Entrepreneurs Mastering a Positive Mindset: Daily Habits for Success with Niyc Pidgeon

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The following is a paid podcast.iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an
endorsement of the products offered or theideas expressed. One of the simplest things
is coming back to gratitude. Ifyour business is structure properly, is not
as hard as some people think.I thought I wanted to work for a
product line, and he said,well, why don't you create your own.

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I'm Richard Gearhart and I'm Elizabeth Gearhart. You've just heard some snippets from
our show. It was fantastic.Stay tuned for the rest. Want to
protect your business. The time isnear. You've given it heart, now
get it in gear It's Passage toProfit With Richard and Elizabeth Gearhart. I'm

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Richard Gerhart, founder of Gearhart Law, a full service intellectual property law firm
specializing in patents, trademarks and copyrights. And I'm Elizabeth Gearhart, not an
attorney, but I work at GearhartLaw doing the marketing, and I have
my own startups. Welcome the Passageto Profit everyone, the Road to entrepreneurship
where we talk with startups small businessesand discuss the intellectual property that helps them

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flourish. We have a very specialguest. Her name is Nick Pigeon and
she's a triple certified coach and businessmentor and founder of Unstoppable Success and the
Positive Psychology Coach Academy certification. Andthen we have two awesome presenters. Do
you like skincare? How's your skinlooking these days? Anyway? Well,

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Kimberly Curie you can help you withthat. She'll be talking about skincare.
And then Herman Dulce Junior and DeMarsLong the Power Couple. They are the
Money Crew, so let's talk money. But before we get to our distinguished
guests, it's time for IP inthe News, and I guess we're going
to be talking about one of myfavorite actors, Dwayne the Rock Johnson,

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one of the most famous actors everywhere, and he's got a new gig now
with the TKO Group, which isthe group that owns WWE and the UFC,
so these are both professional wrestling associations, as I'm sure you all know,
and he was able to secure aspart of his deal with them,

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ownership of the word the Rock asa trademark, and that is unusual because
they own the characters and the marketingfor the wrestlers in WWE, and the
wrestlers don't get to own their owntrademarks typically. We had a wrestler on
here a few years ago and heexplained the whole thing to us. So
for a wrestler to be able toown his own trademark name, that's huge.

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But he's on the board now,so that was why they let him
do it, and I think that'sprobably it. In order to own a
piece of intellectual property that's owned bythe WWE, you have to be like
Dwayne the Rock Johnson to get there. You have to be that important.
That's how tightly they control their intellectualproperty. Anyway, now it's time for

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Richard's roundtable and I'm gonna ask Kenya, what do you think about all of
this? Well, I think it'sbecause he's the Rock, right and less
than he's on the board of director. He's very profitable. He's made the
organization a lot of money. He'sa strong brand by hisself, so it's
like that holds a lot of juicewhen you're the Rock. I think it's
a pretty cool thing. Kudos tohim, and I know that part of

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the Rock came from an association thathe had with his father, and so
I think it has a special sentimentalattachment for him. Nick Pigeon, what
do you think. I think it'samazing. I mean being able to own
your own name and being able toprotect a brand, and it's obviously been
a fight for him for a longtime. So bad play to him,
yeah, I mean if they didn'tjust turn it over to him, right,

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I mean he's been a famous moneymakerfor a long time, but I
guess now's the time, right,absolutely, absolutely, So, Kimberly,
what are your thoughts about this?So? I think we need to really
think about the WWE and how there'sjust so much talent in that organization,
and there's been so much talent throughoutthe years, so obviously this has been
something that all of the talent hashad to deal with, but none of

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them are quite as big as DwayneJohnson. We know him by the Rock
and Dwayn Johnson, right, Soat this point, him getting the trademark
after all these years probably is areally big victory for him. But imagine
what that would have done for himten years ago when he got out of
the WWE. So I think thatit's a great thing for him. It's
a great victory, but he's overcomenot having that trademark by leaps and balands.

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But we have to think about allof the talent that maybe that's the
only way that we know them isby their stage name, and maybe they
should be fighting for a little bitmore ownership of that trademark as they're trying
to go in different endeavors outside fromthe WWE. I think it affects his
ability to market himself. For example, in film, he had the nickname
The Rock, but I don't thinkthey could use it in the credits.

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They always had to say Dwayne Johnson. And so now he can use that
to capitalize on his other content.I mean, he's already famous and maybe
more symbolic than anything else, butit will certainly help him. Herman,
what do you think? To behonest, I'm shocked. I believe they
actually gave it up. I wouldbe very curious to find out what is
actually valued at the Rock. Whatis that worth to WWE to actually give

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it up, or what was thatworth todayne because I'm pretty sure he's not
getting any monetary gains like a paymentevery month for being on board, but
I wonder what that was worth tohim to actually get his name, but
congratulation and kudos to him and somethingDamas and I always stress ownership of IP,
intellectual property and even your name isjust crucial in all businesses that you
have. That's a really great point. I wonder if WWE got a big

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tax right off for all right,right, maybe that was part of the
motivation. Tamars, what is youropinion? Sure, I think it's a
great thing that happened. I thinkthis might open a door for new WWE
people to be able to have theopportunity to own that. So overall,
I think it's great and I'm happyto see what happens with the rest of
the talent that comes up. Oh, that's a really great point. I

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think that a lot of wrestlers,you know, have mixed feelings about the
ownership of the WWE and their charactersbecause they put a lot of time and
effort into developing their personas and tonot be able to do it once they
leave the organization and capitalize on anyof the effort that they put in.

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On the one hand, they getthe benefits of the WWE. On the
other hand, once you're gone,there's not much you can do with it.
So that's a really great point.Yeah. So, Richard, if
our listeners want to learn more abouttrademarks, where can they go. I'm
glad you asked. You can goto learn more about trademarks dot com.
And if you're interested in patents,which are kind of related to trademarks,
you can go to learn more aboutpatents dot com. There you can book

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a consultation with me Richard Gerhart,or you can download some free content that
will help you understand trademarks and patentseven better. So thank you for that,
and make sure you go to learnmore about trademarks dot com and learn
more about patents dot com. Nowit's time for our distinguished guest, Nick
Pigeon. Welcome to the show.As I mentioned at the beginning, you're

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a triple certified coach. I thinkthat's the first time we've had a triple
certified coach and business mentor on theshow. Usually they're just certified, right,
But you're triple certified, and you'realso the founder of Unstoppable Success and
the Positive Psychology Coach Academy certification.So tell me how do you maintain a
positive attitude in the times that we'reliving in? I think for the positive

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attitude, it's very much about understandingyou don't have to be positive all of
the time, and there's actually valuein life's challenges and we can learn so
much or we can grow so muchthrough those things as well. But when
it comes to feeling good in yourday, it really is the small daily
activities that add up to produce abig result. So it doesn't have to

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be hard. It can be reallysimple. It's those little things that you
do. One of the simplest thingsis coming back to gratitude. If you
feel grateful for things in your day, the people in your life, your
health, whatever it is for you, you can't not feel good. It's
totally free to do that. Andit's just reminding ourselves that we have so
much and we are so much already. I went to your website. Love

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your website for those of you whohaven't seen next website yet. It is
all about happiness in positive psychology,which I just love and it says,
discover how to use a science ofhappiness to help you. So what is
the science of happiness? So positivepsychology is known as the science of happiness
and the science of success. Soit teaches us what we can do to

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be flourishing and thriving. And there'sfive or six key components. So where
positive psychology came from. Originally,it was invented in the year two thousand,
so it's still pretty new, andit was designed as a counterbalance to
psychology as usual, which focused traditionallyon disorder and disease. So one of

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the theories found in positive psychology thatif we have positive emotions, engagement with
our work and what we're doing,relationships, purpose, accomplishment, and good
health, then we will be flourishing, thriving and successful. Kenya. Yeah,
that's great. I just was curious. I've read on your Instagram that
you've helped get yourself and your clientsover fifty million dollars in sales, So

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I'm curious as to how you've turnedthis into a business model for yourself and
your clients. I mean, I'vebeen doing this for over thirteen years now,
and it used to be a veryweird thing to be involved in.
People didn't know what positive psychology was. They were like, Nick, what
are you doing? Now I thinkit's much more mainstream to understand the link
between psychology and human behavior and beingsuccessful and making money. So whether you're

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looking at a sales process or you'relooking at designing a business model, it
always comes back to you. AndI really teach that we get to do
life in business in the way thatworks for us. So the more you
know yourself, the more you're goingto be able to apply that and work
to your strengths and be more successfulacross the board. That's great. So
what motivated you to get in thebusiness of being positive and teaching other people

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to maintain pass So I had whatI would say is my first early mentor
when I was seventeen or eighteen yearsold. I didn't realize he was a
mentor at the time. It wasmy ex boyfriend's father and he was an
entrepreneur. And when we went ona vacation, he slipped some positive quotes
into the passport holder. So whenI was on the aeroplane, I was

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looking at the tickets and I foundthese things. So there was whether you
think you can or you think youcan't. Either way, you're right right
and if it's to be, it'sup to me. And I've pulled out
these pieces of paper. What isthis? I didn't know what positivity was,
and I couldn't really wrap my headaround it. But I started to
listen and learn from him. Andhe was an entrepreneur and crazy successful.

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He'd actually built of businesses from nothing. He was an orphan. So I
started to really watch and observe andlisten and learn and kind of carve a
path from that initial spark of interest. I also had a conversation with that
boyfriend who was a professional cricket playerwho was seeing a sports psychologist, and
he came back from a and hesaid, Nick, I've had this amazing
experience. I was doing this thingcalled visualization in the session, and the

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psychologist was telling me to imagine I'mon the cricket field and I've got the
fielders and I'm looking for where I'mgoing to hit the ball. And he
said, don't look at the fielders, look for the gaps in between them
instead. Now that hit me likea ton of bricks, and I thought,
imagine if we looked for the gapsin life, we looked for the
opportunities instead of the obstacles. SoI was actually supposed to be a automotive

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engineer, and I was signed upto study engineering at university. Then from
that one conversation. I totally changedmy career path, canceled the engineering degrees.
I thought there's something in this.If we can shift the way that
we think what might be possible,then that is excellent. I have ripped
the mic away from Richard figuratively.Of course, Noah would kill me if

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I did that to a mic.There's a couple questions in the notes that
we have on you that I amjust dying to ask you. So the
first one is one topic of discussionyou indicated you could talk about, was
the psychology of getting really rich?Can you please enlighten us what does richness
mean? First of all? Sofor me, richness is the real rich
is actually relationships. So it's veryexciting, very attractive to talk about wealth

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or talk about money, and it'sa real hook for so many people.
So leading with how to get richusing psychology gets people's attention. Then we
actually explore what is rich. So, yes, you can make money through
psychology because we know when you're happieryou are more successful. We know that
when you're positive you're thirty nine percentmore productive than when you're negative or neutral.

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So all of these things do helpyou make money. And also we
want to focus on the process,the experience, and actually feeling good along
the way as well. That's great. I'm glad that you brought up the
whole wealth paradigm. Would you justkind of break down, like how people
can kind of create that ranking systemthem in their life in terms of what's

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important to them, and like howthey can kind of break through those thresholds
and get to the other side ofwhat wealth looks like from a transformative perspective.
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean thefirst thing is to take stock of
where you feel you're at right now. So I would break down the different
areas of your life, and Iwould give yourself a rating from one to
ten, super simple, how satisfieddo you feel in your career, in

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your relationships, in your health,in your spirituality, in your personal growth?
Because then you've got an initial setpoint and you can start to see
the gap. I would then askthe question, what would it look like
to be a ten out of ten? And then you can start to ask
what would be one positive step thatI could take in that direction to move

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closer towards the goal. And Ithink that success and making money it's so
different, it's so complex and it'svery, very different the way that we
want to experience it from person toperson, and that clarity on what success
looks like it means for you,it really is the first step. Then
we start to look at why doyou want that goal? Like why is

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it important? Why is it meaningful? Because making money being an entrepreneur it's
not the easiest journey, let's faceit. So if you haven't got that
true north within you, the mission, the purpose to connect in with like,
that's really the thing that's going toget you through the hard days.
I couldn't agree with you more.I think understanding the why is a big

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part of being a successful entrepreneur.What is it that commonly stops people?
And what does it take to becometruly unstoppable? Because I think, all
I have these great intentions and weget going and then boom, something side
reels us. It's usually ourselves,but stop us. It's usually something that
comes up in terms of confidence orself belief, whether you realize it or

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not, because that might actually presentitself as self sabotaging behaviors because you don't
believe on a conscious source, subconsciouslevel that you're deserving of success, or
maybe you've got a fear of thefailure that comes with success often, so
it's really interesting looking at and gettinghonest with our patterns to see, actually,

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why didn't I break through to thatnext level of success right now?
And that's a question that I loveto ask. So when students come to
work with us, I say,why didn't you create the result already?
And that self reflection is really powerfuland for me, and this is actually
something we were talking about Duane Johnsonearlier. One of the things that he
teaches and shares is that when yourback's up against the wall, you've got

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nowhere to go apart from forwards.So I think that unstoppable energy, that
unstoppable feeling, is the knowing thatyou will never quit, because the only
way that you can fail is ifyou quit. So if you make that
commitment to yourself to keep on goingno matter what, then you know that
you'll always be successful. A lotof the entrepreneurs that we've worked with fall
into that category. They just havea determination. I mean, how can

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people develop their stamina to keep goingwhen things get really tough. Positive emotions
have an effect that's called broadening andbuilding, so they actually open up our
thinking so that we are more solutionfocused. So the more you experience joy,
excitement, enthusiasm, gratitude, youcan solve problems, build relationships,

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and reach your goals more easily.But the second benefit of positive emotions is
it's almost like storing the results orthe effect for later use, because as
well as having that broadening effect,they're building your psychological toolkit so that when
you come into hard times, you'reable to navigate those hard times more easily.

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So maybe you're able to hold ontothe fact that this is temporary,
or maybe you're able to share alaugh with a friend even though everything's going
wrong. So it's really about howcan we live with greater well being more
of the time, so that whetherit's a great time or hard time,
we get to fully experience and movethrough it all with more grace and more

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ease. There's another thing I reallyreally want to know the answer too,
So how can you grow a worldclass mastermind? I love masterminds and I
have an idea for one that Iwant to do with some project I'm working
on. So I'm really interested tohear what you have to say about this.
Well, absolutely, trial and error. First of all, so I've
always done a lot wrong so thati can do it right. I'm not
scared of testing and failing forward.And we built a really really amazing system

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over the last seven years of runningMasterminds that is very, very slick.
So I really love to have personalizedmentoring and coaching and teaching with a light
team. And technology is amazing now. It supports you in systematizing so much.
I think the most important thing whenyou're running a mastermind is thinking about
how do you actually love to lead? Do you love to do things in

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person? Do you want to dothem online? What does it look like
for you to have your best dayat work? And design it with that
in mind, as well as facilitatingthe client result as well. So there's
a lot of gurus that are outthere right everybody is positive thought, positive
thinking. How are you differentiating yourselfin this very crowded market of self help

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in folks who were teaching people howto be positive. The difference with positive
psychology is it's based on evidence andresearch, so it's all scientifically grounded.
It's tested in labs with these amazingresearchers, so that we're actually moving thought
forwards. So we're looking at let'stake gratitude as an example. Does it
work better to write a gratitude letterto someone to thank them, or does

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it work better to share with somebodyelse three good things that have happened in
your day. Somebody is actually putin work to test those things to see
what it is that has the impact. The other thing that we saw there
was a huge study that done onFacebook users. It was something like seven
hundred thousand people that were in thestudy to look at the effect of positive

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versus negative content, and they actuallymanipulated the new speed so that they reduced
positive content or reduced negative content.And what they saw was that when they
reduce the negative content and increased positiveusers, a Facebook created and generated more
positive content as a result. Sowe're influenced by this emotional contagion, whether

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it's in an interaction in person orjust consuming content online. That's fascinating.
I just wonder, for example,if you're in an environment where there is
a lot of negativity, what aresome of the things that somebody can do
to maintain a positive outlook. Youreally kind of have to put a lot
of energy almost into fighting that.Well, you're right, because you need

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three positive emotions to outweigh one negative. So if you're surrounded by a lot
of negative, you need to bemindful. How are you replacing that with
at least three positives. The otherthing is I really love to invite friends
and myself into no complaining, noblaming, and no gossip. That's just

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a rule if almost like a philosophyor a principle that I have in my
life, my friendships and also ourcoaching programs. And it works so well
because when you share with people likelisten, we don't gossip around here.
It facilitates such an environment of trustand just clean energy. And the fact
is you can't always control how otherpeople show up. So I used to

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have my parents and my family tellme Nick, you cannot be an entrepreneur.
You're terrible at it. You're sobad at this thing. You just
need to go and get a job. So that's not exactly a positive message,
now, absolutely not. I meanfor them, they were trying to
be supportive, but for me,it felt like they were going against what

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I really want. So I hadto flood my brain with so much positive
podcasts, meditations to try and keepmyself on track to drown out that noise
because I knew intuitively the entrepreneurship wasmy path. And I think it's also
important to acknowledge that you don't haveto be happy all of the time,
and it's not about bypassing the challengesin life. It's about maintaining a positive

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attitude most of the time, butalso allowing yourself to feel emotion because all
emotion is valid. Also allowing yourselfto see that the challenges are actually changing
you as well. We get tofully experience and move through it all with
more grace and more ease. NickPigeon Triple certified Coach, business mentor and
founder of Unstoppable Success and the PositivePsychology Coach Academy certification. So we have

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Now back to Passage to Profit onceagain, Richard and Elizabeth Gearhart and our
special guest Nick Pigeon, and weare talking about the science of happiness and

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positivity and how it helps make youmoney and helps you be successful. And
there is something on here about howto prioritize and optimize health as an entrepreneur.
I know sometimes I'll sit down andstart working before I exercise, and
sometimes I don't get as much exercisein as i'd hope. So how do
we prioritize that. I think whenyou know that moving your body moves your
mood, it gives you an extraincentive to do it. And I think

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it's also telling yourself that doing somethingis better than doing nothing. So I
used to find it really really hardto go out for a thirty minute or
a forty minute run because it wasso built up as this like big thing
and it was a mountain to climbinside of my mind. So instead I
started to say to myself, justget out of the door for ten minutes,

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walk, run, just start.And then what I found was that
once I was out there, Iwould run for thirty minutes. So it's
almost like you just have to dosomething and get going, and also find
an exercise that you love. Soif you don't love to go boxing,
don't do boxing. If you don'tlove to dance, don't dance. I

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think it's like we get to carveour own path and do the things that
we really love, which makes usactually want to show up and do it
every day. In terms of likepeople though, who I feel like kind
of get into a situation where theyfeel a little blocked, right, so
maybe they can't put that pep intheir step, maybe they don't even have
it in them to do that tenminutes. Like what is your recommendation to

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get people just taking that initial firststep. The other thing that really works
is just stepping, so getting outand walking. It doesn't have to be
prescriptive exercise. Movement and physical activitycompletely changes the way that you feel.
It's linked to alleviating anxiety, depression, all of the things. So I

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think it's also if you don't wantto do a workout, you don't have
to do it, just focus onmoving more. You can set an alarm
on your phone to stand up,You could set an alarm on your phone
to go out and walk for fiveminutes. Those really simple things going up
and downstairs, really easy things youcan do at home. There really is
no excuse. I want to talka little bit about fear. Isn't fear

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also a motivator? And isn't therealso going to be a certain amount of
fear in our lives that we haveto cope with. And does it make
sense just to kind of gloss overit with positivity. There's definitely fears that
are going to come up in life, and I think fear as a sign
that you're growing. It gives youan opportunity to see where the edge of
your comfort zone is and you candecide to move through it. So in

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terms of motivation, you can havea towards motivator, which is a result
that you want to create or avision that you want to reach. You
can also have in away from motivator, which is what is going to happen
if I don't do this thing?Where might I ender? How bad might
things get? What is the costof me not moving through this comfort zone

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or this edge? And we're eachmotivated by different things, So I think
it's also looking at playing around withOkay, if I focus on the goal,
how much energy does it give metowards it? Or if I focus
on what might happen if I don'tdo this, how much energy and motivation
does that give me? You canalso ask yourself the question what is the

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actual fear in the first place?So fear is this weird thing that kind
of hangs out in the background,and the more we try and push it
away, the stronger it can get. So I say name it, claim
it, and choose to move throughit. So name it. What is
the fear? What does it feellike? What is it you're actually scared

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of? And own it? Tellyourself like I am actually scared of this
thing. Then it has no powerover you. Then the final step choose
to move through it. So Ialways look at for this fit, what
can you contry and what can't youcontrol, because it sends us insane trying
to control the things that we can'tcontrol. So you get clear in the
separation between those things. Let goof what you can't control, choose to

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control what you can, which isyourself, and then take a first step
towards that. So that might looklike doing some sort of peak state practice
or morning ritual to shift your energyand then approach the problem or the challenge,
to take a step from a newenergized place. That is great advice,
But I want to change track alittle bit. You know Sir Richard

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Ranson, So let's talk about SirRichard Branson a little bit. If anybody
doesn't know, he is like theworld's best known entrepreneur and an amazing person.
So he wrote an article about youon his personal blog and you were
also featured in Money alongside him andShaquille O'Neil. How does all this happen?
So with Richards, he's amazing.The first time I ever met Richard,

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he was dressed as Peter Pane.How much fun for going back to
Necker this year, which is reallyexciting now. When I was starting my
businesses a long time ago, twentytwelve, I think I'd had a business
for a little while, and Itook investment from Virgin Money for the huge
amount of eighty five hundred pounds.I then turned that eighty five hundred pounds

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into a multimillion dollar business. Andthe first year I was invited to do
a Google hangout with Sir Richard justas part of this investment thing. So
I did a Google hangout with himwith Elon Musk, and then in twenty
nineteen I ended up going to NeckerIsland and sitting at dinner with Richard and
I said, Richard, do youremember when you did that Google hangout with

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Elon Musk and he was in California, you were on Necker and then there
was a girl who was in Newcastle. He said, yeah, yeah,
I do. Actually I said thatgirl with me. I said, you
gave me eighty five hundred pounds backthen, and I turned it into a
multimillion dollar business, and he wasfascinated by the story. I then went
back to Neka last year and Itook nine of my students, all of
who had broken through the million dollarmark. I said, Richard, I'm

(30:07):
back. I've got nine entrepreneurs.They've done it too, and he said,
Nick, can I interview you?I thought, hang on a minute,
what was going on with my lifehere? Richard Branson wants to interview
me. So he said, afterbreakfast, let's sit down and I want
to know about your story. Andhe went away and he said, I'm
going to write this up into ablog. And I was just so impressed

(30:29):
by his character to do what hesaid he was going to do and put
that article on the blog that itjust meant so much to me that he'd
kept his word. And it's suchan inspirational story for entrepreneurs all around the
world because I started from nothing.Did you find Elon Musk and Richard Branson
to be positive people? Richard's definitelya positive person. He is so much

(30:51):
fun. Elon I actually only spokewith for a short time on that Zoom
call, and he ended up whenI asked him what the most emotional thing
was that he'd done in business.So it was really interesting because he was
telling about when he had sold PayPaland he was faced with choosing to invest
in either SpaceX or Tesla, andhe felt like these companies were his kids

(31:17):
and he didn't want either one ofhis children to starve, so he put
all of his money into both andhad no money for himself and had to
sleep on a friend's couch. AndI mean, there's so much positivity in
that story of going all in andtaking a bet on yourself, taking a
big risk, and then look howit's paid off for him. Yeah,
you bring up a good point too, like even about risk taking, and

(31:38):
sometimes we can have like this negativemindset towards that. What advice do you
give towards people when they have totake a big risk or they have to
make a big shift or a change, and like how to overcome the negative
narrative that might be there when itcomes to that. Sometimes we need that
big leap of faith to really createthe breakthrough. I spoke earlier on about
the small daily actions that compound togreat success. But it's that combined with

(32:02):
being able to see the opportunity andfearlessly go for your dreams in that moment.
And I think that my practice ormy learning has very much been if
it doesn't work out, you're stillfurther along than you would have been if
you hadn't have taken the step,because you're going to have the lessons and
learnings that you've got from it.Well, we did that when we started
Pass to profit everybody that was crazy, and here we are. We're still

(32:25):
crazy. I mean five years later. Think about the little sea that was
sown. It's been almost six years. Are well, thank you for that,
right, And here we are.We're syndicated in twenty more markets and
we have a top five percent globalpodcast global podcast also, yeah, and
the top five percent of podcast globally. How that happen was well, it

(32:47):
was a lot of hard work.It was a lot of hard work.
So, Nick, I wanted toask you about your book. Now is
your Chance? Can you tell usa little bit about that? Yeah?
So now is your Chance? Asa toolbook that gives you a tool,
some and simple, every single dayfor thirty days so that you can start
living your happiest life using positive psychology. So if someone called it the Bible

(33:08):
for happiness, which I just loved. And the other thing that I love
about it is you can just flipit open to a page. If you
don't want to follow it day byday, just flip it open to a
page. See what's in store foryou. Put that tool into action,
and I guarantee you'll feel better asa result. Great. And where can
people find the book? It's onAmazon, it's in bookstores. You can
grab it from my website, Nickpigeondot com as well. And can you

(33:30):
spell your name please? Absolutely?NIYC and then pigeons like the bird,
but with a D N it pidge o N. That's a very unusual
way to spell nick. Yeah,it's actually interesting. So Nick, now
is your chance? YC? Peoplesay, oh, did you change your

(33:50):
name so that it would be nowis your Chance? And I said no,
it was spelt like that before,and then the book just kind of
the idea for the book came inafterwards. But my my full name is
Nikola, and I actually got bulliedreally badly when I was a kid,
when I was eleven or twelve,and I went through the subtle microidentity crisis
where when I moved schools, Iwanted to reinvent myself, so I changed

(34:14):
the spelling of my name. Soit came from way back then and it's
just stuck with me ever since.That's a great story. We've enjoyed talking
with you on Passage to Profit.I feel motivated and inspired to become more
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(36:38):
Nick Pichon, who is a positivitycoach triple certified. Buy her book and
connect with her on her website.Now it's time for Power Move, can
you. So I'm really excited aboutPower Moves today because we actually have both
of our power Movers here in thestudio with us today. So Herman Dulce
and his partner Demeris Long and gotan opportunity to have a great converse with

(37:00):
you earlier about how you are changingmindsets when it comes to money and helping
people out of those negative situations whenit comes to their finances. So I
just wanted you to share a littlebit about your platform super quick and where
people can find you and what youhelp them do. Absolutely. My name
is Herman Dalci. I'm founder ofBellisloan Enterprises, and I came with my
amazing CEO, de Maris Long.We have a financial literacy firm where we

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primarily teach people of all ages,even people as low as high school.
I'm about financial literacy, fixing theircredit, understanding credit and using that to
start businesses and getting funding in theirbusiness's name. Great, and we're going
to hear a little bit more fromyou after this next segment from Power Move
to Elizabeth's Projects Callous Sweat. You'reup to Elizabeth, So I usually talk

(37:44):
about Bluestreak. I'm still doing that. I'm working on the website. I'm
still doing the Jersey Podcasts, podcastswith Danielle Woolley, and I do want
to say here there's some other thingsI'm working on. I'm not going to
get into, but Richard and Ijust got back from Podfast in Florida.
An amazing time we had. Welearned so much about everything to do with

(38:06):
podcasting. One thing that we learnedthat just blew me out of the water.
Everyone I've told us kind of like, oh, that's nice, but
this blew me out of the water. YouTube is moving to translate every video
into every language and make the lipsmatch the words. So if you're on
YouTube, think about it. Youmay be talking to somebody I don't know

(38:27):
in India in their language. You'vegot an international business. You should say
that every time you go on YouTube. Anyway. I just think it's gonna
be a real game changer. Ithink it's a great idea, but it's
kind of scary because like, whatif they get it wrong right and you
the translation machine translations. So Ilearned a lot. That was one of

(38:51):
the things that I'm putting it towork. In some of my newer projects
that I'll talk about as time goeson. But let's get back to Herman
Dolci and the Maris Long and hearmore about their business. It's called Belasloan
llc dot com. Anyway, tellus all about what you guys are doing.
Belso Enterprises is a financial literacy company. We basically, like he's mentioned

(39:13):
earlier, we teach people the importanceof personal credit, business credit, and
also give them the fundamental ideas ofwhat it means to actually run a business
and to fund that business and toscale and grow on a more corporate level.
Do you help people raise money?Raise money? No, show you
how to get money and be structuredproperly for your business. So what are
some of the things you tell yourclients. So some of the things we
teach our clients is number one,get your credit together. A lot of

(39:37):
people don't know much about credit andhow to leverage it. So that's the
first thing we teach them, howto fix their credit, get those collections
off, things like that. Thesecondary thing we teach them is how to
structure your business properly so that you'reable to get as much capital as possible.
So What I mean by that iswhen you set up your LLC,
make sure it's a good business name. You have an address, business address,

(39:57):
business phone number, business email.You want to as professional as possible
before you go to Chase or Bankof America or American Express. You want
to look pro to them. Andin combination with your good credit and a
business that is structured properly, nowyou're able to get capital in your business's
name that's not in your personal name, so you can max out these cards
and it's not going to hurt yourpersonal credit as zero percent interest, so

(40:21):
it's cheat money when you're first startingout your business, which is very important
to new entrepreneurs. That's a greatsuggestion because getting the money together to start
is often one of the stumbling blocksfor new businesses. Do you have to
present like a business plan when you'retalking with the banks so when you're first
starting out to build a relationship withthese banks, No, you don't need

(40:44):
to have a business plan, butthe rule of thumb is you should have
a business plan. Because we teachour clients here's how you can get twenty
five thirty forty one hundred thousand dollars. I would love for you to personally
have a business plan so you're ableto execute affect actively. But primarily the
banks want to make sure that youhave good credit personally, because if you

(41:05):
took care of your personal credit,then they feel you take care of the
business credit also. So once theentrepreneur secures the money, what are usually
the next steps? So what areusing the next steps is investing in their
business. So usually they hire morepeople for their business, they solidify infrastructure,
they put it into marketing, theyget better websites, things like that
that helped generate more business for them. A lot of them actually just get

(41:28):
more inventory for their business so theycan scale. I've heard repeatedly. Maybe
it's different now because I haven't checkedit for a few years, but for
companies to get investment funding, theykind of have to be run by a
white man. Is that still true? No, not necessarily. If your
paperwork is together, if your businessis structured properly, it's actually not as

(41:49):
hard as some people think. Now, when you're trying to get investments from
other people, that's when they're goingto ask for a business plan. That's
where they're going to ask for letme see revenue, profit and loss,
etc. Because way way we teachit is how to do personal guarantee funding
where they look at your personal financesin terms of your credit alone, and
if that's good, then sky's prettymuch the limit. Yeah, Elizabeth raises
a good point because I think there'slike a big misconception, especially in communities

(42:14):
of color and even with investors whodon't necessarily look like us. Which is
one of the reasons why Power Moveis a play in the show is because
you know, we have a greatnews talk audience that we speak to,
and we want to get people wholook like us in front of people who
don't look like us when it comesto investment opportunities. So how should we
as a community of color be positionedin the marketplace when we're looking at investments

(42:37):
and like people looking at us asan investment presentation is everything Again. The
name of my company is Bella SloanEnterprises. I named it after my firstborn
daughter. When I present the businessto American Express, I like to call
out my bank's business partners because they'remy first investors. So when I present
myself to them, they tell mewhat they want from me. It's like,

(42:57):
hey, is your business structure properly. Do you have a real business
address or real business phone number.My business email is info at Bellasloan Enterprises
dot com, not Bellaslane at Gmail. That doesn't look pro that doesn't look
professional. We have a real eighthundred number. It's not my cell phone.
So I already know what my firstinvestors require of me. So that's
what I teach and position myself toraise as much capital as possible. Now

(43:21):
after I've executed it on that andI'm trying to get half a million a
million dollars from angel investors or investorsthat don't look like me, I know
what they require. What are therevenues, How is your business structure?
How employees do you have? Whatdoes your HR look like? So if
we put a million or five millionin here, do you know what that's
going to turn into? What areyour numbers? It's almost like Shark Tank.

(43:43):
When you go on there, youbetter know your numbers. Kevin o'lary
says Nick. Do you have aquestion or comment? I definitely think that
making yourself look bigger than you areor is a smart move when you're starting
out coming from the UK, wealways charge in dollars rather than in pounds
because nobody knows what the pound iswhen I moved to the States. It's
exactly what I had to do whenI was starting out as well, and

(44:06):
I just don't think this information isreadily available for entrepreneurs. So I love
what you guys are doing because peoplereally really need it, right, and
with entrepreneurship on the rise, Iread the other day that two out of
five Americans now are thinking about startingtheir own businesses. And one of the
first things you want to do isask yourself, well where do I start?
Well, getting capital is really important. You don't necessarily want to put

(44:30):
your own savings at risk, right, And a lot of times entrepreneurs are
starting businesses later in their careers,so they might be tapping into money that
they were saving for their kids collegeor for their retirement. It certainly helps
a lot if they have the optionto go to a bank and get money
right from the get go, nothaving to put up their personal assets.

(44:52):
So what else do you help yourclients with? Another thing we help our
clients is actually connecting them with peoplelike you guys. Right, That's super
important because sometimes once they get thecapitol, they was like, all right,
well, where do I go marketmy business? Or where do I
go fulfill my T shirt order?Or who's going to help me build their
website? Because they got the moneynow not exactly know who the proper vendors,

(45:13):
because Damaris always talks about making yourselflook as corporate as possible, So
we'd like to call ourselves the connectors. Bellison Enterprises started another academy. We
call it Bellison Academy, and wehave our mentees that we call our executors.
Because we give you this ext information, we want you to execute on
it. And then we have thesecalls every Wednesday night and we connect them
with different people, like, Hey, you want to start a podcast,

(45:36):
let me invite Kenya on the showand she'll give you some behind the scene
tips on what to do. Oryou want to learn how to market your
business, let me invite a marketerto come here to teach you what to
do. Because we learned during thepandemic that a lot of money was printed
and a lot of money was wasted. Because we had to take some accountability
that we got a people a lotof money, but they didn't know what

(45:57):
to do with it specifically once theygot it. So we took some acountability
start a bellisone academy to ensure themthat we connect them to the right people,
I think really great. Yeah,I was just going to say,
really important piece of business is therelationships that you have. So it's a
lot about who you know and whoyou connect with, whether it's for helping
with promotion or just getting information findingout about new opportunities that you hadn't heard

(46:22):
about before. I think all ofthat is that relationship piece that you're doing
through your meetings I think is reallypositive. Absolutely, Nick, Do you
have any comments there, Yeah,I think it's invaluable. It's a mindfield
when you start up in business.So if you can be the link to
these resources, whether it's higher inteam or connecting with opportunities, I think

(46:43):
it's smart as well because they rememberyou as the person that helped them not
just with the one thing, butalso opening up this whole new world of
opportunities for them as well. Yeah. Word of mouth has been major for
our business and it's absolutely taking usto the next level. I think people
who are maybe start out in thecorporate environment and then end up in the

(47:04):
entrepreneurial environment, there's a transition there. So if you are thinking that you
want to start your own business andyou maybe are not sure, you need
to start trying to build a networkbefore you leave your corporate environment. Because
if you just go from corporate,your networks are mostly internal in corporate,
right, But if you're going tobe an entrepreneur, your networks are out

(47:27):
there in the world, and youwant to start trying to build that network
early before you make the move.And that's what we teach our what we
have a foundation called Blupin Foundation,so we teach the kids that too,
so we help like young athletes,we help young children in camps understand that
importance too, So we teach themall that process of being able to build
that network so that when they dotransition into being an adults, they have

(47:49):
the understanding of how to network,how corporate works, and also how to
be an entrepreneur to be successful too. Speaking of people you help, I
heard a rumor that you may helpsome celebrities don't there's a little, just
a little few, a lot ofathletes who really don't know the foundations of
being a business because a lot ofthem they can pay personally, and we
think it's best that you pay yourbusiness to just separate yourself from all that

(48:10):
stuff and have that proper structure andsupport. So we kind of give them
that guidance in regards to that.That is smart. That is so smart.
Oh my gosh, that one littletidbit. If anybody's listening, it's
worth a lot Herman, Dolci anddemaras long. How do people find you?
They can find us on our websiteBella Sloan LLC. So that's b

(48:32):
E l l A s l oA n l l C dot com.
Or they can follow me on InstagramHaitian Underscore CEO. We look forward to
being a service to you. Excellent. Thank you. So now we are
on to our next guest, KimberlyCurie with OUI Beauty and OUI Cosmetics dot

(48:53):
com is her website and she reallyhas a special product line, so she's
going to tell us all about it. Welcome Kimberly. Thank you. This
has been so much fun so far, so thank you for having me.
My name's Kimberly Curry. I'm amaster asthetician, skin educator, I own
a spa and soon to be anauthor. I'm coming out with a book
in the next few weeks, whichthis is the first time I'm saying that

(49:15):
publicly. So you heard it herefirst, babes. Yeah, you have
to tell us about it. Iwill. Yeah. So I launched my
product line in twenty nineteen, whichwas a really great year to start your
business. Yeah, really great,you tell me that. Yeah. Yeah.
So I started my product line.It originally was a cosmetics based product

(49:38):
line where I came out with basicallywhat celebrities were pushing. But I thought
we're not that great of quality.I redeveloped and came out with what I
thought was great quality. I happenedto stumble into a space where a friend
of mine was like, you shouldstart a spa again. So I opened
a spa in the fall of twentynineteen. And when I was establishing that,

(50:00):
I realized that I could not finda product line for skincare that I
loved their you know, backbar lineand also their retail line. So I
took that opportunity to really develop astrong product that I believed could work in
a spa setting and at home.So I really focused my skincare formulation process
on what I saw clients need.Over the past I've been in a Cetisian

(50:22):
for fourteen years. What I reallysaw that they need. I noticed that
a lot of clients believe that,you know, have sensitive skin, have
acne, have problematic skin, whenreally it's a damaged barrier layer. Your
skin is damaged and it's reacting becauseit's damaged. Your skin is an organ
So if you think about over time, if you damage your liver, eventually
that crumbles your skin is the sameexact way. That's why some people age

(50:45):
better, some people age worse.So I developed a product line that's really
concentrated. It's very clean, it'svegan, all the ingredients are sustainably sourced,
it's pairbin free, so it's thingsthat people want in a product.
But it's also very effective, andit's effective in rebuilding your barrier layer of
your skin. So that's reducing yoursensitivities, that's reducing your reactions. People

(51:06):
think they have acne when really theirskin is just reacting with breakouts to what's
happening to it. So I launchedthis product line and then I reformulated everything
to be fully vegan. Last year. Everything follows EU compliance, so the
European Union bands over sixteen hundred chemicalsfor skincare and cosmetics where the FDA bans
less than fifty So it's a veryvery clean product and like I said,

(51:28):
very effective. So I've been sellingthat in my spa for the last four
years, and I've just reached thepoint in my own journey of being an
entrepreneur to be able to take thatnationally. So that's where I'm headed this
year. Wow. Great, Sowhat is your source of motivation as an
entrepreneur. What is it that you'retrying to do to play it forward?
Sure? So, I believe yourtriumphs of an entrepreneur and your value as

(51:51):
an entrepreneur is only as great asthe product that you're giving to your consumer.
I don't believe that everybody that callsthemselves an entrepreneur is really that value
to society. So I believed thatif I put out a great product,
I focused on the product first andthe branding second, which in the beauty
industry is actually opposite. Everyone comesout with this amazing branding and bottling and

(52:12):
packaging, but the product inside ofit is prap. So I decided to
take it backwards approach, and ifI could never see my original packaging again,
it would be too soon, youknow. But the product inside was
so so good. So I've reallytaken the approach that I'm only as good
as the product that I'm giving out. It's the only product that I use,
that's the only product I recommend,and it's because I do believe that
it's the best, because I formulatedit that way. Nick, Do you

(52:32):
have any questions or comments. I'mliterally like, I need you in my
life. I love all of thisand I didn't even know this about the
band substances. It's amazing what you'recreating. I just think it's such a
like a future led concept to beable to build a product in this way
that we're actually using on our skinevery single day. A lot of people

(52:53):
don't realize this, but the topforty selling skincare brands in the country aren't
founded by people our skincare professionals.Eh. So that would be like going
to a trainer that's never worked outbefore, or a chef that's never made
a dinner before. Right. Sothat's something that I was doing some research,
you know, I was deep divingall these brands. Who are their

(53:13):
founders, who made it? Who'sthe founders, you know? And I
was like I would never trust thesepeople to touch. First off, they
can't legally even put lotion on yourskin in most states, so how are
they creating a product to go outto the masses. I think that factoid
rings true though, because you reallydo if for something as personal as skincare,
you really want it to come fromsomebody that has a passion and a

(53:36):
connection to it. So I thinkthat's amazing that you found that. Can
you. Yeah, I wanted totouch on diversity in the beauty space for
a second only because I feel like, depending on the brand, some of
them have cracked the code on termsof like what works well for different ethnic
backgrounds. So I'm curious to seeis that an approach that you're taking from
your skincare development? Absolutely, thisactually gives me kind of emotional response here.

(54:00):
But I really really pride myself inmy spot in Pittsburgh that we see
all races and we see all ages, And I take that too hard.
Is that we're doing something so rightbecause the beauty space has been so unfairly
divided for its entire existence. AndI take pride that I can help girls

(54:20):
with a lot of melanin recover fromhyperpigmentation. I can advise them on what
not to do to get more hyperpigmentation. You know, I can help an
elderly person that's just at a placeof despair because they hate the look that
they're getting. I can help recommendnot only skin but services to help them
get back to feeling better. AndI can help young girls stop wasting money
on TikTok trends and actually do somethingthat's going to benefit their skin and not

(54:44):
break the bank. So I'm soproud of diversity in my clients that use
the product and it works for themas well, because at the end of
the day, it doesn't have tobe divided our skin. Though it looks
different, it can respond very verysimilarly. So thank you for asking that
question. So, Kimberly, I'mprobably gonna get on a plane to Pittsburgh.
But let's say I can't get onthe plane and said, like,

(55:06):
can I buy some of your productsand use them myself? How would I
figure out what to use and howto use it? Absolutely? So my
products can be very well mixed.Right, It's not a set like you
need this, you need this,you need this. But I use a
lot of products that have a lotof keywords that people you know are starting
to recognize. But I'm also directlyavailable for all of purchases. Everything comes

(55:28):
to me. I am self funded, I am self run. I do
have some employees, but when youhit my Instagram, it comes to me.
If you hit the website, itcomes to me. I'm very very
hands on with it. And ifyou are at a loss, if you're
not sure what you're looking for,you can completely reach out and I'll advise
you in the best way. Okay, well, let's stick around after this
show and you can advise me.So what are your plans for the future.

(55:53):
I mean, what do you wantto do in twenty twenty four with
your brand? Well, Alt,if you're listening, Yeah, So I
would love to be in a nationalretailer. I am in a few conversations
with different national retailers, also lookinginto small regional retailers. I really want
a space. I don't believe injust putting in my product in anywhere that
I can get in because I don'tsee any value in that. I wanted

(56:15):
to be in a direct sales situationwhere there's somebody that can advise on the
product that I can actually teach aswell, because there's so much misinformation in
the beauty space. I mean,a fifteen year old can upload a TikTok
and it could get four million viewsand they could say, you know,
put this slime on your face andeveryone will be like, yeah, I
need the slim on my face.Right. So I really believe in the
education base of the sales approach becauseI've also seen it be so successful in

(56:37):
my own SPA. I've a fiftytwo percent repurchase rate on my product in
the SPA, and the national averageis less than thirty five. So I've
seen what it can do with alittle bit of education, and that's the
space that I'm hoping to get into. And yeah, that's my goal this
year is to be able to bein more people's bathrooms. Yeah, it's
funny you say that about the kids. I saw something on TV where these

(57:01):
young girls are using cosmetics and theydon't know what they're doing to their skin
with them. I can't be morethrilled that the next generation is more into
skin than makeup. I couldn't bemore thrilled, right. I love this
new natural kind of approach and everyonereally taking time to heal their skin.
I mean when I was in highschool, it was like here's sain ives

(57:22):
apricot scrub, like go scrub offyour face and yeah for the best.
Right. So it's great, butthey're they're following too many trends on TikTok,
they're in social media where they're tellingthem like, oh, to have
the perfect glossy skin, you mustuse retin all this that and that's that,
not realizing that the people the agethat you're starting to use that is
to get the skin that these twelveyear olds already have, right do you
know we're trying to get back tothat. Yeah? Correct, Because when

(57:45):
you're young, your skin cell turnoverrates, so your cells on your face
and on your body shed over acourse of a cycle. Ultimately you want
that cycle to be around thirty days. That's that's healthy. Well, when
you're young, that's less than thirtydays. Right, So as you get
older, your skin and your cellto an overweight slows down and it slows
down and it slows down. Yeah. Right, So creating you know,

(58:06):
a healthy skincare routine where you're addingretinals, which retinal is a chemical exfolian.
It helps keep that cell turnover rategoing at a healthy speed. That's
making you look more youthful. It'ssoftening the fine lines and harsher lines.
But these young kids they don't needit. But they see people with these
glover skins saying like I use this. Well yeah, but they're using that
so they can look like they're undertwenty one again, right, Well,
what's the trick? What's the trick? Yeah, So the trick is is

(58:30):
a double cleanse every night. Yougotta be double cleansing your face with a
very very gentle cleanser. If it'sfoaming on your face when you're putting on,
I want you to switch to somethingthat's a little bit more creamy that
doesn't have a sud. There's atime and place for SuDS, don't get
me wrong, But your skincare routineat night, the perfect storm is a
double cleans with a cream cleanser followedby a chemical exfulient toner or a vitamin
C based toner, followed by whateveryour skin is needing. If you're having

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redness, something to fight redness,So that could be something that's a willow
bark based theorem. If you're lookingfor hydration, hyaluronic acid is one of
the best ingredients that you could belooking for, because what that is your
skin already has that naturally. Sothe hiyhaluronic acid, what it does is
it helps naturally protect your skin's moisturewithout adding oil or something heavy on top.

(59:14):
So hyaluronic acid if you are overtwenty five, definitely a form of
retinal. If you're using retinyl,you could start a zero point one percent
or point five I have point fivepercent. If you have a sensitive skin,
I look for like an oil basedretinal, not the one that's from
like a dermatologist that's like a veryvery harsh cream. And then you can
use a beauty oil. You coulduse a thick moisturizer with vitamin C.

(59:37):
Those are the things that you shouldbe looking at. Things that have antioxidants.
White tea, green tea, grapeseed oil, things like that.
Those are really really good ingredients tosee. That's what my products are heavily
concentrated with. Wow, that's good. Changing gears just a little bit.
The name of your product is ohUi Beauty over Under and in how did

(59:58):
you come up with that name?Well, originally it was going to be
we because I had a yes,I had a I lost my dad,
who was my greatest inspiration to becomean entrepreneur. And I went on a
little bit of a spiral girl's tripto Paris actually, and there we were
a visiting a friend of mine whoworks in the perfume industry, and I
just had always wanted to start aline since I was twelve years old.

(01:00:20):
Those were the conversations that I washaving with my dad in the car about
starting a business, starting a productline. I thought I wanted to work
for a line, and he said, well, why don't you create your
own? Right? And I wasa you know, teenager, like dad,
nobody does that, right. SoI went to Paris and I saw
my friend who's working in this amazingindustry and she's just still one of my
biggest inspirations in this in this life. And I had my yes moment in

(01:00:42):
France. I was like, yes, I'm going to do this. When
I get back, I'm going tostart, and so we in French is
Yes. It was my yes moment, and you know, I decided to
create an over under and in beautyand it all kind of just that's great,
perfect. Can you tell us thename of your book or is that
still under rep No, I'm soexcited to talk about this. So this
is actually coming from the opposite sideof the product side and more into the
SPA ownership side. It's called theEsthetician Playbook. I've only hired people from

(01:01:06):
my SPA straight out of school,and I've learned a lot about teaching them
and training them and getting them upto speed on what they need to just
be able to walk into a placeand touch a client. And so I
decided it would be a really greattime to kind of just streamlight that into
a book and have them basically,this is what you do next when you
graduate. Well, I'm definitely talkingto you after the show, but for

(01:01:28):
right now, we have to wrapup this segment. So how do people
find you? Sure? So,my website is OUI Beauty dot co or
we Cosmetics dot com. It leadsto the same place, and my Instagram
is oh period you period I periodBeauty excellent. Thank you very much,
Kimberly, Thank you guys. Thiswas great. I love it. So
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never stops trying to make sense ofthe future by looking at the past,
I'm not wearing any pants, Billmiddle eleven. That's got to be the
oldest TV anchor man spoof joke inthe world, and it isn't even funny
anymore. Think about it. We'reall sort of our own anchor people in
our own right now. We're appearingon our team's meetings, our zoom meetings,

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all looking great from the waist up, seated in our homes, our
bedrooms, our living rooms. Well, why would you necessarily need to be
wearing pants in a situation like that. It's kind of irrelevant. Now,
this is the common image, it'sthe accepted understanding of who we are,
of how we exist, and that'sonly the beginning. Have you been on
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(01:03:46):
headshots in place of their cartoon avatars. It's kind of adorable, you know,
the image of ourselves as we'd liketo be in cartoon form. Pretty
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it's great. We don't even haveto leave the house or get dressed.
Fabulous. Well, actually, Istill want to make sure I look good
though, because I may have totake my computer in for repairs, and
well I'm gonna need to get dressedto do that. And I even have
my pants picked out now more withRichard and Elizabeth Passage to Profit, I
think it's been an amazing show.I've learned so much more about skincare than

(01:04:31):
I've ever known, and that's agood thing thing and it works for men
to Is that like some sort ofhint or something? But anyway, it's
time for the question. So Elizabethhas a question that she likes to ask
at the end of every show.So what is the question? I'm gonna
start with Nick Pigeon? What isone thing that makes you happy? So?
I know you have many, butwhat is one? Do you know

(01:04:53):
what makes me happy? Going inmy icepa that cold? Have you been
doing that a long time? Probablyabout yeah? Now, yeah, I
love it was the biggest game changeI getting one in the house. Oh
my gosh, life hock. Ilike tried the cold shower thing, and
that's even too much for me,you know, But a nice bath.

(01:05:13):
Oh my gosh, you so HermanDulcie. Can you top that? One?
Is one thing that nothing near that? To be honest. Two things
my freedom that I have with mytime and my two amazing beautiful daughters,
Bella and Olivia. Extremely happy toMarrislan, what's one thing that makes you
happy? Food? Are you angryright now? Hungry though? Okay?

(01:05:40):
Kimberly Curry, what's one thing thatmakes you happy? My son? I
have a three year old son namedClark after my father, and he is
an angel among us. He isthe best thing in the world. Kenya
Gibson, what's one thing that makesyou happy? I would have to say
being healthy. That's a good thingthat makes me very happy. It's very
Are you just such a peace ofmind? I agree, that's a very

(01:06:02):
positive thing. What makes me happy? You were going to ask me,
weren't you? Yeah? Okay,I was in good night's sleep. I
sleep every time. I always answerthis question with sleep, So I guess
I must be sleep deprived or something. I have so many things that make
me happy, my kids, food, definitely, sleeping, so but I

(01:06:23):
think, like for a recent experience, coming home from a trip and walking
into my house and having all mycreature comforts there. Very happy. And
you're going to have a new grandbaby that's going to make you so happy,
and I'm so excited. And theymay have moved the do date up
for various reasons, but it couldbe pretty soon. Nice. So with

(01:06:43):
that, we'll go through everybody's websitesone more time quickly. So Nick Pigeon
niy cp I d G E ON dot com, get a hold of
her if you want to find outhow to be happy and successful. Also
check out her book Now is YourChance, which is available on a right
right Herman Dolci and Demarslan Bellasloan LLCdot com. So just like it sounds

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b E l l A s lo A N LLC dot com. So
if you want to find out howto manage money and make the best of
what you have, contact them andtheir techniques for getting capital from banks sound
amazing, so make sure you checkthat out. Yeah, and Kimberly Curiy
with OUI Beauty. It's Oui Cosmeticsdot com. Really great skincare, so

(01:07:31):
reach out. Nothing can be betterthan looking great, right, Well,
I don't know half millions of dollarsthat help, so that might help you
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