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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We're back after a summer hiatus. The podcast conversation Patty
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I'm Patti Jackson.
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I am a forty three year radio announcer, and I
really love great conversation and we have so many great voices.
I'm the baby boomer, but we've got jen X Millennials,
We've got jen hy.
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But we are back, and we've got Uncle what.
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I know you've missed me? Hello life, I miss you.
You know this full force miss you.
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We're gonna talk about freedom of speed. We see how
things are changing. We see with the Jimmy Kimmel blow
he's taken off, he's put back on. It really unnerved
a lot of people on all sides because it seems
like our freedom of speech is being attacked.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yes, I agree, one thousand percent. It's funny because I
told people, I said, be careful what you accept. Even
if you agree, be careful what you accept because if
they can get away, this is a test run. And
if they can get away with taking away or threatening
your your to censor you, then they can take away
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your freedom of speech. Next next thing, you know, when
you make Trump mad or you make somebody mad, next
thing you know, you're being fired for. People get fired
from their job because they're speaking out.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And I think that's a dangerous game we're playing.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
How about on social media because sometimes people can get
pretty reckless. Should people maybe counted three before they pose
something that may seem controversial on social media?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
So freedom of speech doesn't have limits. You can't have
a limit to your speek, even if it's unpopular. You
got to be able to say what you want to say.
And if that's what freedom, freedom of speech is. No
matter what it is, is it moral, Probably not, But
it doesn't mean you can't say it. You know, it's
just your own discretion, right. Just because you can't don't
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mean you should. But that's your discretion, that's not the
discretion of the government or your employer. But you still
gotta be careful is what may shane your employer in
a bad light.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
They may fire you for.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's me Dex Andoya back together again. Somebody queue up
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How you guys doing I'm doing good.
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We're gonna start off today with freedom of speech. What
a wild week it has been when we saw everything
that went on with Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And it was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
They are really taking way our ability to freely speech.
Do you think people are starting to wake up to
what they voted for. I think a lot of people,
myself are getting their faces cracked.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Oh absolutely, I think for a certain I feel like, okay,
it's a different experience in America. If you are black
in America, and especially a foundational black America, this is
the same soup, just reheated for us. But for a
lot of the others who did not know and do
not believe black people when they tell you things, they
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for sure one thousand percent are getting their wake up call.
I do love to see how people did rally around
when it came to this Jimmy Kimmel thing, because it's
like that if that doesn't tell you that is a
direct infringement on our freedom of speech, then nothing else will.
So for me, looking at this situation, I hate that
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all of this is happening, but like you said, it
is forcing people to wake up, and if you do
not wake up now, you will not have a United
States of America the way that you have grown accustomed
to knowing.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Toya X in the building, dexter, dexter your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I think what Toya said is true, but I think
the like I think we're getting the wider scope of
what freedom of speech actually is because like people think,
it's like I can tweet, I can post, I can
protest whatever I want to do, and it's like, yes
you can, but there's always been restrictions on it. There's
always been like this fine line that you can't really
necessarily cross. The issue, though, is you just never know
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who makes the actual rules of what you can and
cannot say and what lines you can and cannot cross,
because that freedom of protest thing, it's always been, it's
always been there. But you knew that during the George
Floyd protest that President Donald Trump was not into that,
Like he said, I will deploy the National Guard to
people who are protesting in major cities. So if he
said that, then you voted for him. What four years later,
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you voted for him to put him back in there?
What do you think is going to happen when you
protest something that he is for, Like, it's never going
to cut to people until it starts to hit them,
And I think now it's slightly starting to hit them.
But I still see people who are saying, like, I'm
glad they canceled Jimmy Campbell. They should cancel more people.
So it's like, I do think people are getting a
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wake up call. But I do think also we frame
freedom of speech based on what we want it to
be and whoever's in the leadership chair they frame it
and their supporter supported.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Hey, Patty, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
This is a great topic because all of the things
that are going on in our country right now. Regarding that,
I'm not surprised, you know, but I think it is
very biased, Like certain people can have freedom of speech,
and like what is that feel it's changing? People come
to our country for freedom of speech, right, but do
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they actually get it? And who who is at the
top of freedom of speech and who is at the bottom?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh, I've missed your voice. Lexi is joining us.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
She is a doula and her very important work with
black maternal health. We're talking about freedom of speech, are
you surprised at what we are witnessing and seeing right now?
Speaker 9 (06:28):
No, I really wish I could say I was surprised,
but there's been so much history to support what we're seeing,
even in my own lifetime, and I'm only, you know,
not only, but I'm only forty two. So no, Unfortunately,
I'm not surprised by what we're saying. Disappointed once again,
but not surprised.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Why do you think people did not pay attention because
we were warned, We were warned, But people don't want
to go out in food.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
That's the first thing I thought about in a lie
a lot of this stuff that we're seeing is how
people were like, I'm not voting because I don't want
to vote for her and.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
I don't want to vote for him.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
And I'm like, so, you do know there's only two
possible candidates, so if you don't vote for her, you
are voting for him. And what is I think most
disheartening is how so many of those people who either
didn't want to vote or voted their bias, if you will,
now they're the one suffering and struggling oftentimes the.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Most Welcome to the podcast Conversation, Patty and the millennials.
We're talking freedom of speech. We've got author Kim Fred
who is joining us. She's also like a motivational coach.
She actually she actually does it all. And when we
talk of freedom of speech, how has it affected the
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work that you do?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Vote? Patty?
Speaker 10 (07:55):
A great deal. And actually I'm talking to you from Washington,
DC at a fifty fourth Annual Congressional Black Caucus, and
very timely topic because we are talking about policy. We're
talking about progress or lack thereof, we should say in
our nation. And you know, we have talked about over
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the last several weeks and in most recently the last
two weeks, what has been happening in the news. And
you know, to your question directly, Patty, you know, free
speech and in my work I'm in I'm a diversity Equality,
inclusion belonging in culture executive and advisor in my day job.
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And free speech isn't just a right, Patty, it's the
foundation of democracy.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
It ensures that diverse.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Voices like you and me, and such a powerful voice
like yours right and incomparable legendary voice like yours, has
so much power in the communities that we serve, and
especially those Historically, silence can contribute to shaping our society,
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and I think we underestimate our power because without.
Speaker 11 (09:19):
It, progress stalls, because innovation and justice only become only
come when multiple perspectives are really heard. And I would
say this finally, that tree speech, Patty, matters because it's
the oxygen of progress. It allows us to breathe life
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into new ideas, challenge what no longer serves us, and
ensures that everyone has a voice in the room. And
that's what I try to play a small part in
fighting for in our nation, for women and people of
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color every single day.
Speaker 10 (10:06):
And why I'm here in DC this week.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
We've got most Shane Loren noted broadcaster, Hey Love, how
are you?
Speaker 12 (10:17):
I'm wonderful?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
How about you? Freedom of speech? Does this scare you?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Does this recent interview, even though they brought Jimmy Kimmel back,
it unnerved me when it first happened because it seems like, Wow,
they're just gonna be going after voices who don't agree
with what this administration is doing.
Speaker 12 (10:40):
Yeah, you know, Patty, I'm telling you this. This is
water cooler talk all over the world right now, we
particularly here in the United States, because this is sort
of what we've prided our democracy around. Right, our constitution,
it says that we are supposed to have freedom to,
you know, express, our freedom of speech is supposed to
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be free. But if we have to be one hundred
percent honest, it's not. It's not. It's actually one of
the most expensive rights that we have. And our ancestors
paid for it with their blood, their their bodies, and
unfortunately a lot of their voices were silenced too soon.
And today, you know, we're still paying for it every
time somebody tries to cancel, censor, or intimidate us into silence.
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Free speech is not just under fire, Patty, it is
really in jeopardy of foreclosure.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You see that.
Speaker 12 (11:31):
You see that real estate, So it is really in
jeopardy of foreclosure. And if we don't keep fighting for it,
the cost won't just be freedom of expression, it'll be
freedom itself.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
We're talking freedom of speech the podcast Patty and the Millennials.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
We've got millennials.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
At gen X, gen Y, We've got Reese Greed, a
recent graduate of said Joe's what are you gen Z?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay gen Z is in the bill. Let's talk about
freedom of speech? Oh Man, does.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It scare you. The whole thing that happened when Jimmy
Kimmel leaving Lowie's back. Did it scare you?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It unnerved me.
Speaker 13 (12:12):
Yes, it fully scared me because this country we've always
been mad at cancel culture for canceling people for like,
you know, certain things. But now it's like a flip
of the cancel culture. People that were people that were
against it are now for it, but in like a
weird way, you know what I'm saying, Like it's kind
of scary how racism is accepted, but then pointing out
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the racist gets you canceled. That's just a scary world
to live in.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I look at how, you know, people actually want to
erase slavery and make it like, well it was a
great thing.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
No it wasn't.
Speaker 13 (12:51):
And that's scary, Like especially when teaching young kids that
and being able to change the whole curriculum that changes
everything for that child growing up to where when and
they'll see actual real slavery stuff, they'll be like, this
isn't true, and that's scary. That's very scary.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's very scary because our ancestors went through a lot, Yes,
for those who died on the passage for those who
jumped over the ship and said, I ain't doing that.
Those that survived us in our different shades of blackness,
we are the survivors and carrying the torch of our
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ancestors who went through that terrible, terrible journey. And I said,
we must never forget our past. We must never forget.
We should want to do well for our ancestors. We
should want to be our ancestors wildest dreams and excel
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in life for them. For those who didn't make the passage,
for those who jumped the ship, but for those who
survived under harrendous situation to make it to this country
and then to be in this country and now built
this country.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
We never gonna let nobody he race slavery.
Speaker 13 (14:11):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We've got the comedian magician, he's an all around entertainment guy,
Derekly And Derek is joining us, and.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
We're talking about the freedom of speech.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Did what happened to Jimmy Gimmel, even though he's back,
did that scare you?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Didn't unnerve you? It unnerved me. I was like, what
the hell?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yes, because because when when when white people start shutting
down white people, you know what's gonna happen to us
if they if they took off Jimmy Kimmel show, I'm
gonna get deported the stuff that I say. So, yeah,
it was very scary, was very traumatic, and it was terrible,
and he didn't say anything wrong. It's a shame that
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this maga, this magadat and everybody's offended so easily. But
when that other senator was killed by somebody, nobody had
a day of silence, Nobody talked about a holiday, none
of this. So you done got rid of Joy Reid.
You're trying to get rid of Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Come on now.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, it is scary, but thankfully that they brought him back.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What do you think in the world of all of.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
These podcasters and influencers, do you think one day they
could come after them and silence?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
If Donald Trump is in office. I wouldn't be surprised.
If Donald Trump is in office, we all need to
be scared. But let's blame the percentage of people that
did not vote. Let's blame the black folks and the
white folks that just wanted to get rid of brown people.
So it's their fault. He told you in Project twenty
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twenty five, what he was going to do and he's
doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Thanks for joining us for the podcast conversation Patty and
the Millennials. This is when the meeting of the boomers,
gen X, millennial gen why we all come together and
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