3PM Dr. Lederman discusses various treatments for cancer

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The following is a paid podcast.iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an
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effective, non invasive, well tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman,
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primary and metastatic large or small cancersfrom head to toe. Cancer treatment with
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No cutting, no bleeding, nohospitals. Day made me very happy.
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Welcome everybody. It's the Radio SurgeryShow with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,
New York's only Harvard trained triple boardcertified radiation oncologist who brings you the

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latest cancer treatment news, interviewing worldrenowned cancer experts, delving to special cases,
and of course answering your questions.I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the
WR Studios in the heart of NewYork City, and now please welcome doctor
Leaderman. This is doctor Liederman,and thank you Rob, and thank you

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No and thank you for tuning intoday and every day every day we're on
the radio, and every day welearn together. We learn new things.
Every day. Every show is different, and the reason we're here is to
educate so that you if God forbidyou or your loved ones or family or
friends, or even that person downthe street streak gets sick, I needs

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care and needs advice, You'll thinkback, Hey, this show has changed
your life. And I can tellyou it's changed so many lives. There's
so many people I can think ofwho were listening to the show. They
called me up, whether it wasa tumor on their ear, a tumor
on their brain, skin cancers.We see so many people with skin cancers

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who surgeons. Dermatologists are surgeons dormmeans in Latin skin and just one who
studies the skin, but actually adermatologist is a surgeon. So many people
with skin cancers basal cell and squaymiss cells on the face and eyes and
ears and mouth and hands and feetand elsewhere. And I could tell you

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the three million skin cancers, andthat's right, there's three million skin cancers
a year. I would say thatprobably ninety nine percent of them are referred
for surgery, usually mo's mohs mo's, which is kind of deforming or excavation
of surgery. It removes, Theytry to remove all the cancer. They

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say they can get the last cancersell. But doctors cannot see the last
cancer sell. So when they saythat, I don't believe it's true.
I don't believe they should be tellingthat their patients. And I also believe
one more thing that I believe thatdoctors should be telling patients all the options.
It's how we're trained, how we'retaught, at least how I was

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taught years ago, is that we'resupposed to be educated, and we're supposed
to pass on the education to ourpatients and their loved ones. And that's
what we do here at thirteen eightyfour Broadway. Even our package if your
call office now or later or never. Even our package will include all the
options. We talk about chemo andsurgery, different forms of radiation, and

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no treatment, hospice, and alsowe talk about various forms of radiation,
including what we think is the bestfor most people, stereotactic radiosurgery. We're
the first in the Western hemisphere withstereotactic body radiosurgery. We know doctors almost
always say you go to the doctorwith the most experienced and we know who
the doctor is with the most experienceis the person who started radio surgery decades

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ago. When all the other placeswe're doing standard radiation with weeks and weeks
of treatment and standard radiation radiating healthytissues. One doctor stood up and say,
hey, there's a better way tohit the cancer, not hit healthy
organs. And because we can hitthe cancer, we can give higher doses,
and higher doses are more successful.They're biologically different. Standard radiation and

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radiosurgery are so different. And oneof the most common questions I get is,
doctor Leaderman, what is radio surgeryor radio surgery is not surgery.
There's no cutting, there's no bleeding, so it's a misnomer. It's wrongly
named. It's kind of to saythe radiation beam acts like a knife to
eliminate the cancer, but it's nota knife, and it's really a form

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of treatment that's precise, non invasive. Nothing touches the patient's body, patient
lays in a particular position. We'rethe only ones, the best of my
knowledge, to use the stereotactic frame, a frame to hold the body in
position, and we're able to holdthe body and hit the cancer non invasively
in minutes. Patients come in,get their treatment, turn around, go

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home, go to lunch, goacross the street to Macy's or Bryant Park
or Penn Station or Port Authority wherever. Many people work and walk in the
areas. Many people take the trainor subway or bus in the area.
Many people come from around the world. We have patients right now from all
over the world, from Canada andFlorida and Europe and Africa, all over

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the world here for treatment. Isaw even today there's two hundred thousand people
a day from Japan who check outour website. Can you imagine that two
hundred thousand people a day from Japan, just as an example of one country
who check our website and by theway, our website, if you want

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to check it out, is rsNY DOTRG Robert Samnewyork dot org. Brilliant
stands for Radiosurgerynewyork dot org. Soif you wonder why two hundred thousand people
from Japan and millions from America checkout our website, well you can too.

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But if you have a cancer question, it's always best to meet in
person. So I want to talkabout patients. Every day I see patients
and every day take notes, andevery day we come here and talk about
our patients. That's what we're goingto do today, of course, like
every day, and you're always welcome. If you have a particular questions,

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it's always best to meet in person. So there's no zoom, zoom and
gloom. With zoom and gloom andtelephone calls, she can't examine the patient
communications totally different. Had a patientwho came to me. One of the
biggest performers in the New York Philharmonic. He saw as cardiologists by zoom,
and then he came to me thenext day. His cardiologist said he was

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in perfect health, and I foundthat he had a major he was in
heart failure and of course, thecardiologists on Zoom and Gloom and Doom couldn't
examine the patient, and the patientdidn't even know it was in heart failure.
Telephone calls, the patient can onlytalk about what he or she has,
and so there's no physical examine.Doctors and patients have known for hundreds

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of years the best way to meet, the most serious way to meet,
is in person, and that's whywe do that every day. So I
want to talk about a gentleman,and I'm talking about him because well,
his sister just came to see me. This is a man, the businessman
in one of the five Birls,and he's about fifty years old and he's

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a hot shot businessman and I thinkhe's doing okay. And he's in the
construction industry and he's in the housingindustry, and he's successful in his field.
And then he started to lose weightand had abdomino pain and he got
a scan into one of the smallerhospitals. He got a biopsy and he

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was found to have a colangio carcinoma. Calanchio carcinoma is the cancer of the
bile ducks. So if you thinkabout it, the liver makes these juices,
and these juices go to the gallbladder, and then from the gall bladder
they go through ducks through passageways.It's like whatever air conditioner goes through ducks.
Well, the juices in the bodyhave to travel somehow, and they

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go through ducks into the intestines wherethey pass through juices onto intestines so you
can digest. So it's mandatory todigest, and without those juices, we
can't digest and we'd probably starve todeath. So this man developed a cancer
of the bile ducts, and it'scalled a coolangiocarcinoma Klannger. Carcinomas are cancers

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that are difficult sometimes to detect,and so there's nothing you can feel.
Really, it's not like a breastcancer. You can feel a lump or
throat cancer where you have a painin your throat, or skin cancer.
We have a mold or a kidneycancer. We might have blood in the
urine no so klanda. Carcinomas detectedby a scan. Usually sometimes there's blood

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testers like pancer's. Cancers are oftendetected by scanning. And sometimes people say,
well, doctor leader them, howcan have a cancer if I don't
have any symptoms. Well, anyone of us can have a cancer.
You can have a cancer size ofa pee anywhere in your body. How
would you know about that? Howwould you possibly know about that? So
many of us, probably some ofus listening today, have cancers that are

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undetected because you just can't detect itunless you come to a doctor. And
many people come to us for cancercheckups, cancer screenings, to check the
breasts and the lung and the prostateand intestines and the whole body skin and
elsewhere. So this man had abdominalpain and weight loss, and he had
a scan, he had a biopshe had a collegic carcenoma. And then

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he thought he was really super smart, and he went to one of the
biggest hospitals in New York City andthey did a scan and they found he
had stage four cancer. So stagefour means the cancer has traveled, it's
gotten in the bloodstream, and it'straveled. In a hit case, they
had traveled to the lung and lymphanodesand other sites. And they started them
on chemo therapy. They told himit's okay, the chemo's going everywhere in

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the body. Your cancer's going elsewherein the body, and the chemo's going
everywhere in your body. And I'msure you've all heard about that. You
probably all had friends or loved onesor there's Oh, don't worry, the
chemo's going over the body. Well, the problem with that is, it's
true, the chemo's going most everywherein the body. But they don't tell
you what chemo. Doctors don't tellyou. I have a chemo. I

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spent years at Harvard studying, andyears at Harvard treating patients, and years
at Harvard and the staff. Whatthey don't tell you is that the chemo
doesn't work very well. So sureit's going over the body. They put
it in the veins and it goesover the body. But the problem is
doesn't have the power, of capacityor ability to cure the cancer, so

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it's going all over the body.And his patient thought he was very smart
because he went to this fancy hospitalwith oodles of dollars and oodles of bills,
and chemo is usually about twenty tento twenty thousand dollars a month,
so you can see how bills hadup to one hundred two hundred thousand dollars
a year at these super duper places, and they're not shy about sending bills

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and other things. But what theycan't do is to give a treatment that
is durable. And he heard thisradio show, and he came and he
had one mass that was huge.One mass was almost the size of a
melon, big melon, in hisabdomen, in his liver actually, And
I saw him and I explained tohim and his loved ones that the chemo

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just does not have the strength orthe power or the capacity to be successful.
And I mean successful. I don'tmean for a day or a week
or a month. I mean tocure the cancer, to make the treated
cancer go away. Now chemo isgoing throughout his body and the lung and

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the lymphodes and the liver. Itwas going everywhere, Yeah it was.
But the problem is that chemo doesnot have the capacity for this kind of
cancer, and in fact, formost cancers, to cure the patient.
So the doctor never really tells thepatient, in my view, the truth.
You can say, hey, I'llgive you the treatment, and it
might slow down the cancer for aweek or a month, but then the

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cancer will grow right back. Hedoesn't, she doesn't say that. And
if they said that to the patient, probably the whole chemo industry would collapse.
It it's a multi billion dollar industry. If you read the newspaper,
you'll see about company number X buyingcompany number Z for I don't know what,
twenty trillion dollars because they expect tobe reimbursed so much. And sometimes

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I have patients who come to metheir pills are thirty or forty thousand dollars
a month, and they say,oh, don't have insurance. But that's
not exactly the case. So oftenthere's a co pay, and then all
of us pay when the insurance ratesgo up. All of us pay.
You and I and your neighbor andthe person down the street. We all
pay for treatment that really doesn't buyvery much for the patient. It's not

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like when you have gonorrhea and youget penicillin and the gonerhea usually goes away
or most commonly goes away. That'sa successful treatment. And a lot of
people are expecting well that the chemotherapywill work like for penicillin and gonerehea.
It's not the same. And sadto say that patients are really not informed.

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They're not really being told the limitationsof the treatment. So for this
man, this fifty year old businessmanwith a big massive kolandri carcinoma, had
a super duper famous hospital getting chemoand he comes here and I explained to
him, while that chemo is justnot going to give him what he wants,
which is a durable response to treatment. And he said, well,

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what would you recommend? I said, well, if you want, if
you want to have a proof,we can treat the worst tumor in your
body. We can treat that bigtumor, the twelve centimeter mass in your
liver, and then you'll see whichtreatment works better, our treatment or your
million dollar treatment at super duper General. And he agreed, and he started

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a treatment and he had our treatmentto the biggest mass. And this was
about eight months ago, and well, his doctor getting him the chemo was
so angry at doctor Liederman, soangry that we would say that his chemo
wasn't as good as he was ledto believe. And so the patient wanted

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to believe somebody. He had tobelieve somebody, had to believe a fairy
tale, or he had to believea doctor who was telling him the straight
dope. And I believe the straightdope, because I like to be able
to sit there five years and tenyears and whatever later and say, yeah,
whatever I told you, or yourloved one, whatever I told you,
that's the way it was. AndI can tell you every day I
have patients who come and say,doctor Liederman, of all the doctors I

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saw, you're the one who toldme the straight story. So now the
patient comes back and he had mytreatment about eight months ago, and he
had the chemo, the twenty thousanddollars a month chemo, and what's happened.
Well, the cancer that we treated, the biggest mass, the most

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difficult mass, is dead in thewater. He had a pet scan shows
it's dead in the water. Itdoesn't even pick up any pet scan activity.
Petscan is a radioactive sugar. Itgoes throughout the body and usually cancer
likes to eat, to eat asteak or a potato or sugar, but
sugar's easy to put a radiation labelon it and measure the activity of the

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cancer. And so he had apet scan and the pet scan showed the
tumor. The cancer we treated,the clanchy carcinoma twelve centimeters successfully treated,
and he's had no more treatment tothat. In eight months he had the
treatment. He came in, Wemade a stereotactic frame, We computerized the
body. We said it had visiblebeams attacked the cancer. He had about

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about seven eight treatments. Treatments sakeabout twenty minutes. He gets up and
goes home or goes to work,He does his business, takes care of
his loved ones. Well with us, that was it. That was it.
Months and months ago. With chemo, he got chemo and chemo,
and chemo and chemo, and nowwhat's the verdict months later, eight months
later, Well, I saw thepet scan, and the pet scan showed

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the cancer we treated is dead inthe water. Just like your communicator,
doctor Liederman, communicated to this patientand all the other cancers pretty much all
of them have all grown taken off. The chemo number one and chemo number
two and chemo number three have beenuseless, useless, And now the family

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screaming, oh, doctor Liederman,please tell super duper General your secrets on
how you treated the patient so theycan do what you do. It doesn't
work that way. Look, I'vebeen treating patients with radio surgery since nineteen
eighty six years and years and decades, I've treated about forty thousand patients,

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and every patient really is different.There's no one formula fits everybody. And
this is the work we do.And this is kind of proof to you,
and proof to the family, andproof to this man, and proof
to our staff that the treatment thatwe perform most commonly works, most commonly
kills the cancer where we aim thebeam. And it's also likely to talk

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about most every day that the chemotherapy, sad to say, just does not
live up to its hype, doesnot live up to its price, does
not live up to its toxicity.Lots of people who get chemotherapy because remember
the chemotherapy is like a poison goingthrough the body, so it damages the
bone marrow. Many people lose theirhair, many people who have damage to

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the nerves. Many people know what'scalled neuropathy in the hands and feet,
where their hands and feet are numband painful. But one patient recently had
so much chemo, had so muchneuropathy they couldn't walk because the chemotherapy had
damaged the nerves, had harmed themso much they could not any longer walk.
So this man who had a racebetween doctor Liederman's radiosurgery to the biggest,

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most difficult mass. Well, thatcancer is dead in the water.
All the other cancer got chemotherapy tentwenty thousand dollars a month, useless progressive
cancer didn't work, and now they'rebegging for doctor Liederman's secret formula. Well,
it's always best to return here forevaluation and treatment and consideration. If

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you're getting chemo and it's just notworking, or you have toxicity and you
don't like that toxicity, or it'snot working or not tolerated, or you
want to learn about other options thatare probably being hidden from you, it's
probably time to give doctor lead himin a call at two choices. You
can check our website, which isr SNY dot org. RSNY dot org.

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Our phone number is two one twochoices. Two and two means New
York City and choices. Just likethis man had choices, and he chose
our achievement for the biggest cancer mass, which was successful still to this day.
And that's the reason so many peoplecome to us from around the world.
That's the reason why two hundred thousandpeople in Japan check out our website

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every day, and millions here inAmerica mind. Doctor Liederman will be right
back. Many people with cancer cometo doctor Liederman when surgery didn't help and
toxic chemo stopped working. Many comein pain. Many people with cancer come
to doctor Liederman when their caregiver hasno more care to offer. Doctor Liederman
bringing innovative cancer care for decades.When the next cancer drug is not as

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promised, when surgery was to failto pass, we may be able to
offer you new cancer treatment options.We treat new and recurrent cancers, small
or large, most anywhere in thebody, even if prior chemo, radiation
or surgery didn't work. Call doctorLiederman two and two choices two and two
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to cancel mystectomy, afraid to offenddoctors more than deforming her own body.
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walked on water. Water is gone, cancer is back. Woman lost her
entire arm cancer relapsed with vengeance.Here for second chance after not wanting to
wait minutes to see doctor Liederman,a visit that might have saved her arm

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and life. Prostate cancer surgery elsewheredeforms, leaks, impairs, shortens.
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Call doctor Leederman two and two choices. Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour.
This is Rob Redstone here with doctorGil Liederman at the WR Studios in
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the leading cancer expert, treats prostatecancer not invasively. He was the
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Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back. We are back, and that we
have some secret things to tell youin just a few minutes. I want

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to talk about a man who cameto me fifty sixty six years old,
born in Jamaica, and I wouldtell you in the Caribbean there's lots of
cancer. This man came as asixty six year old, as a black
man. And we know blacks inAmerica one in six black men will get
prostate cancer. One in twenty threewill die of cancer the prostate And why

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do we talk about it? Whateducated? Of course, we take care
of men and women and children ofevery race and religion and creed and color.
But were raising a flyg Hey,you may want to come in and
get a check up with the possibilityof cancer, or if you have cancer,
you might want to learn about treatmentoptions that most likely will give you
a better chance to be successfully treated. This man came to me sixty six

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years old, born in Jamaica.He has four children. He worked in
the hospital and they had an elevatedPSA. He had a biopsy showed a
Gleason nine cancer. So Gleason understoodthat there were different kinds of cancer.
And every man that comes here withprostate cancer, we talk about it and
show him and his loved ones thedifference, and he knows that most likely

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with surgery, the cancer would comeback, and with surgery most likely would
damage the nerves, and damaging thenerves most likely would make him impotent.
Men who have surgery in the prostateninety eight percent have damage to the nerves,
damaged their erections. Eighty percent havetrouble holding the urine and leak urine.
So this man had a Gleason ninecancer, a risky cancer. He's

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born in Jamaica, risky group,and he had scans of his body and
there was no evidence of spread.So he had a biopsy elsewhere. The
doctor told him, well, youbetter have surgery. Well, he heard
about surgery, was smart and hedecided to come here for a second opinion.
And this is the work that wedo every day. He's one hundred

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and sixty pounds, he's five footeight. He has had no radiation exposure.
He has no family history. Hewas born in Jamaica. He works
one of the big hospitals, andyet he came here for treatment, not
the big hospital where he works.And I examined him. He had a
te C gleason nine, prostate cancerPSA eight, and he came years ago,

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years ago, and we offered himtreatment. We talked about all the
options, and he chose our treatmentbecause he liked the idea of no hospitals
and no radical surgery and data.He learned about all the options here which
no other doctor showed him. Theoptions. We talked about proton beam and
surgery and robotic surgery and open surgeryand radiation in various forms of radiation.

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And he chose our treatment with hishigh risk cancer gleason nine, five years
ago and now his PSA is zeroand he is very happy to be in
remission, no evidence of cancer,doing great with a good quality of life.
And this is the work that wedo every day. At thirteen eighty

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four Broadway. We'll talk about awoman who comes fifty one years old,
born in New York City. She'sperimenopazo, single, without children. She
went to the doctor for a viralsyndrome. She had a chest X ray.
She just found up a nodule.She had a cat scan, a
pet scan, shod a biops used, told she had cancer. She was
sent to a surgeon. Sergeant saidthey have to cut out part of her

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lung. She went to one ofthe biggest hospitals in New York and the
doctor did not tell her about allthe options. The doctor told her,
oh, you have to have yourlung cut out. She quit smoking two
days before she saw me and thedoctor. The surgeons, other doctors did
not tell her any options, andshe didn't like that. She didn't like

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that the doctors were not being honestwith her about options. Her sister died
of cancer and I examined her.This is a woman. If you saw
her, doctor saw, you wouldnot know she had cancer. Lungs were
clear, limpnals were clear, normalheart sounds. After was solved, she
had a nodule in the lung.Biopsy proven and she chose our treatment.

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And she chose it because she feltthat it was the best for her.
She felt there was excellent results whichwe reviewed. She did not like the
idea of going into the hospital havingpart of her lung removed, her lung
deflated, being the ICU, havinga chest tube, having pain and then
hoping not to get an infection ortheir complication in the hospital with us totally

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opposite, no cutting, no bleeding, We make a stereotytic frame of the
body, we computerize the body,and then we send in beams in just
a few treatments, and our successrate is very high. And that's what
she chose five years ago. Sofive years ago we treated her for lung
cancer, no cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals, stay, no anesthesia,

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and today she is cancer free,doing great. She comes and sees
me about twice a year with cancertests, physical exam scans. This is
the work that we do every dayat thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty
eighth Street in the heart of NewYork City. Now we're talking about a
woman who is sixty years old.She's a Hispanic woman born in the Dominican

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Republic, and she came to witha big lump inter armpit. It was
biopsied elsewhere. She went to threeof the biggest, most famous hospitals in
New York City for her lymphoma stageone lymphoma, and some of the doctors
told her to get chemo. Sometold her not to get chemo, and
well, she didn'ts liked it.No doctor told her all the options.

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Again, the same story. Shehad a cancer shad a lymphoma in the
armpit, stage one. No onetalked to her about the options. No
one told her about all the options. Why is that? Why were they
only talking about their treatment? Andwhy is it so often the case doctors
only talk about their own treatment.Here, you'll come in, you'll see

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signs and artwork about all the options. We'll give you a package. You
will even send you a package.You can call us even now at two
and two choices, two and twochoices and you'll get a package. Now
about all the options. Well,this woman did not want to have chemo.
She didn't want to have no therapy. She don't want to have no
treatment either. She wanted the bestchance to be cancer free, and no

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one talked to her about that untilshe came here met doctor Liederman. And
this is the work we do everyday. We stayed dure up, we
got scans or the pathology, Weexamined the patient, got blood tests,
found she had a stage one lymphoma, and we talked about an option that
most likely she'd be successfully treated with, and that's what she chose. And

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she chose that ten years ago.Ten years ago, she was treated for
this lymphoma. I saw her recently. She's doing great. There's no other
so cancer. She never had anyother treatment, no surgery, no chemo,
NONO therapy, no cutting, nobleeding, no hospitals. Only a
few treatments here with doctor Liederman,treatments at no other doctor. The three

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biggest hospitals in New York City didnot offer her. Why did they hide
that from her? Why? Why? Why do you think that is?
Well? I want to tell yousecret, and that is, if you
have an answer, you can callme right now where our lines are open.
It's a live program. You cancall us at one eight hundred three
two one zero seven ten. Oneeight hundred three two one zero seven ten.

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You'll call up the radio station rightnow. Wor Noah will pick up
the call one eight hundred three twoone zero seven ten and put your call
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So there's lots of times to listento Doctor Liederman. If you want

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I want to introduce myself because somany people are on the radio,
and so many people aren't really doctors, or so many people don't tell you
who they really are. So hereI am in a nutshell, Doctor Liederman.

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I was born and raised in Waterloo, Iowa. Went to public school,
university, medical school, Real doctorMD MD at twenty five, real
medical doctor like my brother Ted,doctor Ted Liederman MD at twenty five two,
Doctor Liderman's MD at twenty five andthen the latest doctor Ario Leederman,

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excellent doctor MD at twenty five trained. I went to medical schools the most
prestigious places. Here is a boardcertified radiation on collegist here working at thirteen
eighty four Broadway beloved by his patients, doctors, families, others, giving

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warm, compassionate, smart care tohis patients. So there's three Doctor Liederman's
here for you. Doctor excuse me, Doctor Ariel Liederman. Just give us
a call. Board certified at thirteeneighty four Broadway, and I'll tell you
a little bit more about myself.After being MD at twenty five, went

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to University of Chicago Michael Reese inChicago, trained in internal medicine, medical
medicine. Field treated thousands of patientsBoard certified internal medicine in Chicago, then
went to Boston and Harvard Medical Schoolat the prestigious Dana Farber Cancer Institute.
Trained in medical and college, hetreated thousands of patients on the staff at

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Harvard Medical School and then onward tothe Joint Center for Ancient Therapy at Harvard
Medical School three more years. Boardcertified, the only Harvard trained triple Board
certified radiation doctor in New York.Here for you. We accept most insurances,
Medicare, Medicaid. We're super convenientlylocated at thirteen to eighty four Broadway

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Broadway in thirty eighth Street in theheart of New York City, easy to
get to, most saboys trains.Buses come within steps to our office,
the one, two, three,four, five, six, ACE and
QRBDFM, seven, S and Q. We're close to Penn Station where we
get Amtrak New Jersey Transit Path trains. We're close to Port Authority where all

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the buses, thousands of buses comeevery day. And of course Grand Central
just steps away from our office.So we made our office in the heart
of New York City for your convenience. My name is doctor Liederman. We're
right back. When doctor Leederman cameto New York from Harvard, ninety seven
percent of women in New York werelosing their breasts as breast cancer treatment.

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But ninety percent of doctor Liederman's patientswith breast cancer we're keeping their breasts.
Doctor Liederman, and outspoken at ofbreast saving therapy, educated women about choices,
to arm every woman about breast cancerchoices, breast saving whenever possible and
desired. When every hospital thought standardradiation was okay, doctor Leederman had a

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body radio surgery to America. Meetdoctor Leederman. Breast conserving therapy over decades.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighthCall two on two choices, two
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For a fresh second opinion, calleddoctor Leederman. Breast cancer treatment called
two and two choices, two andtwo choices. Call doctor Leederman today,
two and two choices. It's doctorLiederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
his cancer treatment. I had cancerand my hooda at the Radio Surgery Choices.

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I'm so glad. You wanna thankdot venom phone and you eliot to
Katzer. It's not counting. Ohtwo three, Well up, No pame

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is read your brand. That isso too. Free cancer treatment called doctor
Leederman. Two and two choices,two and two choices, Call doctor Liederman.
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob Redstone here with
doctor Gil Liederman at the w oR Studios in the hearts of New York
City. For just a few stepsfrom the Radio Surgery New York Cancer Treatment

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Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert,
treats prostate cancer not inviasibly. Hewas the first in New York with
fractionated brain radio surgery, and he'sthe first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. Youcan also call doctor Liederman at two and
two Choices for a free informative bookletand DVD. Hey doctor Liederman, we're

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back, Thank you so much.That was Calvin singing about his prostate cancer.
And he's incredible artist. He performsin Europe and Asia, performs over
New York City. If you wantto see him and listen to him recording,
you can well listen on our DVDor Prostate DVD features him and he

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tells his whole case about having prostatecancer and now in remission. He talks
about that and you can watch it. Just ask for our prostate DVD.
We'll send it to you a nocharge. Or you can come in,
or you can check him out inManhattan. He performs at various places.
Then he's fantastic. He wrote thatsong, he performed the song, and

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he played guitar for that song.So he is fantastic doing well years later
after treatment here at thirteen eighty fourBroadway, and so happy that he sings
about it. He's so happy.I'm so happy. We're also happy to
listen to him. And now wehave Howard on the phone. How are

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you, Howard? I'm doing fair. I had prostate surgery and radiation,
okay, and my pay kept onrising, and I called your office to
make it. Excuse me before youtalking about call my office. How many
years ago were you diagnosed with prostatecancer? Twenty eight years ago? Twenty

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eight years ago. What was yourPSA and Gleason score twenty eight years ago?
I don't know the Gleason at thattime, it was around four.
And after the surgery, did youlose your erections and control the urine?
No? No, you had greaterections week. I had weeks. I
had weeks because the doctor made mecategorize myself one hundred and eighty times.

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Okay, So you had leak eachand the erections are fantastic. No,
not anymore. Okay. So thedirections are gone and the urinary control is
gone. Is that right? Oh? Control is and yes it's a problem,
but it's not gone completely. Nothing. Well, but it's as good
as it was before before before yoursurgery. No, okay, so it's

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a problem. You can say thatbecause when men don't tell the actual facts,
it leads other men to get surgery. Then other men end up impotent,
and other men end up leaking.So you had the surgery and then
your PSA started rising? Is thatwhat happened after the surgery and the radiation?
Well, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. The point of
surgery is to cure you. Sowhy did you get radiation after the surgery?

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An oncologist suggested it. Why.I don't know why. He just
know why. Most likely it wasbecause your PSA wasn't zero after surgery.
Your PSA should be zero. Okay, Oh it wasn't zero, so it
wasn't radiation. And now why areyou calling today? My psa since the

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radiation has gone from zero one tofour point nine? So the cancer's back,
So what's your question now? Anddoubled it doubled in the last three
months. I understand that the cancer'sback. So what's your question now?
I was, I went to thedoctor and he wants me to have a

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PET scan and a MRI and eventuallyhe wants me to go on hormone surgery.
Hormones this is the treatment. ThenI then I asked him about if
I can get radio your radio.Excuse me? One minute, just one

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minute. So you got you hadthe surgery, it failed, You had
the standard radiation, it failed.Now the cancer's back and he wants to
do these tests. Have you donethose tests yet? Now I'm doing them
on the fifteenth of the month.Okay, So if you want to come
and see us, and you're justcome in with those tests, that's all
that happens. Bringing one question.I have one question to ask you.

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Okay. He told me that Ican't have radiation, your radiation. Excuse
me, excuse me. He doesn'teven know where the cancer is. It
could be it could be in thebones, it could be in the lymph
nodes, it could be anywhere inyour body. He doesn't know that,
so he's giving you an advice basedon nothing. Right, Well, his

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advice to me was excuse me,excoose me. He's telling you you can't
have doctor Liederman's treatment, but hedoesn't even know where the cancer is.
Correct, No one does. Iexcuse me. You're making a exsumption,
and you're making a false exsumption.You think that there's only one place that
the cancer could be in your body, and that's the area where the prostate
was, and you have your wholebody. Prostate cancer loves to go to

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the bones and the lymph nodes.You need to get those tests and bring
the tests in and we'll talk aboutit. Okay, if I bring them
in, can I if it's inthe prostate area, can I have your
service? Where it depends where theprostate area is. There's lots of area
there. There's a prostated south area, there's lymphodes next to it area.
There's the rest of your body area. So you need to come in in

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the prostate area. I just toldyou. There's lots of different areas in
the prostate area. There's the immediatearea, there's a bladder, neck,
there's lymph nodes. There's different areas. And your doctor's telling you the answer
without even knowing the answer, whichis wrong. In medicine, you have
to have you have to have factsright. We're scientists and we should be

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advising the patient correctly. So Iagree, you should get the PET scan
and the MRI. You should getthat and then we'll sit and talk about
it. That's all I know.I don't know any more else about you.
You want to come in You're welcometo come in, but I don't
do advice based on presumptions on thephone. This is bad, bad medicine.
We take your life seriously us.I've told many people about you.

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Well, don't tell anyone about me. Worry about yourself. If you wish,
come in with the scans and we'lltalk about it. And then there's
other scans that could be done aswell, before the pet scan. PET
scans are very expensive test and lotsof radiation exposure to you. There's other
tests that are less expensive and probablyequally good. So there's other things that
could be done besides those particular tests. So again, if you want to

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come in, please do so,and we'd be honored to see you.
Thank you, God bless you.I'm sorry to all the complications. I'm
sorry I had the surgery which didn'twork and damaged your quality of life.
So God bless you and we'll seeyou soon. Okay, thank you,
God bless you. My name isdoctor Liederman. We'll be right back.
Numbers mean much to me because ofprostate cancer. I'm Johnny Bragg's the number

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two for my stepfather who died ofprostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so
much after prostate cancer surgery. Thenumber fifteen fifteen years since doctor Liederman's successful
treatment of my prostate cancer. Thenumber zero, which is my PSA zero
after doctor Liederman's successful prostate cancer treatment. What every man wants? The numbers

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one, two, three, fourimportant for every man with prostate cancer.
One getting the most successful treatment.Two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three keeping
sexual functions, four maintaining urinary control. Call my Doctorlederman two and two choices,
two and two choices to consider hisprostate cancer treatment for you. Most

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insurances Medicare and Medicaid accepted. Thirteeneighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Call two
on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor Liederman two one two choices.
I'm glad I did. You'll benumber one with doctor Leiderman. It's
doctor Liederman speaking with Laura about lungcancer. You were seen by a pulmonary
doctor who was insistent that they openup your chest. Yes, absolutely,

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and they sent you to the lungsurgeon and they were insistent on cutting on
you right absolutely, and would notaccept me as a patient if I didn't
do that. You're a nurse,you worked at some of the biggest hospitals,
and you just didn't want your lungon chest opened up and your lung
thrown into the garbage can right thebucket. Why because at the super duper

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prooper I saw what happened, Andwhat did you see with doctor Liederman,
the team and the treatment. It'sperfect. You have the treatment and that
cancer's gone away, right, ithas. What would you tell someone who's
got cancer naked? First up doctorLiederman for more information called doctor Liederman two
and two choices thirteen eighty four broadWe had thirty eighth We accept most insurances,

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Medicare, Medicaid, called two andtwo choices for more information. Thousands
treated over decades. Welcome back tothe Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman atthe WR studios in the hearts of New
York City, were just a fewsteps from the Radio Surgery New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighthStreet. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer

(46:13):
expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was the first in New York
with fractionated brain radio surgery, andhe's the first in America and in the
Western hemisphere with body radio surgery.You can also call doctor Liderman at two
and two choices for a free informativebooklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Leiderman,
we're back. We are back.I want to talk about a sixty
seven year old woman. She wasborn in New York State, and she's

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married, and well, she camehere. She came there with her wife,
so it's a modern era. Shehad a history of breast cancer.
Sad to say, she had bilateralmestectomies elsewhere, and we know at some
of the biggest hospitals, ninety sevenpercent of the women were getting mestectomies for
breast cancer. Were here, doctorLiederman, ninety percent of the women were

(46:57):
keeping their breast And that, sadnesssay, was years ago. I wish
that we had a chance to meetyears ago when she had the breast cancer.
And now she's coming kind of fedup with surgery, fed up with
mystectomies, with a squamish carcinoma onher right cheek, and now she does
not want to have surgery, shedoes not want to be deformed again.

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And well, she heard about herwork for treatment of skin cancers of squamosel
and basis ol and caratoy can Thomasand well, she did not go back
to that place that did BI lotof mystectomies on her. No, she
came here and examined her chad abouta centimeter mass and irregular red lesion in
front of the ear on the rightside, and no lymphanodes were involved,

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and her lungs were clear, andher heart was fine, and the rest
of her body was a okay.And she chose our treatment and we treated
her non invasively with no cutting andno bleeding for her skin cancer right on
her face. She did not wantto be deformed again. She had enough
with BI lot of mistectomy. Shedid not want to be deformed again.
We treated her. She's cancer free, she's doing great, she's happy,

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healthy, And this is the workwe do every day. At thirteen eighty
four Broadway, I was talking aboutManna fifty three years old, born in
Saint Vincent's Island in the Caribbean,with a lymphoma. He had a marginal
zone lymphoma. He had chemo andemmunotherapy for years and some of the biggest
hospitals in New York City. Hewas diagnosed in nineteen eighty three and he

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had years and years of chemotherapy andwell it it wasn't working. He came
to us with a mass and thechemo wasn't working. He had years and
years. Like we talked about earlier, chemo is one hundred two hundred thousand
dollars a year, and we allpay for that. The patient pays,
his family pays, I pay,you pay. So many people say,

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oh, I'm not paying, Well, we're all paying. It doesn't come
from nowhere. We're all paying.And it didn't work, and it was
toxic, and no one talked tohim about all the options. It's like
the woman we had a few minutesago had cancer in the armpit. No
one talked to her about all theoptions. This man went to several of
the biggest hospitals in New York.They kept on giving chemo. It was
great for them, one hundred onehundred thousand dollars a year. It was

(49:12):
great for them, but it waslousy for the patient. The cancer kept
on growing. He had a limpfoma the neck and he came to me
ten years ago. We treated himten years ago and he's been cancer free
ever since. It had years ofchemo elsewhere. It just didn't work,
and they kept on giving him moreand more chemo, and they planned to
give him even more and more chemountil he came here ten years ago.

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He's been cancer free with no furthertreatment. And this is the work that
we do every day here at thirteeneighty four Broadway, work except most insurances,
Medicare, Medicaid. This man wasso happy. His mother last year
had breast cancer and his mother didnot want to go to the biggest hospitals

(49:57):
in New York because she knew whathappened to her son. And she came
here and she also is cancer free, doing great. This is the work
that we do every day at thirteeneighty four Broadway. Another man with a
skin cancer. This man's a bookie. He used to run Bookie and Betts
for I guess you know who woulddo that. Well. He's eighty three

(50:20):
years old, he was single.He had high blood pressure. He was
diagnosed with a huge, thick canceron his left forehead. It was thick
and deforming and certains wanted to removehis scalp and he came running here and
he was treated here a year agoand also is cancer free from his huge
thick skin cancer, scramoussel of thescalp. He just did not want deforming

(50:45):
surgery, did not want to bethe hospital, did not want to have
his scalp removed. He wanted tohave our treatment. We treated him and
now he is cancer free, doinggreat, And this is the work that
we do every day I'm talking about. It's fifty three years old, born
in New York City. He Singo. He has two children. Came out

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of a family friend. He hadcolon cancer. He had abdomino pain and
bleeding. He was diagnosed, hehad surgery and well, the cancer had
traveled. He traveled to lymph Notes. He had chemo and chemo and chemo
and it wasn't working. And chemousually doesn't work for colon cancer very well,
and it didn't work for him.And he came to us with cancer
that traveled to the lymph notes andelsewhere, and he wanted, no,

(51:29):
can you treat me, doctor Liederman, And the answer was yes, And
we treated him years ago and he'sactually cancer free stage four. So the
doctor said, oh, you havestage four cancer. You need chemo for
the rest of your life. That'swhat he told him, and they started
giving it to him and he outof the toxicity and it wasn't working.

(51:50):
Then he came to doctor Liederman thirtyeighty four Broadway Radio start in New York
when he learned about again all theoptions that were being hidden from him by
his chemo and other doctors. Wetalked about all the options and he decided
he wanted to give it a chance, and he gave it a chance years
ago for stage for cancer. Andhe's still in remission years later. And

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this is the work we do everyday at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in
thirty eighth Street in the heart ofNew York City. About a woman,
beautiful woman takes I guess you'd callher high maintenance woman, right breast cancer.
She has postman apostles. She separatedwithout children. She always comes with
a different boyfriend. And years agoshe had a large mass, in fact

(52:37):
multiple masses in her right breast,invasive cancer, stage T three invasive cancer,
and her doctors told her she hadto have bilateral mestectomies. They're going
to remove the sick breast and they'regoing to remove the other breast. That's
all they offered to her. Shehas a grandmother of breast cancer and she

(52:58):
had planned mestectomies and reconstruction. Ican tell you that reconstruction doesn't reconstruct the
breast like God gave anybody. Itcan make a lump or something like that,
but it doesn't recreate. Reconstruction makesit sound like you're going to have
your breast back. You're not gonnahave your breast back. It will feel
different, it will look different,and it acts different. It's not the

(53:22):
same. And when they remove thenipple, it takes away most of the
sensation. This woman heard about herwork years ago and came for primary treatment
here with radiosurgery for the breast,and we treated her years ago and she's
been cancer free. I see her. I see her regularly. She comes
every visit. She has a differentboyfriend. It's a very elegant woman.

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She's working, active, fully,intact, and this is the work we
do. We do scans of her, we do physical exams, you do
blood tests. She's been cancer free. In fact, we have a new
breast cancer booklet and the breast CancerDVD and be honored to add it to
you if you wish. We havetopics brain tumors, body cancers, lung

(54:04):
cancers, pancreas, kidney, liver, coal and prostate bladder, primary cancers,
metastatic cancers, booklets and DVDs.We'll mail it to you at no
charge, or better yet, comeinto our office and pick up a package
for yourself and your loved ones.We're on the radio every day. We
accept most insurances. This is doctorLiederman called two and two choices. That's

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two and two two four six fortytwo thirty seven. Thanks for tuning in
to the Radio Surgery Hour with doctorGil Riderman and myself. If you have
questions before next week's show or wanta free informative booklet and DVD, just
contact doctor Liderman at two on twochoices. That's two one two two four
six four two three seven. That'stwo one two two four six four two

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three seven. For cancer treatment,most prefer effective, non invasive, well
tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctorLiederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.

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Doctor Liederman is first in America,first in New York. First for
you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Lidermanhits your cancer with no cutting, no
bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades ofexperience with primary and metastatic large or small
cancers from head to toe cancer treatmentwith possibly a second chance for you.
Meet doctor Leiderman to hit the cancer. He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple

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meet doctor Liderman for a fresh secondopinion. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted.
Free booklet DVD two super Convenient Broadwayin thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet
doctor Liederman to hit your cancer.Call two one two choices, two on

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two choices. Did you know thatyou've got choices? That there can be
a bad way? Did you knowthat you've got choices? Conductor, they
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