Swing It & Ding It: Episode 189

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by the one and only Patrick Kanig. He could call him a golf photographer,
but that really doesn't do him.Just so, harh, I was

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thinking about starting a new segment.You remember the old real men of genius
that like we've We've found some peoplethat have made some really good decisions in
life to play more golf, whichis what we want to do, which
is what our listeners want to do. Right, we had Jimmy james On,
who played the top one hundred golfgenius. Yeah, even like Robert
Burtel just decides to Dominican and bethe pro at KASA the Campo, Like,
these are smart golf decisions that we'renot making right now. And Daniel,

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Daniel, you are, We're not. But welcome in, Patrick Kaneig,
Welcome to Swinging and dang it,thanks for joining us. Man,
Hey, thanks for having me.It's it's a pleasure to be here.
So we asked this question a lot. It's kind of become our thing when
we talk about the golf journey rightfrom where you are now and what you're
doing, like how did that start? Like we'll get into all the all
the stuff that you've done, butit's great to just kind of hear how

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you ended up where you are nowalong the way. You know. Yeah,
it's funny you mentioned that because itwas a campaign just to get one
of those bud Light Real Man ofGenius commercials. And so thanks for putting
my name on that one. Iknow some people there, but I mean,
I think anybody that's been successful,at least my favorite people that are
successful usually say there's there's a greatdeal of luck that involves uh uh success

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and anything, and then you mixthat with a little bit of hard work
and doggedness and uh, that's athat's a that's a winning, winning formula.
So yeah, I mean it startedwith me for within just loving golf
courses so much. It was justlike my favorite place on the earth was
just to be on a golf course. So I took a lot of photographs
of golf courses just because it wasa way to kind of bring it with

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me. And then eventually Instagram cameout, and uh, you know,
so I just this will keep allmy golf photos, you know. So
I started doing that, and Iwas really one of the first people just
to be posting golf photography on Instagram. You know, it was new.
I was in living in San franciscGo. You know, the day it
came out, of everybody knew aboutit, and so I built a following

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and that's really kind of what gaveme the momentum to do cool stuff like
this was having a having a followingthat I could kind of leverage to you
know, share my work. Andthen before I knew it, people were
reaching out to me to buy photographsand I was selling them. And then
I was like, and then intwenty eighteen, I said, what if
I quit my job and just travelaround playing golf. I bet I could

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find a way to you know,make a living in golf. I had
enough kind of savings at the timeto give it a go at that at
that point, and I jumped offand it was the best decision I ever
did. Purchased an RV and drovearound the country playing golf, played about
four hundred courses that year, juston my own. Just hey, if
this is just go and play stuff, and you know, so it worked

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out. I ended up kind ofjumping from one place to another and becoming
a professional golf course photographer, founda way to string the string the paychecks
together, or to pay rent anduh uh and build my business every single
year since then as a as aphotographer and I write, I do uh,
I do social media. I've actuallyjust had my first book. We're

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taking pre orders for it, whichis which is a cool thing to have
my photography published. You know,I've been in all the all the big
magazines and stuff. But to createyour own book and to to push it
out there's as a really cool,really cool thing. And so tell us
about that, tell us about whatit is and how to get it.
Well, yeah, well it's preorder now. I've got the link in
my uh, in my bio.I've I've I've sent out some stuff there

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through the Back Nine Press. It'scalled the the Golf Courses of New England.
And if if you know talking aboutgolf travel, if you know about
golf across America, New England hassome spectacular golf courses. Doesn't quite get
as much love as because of someof its neighbors in New York, and

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have garnered a little bit more ofthe press. But we've got a book
coming out, so we'll knock yoursocks off some of the photography. And
I'm just going through, uh,we're finishing up the final touches on some
of the images and it's just like, oh man, I love this course
so much. It's such a coolfoot but it just takes me down memory
lane. And for those that havehad the chance to play in New England.
They know how good it can be, and hopefully that in this book

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I think does a great job ofrepresenting that. So I would suggest you
guys pre order it will do.Yeah, definitely another golf book that we'll
have to. My birthday is comingup, so oh, there we go.
We'll have to get that to Harry. You mentioned Instagram. You mentioned,
you know, playing so many golfcourses. I saw a reel on

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your Instagram, your golfers behind you. We can see so much swag up
on the walls. Talk about that. You said four hundred courses last year,
talk about your golfers, the viewand maybe there's maybe one piece of
memorabilia you can pick out that's prettycool and if there's a story behind it.
Yeah. Yeah, So the foreignercourses was not last year. Four

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hundred courses was twenty eighteen, whichgave me an idea to do to set
the world record, which I playedlast year. I played five hundred and
eighty courses, which I said,yeah, yeah, so there's where that's
where the big number comes in.But the funny thing is that this is
all the stuff. So I purchasedan RV and I hung all this stuff
up inside the RV. So everytime I go to a golf course,

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I just get like a little trinket, ball mark, or you know some
of the things you see behind me. The ballmarks were great because they were
small. I don't have those onthe wall. This wall would be like
blacked out. And I put Ijust put them all over the RV.
So as I'm driving around, Ihave these little kind of memorabilias from everywhere
that I went that past this pastyear, and so I turned it into

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you know, I brought my memoriesinside with me. So every time I'm
on a on a podcast or working, I'm surrounded by all these great stories,
because that's what these things are.They're not it's not like a collection
thing is It's it's for memories ofstories and people. And I'm looking one
over my I'm never good at thisover my shoulder, the little golden plate
there, which is from my friendsin Sri Lanka. I was recently just

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on a trip with with Troon inSri Lanka. And most people don't think,
let's go to Sri Lanka to playsome golf. I don't think most
people say most people don't know whereit is. Yeah, it's down off
the tip of indias An Island andit looks exactly like that little gold plate
right there. And they were sofriendly, they were so happy to have

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me out there, and I've gotsome great photographs that. It's a place
called Victoria Golf Links and it's quitethe little resort there. They've got a
couple like stay in play so youcan stay on the property and play the
and play the golf. And afterthe general manager afterwards was so so grateful
that they presented me with this goldenplate. Wow. So it's like it's

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definitely going in the golf office andand happily displayed on the wall. You
know, each one of these thingsis like this is a story like that,
So we could go in you know, if you had a nine hour
podcast, we could probably be afew are and that's not even me.
I could I could bust out theseventeen hundred scorecards that I've got from every
course that I've ever played in mylife, and we could go through story

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time with those as well. Sowe're in credible. Yeah, we're availables
right now. You talk about thatInstagram it's at PJ Kanig. And then
of course you got the website Pjkanigdot com and you're on Twitter as well
at Patrick J. Kanig. ButI want to get back to the transition
that you made out of a salescareer to you know, going around the

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world playing golf and documenting and asa guy who made a big career change
late in life. I went frommedical sales into sports radio at the age
of forty. Okay, so Iknow there was trepidation, and I didn't
even have any wife and kids.I just had a house and a Harley
Davidson that I had to sell.But talk about you know, any sleepless
nights when you were trying to makethat move and anything where you're saying,

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man, did I do the rightthing here? Yeah? I mean early
on you definitely think that because you'relike, boy, I just didn't really
have it. It's I had ajob or a plan per se. It's
made it even more ridiculous. Ihad a plan, but it was just
to play golf all over the countryand see what context I could dig up.
That's what I point of expected Imight have to go back to sales,

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but it was that like, hey, I'm just going to jump off
and throw myself one hundred percent intogolf and golf photography. That allowed me
to realize what my potential was.And then I was cool with like it's
like, hey, I tried this, like you know, I didn't.
I gave it one hundred percent anddidn't work out. But what I find
is that and I think this istrue just about anybody. So I give

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this advice all the time. Isthat like if you jump off, like
I feel like you're more resilient thanyou You know that you you even believe
of you're way more capable than youthink. You're not going to find out
until you til you give it aone hundred percent in a try. So
that was the that was the pointwhen I jumped off in twenty eighteen and

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ended up you know, I endedup working out, But there is a
there is some points where you're like, you know, gosh, man,
I got divorced on that first tour, and I was like, what the
hell am I doing? I wentto play golf and now I'm like getting
divorced, Like what's wrong with mypriorities? Are so messed up? And
part of that was probably true,you know, looking back is like,
yeah, but I followed my passion, and now I've got a great girlfriend

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and she's supportive of my last yearof you know, five hundred and eighty
courses. So I mean, comeon, she's not the one. I
don't. I mean, what sortof girlfriend allows their boyfriend to play five
hundred eighty golf courses? Moose istrying to play golf twice a week?
Yeah, come on, We've gotshe set the bar so so low.
You guys are like, all right, this guy got a full year.

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Can I how about just give mea month to do whatever? That's still
why do you think we have thesetype of guests on Harry. She listens
to the podcast. I'm just tryingto lay some groundwork. Yeah, you
know, I'm broadcasting right now froma glass case of emotion down the shore
because you know, we had togo to the beach today because I was
off and I had to find aplace where I can come record the podcast.
So I found a little shout outto Drift Spaces in Ocean City.

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If you ever need a space spaceto record your podcast, go for it.
I wanted to ask you, andwe asked this of of Jimmy James
when he did his book Just atoll. It takes on your body.
And I'm curious, right, thethe the Truant Tour was was shorter,
right, two weeks, five countries, where the RGV Tour was it was
a full year, which one washarder. And with both of them,

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what do you have to do tokind of prepare and stay in shape and
not get like beat down by playingthis much golf. Yeah, it's a
good question, and the answer isactually pretty simple because I never got tired
of golf, which I think iswhich kind of makes me a little bit
of a sicko as well. ButI never got tired, and I think

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that's because at least on the tour, you know, you were met with
people that had energy every single day, and it was a new golf course,
and so like even if you wakeup you're like, oh guy,
we're playing golf again. You know, you quickly were able to run into
somebody that was like, oh,hell yeah, let's you know, the
tour is here, they see thebus pulling up, they're all stoked.

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And then then your your attitude goesup with them. You know, you're
you follow that energy and that andjust that excitement to play golf every single
day. So I never got tired, not once, not sick or tired
of golf. Last year, theTroon trip was, uh, you know,
that was two weeks around the world, and that was a little more
a little more challenging because it wasyou know, it was shorter timeframe,

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but like the travel was brutal,you know, sixteen hour flights and like
you're just NonStop. Sometimes that's moreexhausting than playing the golf, is the
travel. Right In anything, hedid like, you know, get yourself
rejuvenated. You know, I didhave a couple of breaks, Like,
you know, if you play eighteenholes in golf, that's a little pubby.

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He's gonna sit on my lap.He's chewing up all my golf books
right now. But yeah, youknow, so I did have like when
you're playing that much golf, fivehundred and eighty rounds of golf in a
single year, a eighteen holes islike a break, you know. And
then by the afternoon. What wouldactually happen is by the time the afternoon

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rolls around, I'd be jones andI'd be like, oh, let's just
go play another eighteen most of thetime, but you know, if sometimes
I would have to drive, orjust to do some photography. Just editing
photos is kind of a peaceful thingto me. Anybody that's a photographer kind
of knows that that's a that's kindof a fun thing to polish up your
work and really kind of come upwith that gem that you're happy to share.

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So those things for me were veryI don't know, meditative or kind
of rejuvenating. I had all sortof activities like that that I that I
would do that weren't necessarily golf,that got me excited for the next round
of golf. And you know,living in that RV was was It was
much better than hotels. So ifyou're in an RV, it's kind of

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like, I got all my stuffthere, it's my home. Like you
get off the round of golf andthen you go into the parking lot and
ban like you're at your house.So that really helps with the whole NonStop,
five hundred and eighty rounds of golfin a in a single year.
What about the golf game, thehandicap improved and it luctuate up and down.

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You would think and hey, well, you know, I'm a single
digit so like any movement wasn't likeit wasn't like I went from like fourteen
to scratch. But I think Istarted about a five and I had been
down to scratch before I started abouta five, and then I got down
to scratch. I think it waslike point plus two point point two or
something. So I was scratching slightlyabove it for a hot second. And

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what happens is you get really goodat the short game. Uh you know,
you're you're putting becomes very dialed,and you get very good at switching
grasses. I mean I played onevery single surface. You know this isn't
I'm not playing on PGA Tour whereit's like dialed in the same speed every
time. It's like, No,these were from like I don't know if
any fourteen's, but maybe most peoplesay fourteen like they play them all the

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time. It's like a once ina lifetime thing that you get to play
a fourteen. But I definitely somespeedy, speedy greens at some of the
nation's best courses around member guest time, and then someones that were just complete
junkers. And then you know,when I would chip, I'd be like,
man, if I don't get thisup and down, I'm gonna be
pissed. And that's that's the mindsetof a scratch golfer. Not not necessarily

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pissed, but like I would beshocked. I'd be like, I'd just
bring my wedge. If it wasan easy chip, I'm like, I'm
chipping this to a foot or inand and it was pretty reliable, you
know. So that's that's some goodstuff right there. That's what scratch golfers
do. And I was. Iwas there and if I hit a pass,
I just putt with my wedge,you know, I'm I. I
I was not, you know,I was. There's times where you kind

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of just going through the motions andthe score is not the most important thing,
right It's the people, it's theplaces, it's the experience. And
I learned to I learned to liveand breathe that and that allowed me to
I think I got like maybe onceto play. There's one time the play
got away from me and I kindof lost my focus or enjoyment or whatever
it was. It was just adifferent headspace that I was in. It

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wasn't good. I shot I thinkshot shot ninety one was my high score.
So I shut away from sixty sevento ninety one. Wow, nice
range, well five hundred and eightycourses Monarch Beach to Chambers Bay and in
an RV. Now I've gone aroundthe country in an RV and spend a
bunch of that time in a repairshop. These things break down. I

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need to know about that, andI need to know were you doing the
driving all the time or did youhave a driver and you could sort of
sleep, take a nap on yourway to the next round. That sounds
like luxury having a driver. No, I drove. I was the only
one that drove that thing. Allforty thousand miles were me, which would
have been That's a huge I wouldhave been able to get so much more
done had I, you know,had a driver, you know, three

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hours here, three hours there,every single day, being able to do
social media or edit photos or whateverit is would have been great. But
nope, I was driving, andthen when I wasn't, then that thing
was breaking down. To hold thecow, we got ourselves a lemon.
Right off the bat. It wasbad. Right off the bat was when
everything started breaking down. It's brandnew RV. Drive it off the lot

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and things just start falling off it. The folks over at Forest River kind
of threw this thing together during theCOVID rush. Everybody wanted to be an
RV during COVID and forest rivers like, let's make him as fast as we
can. We don't care about qualityanymore. And it was just it was

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absurd. I've gotten far enough awayfrom it, and I think I've blacked
it out in my mind. ButI used to be able to just run
down the list of things that waswrong with this thing, and it would
take like twenty five There's an Instagrampost where I go through it in like
the first month. But I meanit was everything from like the windshield wipers,
to the electricity, to the tothe water, to all of the

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cabinets. I mean, I'm missingmajor things here that we're like, we're
just breaking down. I mean,the door was the front door. The
only way in and out of thatthing was a pain in the but it
was improperly installed from the entire thewhole way climbing in like Dukes of Hazzard.
Oh there was one time, Yeah, the steps ripped off. There's
like these extending steps that I thoughtwere initially pretty cool. It was like,

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oh, you open the door,these steps come down. It was
like, no, not cool.I had them like taped up after they
broke for I think maybe at leasthalf the trip they were they were secured
up. Just to not have todeal with them was like jumping in to
the RV, climbed into the doorone time when the whole thing malfunctioned and
had to get to a tea timereal fast, you know. So it

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was that was that was people lovethat. They loved watching me because they
you know, they see, here'sthis guy gets played as golf courses and
it was a little bit of like, you know, it's not it's not
all roses. When you're playing,it sucks. And you know, I
earned my tea times by by travelingand going through all that stuff. So,
uh, people loved watching me inmisery with that thing. Oh it

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was. It was. It wasby far the biggest obstacle within the first
like three four months, it was. It was. Yeah, it was
tough. Eventually we got it intoThere are a couple periods where it was
like operating at like you know,almost nothing broken. The rule of the
RV was that and I never fixedeverything, so there was never I was
like, there's nothing to fix onthis RV because as soon as I would

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within an hour, something would breakagain. It happened like five or six
times, and so I'm like,I'm always going to leave something broken.
It needs to be partly broken inorder to operate. And there was a
couple of stretches where I had likemonths where it was like it was it
was humming man. So you mentionedit briefly just about the people you met
along the way, right, AndI know us even doing this podcast,
we've met some incredible people in theworld of golf. They seem to gravitate

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towards that sport. What's give me? Give me someone or a couple of
people maybe that stood out to youthat surprised you, or you just had
an incredible personal experience along the way. Yeah, my buddy Sean can't wins
this a word. Every time somebodyrings him up. He can't beat this
guy. He's he's loud, he'stall, he's he's bold, he's a

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he's a criminal defense attorney out ofSouth Carolina. We played the Chiyote Club
together. He's got these big yellowThe first words he said to me,
he was like you, And Imean I was like that, I can't
even I can't mimic this guy.He was on the news the other day
he had somebody acquitted of trials anduh and he quoted outcasts. He was

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like, to quote the venerable poetsoutcast. This acquittal is forever ever means
that it's not coming out. Thisguy's a legend in the town, in
the city at city and state ofSouth Carolina, and just in the south.
You got murder charges acquitted on thefront nine while I was playing with
He's like, kind of a bigdeal because again, didn't happen too often.

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It's like you just happened when you'reon the golf course. He's like,
no, that that's that's new.And I was like, man,
I feel like I could stab Steveand our group there and get acquitted on
you're my guy. He's like,go ahead. He's a confident, bold
guy. And I love Sean.He's a special dude. But you know,

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to have just one person it isso so unrepresentative of the tour.
There were so many interesting stories andpeople that you know, sadly that I
that I you know, met andforgotten about. With the fifteen hundred people
that I that I played with,that's the one thing is I kind of
wish, I know, you wishlike this day was so especially like I

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want to write about this day itwas so good, but you're like,
nope, this is just the morningand or like you got again, and
so some of that that it wasa whirlwind, you know, it was
just this experience that I tried mybest to. You know, there's a
book coming out too, that's athat's a tough one to write because I
want to make its great as thatyear was, so people can can buy
it and read that and get inspired. And that's going to be that's going

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to be a special thing for mewhen I get that completed and it calpulates
encapsulates my first tour as well,which was kind of like more of like
I don't know what I'm doing tolike, and now I'm setting a world
record. These two tours are reallycool. And the writing that I've got
so far, I think is likeit's it's vulnerable, it's you know,
it's it's honest, and it's fun, and it's it's a beautiful book.

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And so that's that's one that youknow through the back nine Press as well,
a little more difficult to write whenyou're traveling all over the world,
going to Sri Lanka and stuff.But eventually we'll get there and that book
will be on shelves for people toread and hopefully be inspired by. Do
we have a timeline for that?I can't. I can't, you know,
because it's like I'm writing the secondI've got the first part done.

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But then if you're writing a book, like I don't know if you guys
have written read one or you guysread a book. I've read one.
Yeah, yeah, I read writingOne's like you have to read It's like
reading the same chapter ten times becausethere's you know, punctuation can make a
paragraph sing, and that's just likethoughts and things here or there, so

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a couple of words. You know. I want it to be my best
work and something I'm proud of,that something I can pull off the shelf
when I'm eighty and read again andjust be like, wow, you know
that was that was me and thatwas really cool. And there's no typos
in this thing. So that's that. But you know, within a year
or two, I feel like itslows down. Summertime right now, I'm

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so busy with golf course photography.You know, it's great that people are
booking me left and right, anduh, that's my job. So I
got to stay busy with that andyou know, come probably the downtime or
like you know, as we getinto the winter time, as long as
those tropical destinations don't call, Ican sit down and start writing some some

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book. Yeah, you mentioned RhodeIsland has a lot of appearances in your
upcoming book. What about Newport withthe US Senior Open coming up, any
imagery or anything of that up inthere. No, the Newport Newport Country
Club is is uh is one thatwas on my list, but it didn't
work out between me and Newport.It's extremely private. It's a tough tea

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time to get I did have myI had to hand out two of my
so on the on the on theRGV tour two point zero, I had
something called the Jibbroni Award, andthere was it was for people that were
out out of line. They wereit was uncalled for behavior and Rhode Island

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has great golf courses. I hadto hand out two Jibbroni Awards. I
hate to do it to Rhode Island. Yeah, there was only five on
the entire tour, so out ofthe fifteen hundred, I only ran into
five people's that are ejectionable. Oneof the smallest states in the country to
know, right, the highest Broniper capita ran insane skew towards h Rhode

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Island. But uh, you knowthat the big golf is still great there.
I was just looking at pictures ofWanamatonymy just before this call, and
I was like, oh man,this this golf course was so awesome.
It's a rainer right on the oceanthat nobody even talks about. You know.
It's just like these hidden little gemsall over the place in New England,
and that's that was one of them. But yeah, the jibbronis in

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its Rhode Island. Well, totallyfalse statement. There's no Jibbroni's in Philly,
which is where we're all from.So let's take it to Philly.
We're Philly based podcast. Talk aboutthe best golf course that you've been to
in the Philadelphia area. Oh man, well it's got to be. I
mean, you guys claim Pine Valley, right, I feel like, yeah,
I mean that's Pine Valley is goingto win. What's the best golf

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course and it should by a mile. It's it's spectacularly good on every single
hole. There's really no we holdsit Pine Valley, which I don't think
there's another golf course that I wouldsay that about with a straight face.
And but yeah, maybe this isthe couple here or there. Like you
bring up Pebble Beach, one thatmost everybody knows about and if you played

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it, you know I'm talking aboutthere's a stretch there, you know,
right after the high of you know, seven, eight nine, and you
come around in ten and eleven,then there's some kind of ho hum holes
down the stretch. And that's stillI mean, Pebble Beach is a fantastic
golf course, and there's just there'sjust it's so impossible to build a golf
course where you don't say, hey, as a golf course designer, we've

(26:38):
got to get from A to Bhere and do this, and like,
we're not going to have an allworld hole right here. And almost everybody
says that except for Pine Valley saidno, we're they're all going to be
just that good. So we cango on and on about Pine Valley all
day, and you can sure pindcastI always said, like, it feels
like each hole is like its owngolf court. Like, I don't know

(27:00):
that sounds really weird, But whenyou're on that hole, you you don't
think about any of the other holes, right, It's just you're playing individual
holes. It's number eight. Youhave the option of two different greens.
Yeah, yeah, some of themare like that. And it's and it
really is. If you look atthat type of golf hold, there's only,
right, only so many types ofgolf holes that we can we can

(27:21):
build. They all have little variations, but Pine Valley has a legitimate claim
that every one of those holes isthe best of its kind, which is
insane. It's just that good ofa of a golf course. You know,
there's and there's no shortage of goodstuff in Philly. I love Rolling
Green. I think Rolling Green doesn'tget as much as much love as it
should on this show. Does onthis show, it's the most it's the

(27:42):
most mentioned golf course on the show. All of our guests. Yeah,
old William Flynn there as my friendMayda Malone out there. He's a fantastic
host at it. Rolling Green spentthe night in that parking lot in the
back corner there right off of that. What's the par three? Is that
the the Tenthal whether it's the thirdhole too? That the part three that

(28:04):
were dan right by the clubhouse.What is it? Ten? I think
it's well yeah, yeah, tenyeah, coming back up. Yeah,
And anyway, so I spent thenight right there, so you know,
I love that spot. But Imean, Marion is is, Mariyan is
Mary and most people know and lovethat. What were some some other ones

(28:25):
that I was gosh, what's theremember the holes? It's a Donald Ross.
It's got a little doughnut bunker onthe eighteenth toll. Even more,
there's a real tough I played AroonomyCoronomic is really good. But there's another
one. It's the name is eludingme, which it's not. Philly Cricket

(28:47):
a good one. I played PhillyCricket with Jimmy James. He's a part
of this. So you know,Jimmy, that's awesome. Jimmy. I
was gonna say, if you don'tknow each other, you two have to
connect. Oh yeah, Jimmy andI I love that guy. I mean
I've played I've met him a handfulof time times and I just love his
uh, his energy and uh,Jeff Jeffersonville is a ross that he said,

(29:07):
super exclusive, super exclusive ross.Well, you mentioned it. You
just have to shoot us a tweetera text and if Harry doesn't, if
Harry's not, if it's not comingto him, I mean Riverton. Yea,
wait what you said with a bebe? I mean, yeah, that's
just that's just it's on the tipof my tongue, you know. That's

(29:30):
and that's a swelling past. No, no, it's right, it's right
in Philly. I remember when whenwhat did you say, don't there's a
don like a circular doughnut. That'swhat little circular pop bunker on the eighteenth
Toll. It's like this uphill eighteenthToll. There's a couple of really cool
four five's out there. No,that's exclusive played. Yeah, I played

(29:57):
that one on the tour. Idon't know. Of course, people are
screaming right now. Listen. Itis because I remember we played Marion and
oh gosh, it was right there. My host was like, well,
you know, Marion's nice, butlike you're going to want to play this
one. It's it's probably more difficultytime to get the Mary. I was
like, oh, that's we shouldprobably go. Then, Yeah, I'm

(30:18):
gonna I'm gonna pull it up onmy on my website here because because we
need to know, because I mean, I'm even sending text out. We
went from Philly Crickets Lulu in oneday. Then you went to Lanark to
Rolling Green, Ironomic to Ledge Rock, which is up in Burks Camp.
It's with the G. It startswith the G. It's Golf Mills.

(30:38):
Oh oh, I don't even thaton here. Okay, well that's that's
right across the street from my house. Yeah, it's a great one.
Both Mills is is spectacular. Yeah, I just got to find the tab
where you great. Our listeners aregoing to love you because you just shout
out to three quarters of our courses, which is all he speaks volume to

(31:00):
the lucky. There's so much iswhite Man or is that a Philly course?
That's close? Yeah, that's chesterChester. Yeah, with the with
the bucket team markers. I thoughtit was really I'm playing White Matter tomorrow.
Actually oh well gosh, yeah,there's a there's another one, Lard.

(31:22):
Yeah, I played that one.It's really good. Rolling Green and
Lanark in the same day, justPhilly. You can just go you can
go so deep. And you know, my friend Tom Coyn is also a
Philly guy, so we're friends withhim. Yeah, he's been on this
podcast a couple weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tom is Tom
is awesome. He's I caught upwith Tom and uh Sullivan County. Yeah,

(31:44):
you played his course up there,right, Yes, yeah, he's
he's a part of the world record. We're gonna we're gonna try to get
there. So Danielle's hasband Brandon hoststhe neep Invitation on the Country caub of
Scranton, which is Spectacles, wason the tour as well. He played
after her. I was around andI got too far from Sullivan County.

(32:04):
Oh, you guys reminded me ofa good, good couple of days there.
I did. The country cob Scrantonis my top It's probably my top
ten because the course is fantastic andthe people that I had were like just
some of the most awesome folks,also the earth folks. Yeah, I
kept my house and I was like, he came and I liked him so
much, I guess like, yeah, come and stay in my house while
I'm like driving around the country.He came out to lagoona Beach and stayed

(32:27):
at my house. But like I'vejust I loved the energy and the people
at the country cover of Scranton,and like the golf course is super underappreciated
by you know, like the golfnerds and the architect type people get it
and love it. And but it'sone of those that I always said,
if that were an hour closer toPhiladelphia, it would be considered the top.

(32:49):
Yes, oh yeah, it's it'sa special place. Just it really
Yeah. Oh and what's the onewhere they just played the US Women's Open
Lancaster Lancaster. Yeah, I'd say, correct, Harry, I'll come for
you. That's so that's a funnystory. So it was. I played
out there on my first tour intwenty eighteen and I hadn't really heard of

(33:10):
it and most people have never heardof it, and I was like,
this place is insanely good. It'slike, why are we not why are
we not screaming this place? Iwas like, oh, this is definitely
hitting gem. He's like, well, we got to use Women's Open like
five years and people will hear aboutit then. And I was like,
all right, and it's true.You know, if you watched any golfer
paid attention to golf that week.Uh, that course got rave reviews,
as it should. I mean,it's one of those it's just a peach.

(33:34):
Well, now, I know youraised forty thousand some odd dollars for
the First Tea through this whole venture, which is really cool. I wanted
to get that out there because we'rebig fans of the First Tea here at
Philadelphia as well. But I wantedto just ask you one quick, last
one. What is it about golffor you that just makes you love it
so much? I mean, canyou put your finger on it? Yeah?

(33:55):
I wish, I wish there wasone thing, But I think that's
the thing about golf that's not onething. You know, it's there's so
many things to love about it.It's kind of overwhelms you and from and
it's changed for me. What makesme so? I mean it could be
just competition. It could it couldbe kind of the feet of achieving something
that seems so difficult to do,hitting that tiny ball in the hole.

(34:17):
It could be it could be friendship. It could be exercise. It could
be religion. It could be photography. It could be travel, all these
different things that golf is just likein spades does a fantastic job of achieving
with just the sport is so isso good and for me, I really
love love it for the lessons.You know, I start looking at it

(34:40):
like what's the one thing that thatI love the most? But like one
of the things that's golf has givenme that I cherished the most aside from
a career, is made me abetter person. And that's that's something that
I if I when I was alittle kid, I kind of heard that
or saw that was possible, andI was like, I don't know how

(35:01):
that's gonna happen. How is thatgoing to happen? But if you want
to stick in golf, there's certainthings you have to do well, Like
if you want to be successful orenjoy it, like you have to be
honest. You have to be honestwith yourself. You have to learn anger
control, anger management, which wasa problem for me as a little little
kid. I was it was Iwrecked some rounds of golf just being pissed
off. And does that doesn't happenanymore? And that's that's so cool?

(35:24):
And you know that and I don'tget mad in life, Like, I
mean, everybody gets mad, right, You get mad, something happens,
it doesn't go your way, andget pissed, but I know how to
deal with it. And it's likethat's such a blessing. That's made my
relationships better and it's just made mylife better. And so it's just like
I owe so much to golf andso like when you hear people talking about
what golf has given them that havebeen successful in it, it's like,

(35:46):
I understand now what it is thatyou can gain from a sport. And
you don't really do that when youapply passion and and just just delve into
it one hundred percent and so andand and I think just even the the
casual player can can realize that golfingkind of can make you a better person
in some ways. And so andthe person I am today largely because of

(36:09):
golf. And uh, I thinkanybody that's been around me can kind of
testify to that tremendous, Well,this was a blast we have, we
could do, we could go onfor more out more out I've had somewhere
like and they just keep going whenwe will be on for like and I'm
like, not even uh, wetake a little tour of Philly. That

(36:30):
was fun. Yeah, that wasreally cool, the tour of Philly,
a little bit of New England,even the Jabroni's in Rhode Island. Those
guys were They're a story if nothingelse, and so it was fun to
share a little portion of my myjourneys with you, guys, and so
thank you very much. If youget back this way, let us know.
Pizza and bigs are here. He'slike, yeah, what a podcast,

(36:52):
let's go. Great job. Theyhung with us for the whole thing.
Pretty cool, very cool, pastvery much. Sure you check him
out following. Great story. Weappreciate you sharing with us. Man,
thanks a lot, great talking.Thanks for having me on guys. That
was fun. Thank you. Yougot it all right, Let's take a
quick break. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to Swing
It and Ding It. Great talkingto Patrick kinik Man. I mean we

(37:15):
just scratched the surface. Let's yeah, but it talks for hours. Yeah,
I mean making me feel bad though, because I still get angry on
the course. I I haven't figuredthat part out yet, which maybe I
can have his words, you know, echo a little bit in my head
and try to control it a littlebit more, but I still can let
one whole ruin the next three.Yeah. Yeah, Well it's fun when,

(37:36):
like, you know, we couldn'tthink of golf mills. It's fun
when you're like trying to think ofa chorus and giving clues and you know,
yeah, I couldn't figure it outbecause I've never been on it.
Shout out to anybody listening that canget us on golf mill because it's my
house. Yeah, yeah, yep. Well, it was great talking to
him. We talked about all iconicplaces Pinehurst number two qualify for that for

(38:00):
sure, and what a US Openthat we got to see Bryson Deshambeau,
the People's champ, wins the onehundred and twenty fourth US Open in Pinehurst
number two for his second major.Yeah, all the things, the SMU,
the Payne Stewart, I mean,the signature shot, the parsave on
eight on eighteen fifty five yard sandshot to four feet. Obviously, the

(38:22):
other side you have Rory Who's upto who? Bogie's fifteen sixteen eighteen missing
two par putts inside four feet.This to me, this Sunday of the
of a Major had everything that youwant in it to keep you entertained,
and it certainly did. And it'sfunny because we, you know, all
of us last week were saying thatwe just didn't feel like this was a

(38:45):
Bryson type event. Yeah, wasthe way the course was set up,
But no one told Bryson that that'sfor sure, because he came, he
did what he had to do andgot it done. Yeah, that's one
of the many things that stands outto me. I mean, I was
fading him because I didn't I didn'tlike, come on, that golf course
shows what he can play any golfcourse. Now you plot Bryson on any
of the golf courses that Patrick Kaneygets played, and he will go shoot

(39:07):
a number. I mean, theguy's just incredible. He just adapts.
I couldn't take my eyes off ofa moose and I was rooting so hard
for him, and I know NBCand Faxon says the whole world's rooting for
Rory. My wife and I lookedat each other on the couch like we're
not. I couldn't. I couldn'tbe cheering for Bryson to shamba hard enough

(39:29):
on Sunday, and it was justbrilliant drama, the fact that you know,
they were tied at six under afterRory makes that bogey from inside three
feet on sixteen and I'm like,wow, he's got you know, he
was up too, like two holesbrought prior to that, You're thinking,
here here comes the carnation. Youknow, Rory's gonna you know, through
the peacock Walker, you know,right up the eighteenth fairway, and it's

(39:50):
you know, it's gonna be great. He's back his first major in ten
years, and all all the storiesyou know will come out of that,
and no, it's it's just unbelievable. You can't script That's why sports is
the greatest, like reality television,which you know we've been witnessing on networks
since what what is it? Survivorcame out. I guess that's what started

(40:13):
all that. That's all scripted crap. I mean, sports is the ultimate
reality show. And it was justunbelievable. I can't wait to watch him,
you know again at the Open Championshiphere in a couple of weeks.
I thought, you're going to seethe Olympics now, Oh yeah, right,
that's a whole other story. Ohyeah, my goodness me seriously,
literally doing. What are we doing? Well? I got segue into this.

(40:36):
I mean, of course it wason the LIV social, but it's
they said, thoughts on this justwith like the I emoji, like looking
to the side, So like,is you know, bryceon the best in
the world. So they have bardonme, Bryson Masters T six PG Championship
second US Open first. Then wehave Scotti Scheffler the Masters first PG Championship
T a US Open T forty one. We'll talk shot Scotty in a little

(41:00):
bit. Xander Master's eighth PG Championship, first US Open T seven, Morikawa
Masters T three PG Championship T four, US Open T fourteen, Wyndham Clark
Master's Cut PG Championship cut US OpenT fifty six. What do we do?
They're saying, what are we doing? The best in the world,
yet we give him the snub onthe Olympics. I was going to ask

(41:22):
you guys, like, what dowe think of Bryson? Are we fans
of Rison? Is he now aman of the people? Harry answered that
question. He gave twenty five thousandTwitter followers, twenty five thousand YouTube subscriber
subscribers, one hundred thousand Instagram followers, and his Google Search interest is up
two hundred and fifty percent. SoHarry's on board. The rest of the
world's on board. Moose, areyou on board? Listen? I've been

(41:44):
in Bryson fan you know, Ilove the whole distance thing. I actually
know a couple young ladies that evenslid into those dms after watching Bryson.
Yeah. So I don't know ifhe still knows what a woman is.
I think he's trying to figure thatpart out, but he's got everything else
figured out. We got a girlfriend, apparently, I thought he did.
That was my search I was lookingthrough, you know, like I and

(42:06):
what I do is you know itfor a living is has a lot to
do with people and reading people andknowing people. And you know, for
a while, I'm like, isthis is this an act? Right?
Like, yeah, I'm still notconvinced it isn't I I turned the corner.
Well, first of all, youknow, he's quirky, he's strange
that that's just who he is.But you know, you don't sit around
for two hours and let everyone touchthe trophy if if you really don't want

(42:28):
them to write, Like there's veryfew people that would have done that,
and then he goes back to theneighborhood where he's staying. He goes out
in the middle of the street likehe like to me, you can't you
can't fake that, right, Youcan fake a little bit of it,
like, hey, I'm here forthe people, but when you're when you're
doing it for that long, whenyou're telling people, you literally look out
through a crowd of thousands people andsay stick around, everyone's going to touch
this trophy. Like no one elsewas going to do that in that moment

(42:51):
right now. Yeah, I mean, we know Rory would not have done
that at all, but we alsoknow we're looking at two different complete people,
two different age brackets. Everything.Like Bryson rolls around the PGA tour.
Didn't let him roll around with thatsocial media marketing team. That's why,
you know, part of the reasonhe went to Live. He's like,
look, let's do this. ButI feel like I feel like somebody

(43:12):
on LIV was like, come on, if you guys, like, if
this happens, if one of youguys win this, you need to do
a B and C. Well youknow what they said too. They said
that the fact that he's playing onthis team, They said these guys will
hold him accountable and like call himout on his bs. Where before he
was like a lone wolf, right, he was different and he stayed in
his own lane. I think havingpeople around him and live where they could

(43:34):
go, Come on, you goofball? What do you doing? Like breaking
stones and like the normal stuff thata team does. I think that's kind
of humbled him and made him morelikable and just more relatable. I mean,
listen, he gets the engagement side, he gets the golf in twenty
twenty four. He knows how towrite. I mean, you know,
playing with Page, playing with thegood good guys, like he gets that
part of it and Histube Page,like he's not just a golfer. He

(43:57):
is, he's an entertainer. Buthe's like remember when when Ryan Howard was
up the bat, you had towatch it, right, It's like when
Bryson's hitting a golf ball, youhave to see what he's going to do.
Yeah, just the way even letgo that he goes. He says
loud enough to his caddie like,uh, kind of want to hit driver
here, don't know if I should. And then you hear the gallery like
like whatever he plays up to itlike, yeah, no doubt, Yeah,

(44:22):
no doubt. He has the marketing, you know, spot off.
Yeah, let's go through the let'sgo through the top real quick. So
you obviously went to win. RoryCan't who was hanging around good week,
you know, that's finished in themajor thirty majors that he's playing. It's
interesting because when you look at thefinal round scores, right, Bryson was

(44:43):
plus one, Rory was minus one, Can't, Lea was even. Fenw
was minus three. So he jumpsup the third pavone plus one, prov
he is he is? Russell Henleywas was minus three, goes T seven,
right, Xander goes T two ona Sunday, gets himself up in
the T seven. About that,Sam Burns making an appearance a team three
under on the final day. Andthen you have Kopka right, who gets

(45:07):
twenty six tied with Shipley, whichwe got to get that guy on.
He's amazing. Cam Smith, whoI loved to a lot of people,
like thirty second and we talked aboutScheffler forty forty. First, what was
Tony's final round score? Female?Yeah, three under? Yeah, okay,
I mean I was rooted for himpretty hard at the end too.
I mean, he's just such alikable guy. He's just got to get

(45:27):
that kid. If he always Isay it every week, if he got
that killer instinct and wanted to smashpeople don't. I don't know if anyone
could beat him. He just doesn'tseem to have that. Like and he
leaves, you know, he walksoff the grad and he goes, you
know, I tried my best,but I got my kids and this is
the best. Like, he's justhe's so nice. Yeah. How about
Daniel Berger with a T twenty one. Yeah, I had him in a
top ten. I liked him,but he didn't quite get there. Yeah.

(45:50):
Close. Yeah. And I thinkone of the stars of the week
was Johnson Is Johnson Wagner. Imean this guy second Bunker did it was
amazing. I mean, you knowthat was that was just unbelievable television.
When he's in there and then Brysonshows and he coached and through the second
one of it. It's funny becauseMichael came Who's great on Twitter? He

(46:13):
was the first one I saw,Like as soon as he hit that shot,
he goes, I can't wait tosee Johnson Wagner in that Bunker later
on tonight, like just everyone waslike waiting for it to happen. Yeah,
but he tweeted it right away assoon as Bryson like one, which
is awesome. Yeah, and Brysonhas I think Bryson started a new strokes
gain statistic. According to Brandal Chamblee, we need strokes gained good breaks.

(46:36):
Did you hear that during the broadcast, I was jotting all these little things
down that were being said. Uh, it's just amazing that that Rory mcelroid
shows to blow off the media thatdoes nothing but support and cheer him on
after the after the match. Hedidn't show up there with his Omega watch
and go up and scratch his headwith you know, with the hand with
the watch on it like he doeswhen he plays well, what a baby?

(47:00):
If you ask me, he hehad to answer on Netflix, We're
going to see it on NETI that'sthe thing. And that's what Nick Cale
actually brought this up to me.He said, I think it was all
done purposely for Netflix, and I'mthinking, you know that you might be
right. I wish I wish OfficerGillis was around with Rory speed owt that
parking exactly where did you guys seethough, Like the fake dummies hanging on

(47:25):
all the cars early on in theweek. Yeah, God, Like,
I mean I didn't see it,Butander told me about it. Somebody showed
up in a member guest I thinkin Louisville or Lewisville, according to Scotti
Scheffler, he called it Lewisville.Yeah, but I mean, listen,
an incredible US Open wold would youthink about Pineharris? But actually why you

(47:46):
know? So much said about youknow, the course all week? Well,
I mean it's just it's absolutely brutal. I don't know if I want
to play it, but uh,you know, prior to Sunday's drama filled
finish, I think a lot ofthe story would have been about Pinehurst being
borderline unfair and sort of making thegolf tournament not that much fun to watch.

(48:07):
And then we got Sunday and allthat stuff's off the table. Now,
see, you know what I like? Whole five on Sunday, Rory's
second shot looked like a look ateagle, let's go and rolled off the
green, just misses the bunker downinto that like native area. Like I'm
like, huh, how the samething happened to him on fifteen. On

(48:28):
the par three, he hit thegreen, but he did it with an
eight iron apparently, or a seveniron. I think I think it was
seven iron. He should have hiteight because he would have had more loft
and it might have held the green. Because that's what Bryson did. He
held the green. Rory goes offinto that native area and makes a chip,
a really nice chip, but itruns too far past miss the comebacker
makes bogey. Yeah. Yeah,brutal. I'd shoot one hundred and sixty

(48:52):
on that golf course. I saidto brand I'm like, I shoot one
hundred and something. He goes downin the first three holes exactly. Yeah,
that second hold, it was brutal. Yeah's brutal. Yeah, brutal.
Uh. Danielle Well yeah, great, great, great US Open though,
I mean, yeah, everything youwant it presented? Well, Yeah

(49:12):
it did. I love the lookof the golf course. Yeah, I
just don't know that I want toplay it. I'd rather just watch others
play it. Yeah, those greencomplexes scare me. I struggled enough a
green valley with their green complexes.There you go, you know, talk
about the green complexes at Scranton too. We're talking. Oh yeah it is
cut it off the green there,Oh yeah, yeah, elephants buried under

(49:36):
Well, how about one of theearlier days, excuse me on I think
it was Friday, kept guy,I forget what hole it was. It
might have been seven, putted fromlike thirty yards off the green, puts
it up onto the green and itrolled into a bunker. He made seven.
Yeah, I mean, you know, Finow and Oberg. Oberg was
having a great week until I thinkit was Saturday where both he and Fenow

(49:58):
made double or triple on this samehole. It might have been thirteen.
They putted from off the green,went off the other side. I mean
it's and they're making triple on weshot after that? Right? Yeah?
Right right? What do I dohere? Yeah? Yeah, I get
this back? Yeah yeah, well, great stuff. Looking forward to the
Open. Danielle t you have sometea for the folks. You guys might

(50:19):
have to cut me off at somepoint. At first, I was like,
there's not too much tea, right, But I was like, oh,
there kind of is a decent amountof tea. We'll keep it with
uh, just roll it from theUS Open right into it and we talked
about Neil Shipley. Was so funnythough, because I had a Google because
the broadcast kept calling him Nate.It's like, wait, is it Neil
or Nate? Why do we keepsaying this? But uh, Neil Shipley.

(50:43):
I was like, Wow, thisguy is going to have a cash
flow. He low am honors atthe Masters and then the US Opening.
I thought it was pretty cool watchinghim And I'm drawing a blank, right
Clanton, Yeah, go back andforth they were, I mean they were
going next compaired together like that waspretty cool. I thought there were so
many just different cool things to watchabout the US Open. But Neil Shipley

(51:06):
OSU grad Bachelors and Quantitative Finance,Math and ECON Masters in Data Analytics.
He finally turned pro. I'm wonderingif he's going to be like Bryce in
two point zero but maybe actually like, for lack of better words, like
a smarter version. And I'd liketo see how meticulous he is with his
stats. But he turned pro andhe's making his pro debut in British Columbia

(51:30):
this week on the PGA Tour ofAmericas. So interested to see and watch
his career, see how he playson that tour if he gets some corn
fairy status and then maybe even someexemptions because now that he's a grad,
he's open to exemptions. So nowis that the tour where they combined the
Latino America and the Canada Canadian?Yeah exactly, Yeah, so yep,

(51:53):
that's exactly what it is, andthat's what's he made Us Pray Pro debut.
So keep an eye on him thisweek see how he plays on that.
This is just general, but JackNicholas spotted at the Panthers game.
It was pretty cool. If youlook, you can see his video of
him hitting the thing and he's watchingthe wearing the sweater. Yeah, yep,

(52:14):
Florida loving it. I saw apicture. I don't know if you
saw this, Danielle, but theguy sitting down in front of where Jack
was standing in that in that suitelooked like Jason Baile. I don't know
if it was him, but ifnot, as a doppelganger of Jason Baile
somewhere in Florida, Okay, Idon't know. I mean if Jason,
if you're listening and if you wentand didn't send me content, you're in

(52:36):
trouble, especially if we were sittingout close to Jack. I'll send you
the picture, Yeah, send itto your hair. We we mentioned Rory
Rory withdraws from the Travelers. He'squote taking a few weeks away from the
game to process everything and get readyto defend Scottish Open and Open, so
we won't see him. We sawlittle bits and pieces all over of social

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He's back with his wife and himand their daughter were out of breakfast at
a local place around here, soit seems like they're back together. Everything's
good and we'll see in a coupleof weeks. We are now one month
away from the Open at Royal Troops, so we'll see with that. Talking
about pro debuts, John Daily theSecond will make his pro debut on the

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corn Ferry Tour this week, sothat's another guy I'm interested to watch out
for and wondering what his apparel willlook like. Do you think he's gonna
have some like loudmouth pants like that? Do they still make loudmouth fans?
I'm not sure. I know Ihave a loudmouth bag that I got to
in twenty twenty. It was givento me, so I'm not sure if
they're still making the apparel. WhenBrandon won, like his high school,

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like I think like the state championshipor something he wore like red and white
checkered loudmouth fans, and his highschool still has them like hanging when you
walk. It's hilarious. We'll haveto see a repool photo up for that
and throw that on social. Thisis a new rule came out. PGA
Tour players will now get a fifteenminute buffer window to make any changes to

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their scorecard without being disqualified. Andsome people said that's off of the whole
speech space. Yeah, yeah,yeah, so that's interesting. But it's
like, wait, you need fifteenminutes after you sung your scorecard to like
think about if you if something wasincorrect, Like I don't, I don't
know. You have one job likeright down your score after or to go

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to the bathroom. Yeah in specase, Yeah, but I mean if
you're sitting there right down your score, you know, you know, why
do you need fifteen minutes post round? Like what else are you doing in
there? So yeah, that's that'sessentially all the tea we have, you
know, all right, beautiful.We are under a month until our outing
and one of our great sponsors who'salways there is Rita's so make sure you

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head to Rita's to try their newcool Aid tropical punch ice. Oh yeah,
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go to rid Us. That's goingto be stuck in my head now.
My favorite thing at rita is themango Jelatti. You gotta get the vanilla

(55:12):
yeah, it's so good, orbeer Manila July. Yeah. It was
my niece's birthday. She tear onthe seventeenth, and my mom took all
the kids to read us. Theywere all like, we want to go
to Ritaus. It's now summertime andthat's where everybody wants to go. That's
right, thank you to read us. They'll be out there at our outing.
And of course we had to theTravelers Championship. This is my memory

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of the first time ever watching golf. I had my uncle and my grandfather
always watched golf. My uncle workedfor Travelers, so I remember like connecting
the dots to see in the umbrellaand it was a young moose, like
you know, a young seven oreight. You know, it's not fully
grown out yet, not at allat all, but I mean, you
know, the signature event, nocut a great field, right, So

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it's cool not having a big letdownafter such a massive event in the US
Open. And Harry, as wego through the course of course TPC River
Highlands in Cromwell, Connecticut, theysay it's one of the easier courses on
tour. Yeah, Bertie's a plentyat this event. And as opposed to
Pinehurst number two, where I say, I really kind of wouldn't want to
play it, maybe I would loveto play at this place. This place

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looks like a whole lot of fun. TPC River Highlands parse seventy sixty eight
hundred and thirty five yards, veryshort for PGA tour standards. Pete Die
and Bobby Weed combined on this designand it has a couple of different The
back nine is thrilling, Okay,that's really all you need to see come
on Sunday because it includes the riverholes, which are eleven through fourteen right

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along the Connecticut River, and thenyou get the Bermuda Triangle fifteen, sixteen,
and seventeen and the finishing hole inthe eighteenth hole. Amphitheater is just
a great there's a lot of drama. I mean, there's been so many
great finishes at this golf tournament datingback to me, Paul Eising, You're
chipping in to win back in nineteeneighty nine, Harris English had an eight

(57:06):
hole playoff back in twenty twenty oneand finally closed things out on the eighteenth
hole. You had Noa Bagay hittinga big putt to beat Calcovekia back in
two thousand, Olin Brown back inninety eight, Jordan Spieth from the bunker
back in twenty seventeen. I thinkit was to beat Daniel Berger in the
playoff. There just seems to bea lot of playoffs and a lot of

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drama with this event. That's whyI love it so much. My favorite
hole is the fifteenth hole. It'sthe driveable par for two hundred and ninety
six yards with water all down theleft side of the fairway in the green
and the greens pushed up with anopen front. But it runs off steeply
on the back tier all down intothe hazard. You got a pot,
bunker short and right. You knowguys, you know, deciding which kind

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of clubs you know to hit intothere? Are they going to lay up?
Are they going to go for it. That's gonna be great on Sunday.
The sixteenth hole is a par threeall over water, only one hundred
and seventy one yard. It's notvery long, but it's got a very
shallow green with bunkers left and rightin a chipping area behind. You'll see
a lot of guys going over thegreen and chipping back trying to make a
three. Seventeenth hole we got toraise t four hundred and thirty yard par

(58:14):
four with the fairway having water alldown the entire right side. The green
has no bunkers and you know,a bunkerless green, but there's also no
rough between the fairway and the waterhazards. You'll see a lot of balls,
you know, hitting that right sidethat will end up in the hazard.
But it's a great drama risk rewardhole. The eighteenth hole par four

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four to forty five, with abig bank on the right side and a
large fairway bunker left uphill approach shot. You know, not a very long
hole, but the you got tohit this green or you put it in
the front right bunker like Jordan Speithdid back in twenty seventeen, and that's
a makeable bunker shot. But itshould be really, you know, good
drama. After we had incredible dramalast week. I'm anticipating another good watch

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on a hot Sunday afternoon. It'sgonna be freaking ninety five degrees Sunday.
I'll be out early playing golf,hopefully get in before it gets too hot,
and then sit inside in the acand watch the pros watch some good
golf. Yeah, we have thePGA Tour you number one, Michael Thorpe,
Jorgsonorson, Yeah, yeah, yousay that for me, Harry or

(59:22):
Jornsen from Stanford, right, yeah, and he's paired with the twenty twenty
three PGA Tour U number one Ludwig. So that's yeah, that was a
good one. Yeah right, goodParry there. Yeah, yeah, So
you had Keegan in twenty three Xanderand twenty two Harris English in twenty one.
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majors at that two thousand numbers,got a T eleven here in twenty one
and T thirteen. He shot asixty one in round three last year in
this event. And then Brian Harmon, who I hate watching, but I
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Yeah, T five and twenty oneT two and twenty three four top ten
tens plays really well here, soI'm sticking with those two guys. It's

(01:02:00):
gonna be interesting this week because ofwhat you had last week, you know,
high drama, really big important eventat a really tough golf course.
What some of these guys have thisweek. Like, I know it's a
no cut event, which is great. But Morikawa has played six of the
last seven weeks. Okay, he'sbeen playing brilliantly, three top fives.
His worst finish is a sixteenth,But I mean six and seven weeks.

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I mean that's that's a lot ofgolf and high intensity golf, So I'm
curious to see what he brings tothe table. Hoveland has five top twenty
fives this season, but only onetop ten that was a third in the
PGA. He's due for a breakoutweek. I'm thinking it could happen this
week. And Corey Connors is acut machine. His last miss cut was
the twenty three US Open, soit's been a year and in that time

(01:02:46):
he's got five top tens and eleventop twenties. That guy has to be
on your fantasy team. I'm takinghim in a top ten at plus two
seventy five. I'm taking Connors alsoover Burns at minus one twenty Harmon I
like in a top twenty at plusone twenty five. Xander, you mentioned
one this back in twenty two.I'm debating him for one and done because

(01:03:07):
I'm running out of weeks. ButI'm also thinking Russell Henley only missed cut
since last July was at the Players. He's had five top tens, including
three top fives this season. I'lltake him at plus two point fifty in
a top ten. Great stuff.Yeah, and we got we got a
women's major. This week. They'reout in Sahali, out in the Pacific

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Northwest for the PGA Ayaka Food Awayin a top ten at plus one six
three times. Well, it's spelledf u r ue, but it's pronounced
food away. Now, how doyou? I don't know. I don't
want to get it, but it'sfood Away. And the live golf is
back. They're in Nashville at theGrove, which is a really nice golf
course. Bryson is the favorite.Ram is the third favorite. Now Nieman

(01:03:53):
has moved ahead of him, soapparently Ram's foot has healed well enough to
play, so we'll see, butI'm kind of interested and see how that
event plays out. Wild wild stuff. Thanks again to Patrick Kanig for joining
us. Make sure you check himout. Incredible stories, incredible Photography's going
to be great. Yeah yeah,I can't can't wait to check that out

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