Guests Roy & Leah Neuberger, Authors of From Central Park to Sinai

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it's been such a long time agowhen we last had Roy Newburger on
the year and he's written the fascinatingbook then from Central Park to Sinai,
and now we're here together with RoyNewburger, his wife Leia Linda the previous
known Linda, and their new bookis about them. They didn't write this
book, but somebody else wrote thebook, Robby Knachman Seltzers both from Sinai

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to Jerusalem, our Jewish Joren.It continues. They were both born with
silver spoons in their mouths, andthey, in fact, in the case
of Roy, had no connection toJudaism. But now he's a full fledged
proud Jew and both he and hiswife La lead a wonderful Jewish lifestyle,
inspiring other people. And we're hereto tell this story. So welcome back.
Good to have you join us againon air. We're so happy to

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be here. As a pleasure,my pleasure. So I know you'd like
to be called Roy us because inthe book that you've preferred to as Ysroll,
but then the headline it's Roy andLeya. You're Linda Leya. So
I noticed that the economy should Iread anything into it? Yeah, you
should. So the reason I useRoy when I in public, when I

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speak, when I write. Withthe first book was aimed at Balichva,
the whole world that I came from. In that world, if someone sees
a book by your strol a namewhich I didn't have till I was thirty
years old, I didn't have areading name till I was thirty years old.
But if someone sees the name yousaw, they're going to feel that's

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weird. And so I wanted itto be a book that everybody could read
from that world that I came from. Once I started with the name Roy,
I kept the name Roy for allthe books and all the speaking,
and that's why I continue to useRoy to this day. And also,
your father was well known in theWall Street correct Roy same day, but

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we have different middle initials. He'sRoy R, he was Roy Rothschild.
I'm Roy Slant and that in itself, the middle names tell you a lot.
Maybe Mane. I just add somethingon this subject that we had in
mind when with the first book.I'm the editor of everything that my husband
writes. We had in mind reachingout to people Jewish people who were not

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observant that they should be come closer. But it turned out that the firm
world loved the book and it helpsthem to appreciate what they have and to
be inspired to reach out to otherswho were like us. When you speak
and I hear brebertson, young Riceand somehow you speak, that's a compliment.
That's a young rise of blessed memory. Totally not conscious. But people

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tell me that I hear I hearher. When when are you speaking?
We'll talk about the Yester Hume rightsconnection, but let me begin first with
you, Roy, because you grewup, you had the Silver School,
and your father was successful in WallStreet. You grew up from what I
understand knowing Zilch about Judie is am? I correct, Zilch. That's mine
is Zilch. What did you know? Do you know what Conica was?

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Sa, I'll tell you I knewnothing. We didn't we had December twenty
fifth, with my favorite day ofthe year. We had we didn't know
what Versus Kipper celebrated Christmas, butnot Russia. Shawna. You said it.
That is absolutely correct. But itwas amazing because even in this world

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where I was living what's called theAmerican dream, where I really had everything
in terms of materialism. I neverfrom the moment I was conscious, I
mean even a little kid. Inever had a moment I knew something was
wrong, something was missing, Andthere was a thirty one year search until
we finally found something called Tarrah.Never heard the word till then now,

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growing up with anything Jewish, noteven Hamatash and Latquez, gafiltha, fish,
bagels, not even bagels, noteven bagels. I talk about it.
You know, did you know youwere Jewish? You know? You
run from it, you try tohide it. Everybody knows the Nano Jews
know you're Jewish. You know you'reJewish, but you try not to know

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about it. And I we inour hover that we grew up in,
we tried not to realize we're Jewish. We ran away from it. But
you're roy S standing for Salant.Did you know Salant growing up that that
was your middle initial? That whatit stood for. My grandfather, Aaron
B. Salant told me when Iwas a little boy, we come from

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a famous rabbi named Israel Salanter.I didn't know what it meant. I
didn't care what it meant, andI'm not sure he cared what it meant.
But the amazing thing is that mymother, who was a Salant,
had this salanter in the Shamma.She didn't know what it meant, But
what it meant was that she neverhad satisfaction in this affluent world of the

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Upper East Side of Manhattan. AndI inherited that, and I inherited this
spiritual restlessness. And so then thename Salant was working underground and we just
couldn't We couldn't live having that name, but we didn't know what it meant.

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Now did your mother grow up andalso devoided Judean Did your father grew
up of divoided Judaism as well?Correct? Both born in the US,
both born devoid of Judaism. Yeah, Now, you grew up in the
affluence. You went to fields inthe private school. You had it all

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silver spoon my wife at Fieldston.By the way, I'm sorry you met
your wind her background because she spokeat least had some Yiddish in her background
book. But I just want toget to her in just a moment.
So you grew up that anybody elsewas a Jewish, had a Jewish contri
were invited to a bar mitzvah's,did you have any association anything that resembled

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something smacking a Judaism. Really no, I always it's a little bit of
a joke. It's a big it'sa lot. It is a joke.
But my cub scout pack, whenI was like ten years old, was
in the basement of Temple Emmanuel orReform, the Reform, you know cathedral

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in New York. But okay,I went to one bar Mitzvah. But
it was such a joke that itwas like it was like making fun of
everything Jewish. And so for allpractical purpose, for all practical purposes,
I had zero connection with the Jewishworld. Wow, let me turn to

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you, Leah. You grew upspeaking Yiddish, right, not speaking Yidish.
But my Yidish were spoken there,not in my home, but my
mother's parents. They were from Poland, and they came to America very early,
like a nineteen hundred, and theyspoke Yiddish in the home. My

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mother understood you, she knew howto speak it, but she didn't speak
it to us. And I hadmore of a sense of Jewishness. My
mother told me that had we beenin Europe, I was born and I'll
not tell my agents. Okay,I was born in nineteen forty four.
She told me that we would havebeen in the Holocaust, and we had.
There were family members on my grandparents'side that were killed by Hitler,

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so she told me that, andmy grandfather made a sayer every year,
and I had to stay home frompublic school in Russias Shanna keep her out
of respect. I had a littleconnection, and when I went to my
friend's we went to some bar mitzvahsand I heard shamayah. So well,
I felt something, but I neverwe didn't observe it home at all,

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that kosher and hanka and nothing really. I stayed home from school and Rusasoniam
gild rather of respect because there waspublic school where I went that day,
but we didn't go too shure.And I also felt that material things I
had, I had what I neededmaterially, But you know, I realized

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very young, it's not enough tolive for it. You get one thing,
you're not satisfied. You want thenext thing, you want, the
next thing, you never ever satisfied. So I also felt something was missing.
There has to be more to life. There has to be a real
meaning and purpose higher than ourselves.Not just live for ourselves. And when
we met very young in high schoolfifteen and sixteen years old, ninth and

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tenth grade, my husband made anymore aware and we have to find it
together, and together we searched forthe real thing. Now you both met
the Filson Right, which is aprivate school. But you both weren't religious.
You got married not religious? Correct? And what were you doing right?
Professional? You didn't go into WallStreet at that point in tom You
follow very successful in Wall Street,but you did. I believe you lacked

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journalism at least part of the time. In the beginning, I wanted to
be a college professor, an Englishlanguage and literature. I study literature because
you know, I threw what I'mgonna find meaning there. But but after
a while that didn't work, andand and and then we returned to the
US were we studied in England fora year in graduate school at Oxford University.

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Then we came back to America.And that's when I got into the
newspaper business I had. I wasbecame the publisher of a weekly newspaper in
the Hudson Valley near in Newburg WestPoint Cornwall on Hudson, and I owned
a weekly newspaper. And I dideverything there, reporter, photographer, layout,

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average, you name it, everythingand so. But you you didn't
stick with it for a very longterm, right, you tried other things
I did and I didn't. SoI'll tell you an amazing story. I
wanted to make this a great newspaper. So what did I know about newspapers?
So there was there's an organization calledthe National Newspaper Association all the weekly

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newspapers in America. The president ofthat organization was a guy named Walter Grundtfeld.
He was the nephew of the famousDiane Grundfeld. I'd based in in
London. Walter was a newspaper publisherin Binghamton, New York, and I
became his friend. He was thehead of this organization, and I told

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I told him one day, Walter, we want to come and learn from
you. Could we spend the daywith you? So we went up to
the two of us and spent theday with Walter. At the end of
the day we were about were readyto go home. We went to Walter's
house coffee six thirty a night,and he wanted to watch the news.
He turned on the TV and Waltergrunt Fe, this iconic figure, the

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head of the national's favorite association,is standing in front of the TV and
he's crying. He's crying, what'sgoing on. It was October nineteen seventy
three, the Young Kipper War andWalter Grunfeld saying, I can't believe it.
A week ago Israel was lost.Now they general Sharon's courses to West

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Canal. He's got the Egyptian armysurrounded. They're marching on Damascus. And
I'm like, uh oh, yeah, right, I know about that,
all right. I read in thepaper there's a war in the Middle East
somewhere, and Walter Grunfeld looks atme and he starts screaming, what kind

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of enjewel are you? What areyou made of stone? Don't you have
a heart? And those words penetratedme to this day. They still penetrate.
So that's when everything changed. Afew months later we met Robertson sd
young Rice, and then after wemoved to her husband's community in Woodmere,

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New York, WNG Island. That'swhen I finally got out of the newspaper
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said with his wife Leah Linda,she used to be known. And the
first time we had him on theair. The book was called from Central

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today. That's six three one seveneight nine five seven seven seven. You're
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since nineteen eighty one. And nowhere's your host our guests. You just
heard speak witham Passion, Roy Newburger. Roy s newburger S dance was salant

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and he said with his well wifeLeiah Linda, she used to be known.
And the first time we had himon the air, the book was
called From Central Park to Sinai,which they wrote themselves. Now that the
subject of book called from Sinai toJerusalem to Rochelaiam, our Jewish journey continues.
It's written by by Knachmann Seltzer.Now tell me what are the differences
between the first book and this book? Very interesting. The first book,

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first three was written by me,and it's obviously it covers our entire spiritual
journey up to the year two thousand. That's what it was published twenty three
years ago. But a lot happenedsince then. We started speaking all over
the world when that book came out, we started speaking first in the United

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States. Since then, we've traveledto fifteen countries, spoken hundred thousands of
times, and we've had so manyadventures all over the world of every kind
you can imagine. So what RabbiCelsia wanted to do. First of all,
this book is written from his pointof view, and he talks about

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the beginning up to the point thatI wrote the first book. But this
tells all the intervening years, hundredsand hundreds of beautiful adventures with Jews all
around the world, and it showsthe incredible the fire musu all today people

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who want to return to a Jewishway of life all over the world.
I mean, you go to Russia, you can't speak the language, you
think, how could this work?I mean, I mean, I mean
Kiam, I mean I mean,I mean Tblisi, Georgia, I mean
Berlin. How they I can't evenspeak their language, and so we have
a translator. It's unbelievable words fromthe heart and to the heart, to

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the hearts life. So let meturn to you, Leah. So your
husband gets turned on. The guysays, what kind of a Jew are
you? So? What how aboutyou? Were you connected it? All
that your husband's experience affect you hadyou end up with robson, Esta Young
Rice and Heinani, which was abig movement to bring people back to Judaism.

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I was present with at that thathistoric moment when the well their Gunsfeld
was standing at my husband and bothof us felt those words going through our
what kind of two are you?What kind of joy you? And we
had studied at that point every religionum that my husband didn't go, I

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think you weren't wasn't he a Buddhi? Weren't you a Buddhist? And a
way everything you never put it thisway. We were in college together at
the University of Michigan, and that'sthe point where my husband didn't mention,
but he felt since we were havingissues in our marriage because we didn't know,
we didn't have told it to tellus how to have a good marriage.
And he felt very hopeless and hewoke up in the middle of the

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night, God, if he's there, help me. Now. This is
amazing because we had never met anyonewho believed in God, any Jewish people
who believed in God. And forhim to say this was major, and
all of a sudden we felt hope. And we started to study every religion
except Judaism. Because our friends wereMitzvah's. It was just a party with

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a good, delicious roast beef andyou gave a nice check and they never
went back to synagogue again. Andwe said, duty in this materialism,
we want something real, something spiritual, a greater meaning and purpose in life.
So we were major students and westudied all these religions. We studied
Buddhism and hindu Hinduism and Christianity.And you want to convert to Christianity?

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I read in the book. Didn'tyou at one point decide you want to
become Christians? We never converted,but you want to no, I mean,
we didn't get to the point ofour parting, but we felt very
you know, like like maybe thisreally is the truth. But then we
felt that we want to be normalpeople, live in a community, raise
our children with a great spiritual life. But we wanted the highest and the

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best, and the highest and thebest. In these other ways of life,
you sit on a mountaintop and contemplate, you're an aesthetic. You remove
yourself from the world, and weknew that wasn't right. Bursham are Yidish
and a sham has told us thisis not it, this is not it.
And then when we went through everythingelse and our daughter and mostly non
Jewish friends and telling her about theirreligion, we decided, and those words,
what kind of Jew are you?We decided better look into our own

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and that's when we went to hearvets and young Grays. But zeb,
I just want to tell you,I'm a little nuts and my wife is
so normal closer I have the normal. She keeps you that way. But
I really believe this stuff was trueuntil it all turned out to be nothing
empty, there's nothing there. Itdidn't work. We never went to the

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services or anything like that. Wewere just studied. I went to a
few, right, I think Ithink in your book, you're right,
it's written at you almost became Christians. Something held your back. It was
true. I've been to yeah,okay, but yeah. I wrote a
book called Why the Jews Are Wrongand the Christians Are Right? But baj

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Hashem I couldn't get it published andit's all total gibberish, garnished. So
okay, So now you're looking,you're you're shaking up. You know,
said what kind of a Jew areyou? So what happened did you meet?
Reverts nest to young Rice, andlet's pick up from there. Not
so simple, there was. Iwas a newspaper publisher. So we heard

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these words from Walter Grunfeld, whatkind of a Jew are you? And
they're going through my head and ouroldest daughter we're about to send to Catholic
school in the first grade where welived upstate New York. May I explain
that though, because it was thebest school in the area and many Jews
went there. It wasn't that wewere converting. It was just that that
was the best school, and Jewshave to go to the best school.

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Right. So an advertiser in mypaper a beautiful Jew named Bob Ushman.
He owned a hardware store in Cornwall, New York, and I'm talking to
him one day and these words,what kind of a jewey? You're going
through my head? I said tolisten. You know, Bob, I'm
thirty one years old. I wasnever in a synagogue in my life,
Like what do they do there?So it calls me back that night.

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Okay, here's the problem. Wehave this evangelist, woman evangelist coming next
week to speak at our synagogue.You want to come, Okay, we'll
come. And that is how wemet. Rebuts and Ester Young Rice.
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and they rescheduled it. And thetiming was unbelievable because that was the moment
when I realized everything else I've studiedis nothing. There's nothing there. I
was like at the bottom Memtesh ShariTuma and there was I discussed there's nothing
in life, And all of asudden, at that moment, rebuts and

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Ester Young Rice comes and we hearher speak. What was it? So
what about the speech that said,okay, you you said your throwed every
religion that you can find, Sowhat was it that night that you heard
that was different? That resonated withyou and said, this is it.
I'm home. I just first wantedto say that. Of course, was

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not at a van. She wastrying to reach out and teach get people
to convert to Judaism. That's whenevangelist does to get people. She was
preaching. She was getting people turnedonto Judy. That's what nanny is about
Jewish people. And yeah, anyway, so she said that we're descended from
King's prophets, matriarchs, patriarchs.We taught the world there's a God.

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We gave morality to the world.We have our tower to study and live
by day and night. We hadnever heard such words, and we were
very, very moved. And myhusband could tell you more about your souls
were on fire, right, That'sI think was somebody's book, was they
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They were start off life not knowingabout Judaism and he both born with silver

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(35:43):
about them as quote from Sinai toYerusha laam Our Jewish Journey continues, written
by by Nachman Seltzer from Arts World. Okay, so you meet repertson Young
Rise, you get turned on.I'm home. So what happens? So
you did you all of a suddenbecome religious? Was it a journey?
Did you struggle? What happens next? I tell you it was incredible.

(36:06):
So we were so awe struck whenwe heard her speak that we couldn't I
don't know. I couldn't have nothingto say the next morning. This is
how I worked. Next morning,it just all gelled, I said.
I wrote her a letter, robertsonyoung Whites. If this is true what
you said last night, then there'sgot to be another step. What do
we do? She wrote? Backto I was amazed you wrote back to

(36:29):
me, and she said, yes, you have to study, Tori,
you have to come to my classes. Now. Her classes were at chart
se in Brooklyn and the Syrian JewishOcean Parkway. Having you are, it
was a two hour drive for us. There were two problems. Number one,
there was an oil and Bardo afterthis after the young kid, what

(36:50):
year are we talking about? Thisis nineteen and where were you living at
the time in Cornwall upstairs Cornwell?Okay, yeah, So we had two
hour drive and they with the energycrisis good they were ractioning gas. And
number two, I had to putthe newspaper out every Tuesday night to take
it to the printer on Wednesday.And I stayed up. How could we

(37:13):
go Tuesday night with your class inBrooklyn? And then we looked at each
other and we said, look,you know what, this is life and
death. We've got to go andhear what this lady has to say.
So we turned our whole schedule around. We drove to Brooklyn with our meager
supply of gas every Tuesday night andthat became the center of our week.

(37:35):
Every week hearing tah unbelievable and thena few months later, the IDF called
rebertson Young Rice, Raberts and Rabbinnets, you have to come to Israel
to speak to the soldiers. Andfirst, you know, her friends told
her they're gonna throw tomatoes and whatare you going? Anyway? If kept
calling calling, okay, I'm going. So she took a small group to

(37:57):
Israel. We never wanted to goto Israel before because we thought, you
know, the Jews stole it fromthe Arabs. But we're hearing all this,
but believe you believe that, right, you believe that the Jews.
But then we learned we heard Raschi. Okay, whatever, I'm not going
to go to the first Raschi andpublish. We don't have time. But
but we found out we studied Torah, God gave the land to the Jewish

(38:20):
people. All of a sudden,we're Jews. We want to go.
So we got on the LA planewith her, with Revers and young Rice
in June of May, June whateverwas nineteen seventy four. Midnight, we
get on the plane and we're goingto Israel. We go to sleep.
At four in the morning, wehear these noises and these guys are all

(38:43):
getting up and they're putting boxes ontheir heads. We never saw thalas and
filling until we were on el allthe midnight flight. Wow, a whole
new world. We got to Israeland we had our first schabis at Kibbutzla,
the in the Galile And as mywife says, all the time,

(39:07):
we were in the peace movement whenwe were young, Liberal college. So
who are you when you say thepeace woman? Who are you demonstrating for
or against the Vietnam Vietnam War?Okay, that was a big thing then.
Okay, right, so we hadschabis. We never had peace in

(39:27):
our lives until we had schabis atKibbutzla. Our second schabis was in your
Shaliam. We had two weeks livinglike Jews. It was mind boggling.
We got back to Kennedy Airport,we saw Rebertson, young Rice and her
father. We waved goodbye. Wedrove back to Cornwall on Hudson, and

(39:51):
my wife and I looked at eachother and our immediate reaction was, we
are out of here. That's it. You can't anymore. So what happened
with you? We have a littletime love. So now how did your
families react? Your father, yourparents were anti didn't well, I'm going
to guess anti religion. They didn'thave any religion. I'm sure it didn't
go over well when you said I'mbecoming an Orthodox Jew. Our parents they

(40:15):
were hoping it was temporary insanity andthey thought we went off the deep end.
They didn't make Derek right. Yeah, yeah, we did go off.
They thought it was archaic, outdated. They didn't understand. But gradually
they saw the beautiful family life.We worked very hard keep it up,
aimed to honor our parents, thatour children were so respectable and nice,

(40:38):
and they loved and endured our childrenand grandchildren. So gradually they saw that
it's good. I just want topoint out one thing that that made us
so inspired by the rabbits and nowrisis classes. In those first days when
we went that we were finally findingout how to have a good marriage,

(40:59):
how to MEAs our children, howto understand what's going on in the world.
So we went every week, andthen, as my husband said,
we into Israel. So then hebecame religious. Now you'd try different professions,
Roy, you were Yeshiva principal rightfor a while, Yeah, general
studies principle. More than you knowthey colored this because but I don't have

(41:20):
the best. So he gave upbeing the newspaperywhere a principle. And then
what happened? And I went intoWall Street and I found out I'm not
my father. I share many characteristicsof my father, many of my mother,
but I never had my father's geniusin Wall Street. So when I
realized it's not my future. Myfuture is not in the world of business,

(41:44):
I was crestwolled. Rabbi Seltzer describedit so beautifully in the new book.
And again I was at a lowpoint, like the bottom. What
am I gonna do? I wasn'ta kid anymore. And then I thought
to myself, Wow, made youcan write that book you always wanted to
write. And that's when I startedwriting from Central Park to Sinai and we

(42:07):
had a new career. Our careerstarted I was fifty two years old,
our career of writing and our careerof speaking. And it was so beautiful.
And zeb I want to add also, our parents got so on board
with us. As the years agowent by, we went out of our
way to be close to them.We became closer and closer. My mother

(42:30):
at the age of seventy two whateversomething like that. The first time she
ever went to Israel, the firsttime she ever had a pasa. When
our daughter was in seminary, wentto Israel for pasa. My mother came
with us and we toured around Israel, and she had the first pasok of
her life and she loved it,and she loved her grandchildren and my wife's
mother. The last years of herlife, she spent every Chabbist with us,

(42:53):
and she became a new person.It's unbelievable. And I don't know
if I do. I have timeto tell you a quick story about my
mother, my parents, because ofus, they had Jewish burial. It's
a whole story. But my mother'sfirst yard side. I went to the
cemetery. The yard side was justa few weeks ago, just after Vos

(43:16):
and I went to the cemetery,but just me, no one else in
the family. When I was leavingthe cemetery, I said to Hashem,
Hashem, I really think mother isin alam amist the world of truth with
you. And if she is,I think I had something to do with
it. So I'm just wondering,can I get like a little report what's

(43:37):
going on there? I mean,you know, so I went home.
I didn't say a word to anybody. The next morning, our daughter Miriam,
who was then unmarried, young girltwenty one, she woke up the
next morning, Aba, I hada dream last night. Grandma came to
me in my dream and she wasso happy, she was shining. I

(43:59):
got report from Shamayam and my motherdoing read up there being the zaka of
or email his son brings married tothe parents. Laire, you're going to
say something. I want to saythat it's never too late for a person
to make an important change in life. We were thirty and thirty one years

(44:20):
old, married eleven years, withtwo children when we totally changed our lives.
And another story I just want tomention is that my father in law,
my husband's father, had always said, I don't believe in any religion.
Religion is the cause of all theproblems in the world. And then
when he read my husband's third booktwenty twenty vision, he was only one

(44:43):
hundred and four years old and heread it so he loved it so much.
Even every time my husband would tryto visit him and his father would
be deep in the book and he'dlook up at him, stopped reading it.
Four times he read it, andhe loved it so much and was
so inspired that he put on tofill in for the first time in his
life a week before his hundred andfifth birthday. Wow. Amazing, and

(45:08):
it's never too late. There's important, bubb with your sibil you have siblings
are the family members that they getimpacted by your change of life impacted,
but they did not become observed that. I want to tell you we are
very close. They have tremendous respectfor us and my brother. As the

(45:28):
most incredible letter in the new bookdescribing his reaction when we announced to the
family that we'll be changing our lifestylein nineteen seventy four, you know,
Roy went off the deep end again. He thought I really lost it and
that I was pulling the family intosome crazy cult. And at the end

(45:50):
of his letter, it's really touchingand beautiful he said, I am very
happy to admit that I was wronged. We have very one the full relationships
with our siblings, but they havetheir lifestyle and we have every color covote
to you. By the way,your book twenty twenty vision, is it
possible to be made into a movie. You have thought about that? Zeb

(46:14):
that is a story. You couldwrite a book about that question. Have
you have you to explore that?For seven years of the whole chapter of
the new book about it. Forseven years, I tried to make it
into a movie, and it neverhappens. I'll put you in touch with
Nancy Spielberg that she's making Jewish movies, and I tried to get in touch
with her. We priced it.We had three screenplays hundred million dollars.

(46:36):
Because it's such an epic adventure.Well, if it got made, who
which movie actor would you like toportray you? And you lay, I
don't know about movie actors, butyou know what I mean. It's an
epic. I thought it would bethe and I still think it would be
the greatest story of the world comingin technicolor. L Do you have any
of who you like to play youin the movie if it ever gets to

(46:58):
come to how it a into movies? We tried to make a movie that
would be according to standards that weneeded to uphold, the Tower standards and
nobody, by the way there shouldbe the Christians have Christian movies based on
Christian standard. Why can Jews dothe same thing. Believe me, with
the Christians we went to do wewent to Hollywood, what every It's amazing.

(47:21):
Don't give up, Roy, Iheard you say, don't give up,
never give up up. We don'tgive up. We keep going anyway.
Thank both you for being with us, the Roy your Stroll and Lea
Newburger. The book is about themas quoll from Signa to Rush Laimer or
Jewish during to continues. It's writtenmber by Nacholan Seltzer, published by Art
Scroll. I highly recommend the fascinatingbook. I enjoyed the first time we

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had Central Park to signing, andthis is a great continuation whether you read
the first book or not his otherbook twenty twenty Vision. It's a great,
great addition to your library. Thankyou for joining us who tremendous honors
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