February 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Today, it’s all about love! 💕 First, if you're looking for a unique and heartfelt Valentine’s Day gift, we’ve got you covered. Members of the Pine Barons Barbershop Chorus join us to share their Singing Valentine’s Program, a special initiative delivering live serenades, chocolates, a rose, and tickets to their Spring Show—all to spread love through music. Representing the newly formed quartet InVersion, we welcome Eric Herr (PR), John Tsigounis (Lead, Logistics Consultant), Patrick Casey (Tenor), Larry Melton (Baritone, Educator), and Gary Holberg (Bass, Auto Mechanic)—bringing over 90 years of barbershop harmony experience. Want to surprise someone with a Singing Valentine? Reserve your spot for February 13, 14, or 15 at www.pinebarons.org or call 856-246-5066.
Then, I’m re-airing a very special interview—one I recorded ten years ago with my husband, Gilberto Gonzalez, before we were married. After 17 years together, we tied the knot five years ago during the COVID pandemic, in front of a small, socially distanced group, with the rest joining via livestream. Funny enough, I didn’t think making it official would change much—but I was wrong. Maybe it’s the weight of the vows or the symbolism of an unbreakable commitment, but as strong as our love was before, it’s even deeper and richer now. Tune in for music, memories, and a whole lot of love! 🎶❤️
Then, I’m re-airing a very special interview—one I recorded ten years ago with my husband, Gilberto Gonzalez, before we were married. After 17 years together, we tied the knot five years ago during the COVID pandemic, in front of a small, socially distanced group, with the rest joining via livestream. Funny enough, I didn’t think making it official would change much—but I was wrong. Maybe it’s the weight of the vows or the symbolism of an unbreakable commitment, but as strong as our love was before, it’s even deeper and richer now. Tune in for music, memories, and a whole lot of love! 🎶❤️
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, and welcome to what's going on? A show
about making a difference in our lives and our communities.
I'm Lorraine ballat Moral Today It's all about love. I
re air an interview I conducted with my husband a
number of years ago before we married, and I'm resharing
it this morning. First, if you're struggling to find a
unique and heartfelt Valentine's Day gift, we gotcha. I am
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absolutely delighted to introduce members of a talented group of
barbershop singers who are bringing harmony and heartfelt melodies to
the community where their singing Valentine's program. This special initiative
delivers live in person serenades, complete with chocolates, a rose,
and tickets to the Pine Barren Spring Show, all in
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the spirit of spreading love through music. Today we're speaking
with members from the newly formed Quartet Inversion, who collectively
have over ninety years of barbershop singing experience. The lead
singer is John Sigonis, the tenor is Pat Casey, the
baritone Larry Melton, and the bass singer Gary Holberg. To
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tell us more is Eric Herr. He's pr person for
the Pine Barons Quartet. So very talented young men here
joining us today. Eric tell us all about what's happening.
This singing Valentine is a fundraiser.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It is. We're all members of the Pine Barons Barbershop Chorus.
And the Barbershop Harmony, by the way, is a throwback
actually to the game in eighteen nineties. And the Barbershop
Harmony Society was founded in nineteen thirty eight by a
banker and accountant in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it was sort
(01:40):
of a spoof on many of the initial programs in
the Roosevelt era, all the public works programs, the initial
public Works program. So these guys, the banker and accountant,
owenc Cash and Rupert Hall, decided we're going to top
everything and have our organization called the Society for the
(02:00):
Preservation and Encouragement of Barbershop Quartet Singing in America Incorporated. Well,
that lasted for a while, but nobody could remember the acronym,
so it's since been called since about two thousand and
seven or so, of the Barbershop Harmony Society. We are
at the Pine Barren's Chorus, that is is one of
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several chapters doing a singing Valentine's promotion, which involves singing
a uniformed quartet coming out to deliver two songs, a
long stem rose, a box of chocolates, a personalized card,
and a lot of good wishes along the way as
well to an unsuspecting sweetheart. And they'll come out to
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your home, a place of work, a restaurant, or wherever
and deliver a Valentine's surprise. So it's always a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh yeah, what a great and unique way to celebrate
Valentine's Day. And I wonder if you can tell us
some of the more memorable reactions that you've witnessed when
deliver these singing Valentine's Well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Not going to be in a quartet this time around,
but in past years I have been one, and I
remember in particular, we had a couple, young couple that
had just had their first child, and she was just overwhelmed.
In fact, tears were coming out as we were singing
the couple of sweetheart songs at that point. And we've
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sung for people that have been celebrating their one hundredth
anniversary or one hundredth birthday, i should say, and anniversary
celebrations in restaurants and whatever that's always great when you
get into a public place and start singing and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So those are some of the more memorable experiences I've had,
and I'm sure similar ones by quartets that have been
out and about.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Well, let's get some examples of this amazing and unique
musical style in version quartet.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What are you guys going to sing?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
We've got a appropriate time of the year, Valentine things.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's good for both of you to
treat the spouse. They're gonna love it. And we're celebrating
Eagles today as well, because we are so proud of
the Florida Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well hit us with some of your beautiful music.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Go ahead, to lie seem as cheerful as a schoolboy
playing hooky.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
To lie, since to gurgle like a baby with a cookie. Fine, fine,
because of it all.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Is you, Because you make me.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Feel so young, so young, and you make me feel
so spring is wrong. And every time I see you
green and as.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Such, be individual. The moment that you speak, guy, I
want to go.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Play hide and seek. I want to go and bounce
the moon just like a toy balloon you and.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Hard, just like a couple of.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Times running across a.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Metal speaking up lots of forget me not it made
me feel so you you made me feel there are.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
A song to be sung, fls to be wrong, a
wonderful thing to be found, to be fun even along
gray feel away I do to day. You make me
feel so ya.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Wow, that's awesome, That is fantastic. This is really a
special way of celebrating Valentine's Day, and I wonder if
you can repeat for us how they can how people
can set that up.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Sure, sure, be glad to We are actually offering the
singing Valentines to unsuspecting sweethearts if you will on February thirteenth,
fourteenth and the fifteenth as well, so people have, you know,
those three dates on which to order and schedule and
so forth, and we'll have a good number of quartets
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rotating through the process, so there's a good chance you'll
be able to get the time slot you want. But
I should say you need to call early on so
that we can accommodate your request. And the place to
go is Pinebarns dot Org pine Barrens spelled Barns. It's
sort of a regal twist to the tract of land,
(07:06):
I might add that's where that's where the name got
its got its origin. Or you can call on the
phone at eight five six two four six five oh
six six And for all that I mentioned earlier, two songs,
a long stem rose, personalized card box of chocolates and
so forth, all for just sixty five dollars. What a deal,
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What a deal?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In Version, well, you all came in dressed in your
Eagles regalia. Given this is Super Bowl Sunday, I think
it's more than appropriate for you to sing our Eagles
theme song, So share that with us.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
If you will, fly.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Eagles Fly on the Rosviory.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Files onto three, hit him all, hit him, Watch Eagles
Fly Fly eles Hollo rotory.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
E g l E Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
That is so amazing. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You guys are truly talented and uh we really got
into the spirit.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And of course the Eagles will be Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Winners, right absolutely, you can. By the way, you can
hear all these seasoned voices, right, they really come through
well absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Eric Herr, who is the pr person for the Pine
Barrens Barbershop Chorus, and of course in Version, who collectively
have over ninety years of barbershop singing experience, and they
are lead singer John sigonis tenor is Patrick Casey, baritone
Larry Melton, and bass singer Gary Holberg.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
They are amazing and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hopefully folks will take you up on that wonderful offer.
What a great, great way to celebrate Valentine's Day. Thank
you guys for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Final words, Eric, Yeah, just a couple of contact points
to order your singing Valentine again, Pine Barons. That would
be b r o NS dot org or you can
call eight five six two four six five six six
and again. We're offering it on three separate days, thirteenth, fourteenth,
which of course is Valentine's Day, and on the fifteenth
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as well.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Fantastic. What is dedication?
Speaker 8 (09:43):
The thing that drives me every day as a dad
is Daryana. We call him DAYT eight for sure. Every
day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge,
and there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when
he's no longer under my wing, that he's a good person.
(10:04):
I think the advice I would give is you don't
need to know all the answers. The craziest thing was
believing that your dad knew everything. So as a dad,
you felt like you had to know everything. You had
to get everything right. It's okay to make mistakes as
long as it's coming from love. Then you know it
kind of starts to work itself out. I want him
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to be able to sit back one day and go
we worked together. We did a good job.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
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Speaker 3 (10:35):
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Speaker 9 (11:08):
You said you'd never buy your kid candy from the
checkout aisle, or forget extra diapers and never give into
a meltdown. You'd never lick your thumb to clean their face,
never let them have too much green time, and never
bribe them for just one more bite. You say you'd
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never let them out in public without their hair brush,
never ever become a minivan mom, and you'd never give
them your phone for a quiet dinner.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Calling boss work phone.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
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Speaker 4 (12:02):
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Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're listening to what's going on, And now I'm re
airing an interview I did with my husband ten years
ago before we were married. We've been together for seventeen
years and tied the knot five years ago during the
(12:30):
COVID pandemic in front of a socially distanced group of twenty,
with the rest joining via live stream. Funny enough, I
didn't think making it official would change much, but I
was wrong. Maybe it's the weight of the vows or
the symbolism of an unbreakable commitment, But as great as
our love was before, it's even deeper and richer now.
(12:51):
I recorded this interview with my sweetheart, Gilberto Gonzalez. We'd
been together almost eighty years. At that point we'd both
had heartbreak, which makes life even sweeter now. So for fun,
in time for Valentine's Day, I thought I would reair
the interview we did together about meeting for the first time,
and so for a change, I thought I'd get really
(13:12):
up close and personal and bring my true love into
the studio. Gilberto Gonzales, Hello.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Hi baby, how you doing.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So what we're going to do is we're going to
talk about how we met and a little bit of
our story. So I guess we'll start with how did
we meet? How did we meet?
Speaker 10 (13:33):
Well, I was working on a project with Melissa Shapiro.
She works for nonprofit art organizations, and we were communicating
through Facebook back when Facebook, kind of the early beginnings
of Facebook, not.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Two thousand and eight. Yeah, so.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
Back then, when you were on Facebook and communicating, little
pictures would pop up. So then picture popped up, and
then you know, I was like, wow, my meat, that
I look at it, I was like, WHOA, she's hot.
So so I friended you and you accepted.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, because I thought that you were someone I worked
with that I hadn't met yet. Because back then they
also indicated what network you belonged to, and it said
that you belonged to CCP, and at the time, our
company was called Clear Channel Philadelphia CCP. But it turned
out you were with with Community College of Philadelphia, which.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Is where you work. Uh huh, yep, it's a graphic designer, yes, And.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So you you started to communicate with me, you know,
you started to send me messages.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Yeah, I was like your baby, No, No, you didn't tho.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No.
Speaker 10 (14:46):
I was more like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't, I really don't.
Speaker 10 (14:49):
I don't remember the you know, what the communication was,
but I do remember asking you out to let's get
a cup of coffee or drink, and I think it
took a couple of times, but then agreed to do it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, we started to talk before we met.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
We emailed each other, we facebooked each other first, and
then you know, we got Eventually I kind of figured
out that you didn't work for a Clear Channel.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I thought you were really young. I mean I thought
you were like in your twenties or something.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Really.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, for some reason, fake picture up. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But and then and then after we talked for a
little while, then I did agree to meet with you,
and I picked a public place.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
And came under armed guard.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
No, all my friends knew where I was going, and
they were actually up the street. And then and then
I walked So what did you What did you think
when I walked in the door?
Speaker 10 (15:40):
Well, actually, I was standing near the entrance of the
restaurant and I saw you walking up the street and
I said, oh my god, I think that's her. And
I was really nervous, and I was like, oh my god,
she's she's too beautiful. Soon as she gets the looks
and look at me, she's just gonna walk down.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
I was expecting the worst, you know. So I think
you were like about half a block away across the street,
and I saw you walking towards the place and I said, wow,
that's I think that's her.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And then when I saw you, I thought, oh, he's
really cute.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I thought you're very handsome.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes, And so we had we had dinner. It was
a standard tap, standard tap Northern Liberties, and then we
had I thought a very nice dinner. You know, you
seemed a little shy.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
Yeah, I was really nervous.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, and then you walked me to my car. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And then I did something that I don't normally do
on a first date.
Speaker 10 (16:41):
I know, you kissed me and I was, well, I
went in to kiss you and you kissed me back,
and I felt like I was twenty because I was.
I was like, wow, my god, this is this is
so great. I you know, again, I was still nervous,
you know, but yeah, that first kiss was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So when did you know that I was the one?
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I think the first interaction you had with with my sons, Like,
my my children love you, and I think from the
very first moment that they connected with you. They you know,
I mean, they just love you. I mean, and I
you know, I don't let too many people near my children.
(17:25):
So when you came to Lucas's birthday, you know, it
was like this real sweet connection and I was like, wow,
this is this is so wonderful. You know that that
my children are connecting with you, and I think that
just completes everything, makes everything real, real beautiful.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well it's funny because I felt the same way. I
went to your son's birthday party, and you were so
great with all the kids there. There were a lot
of kids, or your family was there Number one For me,
growing up as kind of an old child, I you know,
I didn't really have that family experience. So you had
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this really great family circle. Everyone was very warm and
very welcoming. And then I just observed how you were
with the kids. You were so good with them. They
just connected with you. You were so sweet, and I
just thought, wow, this guy is really special, really cool.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Really yeah. So that kind of cemented it.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
So it wasn't like my my man, you know, I
put in my my meat. That's saying, yo, my meat.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It will go no.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But you know, you're the first kind of guy I've
ever gone out with that has a little bit of
a macho thing happening there.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So it took me a little while to get used
to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, because you know you are of Latin Latino extraction,
Puerto Weecan, Yeserto Rican.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And and just the little things, you know, just how
you are very protective and uh and sometimes a little
you know, at least at the beginning, you know, as
I was kind of getting used to kind of being
with you. You know, you're a little bit kind of
a little offended sometimes about how I no, no, no,
because I'm a little bit you know, outgoing and flirtatious,
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and I realized that that you weren't like enjoying.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
That very much.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And so it's the little, you know, things that you
do that you make, you know, compromises and stuff because
out of respect for your partner. So I kind of
dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
But so name three things that we have in common?
Speaker 10 (19:33):
Do you think I think we do a lot of
work in the community, just I think connecting people and
helping people in just in and around the city. I mean,
that's that's one thing that we have in common. I
think that we were very loving, not just with each other,
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but with family and friends, were very dedicated to them.
And we both like to dance.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yes, yes, yeah, well let's see and things. The three
things that I think we have in common, well, definitely
our love of community and our commitment to community.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think we like.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To help people a lot, and we try and we
love to dance.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
This is true. So those are three things.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I think we try to grow, you know, we
don't We're not satisfied with being just who we are.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
We always want.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
To be a better person, I think, and we all
strive for that.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Yeah, well, I think that's something we I admire about
you is that you, you know, I admire that about
you that you always strive for more and always you know, go,
you know, you go beyond what most people would do.
And I think that's so beautiful. I mean, that's that's
why I love you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's why I love you too. So what are the
best times? At the most difficult.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Times, what are the best times? I think, to be honest,
every day that we're together, it's like a new day
for me, you know, like and then sometimes when I
don't see you for a few days, I like, I
like miss you. So when I see you, it's like
it's just so wonderful. So that's the best when when
I when I'm with you, Every time that I'm with you,
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it's just beautiful and and and special. The most difficult
would be this thing that we called it.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yes, I nicknamed her Cookie.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
So when Cookie comes out, I get a little scared,
to be honest, because it's like I don't know, I
you know, it's it's a side of you that rarely
comes out. But when it comes out, it's like, oh
my god, no, but it is because it's not you,
you know. I mean, it's that's the side of you
that that I hardly ever see. But when I see it,
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it's like it's just I feel like it's like so like,
it's not you. I think it's Cookie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, that darn Cookie. Let's see the best times. Well,
I would agree with you. I we just have so
much fun together. I think we just have a lot
in common. We enjoy a lot of the same things.
We even like comic books, we like you know, we
like science fiction. I never really went out with anybody
who liked as many things in common with me that
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you have in common. So so that's fun. So when
we can, you know, go to fun movies and we
can dance and all those things.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So but yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I think I just really like being with you because
you're just very easy to be with, and you're so patient,
especially when Cookie shows up, which which is rare, which
is rare, but I think, you know, and I think
that's probably the most difficult times. Sometimes I do get
(22:52):
a little broody at times, and but it's rare.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Thank you. I can handle cookie. It can handle cookie.
You can put cookie in her place?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
No, no, I just handle it.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What advice do you have for young couples.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
I think for young couples, I think really being honest
and transparent. I mean I think that like between us.
I mean, I think you grab my cell phone, you
can flip through it, you can do whatever you want.
I'm not like, don't touch my cell phone. You know
that kind of stuff. So I think transparency and that,
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you know, like our lives, when you're a part of somebody,
then it's everything, you know what I mean. So it's
like my friends they have to like you, and my
family has to like you. If they don't like you,
then I'm not going to be sharing with them because
you're the one I love and you come first, you know,
you and my children. So I think for young couples
(23:51):
they transparency and sharing. And the other important thing is
that when you love somebody, you have to work at it.
Right you can just sit back and say, Okay, that's it.
It's like you have to appreciate every moment you're together,
Like I appreciate every moment that we're together. Every moment
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we're together, is special. I don't take you take you
for granted at all, So don't take anyone for granted,
especially the person that you love.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I think that trust is really important, and if you
don't have that, you don't have a real true relationship.
You know, if you are always wondering or you don't
you know, you think that someone is hiding something, then
that's not a true love relationship. You have to have
total trust, and we have that, which I'm very grateful
for exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think you know sometimes things, you know, everything doesn't
always go smoothly. I mean, everything isn't always perfect. When
you first go out, you know, everything is just everything
is great, you know, it's everything. But then it comes
a time when and there's a disagreement or there's some breakdown,
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and it's your ability to work through that that builds
a stronger relationship, builds greater intimacy, and makes the relationship.
It's the glue that makes it last. I think, you know,
there's always going to be stuff that happens, but if
you can't work it out, or let's put it this way,
(25:25):
the working out of whatever those conflicts or issues are
is a thing that makes your relationship stronger for sure,
if you're going there, and okay, tell me three things
you like about me, and I'll tell you three things
I like about you.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Three things that I like about you. You're beautiful every moment,
Like even now when I look at you, You're just beautiful.
That's one of my favorite things about it. You're just
so every day is like a fresh breath of beauty
every day. The other thing that I like about you
(26:06):
is again that you're a very giving person, to the
point sometimes where it's kind of kind of hurts sometimes,
you know, but I think that you know, you learn
and you grow, but I think that you're you don't
let the downfalls of being a giving person stop you
from giving to the people that need it. And I
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think I love that about you because it just doesn't.
You don't let that side bring you down. But you
just keep forward and you keep giving. And I just
love that. Then the other thing I like and love
is that again, dancing. I love to dance. You love
to dance, and we just anywhere we go, we just dance,
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and I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, you are I think, very hot and handsome, so yes,
so I enjoy I just feel like we fit as
a couple, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I just like how we are together.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's something about the way that you are When I
look into your eyes, there is such a an openness
and trust there. You are so open, and it always
impresses me, especially because I know that you had difficulties
in your life. You didn't have an easy childhood, you
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didn't have an easy adolescent. You were in an environment
where many of the people that you grew up with
are dead or addicted.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Or in jail.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And you didn't choose to go that way, but you
were in that environment. And so it just always amazes
me when I look at you, at how open and
loving and almost childlike in your your openness that you
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have been able to remain despite having gone through all
the things that you've gone through, I mean, really.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Pretty rough stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So that, to me is the most phenomenal thing about you,
is that you were able to get through everything that
you've been through and still come out on the other
side being as loving and as generous and as kind
and as giving as you are. And that is pretty remarkable.
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And I love your creativity. I love the fact that
you're an artist and a filmmaker and you know that
you have such a great creative element to who you are.
I think I enjoy that and it's very I love
that about you. I love that you paint and make
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movies and are able to share your gift.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
With other people.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
I love you, baby, I love you too.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
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You've been listening to what's going on, and thank you.
Good morning, and welcome to what's going on? A show
about making a difference in our lives and our communities.
I'm Lorraine ballat Moral Today It's all about love. I
re air an interview I conducted with my husband a
number of years ago before we married, and I'm resharing
it this morning. First, if you're struggling to find a
unique and heartfelt Valentine's Day gift, we gotcha. I am
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absolutely delighted to introduce members of a talented group of
barbershop singers who are bringing harmony and heartfelt melodies to
the community where their singing Valentine's program. This special initiative
delivers live in person serenades, complete with chocolates, a rose,
and tickets to the Pine Barren Spring Show, all in
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the spirit of spreading love through music. Today we're speaking
with members from the newly formed Quartet Inversion, who collectively
have over ninety years of barbershop singing experience. The lead
singer is John Sigonis, the tenor is Pat Casey, the
baritone Larry Melton, and the bass singer Gary Holberg. To
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tell us more is Eric Herr. He's pr person for
the Pine Barons Quartet. So very talented young men here
joining us today. Eric tell us all about what's happening.
This singing Valentine is a fundraiser.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It is. We're all members of the Pine Barons Barbershop Chorus.
And the Barbershop Harmony, by the way, is a throwback
actually to the game in eighteen nineties. And the Barbershop
Harmony Society was founded in nineteen thirty eight by a
banker and accountant in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it was sort
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of a spoof on many of the initial programs in
the Roosevelt era, all the public works programs, the initial
public Works program. So these guys, the banker and accountant,
owenc Cash and Rupert Hall, decided we're going to top
everything and have our organization called the Society for the
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Preservation and Encouragement of Barbershop Quartet Singing in America Incorporated. Well,
that lasted for a while, but nobody could remember the acronym,
so it's since been called since about two thousand and
seven or so, of the Barbershop Harmony Society. We are
at the Pine Barren's Chorus, that is is one of
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several chapters doing a singing Valentine's promotion, which involves singing
a uniformed quartet coming out to deliver two songs, a
long stem rose, a box of chocolates, a personalized card,
and a lot of good wishes along the way as
well to an unsuspecting sweetheart. And they'll come out to
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your home, a place of work, a restaurant, or wherever
and deliver a Valentine's surprise. So it's always a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh yeah, what a great and unique way to celebrate
Valentine's Day. And I wonder if you can tell us
some of the more memorable reactions that you've witnessed when
deliver these singing Valentine's Well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Not going to be in a quartet this time around,
but in past years I have been one, and I
remember in particular, we had a couple, young couple that
had just had their first child, and she was just overwhelmed.
In fact, tears were coming out as we were singing
the couple of sweetheart songs at that point. And we've
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sung for people that have been celebrating their one hundredth
anniversary or one hundredth birthday, i should say, and anniversary
celebrations in restaurants and whatever that's always great when you
get into a public place and start singing and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So those are some of the more memorable experiences I've had,
and I'm sure similar ones by quartets that have been
out and about.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Well, let's get some examples of this amazing and unique
musical style in version quartet.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What are you guys going to sing?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
We've got a appropriate time of the year, Valentine things.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's good for both of you to
treat the spouse. They're gonna love it. And we're celebrating
Eagles today as well, because we are so proud of
the Florida Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well hit us with some of your beautiful music.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Go ahead, to lie seem as cheerful as a schoolboy
playing hooky.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
To lie, since to gurgle like a baby with a cookie. Fine, fine,
because of it all.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Is you, Because you make me.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Feel so young, so young, and you make me feel
so spring is wrong. And every time I see you
green and as.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Such, be individual. The moment that you speak, guy, I
want to go.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Play hide and seek. I want to go and bounce
the moon just like a toy balloon you and.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Hard, just like a couple of.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Times running across a.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Metal speaking up lots of forget me not it made
me feel so you you made me feel there are.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
A song to be sung, fls to be wrong, a
wonderful thing to be found, to be fun even along
gray feel away I do to day. You make me
feel so ya.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Wow, that's awesome, That is fantastic. This is really a
special way of celebrating Valentine's Day, and I wonder if
you can repeat for us how they can how people
can set that up.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Sure, sure, be glad to We are actually offering the
singing Valentines to unsuspecting sweethearts if you will on February thirteenth,
fourteenth and the fifteenth as well, so people have, you know,
those three dates on which to order and schedule and
so forth, and we'll have a good number of quartets
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rotating through the process, so there's a good chance you'll
be able to get the time slot you want. But
I should say you need to call early on so
that we can accommodate your request. And the place to
go is Pinebarns dot Org pine Barrens spelled Barns. It's
sort of a regal twist to the tract of land,
(07:06):
I might add that's where that's where the name got
its got its origin. Or you can call on the
phone at eight five six two four six five oh
six six And for all that I mentioned earlier, two songs,
a long stem rose, personalized card box of chocolates and
so forth, all for just sixty five dollars. What a deal,
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What a deal?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In Version, well, you all came in dressed in your
Eagles regalia. Given this is Super Bowl Sunday, I think
it's more than appropriate for you to sing our Eagles
theme song, So share that with us.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
If you will, fly.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Eagles Fly on the Rosviory.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Files onto three, hit him all, hit him, Watch Eagles
Fly Fly eles Hollo rotory.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
E g l E Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
That is so amazing. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You guys are truly talented and uh we really got
into the spirit.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And of course the Eagles will be Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Winners, right absolutely, you can. By the way, you can
hear all these seasoned voices, right, they really come through
well absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Eric Herr, who is the pr person for the Pine
Barrens Barbershop Chorus, and of course in Version, who collectively
have over ninety years of barbershop singing experience, and they
are lead singer John sigonis tenor is Patrick Casey, baritone
Larry Melton, and bass singer Gary Holberg.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
They are amazing and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hopefully folks will take you up on that wonderful offer.
What a great, great way to celebrate Valentine's Day. Thank
you guys for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Final words, Eric, Yeah, just a couple of contact points
to order your singing Valentine again, Pine Barons. That would
be b r o NS dot org or you can
call eight five six two four six five six six
and again. We're offering it on three separate days, thirteenth, fourteenth,
which of course is Valentine's Day, and on the fifteenth
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as well.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Fantastic. What is dedication?
Speaker 8 (09:43):
The thing that drives me every day as a dad
is Daryana. We call him DAYT eight for sure. Every
day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge,
and there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when
he's no longer under my wing, that he's a good person.
(10:04):
I think the advice I would give is you don't
need to know all the answers. The craziest thing was
believing that your dad knew everything. So as a dad,
you felt like you had to know everything. You had
to get everything right. It's okay to make mistakes as
long as it's coming from love. Then you know it
kind of starts to work itself out. I want him
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to be able to sit back one day and go
we worked together. We did a good job.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
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Speaker 3 (10:35):
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Speaker 9 (11:08):
You said you'd never buy your kid candy from the
checkout aisle, or forget extra diapers and never give into
a meltdown. You'd never lick your thumb to clean their face,
never let them have too much green time, and never
bribe them for just one more bite. You say you'd
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never let them out in public without their hair brush,
never ever become a minivan mom, and you'd never give
them your phone for a quiet dinner.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
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Speaker 9 (11:46):
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Speaker 4 (12:02):
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Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're listening to what's going on, And now I'm re
airing an interview I did with my husband ten years
ago before we were married. We've been together for seventeen
years and tied the knot five years ago during the
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COVID pandemic in front of a socially distanced group of twenty,
with the rest joining via live stream. Funny enough, I
didn't think making it official would change much, but I
was wrong. Maybe it's the weight of the vows or
the symbolism of an unbreakable commitment, But as great as
our love was before, it's even deeper and richer now.
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I recorded this interview with my sweetheart, Gilberto Gonzalez. We'd
been together almost eighty years. At that point we'd both
had heartbreak, which makes life even sweeter now. So for fun,
in time for Valentine's Day, I thought I would reair
the interview we did together about meeting for the first time,
and so for a change, I thought I'd get really
(13:12):
up close and personal and bring my true love into
the studio. Gilberto Gonzales, Hello.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Hi baby, how you doing.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So what we're going to do is we're going to
talk about how we met and a little bit of
our story. So I guess we'll start with how did
we meet? How did we meet?
Speaker 10 (13:33):
Well, I was working on a project with Melissa Shapiro.
She works for nonprofit art organizations, and we were communicating
through Facebook back when Facebook, kind of the early beginnings
of Facebook, not.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Two thousand and eight. Yeah, so.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
Back then, when you were on Facebook and communicating, little
pictures would pop up. So then picture popped up, and
then you know, I was like, wow, my meat, that
I look at it, I was like, WHOA, she's hot.
So so I friended you and you accepted.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, because I thought that you were someone I worked
with that I hadn't met yet. Because back then they
also indicated what network you belonged to, and it said
that you belonged to CCP, and at the time, our
company was called Clear Channel Philadelphia CCP. But it turned
out you were with with Community College of Philadelphia, which.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Is where you work. Uh huh, yep, it's a graphic designer, yes, And.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So you you started to communicate with me, you know,
you started to send me messages.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Yeah, I was like your baby, No, No, you didn't tho.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No.
Speaker 10 (14:46):
I was more like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't, I really don't.
Speaker 10 (14:49):
I don't remember the you know, what the communication was,
but I do remember asking you out to let's get
a cup of coffee or drink, and I think it
took a couple of times, but then agreed to do it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, we started to talk before we met.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
We emailed each other, we facebooked each other first, and
then you know, we got Eventually I kind of figured
out that you didn't work for a Clear Channel.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I thought you were really young. I mean I thought
you were like in your twenties or something.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Really.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, for some reason, fake picture up. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But and then and then after we talked for a
little while, then I did agree to meet with you,
and I picked a public place.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
And came under armed guard.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
No, all my friends knew where I was going, and
they were actually up the street. And then and then
I walked So what did you What did you think
when I walked in the door?
Speaker 10 (15:40):
Well, actually, I was standing near the entrance of the
restaurant and I saw you walking up the street and
I said, oh my god, I think that's her. And
I was really nervous, and I was like, oh my god,
she's she's too beautiful. Soon as she gets the looks
and look at me, she's just gonna walk down.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
I was expecting the worst, you know. So I think
you were like about half a block away across the street,
and I saw you walking towards the place and I said, wow,
that's I think that's her.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And then when I saw you, I thought, oh, he's
really cute.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I thought you're very handsome.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes, And so we had we had dinner. It was
a standard tap, standard tap Northern Liberties, and then we
had I thought a very nice dinner. You know, you
seemed a little shy.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
Yeah, I was really nervous.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, and then you walked me to my car. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And then I did something that I don't normally do
on a first date.
Speaker 10 (16:41):
I know, you kissed me and I was, well, I
went in to kiss you and you kissed me back,
and I felt like I was twenty because I was.
I was like, wow, my god, this is this is
so great. I you know, again, I was still nervous,
you know, but yeah, that first kiss was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So when did you know that I was the one?
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I think the first interaction you had with with my sons, Like,
my my children love you, and I think from the
very first moment that they connected with you. They you know,
I mean, they just love you. I mean, and I
you know, I don't let too many people near my children.
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So when you came to Lucas's birthday, you know, it
was like this real sweet connection and I was like, wow,
this is this is so wonderful. You know that that
my children are connecting with you, and I think that
just completes everything, makes everything real, real beautiful.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well it's funny because I felt the same way. I
went to your son's birthday party, and you were so
great with all the kids there. There were a lot
of kids, or your family was there Number one For me,
growing up as kind of an old child, I you know,
I didn't really have that family experience. So you had
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this really great family circle. Everyone was very warm and
very welcoming. And then I just observed how you were
with the kids. You were so good with them. They
just connected with you. You were so sweet, and I
just thought, wow, this guy is really special, really cool.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Really yeah. So that kind of cemented it.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
So it wasn't like my my man, you know, I
put in my my meat. That's saying, yo, my meat.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It will go no.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But you know, you're the first kind of guy I've
ever gone out with that has a little bit of
a macho thing happening there.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So it took me a little while to get used
to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, because you know you are of Latin Latino extraction,
Puerto Weecan, Yeserto Rican.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And and just the little things, you know, just how
you are very protective and uh and sometimes a little
you know, at least at the beginning, you know, as
I was kind of getting used to kind of being
with you. You know, you're a little bit kind of
a little offended sometimes about how I no, no, no,
because I'm a little bit you know, outgoing and flirtatious,
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and I realized that that you weren't like enjoying.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
That very much.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And so it's the little, you know, things that you
do that you make, you know, compromises and stuff because
out of respect for your partner. So I kind of
dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
But so name three things that we have in common?
Speaker 10 (19:33):
Do you think I think we do a lot of
work in the community, just I think connecting people and
helping people in just in and around the city. I mean,
that's that's one thing that we have in common. I
think that we were very loving, not just with each other,
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but with family and friends, were very dedicated to them.
And we both like to dance.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yes, yes, yeah, well let's see and things. The three
things that I think we have in common, well, definitely
our love of community and our commitment to community.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think we like.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To help people a lot, and we try and we
love to dance.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
This is true. So those are three things.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I think we try to grow, you know, we
don't We're not satisfied with being just who we are.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
We always want.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
To be a better person, I think, and we all
strive for that.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Yeah, well, I think that's something we I admire about
you is that you, you know, I admire that about
you that you always strive for more and always you know, go,
you know, you go beyond what most people would do.
And I think that's so beautiful. I mean, that's that's
why I love you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's why I love you too. So what are the
best times? At the most difficult.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Times, what are the best times? I think, to be honest,
every day that we're together, it's like a new day
for me, you know, like and then sometimes when I
don't see you for a few days, I like, I
like miss you. So when I see you, it's like
it's just so wonderful. So that's the best when when
I when I'm with you, Every time that I'm with you,
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it's just beautiful and and and special. The most difficult
would be this thing that we called it.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yes, I nicknamed her Cookie.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
So when Cookie comes out, I get a little scared,
to be honest, because it's like I don't know, I
you know, it's it's a side of you that rarely
comes out. But when it comes out, it's like, oh
my god, no, but it is because it's not you,
you know. I mean, it's that's the side of you
that that I hardly ever see. But when I see it,
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it's like it's just I feel like it's like so like,
it's not you. I think it's Cookie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, that darn Cookie. Let's see the best times. Well,
I would agree with you. I we just have so
much fun together. I think we just have a lot
in common. We enjoy a lot of the same things.
We even like comic books, we like you know, we
like science fiction. I never really went out with anybody
who liked as many things in common with me that
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you have in common. So so that's fun. So when
we can, you know, go to fun movies and we
can dance and all those things.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So but yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I think I just really like being with you because
you're just very easy to be with, and you're so patient,
especially when Cookie shows up, which which is rare, which
is rare, but I think, you know, and I think
that's probably the most difficult times. Sometimes I do get
(22:52):
a little broody at times, and but it's rare.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Thank you. I can handle cookie. It can handle cookie.
You can put cookie in her place?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
No, no, I just handle it.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What advice do you have for young couples.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
I think for young couples, I think really being honest
and transparent. I mean I think that like between us.
I mean, I think you grab my cell phone, you
can flip through it, you can do whatever you want.
I'm not like, don't touch my cell phone. You know
that kind of stuff. So I think transparency and that,
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you know, like our lives, when you're a part of somebody,
then it's everything, you know what I mean. So it's
like my friends they have to like you, and my
family has to like you. If they don't like you,
then I'm not going to be sharing with them because
you're the one I love and you come first, you know,
you and my children. So I think for young couples
(23:51):
they transparency and sharing. And the other important thing is
that when you love somebody, you have to work at it.
Right you can just sit back and say, Okay, that's it.
It's like you have to appreciate every moment you're together,
Like I appreciate every moment that we're together. Every moment
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we're together, is special. I don't take you take you
for granted at all, So don't take anyone for granted,
especially the person that you love.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I think that trust is really important, and if you
don't have that, you don't have a real true relationship.
You know, if you are always wondering or you don't
you know, you think that someone is hiding something, then
that's not a true love relationship. You have to have
total trust, and we have that, which I'm very grateful
for exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think you know sometimes things, you know, everything doesn't
always go smoothly. I mean, everything isn't always perfect. When
you first go out, you know, everything is just everything
is great, you know, it's everything. But then it comes
a time when and there's a disagreement or there's some breakdown,
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and it's your ability to work through that that builds
a stronger relationship, builds greater intimacy, and makes the relationship.
It's the glue that makes it last. I think, you know,
there's always going to be stuff that happens, but if
you can't work it out, or let's put it this way,
(25:25):
the working out of whatever those conflicts or issues are
is a thing that makes your relationship stronger for sure,
if you're going there, and okay, tell me three things
you like about me, and I'll tell you three things
I like about you.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Three things that I like about you. You're beautiful every moment,
Like even now when I look at you, You're just beautiful.
That's one of my favorite things about it. You're just
so every day is like a fresh breath of beauty
every day. The other thing that I like about you
(26:06):
is again that you're a very giving person, to the
point sometimes where it's kind of kind of hurts sometimes,
you know, but I think that you know, you learn
and you grow, but I think that you're you don't
let the downfalls of being a giving person stop you
from giving to the people that need it. And I
(26:28):
think I love that about you because it just doesn't.
You don't let that side bring you down. But you
just keep forward and you keep giving. And I just
love that. Then the other thing I like and love
is that again, dancing. I love to dance. You love
to dance, and we just anywhere we go, we just dance,
(26:50):
and I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, you are I think, very hot and handsome, so yes,
so I enjoy I just feel like we fit as
a couple, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I just like how we are together.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's something about the way that you are When I
look into your eyes, there is such a an openness
and trust there. You are so open, and it always
impresses me, especially because I know that you had difficulties
in your life. You didn't have an easy childhood, you
(27:30):
didn't have an easy adolescent. You were in an environment
where many of the people that you grew up with
are dead or addicted.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Or in jail.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And you didn't choose to go that way, but you
were in that environment. And so it just always amazes
me when I look at you, at how open and
loving and almost childlike in your your openness that you
(28:03):
have been able to remain despite having gone through all
the things that you've gone through, I mean, really.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Pretty rough stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So that, to me is the most phenomenal thing about you,
is that you were able to get through everything that
you've been through and still come out on the other
side being as loving and as generous and as kind
and as giving as you are. And that is pretty remarkable.
(28:31):
And I love your creativity. I love the fact that
you're an artist and a filmmaker and you know that
you have such a great creative element to who you are.
I think I enjoy that and it's very I love
that about you. I love that you paint and make
(28:53):
movies and are able to share your gift.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
With other people.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
I love you, baby, I love you too.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You can listen to all of today's interviews by going
to our station website and typing in Keyword Community. You
can also listen on the iHeartRadio app Keywords Philadelphia Community Podcast.
Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Lorraine Ballard. I'm
Lorraine Ballard MOREL and I stand for service to our
community and media that empowers. What will you stand for?
(29:33):
You've been listening to what's going on, and thank you.
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