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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Welcome to What's going On, A show about
making a difference in our lives and our communities. I'm
Lorraine Balladmorrow. The latest effort to overturn marriage equality comes
from former Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, who asked the US
Supreme Court to revisit the twenty fifteen ruling that legalized
same sex marriage nationwide. On November tenth, the Court declined
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to hear her case, leaving the law fully intact, and
while some state legislators have pushed symbolic resolutions calling for
its reversal, the court's refusal, combined with federal protections under
the Respect for Marriage Act, means marriage equality firmly remains
the law of the land. We'll talk about this development
with attorney Angela Giampolo of Gampolo Law and the blog
(00:45):
Philly Gay Lawyer during our monthly feature speak Out. First,
one in eight women will be diagnosed with breast cancer
and early detection remains key. We speak with a company
working to make state of the art mammograms more accessible
and available. October maybe behind us, but the fight against
breast cancer continues year around. According to the American Cancer Society,
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about one in eight women in the US will develop
invasive breast cancer in her lifetime, and early detection can
reduce the risk of death by more than thirty percent.
And I can tell you from personal experience. In my
very close friend group of six women, three of them
have breast cancer. And so this is something that means
so much to me and I'm so delighted. Joining us
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today is Jennifer PANTLEEO certified BreastCare nurse and Vice president
of clinical Programs at Salace Mammography, an organization that's been
a national leaguer leader in breast health services for nearly
forty years, including multiple centers right here in the Philadelphia
region in partnership with Jefferson Health. Jennifer, for those who
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may not be so familiar, tell us a little bit
about Salace Mimmography and its partnership with Jefferson Health here
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Certainly, first of all, thank you so much much for
speaking on this topic. It is such an important message
to get out and so Jefferson hell Soul's Momography really
takes a comprehensive female focused approach to breast health. We
have a team of experienced breast specialist and compassionate health
advocates that are truly dedicated to offering an overall positive
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mimography experience. I also feel it's important to understand that
with all the technology and everything that's available, that we
offer AI integrated three D mimmography, and this is because
it offers greater accuracy and the earliest stage detection. So
all of that while being designed to be comfortable. We
want our patients to enter an environment that's soothing and calming.
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And we also know the convenience is key, so we
offer easy online scheduling, fast appointments, and typically you're going
to have results within just a few business days.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Why is early detection so critical and what are some
of the key benefits of getting your annual mammogram on time?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So what is so important with the message about early
stage detection is to know that early stage breast cancer
means better outcomes. It is curable. So when you're combining
the technology like I mentioned, and we have that singular
focus on breast imaging, we're able to find those breast
cancers that are smaller than five millimeters that's about the
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size of a grain of rice.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And so when we're detecting those breast cancers that early.
That means that interventions are going to be less and
then the treatment options are going to be better for
the patients.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Many women tend to delay or skip screenings, and I
can tell you from personal experience. I was able to
convince one of my colleagues to get her first mammogram period,
and I'm working I'm working on another one of my
colleagues who's never had a mammogram, So you know that
I'm going to be checking out your website and getting
her to sign up. But anyway, many women do you
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tend to delay or skip screenings? What advice do you
have for those who may feel anxious or think that
they don't need a mammogram yet.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, it's so easy for us to delay, it, isn't it.
It's so easy to just say, you know, I'll do
this next month, or i'll do this next week. That
what's really critical about getting an annual mammogram and having
that year over year side by side comparison is as women,
our breasts change year over year over year with our
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hormones and as we age, and so by having those
side by side scans, which is that annual mammogram, the
radiologist is going to be able to compare and detect
really subtle changes before you can even feel it. And
so that's where that annual screening helps drive that early
stage detection for breast cancers. And I have to say
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on what you said, it is never too late to
number one get started and number two pick back up
on your annual mammograms. It's never too late to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We are starting to see more and more younger women
with breast cancer, and I wonder if you can talk
about what the current guidance is as to when women
should start getting a mammogram.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This is a great question, and there is so much
data out there right now that may suggest one way
or the other. But I can say, as of right now,
first and foremost, and this would be my number one
message to all women, is that annual mammograms and mimography
remains the gold standard for the early detection of breast cancer.
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And so annual mammograms are currently recommended for women that
are forty and older. Okay, so once you hit forty,
you are eligible to start receiving an annual screening mammogram.
Now that's regardless of family history and with no other considerations,
and you did mention the earlier stage or the earlier
ages in breast cancer. So that's where it's so important
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for women to talk to their providers about what may
be they may be eligible for. So a woman that
let's say maybe younger in her early thirties, but has
had family members impacted by breast cancer, they may be
eligible for earlier screening. So it's so so important that
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you talk to your healthcare provider and you know, talk
to your family as well, and try to uncover some
of that medical history because it can help drive and
really set the stage for what your screening cadence needs
to look like as you age.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, and I think that it's very important to keep
up with the latest technology, the latest advice about breast
cancer because I know that when I was coming up,
they said to get your mammogram at fifty and so
now it seems as though that's come earlier, and I
don't think everybody knows that. I don't think everyone understands
that you can get a mammogram at forty as opposed
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to wait, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah you sure can, and having that baseline or having
that mammogram, Like I mentioned that annual comparison. I really
think women need to understand too, that they may be
eligible for a one time baseline mammogram between the ages
of thirty five and thirty nine, because at the ages
of thirty five and thirty nine, if you have that
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one time glimpse or that one time look starting at
the age of forty, it gives that comparison back.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, I'm one of those women that has dense breasts
and I had to have a special kind of mammogram
can tell us more about that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So breast density has really gotten such a good spotlight
over the last few years, and a lot of research
has been done on what breast density means to a
screen you know, as you're entering your screening age, and
so I think as a nurse, I would want patients
to know that breast density has nothing to do with
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your age, and it has everything to do with what
your breast tissue looks like on your mammogram. So you're
not going to know what your breast density truly is
until you have that first mammogram. Now it can change
again year over year, But for women who have the
diagnosis of breast density, especially those categories of C or
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D and the categories for breast density, just to back up,
is A, B, C and D. So if you have
on your mammogram that you have breast density A or B,
that means that your breast is fairly easy for the
radiologists to look through basically, and so when you get
into the breast densities C and D, the breast tissue
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almost looks white on the screen in various patches or
in more in a greater mass when they're looking at
the mammogram. So when the radiologist is looking through that
breast tissue, cancers may be able to hide, which is
why the additional screenings are recommended now. So women who
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have the breast density C or D, it is recommended
for them to also receive an additional image or additional imaging.
This could be a screening breast ultrasound, which is exactly
what it sounds like. They have an ultrasound machine that
scans the breast and as the woman's line down, or
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perhaps the woman can be eligible for a breast MRI,
which is a little bit different because that's when the
woman is going to be laying in an MRI machine
for a different evaluation. Not everybody may be eligible for that,
but that is an option for women that have dense
breast tissue. We're also seeing an increase in the amount
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of providers that may be steering their patients or looking
at patients to have a contrast enhanced mammogram. So the
contrast enhanced mammogram is where a woman will have a mammogram,
but in addition to that, right before then, she's going
to have the injection of contrast into an IV that's placed,
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and so that offers another different kind of look for
radiologist to do an assessment.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Well, I have to say, and I give a shout
out to salas Monography because getting an ultrasound mammogram for
a different health group was almost impossible to get because
they only had a couple of machines. But when I
reached out to Jefferson, I was able to make that
appointment right away because you have so many setters that
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offer it, but also you have the machines that are
working and the availability is there. I mean, I really
was very frustrating because trying to get a quick appointment
was pretty much impossible with this other healthcare group. And
so just a big shout out to saw US because
as soon as I called, I was able to make
an appointment right away.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I am so glad to hear that. And that's one
of the benefits of the Jefferson Help and Solace Momography
partnership is if we can't get you in at the
center that may maybe you would normally go to, we
have a number of other ones that certainly we can
fit you in and fit into a woman's schedule to
make sure she gets timely access to that care because
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it's so important. And besides all that, it's stressful. You know,
you go in for your screening and then you get
a phone call that maybe there's something else that needs
to be looked at. Those appointments should be always be expedited.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, And it's like going to the gym. It's very
important to have a gym that's easily accessible, that's not
too far from your home right right. And the same
really goes for something like a mammogram. It's much more
likely that someone will get one if it's going to
be more convenient. And that's where Solace is really really
stepping up because you have a new Jefferson Health Solace
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Mimmography center in flower Town and I know you're opening
up even more. Tell us more about that and how
listeners can schedule appointments at any of the Solace mimmography centers.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Certainly, so it's really important to check out our website,
which is www dot solasmammo dot com. So when you
go to that website, all you need to input is
your zip code, and so with your zip code, it's
going to drive whichever centers. Now you can put your home,
your work, your friend's house, whatever's going to be convenient
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for you. And that's also going to give you the
updates on which centers are going to be opening in
your area. And so we will always have information posted
there so you can look forward to where those new
centers are going to be opening, and that's where all
of the information will be housed.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well before we close, do you have any final messages
that you'd like to send out to the women out
there who should be getting their mammograms.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Schedule now, it's not too late, get it scheduled. I
think as a patient of Solace myself, one of my
favorite things is that online scheduling. I can go to
my phone, I click a button, I have an appointment.
In less than a minute. You can go in and
get that appointment scheduled, So don't hesitate, get it done today.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Women get your mammograms. It's absolutely important. The American Cancer
Society says one in eight women in the US will
develop invasive breast cancer in her lifetime. I have many friends,
close friends who are either living with a breast cancer
or have just been diagnosed with breast cancer. So this
is a personal mission of mine, is making sure that
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every woman who should get one gets one, and certainly
Solace Mimography through Jefferson is one way to do that.
I want to thank you so much. Jennifer pat Leo,
certified breast cancer nurse and vice president of clitical Programs
at Solace Mimography. Thank you so much for all the
work that you're doing to make sure that women get
their mammograms and that it's easy, that it's safe, that
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it's comfortable, and it's accessible because there are lots of
different locations. Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thank you so much for the invitation. I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 1 (16:06):
You're listening to what's going on? Well, we're here with
Angela Giampolo. She is my co host for a segment
we do every month, every single month, and that is
speak Out, where we talk about issues that are of
concern to the LGBTQIA plus community, but also let's talk
about how they impact all of us. Angela who is
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the founder and CEO of Gimpolo Law and the wonderful
blog Philly Gay Lawyer and so many things, and an
activist in many different areas. So anyhow, Angela big news.
Supreme Court ruled on a case that has direct impact
on marriage equality. Update us on what happened, and.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
So it's important to note the difference.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
They didn't rule on it, They just decided not to
take it not, you know, address the case at all.
And I always tell folks we have to celebrate the
win when we get them, no matter how large or
small that they are. But I hate to be Debbie Downer,
but a lot of folks are celebrating and saying, in
no way did the Supreme Court say by not taking
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this case that obergerfelt is the law of the land.
They just chose not to take this case. It was
a horrible case if the goal was to overturn marriage equality.
The case Kim Davis, for those who may not know,
is a county clerk in a very small rural town
in Kentucky, and ten years ago when we got marriage equality,
she refused to issue marriage licenses several And it's one
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of those small rural towns where that's it. If Kim's
not giving them out, then nobody's getting them kind of thing.
You don't go to another lane. And so she was
ultimately put in jail and then litigated that and the
final verdict she lost every single step of the way
throughout the ten years of her litigating this. She lost
at every single court level, state level, appeal, on and
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on and on, and so the final resis when it
went up to the Supreme Court, was she owed three
hundred and sixty thousand dollars in damages, the original one
hundred and then attorney's fees and then punitive damages all
total three sixty and so that is what was in
front of the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And she said the reason she went.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
To jail and had to pay this money was because
her First Amendment religious rights were infringed upon.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
So at most maybe the Supreme Court could have taken this.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Case and dealt with that the religious because there's a
law in Tennessee that says clerks the Kim Davises of
the world don't have to marry me if they don't
want to. So if she were in Tennessee, she would
not have been in jail. It's legal there, right. But ultimately,
in my opinion, and I've been saying this for months,
I never thought the Supreme Court was going to take
this case because it can only decide what's in front
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of it.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
And it was not a direct attack to Oburger film.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
So a lot of people are you know, news feeds
in HRC and LAMBDA legal and victory breaking news not quite.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
As jumping up and down for joy because this doesn't
necessarily preclude more challenges, is that right?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
This was not a legitimate challenge to a Burgerfell. It
was her not wanting to pay the money. And she
has the right to believe that, you know, her religious
beliefs were infringed upon and having to marry the folks.
But at the end of the day, the Supreme Court rarely,
if ever, it's taken a damage case, you know, case
around damages in order to change the constitutional state of
things in the country.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
There is another case.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
And so you know, my overall perspective on Obergerfell is
I don't believe there'll be a massive overturning of it,
and instead a slow erosion of it. Project twenty twenty
five and the Heritage Foundation folks put themselves on a
fifty year.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Trajectory to overturn Ruvy Wade. They didn't say they were
going to do it in a day in one big
Fell soup. No, there was Pennsylvania v.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Casey, your case of EU Pennsylvania, and like you know,
little case after a little case that ultimately.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Chipped away at it.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
And there is a case that was decided eighteen months
ago that I believe is the Supreme Court press and
because again they needed a case.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
You can't just randomly overturn.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Something without having a case that you can say is
the basis upon which you're making this decision. So there
was a case eighteen months ago about an immigration case
about a straight married couple, and somehow the Supreme Court
made it about marriage equality. All the dissenting justices were like,
how did you make this about marriage equality?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Even Gorsic. Even Gorsig in a concurring opinion said, I.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Agree with the overall majority, but the ruling should have
been much more narrow on the one procedural thing. Why
did we have this broad ruling around the fundamental right
to marriage?
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
And so in it oberger Fell, prior to this case,
said that marriage comes in a bundle, a bundle of
privileges one one hundred and thirty eight state and federal privileges,
and they come in that bundle. And this was a
demarcation from that. And Amy Cony Barrett wrote the opinion. Ultimately,
this woman, Sandra Munez, the US government deported her husband
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for suspicious tattoos, game affiliation, super vague, you know, reasoning
and choose a lawyer and employment discrimination attorney.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
She actually got back to me.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I reached out, told her my thesis that her case
would be the one to slowly unravel LGBTQ marriage equality,
and she's like, why, I hope not, you know, And
so we're gonna have a discussion and sort of flesh
that out. But Amy Coney Barrett said, while everybody has
the fundamental right to marriage, So she repeated that, what's
an oburger fellow? She said, while everyone has the fundamental
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right to marriage, that does not mean that you have
the constitutional guarantees of the rights inherent in marriage.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So that particular case meant that the fact that he
could be deported, it wasn't guaranteed that because he was
married to this US citizen that he would be given
the privilege of staying with her in this country.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Right exactly.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
It literally said, you do have the fundamental right to marriage,
but that does not mean you have the fundamental right
to cohabitate with a non US citizen.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And how can you cherry pick that? How does that happen?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
It's asinine and a lot of people don't know that.
Amy Coney Barrett has adopted all four of her kids
from around the world. Right what if you said, you
have everyone is the fundamental right to be a parent,
but not necessarily live with their children. Right, and he
had two kids born in US soil as well, That
case to me marks the unbundling.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So we have the fundamental right to marry.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
So, and I've used this analogy with you before, that
marriage is like a steak knife oney one hundred and
thirty eight serrated edges, the cut co of all steak knives.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Right, nobody can take away your knife.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
But it's whether or not LGBTQ folks will get the
cut coo of all steak knives or have a butter knife.
But nobody can take away the knife. And we get
married for those one one hundred and thirty eight serrated edges.
But the overturning over Burgerfeld would mean taking away the
knife or you just nullify it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right. So the case that you're referring to, this immigration case,
tell us specifically how that be extrapolated to impact marriage equality.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
So far beyond immigration.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
So in this particular case, immigration was the one one
hundred and thirty eight State and federal Privileges nineteen seventies
screen card, Gerald de Pelgeria. You marry someone and your
spouse can't be taken away from you, and that is
no longer the case. So then that could be extrapolated
into parenting, you know, having the right to marry it,
but not necessarily be a parent. Adoptions were banned in
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you know, over thirty states prior to marriage equality, and
there are states that would want to ban LGBTQ folks
from being able to be a parent telling Kim.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Davis that she has to marry me.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
You have the right to marry Angela, but you don't
have the right to tell Kim Davis that she has
to marry you, right, And so it's again the Respect
for Marriage Act is full recognition of your marriage across
the country.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
And this is about the privileges.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
So I can recognize you as married, but then slowly
but surely whittle away the rights inherent in said marriage
without taking away the fact that you are married. So
and in the case it talks about, you know, writes
on paper versus in reality, the dissented how this ultimately
will serve to negatively impact LGBTQ folks more than anyone.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
I have a friend Jason Javi and his husband Henry
Jason's a criminal defense attorney, and Henry worked at Schulsen
and they were on their way to Kansas City to
watch the Eagles play the Chiefs and flew commercial and
Henry you know, has visa status issues and swiped American
airlines as sharing passenger information, swiped sporting.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Pass his rang red and a different.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Sound, and twenty ice agents came out of nowhere and everywhere,
all at the same time. Jason's a criminal defense attorney,
He's quick on his feet, he's good under pressure. And
it was a blur and then off went Henry in
detention for weeks without being able to speak to him,
and then ultimately ended up in El Salvador where he
fled for his safety to begin with, Wow, when he
was seventeen years old. But so now lgbtq FO could
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end up back in a country where it's illegal to
be gay that they fled from, right and then before
usd to go back to that.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So yeah, that's incredibly cruel. Now, what is the status
of that particular case in terms of where it stands
right now?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It was decided eighteen months ago.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
It's there and we're you know, ultimately we'll see if
it is used and cited four cases moving forward that
deal with marriage equality. So, for instance, Texas just passed
that statute saying that judges don't have to marry LGBTQ folks.
Tennessee has the statute that says judges and clerks don't
have to marry LGBTQ folks. And so there was a
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judge in Syracuse who refused to marry an LGBTQ couple
a few months ago. As these start bubbling up, there
needs to be litigation around a real case at the
heart of marriage equality, not Kim Davis, and then that
will go to the Supreme Court and then we'll see
if the theory is true that they would then cite
the immunez case for the holding that yes, you have
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the right fundamental right to marry not necessarily x you know,
privilege inherent in marriage.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and you bring up some very important points. As
we always do, we try to also expand the view
in terms of how it impacts the rest of our society.
And what you're saying is that it could extend to
people who adopt in.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
One of the biggest comments on social media that I've
been getting is I'm confused isn't that a straight couple
like wouldn't they're holding impact straight couples too? And I
absolutely yeah, right, black brown like marginalized straight families and
queer families would see the negative impact of that particular case,
the Department of State v. Munas basically marginalized communities in
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some way, shape or form. And then moving forward, yeah,
you know, it would impact in my opinion, straight and
LGBTQ couples alike, but predominantly those in a marginalized capacity
in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So what is the call to action? And we as
citizens do or say to protect the rights of those
who believe in marriage equality.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Keep staying informed.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
What happened yesterday the Supreme Court and not taking the
Kim Davis case in no way enshrined anything. They did
not make a statement about Obergerfel meeting the law of
the land and that they're not touching it. And so
again I always say it's not about you know, don't
be scared, just be prepared and be informed, right and
so I and you will continue to educate folks as
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things actually happen. Just this segment coming off the cusp
of that announcement just wanting to say great, could have
been worse, right, so at least yes, let's celebrate the
win and stay vigilant. There's a big difference between complacency
and fallacy. You know, when folks are complacent, they know
and they choose not to be aware of a thing, right,
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And with this nuanced area of law, folks just don't
know what they don't know. And so just you and
I even having this segment and people going the extra
step to stay informed, I think that's the biggest call
to action.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, Angeli Gimpolo as always, thank you for keeping us
up to date on issues that are particular concerned to
the LGBTQIA plus community, but also how all of these
different issues can impact the rest of us. And I
think it's very important for us to understand that we
are all in it together. And if people want more
information about your law firm, which does wonderful work with
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wills and all the good things that people need to
do in order to protect their families and their relationships,
how do they do that?
Speaker 6 (28:31):
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the office two and five six four five twenty four
fifteen that then call the phone, or you can find
me on Instagram your.
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Gay Lawyer Yes, and also check out your very amusing TikTok.
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Keat is gay lawyer Yeah.
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As always, very important conversations. I thank you so much
for coming on as you have done for so many
years to be able to have these kinds of conversations.
These are important conversations that we all need to have
and we all need to listen to and be engaged with.
So thank you, Angela Giampolo.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Absolutely, thank you, Loreen.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
As always, you can listen to all of today's interviews
by going to our station website and typing in keyword community.
You can also listen on the iHeartRadio app yey Words
Philadelphia Community podcast. Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at
Lorraine Ballard. I'm Lorraine Ballard MOREL and I stand for
service to our community and media that empowers. What will
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you stand for? You've been listening to what's going on?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
ED.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Thank you