November 13, 2025 • 32 mins
The longest government shutdown in U.S. history has finally ended after weeks of partisan deadlock, primarily over Obamacare. With the shutdown now over, what are the next steps for Congress and the administration? Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews economist Steve Moore. What did Minority Leader Chuck Schumer gain from shutting down the government, and what are the broader economic impacts? The U.S. reportedly lost about $56 billion during the shutdown. Steve also weighs in on inflation, attributing much of the current rise to the Biden administration.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now sor presents no marksmoo. Well, hey, shutdown is over.
We'll go over the details. We'll get to the Epstein
files and the hoax that's taking place. We'll get to
Chuck Schumer, We'll get to Bruce Blakeman, We'll get to
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mom Donnie. There's more to learn about this guy. It's
not good. It's not good at loss to talk about today.
So the shutdown was the longest in history, forty three days.
A year from now, nobody will remember it. Longest one
before that was thirty five days. That was in the
first Trump term. Nobody remembers that the shutdown ended. Trump
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was at a big dinner last night, business leaders dinner
in the East room of the White House. Big dinner
taking place. But while that dinner was going on, the
vote took place. They ended the shutdown. Took the president
a while, about an hour to get out of that dinner,
get to the Oval Office where he had the cabinet,
some of those business leaders, and announced the end of
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the shutdown, signed the legislation that brought it all to
an end. It was a great moment. He was very
happy about that. He pointed out that this little stunt,
the Democrats pulled. This whole shutdown ended up costing America
one point five trillion dollars. What do you call it,
their little escapade, they're a little endeavor. He called it
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something like that cost one point five trillion dollars. Was
one of the reasons for the shutdown was to try
to damage the Trump economy, just wreak a little havoc there,
especially leading up to the election. They thought it would
help them, especially in Virginia where a huge percentage of
voters are government workers. So they thought it would help
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in Virginia, New Jersey and other places, just to have
the shutdown going on, just to rile up Democrats. So
you got to admit it did work. The down is
over now. However, this extension only goes till January thirty first,
so it's like two months before we have to go
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through this again, and we'll see what happens. The fight
over the Affordable Care Act, which is obviously not affordable
since you need a subsidy to have it, you have
to subsidize it, it's obviously not affordable. The President will
come up with a better plan by the time January
thirty first rolls around, and he'll put that plan out.
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One of his ideas is to give it costs so
much money for this Obamacare. The government has to spend
astronomical amounts of money on it, and he figured out
that you could be easier just to give people the
money and let him go buy their own healthcare. That way,
they could pick whatever they wanted and get a much
better plan than you'd get from the governor government. The
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problem is big one for Democrats. The reason they don't
like that. You might say, well, it makes perfect sense,
that sounds like a much better one. The real secret
of Obamacare is the money goes directly to the insurance companies,
not the consumer. Insurance companies love that they get paid
massive fees by the government under Obamacare. That's one of
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the reasons Schumer was fighting to keep it the way.
It is not just Tim but other congressmen and women,
including some Republicans, because by paying off these insurance companies directly,
it means massive donations to them from the insurance companies.
They're big, big, big donors. So Congress was trying to
keep this in place where the money just goes direct
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to the insurance companies. Now the present's going to try
to end that and give it direct to the consumers
and let them pick whatever kind of plan they want.
So that's what this fight was about, in large parts,
affordability thing. Affordabilities has been drilled into everybody's head. That's
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how propaganda works. You just repeat something i'd nauseum from
every direction. If you keep hearing it all day and night,
you start to believe it affordability crisis. It's not a
crisis because inflation is down dramatically from Joe Biden's presidency,
where it hit nine percent at one point round two percent.
Now it's way way down. Energy prices are down. Now
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people will say, well, what about healthcare, that's sort of well,
that's that's not an inflation factor. That's insurance. That's all
caused by other reasons. That's not inflation driving that up.
Even here in New York City, you didn't see the
gas prices come down that much. All around the country,
gas prices are way down, but not so much here
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or California. Well, the reason for that is state, local taxes, fees, penalty,
all kinds of stuff on the gas that's keeping it up.
So it's not an affordability crisis. Prices are down and
going down. I think this is President Trump talking to
Laura Ingram about it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Look at the price of gasoline going from four to
fifty to two fifty two seventy, it's going to be
two dollars gas.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
People want affordable.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, the anthemy is my thing, and we have the
greatest economy in history.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Are Republicans not selling it?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
For Republicans don't talk about it?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, so they need to do a better job on
Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The tags I'll give false talk and the Republicans, and
I say it all the time, Republicans have to talk
about the fact that prices are down.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, that was the Costco Walmart. Walmart just put out
that big study the price of a Thanksgiving dinner will
be twenty five percent less than less than last year.
So you got all those kinds of things. But you're right,
Democrats have to talk about it. You can drill something
into people's heads and they believe it. You remember, all
through the election, from the beginning, all you kept telling
is Curtis can't win. Curtis can't win, No way Curtis
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can win. Well, of course there is. He was as
good as candadate and probably a better candidate in many
ways in the very beginning. But if ten months, if
Curtis can't win every time, everywhere you look, Curtis can't win.
Curtis can't win. Curtis. If you just hear that four
million times, you actually start to believe it, and people
start repeating it. They're like parrots, just repeating what they're
told to repeat. So that's the affordability the State of
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the Union speech. The President will make that in January.
That's where he's got to fix all this. That'll come
before the next shutdown vote. That's where he's got to
get through and really communicate all this to the public. Hey,
let's get to this Epstein stuff for a second. These
Epstein files, they want them released. There's nothing that dramatic,
and there's nothing about Trump in the files. Nothing. And
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remember those files have been in the hands of a
lot of people. It was here at the US Attorney's
Office Southern District. They all saw the files. I've talked
to a lot of people that have seen those files.
It's nothing about Trump and there's nothing There's stuff about
other people in there, but nothing as dramatic as you think.
There was never a client list. Epstein never had any
sex clients. He had a client list, but it was
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for a wealth management fund. As far as the sexual
stuff the girls, it wasn't a business. He didn't charge anybody.
There were no clients. I mean if he came to
his house, there were women there of all ages. By
the way, he's the one that liked the young women's
It looked like a Prince Andrew like young women too.
But here's another thing to remember. Joe Biden had the
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Epstein files in his hands for four years. For four years,
Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, James Cobe, Clapper, Brannan, all these
people had the Epstein files. It belonged to the Biden
Justice Department for four years. They were trying in every
way to stop Donald Trump. At that point, they were
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coming up with every scheme to stop Donald Trump. You
can be sure they looked through the Epstein files. Had
there been one word in there damaging the Trump, they
would have released it the next day. They would They
have a million people that know how to leak it
to the press. It's real easy to do. Had there
been anything that would hurt Trump, they would have used
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it lead up to the election and during the election
they would have used it if there was anything in there.
There's nothing in there about Trump. Now, yesterday, earlier this week,
they put out this again. They leaked it. They leaked
it to reporters. There's victim number one says Trump was
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in the house, that she spent a lot of time
with Trump. Victim number one. That's all they put out.
Victim number one said she was with Trump in the
house and on the plane. Well, they didn't say what
they could have said. Victim number one was Virginia Gouffrey
because the reason they withheld her name. She did multiple
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interviews with law enforcement. She was interrogated and interviewed millions
of times by law enforcement. In every single interview, she
said absolutely nothing happened with Donald Trump. He came to
parties and things at the house, and she said he
was always a total gentleman and very friendly. Nothing ever happened.
She's no longer with us. She died, but she did
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write a book, a long book about everything, and in
the book she says nothing ever happened with Donald Trump.
Nothing ever. So they kept that from you. If you're
watching nightly news like NBC, boy, you really got conned
by them last night. What a fake story victim number one,
so she spent a very delar time with Donald Trump.
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Somewhere at the end of the piece they inserted it
in real quick just for a second. Virginia Goovery said
nothing happened with Donald Trump, but for ten minutes they
made it sound like something bad happen with Donald Trump.
So a complete total hoax. Now, the guy who they've
also has been dragging in this is Michael Wolfe, who
is the lowest form of journalism. I wouldn't even call
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it journalism, a gossip column He's the lowest form of
gossip columnist. He is the most disgusting, creepy guy in
the world. He's put out a couple of books. The
whole business model is just bashing Donald Trump. And he
he'll say anything and everything, most of it not true.
He's been caught in a million things that are not true.
But because he's bashing Donald Trump, they'll put him on MSNBC,
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He'll be on Meet the Press, He'll be on the
ABC Sunday Morning Show. He is the sleaziest, dirtiest gossip columnist.
Don't believe anything he says. Now, Apparently Epstein at one
point was emailing back and forth with this guy. So
they're starting to release all these emails Epstein and him were,
but if you really read the emails, it looks like
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this lowlife, Michael Wolf, this creepy lowlife, was coaching Epstein
on how to damage Trump and at one point suggested
blackmailing Trump because Epstein said he didn't have much of
anything on Trump, and he said, well, if you said
you did, you might. You could use it as leverage
and then take it back and then you'd have he'd
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owe you a favor. He was talking about actually blackmailing
Trump with Epstein. It's really embarrassed in this. It's interesting
the Clinton stuff. You know, obviously the Clinton's, the Obama's
all busy with Epstein, but somewhere in there, Epstein reveals
he had a fight with Clinton. He broke up with
Bill Clinton. He doesn't exactly say what it was, but
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he said to Clinton, I guess Clinton was supposed to
do him some sort of favor, and he swore to
me that he did it, but he forgot. He swore
the exact opposite only two weeks before. So he was
supposed to do something for him, didn't do him. Now.
The other thing is this Epstein seemed to be very
cozy with the New York Times financial journalist, this lowlife
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Michael Wolf. So it's really the journalists that we're dealing
with Epstein, New York Times finance journalist emails back and forth,
you can tell their real buddies, and he's relying heavily
on Epstein. What the hell is the New York Times
doing all tangled up with Epstein? Now, the guy that
should be the most embarrass is Larry Summers, who was
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Bill Clinton's Treasury secretary. He was one of Barack Obama's
chief economic advisors. You'll remember he was the president of Harvard.
Larry Summers, who tries to be this distinguished guy. If
you look through the emails, apparently he was very close
to Epstein. And Larry Summers, a married man, was meeting
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with various women all over the place. Not young girls,
but women who he's trying to do something with and
apparently was having trouble. He was getting rejected left and
right by women, and he's constantly emailing Epstein for advice,
and there's emails back and forth. He's like a teenager
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Larry Summers right in Epstein. Well, here's what she wrote,
she texted me, can't I'm busy. I'll call you next week.
What does that mean? And then Epstein is emailing him back.
He's just play it cool, don't whine, don't look me,
don't look good. And then apparently supposed to spend a
weekend with one woman in London and she canceled and
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what does that mean? How can I get any And
Epstein's coach him, don't say this say that's quite pathetic
on the part of Larry Summers. He should really be embarrassed.
He you know Ozzy Osbourne, We lost Ozzy Osbourne. Sharon
Osbourne finally revealed this for everybody to hear. She didn't
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really know Donald Trump. Well, I mean not really, but
he got her number and he left her a voicemail.
This is Donald Trump leaving a voicemail for Sharon Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Everyone will know.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I shared is Donald Trump, and I just wanted to
wish you the best and the family have great. Ozzie
was amazing. He was an amazing guy. I met him
a few times and I want to say that he
was unique in every way and talented. So I just
wanted to wish you the best. And it's a tough thing.
I know how close you were, and whenever I can do,
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take care of yourself, say loo to the family.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Thanks by Well, now they're playing it with Sharon Osbourne.
There you see her tear up listening to it. It
was very nice. He does that all the time for people.
You're not supposed to know about that, because the press
would never ever report that. Hey, we'll get to Bruce Blakeman.
Apparently he's taking it seriously this run for government. He's
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gonna even go on a little tour upstate, which is
a good idea. That's what a smart guy does. You know,
you go test the waters.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You go.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You don't just sit there and decide should I shouldn't I.
You go up there and you meet voters, you see
how it feels, You get a feel for things. That's
that's what a smart manager would do. But we'll get
to that coming up. We'll get to mom Donnie, his transition,
what he's working on. Boy, even the Washington Post, even
the Washington Post bashing Mom Donnie, talking about how phony
he was, this smiling, happy, and you know candidate and
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then that angry, ugly victory speech election. But we'll take
some calls next eight hundred three to two one zero
seven ten is the number eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Now back to the Mark Simone Show on wr.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Hey, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten is and the I'm let's go to
Bob in Montvale, New Jersey. Bob, how you doing good?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Mark?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Thanks for taking my call. And just as an awareness,
I hope everybody's okay on the Red Cup. But Thursday
there's a big rally in Brooklyn later on today, course
they're on strike.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Union? No coffee? Old Starbucks? Oh oh, I hope it's
going to be extra angry libs out there today. Be
careful please.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh well, what would you say, Red Cup?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
It's today? Is there?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Red Cup?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Thursday day that they kick off their holiday and the
baristas are on strike? Yeah, of course, I guess thirty
dollars an hour isn't enough and they don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, that's a good point. You know. I gave up
on Starbucks. Actually since we moved into our new place
here because the kitchen is right down there, we got
like twelve different coffee machines and make you any kind
of coffee you want it's free. They got like forty
seven different brands of coffee you can choose. And I
imagine a lot of people where they go to work
in a nice, big office, but the coffee's free. Why
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would just stand in line at Starbucks and pay twelve
dollars or something? And it's like getting coffee from the
motor vehicle department. You wait in line, Finally you get
up there, you place your order. Now they say, all right,
now go over there and wait in that line to
go get it. It's like motor vehicle, here's your temporary coffee.
You'll get the real coffee in that line over there.
It's absolutely ridiculous. And you always get in the line
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behind that one guy with the most complicated order, and
it takes forever. And you know, and they have food
at Starbucks. But you notice the food case got smaller.
It used to be like the whole counter. Now it's
like a little tiny section. And it's avoid Starbucks. There's
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you know, there's all these other places springing up. What's
the one over there? I can't remember. There's one right
across the street, blank Street. Blank Street is a great
one that they're springing up all over the place. Gregory's
coffee is pretty good. Hey, and dunkin Donuts. Dunkin Donuts
has much better coffee than Starbucks. It tastes much better
than Starbucks. I mean I wouldn't exactly hire their decorator.
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I mean, they're the most depressing looking stories you've ever seen.
But the coffee is great. It's probably the best coffee
you yet dunkin Donuts. It's one tenth the price of Starbucks.
And everybody that works there looks like they're gonna kill
themselves as soon as you leave. They don't look too thrilled.
But but it's much better coffee. Let's go to Aaron
in Indianapolis. Erin, how you doing, Good morning, Mark.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I'm sure you saw some of the clips of Gavin
Newsom partying with the indigenous folks in Brazil.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, listen, let the guy enjoy himself.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, my point is that I think he should return
the favor and treat them to the French Laundry.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, that's a famous Thomas Keller restaurant out in California
in the middle of the pandemic, when you were not
allowed to go to a restaurant. He was seen at
the French laundry, which is it doesn't sound very good,
the French laundry, but it's one of the most expensive,
one of maybe the ten best restaurants in the world.
And there he was. Now this other problem is his
campaign director got caught embezzling funds a quarter of a
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million dollars. It's not his fault, Gavin Newsom, and there's
no governor or candidate goes line by line over the
accounting stuff. But it's the guy he picked, so reflects
on him. Let's go to Dave in Chicago. Dave, how
you doing. Good morning, Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I'm doing very well.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
We all know that Chuck Schumer's career was over, as
well as his fake Sunday press conferences. So I have
to ask, first of all, if he writes a book,
will he go on the Liberal network to promote it? Secondly,
will he get hired as a commentary And when people
touches him and Kamala Harris write books, are they artificially
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inflated for The New York Times by having people buying
thousands of copies?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, that can be done. All good questions. If Chuck
Schumer writes a book, nothing will happen nobody will buy it.
We just tested that about six months ago. Remember he
wrote that book, what's it called anti Semitism. Here's the
guy who looks the other way when the worst anti Semitism,
the most frightening anti Semitism, was taking place on our
college campuses in his district, and he looked the other way.
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He left town, ran away. Then he has a gall
to write a book called anti Semitism. It didn't sell.
He's a disaster. No, he cannot get a job as
a TV commentator because he's an old, depressing, fossil old
dinosaur who just sounds awful talking. That's why he always
reads everything off these index cards. It's what's the other question?
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If he leaves, you know, if he leaves as bad
as he is, you can get somebody worse as senate
to minority leader. You're going to get like a Chris Murphy,
that real dirty, you know, lying, thieving, rotten Connecticut senator.
And then you, speaking of Connecticut, you guys got Richard Blumenthal.
He's your Chuck Schumer. Just depressing old man. Let's let's
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go to Jimmy and New Milford. Jimmy, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Thanks, Good morning, Mark, Mark, you know the way you
were saying that. Every time it turned around, people were
saying that Curtis can't, when Curtis can't, when Curtis can't win.
You know, I love w All and I love the DJs,
but the problem is, I think when they always have
to repeat.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
For every day.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You know, the nuts are saying about Donald Trump. You
know you got to say, uh is they have to
say to the lad who say if he did, they
have to be paid to make the point. You know, whoa,
look at what they're shay, whoa. But I'm so sick.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Do you know what he said? I don't know what
he said. He's said to cut He's got a good voice.
It said something catchy about his way. You like listening
to him. But I have no idea what you're talking about.
But and did he say? The DJs at w R.
I think the last DJ here I'm trying to remember, well,
it would have been somewhere in John Gambling. I think
he used to play music. Gene Clavin used to be
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here in the afternoons. He played music, But I think
that was in the late seventies. So I don't think
we've had a DJ since then when we come back,
we'll see if we can talk to Steve Moore. I
think he'll show up. Steve Moore, the Brilliant Economists will
be with us next on seven to ten w o R.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Welcome back to the Mark Simone Show seven ten wo R.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Hey, the great economist Steve Moore. Make sure you get
his new book. His latest book is The Trump Economic Miracle.
It's an excellent book. Also, make sure you sign up
for his daily briefing. It's called the Hotline. You go
to Unleash Prosperity dot com Unleashed Prosperity dot com and
you'll get the best daily briefing, news analysis. It's free.
(22:19):
It comes right to your meil. Just sign up for
it Unleash Prosperity dot com. Steve Moore, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Hey, Mark, Good to be with you now.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I'm not doing well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I spent so much time in the last four days
at the airport. This flight castle, that flight castle, you know, delays.
It's just been a complete avoc and now I hear
that it's probably going to go on for even another
two weeks, even now that they're finally about to reopen
the government. It's just been chaotic. And by the way, Mark,
what exactly did Chuck Schumer achieve from this? I mean
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really nothing. I mean it was fifty six billion dollars
of lost taxpayer money cause mayhem, turmoil, frustration for people
in the country and he got nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, did he get nothing? Or was the whole idea
just to screw up the Trump economy a little, maybe
screw up the.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Old Well maybe that would be a very nefarious motivation,
you know, if he intentionally sabotaged the economy to make
Trump look bad. But I guess that's what politicians do
this these days. And you know, shame on him because
it really did ruin our whole weekend. My wife and
I were gonna have a little retreat, you know, get
away for three or four days. We spent half the
weekend in the airports and people were so angry all over,
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you know, everywhere we went. And what a way to
score political points is to is to inconvenience people all
over the country.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Well, if you look back fourteen shutdowns, no party has
ever gained anything from a shutdown. The shutdown caucuses, oh
for fourteen, isn't it. It never does anything?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, that's right, and what and by the way, you
know what what what Chucky Schumer wanted was to you know,
allow the legal immigrants to get help benefits, to add
one hundred and fifty billion dollars a year in cost
to the federal government when we're already running two trillion
dollar deficits. I mean, it was outrageous demands and he
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was basically holding the government hostage until in Trump, to
his credit, did not blink. Here he said, you know,
screw you, We're we're not going to cave into your blackmail.
And I think Americans should be very angry about what happened.
And that's fifty six to sixty billion dollars billion with
a B that was lost to taxpayers because of the
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cost of the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now, Steve Moore, am, I right, Obamacare is a total failure.
If it wasn't, why would you need If it's affordable,
why would you need subsidies?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know it is it would be hard to come
up with something stupider than what we have today. And more,
it's so expensive we pay through the WAHOO with all
of these costs, and by since we passed Obamacare, which
was supposed to be the affordable care Act, the cost
of health insurance is doubled and tripled for most Americans.
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You know, it's costing the average family now thirty thousand
dollars a year for healthcare. That's a lot of money.
And so we've got to figure out a better way
to do this. Trump has some very good ideas. I mean,
you know, let's just move to more of a catastrophic
insurance model, where you would you know, for the first say,
five thousand dollars of costs, you know, you just pay
out of pocket, but you're not going to pay thirty
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thousand dollars a year for insurance, and everybody would come
out ahead. I mean, when you go to the doctor
or the hospital mark, you know, do you ask what
it's going to cost?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, nobody does, and then you're in there for five
minutes and the bills forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah. I mean, can you imagine if we all went
to the grocery store and didn't pay for it. Yeah,
I'd have lobster and steak and champagne every night.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah. But the real reason for this is Obamacare and
the reason Democrats fight to keep it. The money goes
directly to the insurance companies from the government. Yes, so
what do we do about that? How are you going
to break that model? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
The insurance companies have become the real villains here. So
when they know they wanted these expansions of Obamacare subsidies,
which is going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars,
guess where seventy percent of the money goes.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Insurance companies.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, insurance companies. They just put in the bank. They're
making so much money hand over fists, and they were
the chief lobbyert. They were the group that, more than
any other group on Capitol Hill was lobbying for these
extensions because they have made a fortune off of Obamacare,
whereas there's no evidence that Obamacare has had any positive
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impact on people's health.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Hey, Steve Moore, let me ask you another question. If
you are watching TV, listening to radio, reading stuff, going
to the news sets, and all you hear about is
the affordability crisis. This is all you hear a thousand
times an hour, You're going to start to think there
is an affordability crisis. It propaganda works that way.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, there is an affordability crisis, There's no question about it.
I mean, prices are up, you know, thirty percent since
Joe Biden was present. Thirty percent. It's unbelievable. Now, guess
what twenty five percent of that thirty percent was under Biden.
I mean, you know, so I'm angry about the cost
of groceries. I'm angry about the cost of you know,
buying things today. It's health insurance costs, housing cost, grocery
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costs up up, up, up up. But folks, remember, the
vast majority of this insurance, of this inflation and higher
costs and higher interest rates was under Biden because he's
spent about five trillion dollars we didn't have with this
massive spending spree. So we are seeing costs come down.
I mean, you know, the rate of inflation come down.
It was remember when it hit nine point one percent
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under in place under Biden, and that was in I
think twenty twenty one, twenty two. You know, now it's
down to about two point eight percent, which is still
too high. You know, we'd like to bring it down
some more. But Trump is doing that. The inflation rate
is coming down. But remember, you know, he's only been
in office for nine months, and Biden, we just blew
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a hole in the budget in the inflation rate, and
it's going to take some time. But by the way,
I was traveling last week, as I mentioned, and I
was in the Midwest for a couple of days, two
sixty nine a gallon for gas. Yeah, that's the last
time you saw that.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, we don't see it in New York at California,
but in between, gas prices are ready now. And I mean,
it's just a mess. But inflation is down since Trump
took over, and you always said it is done. You
always say it's going to take him a year or
so to really fix the problem. So we're only about
halfway there, right.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Right, And but look, we have the numbers, and what's
happened to people's real income. In other words, when you
take inflation into account, people things are more affordable today
for most people, not less affordable. So the average family
has about twelve hundred dollars more after inflation income. Another
point I want to make about this is that, you know,
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the big beautiful tax we passed, most Americans have not
felt the effect of that yet because they didn't change
their withholding on their taxes. So what that means, and
Trump has made this point, you know several times. Next year.
Next year people are going to see a big reduction
and the taxes withheld from their paychecks because they didn't
do it this year. So you know, relief is coming folks.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah. Hey, Steve Moore in Florida, Ron DeSantis, he's talking
about getting rid of property tax, and he's saying that
everybody should, everywhere, every state, get rid of property tax.
And he makes the point, it's your land, you own it.
How's the government taxing.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You on this?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But then what do you do to make up for
that needed money? You have growth?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know, I mean Florida has imported one trillion dollars
of capital from and disposable income from other states. And
guess where most of that money is coming from. No,
I don't tell us New York, New York, New York
and California. And so they have so much money coming
in that they're able to cut their you know, Florida
has no income tax, and now they're cutting their property tax.
(30:05):
They've cut this tax, that tax. The only tax that's
kind of high in there are sales tax, but everything
else is pretty low. It's a very affordable state. That's
the other thing about the affordability issue, mark that you
were asking me about. Yeah, if you live in New York,
everything's expensive. If you move to a red state, things
cost a lot less. Why because they have high taxes
in the Blue states, they have high regulations, they have
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you know, energy costs are much higher in the Blue states.
So if you want more affordability and you want your
paycheck to go further, move to a red state.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm not leaving. I'm staying right here.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
How do you I know you're not.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know, we need you there in New York and
that in Northeast. But a lot of people are and
the problem is that that tide will increase dramatically. At
a piece of New York Post on this the other
day that you know, if mom and Dami does what
he said he's going to do and continues to raise
the tax rate, you know, I think sixteen percent they want, Well,
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you can go to Florida or Texas pay zero. You know,
people don't get rich by being stupid, right, And they're
not stupid if they see, hey, I could pay sixteen
percent in New York or zero in Florida. What do
you think you'd do, especially if you're a billionaire. I
could save one hundred million dollars a year by moving
to you know, Florida. Unfortunately, a lot of the billionaires
are going to leave. And then who's Mondomini going to
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get the tax money from.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, at least he's going to solve the traffic problem.
The good luck will be bred.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
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Speaker 3 (31:52):
Okay, Mark, have a great weekend here.
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Now sor presents no marksmoo. Well, hey, shutdown is over.
We'll go over the details. We'll get to the Epstein
files and the hoax that's taking place. We'll get to
Chuck Schumer, We'll get to Bruce Blakeman, We'll get to
(00:21):
mom Donnie. There's more to learn about this guy. It's
not good. It's not good at loss to talk about today.
So the shutdown was the longest in history, forty three days.
A year from now, nobody will remember it. Longest one
before that was thirty five days. That was in the
first Trump term. Nobody remembers that the shutdown ended. Trump
(00:45):
was at a big dinner last night, business leaders dinner
in the East room of the White House. Big dinner
taking place. But while that dinner was going on, the
vote took place. They ended the shutdown. Took the president
a while, about an hour to get out of that dinner,
get to the Oval Office where he had the cabinet,
some of those business leaders, and announced the end of
(01:06):
the shutdown, signed the legislation that brought it all to
an end. It was a great moment. He was very
happy about that. He pointed out that this little stunt,
the Democrats pulled. This whole shutdown ended up costing America
one point five trillion dollars. What do you call it,
their little escapade, they're a little endeavor. He called it
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something like that cost one point five trillion dollars. Was
one of the reasons for the shutdown was to try
to damage the Trump economy, just wreak a little havoc there,
especially leading up to the election. They thought it would
help them, especially in Virginia where a huge percentage of
voters are government workers. So they thought it would help
(01:49):
in Virginia, New Jersey and other places, just to have
the shutdown going on, just to rile up Democrats. So
you got to admit it did work. The down is
over now. However, this extension only goes till January thirty first,
so it's like two months before we have to go
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through this again, and we'll see what happens. The fight
over the Affordable Care Act, which is obviously not affordable
since you need a subsidy to have it, you have
to subsidize it, it's obviously not affordable. The President will
come up with a better plan by the time January
thirty first rolls around, and he'll put that plan out.
(02:31):
One of his ideas is to give it costs so
much money for this Obamacare. The government has to spend
astronomical amounts of money on it, and he figured out
that you could be easier just to give people the
money and let him go buy their own healthcare. That way,
they could pick whatever they wanted and get a much
better plan than you'd get from the governor government. The
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problem is big one for Democrats. The reason they don't
like that. You might say, well, it makes perfect sense,
that sounds like a much better one. The real secret
of Obamacare is the money goes directly to the insurance companies,
not the consumer. Insurance companies love that they get paid
massive fees by the government under Obamacare. That's one of
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the reasons Schumer was fighting to keep it the way.
It is not just Tim but other congressmen and women,
including some Republicans, because by paying off these insurance companies directly,
it means massive donations to them from the insurance companies.
They're big, big, big donors. So Congress was trying to
keep this in place where the money just goes direct
(03:35):
to the insurance companies. Now the present's going to try
to end that and give it direct to the consumers
and let them pick whatever kind of plan they want.
So that's what this fight was about, in large parts,
affordability thing. Affordabilities has been drilled into everybody's head. That's
(03:56):
how propaganda works. You just repeat something i'd nauseum from
every direction. If you keep hearing it all day and night,
you start to believe it affordability crisis. It's not a
crisis because inflation is down dramatically from Joe Biden's presidency,
where it hit nine percent at one point round two percent.
Now it's way way down. Energy prices are down. Now
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people will say, well, what about healthcare, that's sort of well,
that's that's not an inflation factor. That's insurance. That's all
caused by other reasons. That's not inflation driving that up.
Even here in New York City, you didn't see the
gas prices come down that much. All around the country,
gas prices are way down, but not so much here
(04:39):
or California. Well, the reason for that is state, local taxes, fees, penalty,
all kinds of stuff on the gas that's keeping it up.
So it's not an affordability crisis. Prices are down and
going down. I think this is President Trump talking to
Laura Ingram about it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Look at the price of gasoline going from four to
fifty to two fifty two seventy, it's going to be
two dollars gas.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
People want affordable.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, the anthemy is my thing, and we have the
greatest economy in history.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Are Republicans not selling it?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
For Republicans don't talk about it?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, so they need to do a better job on
Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The tags I'll give false talk and the Republicans, and
I say it all the time, Republicans have to talk
about the fact that prices are down.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, that was the Costco Walmart. Walmart just put out
that big study the price of a Thanksgiving dinner will
be twenty five percent less than less than last year.
So you got all those kinds of things. But you're right,
Democrats have to talk about it. You can drill something
into people's heads and they believe it. You remember, all
through the election, from the beginning, all you kept telling
is Curtis can't win. Curtis can't win, No way Curtis
(05:45):
can win. Well, of course there is. He was as
good as candadate and probably a better candidate in many
ways in the very beginning. But if ten months, if
Curtis can't win every time, everywhere you look, Curtis can't win.
Curtis can't win. Curtis. If you just hear that four
million times, you actually start to believe it, and people
start repeating it. They're like parrots, just repeating what they're
told to repeat. So that's the affordability the State of
(06:08):
the Union speech. The President will make that in January.
That's where he's got to fix all this. That'll come
before the next shutdown vote. That's where he's got to
get through and really communicate all this to the public. Hey,
let's get to this Epstein stuff for a second. These
Epstein files, they want them released. There's nothing that dramatic,
and there's nothing about Trump in the files. Nothing. And
(06:30):
remember those files have been in the hands of a
lot of people. It was here at the US Attorney's
Office Southern District. They all saw the files. I've talked
to a lot of people that have seen those files.
It's nothing about Trump and there's nothing There's stuff about
other people in there, but nothing as dramatic as you think.
There was never a client list. Epstein never had any
sex clients. He had a client list, but it was
(06:53):
for a wealth management fund. As far as the sexual
stuff the girls, it wasn't a business. He didn't charge anybody.
There were no clients. I mean if he came to
his house, there were women there of all ages. By
the way, he's the one that liked the young women's
It looked like a Prince Andrew like young women too.
But here's another thing to remember. Joe Biden had the
(07:15):
Epstein files in his hands for four years. For four years,
Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, James Cobe, Clapper, Brannan, all these
people had the Epstein files. It belonged to the Biden
Justice Department for four years. They were trying in every
way to stop Donald Trump. At that point, they were
(07:36):
coming up with every scheme to stop Donald Trump. You
can be sure they looked through the Epstein files. Had
there been one word in there damaging the Trump, they
would have released it the next day. They would They
have a million people that know how to leak it
to the press. It's real easy to do. Had there
been anything that would hurt Trump, they would have used
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it lead up to the election and during the election
they would have used it if there was anything in there.
There's nothing in there about Trump. Now, yesterday, earlier this week,
they put out this again. They leaked it. They leaked
it to reporters. There's victim number one says Trump was
(08:19):
in the house, that she spent a lot of time
with Trump. Victim number one. That's all they put out.
Victim number one said she was with Trump in the
house and on the plane. Well, they didn't say what
they could have said. Victim number one was Virginia Gouffrey
because the reason they withheld her name. She did multiple
(08:41):
interviews with law enforcement. She was interrogated and interviewed millions
of times by law enforcement. In every single interview, she
said absolutely nothing happened with Donald Trump. He came to
parties and things at the house, and she said he
was always a total gentleman and very friendly. Nothing ever happened.
She's no longer with us. She died, but she did
(09:02):
write a book, a long book about everything, and in
the book she says nothing ever happened with Donald Trump.
Nothing ever. So they kept that from you. If you're
watching nightly news like NBC, boy, you really got conned
by them last night. What a fake story victim number one,
so she spent a very delar time with Donald Trump.
(09:24):
Somewhere at the end of the piece they inserted it
in real quick just for a second. Virginia Goovery said
nothing happened with Donald Trump, but for ten minutes they
made it sound like something bad happen with Donald Trump.
So a complete total hoax. Now, the guy who they've
also has been dragging in this is Michael Wolfe, who
is the lowest form of journalism. I wouldn't even call
(09:49):
it journalism, a gossip column He's the lowest form of
gossip columnist. He is the most disgusting, creepy guy in
the world. He's put out a couple of books. The
whole business model is just bashing Donald Trump. And he
he'll say anything and everything, most of it not true.
He's been caught in a million things that are not true.
But because he's bashing Donald Trump, they'll put him on MSNBC,
(10:12):
He'll be on Meet the Press, He'll be on the
ABC Sunday Morning Show. He is the sleaziest, dirtiest gossip columnist.
Don't believe anything he says. Now, Apparently Epstein at one
point was emailing back and forth with this guy. So
they're starting to release all these emails Epstein and him were,
but if you really read the emails, it looks like
(10:34):
this lowlife, Michael Wolf, this creepy lowlife, was coaching Epstein
on how to damage Trump and at one point suggested
blackmailing Trump because Epstein said he didn't have much of
anything on Trump, and he said, well, if you said
you did, you might. You could use it as leverage
and then take it back and then you'd have he'd
(10:55):
owe you a favor. He was talking about actually blackmailing
Trump with Epstein. It's really embarrassed in this. It's interesting
the Clinton stuff. You know, obviously the Clinton's, the Obama's
all busy with Epstein, but somewhere in there, Epstein reveals
he had a fight with Clinton. He broke up with
Bill Clinton. He doesn't exactly say what it was, but
(11:18):
he said to Clinton, I guess Clinton was supposed to
do him some sort of favor, and he swore to
me that he did it, but he forgot. He swore
the exact opposite only two weeks before. So he was
supposed to do something for him, didn't do him. Now.
The other thing is this Epstein seemed to be very
cozy with the New York Times financial journalist, this lowlife
(11:42):
Michael Wolf. So it's really the journalists that we're dealing
with Epstein, New York Times finance journalist emails back and forth,
you can tell their real buddies, and he's relying heavily
on Epstein. What the hell is the New York Times
doing all tangled up with Epstein? Now, the guy that
should be the most embarrass is Larry Summers, who was
(12:02):
Bill Clinton's Treasury secretary. He was one of Barack Obama's
chief economic advisors. You'll remember he was the president of Harvard.
Larry Summers, who tries to be this distinguished guy. If
you look through the emails, apparently he was very close
to Epstein. And Larry Summers, a married man, was meeting
(12:24):
with various women all over the place. Not young girls,
but women who he's trying to do something with and
apparently was having trouble. He was getting rejected left and
right by women, and he's constantly emailing Epstein for advice,
and there's emails back and forth. He's like a teenager
(12:45):
Larry Summers right in Epstein. Well, here's what she wrote,
she texted me, can't I'm busy. I'll call you next week.
What does that mean? And then Epstein is emailing him back.
He's just play it cool, don't whine, don't look me,
don't look good. And then apparently supposed to spend a
weekend with one woman in London and she canceled and
(13:06):
what does that mean? How can I get any And
Epstein's coach him, don't say this say that's quite pathetic
on the part of Larry Summers. He should really be embarrassed.
He you know Ozzy Osbourne, We lost Ozzy Osbourne. Sharon
Osbourne finally revealed this for everybody to hear. She didn't
(13:26):
really know Donald Trump. Well, I mean not really, but
he got her number and he left her a voicemail.
This is Donald Trump leaving a voicemail for Sharon Osbourne.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Everyone will know.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I shared is Donald Trump, and I just wanted to
wish you the best and the family have great. Ozzie
was amazing. He was an amazing guy. I met him
a few times and I want to say that he
was unique in every way and talented. So I just
wanted to wish you the best. And it's a tough thing.
I know how close you were, and whenever I can do,
(14:01):
take care of yourself, say loo to the family.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Thanks by Well, now they're playing it with Sharon Osbourne.
There you see her tear up listening to it. It
was very nice. He does that all the time for people.
You're not supposed to know about that, because the press
would never ever report that. Hey, we'll get to Bruce Blakeman.
Apparently he's taking it seriously this run for government. He's
(14:24):
gonna even go on a little tour upstate, which is
a good idea. That's what a smart guy does. You know,
you go test the waters.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You go.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You don't just sit there and decide should I shouldn't I.
You go up there and you meet voters, you see
how it feels, You get a feel for things. That's
that's what a smart manager would do. But we'll get
to that coming up. We'll get to mom Donnie, his transition,
what he's working on. Boy, even the Washington Post, even
the Washington Post bashing Mom Donnie, talking about how phony
he was, this smiling, happy, and you know candidate and
(14:54):
then that angry, ugly victory speech election. But we'll take
some calls next eight hundred three to two one zero
seven ten is the number eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Now back to the Mark Simone Show on wr.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Hey, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten is and the I'm let's go to
Bob in Montvale, New Jersey. Bob, how you doing good?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Mark?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Thanks for taking my call. And just as an awareness,
I hope everybody's okay on the Red Cup. But Thursday
there's a big rally in Brooklyn later on today, course
they're on strike.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Union? No coffee? Old Starbucks? Oh oh, I hope it's
going to be extra angry libs out there today. Be
careful please.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh well, what would you say, Red Cup?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
It's today? Is there?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Red Cup?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Thursday day that they kick off their holiday and the
baristas are on strike? Yeah, of course, I guess thirty
dollars an hour isn't enough and they don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, that's a good point. You know. I gave up
on Starbucks. Actually since we moved into our new place
here because the kitchen is right down there, we got
like twelve different coffee machines and make you any kind
of coffee you want it's free. They got like forty
seven different brands of coffee you can choose. And I
imagine a lot of people where they go to work
in a nice, big office, but the coffee's free. Why
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would just stand in line at Starbucks and pay twelve
dollars or something? And it's like getting coffee from the
motor vehicle department. You wait in line, Finally you get
up there, you place your order. Now they say, all right,
now go over there and wait in that line to
go get it. It's like motor vehicle, here's your temporary coffee.
You'll get the real coffee in that line over there.
It's absolutely ridiculous. And you always get in the line
(16:43):
behind that one guy with the most complicated order, and
it takes forever. And you know, and they have food
at Starbucks. But you notice the food case got smaller.
It used to be like the whole counter. Now it's
like a little tiny section. And it's avoid Starbucks. There's
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you know, there's all these other places springing up. What's
the one over there? I can't remember. There's one right
across the street, blank Street. Blank Street is a great
one that they're springing up all over the place. Gregory's
coffee is pretty good. Hey, and dunkin Donuts. Dunkin Donuts
has much better coffee than Starbucks. It tastes much better
than Starbucks. I mean I wouldn't exactly hire their decorator.
(17:26):
I mean, they're the most depressing looking stories you've ever seen.
But the coffee is great. It's probably the best coffee
you yet dunkin Donuts. It's one tenth the price of Starbucks.
And everybody that works there looks like they're gonna kill
themselves as soon as you leave. They don't look too thrilled.
But but it's much better coffee. Let's go to Aaron
in Indianapolis. Erin, how you doing, Good morning, Mark.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I'm sure you saw some of the clips of Gavin
Newsom partying with the indigenous folks in Brazil.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, listen, let the guy enjoy himself.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, my point is that I think he should return
the favor and treat them to the French Laundry.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, that's a famous Thomas Keller restaurant out in California
in the middle of the pandemic, when you were not
allowed to go to a restaurant. He was seen at
the French laundry, which is it doesn't sound very good,
the French laundry, but it's one of the most expensive,
one of maybe the ten best restaurants in the world.
And there he was. Now this other problem is his
campaign director got caught embezzling funds a quarter of a
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million dollars. It's not his fault, Gavin Newsom, and there's
no governor or candidate goes line by line over the
accounting stuff. But it's the guy he picked, so reflects
on him. Let's go to Dave in Chicago. Dave, how
you doing. Good morning, Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I'm doing very well.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
We all know that Chuck Schumer's career was over, as
well as his fake Sunday press conferences. So I have
to ask, first of all, if he writes a book,
will he go on the Liberal network to promote it? Secondly,
will he get hired as a commentary And when people
touches him and Kamala Harris write books, are they artificially
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inflated for The New York Times by having people buying
thousands of copies?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, that can be done. All good questions. If Chuck
Schumer writes a book, nothing will happen nobody will buy it.
We just tested that about six months ago. Remember he
wrote that book, what's it called anti Semitism. Here's the
guy who looks the other way when the worst anti Semitism,
the most frightening anti Semitism, was taking place on our
college campuses in his district, and he looked the other way.
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He left town, ran away. Then he has a gall
to write a book called anti Semitism. It didn't sell.
He's a disaster. No, he cannot get a job as
a TV commentator because he's an old, depressing, fossil old
dinosaur who just sounds awful talking. That's why he always
reads everything off these index cards. It's what's the other question?
(20:02):
If he leaves, you know, if he leaves as bad
as he is, you can get somebody worse as senate
to minority leader. You're going to get like a Chris Murphy,
that real dirty, you know, lying, thieving, rotten Connecticut senator.
And then you, speaking of Connecticut, you guys got Richard Blumenthal.
He's your Chuck Schumer. Just depressing old man. Let's let's
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go to Jimmy and New Milford. Jimmy, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Thanks, Good morning, Mark, Mark, you know the way you
were saying that. Every time it turned around, people were
saying that Curtis can't, when Curtis can't, when Curtis can't win.
You know, I love w All and I love the DJs,
but the problem is, I think when they always have
to repeat.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
For every day.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You know, the nuts are saying about Donald Trump. You
know you got to say, uh is they have to
say to the lad who say if he did, they
have to be paid to make the point. You know, whoa,
look at what they're shay, whoa. But I'm so sick.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Do you know what he said? I don't know what
he said. He's said to cut He's got a good voice.
It said something catchy about his way. You like listening
to him. But I have no idea what you're talking about.
But and did he say? The DJs at w R.
I think the last DJ here I'm trying to remember, well,
it would have been somewhere in John Gambling. I think
he used to play music. Gene Clavin used to be
(21:35):
here in the afternoons. He played music, But I think
that was in the late seventies. So I don't think
we've had a DJ since then when we come back,
we'll see if we can talk to Steve Moore. I
think he'll show up. Steve Moore, the Brilliant Economists will
be with us next on seven to ten w o R.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Welcome back to the Mark Simone Show seven ten wo R.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Hey, the great economist Steve Moore. Make sure you get
his new book. His latest book is The Trump Economic Miracle.
It's an excellent book. Also, make sure you sign up
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(22:19):
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it Unleash Prosperity dot com. Steve Moore, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Hey, Mark, Good to be with you now.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I'm not doing well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I spent so much time in the last four days
at the airport. This flight castle, that flight castle, you know, delays.
It's just been a complete avoc and now I hear
that it's probably going to go on for even another
two weeks, even now that they're finally about to reopen
the government. It's just been chaotic. And by the way, Mark,
what exactly did Chuck Schumer achieve from this? I mean
(22:50):
really nothing. I mean it was fifty six billion dollars
of lost taxpayer money cause mayhem, turmoil, frustration for people
in the country and he got nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, did he get nothing? Or was the whole idea
just to screw up the Trump economy a little, maybe
screw up the.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Old Well maybe that would be a very nefarious motivation,
you know, if he intentionally sabotaged the economy to make
Trump look bad. But I guess that's what politicians do
this these days. And you know, shame on him because
it really did ruin our whole weekend. My wife and
I were gonna have a little retreat, you know, get
away for three or four days. We spent half the
weekend in the airports and people were so angry all over,
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you know, everywhere we went. And what a way to
score political points is to is to inconvenience people all
over the country.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Well, if you look back fourteen shutdowns, no party has
ever gained anything from a shutdown. The shutdown caucuses, oh
for fourteen, isn't it. It never does anything?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, that's right, and what and by the way, you
know what what what Chucky Schumer wanted was to you know,
allow the legal immigrants to get help benefits, to add
one hundred and fifty billion dollars a year in cost
to the federal government when we're already running two trillion
dollar deficits. I mean, it was outrageous demands and he
(24:10):
was basically holding the government hostage until in Trump, to
his credit, did not blink. Here he said, you know,
screw you, We're we're not going to cave into your blackmail.
And I think Americans should be very angry about what happened.
And that's fifty six to sixty billion dollars billion with
a B that was lost to taxpayers because of the
(24:31):
cost of the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now, Steve Moore, am, I right, Obamacare is a total failure.
If it wasn't, why would you need If it's affordable,
why would you need subsidies?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know it is it would be hard to come
up with something stupider than what we have today. And more,
it's so expensive we pay through the WAHOO with all
of these costs, and by since we passed Obamacare, which
was supposed to be the affordable care Act, the cost
of health insurance is doubled and tripled for most Americans.
(25:03):
You know, it's costing the average family now thirty thousand
dollars a year for healthcare. That's a lot of money.
And so we've got to figure out a better way
to do this. Trump has some very good ideas. I mean,
you know, let's just move to more of a catastrophic
insurance model, where you would you know, for the first say,
five thousand dollars of costs, you know, you just pay
out of pocket, but you're not going to pay thirty
(25:25):
thousand dollars a year for insurance, and everybody would come
out ahead. I mean, when you go to the doctor
or the hospital mark, you know, do you ask what
it's going to cost?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, nobody does, and then you're in there for five
minutes and the bills forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah. I mean, can you imagine if we all went
to the grocery store and didn't pay for it. Yeah,
I'd have lobster and steak and champagne every night.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah. But the real reason for this is Obamacare and
the reason Democrats fight to keep it. The money goes
directly to the insurance companies from the government. Yes, so
what do we do about that? How are you going
to break that model? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
The insurance companies have become the real villains here. So
when they know they wanted these expansions of Obamacare subsidies,
which is going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars,
guess where seventy percent of the money goes.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Insurance companies.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, insurance companies. They just put in the bank. They're
making so much money hand over fists, and they were
the chief lobbyert. They were the group that, more than
any other group on Capitol Hill was lobbying for these
extensions because they have made a fortune off of Obamacare,
whereas there's no evidence that Obamacare has had any positive
(26:38):
impact on people's health.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Hey, Steve Moore, let me ask you another question. If
you are watching TV, listening to radio, reading stuff, going
to the news sets, and all you hear about is
the affordability crisis. This is all you hear a thousand
times an hour, You're going to start to think there
is an affordability crisis. It propaganda works that way.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, there is an affordability crisis, There's no question about it.
I mean, prices are up, you know, thirty percent since
Joe Biden was present. Thirty percent. It's unbelievable. Now, guess
what twenty five percent of that thirty percent was under Biden.
I mean, you know, so I'm angry about the cost
of groceries. I'm angry about the cost of you know,
buying things today. It's health insurance costs, housing cost, grocery
(27:21):
costs up up, up, up up. But folks, remember, the
vast majority of this insurance, of this inflation and higher
costs and higher interest rates was under Biden because he's
spent about five trillion dollars we didn't have with this
massive spending spree. So we are seeing costs come down.
I mean, you know, the rate of inflation come down.
It was remember when it hit nine point one percent
(27:43):
under in place under Biden, and that was in I
think twenty twenty one, twenty two. You know, now it's
down to about two point eight percent, which is still
too high. You know, we'd like to bring it down
some more. But Trump is doing that. The inflation rate
is coming down. But remember, you know, he's only been
in office for nine months, and Biden, we just blew
(28:03):
a hole in the budget in the inflation rate, and
it's going to take some time. But by the way,
I was traveling last week, as I mentioned, and I
was in the Midwest for a couple of days, two
sixty nine a gallon for gas. Yeah, that's the last
time you saw that.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, we don't see it in New York at California,
but in between, gas prices are ready now. And I mean,
it's just a mess. But inflation is down since Trump
took over, and you always said it is done. You
always say it's going to take him a year or
so to really fix the problem. So we're only about
halfway there, right.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Right, And but look, we have the numbers, and what's
happened to people's real income. In other words, when you
take inflation into account, people things are more affordable today
for most people, not less affordable. So the average family
has about twelve hundred dollars more after inflation income. Another
point I want to make about this is that, you know,
(28:58):
the big beautiful tax we passed, most Americans have not
felt the effect of that yet because they didn't change
their withholding on their taxes. So what that means, and
Trump has made this point, you know several times. Next year.
Next year people are going to see a big reduction
and the taxes withheld from their paychecks because they didn't
do it this year. So you know, relief is coming folks.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah. Hey, Steve Moore in Florida, Ron DeSantis, he's talking
about getting rid of property tax, and he's saying that
everybody should, everywhere, every state, get rid of property tax.
And he makes the point, it's your land, you own it.
How's the government taxing.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You on this?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But then what do you do to make up for
that needed money? You have growth?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know, I mean Florida has imported one trillion dollars
of capital from and disposable income from other states. And
guess where most of that money is coming from. No,
I don't tell us New York, New York, New York
and California. And so they have so much money coming
in that they're able to cut their you know, Florida
has no income tax, and now they're cutting their property tax.
(30:05):
They've cut this tax, that tax. The only tax that's
kind of high in there are sales tax, but everything
else is pretty low. It's a very affordable state. That's
the other thing about the affordability issue, mark that you
were asking me about. Yeah, if you live in New York,
everything's expensive. If you move to a red state, things
cost a lot less. Why because they have high taxes
in the Blue states, they have high regulations, they have
(30:27):
you know, energy costs are much higher in the Blue states.
So if you want more affordability and you want your
paycheck to go further, move to a red state.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm not leaving. I'm staying right here.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
How do you I know you're not.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know, we need you there in New York and
that in Northeast. But a lot of people are and
the problem is that that tide will increase dramatically. At
a piece of New York Post on this the other
day that you know, if mom and Dami does what
he said he's going to do and continues to raise
the tax rate, you know, I think sixteen percent they want, Well,
(31:03):
you can go to Florida or Texas pay zero. You know,
people don't get rich by being stupid, right, And they're
not stupid if they see, hey, I could pay sixteen
percent in New York or zero in Florida. What do
you think you'd do, especially if you're a billionaire. I
could save one hundred million dollars a year by moving
to you know, Florida. Unfortunately, a lot of the billionaires
are going to leave. And then who's Mondomini going to
(31:25):
get the tax money from.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, at least he's going to solve the traffic problem.
The good luck will be bred.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Steve Moore, great stuff. Everybody. Get his book, The Trump
Economic Miracle. You really love this book and sign up.
You put out this that's the best daily briefing, every day,
best issues and analysis. Go to unleash prosperity dot com
and sign up for it. Steve Moore, thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Okay, Mark, have a great weekend here.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
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