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And we're back. You know, it's been such a long time.
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Ago when we last had Roy Newburger on the air,
and he's written the Fastening Book, then from Central Park
to Sinai, and now we're here together with Roy Newburger,
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were both born with silver spoons in their mouths, and they,
in fact, in the case of Roy, had no connection
to Judaism. But now he's a full fledged prouds Jew
and both he and his wife Lea lead a wonderful
Jewish lifestyle, inspiring other people. And we're here to tell
this story. So welcome back. Good to have you join
us again on air.
Speaker 11 (06:39):
We're so happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
As a pleasure, my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So I know you like to be called Roy because
in the book that you've referred to as you Sroll,
but in the headline it's Roy and Lea, You're Linda Lea.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So I noticed that the economy. Should I read anything
into it?
Speaker 11 (06:53):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 13 (06:54):
So the reason I use Roy when I want in public,
when I speak, when I write. But the first book
was aimed at Balichuva, the whole world that I came from.
In that world, if someone sees a book by Yustroel,
a name which I didn't have till I was thirty
years old.
Speaker 11 (07:15):
I didn't have a heap reading name until I was
thirty years old.
Speaker 13 (07:17):
But if someone sees the name you should they're going
to feel that's weird. And so I wanted it to
be a book that everybody could read from that world
that I came from.
Speaker 11 (07:27):
Once I started with the name Roy, I kept the
name Roy for all.
Speaker 13 (07:31):
The books and all the speaking, and that's why I
continue to use Roy to this day.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And also your father was well known in the Wall
Street correct royy.
Speaker 13 (07:41):
But we have different middle initials. He's Roy R. He
was Roy rothschild. I'm Roy Salant that in itself, the
middle names tell you a lot.
Speaker 14 (07:50):
May I just said something on this subject.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Sure that.
Speaker 15 (07:54):
We had in mind with the first book. I'm the
editor of everything that my husband writes. I didn't mind
reaching out to people Jewish people who were not observant
that they should become closer. But it turned out that
the from world loved the book and it helps them
to appreciate what they have and to be inspired to
reach out to others who were like us.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But when you speak, you know I hear brevertson young
Rice and somehow you.
Speaker 11 (08:19):
Speak, you know, that's a compliment.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's the young Rice bless the.
Speaker 15 (08:24):
Memory, totally not conscious, but people tell me that I
hear her when you're speaking.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
We'll talk about the Ester Hung Rights connection. But let
me begin phras with you Roy. Because you grew up,
you had a silver spoon and your father was successful
in Wall Street. You grew up from what I understand
knowing is Zilch about Judy is am I correct less
than Zilch.
Speaker 11 (08:46):
That's the minus Zilch.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Still tell me what did you know? Do you know
what Knica was?
Speaker 11 (08:51):
I tell you I knew nothing. We didn't we had
December twenty fifth is my favorite day of the year.
We had. We didn't know what versus Shauna, you kipper,
he said.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Bit of Christmas, but not Russia.
Speaker 11 (09:01):
Shana, you said it. That is absolutely correct.
Speaker 13 (09:05):
And and but it was amazing because even in this
world where I was living what's called the American dream,
where I really had everything in terms of materialism, I
never from the moment I was conscious. I mean even
as a little kid, I never had a moment I
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knew something was wrong, something was missing.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
And there was a thirty one year search until we
finally found something called Tara. Never heard the word till then.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Now, growing up with anything Jewish, not even hamantash and latkeez, gafilter, fish, bagels,
not even bagels lot, not even bagels.
Speaker 11 (09:49):
I talk about it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You did you know you were Jewish? You know?
Speaker 13 (09:53):
You run from it, you try to hide it. Everybody knows,
the non Jews know you're Jewish. You know you're Jewish,
but you try not to know about it. And we
in our hoever that we grew up in, we tried
not to realize we're Jewish.
Speaker 11 (10:08):
We ran away from it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
But you're roy S standing for Celan. Did you know
Celant growing up that that was your middle initial?
Speaker 11 (10:16):
That would have stood for My grandfather, Aaron B.
Speaker 13 (10:20):
Celant told me when I was a little boy, we
come from a famous rabbi named Israel Solanter.
Speaker 11 (10:27):
I didn't know what it meant. I didn't care what
it meant, and I'm not sure he cared what it meant.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
But the amazing thing is that my mother, who was
a Salant, had this clanter and the shama.
Speaker 11 (10:40):
She didn't know what it meant, but what.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
It meant was that she never had satisfaction in this
affluent world of the Upper East Side of Manhattan. And
I inherited that, and I inherited this spiritual restlessness. And
so the name Solant was working underground and we just
couldn't We couldn't live having that name, but we didn't.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
Know what it meant.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Now, did your mother grow up and also with devoided
Judian did your father grow up with devoided Judaism as
well correct.
Speaker 13 (11:16):
Both born in the US, both born devoid of Judaism.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, Now, you grew up in the affluence.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You went to fields, in the private school, you had
it all silver school.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
My wife the way, I'm sorry you met you. Okay,
we'll talk to little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You'll find out her background, because she spoke at least
had some Mundish in her background.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Both, but I just want to get to her in
just a moment. So you grew up. Did did anybody
else was a Jewish? Had a Jewish contuc were invited
to a bar mitzvahs?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Did you have any association anything that resembled something smacking
of Judaism?
Speaker 11 (11:51):
Really, no, I was. It's a little bit of a joke.
It's a big it's a lot. It is a joke.
Speaker 13 (11:59):
But my cubs out pat when I was like ten
years old, was in the basement of Temple Emmanuel or Reform,
the Reform, you know cathedral in New York.
Speaker 11 (12:09):
But but but, okay, I went. I went to one
bar mitzvah.
Speaker 13 (12:16):
But it was such a joke that it was like
it was like making fun of everything Jewish.
Speaker 11 (12:24):
And so for all practical purpose, for all practical purposes,
I had zero connection with the Jewish world.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Wow, let me turn to you, Lea. You grew up
speaking Yiddish.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Right, not speaking Yiddish, but your.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Parents spoke was spoken there.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
Not in my home, but my mother's parents. They were
from Poland, and they came to America very early, like
in nineteen hundred, and they spoke Ddish in the home.
My mother understood it, she knew how to speak it,
but she didn't speak it to us. And I had
more of a sense of Jewishness. My mother told me
that had we been in Europe i was born and
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I'm not telling my agents, okay, I was born in
nineteen forty four.
Speaker 14 (13:14):
She told me that we would have been in the Holocaust,
and we had.
Speaker 15 (13:17):
There were family members of my on my grandparents' side
that were killed by Hitler, so she told me that.
And my grandfather made a satyr every year. And I
had to stay home from public school in Russia shanam
kip her out of respect. I had a little connection.
And when I went to my friend's we went to
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some var mitzvahs and I heard Samaya so well. I
felt something, but I never We didn't observe at home
at all, not kosher Narkhanaka and nothing really.
Speaker 14 (13:52):
I stayed home from school in.
Speaker 15 (13:53):
Russastoniam Keepper out of respect because there was public schools
where I went that day, but we didn't go to school.
Speaker 14 (14:00):
And I also felt that material.
Speaker 15 (14:03):
Things I had what I needed materially. But you know,
I realized very young, it's not enough to live for.
You get one thing, you're not satisfied. You want the
next thing, you want the next thing, You're.
Speaker 14 (14:14):
Never ever satisfied.
Speaker 15 (14:15):
So I also felt something was missing. There has to
be more to life. There has to be a real
meaning and purpose higher than ourselves, not just live for ourselves.
And when we met very young in high school fifteen
and sixteen years old, ninth and tenth grade, my husband
made me more aware and we have to find it together,
and together we searched for the real thing.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Now you both met the Fieldstone right and which is
a private school. But you both weren't religious. You got
married not religious, correct, And what were you doing right?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Professional?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You didn't go into Wall Street at that point in
tom You followed very successful in Wall Street, but you did.
I believe you liked journalism at least part of the time.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
In beginning, I wanted to be a college professor English
language and literature. I studied literature because you know, I
thought I'm gonna find meaning there.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
But but after a while that didn't work, and and
and and and then.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
We returned to the u we were. We studied in
England for a year in graduate school at Oxford University.
Speaker 13 (15:18):
Then we came back to America. And that's when I
got into the newspaper business I had. I was became
the publisher of a weekly newspaper in the Hudson Valley
near uh near Newburgh, west.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
Point Cornwall on Hudson.
Speaker 13 (15:35):
And I owned a weekly newspaper and I did everything there, reported, photographer, layout, average, you.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Name it, everything and so but you but you didn't
stick with it for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now, you tried other.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Things I did and I didn't. So I'll tell you
an amazing story. I wanted to make this a great newspaper.
So what did I know about newspapers? So then was
there's an organization called the National Newspaper Association all the
weekly newspapers in America. The president of that organization was.
Speaker 11 (16:09):
A guy named Walter Grunfeld.
Speaker 13 (16:12):
He was the nephew of the famous Diane Grunfeld.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
The odd based in in London.
Speaker 13 (16:18):
Walter was a newspaper publisher in Binghamton, New York, and
I became his friend.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
He was the head of this organization, and I told.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
Him one day, Walter, we want to come and learn
from you. Can we spend the day with you? So
we went up to the two of us and spent
the day with Walter.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
At the end of the day we were about ready
to go home. We went to Walter's.
Speaker 13 (16:38):
House coffee six thirty night and he wanted to watch
the news. He turned on the TV and Walter Gruntfeld, this,
this iconic figure, the head of the National Newspaper Association,
is standing in front of the TV and he's crying.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
He's crying, what's going on? It was October nineteen seventy three,
the Young Kipper War, and Walter Grunfelt saying, I can't
believe it. A week ago Isuel was lost.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
Now they general sarm Roons crosses to West Canal. He's
got the Egyptian army surrounded there, marching on Damascus.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
And I'm like, uh oh, yeah, right, I know about that,
all right. I read in the paper there's a war
in the Middle East.
Speaker 13 (17:26):
Somewhere and Walter Grunfeld looks at me and he starts screaming, what.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Kind of a juel are you? What are you made
of stone? Don't you have a heart?
Speaker 13 (17:39):
And those words penetrated me to this day they still penetrate.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
So that's when everything changed.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
A few months later we met Rebinson as to young Rice,
and then after we moved to her husband's community in
Woodmere in New York Long Island. That's when I while
we got out of the newspaper business, that I started
doing other things.
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Roy s newburger S stance with salant and he said,
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Our guests.
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You just heard speak with a passion, Roy Newburger, Roy
s Newburger s stance with salon and he said, with
his well wife Leah Linda, she used to be known.
And the first time we had him on the air,
the book was called from Central Park to Sinai, which
they wrote themselves. Now that the subject of a book
called from Sinai to Jerusalem to Jushelam, our Jewish journey continues.
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It's written by Nachman Seltzer by our scrolls, and people
can get it and I recommend it. Now tell me
what are the differences between the first book and this book?
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Very interesting? The first book, first all was written.
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By me, and it's obviously it covers our entire spiritual
journey up to the year two thousand. That's what it
was published twenty three years ago. But a lot happened
since then. We started speaking all over the world. When
that book came out. We started speaking first in the
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United States. Since then, we've traveled to fifteen countries, spoken
thousands of times, and we've had so many adventures all over.
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The world of every kind you can imagine. So what
Rabbi Selzia wanted to do? First of all, this.
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Book is written from his point of view, and he
talks about the beginning up to the point that.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
I wrote the first book. But this tells all the
intervening years, hundreds and hundreds of beautiful adventures with Jews
all around the world, and it shows the incredible the fire.
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And I'm asol today people who want to return to
a Jewish way of life.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
All over the world. I mean, you go to Russia,
you can't speak the language. You think, how could this work? Mean?
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I mean, I mean Kiyo, I mean I mean I
mean to Beliee Georgia, I mean Brilint.
Speaker 11 (24:06):
How they I can't even speak their language. And so
we have a translator. It's unbelievable. Words from the heart and.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
To the heart blossom a live. So let me turn
to you, Leah. So your husband gets turned on. The
guy says, what kind of a Jew are you? How
about you? Were you connected at all? The death but
your husband's experience effect you had. You end up with
reverisent Esta, Young Rice and he Nani, which was a
big movement to bring people back to Judaism.
Speaker 15 (24:34):
I was present at that historic moment when the weal
the Gunfeld was screaming at my husband, and both of
us felt those words.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Going through our head. What kind of Jew are you?
What kind of Jew are you? And we had studied
at that point every religion that my husband didn't go.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think, wasn't he weren't he Wasn't he a Buddhist?
Weren't you a Buddhist? At a while?
Speaker 11 (24:59):
Was it everything?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay? Everything we had?
Speaker 14 (25:01):
We put it this way.
Speaker 15 (25:02):
We were we were in college together at the University
of Michigan. And that's the point where my husband didn't mention,
but he felt since we were having issues in our
marriage because we didn't know, we didn't have to it
to tell us.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
How to have a good marriage.
Speaker 15 (25:15):
And he felt very hopeless, and he woke up in
the middle of the night, God, if you near help me. Now,
this is amazing because we had never met anyone who
believed in God, any Jewish people who believed in God.
And for him to say this was major, and all
of a sudden we felt hope and we started to
study every religion except Judaism because our friends of our mitzvahs,
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it was just a party with a good, delicious roast beef,
and you gave a nice check and they never went
back to synagogue again.
Speaker 14 (25:46):
And we said, Judaism is materialism.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
We want something real, something spiritual, a greater meaning and
purpose in life. So we were major students and we
studied all these religions. We studied Buddhism and hindusm Hinduism
and Christianity.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Did you want to convert to Christianity? I read in
the book. Didn't you at one point decide you want
to become Christians?
Speaker 11 (26:06):
We never converted, but you wanted to.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
Well no, I mean we didn't get to the point
of our arting, but we felt very you know, like
like maybe this really is the truth. But then we
felt that we want to be normal people, live in
a community, raise our children.
Speaker 14 (26:22):
With a great spiritual life.
Speaker 15 (26:24):
But we wanted the highest and the best, and the
highest and the best in these other ways of life.
You sit on a mountain top and contemplate you're an asthetic.
You remove yourself from the world, and we knew.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
That wasn't right.
Speaker 14 (26:35):
Brokashem has told us this is not it, this is
not it.
Speaker 15 (26:38):
And then when we went through everything else and our
daughter and mostly non Jewish friends and telling her about
their religion, we decided, and those words what kind of
Jew are you? We decided we better look into our own.
And that's when we went to hear Reverson young Grice.
Speaker 13 (26:54):
But zeb, I just want to tell you, I'm a
little nuts and my wife is so normal.
Speaker 11 (26:59):
Not nuts. My wife is so normal, just intense. Thank you.
It keeps me. I am to normal, she keeps you
that way. But I really believe this stuff was true
until it all turned out to be nothing empty, there's
nothing there. It didn't work.
Speaker 14 (27:20):
But we never went to the services or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We were just studying a few Well, I think I
think in your book, you're right, it's written that you
almost became Christians.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Something held you back.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
It was I've been to yeah, okay, but yeah. I
wrote a book called Why the Jews Are Wrong and
the Christians are Right, but barjasm I couldn't get it
published and it's all total gibberish, garnished.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
So Okay, So now you're looking, you're you're shaking up,
you know, So what kind of a Jew are you?
So what happens you meet reverenson ness to young guys
and let's pick up from there.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
That's so simple. There was.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
I was a newspaper publisher. So we heard these words
from Walter Grundfeld, what kind of a Jew are you?
Speaker 11 (28:08):
And they're going through my head. And our oldest daughter
we're about to send to Catholic school and in the
first grade where we lived upstate New York.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
May I explain that though, because it was the best
school in the area and many Jews went there.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
It wasn't that we were converting.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
It was just that it was the best school, and
Jews have to go to the best school, right.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
So I had a newspaper, an advertiser in my paper.
Speaker 13 (28:33):
A beautiful June named Bob Ushman. He owned the hardware
store in Cornwall, New York. And I'm talking to him
one day and these words, what kind of a Jew?
You're going through my head? I said to listen. You know, Bob,
I'm thirty one years old.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
I was never in a synagogue in my life, Like,
what do they do there? So he calls me back
that night. Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 13 (28:55):
We have this evangelist, woman evangelist coming next week to
speak at our at our synagogue.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
You want to come, Okay, will come. And that is
how we met rebiton Ester Young Rice.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
She was had been supposed to come six months earlier,
but she got sick laryngitis, and and and.
Speaker 11 (29:17):
They rescheduled it. And the timing was unbelievable because that was.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
The moment when I realized everything else I've studied is nothing.
Speaker 11 (29:27):
There's nothing there.
Speaker 13 (29:29):
I was like at the bottom Memtesh Shari Tuma and
there was I discussed there's nothing in life, And all
of a sudden at that moment, revertson es to Young
Rice comes and we hear her speak.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
So what about the speech that said, okay, you said
you've ford every religion that you can find, So what
was it that night that you heard that was different
that resonated with you and said this is it.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I'm home.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
I would like to speech.
Speaker 15 (29:56):
I just first want to say that, of course, Reviiton
as to Young Race, was not an a angelis trying to
reach out and teach get people to convert to Judaism.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
That's what evangelists does to get people to converse.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
She was preaching, she was getting people turned on to Judy.
That's what he nty is about Jewish people.
Speaker 15 (30:12):
And yeah, anyway, so she said that night that were
descended from King's prophets, matriarchs, patriarchs. We taught the world
there's a God. We gave morality to the world. We
have our Torah to study and live by day and night.
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We had never heard such words and we were very,
very moved.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
And my husband could.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Tell you more about your souls were on fire, right,
That's I think somebody's book was they.
Speaker 11 (30:45):
Were drained and they were ready to be filled up
because we had really tried by then every single thing
in the world. The only thing that I shouldn't say it, okay,
why not.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
What they did try to?
Speaker 11 (31:03):
This is fine. The only thing I never tried was
drugs because I just knew that was suicide. But there
was nothing else we hadn't explored.
Speaker 13 (31:11):
And at that moment God manages the world, you know,
to the micro second, And at that very moment we
met rabbitson young Rice, and all of a sudden we
had we heard something that we knew would fill up.
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We're speaking with your heard. Roy and Leah Neuberger are
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Speaker 4 (37:25):
They were start off like not knowing about Judaism and
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had everything, but it wasn't enough. They was searching and
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is called From Sinai to RuSHA laam Our Jewish Journey continues,
written very Boy Knapman Seltzer from Arts Grow. Okay, so
you meet rebertson Young Rise, you get turned on I'm Home.
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So what happens? So did you all of a sudden
become religious. Was it a journey? Did you struggle what
happens next?
Speaker 13 (37:56):
I tell you it was incredible. So we were so
awe struck when we heard her speak that we couldn't
I don't know. I could have nothing to say the
next morning. This is how I work.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
Next morning, it just all jelled, I said. I wrote
her a letter. Rapenson Young writes, if this is true
what you said last night, then there's gotta be another step.
What do we do? She wrote back to I was amazed.
She wrote back to me, and she said, yes, you
have to study Taro.
Speaker 13 (38:24):
You have to come to my classes. Her classes were
at Charit Sea in Brooklyn and.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
The Syrian Jewish shows Ocean Parkway, and it was a.
Speaker 13 (38:34):
Two hour drive for us. There were two problems. Number one,
there was an oil and border after this after the young.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Kipper, what year are we talking about? This is nineteen
seventy four. And where were you living at the time.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
In Cornwall, Upstates?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Cornwall? Okay, Yeah, So.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
We had a two hour drive with and they were
an energy crisis had they.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
Were racing and gas.
Speaker 13 (38:57):
And number two, I had to put the newspaper every
Tuesday night.
Speaker 11 (39:01):
To take it to the printer on Wednesday, and I
stayed up. How could we go? Tuesday night was their
class in Brooklyn.
Speaker 13 (39:07):
And then we looked at each other and we said, look,
you know what, this is life and death. We've got
to go and hear what this lady has to say.
So we turned our whole schedule around. We drove to
Brooklyn with our meager supply of gas every Tuesday night,
and that became the center of our week.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Every week hearing Tarra unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (39:31):
Then a few months later, the IDF called Reverenson, young
Rice rebitson Raban it you have to come to Israel
to speak to the soldiers. And first, you know, her
friends told her they're gonna throw tomatoes, and she.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
What are you going? Anyway? IDF kept calling, calling, Okay,
I'm going. So she took a small group to Israel.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
We never wanted to go to Israel before because we thought,
you know, the Jews stole it from the Arabs.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
But we're hearing all this, but believe you believe that, right,
you believe that the Jews so ok.
Speaker 13 (40:02):
But then we learned we heard Rashi, Okay, whatever, I'm
not going to go to the first Rushi and Hummish.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
We don't have time, but but we found out. We
studied Tarrah. God gave the land to the Jewish people.
All of a sudden, we're Jews. We want to go.
Speaker 13 (40:16):
So we got on the l All plane with her
with Reverensen, young Rice in June of May, June whatever
it was, nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 11 (40:26):
Midnight. We get on the plane and we're going to Israel.
We go to sleep.
Speaker 13 (40:31):
At four in the morning, we hear these noises and
these guys are all getting up.
Speaker 11 (40:37):
And they're putting boxes on their heads. We never saw
Talas and Tillin till we were on l Al the
midnight flight. Wow, a whole in the world.
Speaker 13 (40:51):
We got to Israel and we had our first shabas
at Kibutslavi in the Galiel.
Speaker 11 (40:58):
And as my wife says, all the time, we were
in the peace movement when we were young Liberal college.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
So when you say the peace women, who were you
demonstrating for or against the Vietnam war?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Vietnam War? Okay, that was the big thing then, Okay.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
Right, So we had shabis.
Speaker 13 (41:19):
We never had peace in our lives until we had
shabas at Kibbutzadi. Our second Shabis was in your shalayaan.
We had two weeks living like Jews. It was mind boggling.
We got back to Kennedy Airport, we saw Rebindson, young
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Rice and her father.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
We waved goodbye.
Speaker 13 (41:42):
We drove back to Cornwall on Hudson, and my wife
and I looked at each other.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
And our immediate reaction was, we are out of here.
That's it. You can't live here anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
So what happened with you? We have a little time left.
So now, how did your families react?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Your father?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Your parents were anti I didn't well, I'm going to
guess anti religion. They didn't have any religion.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I'm sure it didn't go over well when you said
I'm becoming an Orthodox Jew.
Speaker 15 (42:10):
Our parents thought crazy that they were hoping it was
temporary insanity, and they thought we went off the deep end.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
They didn't.
Speaker 11 (42:23):
Yeah, we did go off.
Speaker 15 (42:25):
They thought it was archaic, outdated.
Speaker 14 (42:27):
They didn't understand.
Speaker 15 (42:29):
But gradually they saw the beautiful family life. We worked
very hard keep it up, aimed to honor our parents,
and our children were so respectable and nice, and they
loved and adored our children and grandchildren. So gradually they
saw that it's good. I just want to point out
one thing that that made us so inspired by the
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rabbits and now racist classes. In those first days when
we went that we were finally finding out how to
have a good marriage out of research children, how to
understand what's going on in the world. So we went
every week and then, as my husband said, we went
to Israel.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
So then you became religious. Now you tried different professions. Roy,
you were Yeshiva principal right for a while.
Speaker 11 (43:15):
Yeah, general studies, principle more than you know. We mo
THEI kodish because but I don't have the.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Best So he gave up being the newspaperywhere principal. And
then what happened?
Speaker 13 (43:25):
Then I went into Wall Street and I found out
I'm not my father. I share many characteristics of my father,
many of my mother, but I never had my father's
genius in Wall Street.
Speaker 11 (43:39):
So what I realized, it's not my future. My future
is not in the world of business. I was crest forled.
Speaker 13 (43:47):
Rabbi Seltzer described it so beautifully in the new book.
And again I was at a low point, like the bottom,
What am I gonna do? I wasn't a kid anymore.
And then I thought to myself, Wow, maybe you can
write that book you always wanted to write. And that's
when I started writing from Central Park to Sinai and
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we had a new career. Our career started I was
fifty two years old, our career of writing and our
career of speaking.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
And it was so beautiful.
Speaker 13 (44:18):
And zeb I want to add also, our parents got
so on board with us.
Speaker 11 (44:23):
As the years ago went by, we went out of
our way to be close to them. We became closer
and closer. My mother, at the age of seventy two
whatever something like that, the first time she ever went
to Israel, the first time she ever had a pasa.
When our daughter was in seminary, went to Israel for pacock.
My mother came with me, came with us, and we
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toured around Israel and she had the first paysock of
her life and she loved it, and she loved her
grandchildren and my wife's mother. The last years of her life,
she spent every Shabce with us, and she became a
new person. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (45:01):
And I don't know if I do I have time
to tell you a quick story about my mother.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I sure, go ahead, quick afterwards.
Speaker 13 (45:10):
Okay, so I want to tell you my parents because
of us, they had Jewish burial.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
It's the whole story. But on my mother's first yard.
Speaker 13 (45:19):
Site, I went to the cemetery. The York site was
just a few weeks ago, just after chivous and and
I went to the cemetery, but just me, no one
else in the family. When I was leaving the cemetery,
I said to Hashem hush m, I really think mother
is in aluma AM's the world of truth with you.
Speaker 11 (45:40):
And if she is, I think I had something to
do with it. So I'm just wondering, can I get
like a little report what's going on there? I mean,
you know, So I went home. I didn't say a
word to anybody.
Speaker 13 (45:52):
The next morning, our daughter Miriam, who was then unmarried,
young girl twenty one, she woke up the next morning, Aba,
I had a dream last night. Grandma came to me
in my dream and she was so happy, she was shining.
I got a report from Shamayam and my mother doing
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right up there.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
It's Bane Masaka of or email and there was a
son brings married to the parents. Larry, you're going to
say something.
Speaker 15 (46:24):
I want to say that it's never too late for
a person to make an important change in life. We
were thirty and thirty one years old, married eleven years,
with two children when we totally changed our lives. And
another story I just want to mention is that my
father in law, my husband's father, had always said, I
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don't believe in any religion. Religion is the cause of
all the problems in the world. And then when he
read my husband's third book, twenty twenty Vision, he was
only one hundred and four years old, and he read
it so it so much even every time my husban
would try to visit him and his father would be
deep in the book and he'd look up.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
At him.
Speaker 14 (47:08):
Stopped reading it. Four times he read it, and he loved.
Speaker 15 (47:12):
It so much and was so inspired that he put
onto fill in for the first time in his life
a week before his one hundred and fifth birthday.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Wow. Amazing, And it's never too late. There's important.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
But with your sibling, you have siblings other family members
that they get impacted by your change of life.
Speaker 11 (47:32):
Impacted, but they did not become observed. But I want
to tell you we are very close.
Speaker 13 (47:39):
They have tremendous respect for us and.
Speaker 11 (47:43):
My brother has the most incredible letter in the new
book describing his reaction when we announced to the family
that were changing our lifestyle in nineteen seventy four. You know,
Roy went off the deep end again.
Speaker 13 (47:58):
He thought I really lost it and that I was
pulling the family into.
Speaker 11 (48:03):
Some crazy cult. And at the end of his letter,
it's really touching and beautiful he said, I am very
happy to admit that I was wrong. We have very.
Speaker 13 (48:16):
Wonderful relationships with our siblings, but they have their lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
And we have er Colokovo to you. By the way,
your book twenty twenty vision. Is it possible it could
be made into a movie? You ever thought about that?
Speaker 11 (48:32):
Zeh, that is a story. You could write a book
about that question. Explore that for seven years as the
whole chapter of the new book about it. For seven
years I tried to make it into a movie and
it never happens.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
I'll put you in touch with Nancy Spielberg that she's
making Jewish movies, and we tried to get.
Speaker 11 (48:48):
In touch with her. It has a price tag. We
priced it. We had three screenplays one hundred million dollars.
Because it's such an epic adventure.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Well, if it got made. Who which movie act would
you like to portray you?
Speaker 3 (49:02):
And you?
Speaker 11 (49:03):
I don't know about movie actors, but you know what
I mean. It's an epic. I thought it would be
the and I still think it would be the greatest
story of the world coming in technical or.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Do you have any of who you like to play
you in the movie if it ever gets to come
to Hell?
Speaker 14 (49:18):
Theyen into movies. We tried to make a movie that
would be according.
Speaker 15 (49:24):
To the standards that we needed to uphold, the Tower
standards and by.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
The way, there should be The Christians have Christian movies
based on Christian sander, why can Jews do the same thing?
Speaker 11 (49:37):
Believe me?
Speaker 13 (49:37):
Went to Christians, we went to Jews, We went to Hollywood,
we went to every It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
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never give up.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
We don't give up.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
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And now here's your host.
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And we're back. You know, it's been such a long time.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Ago when we last had Roy Newburger on the air,
and he's written the Fastening Book, then from Central Park
to Sinai, and now we're here together with Roy Newburger,
his wife Lea Linda previously known Linda, and their new
book is about them. They don't write this book, but
somebody else wrote the book. Ruby Knachmann Seltzer's both from
Sinai to Jerusalem, our Jewish are and it continues they
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were both born with silver spoons in their mouths, and they,
in fact, in the case of Roy, had no connection
to Judaism. But now he's a full fledged prouds Jew
and both he and his wife Lea lead a wonderful
Jewish lifestyle, inspiring other people. And we're here to tell
this story. So welcome back. Good to have you join
us again on air.
Speaker 11 (06:39):
We're so happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
As a pleasure, my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So I know you like to be called Roy because
in the book that you've referred to as you Sroll,
but in the headline it's Roy and Lea, You're Linda Lea.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So I noticed that the economy. Should I read anything
into it?
Speaker 11 (06:53):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 13 (06:54):
So the reason I use Roy when I want in public,
when I speak, when I write. But the first book
was aimed at Balichuva, the whole world that I came from.
In that world, if someone sees a book by Yustroel,
a name which I didn't have till I was thirty
years old.
Speaker 11 (07:15):
I didn't have a heap reading name until I was
thirty years old.
Speaker 13 (07:17):
But if someone sees the name you should they're going
to feel that's weird. And so I wanted it to
be a book that everybody could read from that world
that I came from.
Speaker 11 (07:27):
Once I started with the name Roy, I kept the
name Roy for all.
Speaker 13 (07:31):
The books and all the speaking, and that's why I
continue to use Roy to this day.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And also your father was well known in the Wall
Street correct royy.
Speaker 13 (07:41):
But we have different middle initials. He's Roy R. He
was Roy rothschild. I'm Roy Salant that in itself, the
middle names tell you a lot.
Speaker 14 (07:50):
May I just said something on this subject.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Sure that.
Speaker 15 (07:54):
We had in mind with the first book. I'm the
editor of everything that my husband writes. I didn't mind
reaching out to people Jewish people who were not observant
that they should become closer. But it turned out that
the from world loved the book and it helps them
to appreciate what they have and to be inspired to
reach out to others who were like us.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But when you speak, you know I hear brevertson young
Rice and somehow you.
Speaker 11 (08:19):
Speak, you know, that's a compliment.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's the young Rice bless the.
Speaker 15 (08:24):
Memory, totally not conscious, but people tell me that I
hear her when you're speaking.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
We'll talk about the Ester Hung Rights connection. But let
me begin phras with you Roy. Because you grew up,
you had a silver spoon and your father was successful
in Wall Street. You grew up from what I understand
knowing is Zilch about Judy is am I correct less
than Zilch.
Speaker 11 (08:46):
That's the minus Zilch.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Still tell me what did you know? Do you know
what Knica was?
Speaker 11 (08:51):
I tell you I knew nothing. We didn't we had
December twenty fifth is my favorite day of the year.
We had. We didn't know what versus Shauna, you kipper,
he said.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Bit of Christmas, but not Russia.
Speaker 11 (09:01):
Shana, you said it. That is absolutely correct.
Speaker 13 (09:05):
And and but it was amazing because even in this
world where I was living what's called the American dream,
where I really had everything in terms of materialism, I
never from the moment I was conscious. I mean even
as a little kid, I never had a moment I
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knew something was wrong, something was missing.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
And there was a thirty one year search until we
finally found something called Tara. Never heard the word till then.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Now, growing up with anything Jewish, not even hamantash and latkeez, gafilter, fish, bagels,
not even bagels lot, not even bagels.
Speaker 11 (09:49):
I talk about it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You did you know you were Jewish? You know?
Speaker 13 (09:53):
You run from it, you try to hide it. Everybody knows,
the non Jews know you're Jewish. You know you're Jewish,
but you try not to know about it. And we
in our hoever that we grew up in, we tried
not to realize we're Jewish.
Speaker 11 (10:08):
We ran away from it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
But you're roy S standing for Celan. Did you know
Celant growing up that that was your middle initial?
Speaker 11 (10:16):
That would have stood for My grandfather, Aaron B.
Speaker 13 (10:20):
Celant told me when I was a little boy, we
come from a famous rabbi named Israel Solanter.
Speaker 11 (10:27):
I didn't know what it meant. I didn't care what
it meant, and I'm not sure he cared what it meant.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
But the amazing thing is that my mother, who was
a Salant, had this clanter and the shama.
Speaker 11 (10:40):
She didn't know what it meant, but what.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
It meant was that she never had satisfaction in this
affluent world of the Upper East Side of Manhattan. And
I inherited that, and I inherited this spiritual restlessness. And
so the name Solant was working underground and we just
couldn't We couldn't live having that name, but we didn't.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
Know what it meant.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Now, did your mother grow up and also with devoided
Judian did your father grow up with devoided Judaism as
well correct.
Speaker 13 (11:16):
Both born in the US, both born devoid of Judaism.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, Now, you grew up in the affluence.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You went to fields, in the private school, you had
it all silver school.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
My wife the way, I'm sorry you met you. Okay,
we'll talk to little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You'll find out her background, because she spoke at least
had some Mundish in her background.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Both, but I just want to get to her in
just a moment. So you grew up. Did did anybody
else was a Jewish? Had a Jewish contuc were invited
to a bar mitzvahs?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Did you have any association anything that resembled something smacking
of Judaism?
Speaker 11 (11:51):
Really, no, I was. It's a little bit of a joke.
It's a big it's a lot. It is a joke.
Speaker 13 (11:59):
But my cubs out pat when I was like ten
years old, was in the basement of Temple Emmanuel or Reform,
the Reform, you know cathedral in New York.
Speaker 11 (12:09):
But but but, okay, I went. I went to one
bar mitzvah.
Speaker 13 (12:16):
But it was such a joke that it was like
it was like making fun of everything Jewish.
Speaker 11 (12:24):
And so for all practical purpose, for all practical purposes,
I had zero connection with the Jewish world.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Wow, let me turn to you, Lea. You grew up
speaking Yiddish.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Right, not speaking Yiddish, but your.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Parents spoke was spoken there.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
Not in my home, but my mother's parents. They were
from Poland, and they came to America very early, like
in nineteen hundred, and they spoke Ddish in the home.
My mother understood it, she knew how to speak it,
but she didn't speak it to us. And I had
more of a sense of Jewishness. My mother told me
that had we been in Europe i was born and
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I'm not telling my agents, okay, I was born in
nineteen forty four.
Speaker 14 (13:14):
She told me that we would have been in the Holocaust,
and we had.
Speaker 15 (13:17):
There were family members of my on my grandparents' side
that were killed by Hitler, so she told me that.
And my grandfather made a satyr every year. And I
had to stay home from public school in Russia shanam
kip her out of respect. I had a little connection.
And when I went to my friend's we went to
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some var mitzvahs and I heard Samaya so well. I
felt something, but I never We didn't observe at home
at all, not kosher Narkhanaka and nothing really.
Speaker 14 (13:52):
I stayed home from school in.
Speaker 15 (13:53):
Russastoniam Keepper out of respect because there was public schools
where I went that day, but we didn't go to school.
Speaker 14 (14:00):
And I also felt that material.
Speaker 15 (14:03):
Things I had what I needed materially. But you know,
I realized very young, it's not enough to live for.
You get one thing, you're not satisfied. You want the
next thing, you want the next thing, You're.
Speaker 14 (14:14):
Never ever satisfied.
Speaker 15 (14:15):
So I also felt something was missing. There has to
be more to life. There has to be a real
meaning and purpose higher than ourselves, not just live for ourselves.
And when we met very young in high school fifteen
and sixteen years old, ninth and tenth grade, my husband
made me more aware and we have to find it together,
and together we searched for the real thing.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Now you both met the Fieldstone right and which is
a private school. But you both weren't religious. You got
married not religious, correct, And what were you doing right?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Professional?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You didn't go into Wall Street at that point in
tom You followed very successful in Wall Street, but you did.
I believe you liked journalism at least part of the time.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
In beginning, I wanted to be a college professor English
language and literature. I studied literature because you know, I
thought I'm gonna find meaning there.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
But but after a while that didn't work, and and
and and and then.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
We returned to the u we were. We studied in
England for a year in graduate school at Oxford University.
Speaker 13 (15:18):
Then we came back to America. And that's when I
got into the newspaper business I had. I was became
the publisher of a weekly newspaper in the Hudson Valley
near uh near Newburgh, west.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
Point Cornwall on Hudson.
Speaker 13 (15:35):
And I owned a weekly newspaper and I did everything there, reported, photographer, layout, average, you.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Name it, everything and so but you but you didn't
stick with it for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now, you tried other.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Things I did and I didn't. So I'll tell you
an amazing story. I wanted to make this a great newspaper.
So what did I know about newspapers? So then was
there's an organization called the National Newspaper Association all the
weekly newspapers in America. The president of that organization was.
Speaker 11 (16:09):
A guy named Walter Grunfeld.
Speaker 13 (16:12):
He was the nephew of the famous Diane Grunfeld.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
The odd based in in London.
Speaker 13 (16:18):
Walter was a newspaper publisher in Binghamton, New York, and
I became his friend.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
He was the head of this organization, and I told.
Speaker 13 (16:26):
Him one day, Walter, we want to come and learn
from you. Can we spend the day with you? So
we went up to the two of us and spent
the day with Walter.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
At the end of the day we were about ready
to go home. We went to Walter's.
Speaker 13 (16:38):
House coffee six thirty night and he wanted to watch
the news. He turned on the TV and Walter Gruntfeld, this,
this iconic figure, the head of the National Newspaper Association,
is standing in front of the TV and he's crying.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
He's crying, what's going on? It was October nineteen seventy three,
the Young Kipper War, and Walter Grunfelt saying, I can't
believe it. A week ago Isuel was lost.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
Now they general sarm Roons crosses to West Canal. He's
got the Egyptian army surrounded there, marching on Damascus.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
And I'm like, uh oh, yeah, right, I know about that,
all right. I read in the paper there's a war
in the Middle East.
Speaker 13 (17:26):
Somewhere and Walter Grunfeld looks at me and he starts screaming, what.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Kind of a juel are you? What are you made
of stone? Don't you have a heart?
Speaker 13 (17:39):
And those words penetrated me to this day they still penetrate.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
So that's when everything changed.
Speaker 13 (17:48):
A few months later we met Rebinson as to young Rice,
and then after we moved to her husband's community in
Woodmere in New York Long Island. That's when I while
we got out of the newspaper business, that I started
doing other things.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Our guests, you just heard speak with a passion Roy Newburger,
Roy s newburger S stance with salant and he said,
with his wee wife Leah Linda, she used to be known.
And the first time we had him on the air
of the book was called from Central Park to Sinai,
which they wrote themselves. Now that the subject of a
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You just heard speak with a passion, Roy Newburger, Roy
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Very interesting? The first book, first all was written.
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By me, and it's obviously it covers our entire spiritual
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was published twenty three years ago. But a lot happened
since then. We started speaking all over the world. When
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United States. Since then, we've traveled to fifteen countries, spoken
thousands of times, and we've had so many adventures all over.
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The world of every kind you can imagine. So what
Rabbi Selzia wanted to do? First of all, this.
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Book is written from his point of view, and he
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I wrote the first book. But this tells all the
intervening years, hundreds and hundreds of beautiful adventures with Jews
all around the world, and it shows the incredible the fire.
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And I'm asol today people who want to return to
a Jewish way of life.
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All over the world. I mean, you go to Russia,
you can't speak the language. You think, how could this work? Mean?
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I mean, I mean Kiyo, I mean I mean I
mean to Beliee Georgia, I mean Brilint.
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How they I can't even speak their language. And so
we have a translator. It's unbelievable. Words from the heart and.
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To the heart blossom a live. So let me turn
to you, Leah. So your husband gets turned on. The
guy says, what kind of a Jew are you? How
about you? Were you connected at all? The death but
your husband's experience effect you had. You end up with
reverisent Esta, Young Rice and he Nani, which was a
big movement to bring people back to Judaism.
Speaker 15 (24:34):
I was present at that historic moment when the weal
the Gunfeld was screaming at my husband, and both of
us felt those words.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Going through our head. What kind of Jew are you?
What kind of Jew are you? And we had studied
at that point every religion that my husband didn't go.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think, wasn't he weren't he Wasn't he a Buddhist?
Weren't you a Buddhist? At a while?
Speaker 11 (24:59):
Was it everything?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay? Everything we had?
Speaker 14 (25:01):
We put it this way.
Speaker 15 (25:02):
We were we were in college together at the University
of Michigan. And that's the point where my husband didn't mention,
but he felt since we were having issues in our
marriage because we didn't know, we didn't have to it
to tell us.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
How to have a good marriage.
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And he felt very hopeless, and he woke up in
the middle of the night, God, if you near help me. Now,
this is amazing because we had never met anyone who
believed in God, any Jewish people who believed in God.
And for him to say this was major, and all
of a sudden we felt hope and we started to
study every religion except Judaism because our friends of our mitzvahs,
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it was just a party with a good, delicious roast beef,
and you gave a nice check and they never went
back to synagogue again.
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And we said, Judaism is materialism.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
We want something real, something spiritual, a greater meaning and
purpose in life. So we were major students and we
studied all these religions. We studied Buddhism and hindusm Hinduism
and Christianity.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Did you want to convert to Christianity? I read in
the book. Didn't you at one point decide you want
to become Christians?
Speaker 11 (26:06):
We never converted, but you wanted to.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
Well no, I mean we didn't get to the point
of our arting, but we felt very you know, like
like maybe this really is the truth. But then we
felt that we want to be normal people, live in
a community, raise our children.
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With a great spiritual life.
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But we wanted the highest and the best, and the
highest and the best in these other ways of life.
You sit on a mountain top and contemplate you're an asthetic.
You remove yourself from the world, and we knew.
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That wasn't right.
Speaker 14 (26:35):
Brokashem has told us this is not it, this is
not it.
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And then when we went through everything else and our
daughter and mostly non Jewish friends and telling her about
their religion, we decided, and those words what kind of
Jew are you? We decided we better look into our own.
And that's when we went to hear Reverson young Grice.
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But zeb, I just want to tell you, I'm a
little nuts and my wife is so normal.
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Not nuts. My wife is so normal, just intense. Thank you.
It keeps me. I am to normal, she keeps you
that way. But I really believe this stuff was true
until it all turned out to be nothing empty, there's
nothing there. It didn't work.
Speaker 14 (27:20):
But we never went to the services or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We were just studying a few Well, I think I
think in your book, you're right, it's written that you
almost became Christians.
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Something held you back.
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It was I've been to yeah, okay, but yeah. I
wrote a book called Why the Jews Are Wrong and
the Christians are Right, but barjasm I couldn't get it
published and it's all total gibberish, garnished.
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So what happens you meet reverenson ness to young guys
and let's pick up from there.
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That's so simple. There was.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
I was a newspaper publisher. So we heard these words
from Walter Grundfeld, what kind of a Jew are you?
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And they're going through my head. And our oldest daughter
we're about to send to Catholic school and in the
first grade where we lived upstate New York.
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May I explain that though, because it was the best
school in the area and many Jews went there.
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It wasn't that we were converting.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
It was just that it was the best school, and
Jews have to go to the best school, right.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
So I had a newspaper, an advertiser in my paper.
Speaker 13 (28:33):
A beautiful June named Bob Ushman. He owned the hardware
store in Cornwall, New York. And I'm talking to him
one day and these words, what kind of a Jew?
You're going through my head? I said to listen. You know, Bob,
I'm thirty one years old.
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I was never in a synagogue in my life, Like,
what do they do there? So he calls me back
that night. Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 13 (28:55):
We have this evangelist, woman evangelist coming next week to
speak at our at our synagogue.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
You want to come, Okay, will come. And that is
how we met rebiton Ester Young Rice.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
She was had been supposed to come six months earlier,
but she got sick laryngitis, and and and.
Speaker 11 (29:17):
They rescheduled it. And the timing was unbelievable because that was.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
The moment when I realized everything else I've studied is nothing.
Speaker 11 (29:27):
There's nothing there.
Speaker 13 (29:29):
I was like at the bottom Memtesh Shari Tuma and
there was I discussed there's nothing in life, And all
of a sudden at that moment, revertson es to Young
Rice comes and we hear her speak.
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you've ford every religion that you can find, So what
was it that night that you heard that was different
that resonated with you and said this is it.
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I would like to speech.
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I just first want to say that, of course, Reviiton
as to Young Race, was not an a angelis trying to
reach out and teach get people to convert to Judaism.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
That's what evangelists does to get people to converse.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
She was preaching, she was getting people turned on to Judy.
That's what he nty is about Jewish people.
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And yeah, anyway, so she said that night that were
descended from King's prophets, matriarchs, patriarchs. We taught the world
there's a God. We gave morality to the world. We
have our Torah to study and live by day and night.
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We had never heard such words and we were very,
very moved.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
And my husband could.
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This is fine. The only thing I never tried was
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was nothing else we hadn't explored.
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And at that moment God manages the world, you know,
to the micro second, And at that very moment we
met rabbitson young Rice, and all of a sudden we
had we heard something that we knew would fill up.
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We're speaking with your heard. Roy and Leah Neuberger are
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They were start off like not knowing about Judaism and
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So what happens? So did you all of a sudden
become religious. Was it a journey? Did you struggle what
happens next?
Speaker 13 (37:56):
I tell you it was incredible. So we were so
awe struck when we heard her speak that we couldn't
I don't know. I could have nothing to say the
next morning. This is how I work.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
Next morning, it just all jelled, I said. I wrote
her a letter. Rapenson Young writes, if this is true
what you said last night, then there's gotta be another step.
What do we do? She wrote back to I was amazed.
She wrote back to me, and she said, yes, you
have to study Taro.
Speaker 13 (38:24):
You have to come to my classes. Her classes were
at Charit Sea in Brooklyn and.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
The Syrian Jewish shows Ocean Parkway, and it was a.
Speaker 13 (38:34):
Two hour drive for us. There were two problems. Number one,
there was an oil and border after this after the young.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Kipper, what year are we talking about? This is nineteen
seventy four. And where were you living at the time.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
In Cornwall, Upstates?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Cornwall? Okay, Yeah, So.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
We had a two hour drive with and they were
an energy crisis had they.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
Were racing and gas.
Speaker 13 (38:57):
And number two, I had to put the newspaper every
Tuesday night.
Speaker 11 (39:01):
To take it to the printer on Wednesday, and I
stayed up. How could we go? Tuesday night was their
class in Brooklyn.
Speaker 13 (39:07):
And then we looked at each other and we said, look,
you know what, this is life and death. We've got
to go and hear what this lady has to say.
So we turned our whole schedule around. We drove to
Brooklyn with our meager supply of gas every Tuesday night,
and that became the center of our week.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Every week hearing Tarra unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (39:31):
Then a few months later, the IDF called Reverenson, young
Rice rebitson Raban it you have to come to Israel
to speak to the soldiers. And first, you know, her
friends told her they're gonna throw tomatoes, and she.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
What are you going? Anyway? IDF kept calling, calling, Okay,
I'm going. So she took a small group to Israel.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
We never wanted to go to Israel before because we thought,
you know, the Jews stole it from the Arabs.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
But we're hearing all this, but believe you believe that, right,
you believe that the Jews so ok.
Speaker 13 (40:02):
But then we learned we heard Rashi, Okay, whatever, I'm
not going to go to the first Rushi and Hummish.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
We don't have time, but but we found out. We
studied Tarrah. God gave the land to the Jewish people.
All of a sudden, we're Jews. We want to go.
Speaker 13 (40:16):
So we got on the l All plane with her
with Reverensen, young Rice in June of May, June whatever
it was, nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 11 (40:26):
Midnight. We get on the plane and we're going to Israel.
We go to sleep.
Speaker 13 (40:31):
At four in the morning, we hear these noises and
these guys are all getting up.
Speaker 11 (40:37):
And they're putting boxes on their heads. We never saw
Talas and Tillin till we were on l Al the
midnight flight. Wow, a whole in the world.
Speaker 13 (40:51):
We got to Israel and we had our first shabas
at Kibutslavi in the Galiel.
Speaker 11 (40:58):
And as my wife says, all the time, we were
in the peace movement when we were young Liberal college.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
So when you say the peace women, who were you
demonstrating for or against the Vietnam war?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Vietnam War? Okay, that was the big thing then, Okay.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
Right, So we had shabis.
Speaker 13 (41:19):
We never had peace in our lives until we had
shabas at Kibbutzadi. Our second Shabis was in your shalayaan.
We had two weeks living like Jews. It was mind boggling.
We got back to Kennedy Airport, we saw Rebindson, young
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Rice and her father.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
We waved goodbye.
Speaker 13 (41:42):
We drove back to Cornwall on Hudson, and my wife
and I looked at each other.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
And our immediate reaction was, we are out of here.
That's it. You can't live here anymore.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
So what happened with you? We have a little time left.
So now, how did your families react?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Your father?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Your parents were anti I didn't well, I'm going to
guess anti religion. They didn't have any religion.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I'm sure it didn't go over well when you said
I'm becoming an Orthodox Jew.
Speaker 15 (42:10):
Our parents thought crazy that they were hoping it was
temporary insanity, and they thought we went off the deep end.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
They didn't.
Speaker 11 (42:23):
Yeah, we did go off.
Speaker 15 (42:25):
They thought it was archaic, outdated.
Speaker 14 (42:27):
They didn't understand.
Speaker 15 (42:29):
But gradually they saw the beautiful family life. We worked
very hard keep it up, aimed to honor our parents,
and our children were so respectable and nice, and they
loved and adored our children and grandchildren. So gradually they
saw that it's good. I just want to point out
one thing that that made us so inspired by the
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rabbits and now racist classes. In those first days when
we went that we were finally finding out how to
have a good marriage out of research children, how to
understand what's going on in the world. So we went
every week and then, as my husband said, we went
to Israel.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
So then you became religious. Now you tried different professions. Roy,
you were Yeshiva principal right for a while.
Speaker 11 (43:15):
Yeah, general studies, principle more than you know. We mo
THEI kodish because but I don't have the.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Best So he gave up being the newspaperywhere principal. And
then what happened?
Speaker 13 (43:25):
Then I went into Wall Street and I found out
I'm not my father. I share many characteristics of my father,
many of my mother, but I never had my father's
genius in Wall Street.
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So what I realized, it's not my future. My future
is not in the world of business. I was crest forled.
Speaker 13 (43:47):
Rabbi Seltzer described it so beautifully in the new book.
And again I was at a low point, like the bottom,
What am I gonna do? I wasn't a kid anymore.
And then I thought to myself, Wow, maybe you can
write that book you always wanted to write. And that's
when I started writing from Central Park to Sinai and
(44:08):
we had a new career. Our career started I was
fifty two years old, our career of writing and our
career of speaking.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
And it was so beautiful.
Speaker 13 (44:18):
And zeb I want to add also, our parents got
so on board with us.
Speaker 11 (44:23):
As the years ago went by, we went out of
our way to be close to them. We became closer
and closer. My mother, at the age of seventy two
whatever something like that, the first time she ever went
to Israel, the first time she ever had a pasa.
When our daughter was in seminary, went to Israel for pacock.
My mother came with me, came with us, and we
(44:46):
toured around Israel and she had the first paysock of
her life and she loved it, and she loved her
grandchildren and my wife's mother. The last years of her life,
she spent every Shabce with us, and she became a
new person. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 13 (45:01):
And I don't know if I do I have time
to tell you a quick story about my mother.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I sure, go ahead, quick afterwards.
Speaker 13 (45:10):
Okay, so I want to tell you my parents because
of us, they had Jewish burial.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
It's the whole story. But on my mother's first yard.
Speaker 13 (45:19):
Site, I went to the cemetery. The York site was
just a few weeks ago, just after chivous and and
I went to the cemetery, but just me, no one
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I said to Hashem hush m, I really think mother
is in aluma AM's the world of truth with you.
Speaker 11 (45:40):
And if she is, I think I had something to
do with it. So I'm just wondering, can I get
like a little report what's going on there? I mean,
you know, So I went home. I didn't say a
word to anybody.
Speaker 13 (45:52):
The next morning, our daughter Miriam, who was then unmarried,
young girl twenty one, she woke up the next morning, Aba,
I had a dream last night. Grandma came to me
in my dream and she was so happy, she was shining.
I got a report from Shamayam and my mother doing
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right up there.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
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Speaker 15 (46:24):
I want to say that it's never too late for
a person to make an important change in life. We
were thirty and thirty one years old, married eleven years,
with two children when we totally changed our lives. And
another story I just want to mention is that my
father in law, my husband's father, had always said, I
(46:44):
don't believe in any religion. Religion is the cause of
all the problems in the world. And then when he
read my husband's third book, twenty twenty Vision, he was
only one hundred and four years old, and he read
it so it so much even every time my husban
would try to visit him and his father would be
deep in the book and he'd look up.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
At him.
Speaker 14 (47:08):
Stopped reading it. Four times he read it, and he loved.
Speaker 15 (47:12):
It so much and was so inspired that he put
onto fill in for the first time in his life
a week before his one hundred and fifth birthday.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Wow. Amazing, And it's never too late. There's important.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
But with your sibling, you have siblings other family members
that they get impacted by your change of life.
Speaker 11 (47:32):
Impacted, but they did not become observed. But I want
to tell you we are very close.
Speaker 13 (47:39):
They have tremendous respect for us and.
Speaker 11 (47:43):
My brother has the most incredible letter in the new
book describing his reaction when we announced to the family
that were changing our lifestyle in nineteen seventy four. You know,
Roy went off the deep end again.
Speaker 13 (47:58):
He thought I really lost it and that I was
pulling the family into.
Speaker 11 (48:03):
Some crazy cult. And at the end of his letter,
it's really touching and beautiful he said, I am very
happy to admit that I was wrong. We have very.
Speaker 13 (48:16):
Wonderful relationships with our siblings, but they have their lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
And we have er Colokovo to you. By the way,
your book twenty twenty vision. Is it possible it could
be made into a movie? You ever thought about that?
Speaker 11 (48:32):
Zeh, that is a story. You could write a book
about that question. Explore that for seven years as the
whole chapter of the new book about it. For seven
years I tried to make it into a movie and
it never happens.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
I'll put you in touch with Nancy Spielberg that she's
making Jewish movies, and we tried to get.
Speaker 11 (48:48):
In touch with her. It has a price tag. We
priced it. We had three screenplays one hundred million dollars.
Because it's such an epic adventure.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Well, if it got made. Who which movie act would
you like to portray you?
Speaker 3 (49:02):
And you?
Speaker 11 (49:03):
I don't know about movie actors, but you know what
I mean. It's an epic. I thought it would be
the and I still think it would be the greatest
story of the world coming in technical or.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Do you have any of who you like to play
you in the movie if it ever gets to come
to Hell?
Speaker 14 (49:18):
Theyen into movies. We tried to make a movie that
would be according.
Speaker 15 (49:24):
To the standards that we needed to uphold, the Tower
standards and by.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
The way, there should be The Christians have Christian movies
based on Christian sander, why can Jews do the same thing?
Speaker 11 (49:37):
Believe me?
Speaker 13 (49:37):
Went to Christians, we went to Jews, We went to Hollywood,
we went to every It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Don't give up. Roy I heard you say, don't give up,
never give up.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
We don't give up.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
We keep going anyway. Thank both you for being with us.
The roy Yesrola and Leah Newburger. The book is about them.
It's called from signa Jewish Lima or Jewish Durying to Continues.
It's written member jacln Seltzer, published by Art Scroll. I
highly recommend the fascinating book. I enjoyed the first time
we had Central Park to sign and this is a
great continuation whether you read the first book or now
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this other book twenty twenty Vision, it's a great, great
addition to your library.
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