely. Rule seven avoid alcohola drugs when handling firearms.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Makes a lot of sense. Good rules and good discussion.
Thank you very much to everyone who called and text.
If you're hunting out there, stay safe. But coming up
after three o'clock, we want to talk about Christmas trees.
Seeing signs all over the shop for real Christmas trees
for sale at the moment, and traditionally it is the
first of December, so a lot of people put them
up right now. It is twenty four days before the

(01:16:38):
big event, so if you've wat your real Christmas tree
up now, how the hell do you keep it going
for another twenty four days? Love to hear from you
on O eight under at eighty ten eighty. You can
teach through nine two nine two. New Sport and Weather
is fast approaching great debut company. As always, we'll be
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Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sevy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Very good afternoon to you. It is sir past three
on Monday, the first of December.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
And this Texas says you can guarantee media will start
Christmas talk too early and just keep escalating it. They
do it as if there is no other news globally,
despite incredible news daily from all around the world. Absolutely
correct there, Rob, Yep, we are going to talk about Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
We're the first cab off the ram. We're going to
get into an escalate Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
It is December one, Robe in the spirits. We are
the media and we're going to talk Christmas because December one,
on the weekend, I saw a bunch of people buying
Christmas trees. You come in too work this morning and
everyone's telling me December one is the day you get
a Christmas tree, And I'm thinking to myself, how can

(01:17:52):
you keep a real Christmas tree going all the way
to Christmas from December one? It's a good question twenty
five days, twenty six because you need it going in
Boxing day twenty seven, probably because you get rid of
your Christmas tree around the twenty seventh, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I mean you've got to get rid of a before
we go on holiday, otherwise you come back to a
brown horror show that's bending over in a terrible state
in the lounge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
It's a fire risk at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
It's actually really depressing when you come back from holiday
and the Christmas trees up. So I think before you
leave on your summer holiday, if you're staying over Christmas,
you've got to get rid of the tree.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Yeah, And I don't think the tips open on Boxing Day,
so that leaves you the twenty seventh, So that's a
messive hark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
So the point is people that are getting a real
Christmas tree on December one and looking at a four
week life span or zombie span for the Christmas tree.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
And I don't think it can be done genuinely. I
just don't think you can make a tree last for
twenty six days. I think there's definitely going to be
some browning going on. There's going to be bits falling off.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
The six says artificial. Artificial need I say more go artificial.
Taylor says, No, I don't think it's Christmas if there's
an artificial tree. And I know this is a chat
that's been going on for a very very long time,
but aness, it is a chopped up pine tree, stinking
out house and dropping needles everywhere. I don't think it's Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yeah, oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If
you've set your Christmas tree up, you've gone reel the
real deal. What are you doing to make sure it
lasts until at least the big day, if not a
little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Hey, I see you're talking about Christmas trees. We are
a new North Canterbury family bus renting live Christmas trees
this year. Something a bit different merrytrees dot co dot
in Z. So that's a live Christmas tree. So do
you come around and you drop it off in a pot?
Because I was wondering if you can do this? It
just struck me the other day. It seems so obvious,

(01:19:43):
But you could have a Christmas tree like a pine tree.
How long can they live in pots for? Because could
you just have it sitting in a pot in your
backyard and every year you carry it in and decorate
it and then carry it back out again.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
You must be able to because I've just had a
look at these guys merrytrees dot co, dot z. So
how it works. Sign up, choose a tree and let
Mary Trees take care of the rest.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Then from the first of December, the trees delivered to
your door, ready to decorate in an joy. And then
on the thirtieth they pick it back up again. I
assume plant it and then you can rent out that
same tree again next year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Right, So hang in a minute, how do.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
You know it's the same tree? They could say it's
the same tree, but they replant it. And it taught
me through this this work time. So sign up and
then choose a tree. So they must have pictures of trees,
I imagine, and you say I want that one. Then
from the first to December, the tree will be delivered
to your door. Yes, ready to decorate and enjoy. They
say then we'll pick up your tree after Christmas and

(01:20:41):
you can rent that same tree again next year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
But won't that same tree be significantly bigger next year?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Well, they say, yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
So eventually, if you keep renting it for five years,
you're going to have to smash a hole in your roof.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Dear text, we want to chat. We've got more questions
about the system you got going on here. It is
home style, Yeah, I wait under it eight ten eighty.
So if you've gone real tree and you've set it
up ready to go on the first of December, I
love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Josh says. If you don't have a brown curled over
Christmas tree on Christmas Day, you're not a Kiwi. I
mean that's a good point. I mean does the Christmas
tree have to remain in good shape?

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Or is it kind of on its way out by
the time the big day comes around?

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Come on through. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is
that number to call? It's eleven bus three is talk said?
Thirteen past three? The first of December, the day that
many Kiwis get their Christmas tree, real Christmas tree up
and going. The question puts you is how do you
keep it going for another at least twenty four days?
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? To call?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Lez Welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (01:21:43):
Yeah, hi guys, how are you doing very well? Good listen?
I have your solution to your Christmas tree problem there
from Levin And we have a place here called Potard.
It's pott d where you buy a live Christmas tree
and a pot and you have it in your loans

(01:22:05):
for Christmas, pick it out on the garden somewhere or
in the lawn and bring it in for the next
ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
So how does that?

Speaker 9 (01:22:13):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Say that again? So you buy it potted, then you
put it out in the garden and you just what
you bring it in each Christmas time and then back
out into the garden.

Speaker 23 (01:22:21):
That's correct there?

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
And does it get Is it getting bigger every year?

Speaker 23 (01:22:26):
Liz, I'll be gibing it slightly bigger. But they don't
grow that quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
So does it survive in the pot? Do you not
need to dig it into the ground.

Speaker 16 (01:22:36):
No, it's just in the pot.

Speaker 23 (01:22:38):
And to go online that to go on line to
Pottard p O T T D and you'll find out
all the things they've got there. It's a really good system.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
So a pine tree can exist in a pot forever.

Speaker 23 (01:22:54):
Well I don't know about forever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Well well, well not forever, I mean not for not
for a billion years, but for it'll quite happily live
in a pot. I didn't know that. See, this seems
like the ultimate.

Speaker 23 (01:23:06):
Solution, absolutely the ultimate solution, because.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Because then you don't even have to worry about balancing
it with that punishing new thing you've got. With this,
you know, when you're screwing the bolts in and trying
to balance your tree and putting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Water in there, a bit of sugar, you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Just you just put it somewhere in your yard and
you bring it in once a year. This is blood.

Speaker 23 (01:23:25):
This is great, and it'll have the those care directions
I presume when you get it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
I've just had a look at the the Potted website.
They've got some good looking trees. The Fergus is sold out,
that's lovely. The Norman. The Norman is like some sort
of mutant Christmas tree. But I could see some people
liking that. The Turk looks almost dead already. You pay
decent price for it, though.

Speaker 23 (01:23:49):
Liz, well, how long do you want it for? You
pay every year otherwise?

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
And the other thing is, Liz, So I was moving
out of a house recently and I found five Christmas
trees that I'd thrown down beside a fence around behind
a shed every year. I threw one on top of
the other one, and the bottom one is still holding
its full shape. It's very brown, but they're hard to
they don't decompose fully. That takes a very very long time.

(01:24:16):
So you know, you're buying a new tree every year
and hiding it somewhere in new yard anyway, so you
might as well get a potted one and take that
space up and you know, win win win.

Speaker 23 (01:24:26):
Absolutely, keep it out of the landfill.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Yeah, all right, thank you so much, Liz. Keep it
out of the recycling.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
But potted'st yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty t and eighty.
Because that is a fair question is for those that
don't do the potted experience, how do you get ready
of a Christmas tree? You can't use them as firewood, though,
can you? If you let them just dry out for
a couple of years, can you chop them up for forwood?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I don't see why not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
I suppose you could? Well you bonfire in the backyard texts.
The text number is nine two nine too. If you
want to see the text.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Can't you just go down? So surely you can just
go down to a garden center then and buy a
pine tree and a pot. Yeah, you do it once,
and if it stays in the pot, it's not going
to grow that much because it's restricted by how biggest
roots can go. Well, why am I only just hearing
about this ultimate solution to the Christmas tree dilemma?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Yeah? Oh, eight hundred eighty and eighty if you do
the old potted Christmas tree. Love to hear from you.
It is seventeen past three. Back very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
John says, seriously, guys, I've been giving my tree for
the past few years with great results. This is my recipe.
I crush up a couple of viagaras with some liquid
seaweed and put it in the in the in the
po pot with the tree.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Interesting, what do you say to the doctor when you
need a wee prescription? It's for my Christmas tree, you're likely, story, Joel.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah, well, what is your Christmas tree?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB twenty past three.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
There has to be a catch for this, this solution
of the potted pine tree that you used to take
in and out, leave it outside for eleven months a year,
and then you bring it in. You leave it in
a corner of a garden, and then you bring it
in and then you get the pine tree and the
pine smell and the real Christmas tree.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
There's got to be a catch.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Yeah, because the Bilsa's being in a pot slows its
growth because the roots can't spread. Therefore the tree always
stays about the same size. But it's going to be
a lot. Well, the stick's a kerry. She seys. Pine
trees will survive anywhere if they have roots. They're weeds.
And someone else says that there's bon si pine trees
that have been in pots for hundreds of years.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I love a good Bonzeye.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
It's a bit Christmas tree that just wants to sell
you a new tree every year. Been trying to shut
this down.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
I think we've opened up a conspiracy here. Oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to call
get a Jennifer, Hey, Jennifer, Jennifer, Oh, she just dropped off.
Let's try July, Julie, Oh goodness.

Speaker 24 (01:26:54):
And the gentlemen. Now you're actually leading people up the
garden pass a little bit. Pardon the pun, but if
you've got a tree and a pot, you do have
to water it, you do have to look after it.
I've got a tree, it's a spruce, and it's over
forty years old, and it's in nothing more than a
plastic garbage tint drum. You're a plastic one. And I

(01:27:18):
take it out every now and then and root, prune
it and it keep a little bit clipped, and give
it a bit of lovely stuff that it likes to eat,
like blood and bone and stuff. But you do you
can't just grab a pine tree. Pine tree is you're
actually saying pine tree. It's a variety of trees that

(01:27:41):
you can use. As I said, mine's a spruce, but
pine tree they do need to be watered and looked after,
otherwise they will pop their cloths.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
How often you how much work you're putting in in
the year, in the non Christmas time, Julie.

Speaker 24 (01:27:56):
Well, you can't say how much work are you're putting in,
you're not putting it. If it's winter time and it's raining,
you pretty well rite. But in the summer time you
do have to water them regularly otherwise they will die.
And it's like anything, they need a bit of water,
So yeah, it does.

Speaker 18 (01:28:18):
It is a bit like that.

Speaker 24 (01:28:20):
It's like if you've got pop plants or anything, you
do have to water them.

Speaker 21 (01:28:25):
So if it's a.

Speaker 24 (01:28:25):
Potted tree, you do have to water it. So yeah,
I can't. You can't give how much time you spend.
How much do you value your tree? Do you want
to keep it or do you not? You don't want
to keep it, don't water it? It will die. But yeah,

(01:28:46):
if you turring them and look at them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
So mine is a given year. Is that as much
work as once a year going down to a Christmas
tree shop, grabbing the Christmas tree, bring it home, putting
it up, and then disposing of it afterwards and cleaning
up the needles. Is it more or less work than that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
You've got to look after it.

Speaker 21 (01:29:06):
You've got to.

Speaker 24 (01:29:07):
It's like having a dog and not given him anything.
Do your drink? What's going to do? It's going to die? Right,
So if you want if you if you paid a
lot for the tree to start with, you need to
look after it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
What what about a Christmas dog that you bring in a
dead Christmas dog? And you I mean, I don't quite
get the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Dog thing, but you're right, there's a lot of man hours.
So if you try and break it down.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
If you get a dog, just get a new ded
dog once a year and put it up in your house.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Put them in a pot, water the once a day.
But you're right, the man hours, so if you try
and calculate how many man hours it would take to
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Wanted an answer from Julie whether it was going to
be you know, once a week, once a month, you
have to go out of water at a what yep,
Peter your thoughts on this.

Speaker 20 (01:29:53):
I'm assuming that this is a little sapling that goes
into a box. Who the hell do you put the faery,
the angel, the lights, the bull bulls want to crack
Christmas until next year? A little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Yeah, that's a good point. So you have ten years
of crap presences till it gets up to that, to
a reasonable height.

Speaker 20 (01:30:16):
These people feed at sugar, honey, do this? What waste
bloody time?

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
What about this? What about speaking of getting it to
the correct height quick enough. What do you think about
this guy that's texted and saying that he crushes up
a viagara and with the Christmas tree? Do you think
that would help.

Speaker 20 (01:30:35):
Last all year?

Speaker 24 (01:30:37):
Right?

Speaker 20 (01:30:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Yeah, before one time and then it's it's good to go.
So maybe there's something in there.

Speaker 20 (01:30:46):
I just this is funny. That's funny, funny, funny, but yeah,
you just forget it. Just a fake tree or a
shitty old tree that's gonna die.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
But hanging a minute, what are you doing with your
trees afterwards? That's that's that's the problem. You get, You
get your fake tree and then next you know, and look,
there's these people that say that they'll pick them up,
but they do they pick them up. They say they're
going to pick up but the only time they can
pick them up is exactly when you're on holiday and
out of town, and then they can't get it. Yeah, yeah,
all right, thank you, Peter.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Yeah, good call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Love to hear from you. If
you go real tree, how do you keep it alive?
Or you into this potted tree business? And is there
a catch there must be a catch. Nine two ninety
two is the text number as well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Vinnie says, Hi, boys, I cut one out of the
town bout reserve every year. Wilding pines are a pest anyway,
So I find a good one and from it throughout
the year. So it's the perfect shape. This year's one
is a beauty.

Speaker 16 (01:31:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
If you like Vinnie, love to hear from you. Oh
one hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
So he's stealing for the Christmas season.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Good on, Yeah, it is twenty seven past three.

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Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Thank you very much, Raylean. So we are talking about
Christmas trees. If you're going real and you've set it up,
it's the first of December, how do you keep it going?
And saw the twenty fifth?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah, and the ultimate Christmas tree hack seems to have
come through. You keep one in a pot in the
yard and bring it in for a month every year
and then put it back out there. But Julie says
you've got to put some work into it. She won't
say how much. She will not engage me. She would
not engage me in the amount of man hours that
needs to go into it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
She wouldn't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
But here's a unique solution. Cut a hole in your
lounge floor and plant it when it reaches the ceilings
cell the house. See that's the kind of number eight fencing.
Why key, we can do attitude. Yeah, that solves problems.
That is some thinking. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Now on the line right now is a man who
knows a lot about Christmas trees and plants. Full stop.
It's rude climb pass who's given us a buzz roads
What a great man, mate?

Speaker 9 (01:34:03):
How are you? How are you go doing that? I
mean honestly listening to this rubbish and it's just you
got to know what to do a So.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Does you say? What about this talk that a viagara
and the pot will help the Christmas tree?

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Is there is any science? Effeck that up route.

Speaker 9 (01:34:20):
Yes there is, but I wouldn't use that because it's
probably full of catmium and other things that you scrape
off the road. It's a long story I can I
can give you. I can give you the viagar story
takes me true. That's actually true about Likens talking about
gardening lichens on tree trunks. There are certain lichens that
are called sexy pavement lichen, and the Chinese have worked

(01:34:44):
out that it's got the same active ingredients as viagra.
The only problem is they scrape it off the ground
and they're basically what you then take is material like
like all these catmiums and all these other things that
you find on the road. But that's not what I was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Going as a standard viagra. That's that's prescribed by a doctor.
Is that scraped off the road or just the stuff
they're giving the trees.

Speaker 9 (01:35:06):
No, it's the stuff from the likens that find on
the tree trunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, Yo,
you got it anyway. But I wasn't going to talk
about it. I mean, it's boring what you're doing there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Hey, let's I'm excited.

Speaker 22 (01:35:20):
Bonzi.

Speaker 9 (01:35:20):
Have you never heard of bonze eye? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
For the bonzi little tree?

Speaker 9 (01:35:26):
Yeah, little trees. How old are they in Japan and China?

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Well, there's hundreds of you you can get about to
hundreds of years old.

Speaker 9 (01:35:32):
Yeah, that's right, it's four or five hundred years. I mean, honestly,
the easiest way to go go to a course, do
some bonzai, like my twelve year old grandson and and
he made himself.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
But can you make it? Can you make a bonzei
Christmas tree that's big enough to bother with and hang
stuff off?

Speaker 9 (01:35:50):
No, you don't want it, You don't you don't want it.
You don't want to lose your lunge space, do you?

Speaker 21 (01:35:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Well, you know you only bring it in once a year,
the Christmas tree, right, No, you.

Speaker 9 (01:35:59):
Know you look after it every day of the year
and then in Christmas you hang you know, maybe one
little ball belong it. And that's rude.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
You're saying that that there that our chats boring about
viagar and Christmas trees and you're coming in and saying
that you want one bable on your bonds, like Christmas
tree that's that's not a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Christmas who sells an angel? That's more what what bable.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Are you putting on their route? Like if there's only one.

Speaker 9 (01:36:28):
You can go red or white or green or blue
and orange?

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Can Can you make a bonzeye tree that that's let's
say five five five?

Speaker 9 (01:36:40):
Yes, you can?

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
I can. Okay, now we're talking and say how much
work would it be on a day to day basis
route for for me to keep one going in the
backyard and a pot with a pine tree.

Speaker 9 (01:36:52):
No, not to be quits. It's not that difficult, to
be quite honest. You might do something every two or
three weeks that you give it a bit of this,
bit of that, a little bit of liquid fertilizers and
all that sort of stuff, and you'll find it actually,
and you can prune it with a pair of sict ears.
You can prin it exactly where you want it to be.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
So you can have perfect shaped Christmas like you could
have a perfect cone shaped Christmas tree.

Speaker 9 (01:37:14):
Route exactly mate.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
That's lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
And then and then then it makes Christmas all more
special because that's you've been working on our all year
and you finally bring it in for the big day.

Speaker 9 (01:37:24):
And nobody and nobody has one like you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Yeah, yeah, I like it. But it's it's a bit
late to start one now, so this is kind of
a next year project. So I might just have up
one I buy from King's Plant Barn or something.

Speaker 9 (01:37:37):
Yeah, you should have started started hundred hundred years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Yeah, this is a theoretical question here, but if I
if someone was to go to Bottlelake Forest and cut
down one of the wolding pines out there, what would
be the best way to do that?

Speaker 25 (01:37:54):
So it's going to survive, get a chainsaw, and then
after this done, you burn them. And that is the
really good way to go with the roten stuff that
stays and grows everywhere. That's quite a pain in the bottom.

Speaker 9 (01:38:10):
Those pine trees as well, wilding plants by the way,
just saying yeah, there's another one. Actually I never thought
of that. That's a good idea for Christmas. Get as
many of these trees and cut them down for free.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
Boom.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Yeah, I mean that's my thinking as well. We had
a couple of teachers say that they just go bush
and find a wolding pine and cut it down. But well,
the best Christmas tree, real Christmas tree, and your eyes
rude because we had someone say spruce was the way
to go. What was the best type?

Speaker 9 (01:38:36):
Yeah, oh that's nice, And there's a lot of creatures
like that that look really lovely. You take what it
looks what it looks best for you, literally, but that's
through the pine trees or pine light trees that have
got incredibly gorgeous if you're like way of presenting themselves.

(01:38:56):
It's absolutely beautiful and they are cutable. You can prune them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Yeah, now, rude, you're a famous lover of bugs, So
would you ever consider just planting bugs on your Christmas
tree and then being your Christmas decorations.

Speaker 9 (01:39:10):
It's the only way to get Christmas trees is by
getting the bugs in and say, hey, here's your food coming.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
So what live bugs make the best Christmas tree decorations?

Speaker 9 (01:39:23):
Oh? Maybe a poor really bug.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Oh it sounds nice. It's beautiful.

Speaker 9 (01:39:28):
There's poor really moths you see there about what three
four inches in diameter? Absolutely gorgeous if they stay there.
The only problem with those is they don't last longer
than maybe a day and a half. Well that's after
seven years, that's right, that's after seven years of living
in the trees and all that sort of stuff, and
then finally coming out and you've got only twenty four

(01:39:49):
hours to do all your loving living and shopping. That's
not fair either, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Well, life's not fair, route, But hey, thank you, thank
you so much for your call, and appreciate your expertise.

Speaker 9 (01:39:59):
As always, I loved I loved going in there and
stopping my car of course on the side of the
road and bringing up oh, eight hundred eighty ten eight.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
That's what we're here for any time in any time. Rude, yep, anytime.
So bonzi with your one bare bull. That's the advice
from root clumbbust.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
But the bombshell news is that the viagra works.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Yeah. I was reading up about the sexy pavement light chin.
You shouldn't lick it, but it does have similar stuff
than viagra. So there you go. Now now, Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Have
you got your tree up already? And how are you
going to keep it going until Christmas Day? Or have
you just gone artificial and said bugger the real tree
love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is that number to call? Twenty two to four.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
I know he's been here since the seventies, but I
should have asked Rude about Max forstepping. How excited it
is about Abu Dhabi.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Yeah, that would have been a good question. Twenty two
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.
Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty US
talk sa'd b.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
It is nineteen to four, so we're talking about Christmas trees.
Because it is the first of December and a lot
of keywhees have whacked up the Christmas tree already. Love
to hear from you if that is you, and if
it's real, are you going to keep it going till
the twenty fifth?

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Hi, I've had a Norfolk pine in a pot for
eight to ten years. I've kept it at boob height,
so it's a boom site itself. It's fine in the
house for a few weeks over Christmas, and I have
more than one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Bullble nice, fine, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
So that's a bond SI. That's boob height.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Yeah, ideal, Marty. How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
Not Marcus this afternoon, isn't it? I'm ahead of myself.
How's it going, Matten Color.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
It's got a bit of a Marcus vibe, which is
quite enjoying at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Yeah, we're into it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
That's a compliment. Christmas tree. It's a fake one, and
we inherited it with the mother in law's house intritively,
so we've got the old handy down fake Christmas tree
and it stays stays green for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Yeah, it stays green forever. I imagine if it's a
fake Christmas tree and well, it's not one of those
annoying ones that you have to put together and you
have to reinvent the every well every year, plugging in
all the all the branches.

Speaker 20 (01:42:11):
It's the typical pyramid.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
Scheme Christmas tree so has like five pieces from the
largest to the smallest.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Yeah yeah, that's bull Bruce, Yeah yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
So it's not a massive headachet to put it together
every year.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
Boys gets up to it now after the like under
fifteen T twenty finals between Cambridge and Matemana College.

Speaker 16 (01:42:34):
How good at Cambridge High School?

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
So have you got some have you got some ginger
peers and head along?

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Have you got have you got someone in the game?
A family member in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Yes, it's my first time, it's his first year playing.
It's my first time to go and embarrass them at
the game. Have you got any tips embarrassing whistle? Slid
a whistle?

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
One thing? That one thing is a person that's coached
a bit of junior cricket on the sideline. The most
important thing for parents to do is not give running advice.
Don't don't start yelling there's two there. Don't berate them
when they didn't take a single, because you know, there's
no no one had to be a position to decide
whether there's a run there or not. Then the person
at the crease.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
What about saying smash it like when you say at
rugby smash.

Speaker 16 (01:43:21):
Didn't know that right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Well, just as you know, yeah, what were you want?
You want your your son and the people on his
team to play every ball at its merits. And it's
just hard from the sign line to really you know,
gauge the line and length and whether it's in a
you know, in a good position to play what what shots?
I think it's best just to stand on the sideline
and and offer your offer, your sport, your chairs, your

(01:43:45):
polite collapse for both sides and just be, you know,
just a best of good sportsmanship and bring joy to
the fixture. Marty.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
Okay, and what about bribing the months you know the
Karen Tiger mums that are on the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Scoring Yeah, yes, ye down the tree.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Yeah yeah definitely. You'll be careful with those, Yeah, that
might be a bit far. Might want to heads up
first before you go go straight in with the Having
a bar of Wittikers and going straight in for the
shoulder message could backfire and you could have runs removed
from your son. It's a bold move, but yeah, absolutely
go along with the best bird of the game. But yeah,
definitely try and bribe the scores.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Yeah, smart man. Thank you very much and good luck
to your boy in the under fifteen T twenty competition
on today. One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number
to call, Juliet. Have you got your Christmas tree up?

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
No, I've given it. Some Christmas trees got past that age.
But anyway, two things Christmas tree live, one in a pot.
So I lived in the Netherlands for about three years
before I came out here. I did come to visit
Dutch friends here before I immigrated, and they had this

(01:45:08):
glide tree in a plastic pot, because that's what you
do in an Etherlands. It was this purely little thing.
It went out into the garden, their garden. Five years
later I immigrated and visited them, still in the garden.
No one had looked at it alive. So about two
years later, when I got my own property, I said,
can I have the Christmas tree? Yep, and I put

(01:45:30):
in the back of the garden. And when I left
that property that tree was probably about I don't know,
twenty meters talk so it got a good life. In
the end. I didn't take it inside to decorate it. Matt,
I can't help.

Speaker 8 (01:45:45):
You with that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Hard to get twenty meter tree into the house, isn't.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
It Well it would be, yeah, but I mean the
whole thing about you have to look after it. I
mean they just had not even looked at it, but
put somewhere in the back of the garden. And I
took it away and it thrived. So I don't know,
you probably don't have to do too much to help
it survive. The other other solution I came upon later

(01:46:11):
on was one and a half meter not real tree
decorated and would push it into a carton box at
the end of Christmas, put it in the garage, slide
it out fully decorated for the next Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Oh smart, good to go. Yeah wow, yeah, that is
thinking there. It cuts them out waking with the lights
at all, and you're good to go.

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
In the beginning, it was I used to have to
decorate this tree with particular friends because I was the
creative one and I just got tired. But they just
had this little one, so we've got things got added
every year. I just thought out of this and I
just made it really nice. I said, okay, guys, And
when Christmas was over, I sort of just shut it away,
put it into the box instead of leave you know,

(01:47:02):
arrows this way up, and it got stashed away and
the next year it came out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
It's brilliant. We're getting lots of great advice here. But
what about mixing the two pieces, the two Christmas hacks.
So you get the Christmas tree that's potted that you
just bring in every year, but you also leave it
in the garden with the decorations on it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
If anyone's done that, we are keen to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Maybe you have decorations that are you know, weather proof yep.
So the tree just sits out there, fully decorated. You
want to put it sort of out of you know,
you know, not out of the off the beaten tracks,
so people aren't seeing it every day because it might
be a bit of a Christmas spoiler.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Yeah, just to the bag garden in the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
But the fully robust, decorated Christmas tree in a pot
that never dies. You bring it in for one month
a year and put it back out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Sound smart if you've done that. Love to hear from
you nine two ninety two is the text number. It
is thirty to four.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
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Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Four as text through here texted that's not happy, you guys.
Giggling at the viagrant in the Christmas tree water is immature.
It's a real and sensible thing. We do it every year.
It's not a joke for juveniles. Seriously, text you can't
expect us to not have a little giggle at you
crushing up a little viagara and putting it in your
Christmas tree water.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
I mean rude climbed past the bug man that rang
him before he has said it's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
So I just thought the first person that texted him
was texting as a joke. But whether as a real
thing or not, Yeah, surely we're going to giggle at that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
How do you get you know, what do you say
to your doctor? My tree is looking a little bit
little viagrat?

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
And what is the similarities between the Christmas tree and
the other application of varga of it? So I think
it's incredibly interesting and quite funny.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
It's a magic pill. Surely clary. How are you?

Speaker 16 (01:49:01):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (01:49:01):
Not too bad?

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Now? What have you? What have you got for us?
In terms of Christmas tree?

Speaker 7 (01:49:05):
I for several years he had an irish U tree.
Now don't ask me how to spell irish U. But
it was given to us as a gift. It stood
possibly five foot six foot tall in a pot and
I would wheel it in with a sack bearer every year.
It's a perfect Christmas tree shape. We ended up giving

(01:49:27):
it away to someone because we were shipping towns and
it just, you know, seemed easier, and the children had
grown and we probably thought maybe not a Christmas tree anymore.
But have a look at those. They don't grow that
fast in a pot. So it's not like we're having
to you know, replace it all the time. I'd expect

(01:49:49):
it's still relatively healthy at that size. It has been
probably for at least twelve or thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Are you still getting that? But you know, does it
does it create the Christmas smell? Though? You know, yeah,
it's here.

Speaker 7 (01:50:03):
It's not too bad, Matt, you know it's yeah, it's
a good, bloody good Christmas tree.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Yeah, oh good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
And we're having to do much bonds eyeing on it
during the year. We're having to treat to keep that
perfect shape, or it just it just grew naturally in
a perfect shape.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
Pretty much grew naturally in that state.

Speaker 9 (01:50:20):
You might, you might.

Speaker 7 (01:50:23):
The only thing I did do was rotate it in
the garden, you know, when it was outside. Yeah, just
spin it so that you don't get bending to the
to the sun. But other than that, it was perfect,
so good looking tree.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
It's almost like a cylinder, isn't it Almost like a
bullet shape.

Speaker 7 (01:50:38):
Yeah, almost like a Christmas tree shape.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Yeah, an iris u, how'd you go?

Speaker 8 (01:50:47):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Did you have a truck of viager in there with it?

Speaker 20 (01:50:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
No, I did not do it. I'm still young, very good.
A couple of tigs coming through here, you guys. I
would say you could probably prune leavender into a nice
Christmas tree shape and that would happily live in a pot.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Yeah, but then it would smell like leavender and pine fresh.
Like you need a Christmas tree, guys, have a pop
up Christmas tree. Open the box. She spirals up, Hook
it up. To the top and it takes twenty seconds.
Well it's a pop up Christmas tree. Wow, this six
is my life. My wife is Filipino and it's a
tradition of the Philippines that you see your Christmas tree
up from first to September, which probably seems pretty insane

(01:51:27):
to most. I managed to hold her off to another
month and put it up on first of October instead,
so that from the first of September four months, so
that Christmas tree is up a third of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Geez, that is some longevity.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I mean, there is that song. I wish it was
Christmas every day, but that, you know, third of the year.
I have an amazing tree that I grow every year
and it has amazing buds on it and seeds. I
use it to grow more the following year. Okay, okay, right,
see where young there must the buzz and seeds.

Speaker 9 (01:51:56):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Yeah, I gave that's Merry Christmas to you, my friend.
That's a different type of indoor growing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
That one and this one says might to ten have
potted trees for forty bucks. But my husband just sees
paint the dead tree.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Oh so you so you just.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Wake up the old brown, dead tree and just put
some green paint on. Your husband's a thinker, Yeah, like
his style.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
All right, okay, then all right, okay, then all right,
you're seeing busy. We'll let you go. Thank you so
much for listening. Everyone being a great old show today.
The podcast will be up in about an hour. He
du see Ellen is up next. But Tyler, my good friend,
why am I playing the song?

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Oh, very good cover of the Rolling Stone as this
because finally it's a big day for me. I'll finally
managed to get on the corner, one little corner of
the New Zealand Woman's Weekly. Yeah, nice peck, mate, nice peck.
I had no idea, but well done.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
It's good, chunk because you came in.

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
You go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
I'm on the cover of the Woman's Weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Yeah, the Rolling Stone would be nice one day, but
I'll take the New Zealand Woman's Weekly.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
All right, Thank you so much for listening. Until tomorrow afternoon.
Give them a taste of Kiwi from Tyler and once
I love you Blue right, groupies, we'll do anything we're saving.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
We gotta chine wine.

Speaker 14 (01:53:18):
Into your pool room.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
It's teaching us a better way.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
We got all the.

Speaker 26 (01:53:24):
Fence that money can find so we never have to
be alone, and we keep getting richer, but we can't
get our picture on the cover of the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Rolling Stone, road Stone.

Speaker 26 (01:53:38):
Want to see my pick chu on the cover stone,
want to five five compies found my muther off, want
to see my smile and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
This on the cover of the Rolling Stone, on the
cover of.

Speaker 26 (01:53:51):
The road and want to see my dig chu on
the cover. Gonna color in five calls from my photo
a smile, we will make a phone pole of the
road and shot from man I'm seeing now it won't
be our front smiling Man are beautiful.

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