3PM Dr. Lederman discusses various treatments for cancer

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The following is a paid podcast.iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an
endorsement of the products offered or theideas expressed for cancer treatment. Most prefer
effective, non invasive, well tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman,
the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.Doctor Liederman is first in America, first
in New York, First for youwith body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your

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cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades of experience with
primary and metastatic large or small cancersfrom head to toe cancer treatment with possibly
a second chance for you even ifchemo radiation or surgery didn't work or isn't
tolerated. Goals are your best resultsand quality of life. Meet doctor Leaderman

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to hit the cancer. He's NewYork's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation
oncologist. Call two one two choicestwo one two choices to meet doctor Liderman
for a fresh second opinion. Mostinsurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted free with DVD
two super convenient Broadway in thirty eighthin Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit
your cancer, called two one twochoices two one two choices. It's Doctor

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Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who singsand writes about his cancer treatment. Thirteen
eighty four Broadway and thirty eight.Cataplane hop a train, don't has a
tap? Call two on two choicesfor an appointment, Mate, so cancer
can be said straight? My cancerit was twenty two centimeters. Now I
am cancer free. No cutting,no bleeding, no hospital stay, no

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chemo therapy. I'm grateful to Doctaleder Man at New York Radio Surgery.
No cutting, no bleeding, nohospitals. Day made me very happy.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. If the address my cancer had been
set straight? Called to on twochoices for an appointments Mate, Do toleeder

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Men's top rights. For more informationabout innovative cancer treatment, called doctor Leederman
two and two choices, two andtwo choices, thirteen eighty four Broadway.
Most insurance is accepted for newer recurrentcancers. Call Doctor Leaderman two and two
choices. Welcome everybody. It's theRadio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman,

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MD, New York's only Harvard trainedTriple Board certified radiation oncologist who brings you
the latest cancer treatment news, interviewingworld renowned cancer experts, delving to special
cases, and of course answering yourquestions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from
the WR Studios in the heart ofNew York City, and now please welcome

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doctor Leaderman. Thank you Rob,and thank you no and thank you for
listening today and every day on theradio. We're here every day. Why
to learn together, to learn thingsto get better health healthcare. If God
forbid you or your loved one orfamily or friend, or even that person
down the street has a cancer,either a new cancer or recurrent cancer,

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or cancer just won't go away,he might learn a lot. And we
know that radio listeners save lives.I know that because I meet patients every
day and I talk to my patients, and I take notes, and I
come here and we talk about eachof the patients who come by. You
may not know exactly what their nameis or their address, but you'll know

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enough to learn the lessons like thisman. For example, I'm we talk
about a man right now who's eightysix years old. He comes from Jamaica.
He's widowed with four children. Hishigh blood pressure is prostate cancer,
and he was on loopron, whowas on hormones for twenty years. His
doctor kept him on loopron for twentyyears with inadequate treatment of his prostate cancer.

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It is he might say, nonuts, yeah, nuts, because
lupron. First of all, there'sa cost, there's side effects. Lupron
is an anti testosterone agent, soit takes away his testosterone for twenty years.
He's eighty six, and he's aspray man. He's fully active,
he's carrying on all his normal activities. He came in I should tell you
he came in years ago. Hecame in years ago. He had inadequate

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radiation treatment elsewhere. He went elsewhereand his treatment was not adequate, not
optimal, and his doctor put himon lupron. He bet him on this
railroad, tracked lupron eternity, andwell, finally the men got fed up
with his doctor and he came herefor a fresh second opinion. And so

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many people come here for fresh secondopinions. So people come here and they
want to know, Hey, doI have cancer? So they want to
check up. Some people come herewhen they want to know what should I
do for my newly diagnosed cancer whatare all the options, and we talk
about all the options. Were sodifferent than most places. It seems like

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most doctors kind of like sell whatthey do. The surgeons to surgery,
chemo does chemo, and the radiationis no, we don't do it that
way at all. We talk aboutall the options, and then there's people
who've had cancer diagnosed in the past, like this man, and they're just
not satisfied. It took him twentyyears. Twenty years of loopron. I

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can tell you lupron causes weakness,takes away testosterone, takes away sexual feelings
and erections. There's weight gain andother things, none of which are very
favorable. And he came to meand we got his records for twenty years,
and the amazing good thing is thathis cancer was localized and we offered

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him treatment. He came here yearsago after he'd been treated elsewhere with inadequate
radiation therapy. Then he had loopronfor twenty years, and the men was
fed up with it. He justdidn't want loupron. Another day, another
minute, and he came here andwe treated him years ago and now he
is cancer free, doing well withus. He just had a short course

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of treatment, not twenty years oftreatment, not inadequate radiation, but he
had focused treatment by the doctor firstwith radio surgery in the Western Hemisphere,
when all the other places doing standardtreatment, one doctor stood up and say,
there's a better way. We shouldfocus the treatment on the cancer,
not unhealthy tissue. And so manydoctors and so many facilities and so many

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hospitals, and oh, that guy'sa charlatan, when in fact it only
makes sense that you should treat thecancer and not the healthy tissues. And
this technology was never available or before, doctor Liederman. And this is the
work we do every day at thirteeneighty four Broadway. So for this man,

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he had cancer, he was dissatisfiedwith his care. He came for
a fresh second opinion, and thankgod we treated him. He's been cancer
free for years after our treatment,with our treatment only no chemo, no
hormones, no surgery, no cutting, no bleeding. And this is the

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work that we do every day.And we have lots of information to send
you. We have booklets and DVDs. You can call our office and you
call now or whenever you want toget a package mailed to you. It
no charge, is no obligation andmany people come to our office in person
and get a package or information forthemselves and someone else, a friend or

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a loved one, someone in need. And I can tell you so many
radio listeners pass on the word theyhear about cancer. Often it's just even
in a grocery store or restaurant.They're someone talking about cancer and they pat
him on the shoulder and say,hey, you may want to see doctor
Liederman. This man came saw usthirteen eighty four Broadway, except his insurance.

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We put together all the facts,we've got his paperwork for twenty years,
and then offered him treatment, allthe options we talked about, all
the options local, regional, systemiccombination, even no therapy, and he
chose our treatment and he's now cancerfree years later. And this is the
work we do every day for newor recurrent cancers, most anywhere in the

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body. I want to talk abouta woman who comes. She's a woman,
she's a very elegant woman. She'seighty eight, she probably looks like
she's fifty eight. She's very elegant. And her brother is a plastic surgeon,
so he's someone who cuts, andhe cuts on skin cancers. And

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he saw this lump on his sister'snose and it was biop seed, and
in fact it was a skin cancer. And the brother, who's a plastic
surgeon, said he you should nothave surgery because her dermatologists wanted her to
have surgery on her nose. Andshe, the patient and her brother,

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who's a prominent plastic surgeon in NewYork City, said it's crazy. I
don't want to be deformed. Idon't want part of my nose missing.
And it was right on the tipof her nose, and she had a
biopsy. She came back to us, We discussed it. We discussed it
with her, and she discussed itwith her brother. And this is the
work that we do every day,and so many people come to us with

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skin cancer. In fact, there'sthree million Americans every year with skin cancer,
and the vast majority, Sarah tosay, have surgery. And so
often the surgery is so deforming becausesurgery or moe's mohs moe's surgery is really
like excavation in the part of thebody, whether it's the nose, eyes,

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ears, cheek, hand, feet, or elsewhere on the body.
And so many people just don't wantto be deformed and sad to say.
Sad to say when so many doctorswho do Mo's most are to say,
oh, they can see the lastcancer cell. Well, doctors can't see
the last cancer cell. And it'snot true in my view. And I

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can tell you how do I knowthat? Well, we see so many
people who've had Moe's MOHS Moe's surgerywhose cancer comes back right in the same
spot. So obviously, if thesurgeon removed the cancer, the last cancer
cell, the cancer wouldn't come backin the same spot. So why does
the cancer come back in the samespot after Mo's and usually MOSE's deforming surgery?

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Why does it come back in thesame spot because cancer was left behind
because the doctor can't see the lastcell. And it'd be great if it
were true, but it's not true. And if it were true that the
doctor could see the last cell,who would want deforming surgery in their nose
or ear, or eye or mouth. Had a woman who came in yesterday
and she has a skin cancer righton her lip. Young woman from Australia.

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She came here just for evaluation andshe knows it with surgery, part
of her lip and face would bedeformed. Probably she'd have difficulties speaking and
eating, and probably everyone that looksat her. We look at this big
scar, the hole in the lip, and who would want that? And
she came here yesterday. We talkedabout all the options and she chose our

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treatment. Why because there's no cutting, no bleeding. There's a high success
rate for treatment of skin cancers,approximately ninety five percent. It's a few
treatments, it's outpatient. You comein, get a treatment and move on.
And this is the work that wedo every day at thirteen eighty for
Broadway. And in fact, wehave a new book with DVD about skin

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cancer, and we'd be happy tosend it to you, or you can
pick it up, or you cancall and make an appointment. We accept
most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.We have a huge experience over decades with
thousands of patients treated, and wehave a whole team that works together on
this project with high success. Thisis the work we do every day for

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newer, recurrent skin cancers. Thispatient had a cancer run on the tip
of the nose. She and herplastic surgeon brother both agreed there's no reason
to do surgery. It'd be deformingit wasn't wanted. She chose our treatment
and now follow up. I justsaw her recently. Her cancer is gone

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and her nose is perfect. Hercancer is gone and her nose is there,
and she looks great. And noone would know that she ever had
treatment except for she and me,and I guess her brother. This is
the work we do. It's likethe old commercial, but Clara har Dyer,
who know who knows between you andyour hairdresser? Well, for skin

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cancer, it's only the patient andus, no cutting, no bleeding,
high success, outpatient therapy. Thisis the work that we do every day
at thirteen eighty four Broadway. Weaccept most insurances. We have literature to
send you. It's always best tomeet in person. You can ask all
your questions. We can see you, and we can talk about you and

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get your records and discuss all theoptions. My name doctor Liederman. We'll
be right back. Many people withcancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery didn't
help and toxic chemo stopped working.Many come in pain. Many people with
cancer come to doctor Liederman when theircaregiver has no more care to offer.

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Doctor Liederman bringing innovative cancer care fordecades, when the next cancer drug is
not as promised. When surgery wasthe fail to pass, we may be
able to offer you new cancer treatmentoptions. We treat new and recurrent cancers,
small or large, most anywhere inthe body, even if prior chemo,
radiation or surgery didn't work. Calldoctor Liederman two and two choices two

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and two choices for a free bookletDVD thirty eighth and Broadway. Most insurances,
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and two choices two and two choicesfor innovative cancer treatment. Best is to
meet doctor Liederman in person. Calltwo and two choices two on two choices.

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Radical surgeries deform beautiful bodies. DoctorLiederman treats cancer noninvasively. Woman afraid
to cancel mystectomy. Afraid to offenddoctors more than deforming her own body.
Woman lost her face, vision,hearing and smell by doctor she felt walked
on water. Water is gone.Cancer is back. Woman lost her entire

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arm cancer relapsed with vengeance. Herefor second chance after not wanting to wait
minutes to see doctor Liederman, avisit that might have saved her arm and
life. Prostate cancer surgery. Elsewhere, deforms, leaks, impairs shortens.
Right moment to meet doctor Liederman forcancer treatment is now. Doctor Liederman might

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save your life. Doctor Leederman,most experienced body radio surgery. Accepts most
insurances, Medicare, Medicaid, thirteeneighty four Broadway at thirty eighth First in
America. Call doctor Leiderman two andtwo choices, two and two choices.
Call doctor Liederman two and two choices. Welcome back to the radio Surgery Hour.
This is Rob Redstone here with doctorGil Leiderman at the WR Studios in

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the hearts of New York City forjust a few steps from the radiosurgery in
New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadwayin thirty eighth Street. Doctor Leiderman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostatecancer not invasively. He was the first
in New York with fractionated brain radiosurgery, and he's the first in America
and in the Western Hemisphere with bodyradio surgery. You can also call doctor

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Liderman at two and two choices fora free informative booklet and DVD. Hey
doctor Liederman, we're back. We'reback, and I want to talk about
another skin cancer and a very famousperson, Jimmy Buffett. Jimmy Buffett's well
known for his music, is wellknown for his restaurants. Marguerite Taville.
Well, he had a skin cancerand he died. Sad to say of

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that skin cancer, and all thisinformations in the journals in Wall Street Journal,
New York Times, for example.He died at age seventy six,
and he died of merkel cell cancerof the skin. He had lots of
sun exposure. He loved the son. He was out in the sun in
Florida for many, many years,and very likely that sun exposure predisposed him

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to this cancer. So why dowe talk about him? Sad to say,
to honor him and to recognize himand to remember him, of course,
and also a warning sign. Ifyou see an abnormality in your skin,
you should get checked out. AndI can tell you that we see
many, many mercle cell cancers.It's said there's only twenty five hundred a

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year in America. Well, wesee many merkle cells. We see many
skin cancers, and I can tellyou that our success rate for Merkle cell
cancer is very very high. Mostskin cancers, there's about three million a
year basal cell and squamous cell.But Merkle cell at twenty five hundred is
a cancer. It's very well treatedwith focused radiation. This is the work

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we do. We have lots ofexperience, and sad to say we've lost
a great entertainer and personality and humanbeing, and sad to say, I
hope he's the last one that welose from skin cancer. If you have
blumps, bump, something new inyour skin you're not certain about, come
in, get checked out, seeyour dermatologists, get checked out, have

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a biopsy. That's always the bestway, and give us it's a call.
We have information to send you.If you wish, you can call
us a two one two choices,two and two choices and her number is
two and two choices because two andtwo means New York City and choices,
because we truly believe you have choices. There's almost always choices available for someone

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with a diagnosis of cancer or treatmentof cancer, or even how to get
diagnosed. There's different ways, differentways to do biopsies. There's easy ways
and there's hard ways, and there'sexpensive ways and there's less expensive ways.
And we always try to find theleast invasive, least costly, and best
way to diagnose a person, andthen to offer all the options. And

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this is the work that we doevery day. At thirteen eighty for Broadway,
I'll talk about a woman who comesto us from Haiti. She and
her husband are are in a church, very prominent church in Brooklyn. She
is sixty eight years old. She'sa black woman. I said it because
of the Black community. The deathis about two hundred and fifty percent higher

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other groups. And we obviously treatmen and women and children of every race
and religion and creed and color thatyou can possibly imagine. She's sixty eight
years old, she's married, shehas two children, says high blood pressure.
She's had mestectomy. In fact,she said bilateral messed actomies. And
I can tell you when I firstcame to New York, ninety seven percent

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of the women at the big hospitalswere getting mestectomy for the treatment of breast
cancer, whereas in my practice ninetypercent of the women who were keeping their
breast. So there's a huge differencein treatment. And still we see women
with messt ectomies and bilatteral messed actomiesoften women getting bilatterle messed actomies who don't

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even have a cancer in the otherbreast, And well we talk about that.
That's why so important for women withbreast cancer or a lump to give
us a call and come in andtalk about all the options before. Anyway,
she had bilateral mestectomies and she hadstandard radiation and the cancer came back.

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And also because of the mestectomy,she was left with a swollen arm,
called them fedema. She had hadchemotherapy, she had years of chemotherapy
and the cancer was growing on thechemotherapy, and she was very torn.
She's a very elegant woman and herhusband's very elegant men and their head of
a church. They have lots ofpoise and personality. And we would chew

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the data and we went through herrecords and showed her that the cancer was
growing on the chemotherapy elsewhere, Soshe was getting treated elsewhere and the cancer
was growing growing, and that's obviouslya bad sign. It's a bad sign,
and the cancer is growing on treatment. And I can tell you in

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reality, she had stage four cancer. She had lymph notes in the chest
and diseased her lung that chemo essentiallyalways fails, and most likely the chemo
doctors will never tell you that.But chemo might work for a few weeks
or months and then the cancer growsback, and that's exactly what it was
doing in her. And then shewould change chemos and it worked less well

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and less well, and she wasgetting toxicity and side effects with a neuropathy
or blood counts, and she hadthe side effect from the surgery with her
arm being swollen, and she lostboth breasts. And then she came here
and it was a moment of enlightenment. And the first she didn't exactly trust
me, so we had to proveto her, and we proved to her

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that the cancer was growing. Wegot new scans and showed her that even
on her chemotherapy the cancer was growing. That means it wasn't work. So
she was paying On average, chemotherapyis between one hundred and two hundred thousand
dollars a year, and we allpay for that. Everyone pays for that,

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and obviously, what good does itdo when she's taken the chemotherapy.
She's paying a lot of money andit's not working well. I would say
it's doing no good. In fact, it's terrible, and we talked about
all the options, and she choseto stop the chemo, even though she'd
been with her doctor for many years. The doctor had been giving her chemo,

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and the doctor got hundreds of thousandsof dollars with the hospital and it
didn't work. She came here.We found the cancer in her lung and
in her lymph node, and wetreated that. She had just a few
treatments to her lung and lymph node, and now she's cancer free in remission
and it's beautiful rather than chemo everyweek. She had a few treatments last

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year, she's been in remission.She's still in she's doing great, and
she has more time to herself,less side effects, less cost, and
more precise treatment. Chemo goes everywhere. It's like a poison that goes throughout
the body. It's like putting yourbody in a bath of a poison versus
our treatment, which is focused onthe cancer totally. The opposite. Our

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treatment is focused with about a ninetypercent success rate for the rest of the
life of the patient, versus chemo, which is poisoned throughout the body really
and the cancer always comes back.So for her, she trusted me,
and I'm grateful for that, andher husband trusted me. We treated her

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pinpoint treatment, non invasive treatment,and now she is in remission, no
evidence of cancer. And this isthe work we do, and this is
why we are here in the radio, so you can learn and you can
tell your friends and neighbors and eventhe person down the street that you might
know is suffering from cancer that thereare options. This elegant woman was getting

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chemo and the cancer was growing,and sad to say, her doctors didn't
even tell her that the cancer wasgrowing. I want to introduce myself because
there's so many people on the radioand so many people in general talking and
giving advice who are not really,in my view, fit to give advice.
So I take a couple of minutesto explain who I am and describe

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who I am. My name's doctorGil Liederman. I was born and raised
in Waterloo, Iowa. I wentto public school, university, medical school,
MD at twenty five, real doctorMD at twenty five, Not a
do not a nurse, not aHamburger helper, not a publicist, no

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a real doctor MD. Like mybrother Ted MD at twenty five and my
son, my handsome, smart,compassionate son Doctor Ario Liederman, also MD
ATWE twenty five. There's three doctorLiederman's, all real doctors. MDA twenty
five let arial Leaderman trained. He'sboard certified in cancer radiation therapy, trained

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at some of the biggest facilities acrossAmerica, and he's now working at thirteen
eighty four Broadway, and his patientsare lucky to see him. Lucky because
he's thoughtful and caring and compassionate andcomplete. He's real doctor MDA twenty five,
Board certified. Here for you.I after MDA twenty five from the

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University of Iowa, went on toChicago Michael Reese training internal medicine for three
years, board certified, went onto Harvard Medical School, trained at prestigious
Dana Farber Cancer treat treated thousands ofcancer patients on the staff at Dana Farber,
and then went on at Harvard MedicalSchool to the Joint Center for Radation

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Therapy again three years of training,thousands of patients. Board certified. The
only Harvard trained triple board certified radiationdoctor in New York and one of the
few in the world. Here foryou accepting most insurances, Medicare Medicaid here

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for you at thirteen eighty four Broadway. We have cancer questions or the possibility
of cancer. You're always welcome tocome in if you have new diagnosis or
recurrent cancer, when other treatments aren'tworking, aren't tolerated, it's always best
to meet in person. We don'tdo phone consults because there's so many mistakes.

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You can't examine the patient, wecan't see the patient. It's just
fraught with danger. We like togive the patient the best chance to have
the best advice, and that's whywe meet in person. My name is
doctor Liederman. I want to tellyou one more secret today, and that
is that we're on the RADIOWR everyday. We're live on the radio from

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now on for the next I Guesstill four o'clock, and you can call
us at one eight hundred three toone zero seven ten. If you have
cancer questions, you want to talkabout cancer, cancer questions topics we talk
about call us at one eight hundredthree two one zero seven ten. We

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won't embarrass you. You don't haveto tell anyone your name if you don't
want to one eight hundred three twoone zero seven ten. From now till
four and also be back from fiveto six and then tomorrow Sunday will be
again on WR from eleven to twelvenoon and then from one to two pm
and three to four pm. Also, you can listen to doctor Liederman every

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night at midnight on WR. Manypeople like to go to sleep with doctor
Liederman. Many people like to wakeup with doctor Liederman. Many people like
to work with doctor Liederman every nightat night. And one more thing,
You don't have to have a radioto listen to the radio anymore. You
can listen on your smartphone. Youcan listen on your computer. We have
people listening in China and India,and Africa and Bangladesh, you name it.

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People around the world listen to thisprogram all on their computer. So
even though we are on a fiftythousand watt stations broadcasts halfway across America,
you can listen anywhere in the worldto this program. And we're here every
day for you. Just tune in, we'll be right back. When doctor

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Leederman came to New York from Harvard, ninety seven percent of women in New
York were losing their breasts as breastcancer treatment, but ninety percent of doctor
Liederman's patients with breast cancer, We'rekeeping their breasts. Doctor Liederman, an
outspoken advocate of breast saving therapy,educated women about choices. To arm every
woman about breast cancer choices. Breastsaving whenever possible and desired. When every

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hospital thoughts standard radiation was okay,doctor Liederman had a better IDEA Innovative Doctor
Leederman first brought brain radio surgery toNew York and body radio surgery to America.
Meet doctor Leederman, breast conserving therapyover decades. Thirteen eighty four,
Broadway at thirty eighth, Call twoon two choices, two and two choices
about breast cancer treatment. Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. For a

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fresh second opinion, called doctor Leederman. Breast cancer treatment called two and two
choices, two and two choices.Call doctor Leederman today, two and two
choices. It's doctor Liederman with CalvinWest singing and writing about his cancer treatment.
I had cancer and my home subodathe radio surgery reader ches so good.

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Well to thank doctor and you EliotJr. Katzer, it's not counting
two three? Well up, Noread your band that is so too free

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for cancer treatment. Called doctor Leedermantwo and two choices, two and two
choices, Call doctor Liederman. Welcomeback to the Radio Surgery Hour. This
is Rob Redstone here with doctor GilLiederman at the w o R studios in
the hearts of New York City,were just a few steps from the Radio
Surgery New York Cancer Treatment Center onBroadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostatecancer non invasively. He was the

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first in New York with fractionated brainradio surgery, and he's the first in
America and in the Western Hemisphere withbody radio surgery. You can also call
doctor Leader in at two and twochoices for a free informative booklet and DVD.
Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back. We're back, and we have
a special guest. We have SeanConry on the radio. Hello, Sean

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love quite come on that. Iwas told it's double seven? Oh sure
is? Oh yeah, it's doubleseven. But everyone knows W seven is
Sean Conry? Everyone knows that.Yeah, well I know that, that's
for sure. Where's your Scottish accent? Yeah? Well I lost it.
I've been in America too long,so I know who you are because you're

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double O seven and many people,actually many many listeners KNOWBO seven, but
you're the real double seven. Right, Oh yeah, definitely. Maybe some
people don't know who the real doubleseven is. So maybe you can tell
the listeners who you are. Okay. In two thousand and five, eighteen

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years ago, doctor Leedhaman treated me, no, no, no, no
no. Your story goes back furtherthan that. You had a PSA of
three and your doctor told you werehome free. Right. Well, okay,
I was in the good habit oftaking a annual physical, and I
also was obsessed with keeping the resultsfiled away. And I noticed approximately the

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year two thousand that my PSA waspoint eight. The next year it was
a little bit higher. Up untiltwo thousand and five it went up to
three point three. And your doctortold you, hey, your everything's okay.
Your PSA is only three point three. Right. Well, well,
because you know that this number,that the number four, which was the

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then arbitrary number, arbitrary number,right right, So I said, you
know, I mean I had tomentioned it. I said, why don't
we have a little biopsy here?I have a biopsy on my prostate.
You told your doctor, Hey,my PSA is tripled, tripled. It

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went from zero point eight to threeand a quarter. It tripled even more,
quadrupled. Sure, I ended uphaving prosject cancer sad so for two
thousand and five, so almost twentyyears ago, right, yeah, And
he, you know, he suggestedsurgery, and I said no. What

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did you say? No? Imean surgery, No, surgery is the
most common treatment for prostate cancer.But I hardly believe. Well, well,
I didn't want to get operated onthe side effects for incontinent sex life
is gone, you don't really haveone anymore. And them, So what

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did you think? Why did hepropose surgery if he knew that, I
mean, he'd operated on other people, he knew that they would take away
your sex life, he knew thathe would cause leak each of the year,
and he knew he'd caused shortening ofthe penis. Why would he do
that? Because this is their theirway of curing, of putting you in

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all they think, putting you intoremission for the cancer. Just to read
I think, excuse me, excuseme, double seven. I think it's
not the way of curing. Ithink it's not the way of premission.
It's their way of treating prostate cantreating. Yeah, okay, because the
treatment. I mean, if youlook at our data versus surgical data,
our data is by far superior,more likely to be cancer free with us

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than with the surgeon. Well,yeah, I'm a testament to that because
it's been eighteen years. I mean, well eighteen years. So what happened?
So twenty years ago you had thissay, you were smart and you
still are smart, and you insistedin a biopsy when your doctor told you,
hey, everything's normal, and youwere right. You had a cancer.

(35:10):
Oh yeah, I did. Right. Then they want to have your
surgery, and you were smart again. You refused the surgery because you didn't
want to be impedent and inconinent andshortened. Right, you were double smart.
Right. Well, the shortening issomething I just found out about from
you over the last couple of years, where you have mentioned that, which

(35:34):
is like a plumber when a plumber, when a plumber cuts out a segment
of a pipe, he has tobring the ends together to make that pipe
work. And the same is truewith the urethra. The ereather is a
tube from the bladder out to therest of the world through the penis.
If they cut out the urethra,which is inside the prostate, they have
to reconnect it, which shortens thetube. It shortens the penis. Yeah,

(35:58):
yeah, like I said, youyou inform me of that over the
radio, mentioning it by the radiopeople. The radio people got very nervous
that I talk about this organ whichI think most of the world knows that
half of the world has one onhalf zoned right. So anyway, why

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do you come to me? Whydid you Why did you not just take
that surgery that he proposed? Well, because your your treatment was a very
I can only say, very easyto do. It's very easy explain it
to people who don't know what Ido. Yeah, after you go through

(36:40):
the testing, proceeded to map outactually where the cancer is. The doc
calls it staging the office there youyou get The doctor calls it the stereotactic
frame. It's a mold of theback of your body. So you lie

(37:02):
in the same position every time youget the treatment. They put you on
the table. Doctor says it's computerized. So you lie on the table,
you lie on the frame or mold, whatever you want to call it,
and device goes over your body,pinpoint radiation to the prostate. That maybe

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takes about ten minutes, and you'llfind there's no side effects, there's no
after effects, there's nothing at all. You get dressed and you go and
do whatever it is that you'll do. In my case, I was still
working at the time, so Itook a little time off about approximately an

(37:44):
hour from our meaning the traveling timeto get to doctor's office, get the
treatment, and go back to myoffice was approximately an hour's time, and
I was able to complete my dayat my work. Okay, well,
didn't even tell people how great youare. You ride a bicycle to work

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or just twenty miles or so towork and from work. You go to
work, you got your treatment,you went back to work, you worked
a full day, and then youcarried on normally. Right. Yeah.
Bicycle, Yeah, that was myway of getting to my office. As
crazy as that sounds, I usea bicycle to work every day. Well,

(38:24):
it's not crazy. It keeps yourgreat health. It keeps you great
health. I mean, how manypeople who have radical surgery could be riding
a bicycle to and from work onthe same day. No, No,
if you had radical surgery and youknow you are incapacitated for a while,
you know, because you got aheel and something I just didn't want to
deal with. You know, Ihave these a question. When they do

(38:47):
the processing operation, how do theyget to it from the front. Well,
there's different ways you can you cando it. You can do it
through the bottom or from the front, because there's different ways open surgery or
leposcopic surgery, NDO scoptic surgery.How but I want to talk to you

(39:07):
a minute. I a question.You actually know how surgery is because you
had a very good friend of yourswho at the same time you had treatment.
That man that you played bach Youwith had surgery. Right, Oh
yeah, he had robotic surgery,that's what he right? And how did
how did he fare? Robotic surgeryis supposed to be so fantastic? So

(39:30):
this is one of your good friendsand you saw him every day. Yeah,
yeah, he Ronnie uh got roboticsurgery for his bust state and for
about approximately a month after it,he had to wear a cat at him.

(39:51):
Okay, let's put it that way. And he, you know,
told me some personal stuff that hissex life wasn't the way was before the
surgery. It's yeah, And likeI I'm not really sure what happened to
him, what the other things hadhappened to him. Okay, it did

(40:15):
come back. That I know itdid come back. The cancer did come
back. He went through some radiationtreatments because there's normal prostata to remove,
so they gave him radiation treatments andslowly but surely his health declined and we

(40:36):
lost track of him. But Ilater found out that he had passed away.
I can't really say why he passedaway, but he did pass away,
and that the point at which hegot the robotic surgery. From that
point on, his health just declinedafterwards. So's their advice for someone who

(40:58):
has prostate cancer, prostate disease,anybody who has broadstay cancer. You're listening
out there, don't hesitate to goto doctor lead him and because he has
the treatments that takes care of it. He has a great staff of people
there. It's very comfortable to bethere. It's not like, you know,

(41:21):
you don't feel like there's a blackcloud over you. It's very nice,
very very comfortable. And like Isaid, the treatments are basically what
I said. You go in,you get treated. You got a little
treatment for practically ten minutes under themachine, the radiation machine, and you

(41:45):
leave and that's it. You dowhatever other you want we're doing before you
got there, you know, youjust continue your life. There's no side
effects. So right now it's almosttwenty years later, are you still riding
your bike? Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, you know, well,

(42:06):
weather permitting, lighting. The lightinggets a little strange at this time of
the year because I like to goout early in the morning, but I
can't go out early. No,But but my biking is just just as
not as much as it was twentyyears ago. But I definitely bicycle every

(42:27):
day every day that I can do. You have any limitations or changing your
life from the definitely, no,no, a little bit to The only
limitations is that I'm getting older andwell that's a good thing. Yeah,
oh yeah, definitely yeah, Andthat maybe you have a girlfriend and you
have normal life and you do otherthings you want to do, right Oh
yeah, yeah, that's yes.My got my crazy grandchildren that I sometimes

(42:54):
I watch them sometimes they come hereand uh yeah, I lead a normal
but you know, people that Ididn't would not think know you're on the
radio no, you're on the radio. But they asked me. You know
I what I mentioned? Yeah,you know I was treated by doctor lead

(43:15):
Him for busse cancer. Oh he'son the radio, isn't he. I
said, yeah, yeah, ifyou listen to him, If you listen
to the radio, if he evermentions double O seven, that's me.
I tell him. Well, it'snice that you called today. We have
to go for to break for aminute. But you have any other advice

(43:35):
for listeners today? Yeah, I'mnot really good. Don't hesitate if you
have any kind of cancer. It'sI mean, I just happen to have
prosty cancer. If you have anytype of cancer, go to doctor lead
Him. I have one more questionfor you, do you you know you've
known me for almost twenty years.Has anything ever happened between us in the

(44:00):
office that gives you any qualms orhesitations about your care or interaction? Oh
no, not at all. No, You're you're a you're like a friend
to me, you know, Imean, you're my doctor, but you're
also Will Will We have a littlefriendly, little relationship going there, which
is nice, which is good.That's that's how I will prefer things.

(44:22):
Actually, all right, Well,God bless you, and God bless your
family, and I hope you livedat one hundred and twenty years old in
good great me too. Oh,God bless you. I'll be right back.
Numbers mean much to me because ofprostate cancer. I'm Johnny Bragg's The
number two from my stepfather who diedof prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered

(44:43):
so much after prostate cancer surgery.The number fifteen fifteen years since doctor Leederman's
successful treatment of my prostate cancer.The number zero, which is my PSA
zero after doctor Leaderiman's successful prostate cancertreatment. What every man wants? The
numbers one, two, three,four important for every man with prostate cancer.
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It's doctor Liederman speaking with Lauren aboutlung cancer. You were seen by a
pulmonary doctor who was insistent that theyopen up your chest. Yes, absolutely,
and they told you to the lungsurgeon and they were insistent on cutting
on you right absolutely, and wouldnot accept me hesitation if I didn't do

(45:52):
that. You're a nurse, youworked at some of the biggest hospitals and
you just didn't want your lung onjust opened up and you're lung thrown into
the garbage can, right the bucket. Why Because at the super duper prooper
I saw what happened, and whatdid you see? With doctor Liederman,
the team and treatment. It's perfect. You have the treatment and that cancer's

(46:15):
gone away, right it has.What would you tell someone who's got cancer,
nake your first up doctor Liederman.For more information called doctor Leederman two
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over decades. Welcome back to theRadio Surgery Hour. This is Rob Redstone

(46:38):
here with doctor Gil Leiderman at thewr Studios in the hearts of New York
City were just a few steps fromthe radio surgery in New York Cancer Treatment
Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert,
treats prostate cancer not invasively. Hewas the first in New York with
fractionated brain radio surgery, and he'sthe first in America and in the Western

(46:58):
Hemisphere with radiosurgery. You can alsocall doctor Liederman at two and two choices
for a free informative booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.
We are back, and I thankseven for confiding and informing all of
you about his experience and what's happenedto him over twenty years. And he's
now cancer free, and we're gratefulfor his trust and really for his kindness

(47:22):
and calling. I want to talkabout a woman who's eighty five years old.
She's from Jamaica. She's a blackwoman. And I say that because
it's very rare to have skin cancerin black people. It's not unheard of.
Bob Marley, for example, hadskin cancer to the melanoma of his
toe that went to his brain andhe died of that. So that's one

(47:47):
example of a melanoma. But thiswoman had a basal cell cancer right on
the bridge of her nose. Shehas a history of high blood pressure and
diabetes and thyroid disease. She hadskin cancer of her arm also, that
was true with surgery. What wasshe do up to skin cancer on her
nose and she just did not wantto have a part of her nose removed.

(48:10):
It was a base of cell cancer, It was fairly prominent, and
it was in a delicate position.It was the top part of the nose
on the left side, also nearthe tear duct. So surgery would have
been deforming and debilitating, because ifa person loses her tear duct, then
there's no place for the tears togo easily readily as God designed our bodies,

(48:32):
and so it would have been deformingand difficult. And said, she
chose treatment here. She came hereand investigated treatment. She heard so much
about skin cancer treatment here and wetreat many many people, thousands in fact,
over decades that she came and wetalked about it, and she trusted
us and was treated just in afew treatments for her basal cell cancer on

(48:57):
the bridge near the bridge of hernose. Her and now she is cancer
free. She came for follow up. She's doing great. And this is
the work that we do every day. At thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in
thirty eighth Street in the heart ofNew York City. We're talking about a
woman who's forty six, so avery young woman. She's forty six,

(49:19):
she works in the pharmacy. She'smarried, she has two children. She
came with her husband. She hadbronchitis and then asked for a CT scan
because she had bronchitis so much,and the child a nodule in along and
then the scan was repeated it hadgrown. And then she was taken to
surgery and she had a PET scana big one of the super duper big
hospitals. She had surgery. Shehad surgery one of the big hospitals in

(49:44):
the New York area, and shehad a squamous cancer the lung. She
had multiple lymphanodes that were positive forcancer. So they saw the nodule and
then they waited. They waited towork her up, and they waited to
treat her. And by the timethe cancer traveled to the lymph nodes,
so she had an advanced cancer.And well, she came to us when

(50:07):
the cancer recurred after surgery. Sowhat's so amazing is so many people think,
oh, I'm going to have surgery, I'm going to cut it out,
and I'll be done with my problem. Well, no, this woman
had surgery and the cancer came backright at the same spot where the cancer
was at a time of surgery.So it makes you think almost that the

(50:28):
surgeon can spread the cancer cells whenthey're cutting on it. It came back
right at the same spot. Andshe came to us years ago, and
we treated her years ago, andshe's now in remission. We were able
to treat the cancer when surgery failedfor her squamous carcinoma of the lung.

(50:50):
She'd had surgery at one of thebig hospitals in New York. The doctors
had waited to check her out ratherthan to operate immediately. She was don't
have cancer, she had surgery,and now she's in remission. When surgery
failed. She came here for afresh second opinion, And many people come
for a fresh second opinion for newlydiagnosed cancer, or like her, when

(51:15):
the other treatment standard radiation, surgeryor chemo, doesn't work or isn't wanted
or isn't tolerated. In her case, it just didn't work, and she
came to us to try to giveher a second chance when surgery failed.
And speaking about surgery failed, Iwant to talk about him mate, seventy

(51:35):
two years old. He's single,and he has a cancer of the urrotor.
The urder is a tube from thekidney down to the bladder. So
somehow the kidney makes the urine.The urine has to flow down the urder
to the bladder. Well, hedeveloped a cancer of the urtor and he
went to one of the big hospitalsin New York area. He had had

(51:57):
chemotherapy and surgery. The surgery leftpositive margins, meaning the cancer was left
behind, so the chemo didn't work. The surgery didn't work. The cancer
was left behind right where it wasbefore, in a way like that woman
who's cancer in the lung came backin the same spot. So sometimes it's

(52:20):
hard to explain to patients how surgeryfails. So often we just talked about
a case where the surgery failed tothe lung. Now here's a surgery failing
in the urder. The cancer cameright back and it was invading into the
sois muscle. So the soest muscleis a muscle in the back of our
abdomen helps us move our leg Sothis cancer was aggressive right in the same

(52:45):
area the cancer was left behind.He came to us for treatment and he
was recently staged up and that areathat we treated is still cancer free.
And this is the work that wedo every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway
Broadway in thirty eighth Street in theheart of New York City. A man

(53:05):
who comes to us with two squamouscancers on the hand on the right hand.
He came to us years ago,seventy eight years old, born in
New York City. He's widowed,he has two children, and he did
not want to have a big partof his hand removed, and for that
reason he came to us for skincancer squamous carcnoma, two separate sites in
the hand. Both treated, bothin remission, doing well, no cutting,

(53:30):
no bleeding. And we'll talk abouta man who sixty six years old
came to us many years ago witha Gleason nine cancer, a very aggressive
cancer, and he chose our treatmentbecause he knows with surgery the failure rate
is high with surgery and the complicationis high. He wanted to keep his
sexual life in urinary life, andnow years later his PSA zero. He's

(53:52):
in remission. This is the workthat we do every day at thirteen eighty
four Broadway. We have lots ofinformation to send you. It's best to
call us two and two choices.My name is doctor Liederman. God bless
you and thank you. Hope totalk to you soon. Thanks for tuning

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