Greg Giangrande is a transformative Human Resources and Communications leader with an exceptional record and reputation as a trusted partner and counselor to CEOs, Executive Leadership teams and Company Boards across iconic, multi-platform companies with global scale. Recognized as a leading authority on careers and the workplace, Greg is the "GoToGreg" career advice columnist for the NY Post; was a weekly on-air contributor for IHeart Radio WOR 710 prior morning show; and frequent television on-air contributor for Good Day NY, Fox5 News. He is currently the Global Chief People and Communications Officer for Ellucian - a private equity-owned global market leader in Ed Tech powering the future of Higher Education. Greg has a BA in Journalism and a MA in Communications from New York University, where he taught public speaking and communications courses as an adjunct faculty member for 20 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from dou Wor. Here again is
Larry Manty with the wor Saturday Morning Job Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So you're happy in your job, but is there something
better out there for you? Is it wrong to apply
for something else while you're already working? It's a good
question to ask career advice expert Greg gm Grande. Greg,
Good morning, how do you answer that question?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Larry? Wait, what are you saying that people
actually like go on job interviews when they're already employed
and happy. That's such a shock to me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've done it my entire career, by the way, I've
always been looking for the next job.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, so it might sound counterintuitive like you're happy, why
would you be looking for another job? And I think
there's a distinction. You may not be actively looking for
another job. But the best time to keep your head
(01:07):
up and aware of what is out there is when
you're happy, Because when you're miserable, you tend to look
at opportunities with through rose colored glasses because anything is
better than what you have. And sometimes it's true and
it works out, but sometimes you settle because you just
(01:28):
want to get out of where you are. But if
you're happy, and you remain aware of what's available in
the job market, you are much more likely to be
open to and move to something that is really significantly
better because you're happy, So we'd have to be better
(01:50):
in order for you to make that move. So it's
a great time to remain active in the job market.
I don't mean sending out your resumes all over the
place and having people think that you're not loyal to
your current employer, but you absolutely should remain aware even
when you're not looking.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I've had situations where a boss will get a
phone call saying, did you know your employees looking for
another job? And then they have to come to you
and say, are you looking for another job? You're not
happy here? What do you do in that situation?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So, if you're a talented employee, the companies are trying
to poach other companies' talented employees all the time, and
it would any boss has to be aware that most
employees occasionally take calls, even if they don't proactively make
(02:51):
a call or search. They will take a call if
somebody is interested, and they'll have a conversation and it
can be positioned that way. I am happy here, I
am not looking. I got this call. I get calls
all the time like I'm sure you do too, boss
and everyone else, and occasionally I will I will take
(03:12):
a call because it's a smart career move to do that.
There is no you don't have to hide that fact.
I mean, you know, I've always been open with my boss.
Oh I got another call today, or I got you know,
I keep getting these calls, and I keep telling people
I'm happy, I'm not going anywhere. I think being honest
about what we all do anyway is there's no harm
(03:36):
to your career, and you know it could keep your
boss on their toes. It's like, yeah, I got a
I've got a really talented employee. I better make sure
that I do everything I can to take care of
them because other companies are trying to steal my talent.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I can go one of two ways, can it?
It can happen that they go, well, they can give
you a raise, or they can give you, you know,
the first of bump up in salary, or they can
promote you to try to keep you there so you
don't go to another company. Or they can say and
you'll find out how they feel about you. All right, Well,
good luck.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, it's good to know. If that's how your boss
feels about you, Well, you keep taking those calls and
let me know if you decide to take another job
and when you're last day, that's something you should know exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hey, let me amend something I said a moment ago
that I've been doing that in my entire career. I'm
very happy here. I'm not looking for anything else here.
I would never do that, so I've reached the pinnacle.
I'm not I'm not looking for anything else.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
What you meant was that all these other competing stations
are calling you constantly, but you're happy where you are
and you're you're not interested.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
When is a good time us? You answered the question already.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
People try to time the the job market like they
try to time the stock market, and that's a fool's
errand you shouldn't try to time it because you can't.
You're only looking for that one right opportunity. And even
in a down market, when all the news and headlines say, oh,
companies are laying off and job growth is slowing, that
(05:25):
doesn't mean that companies aren't hiring. So I would look
for a job whenever a you need to look for
a job, or as I said earlier, always be active
in the job market. Always be aware who's hiring, what
kind of roles, who's making moves. Stay engaged with your trade,
whatever profession you're in, the trade associations that often promote
(05:52):
and highlight talent movement within that sector. Just stay active
all the time because you never know when that right
opportunity is going to become available, And if you're not
looking up and and aware, you might miss it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Greg, are there signs that you should be looking for
a new job?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What did you look at me when you said that?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean you miss a lot of people like I
didn't see it coming. What are those warning signs that
you should be looking out for.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, one is when your boss says, yeah, well, good
luck with that when he finds out you are interviewing
that as Larry said before. But if your boss isn't
paying as much attention to you, if you're not getting
like great assignments, if the feedback you're getting is more
critical than positive, if you're not getting raises, or you're
(06:48):
getting lower than the company average. When they when they
do merit increases bonuses if you're in a bonus plan,
if it tends to be smaller than what you're or
we're expecting your target, those are all signals. But if
you're in the dark about if you feel in the
dark about where you stand at your employer, then it's
(07:11):
your responsibility to own your career and not let yourself
get surprised. So be direct with your boss. How am
I doing here? What are my prospects? Here's what I'm
interested in from my career and how to continue growing
and developing it. How do you see me? What can
we do right? Then you'll know.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Career advice expert Greg Gimgrande. You can ask them any
career questions at go to Greg dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
This has been a podcast from w o R
This is a podcast from dou Wor. Here again is
Larry Manty with the wor Saturday Morning Job Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So you're happy in your job, but is there something
better out there for you? Is it wrong to apply
for something else while you're already working? It's a good
question to ask career advice expert Greg gm Grande. Greg,
Good morning, how do you answer that question?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Larry? Wait, what are you saying that people
actually like go on job interviews when they're already employed
and happy. That's such a shock to me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've done it my entire career, by the way, I've
always been looking for the next job.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, so it might sound counterintuitive like you're happy, why
would you be looking for another job? And I think
there's a distinction. You may not be actively looking for
another job. But the best time to keep your head
(01:07):
up and aware of what is out there is when
you're happy, Because when you're miserable, you tend to look
at opportunities with through rose colored glasses because anything is
better than what you have. And sometimes it's true and
it works out, but sometimes you settle because you just
(01:28):
want to get out of where you are. But if
you're happy, and you remain aware of what's available in
the job market, you are much more likely to be
open to and move to something that is really significantly
better because you're happy, So we'd have to be better
(01:50):
in order for you to make that move. So it's
a great time to remain active in the job market.
I don't mean sending out your resumes all over the
place and having people think that you're not loyal to
your current employer, but you absolutely should remain aware even
when you're not looking.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I've had situations where a boss will get a
phone call saying, did you know your employees looking for
another job? And then they have to come to you
and say, are you looking for another job? You're not
happy here? What do you do in that situation?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So, if you're a talented employee, the companies are trying
to poach other companies' talented employees all the time, and
it would any boss has to be aware that most
employees occasionally take calls, even if they don't proactively make
(02:51):
a call or search. They will take a call if
somebody is interested, and they'll have a conversation and it
can be positioned that way. I am happy here, I
am not looking. I got this call. I get calls
all the time like I'm sure you do too, boss
and everyone else, and occasionally I will I will take
(03:12):
a call because it's a smart career move to do that.
There is no you don't have to hide that fact.
I mean, you know, I've always been open with my boss.
Oh I got another call today, or I got you know,
I keep getting these calls, and I keep telling people
I'm happy, I'm not going anywhere. I think being honest
about what we all do anyway is there's no harm
(03:36):
to your career, and you know it could keep your
boss on their toes. It's like, yeah, I got a
I've got a really talented employee. I better make sure
that I do everything I can to take care of
them because other companies are trying to steal my talent.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I can go one of two ways, can it?
It can happen that they go, well, they can give
you a raise, or they can give you, you know,
the first of bump up in salary, or they can
promote you to try to keep you there so you
don't go to another company. Or they can say and
you'll find out how they feel about you. All right, Well,
good luck.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, it's good to know. If that's how your boss
feels about you, Well, you keep taking those calls and
let me know if you decide to take another job
and when you're last day, that's something you should know exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hey, let me amend something I said a moment ago
that I've been doing that in my entire career. I'm
very happy here. I'm not looking for anything else here.
I would never do that, so I've reached the pinnacle.
I'm not I'm not looking for anything else.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
What you meant was that all these other competing stations
are calling you constantly, but you're happy where you are
and you're you're not interested.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
When is a good time us? You answered the question already.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
People try to time the the job market like they
try to time the stock market, and that's a fool's
errand you shouldn't try to time it because you can't.
You're only looking for that one right opportunity. And even
in a down market, when all the news and headlines say, oh,
companies are laying off and job growth is slowing, that
(05:25):
doesn't mean that companies aren't hiring. So I would look
for a job whenever a you need to look for
a job, or as I said earlier, always be active
in the job market. Always be aware who's hiring, what
kind of roles, who's making moves. Stay engaged with your trade,
whatever profession you're in, the trade associations that often promote
(05:52):
and highlight talent movement within that sector. Just stay active
all the time because you never know when that right
opportunity is going to become available, And if you're not
looking up and and aware, you might miss it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Greg, are there signs that you should be looking for
a new job?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
What did you look at me when you said that?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean you miss a lot of people like I
didn't see it coming. What are those warning signs that
you should be looking out for.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, one is when your boss says, yeah, well, good
luck with that when he finds out you are interviewing
that as Larry said before. But if your boss isn't
paying as much attention to you, if you're not getting
like great assignments, if the feedback you're getting is more
critical than positive, if you're not getting raises, or you're
(06:48):
getting lower than the company average. When they when they
do merit increases bonuses if you're in a bonus plan,
if it tends to be smaller than what you're or
we're expecting your target, those are all signals. But if
you're in the dark about if you feel in the
dark about where you stand at your employer, then it's
(07:11):
your responsibility to own your career and not let yourself
get surprised. So be direct with your boss. How am
I doing here? What are my prospects? Here's what I'm
interested in from my career and how to continue growing
and developing it. How do you see me? What can
we do right? Then you'll know.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Career advice expert Greg Gimgrande. You can ask them any
career questions at go to Greg dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
This has been a podcast from w o R
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