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Welcome back to the program, Moms, Zev Brenner. We're going
to look at the fascinating story about a Catholic Estapha
agent who spied on Nazis, married an anti Zionist Ramboy,
helped kidnap Yesslo Schumacher, and the very interesting story is
a subject of a couple of books that are coming out.
But our guest tonight is Professor Mutty and Bari, professor
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of Jewish Studies at the University of South Carolina at Penbroke,
author of the book on Ruth Bloud that's coming out
a little while. Thank you for being part of our
show tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Thank you for inviting me. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Thank you. I know you're right and new lecture, and
you're expert on the Sacker military heart. Tell us about
your fascination with Ruth Black because she's a very colorful woman.
We're going to get her in just a moment.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Well, you said yourself, such an interesting person, how can
you not be fascinated by her?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well, so tell us about Ruth Blau. That's her name,
But she wasn't born rue Plau. She was born a
Catholic and only child, and she had a very colorful history,
including a bar girl in Paris. But we're going to
get to all that, so let's look at her interesting life.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, Well, she was born in France in nineteen twenty
as Madelene Lucette Ferrei. She was born to Catholic parents
and she grew up in Paris, a wonderful location, one
of the best spots in Paris, and grew up in
the church and received Catholic education. And during World War II,
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she was eighteen years old, she got married. She moved
to Salent, France. Many people left Paris back during the
war and moved to Salin, France. And as a young woman,
she didn't get along with her husband. She divorced him.
She had a son, a child, and the war came
and also refugees and also other things that came with that.
(09:23):
And I've been studying her with a biography, and I
found that she helped save one Jewish woman from a
concentration camp in Nice. She went with a false document
to the concentration camp and pulled that woman out of
(09:45):
that concentration camp and said to the Nazis, you had
a mistake. This is the wrong person. You got the
wrong person. She pulled her out, she took her with
her to her village in the border. Were friends in
Spain and and later on after that, this was before
after that she joined the French Resistance and officially got
(10:08):
drafted to the French resistance. And this is where you
started saying the Gestapo and all those things, So this
is where it became. So she was recruited to the
French Resistance to a to a group of resistance that
was located in southern France, and the purpose of this
resistance was to collect information about Nazi Nazi activities in
(10:36):
southern France, and this information was sent to Britain in
order to prepare for D Day, as the Nazis themselves
were expecting that there will be an invasion of of
of the British powers, British Americans what later would become
(10:56):
be called D Day, so there were strengthening their forces
in silent France expecting the invasion, and Madeleine Lussette was
recruited to the French resistance to to spy on the
Nazi activities and her specific purpose was to learn more
(11:19):
about the Gestapo, the secret services that were that were
used by the Nazis, so she was able to penetrate them,
to gain their trust, to get accepted into the Gestapo
(11:39):
as a double agent, and was able to send information
about Nazi activities to to you know, to the resistance.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, she has been very good if she was a
to recruited, But how did she end up being a spy?
What was how did they know that she would work out? Well?
Did she volunteer? How did that process play out?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, so at that time and the Gestapo was very effective.
The Gestapo was able to crash the resistance, the French
resistance very strongly at that time. So they had to
recruit more and more and more people all the time
because the Nazis were able to capture everyone. And so
this is this is how we know the process went.
(12:25):
How did she do that? She was a very charming woman,
And this is something that I've learned from her biography
and I've studied her life from the moment she was
born to the moment she died. People she was very talented,
she was very smart, and she was she had a
certain charm and many people were captivated by her. And
(12:46):
she was very beautiful. Also, something that always is always helpful.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That always helpful, and I guess it helped her respiring things.
So perhaps she ended up and she also ended up
in jail, correct.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, so she in germ multiple times in her life.
So the first time was after the French, after the
Nazis were defeated. So every person, as every woman that
collaborated with the Nazis or even had an affair with
the Nazis. French women had an affair with the Nazis,
(13:20):
with the German soldier, they were all brought to interrogations
and the way in which they were treated was that
they would chase their hair and they will parade them
on the streets of you know, the cities in France
to shame them and to people would spit on them
and would kick them. And so she was brought to interrogations.
(13:44):
They didn't know that she was a secret agent. She
didn't know that there was she was a double agent.
And after five days of interrogation she was set free.
They didn't touch her. And after the war ended, she came.
She moved back to Peris with her family, with her
son and a mother, and she joined the French secret
(14:05):
service and she was sent to a mission in Morocco,
to a spying mission in Morocco again to spy against
you know, after the world there was still a people
who were fascist and Nazis all over, you know, all
over places, and there was a certain individual who was
(14:25):
an Italian fascist that was living in Morocco and he
was starting to steer up something and they were trying to,
you know, to have a better grip of what is
doing and what is planning. So they sent her, and
they sent her to spy on him, and she was
able to become acquainted with him. And it was interesting
(14:50):
because the Moroccan Secret Service was also spying on him,
and so when they saw them together, they arrested her.
They arrested her. And this is how I know all
these things, because they wrote reports about it, and so
it's all documented and and so this is how so
(15:10):
she was. She was She joined the Moroccan the French
secret Service, and she went on a mission after the
war to continue her spying duties on ex fascist x
Nazis in North Africa. That assignment was done and then
she moved back. She came back to France and as
far as I know, this is where her secret spying,
(15:35):
you know, jobs ended. She started a process of education.
She went to study religion, religious studies and in the Sorbonne,
which is the prestigious university in France, and this is
where she started her interest in learning about other religions.
(15:57):
She went through a process of searchings, multiple religions and
multiple prospects, and eventually she ended up in Judaism. And
at the same time she had the business. So you
asked me about the jail. The jail period, she had
the business and she wasn't paying your taxes. She was
(16:20):
importing and selling stuff. She was buying materials from North
Africa and selling them in France, and she wasn't paying
your taxes, and the authorities, the French authorities caught her
and put her for two months in jail for not
paying your taxes. She did on the taxes, so so.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
She started telling down. Now you also mentioned she was
also a bar girl too, wasn't she.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I didn't say that, No, other people said, I've read.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Other other articles about her. So have you found that
to be the case?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So I.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Do it by elimination. I don't. I don't think she
was a ball girl because because the story that she
was a bar girl in Paris, she wasn't living in Paris.
She was living in southern France. And I found this
the French documents, you know, the Secret Service, so documents
in the town. Now they declassified. They declassified all the
documents from World War Two. So I went to France
(17:21):
and I was able to read all the documents about
her past. They never mentioned that she was a bull girl,
and they wrote a lot of things over there, so
I don't think they were shy or they were so
I just don't think she was a bull girl. This
is not true.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So how did that end up? Because I kept hearing
over the years that she was she was in show
business as a bar girl. You kept hearing different things. Yes,
so there has to be some substance to those rumors.
I'm just curious. Yeah, if you know national opinion, how
that came about.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Is L was the head of the Mossades. We still
didn't talk about the Osl affair. This is where she
came her first path with the Mosad, and there were
other paths with Demosad. This is not the only path.
But I think it isn't all kind of spread these
rumors about her past, and there was a reason for that.
(18:14):
The way in which I understand it, the way I
figured out in my research about her relationship with the
Mosad that she probably did work with the Mosad, especially
in her later years, and she collaborated with the Mosad,
doing some very interesting and some very dangerous assignments for
(18:34):
de Mosad. But he had to trash a reputation so
that people won't suspect that they are collaborating, they're walking together.
So he spread those rumors that she was a prostitute
and about and you know, all those things. And I
think this is the reason why he spread those rumors.
But we'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We our fascinating guests. As you're heard. He's an extra
Nauri Karta, he's an expert on software. He's writing a
book about Ruth ben David, who was born as a Catholic.
She was a Gestapo agent. She worked for the Mosad
that she also worked for French secret service, and she
ended up marrying the leader of Theuri character of Amruan Blau,
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and she kidnapped Yusla. Schumacher will talk about that as well.
Our guest is Professor Mutty and Bari, Professor of Jewish Study,
University of South Carolina at Pembroke.
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You're listening to talk Line with Zev Brenner, America's premier
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And now here's your host, bomb Zev Brenner. We're looking
at the very interesting story of Ruth Blau. She was
infiltrated the Gestapo, work for French intelligence, work for the
most sad, and she also married the anti Zionist naturiacard
to leader rob Amram Blau. She actually helped kidnap yeah
(25:59):
soo Shuman Parker, which kept the most sut and kept
a lot of people going for a while. Our guests
Professor Mutti Enbar's professor of Jewish due University of North
Carolina at the Pembroke and we're prision being with us.
His book is coming out soon when's the book on
Ruthlot coming out, by.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The way, during the summer, So there's this some time.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
There's still some time, but we're just giving everybody a
preview of what what, what to expect. And that's you
know here, okay. So she tells her she was fascinated
with Judy's. Well, tell us more about how did that
come about?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
She was just looking for spiritual, you know, excitement, and
she wasn't happy with her Christian faith and she started
studying in a college setting and started exploring. She went
to seventy Advantage, she studied the Greek mythology, and then
(26:54):
she got focused on the Bible. She got really focused
on the Bible. But she didn't know any Jew. You know,
there was no Jews in her surrounding. So at that
point she met an Israeli that was studying in France
in the Sorbonne and as I said, she was a
beautiful woman. Everybody wanted to marry her. She had a
(27:18):
multiple people trying to marry her, and he fell in
love with her, and he said, and you need to convert.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
And so she.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Went to this process of conversion in order to get married. Eventually,
this marriage did not move forward. They broke up, but
she continued her conversion and she converted in her Reform
synagogue in Paris in I think nineteen forty nine. And
after that she met an Orthodox rabbi who wanted to
marry her, and they said, you know your a phone convert.
(27:53):
It won't work. You need to convert again. So she
converted an Orthodox conversion in hers in order to get
married with him. And they already got engaged and they
planned to move to Israel and everything was already set,
and eventually broke the engagement and she was heartbroken and
went back to France. In nineteen sixty, she decided to
(28:17):
do aliyah after her son, her son from her first marriage,
was already eighteen years old. He decided to move to
Israel and he joined the ideas and she made Aliyah.
And when she came to Israel, I should have mentioned
that in France, while she was doing the Orthodox conversion,
(28:37):
she came across a Rabbi Mises, Elijah Mises, who was
a two way Kata kind of person, and he helped
her with her conversion. And so he moved to Israel
and he joined the Tueikata community in Mersham and when
(28:59):
she came to Israel. When she moved, she did aia
Miser's cot there And this is where the Josele story begins.
So for the audience who doesn't remember exactly what the
Ossele story is about, there was a family that was
able to get out of the Soviet Union and a
(29:20):
free generation. A grandfather and grandmother, children and grandchildren. And
the grandfather was a brasslevt hacid that was prosecuted in
the Soviet Union and he was sent to Siberia and
he lost his eye and he lost his toes and
he was able, you know, eventually to get out and
(29:42):
settled in with the brasslevd in the Ashua Rim. And
his daughter had two children, and she gave the son
Josele to the grandfather to take care of him. And
while they were settling down, and eventually she signed end
up the boy to a to religious Zionist school. The
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boy was seven years old, and the grandfather opposed the schooling,
and the grandfather kidnapped the boy so that he won't
be sent.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
To a religious Zioner school.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, because they the grandfather was a brass left hassid,
you know. Back then the Braslef Hasids were very anti Israeli,
and the daughter signed up her son to a religious
Zionist school instead of a header yeshiva in Jerusalem, and
so he kidnapped the boy. And after a while they
(30:41):
were trying to hide yoursel in all kinds of places.
The police was after them. They they they basically they
gave the boy to the toua Karta and said take
the boy outside of Israel. So touri Kata didn't know
how to do that. But then Maises remembered the French
convert and he called her in. She just made Alia,
(31:03):
She just made Alia, and he called her in and
he asked her to smuggle the boy outside of Israel,
and she came up with a plan. She basically changes
the identity from a boy to a girl. He foughted
documents on a Belgian passport that she had a son
instead of a boy, and she was able to take
(31:25):
him outside of Israel. So first she brought the boy
to yeshiva in Switzerland, and the boy stayed there for
a year until he was exposed. One of the teachers
at the yeshiva identified that this is Josele and then
they had to move him to a different location. He
went to a yeshiva in France for eight months. Again
(31:49):
he was exposed after eight months, and then they moved
him to Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And she coordinated all the activity was done by her.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yes, everything she's done. So after two and a half
years in Israel that they couldn't find the boy, then
going on asked the Mossad to find the boy. So
the Mosad for their investigations, were able to link her
to the kidnapping of the boy, and they basically they
trapped her in Paris. They kidnapped her and put her
(32:23):
under interrogation for two weeks. After two weeks basically what
happened in Israel, they also brought her son for interrogation,
and the son broke in his interrogation and gave the
Mosad the whole story what happened. And then she and
then the Mosad had her in Paris and they told
(32:46):
her that her son confessed, and so she confessed and
gave the location of the boy. It was on Penn
Street one twenty six Pence Street.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
In Brooklyn, New York, Brooklynwyork and the Supper area. And
so at what point did she marry Raebbi amram Blau,
the leader of Noturic characters.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Okay, so she received from the Masada promise that she
will not be persecuted, not her, not her son, and
not anyone else that was involved in the kidnapping.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
And why do they make that promise to her?
Speaker 5 (33:20):
So for for her to give her the to give
the address to confess.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
If he gave the address and she wouldn't be prosecuted.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yes, she made a deal.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
And then you have to give the contexts that there
was tremendous pressure on Israel to find it was a
story that Israel.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Listen this. The Sat rebel was involved, the Luba rebe
was involved, the Rebbe Kanyevsky, from the from from the
Ponivitchy Shiva was involved. There were great people were involved.
If the Israel wanted to go and prosecute everyone and
exploit tradictions and all that stuff, let me let me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Start from when you say the Sat was involved, what
does that mean involved? Tell us some I just the
first time hearing about the lubarbas or Sat. So what
was their involvement? According to what you have found?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yes, so the Lube, so the Braslev Hasid had two sons,
and these two sons were habad Hasid. They were not brasle.
They were how bad and they were the first ones
who kidnapped jose And they were in contact with the
(34:33):
Lube about all those things. But eventually they decided to
transfer him to the ture Karta. The sat maa rebe,
was involved in hiding Yoselee in New York and.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Coordinated the hiding of your social marcher.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
He knew about it. He knew. He came to him.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Between knowing about it being involved with it. So was
he involved? Did he just know about it?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
So she came to him and she needed Ruth came
to the Yes, Ruth came to the SAtma Rebe, and
there is a docu, there is a testimony about there
isn't there's So how did the Mozart connected Wood with
with the kidnapping? It was because Satmar Satmar woman that
(35:23):
went to meet the rebbe had to wait for him
a few hours and because he was he had an
unplanned meeting with Ruth for three hours and she was
talking with people about you know, she can't understand how
come the rebbe was not seeing is you know, visitors
(35:48):
and putting all of them on hold. And then when
they're waiting for three hours, and then Root is coming
out of his room and and she was talking about it,
and the Mozad agent heard this conversation, and she was
talking about it with other people, you know, and the
Mosad had the people inside the SAtma and they.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Had saying that the Masat infiltrated the Sopber community with
that had to do with the Schmar case or in general,
they infiltrated the soccer community for.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
The Yocele case, for the Oceller case.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
They suspected that there was a software connection to the kid.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yes, it was clearly it was the anti Zionist they think.
They thought it was either the SAtma all in a
two way kata or the cart.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And softmore are not the same there with one another, yes, but.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
It was they so they tried to think who are
the suspects who can be involved in that, and they
were trying to narrow it down. And when they heard
this story that Woodman David was coming out of the
SAtma Rebe from an unplanned meeting, they took for three
hours they connected the dots, you know, it was about Yoursele.
(36:58):
This is where they connected the dots, and this is
how it was all connected. Yo was the they were
hiding Yosele in the Satimar family Alta fa title by
was connected with that, with matching Yrsele with this family,
the Gertner family. So if they were taken for investigations
(37:22):
and if the police would have come, maybe a lot
of juice would come out of this, but Israel decided
not to prosecute it, to leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Now you mentioned little Barbach Rebbe, so how was he
connected to this other?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
As I said, at the first the first stages of
the kidnapping, those who kidnapped Yosele were Habad Hasidi and
they and Yosele was was They were hiding Yosele in Habbad,
y Shiza in Israeli in Lord.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But the approved them, you know, the hiding of the
of the.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Of So nobody ever investigated the Rebbe about about those issues,
and therefore we don't really know how much he knew.
Much he doesn't know. But I do know something else
about the Ubab Rebbe. What when Theavid was trying to
bring your sale to a Habbad institution in Morocco, and
(38:24):
they have asked the Rebbe if they should accept the
boy or not, and after the Rebbe told them not
to accept the boy, and so she was unable to
find a solution in Morocco. Fascinating so interesting knew that
the boy is in Morocco and there was contacting Habadi
Shiva in Morocco, so he knew he had some information
(38:47):
about what was going on with your he never shared
it with anyone.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
So let me ask you this question, President Bari. So
if the Mosart infiltrated the soccer community in New York
and they saw Ruth and the vid meet for hours
with the Satmrabian, they connected the dots, why did they
need to go ahead and get her to cooperation? They
couldn't they have done more work on the ground and
Williamsburg of that's what they knew that he was. The
(39:12):
boy was there. They probably suspected he was there. So
when they people done that on their own without her help.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
They didn't know that the boy exactly. It's located in
the SAtma is a big community. You know, you can
go house by house.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well that days it wasn't a big as it is today.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah, but another thing, they didn't want to mess with
the FBI. They didn't want to do anything you know,
that is breaking the law, the American law. So when
they when who was confessed and gave the address to
the Mossad, the Mossad contacted the FBI and told them
this is the address, please go and pick the boy
(39:48):
from there. And the FBI was not in the rush
to do that. Why was the rush to do it
so international intrigues. So here's the thing. So they was
a Soviet spy and I just I don't remember his
name right now, that the CIA was able to catch
in America and he and he was able to use
(40:12):
a fake passport to escape the United States persecution is
jail time. And he was Jewish, so he flew to
Israel and he was asking that Israel will give him
citizenship and protection because he's Jewish. And he was a
Soviet spy. And the FBI said to Israel, you want
your sale, bring us the spy please, So there was
(40:35):
an exchange. After Israel sent the spy back to the
United States, the FBI went and knocked on the Outnal
family's door and asked, was taking your sale out of
the house.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
So it was complie, very complicated. It's all in my book, Wow,
which will be coming out. That's a fascinating story on
the case of Rupe Law, who infiltrated the Gestapo for
the French resistance, was arrested in France. After the war,
she converted to Judaism. She married Rabbi Amra and Blau,
(41:09):
leader of Notataria Carta, and she was the brains behind
the kidnapping of Yuesla Schumacher. Our guest is Professor Mattimbari,
Professor Jewish sta University of North Carolina, Pembroke, and he
is author of a fascinating book dealing with Ruth Loud,
which will be out next summer. If you'd like to
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(41:33):
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(42:13):
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(42:36):
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Our annual gala is as you said. Sunday Night, November seventeenth,
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Welcome back to the program, Moms, Zev Brenner. We're going
to look at the fascinating story about a Catholic Estapha
agent who spied on Nazis, married an anti Zionist Ramboy,
helped kidnap Yesslo Schumacher, and the very interesting story is
a subject of a couple of books that are coming out.
But our guest tonight is Professor Mutty and Bari, professor
(07:53):
of Jewish Studies at the University of South Carolina at Penbroke,
author of the book on Ruth Bloud that's coming out
a little while. Thank you for being part of our
show tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Thank you for inviting me. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Thank you. I know you're right and new lecture, and
you're expert on the Sacker military heart. Tell us about
your fascination with Ruth Black because she's a very colorful woman.
We're going to get her in just a moment.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Well, you said yourself, such an interesting person, how can
you not be fascinated by her?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well, so tell us about Ruth Blau. That's her name,
But she wasn't born rue Plau. She was born a
Catholic and only child, and she had a very colorful history,
including a bar girl in Paris. But we're going to
get to all that, so let's look at her interesting life.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, Well, she was born in France in nineteen twenty
as Madelene Lucette Ferrei. She was born to Catholic parents
and she grew up in Paris, a wonderful location, one
of the best spots in Paris, and grew up in
the church and received Catholic education. And during World War II,
(09:01):
she was eighteen years old, she got married. She moved
to Salent, France. Many people left Paris back during the
war and moved to Salin, France. And as a young woman,
she didn't get along with her husband. She divorced him.
She had a son, a child, and the war came
and also refugees and also other things that came with that.
(09:23):
And I've been studying her with a biography, and I
found that she helped save one Jewish woman from a
concentration camp in Nice. She went with a false document
to the concentration camp and pulled that woman out of
(09:45):
that concentration camp and said to the Nazis, you had
a mistake. This is the wrong person. You got the
wrong person. She pulled her out, she took her with
her to her village in the border. Were friends in
Spain and and later on after that, this was before
after that she joined the French Resistance and officially got
(10:08):
drafted to the French resistance. And this is where you
started saying the Gestapo and all those things, So this
is where it became. So she was recruited to the
French Resistance to a to a group of resistance that
was located in southern France, and the purpose of this
resistance was to collect information about Nazi Nazi activities in
(10:36):
southern France, and this information was sent to Britain in
order to prepare for D Day, as the Nazis themselves
were expecting that there will be an invasion of of
of the British powers, British Americans what later would become
(10:56):
be called D Day, so there were strengthening their forces
in silent France expecting the invasion, and Madeleine Lussette was
recruited to the French resistance to to spy on the
Nazi activities and her specific purpose was to learn more
(11:19):
about the Gestapo, the secret services that were that were
used by the Nazis, so she was able to penetrate them,
to gain their trust, to get accepted into the Gestapo
(11:39):
as a double agent, and was able to send information
about Nazi activities to to you know, to the resistance.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, she has been very good if she was a
to recruited, But how did she end up being a spy?
What was how did they know that she would work out? Well?
Did she volunteer? How did that process play out?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, so at that time and the Gestapo was very effective.
The Gestapo was able to crash the resistance, the French
resistance very strongly at that time. So they had to
recruit more and more and more people all the time
because the Nazis were able to capture everyone. And so
this is this is how we know the process went.
(12:25):
How did she do that? She was a very charming woman,
And this is something that I've learned from her biography
and I've studied her life from the moment she was
born to the moment she died. People she was very talented,
she was very smart, and she was she had a
certain charm and many people were captivated by her. And
(12:46):
she was very beautiful. Also, something that always is always helpful.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That always helpful, and I guess it helped her respiring things.
So perhaps she ended up and she also ended up
in jail, correct.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, so she in germ multiple times in her life.
So the first time was after the French, after the
Nazis were defeated. So every person, as every woman that
collaborated with the Nazis or even had an affair with
the Nazis. French women had an affair with the Nazis,
(13:20):
with the German soldier, they were all brought to interrogations
and the way in which they were treated was that
they would chase their hair and they will parade them
on the streets of you know, the cities in France
to shame them and to people would spit on them
and would kick them. And so she was brought to interrogations.
(13:44):
They didn't know that she was a secret agent. She
didn't know that there was she was a double agent.
And after five days of interrogation she was set free.
They didn't touch her. And after the war ended, she came.
She moved back to Peris with her family, with her
son and a mother, and she joined the French secret
(14:05):
service and she was sent to a mission in Morocco,
to a spying mission in Morocco again to spy against
you know, after the world there was still a people
who were fascist and Nazis all over, you know, all
over places, and there was a certain individual who was
(14:25):
an Italian fascist that was living in Morocco and he
was starting to steer up something and they were trying to,
you know, to have a better grip of what is
doing and what is planning. So they sent her, and
they sent her to spy on him, and she was
able to become acquainted with him. And it was interesting
(14:50):
because the Moroccan Secret Service was also spying on him,
and so when they saw them together, they arrested her.
They arrested her. And this is how I know all
these things, because they wrote reports about it, and so
it's all documented and and so this is how so
(15:10):
she was. She was She joined the Moroccan the French
secret Service, and she went on a mission after the
war to continue her spying duties on ex fascist x
Nazis in North Africa. That assignment was done and then
she moved back. She came back to France and as
far as I know, this is where her secret spying,
(15:35):
you know, jobs ended. She started a process of education.
She went to study religion, religious studies and in the Sorbonne,
which is the prestigious university in France, and this is
where she started her interest in learning about other religions.
(15:57):
She went through a process of searchings, multiple religions and
multiple prospects, and eventually she ended up in Judaism. And
at the same time she had the business. So you
asked me about the jail. The jail period, she had
the business and she wasn't paying your taxes. She was
(16:20):
importing and selling stuff. She was buying materials from North
Africa and selling them in France, and she wasn't paying
your taxes, and the authorities, the French authorities caught her
and put her for two months in jail for not
paying your taxes. She did on the taxes, so so.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
She started telling down. Now you also mentioned she was
also a bar girl too, wasn't she.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I didn't say that, No, other people said, I've read.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Other other articles about her. So have you found that
to be the case?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So I.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Do it by elimination. I don't. I don't think she
was a ball girl because because the story that she
was a bar girl in Paris, she wasn't living in Paris.
She was living in southern France. And I found this
the French documents, you know, the Secret Service, so documents
in the town. Now they declassified. They declassified all the
documents from World War Two. So I went to France
(17:21):
and I was able to read all the documents about
her past. They never mentioned that she was a bull girl,
and they wrote a lot of things over there, so
I don't think they were shy or they were so
I just don't think she was a bull girl. This
is not true.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So how did that end up? Because I kept hearing
over the years that she was she was in show
business as a bar girl. You kept hearing different things. Yes,
so there has to be some substance to those rumors.
I'm just curious. Yeah, if you know national opinion, how
that came about.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Is L was the head of the Mossades. We still
didn't talk about the Osl affair. This is where she
came her first path with the Mosad, and there were
other paths with Demosad. This is not the only path.
But I think it isn't all kind of spread these
rumors about her past, and there was a reason for that.
(18:14):
The way in which I understand it, the way I
figured out in my research about her relationship with the
Mosad that she probably did work with the Mosad, especially
in her later years, and she collaborated with the Mosad,
doing some very interesting and some very dangerous assignments for
(18:34):
de Mosad. But he had to trash a reputation so
that people won't suspect that they are collaborating, they're walking together.
So he spread those rumors that she was a prostitute
and about and you know, all those things. And I
think this is the reason why he spread those rumors.
But we'll get to that.
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book about Ruth ben David, who was born as a Catholic.
She was a Gestapo agent. She worked for the Mosad
that she also worked for French secret service, and she
ended up marrying the leader of Theuri character of Amruan Blau,
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and she kidnapped Yusla. Schumacher will talk about that as well.
Our guest is Professor Mutty and Bari, Professor of Jewish Study,
University of South Carolina at Pembroke.
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You're listening to talk Line with Zev Brenner, America's premier
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And now here's your host, bomb Zev Brenner. We're looking
at the very interesting story of Ruth Blau. She was
infiltrated the Gestapo, work for French intelligence, work for the
most sad, and she also married the anti Zionist naturiacard
to leader rob Amram Blau. She actually helped kidnap yeah
(25:59):
soo Shuman Parker, which kept the most sut and kept
a lot of people going for a while. Our guests
Professor Mutti Enbar's professor of Jewish due University of North
Carolina at the Pembroke and we're prision being with us.
His book is coming out soon when's the book on
Ruthlot coming out, by.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The way, during the summer, So there's this some time.
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preview of what what, what to expect. And that's you
know here, okay. So she tells her she was fascinated
with Judy's. Well, tell us more about how did that
come about?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
She was just looking for spiritual, you know, excitement, and
she wasn't happy with her Christian faith and she started
studying in a college setting and started exploring. She went
to seventy Advantage, she studied the Greek mythology, and then
(26:54):
she got focused on the Bible. She got really focused
on the Bible. But she didn't know any Jew. You know,
there was no Jews in her surrounding. So at that
point she met an Israeli that was studying in France
in the Sorbonne and as I said, she was a
beautiful woman. Everybody wanted to marry her. She had a
(27:18):
multiple people trying to marry her, and he fell in
love with her, and he said, and you need to convert.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
And so she.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Went to this process of conversion in order to get married. Eventually,
this marriage did not move forward. They broke up, but
she continued her conversion and she converted in her Reform
synagogue in Paris in I think nineteen forty nine. And
after that she met an Orthodox rabbi who wanted to
marry her, and they said, you know your a phone convert.
(27:53):
It won't work. You need to convert again. So she
converted an Orthodox conversion in hers in order to get
married with him. And they already got engaged and they
planned to move to Israel and everything was already set,
and eventually broke the engagement and she was heartbroken and
went back to France. In nineteen sixty, she decided to
(28:17):
do aliyah after her son, her son from her first marriage,
was already eighteen years old. He decided to move to
Israel and he joined the ideas and she made Aliyah.
And when she came to Israel, I should have mentioned
that in France, while she was doing the Orthodox conversion,
(28:37):
she came across a Rabbi Mises, Elijah Mises, who was
a two way Kata kind of person, and he helped
her with her conversion. And so he moved to Israel
and he joined the Tueikata community in Mersham and when
(28:59):
she came to Israel. When she moved, she did aia
Miser's cot there And this is where the Josele story begins.
So for the audience who doesn't remember exactly what the
Ossele story is about, there was a family that was
able to get out of the Soviet Union and a
(29:20):
free generation. A grandfather and grandmother, children and grandchildren. And
the grandfather was a brasslevt hacid that was prosecuted in
the Soviet Union and he was sent to Siberia and
he lost his eye and he lost his toes and
he was able, you know, eventually to get out and
(29:42):
settled in with the brasslevd in the Ashua Rim. And
his daughter had two children, and she gave the son
Josele to the grandfather to take care of him. And
while they were settling down, and eventually she signed end
up the boy to a to religious Zionist school. The
(30:06):
boy was seven years old, and the grandfather opposed the schooling,
and the grandfather kidnapped the boy so that he won't
be sent.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
To a religious Zioner school.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, because they the grandfather was a brass left hassid,
you know. Back then the Braslef Hasids were very anti Israeli,
and the daughter signed up her son to a religious
Zionist school instead of a header yeshiva in Jerusalem, and
so he kidnapped the boy. And after a while they
(30:41):
were trying to hide yoursel in all kinds of places.
The police was after them. They they they basically they
gave the boy to the toua Karta and said take
the boy outside of Israel. So touri Kata didn't know
how to do that. But then Maises remembered the French
convert and he called her in. She just made Alia,
(31:03):
She just made Alia, and he called her in and
he asked her to smuggle the boy outside of Israel,
and she came up with a plan. She basically changes
the identity from a boy to a girl. He foughted
documents on a Belgian passport that she had a son
instead of a boy, and she was able to take
(31:25):
him outside of Israel. So first she brought the boy
to yeshiva in Switzerland, and the boy stayed there for
a year until he was exposed. One of the teachers
at the yeshiva identified that this is Josele and then
they had to move him to a different location. He
went to a yeshiva in France for eight months. Again
(31:49):
he was exposed after eight months, and then they moved
him to Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
And she coordinated all the activity was done by her.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yes, everything she's done. So after two and a half
years in Israel that they couldn't find the boy, then
going on asked the Mossad to find the boy. So
the Mosad for their investigations, were able to link her
to the kidnapping of the boy, and they basically they
trapped her in Paris. They kidnapped her and put her
(32:23):
under interrogation for two weeks. After two weeks basically what
happened in Israel, they also brought her son for interrogation,
and the son broke in his interrogation and gave the
Mosad the whole story what happened. And then she and
then the Mosad had her in Paris and they told
(32:46):
her that her son confessed, and so she confessed and
gave the location of the boy. It was on Penn
Street one twenty six Pence Street.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
In Brooklyn, New York, Brooklynwyork and the Supper area. And
so at what point did she marry Raebbi amram Blau,
the leader of Noturic characters.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Okay, so she received from the Masada promise that she
will not be persecuted, not her, not her son, and
not anyone else that was involved in the kidnapping.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
And why do they make that promise to her?
Speaker 5 (33:20):
So for for her to give her the to give
the address to confess.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
If he gave the address and she wouldn't be prosecuted.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yes, she made a deal.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
And then you have to give the contexts that there
was tremendous pressure on Israel to find it was a
story that Israel.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Listen this. The Sat rebel was involved, the Luba rebe
was involved, the Rebbe Kanyevsky, from the from from the
Ponivitchy Shiva was involved. There were great people were involved.
If the Israel wanted to go and prosecute everyone and
exploit tradictions and all that stuff, let me let me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Start from when you say the Sat was involved, what
does that mean involved? Tell us some I just the
first time hearing about the lubarbas or Sat. So what
was their involvement? According to what you have found?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Yes, so the Lube, so the Braslev Hasid had two sons,
and these two sons were habad Hasid. They were not brasle.
They were how bad and they were the first ones
who kidnapped jose And they were in contact with the
(34:33):
Lube about all those things. But eventually they decided to
transfer him to the ture Karta. The sat maa rebe,
was involved in hiding Yoselee in New York and.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Coordinated the hiding of your social marcher.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
He knew about it. He knew. He came to him.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Between knowing about it being involved with it. So was
he involved? Did he just know about it?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
So she came to him and she needed Ruth came
to the Yes, Ruth came to the SAtma Rebe, and
there is a docu, there is a testimony about there
isn't there's So how did the Mozart connected Wood with
with the kidnapping? It was because Satmar Satmar woman that
(35:23):
went to meet the rebbe had to wait for him
a few hours and because he was he had an
unplanned meeting with Ruth for three hours and she was
talking with people about you know, she can't understand how
come the rebbe was not seeing is you know, visitors
(35:48):
and putting all of them on hold. And then when
they're waiting for three hours, and then Root is coming
out of his room and and she was talking about it,
and the Mozad agent heard this conversation, and she was
talking about it with other people, you know, and the
Mosad had the people inside the SAtma and they.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Had saying that the Masat infiltrated the Sopber community with
that had to do with the Schmar case or in general,
they infiltrated the soccer community for.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
The Yocele case, for the Oceller case.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
They suspected that there was a software connection to the kid.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yes, it was clearly it was the anti Zionist they think.
They thought it was either the SAtma all in a
two way kata or the cart.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And softmore are not the same there with one another, yes, but.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
It was they so they tried to think who are
the suspects who can be involved in that, and they
were trying to narrow it down. And when they heard
this story that Woodman David was coming out of the
SAtma Rebe from an unplanned meeting, they took for three
hours they connected the dots, you know, it was about Yoursele.
(36:58):
This is where they connected the dots, and this is
how it was all connected. Yo was the they were
hiding Yosele in the Satimar family Alta fa title by
was connected with that, with matching Yrsele with this family,
the Gertner family. So if they were taken for investigations
(37:22):
and if the police would have come, maybe a lot
of juice would come out of this, but Israel decided
not to prosecute it, to leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Now you mentioned little Barbach Rebbe, so how was he
connected to this other?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
As I said, at the first the first stages of
the kidnapping, those who kidnapped Yosele were Habad Hasidi and
they and Yosele was was They were hiding Yosele in Habbad,
y Shiza in Israeli in Lord.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But the approved them, you know, the hiding of the
of the.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Of So nobody ever investigated the Rebbe about about those issues,
and therefore we don't really know how much he knew.
Much he doesn't know. But I do know something else
about the Ubab Rebbe. What when Theavid was trying to
bring your sale to a Habbad institution in Morocco, and
(38:24):
they have asked the Rebbe if they should accept the
boy or not, and after the Rebbe told them not
to accept the boy, and so she was unable to
find a solution in Morocco. Fascinating so interesting knew that
the boy is in Morocco and there was contacting Habadi
Shiva in Morocco, so he knew he had some information
(38:47):
about what was going on with your he never shared
it with anyone.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
So let me ask you this question, President Bari. So
if the Mosart infiltrated the soccer community in New York
and they saw Ruth and the vid meet for hours
with the Satmrabian, they connected the dots, why did they
need to go ahead and get her to cooperation? They
couldn't they have done more work on the ground and
Williamsburg of that's what they knew that he was. The
(39:12):
boy was there. They probably suspected he was there. So
when they people done that on their own without her help.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
They didn't know that the boy exactly. It's located in
the SAtma is a big community. You know, you can
go house by house.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well that days it wasn't a big as it is today.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah, but another thing, they didn't want to mess with
the FBI. They didn't want to do anything you know,
that is breaking the law, the American law. So when
they when who was confessed and gave the address to
the Mossad, the Mossad contacted the FBI and told them
this is the address, please go and pick the boy
(39:48):
from there. And the FBI was not in the rush
to do that. Why was the rush to do it
so international intrigues. So here's the thing. So they was
a Soviet spy and I just I don't remember his
name right now, that the CIA was able to catch
in America and he and he was able to use
(40:12):
a fake passport to escape the United States persecution is
jail time. And he was Jewish, so he flew to
Israel and he was asking that Israel will give him
citizenship and protection because he's Jewish. And he was a
Soviet spy. And the FBI said to Israel, you want
your sale, bring us the spy please, So there was
(40:35):
an exchange. After Israel sent the spy back to the
United States, the FBI went and knocked on the Outnal
family's door and asked, was taking your sale out of
the house.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
So it was complie, very complicated. It's all in my book, Wow,
which will be coming out. That's a fascinating story on
the case of Rupe Law, who infiltrated the Gestapo for
the French resistance, was arrested in France. After the war,
she converted to Judaism. She married Rabbi Amra and Blau,
(41:09):
leader of Notataria Carta, and she was the brains behind
the kidnapping of Yuesla Schumacher. Our guest is Professor Mattimbari,
Professor Jewish sta University of North Carolina, Pembroke, and he
is author of a fascinating book dealing with Ruth Loud,
which will be out next summer. If you'd like to
see our full interview with Professor Muttienbari about Nataria Carta
(41:33):
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