Swing It & Ding It: Episode 197

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Speaker 2 (00:24):
You just got to get out there and swing and
ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, just guess it's going to go out
there and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
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up for sure with college football season. And we are
joined once again by our friend Ryan Balgie Golf News
Net back on with myself, Moose, Harry Mays, Daniel Matthews
and special guest for his annual visit it the Great
Greeny up in vacation in Lake George. We'll talk about

(01:11):
our round today. It's Iconda Roga for sure. But Ryan,
what's up man?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Welcome back?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Thanks for having me on again.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
How are y'all doing great? Doing great? You never you
never really have much going on. You're just kind of,
you know, not too busy.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, always expanding the network.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's going through life, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
We'll give us an update on where things are and
where things are headed.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So in about two or three weeks, depends on when
the programming gets done and the QC gets certified and
all this boring technical stuff that you don't need to
know about, but basically, the g n N TV network
will debut in just a few weeks time when streaming services,
so we'll have about a handful to start pick up
a couple right after. Once we we kind of go

(01:56):
through the process of having to show them that the
channel is a real thing. They're they're not putting on
and some fake twenty four hours of black screen, and
then it'll be on our website as well. We'll have
a revamped app for Roku and for Amazon Fire, so
you'll be able to watch the channel twenty four to
seven through those means as well, make it pretty easy
to access, and then hopefully by January of twenty twenty five,

(02:19):
at least Q one of twenty twenty five will be
on most of the kind of eight tier streaming services,
your Pluto's, your.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Samsung TVs, Visio TVs of the world. Make this as
accessible to as many people as possible, but at least
the outset will be in front of somewhere between thirty
and forty million users screens.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I guess is the right way to say it. I
don't know, but that many people per.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Month, that's incredible, man. I mean, you know, you did
the radio thing. Now you're expanding into into TV and
video and everything. I mean, how long before you start
bidding for PGA tour rights? I mean, I mean, this
is you phage man.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I will never be in the three Comma clubs, so
I'm not worried about that.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But what about the Maryland Amateur.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's funny you say that. It's been really cool. Over
the course of this experience of trying to build this thing,
it's been about an eighteen month project from conception to
what waltsmately be the reality, and just talking to different
parts of especially the tournament golf world, about what's possible.
And there are so many ways to access golf, high

(03:32):
quality golf production that weren't available even two years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
There's a group.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Called College Golf Network that has come up in the
last couple of years and their kids in their twenties,
literally out of college, who said, you know what, We're
gonna start streaming college golf tournaments and they did the
North and.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
South this year.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
They did a number of other higher profile tournaments, and
they decided they wanted to make this stuff accessible. That's
been wonderful talking to the Absent Tour, the Developmental Tour
of the LPGA. They're so keen to get their players
out there in front of more eyeballs and are really
open to lots of different ideas about how to do that,

(04:12):
whether it's streaming tournaments, whether that's making documentary series, whether
that's just talking with talk shows like this one or
ones that will do you know, it's really fascinating to
have seen the people's response from different parts of and
not just in the United States, from Europe lease European Tour,
from the PGA Tour of Australasia Sunshine to all these

(04:34):
different tours are really interested in trying to connect with
an audience in a slightly different way than we've been
doing in the past in terms of golf broadcast.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Man, What does your day to day look like trying
to just keep up with golf and put out enough
content continuously for all these platforms.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
It feels I've learned to adjust when the radio launched
that it'll be two years for the radio in two.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Months time, and that feels like that was a whirlwind.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
And even the first couple of weeks of kind of
setting that up, I felt, and I told my wife
for this at the time, I felt extremely overwhelmed because
it was something I didn't know how to do and
I had to kind of teach myself how to do it.
And then okay, well you're just doing that. Well, the
same adjustment's going to have to happen here. I don't
have a I mean, I know how what I'm going

(05:24):
to do, but I don't know how I'm going to
do it. So put it, you know, kind of putting
all that together was, you know, and will be an
adjustment probably for five, six, seven, eight months next year.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
How do you teach yourself?

Speaker 6 (05:36):
We had we had facts on last week and he
said he's still a student of the game. He was
talking about how he listens to Steve Steve Sands saying Hey.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
Give it a break, you know, just let it breathe Like,
just still learning?

Speaker 7 (05:48):
How are you? How are you learning?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I like?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I love research. I love learning just anything.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
It could be the something dumb in the museum that's
just on a plaque. I will sit there and read
that plaque until the end. My wife's like, can we
move on?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Like?

Speaker 5 (06:05):
No, I'm learning something about the Austria and Hungry conflict.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm that kind of person.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
So I will go a long way to try to
figure out as much as I can from what I
can figure out, and then just ask for help.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
The thing I've learned in twenty years of trying to
be a media person is if you're willing to ask
politely and genuinely, a lot of people will give you
a lot of great.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Advice, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
And that has every walk of life. And Spatson talks
about broadcasting, talks about learning, getting better at golf.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean, you name it.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
If you if you come to someone earnestly looking for help,
they'll give it to you, and then hopefully someday you
can repay them with help that maybe they need from you,
and whatever your expertise might be.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
No doubt so. Well, we definitely want to talk about
the playoffs. But it's interesting. If you saw, I'm sure
you saw, I'm sure you posted about it. Justin Thomas
was quoted today saying that he would rather have now.
He was very complimentary of both guys, but he said,
if given the choice of good or great, he would
take Xander season this year because two majors is two majors,

(07:16):
and it's it just shows you.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
How important majors are.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
What do you think about these two guys this year,
with Xander and Scotty, and where do you stand on
if you had to be one of those guys this year,
what season would you take?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I think the right answer, almost universal answer, probably would
be I would take Xander's season because in ten years
you'll remember Xander season. But from a pure who had
the best PGA Tour season, that's Scotty Scheffler, right, he
could walk away with sixty something million dollars at the
end of the year. I mean, that sounds like a

(07:53):
great PGA Tour season to me.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
I'm taking season.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
I mean, that's amazing, and you know, you have six wins,
you have an Olympic gold medal.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
There's a major.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
In those six wins, being the first guy to defend
the Players title in fifty years of this tournament. You
did some incredible things. You just didn't win two majors.
That's really weird to say because you got.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Arrested it one of the one and a half he
won the Players that's a half a major.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yeah, I think that's right, Harry, And I think we've
kind of come to that point too, where the public
and the players have kind of recognized it's it's not
a major, it's not not a major, it's somewhere in between.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's really important.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
And you know, if Scheffler were to win the Tour
championship and became the FedEx Cup winner and got the
sixty million, maybe the evidence starts to stack up and
you say, okay, well maybe he has to be the
Player of the Year. But I think if you kind
of put the truth gun into everybody on tour, they go,
I take two majors and we'll just call it a day,
and they leaven character the player of the year because

(08:56):
ten years from now, they're still two majors, and that's
what matters.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
More than Yeah, So you think Xander could be the
Player of the year right now, without even winning the
tour championship.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Really, I think I look at so a couple of instances,
But I think the first I look at is Patrick
Harrington when in two thousand and eight he won a
couple of majors, right Tiger was on the shelf.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I mean, he won the US Open on one leg.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
It was clearly the best player that year for the
tournament time that he played. I think he went practically
everything he looked at in two thousand and eight until
he broke his leg. And yet still his peers said, well,
Patrick Harrington won two majors. Sorry you're you're not the
player of the year. But then you had the opposite.
I mean, you've had that happen with Brooks kept Go
winning a major and stil Rory McRoy was the player

(09:48):
of the year.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So you've seen it go both ways.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
But I think the players, especially now in the world
where live exists and not everyone gets together all the time,
those tournaments have even more importance than they did even
three four years ago.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Well that's a great segue. You tweeted out a new
PGA tour and is live Golf done? Talk to us
about live golf and what you were sharing on X today.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
So there's this Financial Times article and again I'm kind
of geopolitical nerd, so apologies, but it's all from Amon
Lynch and I on a plane saw started reading it,
and basically it's the gist is that the Saudis, I mean,
they have an incredible amount of money, right they've got
a trillion dollars sitting in an investment fund, and some

(10:32):
of it's been spent and much of it's been invested,
and for a lot of that time was free money,
I mean lives, free money. They're just like, here's five
to ten billion dollars. Do what you want, good luck
to you, Let's see what happens. And they've obviously gotten
little to no return on that investment, financially speaking at least.
And so that is the back drop, where the front
drop for what's happening with the Saudi public investment poem,

(10:53):
where they're really going to start to tighten up what
they're doing with their money, where they're not just going
to throw it at stuff and just see what happens.
They divested themselves a Carnival cruise line, they've divested themselves
with some other things.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
They want to return, right, they want to be.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
A rational investor to give me my money where.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
My money, and so they also want to They also
want return, but they also want something tangible to happen
in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which, hey, if this
is the Saudi Arabian Fund, that seems pretty reasonable.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So Live doesn't do either of those things.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Live doesn't make money any money, and it doesn't really
bring anything to Saudi Arabia except the one tournament that
if you ever watched it any year, even when it
was on the DP World Tour, there might have been
like five hundred people there. So why are you spending
all this money on something that three years in just
isn't connecting with people in the way that they'd hoped there.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Do you have any idea on what the Live contracts,
if anything, like what they look like for the players, Like,
is it guaranteed money for how long?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
I can't recall?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, some of these guys have to be close to
getting out of their contracts, that.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Too, Harry.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
So the guarantee contracts they range Some are one year,
some are two years. Up to five years is the
most I've seen as a contract, Like, Wow, that's kind
of like Dustin Johnson and Phil and like the early adopters.
But all of those contracts have a money up front
and they're all a little different. I've seen a couple
of different ones, but there's money up front, right, and

(12:28):
that got deposited like the second you sign it, and
then you had to agree to to play whatever schedule
they put in front of you for that contract duration. Well,
some of those contracts are starting to go up. The
third season is about to be done, and they might
say that this is their second season because it was
the invitational, but this is a year three for a
lot of people, and so they've been told, we're not

(12:52):
going to resign you with a forty million dollars signing bonus.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Pat Perez. You can come away happy to have you,
but we're not giving that that.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
You might rather have Fat Perez at this point. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
You're probably right.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You know, it gets more, it gets more clicks on Socia.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
That's true. But Pat Prez may need the money a
whole lot more right now. But if you're in that
situation where okay, well I'm not going to get all
this money guarantee money to show up on Live anymore,
then you start to have to weigh the benefits, right,
I mean, Live can any time decide we don't have
twenty five million dollar person anymore, we have fifteen million
dollar perses.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
They can do that tomorrow, when you know, or when
the season ends. It's up to them, right.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
And then if you're not getting any money up front,
and you could basically be subject to getting kicked out
of the league with one bad season all of a sudden,
trying to go back to the like Patz trying to
go back and go play the Champions Tour. Yeah, doesn't
sound like such a bad idea, right, Go pay a
little fine, say you're sorry. Play Champions Tour events, gets

(14:00):
guaranteed money, you win one or two.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You get that really sweet pension back. You know.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
All of that stuff kind of starts to become part
of the equation, I think. And for a younger guy
who has a whole career ahead of them, I'm thinking
Caleb Surrat, I'm thinking Rhino Jakara, I mean, David Pooge.
A lot of guys who play on Live there younger
who have developed into something they have to weigh is

(14:26):
this a viable long term thing for my career or
can I try to go get on the PGA tour
and yeah, there's not guaranteed money, but the money available
there is going to be there and going to be
there for the law.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So let's uh, well we'll talk about
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Hedeki had a pretty wild, a wild weekend while leading
up to it. He had to mission week travel issues.
You know, he's up five, he's approached by a rules official.
But we talked about it last week on the show.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
The guy's a gamer, like when when when it's on
the line, there's he's in the list of like guys
that you want that you know are going to step
up and play. Just talk a little bit about Hedeki
in the tournament last week.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Really cool for him. I mean just and it had
gotten away from him too.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
I mean that that was Victor Hoblin's there for a
minute and then it wasn't. And I mean just the
clutch up a right, but just the clutch up like
that on seventeen was awesome. I mean, he's had a
really good season, it just hadn't really netted into something
victory wise yet. Obviously, Riviera was great to break through
for the first time since I think the Matt Well

(15:32):
Sozo Matt Masters at all but in a while, and
then to get that kind of I don't want to say,
like a pity prize, but the three point six million
dollars not a pity prize, but the makeup for.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Not winning the gold medal at the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
That that's a great couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, how can you not feel like he's got
all the momentum going into this week at the BMW.
It almost kind of feels like maybe the victor how
last year of all right, well he went, he went
and closed it out the last two and then you
have Lucas Glover at the front end with the Windom
and Memphis back to that, maybe that's possible here. I mean,

(16:10):
you just have to be good for three weeks, not
even three weeks, two weeks really if you're in kind
of a decy's position going into the playoffs, where now
he's solidly into the top three four. No matter what
happens here this week, he's going to have a decent
chance to win the twenty five million dollars because they're
playing a net tournament next week.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
And he's he's in great shape. It was really cool
for him to get that done.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
What did you think about that possible rule violation? Which
I thought was ridiculous, to be honest with it, because
that place was so wet and soft. I mean, you
know you're making these these you know, divots, ball marks,
what what have you. It wasn't even in you know,
close to his line. He goes up and tamps it down,

(16:58):
which is what I would have done too, because you're
trying to do it well. I guess he was in
the last group, but I'm I'm doing it for other
players behind me. Whenever that happens on a soft place
like the fourth hole at our place, you come up short,
it's gonna give a big I'm gonna I'm gonna tamp
that down for other people, And all of a sudden
it becomes this big thing, and they don't. They wait

(17:20):
until the twelfth hole to come out and tell him.
And then he goes bogie twelve. What he bogied fourteen?
Put it in the water. He doubled fifteen, which is
an easy hole. It obviously shook him and then he
and then all of a sudden he makes par on
the easy uh par five sixteenth and then goes Bertie
Birdie on seventeen eighteen. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's almost like something clicked, like are you gotta get
over this?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You're gonna listen?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And then and then it kicked in and he.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Mats drama, I mean, and it went from like a
victory lap to all right, well maybe we've got something here, right,
But I personally think that specific rule should not be in.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
The rules of golf anymore.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
I agree, and I say that as the person who
called in unfortunately on Camilla vi Jagas like ten years
ago when he did the same thing in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
No way you called it. You were one of those guys.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
And I don't mean I called in. I didn't like
call the tour.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
The TV.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
On Twitter and I tweeted about it and the end
result was the tour solid and that got Camillo d
qed and I still feel horrible about it. But that
was the rule and it's still the rule, and I
think it's a ridiculous rule.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
What was with like LEXI right, remember that that was
then and then they said no more Collins, right.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
And it's just kind of that specific rule. I understand
why it exists, but for a professional it doesn't seem
particularly applicable, especially when you've got a lot of players
playing through it's soft courses can be an issue. There's
a lot of instances where it just doesn't make sense

(19:07):
for especially for a professional, for that to be a role.
So I would just like to see it got rid
of all together.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
What would your one be role that needs to be
removed be?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
It used to be that you could move it out
of a dibbot, But I've gone the whole other way
around it.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I actually am the opposite view.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I mean I probably started complaining about that ten twelve
years ago, and that I've kind of come the whole
way around. No, we should play from the dibbot. Liked,
we should make it even harder. Actually that that's honestly,
probably the most egregious one for me is that one.
Because of the Camilla thing.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
Over the heres he still has nightmares about it.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
We took a big back of good, how are you happening?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
No, I've seen the way this guy hits the golf ball,
so he can hit it out of any dibot, so
it's not a big problem for him.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
That's right, that's right. So taking a look.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Go ahead, BMW Championship. We know this obviously, this where
the seating comes into play. What are you looking out
for this this coming week?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
I really, I mean I have my grades to the playoffs,
but I really like how they have made each week
mean something. Now, you know, getting in the top fifty,
you get into all the signature events. You get in
the top thirty, you get a crack at twenty five
million dollars. Like there's a clear carrot to each week.
I really like that, and the cutoffs feel more brutal,
like going seventy to fifty. If you're just that short,

(20:29):
you miss out on two hundred million dollars worth of purses.
If you miss out on the top thirty, you miss
out on a whole heck of a lot of money
next week by all the majors, and you miss out
from all the majors, right, So there's a lot on
the line for each of those events. Well, I'll look
out for this week is just to see how guys
play at altitude. I mean, we haven't had that ornament

(20:51):
like this on the PGA tour. I mean we have
TVC Colorado on the corn Ferry Tour and it's an
eight thousand yard corps and they play at altitude and
it's really cool. But we haven't had this on the
AG tour in eighteen years, I think, at least at
at Castle Pines. I mean they had a Jerry Hills
I think a decade ago, oh six, I think the
last time it had a Jerry Hills since.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
But Castle Pines.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
I used to love watching the old International because the
Stableford and it was at elevation and it was different.
I'm really looking forward to seeing and I for I
understand they've done quite a bit of work to the
club too, so I'm really looking forward to seeing that
and just the kind of eye popping numbers we'll see
this like mcblroy's hitt at three seventy in the air

(21:33):
this week. And I know that once you put in
the context eighty one hundred yards, that's not so big
of a deal, but the eye popping numbers are gonna
be really fun.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
He'll spend off. Don't worry about what's that?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
What you were seeing Brandon Matthews out.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
There this week? Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I I caddied for him in Columbia at elevation and
that was I was like, I don't know what club like, well,
South America, Yeah yeah, yeah at elevation yeah yeah, wow, all.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right, but it would be really cool to see.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I mean, they're gonna have to knock ten twelve percent
off of every shot. Wow, and you're gonna have to
do some quick math and with a lot on the
line on Sunday, your caddy's gonna mean.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Calculators this week.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
I was gonna say, who has it harder this week?
Players are caddies.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Caddies a lot to think about, and you've got to
think about just normal stuff. Win, adrenaline situation up, you know,
all those things that go in a regular offic and oh,
by the way, subtract twelve percent, ten percent, They'll just
do ten percent from time of.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
The day, flight of the ball.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Right, There's so much that happens at elevation that doesn't
happen at sea level.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It'll it should be so much fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Green was trying to have at Lake George today.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
But the calculations were not not calculating.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
Calculations were not calculating.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Would have it all figured out?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You just bring a graphing calculator A I.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Gotta ask you Ryan, because because last week, you know,
they're in Memphis. They go to Atlanta next week it's hot,
as you know, it's like jungle heat. Okay, these guys,
we saw Lucas Glover with the swamp ass last you know,
last year, you know, through the khakis. I don't need
to see that. You know, where are you on allowing

(23:21):
these guys to wear shorts? If there's a triple digit
index heat, like a heat index of over one hundred degrees,
shouldn't they be allowed to wear shorts? Because I think
I'm there.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
I'm totally on there. I've been there for a long time.
Everybody I've ever played golf with has seen someone play
golf in shorts, and no one's like, hey, that's not cool.
You should be wearing pants, right, No one does that.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I love slacks, don't get me wrong. I love when
I when I get to wear them.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
That I disagree though, Like I like pros and pants.
I think get like Differentially's like when I see them
in shorts, it's still weird to me. But I'm also
like I still the same thought process, Like if I
see someone wearing jeans at a club, like I can't
so I think I'm more like old school, like I
think pros. I think they belong in pants, like I

(24:14):
don't know, it's just part of the uniform.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
If you will.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Be pros who just say I just I feel more
comfortable with pants. I don't care if it's one hundred
and ten, I'll still wear the pants.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
I'll deal with the small point would give.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Me the option.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
I mean, the DP World Tours had a policy about
meters for like five six years. Like DP World Tours
had this thing of like if it basically that rule,
like you said, Harry, if it's like the the heat
and dex is above one hundred, like especially for like
the South African events in November and December, where it's
their summer and it's freaking hot.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
You see guys wearing shorts.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
No one stops sponsoring the events because dudes show up
in shorts, right, I mean, there's a lot of guys
with some funky.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Tans, but no one's walked away.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
So I'd be fine with especially if they're not going
to do what I think they should do, and that
is shop out the playoff events and take it to
different cities.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
No offense against Memphis. I love Memphis.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I've had a great time there, right, but Memphis is
not the city to host a playoff.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's a jungle in August. It's unbelievable. I've been there
to that tournament. It's absolutely unbearable.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yes, maybe it lies on the tour then, just improving
their schedule, you know, trying to get it more.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Especially in a world where they've got this multi billion
dollar investment stuff. Go do what WWE does and go
to Indianapolis and Cleveland to name these cities, and go, hey,
can you give us a favorable deal. We're going to
bring a whole lot of visitors and money to your economy.
You kick back us some money for charity or whatever
it needs to be. We'll bring Playoff event number one

(25:55):
here in years twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty, twenty thirty two.
This event goes to this city b in these years,
and yeah, if they did, I feel like that'd be
better for the Memphis event. The BMW kind of does
it now anyway, like it's coming to.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, of course I'll take it now.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Moose and Greeney, were you in slacks or shorts today?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Slacks?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
It was like sixty It was like fifty beautiful, nine
sixty this morning when we went out love Hoodie to start.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, yeah, tremendous.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Will right, We'll get you out of here with this.
We got got Who do you have this week? Who's
gonna Who's gonna take this down?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I kind of think it might be either Tony Fenale
or Sam Burns.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Wow, Yeah, I can't know.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
It's a home game for windhom We don't. We don't
have any love for that.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
I do, but I and I think something clicked after
that bad first round at the Olympics, like almost like
pride clicked in like this stunt, I gotta, I gotta
be better.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
And then he's been better.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
But Sam Burns has been good for like three months
in a row, and I feel like nobody's talking about it.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Under the radar. We talked about that.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
I know this is not Permuta this week, but he's
been playing such spectacular golf. He I feel like he's
ready to do this again.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
When you're hot, you're hot, awesome.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
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Speaker 3 (27:19):
You read it, you hear it. Soon, you're going to
see it. That's right all over the place.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Congratulations, looking forward to what you have coming up and
everything else got going on.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Man, thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Thanks it.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Thanks Ry.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, all right.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Welcome back to Swinging and thing at the Great Ryan Balingie.
A lot going on over there. Yeah, little radio newsletter
website on TV with a bunch of different so make
sure you check him out.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Does a really good job over there. So we talk
a lot about Philly golf on the show.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's no surprise we get a lot of crap for
where the courses are that we only talk about private clubs,
you know, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
But whatever we have to do, we have to do.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Wait a second, we get crap. Oh yeah, where are
the reviews? I want to hear these just.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
On social media, like on Instagram. People will respond when we.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Post the keyboard gangsters.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, oh you guys do No one can play these courses.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
But I mean that's what we're talking about, the great
courses with the entire world talks about our courses here.
Not to say that we don't talk about we think
we talked about a lot of different courses on this show.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
But be that as it may. Who cares.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
But we thought it'd be cool to come up with
our top ten lists, like what really is that? The
top ten Philly golf courses. And again we're going by
the Golf Association of Philadelphia. We're going to pull in
probably sure out a little bit west wherever we want
to go.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So we thought it'd be fun to come up with
our list and to do it.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
It's a time of year for drafts rights, it's fantasy
football drafts, so let's do our own draft, right, and
I'm going to go of the screen that I'm looking at,
So we're going to go Danielle, myself, Greenie, Harry, and
we're just gonna we're gonna come up with our top
ten lists. So Danielle, you get the number one pick?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Who is I'm on the clock? Yep?

Speaker 7 (29:10):
I mean, I feel like I speak for everybody.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
And you know, we confirm this that it is within
the gap and it is a Philly course.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
I have to say it. Number one is Pine Valley.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, a PV for the one seed.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
No, all right, So this is this is tough for
me because I've actually never played it right and I
feel like that.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
It's hard to put in your top ten, but I
feel like I have to.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I feel like I know that it would be so
for me.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I have to go marry and I have I have
not played yet, but but you have to go marrying
in in the two seats.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
That was my number two Greeny. I'm a tilling Has guy,
so I gotta go too. Gotta go cricket.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Course obviously, Yeah, I love cricket. I love cricket. Getting
in the three seed there it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Harry Well, I'm a Donald Ross guy, so I'm torn
here because I've played Rolling Green and I love Rolling Green.
It's probably my great love place play that I've played
on the list. But do you put a Rondo Inke
ahead of Rolling Green? And you know it's it's a

(30:18):
Donald Ross, it's a classic. They're bringing the PGA there
and a year or so. I'm torn here, guys, but
I'm going to go Rolling Green.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
Hey, then I'm gonna have to come in with a RONOMC.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I mean, that's so was my fource lot.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Anyways, It's like when somebody leaves a running back on
the board and you're like, my god, I gotta jump
on that guy.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
I can't believe they didn't take this guy. All right, Greedy, No,
you're most yeah wow, that really the monkey wrench into things.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'm going to go Union League National. Oh down the shore,
the go down the shore, Union League National, Hurst and
Fry love it well.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
BMW's this week right, Where was the BMW played two
years ago? Philip Wilmington, Wilmington's South Course, Wilmington.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Wow, wow, yeah, Delaware representation. That was on my list.
Really yeah, that was on my list.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
But I'm gonna have to go to the US Open
where the women played out at a flynt course out
near my hood, Lancaster Country Club, Harry Lancaster, not Lancaster,
it's Lancaster.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
I definitely say Lancaster.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
We're getting down to it. We're getting down to it.
That goes off the board now, I will tell you.
In my top ten list, there were.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Jeffersonville, Glen No, no, no, no, no, no, we're left we
have But I'm just I just wanted to throw that
out there.

Speaker 9 (32:01):
Obviously, my home course, the home courses, I thought we
were kind of excluded from this list because there's the
bias there.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Right, You're not going right backyard, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, all right, left and yell, you have the nine
pick and then I got to close it out.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah, you guys might be surprised by this, but I'm
going to say stone Wall.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I love stone Wall.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
Log to on your list.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I love it. It's right there. It's right next to
Lancastro on my list.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Let's go, baby, love playing that place. All right?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
The last two on my list that I had written down,
I'll tell you who they both are.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Then I'll kind of work it out. I have manufacturers
and I have Country Club scrant.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Hey CCS making it.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I have to decide and uh, for sentimental reasons. With
ANIPA coming up, I'm closing out with Country Club scrant
My guy.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
All right, there's our top ten pine.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Ones that we had off.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oh yeah, obviously Manny's. I had Galloway on my list
for the short course.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
You just played that too, just played it was.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Greeney and I were talking, like we mentioned with Jeffersonville
Glenn Mills as you know, public courses that you can
get on. How about you guys, what else did you
have on the list?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Oh? My go ahead, go ahead, no, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
I had sock and just because that's my backyard and
literally every course there, I mean way Old Course and
even Grace. We've laid that little course quite a few times.
I had Applebrook on there as well, and I actually
had white man Or on there. And this is just
because that was the first course that I ever went
to and saw a golf event live in person. So

(33:45):
it was just kind of cool and kind of got
the golf bug started. Although I wouldn't say it's like
a top ten Philly course, but in my top ten
I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Well, I mean manufacturers had to be close to the
cutoff to me, even though I've never played it, but
I just know it's so good. Riverton is a place
that a lot of people don't really know about because
it's in a small little town along the Delaware River
near Cinnamonsen. But it's a Donald Ross. I've played it

(34:14):
two years ago. It's absolutely fabulous. So I'm a Donald.
I love Donald Ross stuff, so that that's close for me.
White Marsh, what about White Marsh, I mean that's that's
a great spot. And Philly Country Club too. I mean
a lot of people forget about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, Harry, No, Lulu,

(34:38):
you know Lulu in nineteen twelve are special to my heart.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yeah, that's eleven eleven am.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, we have an embarrassment of riches. As Moose said,
I don't know how many years ago, and that's exactly
the truth. We have so many great golf courses, whether
it's public or private, in this area that we're very lucky, all.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Right to recap the swing it and ding at top
ten Philly golf courses, Pine Valley, Marion, Cricket, Rolling Green
Irono INNC Union League National, Wilmington, Lancaster, Stonewall Country Club, scrant.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
And what are we doing with this?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Well, you say, I heard our buddy Ryan Gaino might
have some opinions about what we talk about on this show.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
So opinions, yea, he has opinion.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, No, not that guy.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Right, if he's got something to say, he could say
he knows where to find us, as they say, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, all right, so let's talk about our game. Hat
talk to me. Where are we at?

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I know we had some crap weather. Yeah, where's the game?
Where's the game sitting these days?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
For you? Well? I played Bluebell on Saturday and dodged
the rain and had a pretty good round, really nice round.
I've been making birdies every time I go out now,
like at least one birdie, so I know things are
on the improvement. Their fifth hole, one of the shorter
par fours, I was the only guy that hit in

(36:03):
the fairway with the driver, and then I hit a
nine iron over the green or over the bunker. There's
like a lot of bunkers in front of the green.
You can't really see where the green is, hit it
to ten feet and made the birdie putt and made
a couple of big pars, So you know, I felt
really good about that round. And then the next day
had a money match at my club with a couple

(36:27):
of guys that I love to play with but were
very you know, we got very competitive and me and
PETEO shut out these guys. We were up five, five
and four on the front and we won the overall,
but we lost the back on the final hole on eighteen,
but I made a birdie there and a bunch of
bars too, So things are starting to improve.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
And Harry, you still have that same approach of just
being happy and well.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, and I took a lesson from Coop at Green Valley, Greenie,
you know Coop, and he's got me getting to hear
on my back swing, which has never happened before in
my life.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
Okay, and it's your mobility right getting around.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, Solfers.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
We're sitting in church on Sunday and I look over
and Brandon's take just with his hand.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'm like, exactly, just taking it back. I'm like, Danielle,
we got the clubs out.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Actually.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
So we are heading up to Pennsylvania on Friday, and
I'm like, these are coming, They're coming. I'm going to
make I'm gonna ask my mom to watch Vienna. I'm
gonna make sure I can play around with you guys.
I'm gonna hopefully even when we get up there that
week ahead of time, you know, the four of us
can get out and play somewhere.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
So we are Green and I are up in Lake
George for our annual family vacation, and so we found
this course last year.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
We're staying up a little bit farther.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
In Hague and we we typically play Sagamore, but it's
a bit of a drive. We found this course called
Takondo Rogan last year and absolutely, like I don't know.
Of of course I play that. I have more fun
playing it just is it's like cutting to the side
of the mountain. It's like very rustic, but every hole

(38:18):
was fun, huge ups and downs.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's just it's a blest. It's so much.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Fun, A lot of elevation change. Who designed it?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Do you know? I actually don't know. I have to
look that upw how to spell it?

Speaker 7 (38:31):
I'd look it up for you right.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Now, Taekwonda A great logo right one of the logo.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
I'm going to look it up. What's the logo?

Speaker 9 (38:39):
It's a it's a big cannon.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
What is it called again? Pencil? You know?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Right, okay, And literally it comes up to pencils when
I type it in.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, but like you know, we we usually get the
first tea time, and like the clouds are still like tucked,
you know, in front of the mountain.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
A lot of times you can't even really see today
actually it was clear, but just an awesome course, just
so much fun. Going back that one.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I saw the video you put up on it. Yeah,
I saw the video you put up on the social
media on the Instagram. It looked great.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, it's so cool. Right, it's like so like I
don't know what, like, it's just playable.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Like it's not easy, it's it's hard, you know, because
of the but it's in great conditions.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
It's awesome.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Clubhouse looks cool too afterwards.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, so we'll be we'll be back out there on Friday.
Looking forward to that for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Uh, Danielle, you have any tea to spill?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I mean you spilled some tea a while back, and
now you know people are catching onto it with a
guy named Jordan Spieth, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
So I told him quite a I don't know, probably
like a month or two ago that it was rumored
around this area of Juke that jordan'speaf may have like
career ending wrist surgery, and it's just finally coming out
again that he He's like, look, I've just been struggling
through and to Bodley's he's going to get surgery.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
So we will see.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
I also saw that when we're looking at this week
and we're talking about the Bubble Boys, we see Tommy
Fleetwood at thirty one. His probability of advancing is fifty
one point seven percent. And then my guy Danny McCarthy
is also on the bubble, but he has what people
are saying as a torn laborerm and he also may
need to have surgery. So they're saying his current position's thirty,

(40:29):
but the probability of advancing, people are.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
Saying is twenty eight point one percent. I'm going to
take the over, but.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
He might need surgery.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I mean, this game, just these guys like Ryan was saying,
it's going to be a young guy's game. You know.
Somebody on Golf Channel today was saying, they're going to
take what's his name? Oh my goodness, why am I
drilling a blank? He wins with palm Jrese, Come on,
hare help me out. Why am I auction? Yeah, they're like, yeah,

(40:56):
we're taking actually twenty two years old. He can walk
around this course no problem, and blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
You see his legs.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
The guy got hurt celebrating though right the rains.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Yeah, he needed to stop and get his whole arm
taped up and everything else.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
But yeah, it seems like a lot of a lot
of injuries happening.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I heard guys on the Golf Channel on Monday or
Tuesday saying about Jordan Speed targeting coming back for the
Hero Classic. I'm like, are you serious? Who gives a
crap about the Hero Classic? Let's be honest. You're gonna
rush yourself back from surgery to play in a freaking

(41:36):
like kitten Giggle in the Bahamas? Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
No? Like seriously, Sony, maybe that's it?

Speaker 7 (41:49):
What about Tigers? What about Tiger's event?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
We saw a who cares? Seriously, you got to think
about the Masters and start thinking about like, you know,
the PGA in may tonished a Grand Slam, like seriously,
the Hero Classic?

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Oh yeah, but that's where that's where what's his face
came back? I can't think of anything today. My brainch
just not operating. Who just had the back surgery?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
He's in playoffs?

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Yeah, well he came back at the Hero you know,
and now and now he's you know, sitting here this week.
So last week I previewed like if you know, wanted
to get your time under in the lifetime in the Stars.
I told Harry and needed him to go down and
audition for Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
He sent me the most amazing text ever.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
I don't know if I'm allowed to share it on
this To make a note of the time, so we
bleep it out.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
So I can't share that, but we did. I mean,
that's up to you, if you want to share her,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Well, I looked. I took a look at the map
of where this place was in Marris. I've been to
Marstown before in my medical sales days. I stayed in
a nice hotel there and went to the hospital and
all that stuff. This was not that hotel. This was
right downtown, and this place does not look like Marstown

(43:11):
of thirty years ago. So I looked around and like,
there's no parking, there's no way I'm going there. And
then I saw the Barstool tweets of the line around
like block after block after block of thousands, and I texted, you, guys,
I think there might be ten thousand people there, And
sure enough there was. And I'm sure ninety of them

(43:35):
have never seen a golf course. Okay, and that's fine.
But I said to Danielle. She sent me, actually sent
me actually the text of Barstool with the video. I go,
I wouldn't wait in that line for free sex and cocaine.
And that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Well, we talked about the young man's game hair exactly exactly.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
Two thousands of people went to an audition and Harry
did not.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yes, but I did sign up on the website like
last week, and I put pictures in and all that stuff,
and you know, said that I'm willing to do this, that, that,
and the third.

Speaker 7 (44:13):
So what are you willing to do? Hair Well?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I mean, you know, like travel and.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Filming in New Jersey though, right.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, somewhere in New Jersey. Why why they had this
at Norristown at that hotel is beyond me.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
Hey it's Netflix or they're bawn.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
On the bunch of should have had the Short Hills.
Mall right, Yeah, I have to you know joke.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
Yeah, yep, all right.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
So we won't be seeing Harry and Happy Gilmore. We'll see,
We'll be seeing some other random.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
People that were wrapped around that line.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
All right, let's pull it back here.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
Luke Clanton the amateur sensation out of Florida State.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
He was awarded the Mark McCormick Medal, which is given
to the top mail in the world amateur ranking. So
with that honor, he gets exemptions in the US open
at Oakmont and then open it.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Royal Port Rush that we were talking about last week.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
What a season that kid has had so far, you
guys been following Ander golf at all?

Speaker 7 (45:07):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, little stud really, I mean, you know he and
the kid from I forget is it Coven from Auburn,
But this guy drives it, you know, twenty thirty yards
past Coven.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
It's just going back again to him.

Speaker 6 (45:24):
Yeah, well, Ryan' said, going to be a young kids game.
These kids just coming out and just yeah. Specimens British Open,
the women's British Open at Saint Andrews. This might be
the last time that we're seeing Lexie. I'm pretty sure
a major. She's been getting so much press. I don't
know if you guys, you guys have been watching that,
but I thought this was a pretty cool to pull up.
So the prize money went up from three point five

(45:46):
mil in twenty eighteen to nine point five million this.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
Year, so a nice little jump.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
However, in comparison, the men's purse for the Open seventeen million,
which is of course the lowest of all four majors,
so not even half of what the of what the
boys get paid.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Yeah, Xander, did you guys see this? He got pretty
candid on his golf career. I think it was on
the corn Fairies, uh Instagram and X did you guys
see that at all? Him talking about Yeah, it's pretty cool,
So anybody listening to go and try to find that.
He talked about like his patients, how at one point
when he was on you know web now Corn Fairy

(46:26):
that he was paying his caddy more than he was
paying himself, sharing hotels room hotel rooms with his caddie,
Like how annoying it was, and how like you know
he's just like disgruntled and everything else. And then you know,
talked about how qualifying for the US Open obviously and
playing well there and how the rest was history.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
He just basically essentially said how like self realization.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
Is like a beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
But it was pretty cool to have him candidly revisit
his struggles just openly.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
And you know, we talk about it all the time.
How you know it's easy for us to be.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
On this other side and be like, ah, you know
Harry yell Rory or you know a Saska, why somebody's
bowing or you know, not making a punt, and it's like,
you know, these guys lose way.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
More than they win.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Yeah, And then corn Ferry to our first week of finals,
so we'll be able to take a look at some
of the young guns that will be moving up to
the PJ Tour next year.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah. I love how you pointed it out that I
yell at Rory. Rory finished like second to last last week.
He absolutely stunk. He had no interest in being there.
In my view, he looked disinterested in every shot. You
look at Max Holmes walk along. No, I didn't know.

(47:40):
I did not Max Homa DFL. How does that happen?
Jordan Speets got an injury, He's got an excuse. What's
Rory's excuse?

Speaker 6 (47:50):
I love roughlaying Harry's Rory feathers just I just I
like to Bab's.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
He just keeps giving the ammunition, okay, and I'm.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
Gonna put gasoline on the fire all that.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah. I've been doing this since twenty fifteen with this guy.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, we talked.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I wanted to highlight we talked a little bit about
it last week. But Corey Bowland friend of the program.
UH Greater Potstown Tennis and Learning. They had their seventh
annual golf tournament coming up Monday, September sixteenth at Spring hollow.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
So great course. It's spot Yeah, really good spot. Check
it out. They have some opportunities for sponsorship if you
want to get involved, and also you know, just get
getting out out there to play. It supports some really
good stuff, free programming for adaptive programs for special needs.
It's you know, really cool stuff that they're doing out there.
Check it out.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
If you're gonna look for a great, you know, great
round of golf at a really cool course, you know,
support support the Greater Potstown Tennis and Learning Center.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Daniel, you like game set advantage like that saying I do?

Speaker 8 (48:56):
I do?

Speaker 7 (48:56):
I think it's a good uh you know, it's a
good tagline.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, it's good stuff. Check them out.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Still some time to get involved and let us know
if you if you get out there and playing it.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
So looking forward to seeing how that event.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
I love. I love good golf for a good cause.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yep. Well, I know he always looks good. But we
haven't heard much from Greenie today. I need I need
to hear a little bit of Greenie. You know, his
his like impressions of the podcast or you know, his
year of personal golf. I want to hear from Greenie.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
Let's start with the impressions of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Likes the YouTube.

Speaker 9 (49:33):
I love the YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah, I have the
YouTube all at home when working remotely. Love tuning into
you guys. You guys do a great job. It's it's
really you know, I've been as you guys know, been
here from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, you guys have.

Speaker 9 (49:48):
Grown so much over the years, and it just gets
get gets getting better and better. My year of golf
has actually and I know you guys talk a lot
about how your games have gone over the year, mine
has not gone so well. Kind of taking a step back,
probably need to get back to coop like you, Harry.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 9 (50:14):
Things are starting to I think, starting to come around.
And it's mostly around the short game. Short game is
always one of those things where you kind of always
gotta be around and tinker with and and and really
practice and and that's where where my problems begin and end.
And so today I think it was it was a
better short game for me today, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Just gonna ask, what are the games look like between
you two and your outlaw.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
So here's the thing. He and I don't exchange currency
as a rule of thumb at all. Like sometimes I
saw sometimes he's pay up. But today it was our
warm up round.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I think on Friday, what we're going to do is
we have some stakes we're gonna do so like you know,
the one that one of us has to serve the
other one drinks all day.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Negotiation, the negotiations.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
Okay, I that yeah, be my slave for a week.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Yeah, well what we'll have to do for sure, you
know for Friday to state play. Greenie's game is he's
given himself not enough credit. I mean you got he
could play the game.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Remember you know, we a lot of.

Speaker 8 (51:15):
Pull in powers chirping in our private chat here.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, sure, if you want to be sure, can he said?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
He goes.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
So that means Jeff plays like if there's no gambling,
it's true.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Right, is that right?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I do play better when there's something that on the line,
just the concentration going. But our rounds are more relaxing.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
You know, have a house full of kids here, so
it's yeah, we're having a good time.

Speaker 9 (51:41):
Wherever we are, taking a couple couple of cocktails.

Speaker 7 (51:46):
Have you guys did nothing on like Instagram? TikTok x.
It's like my.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Husband or boyfriend says, it takes nine hours to play golf.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
I just want to know if that's true.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
And the one guy's like, well, yeah, actually it should
be like twelve. But if you got them new club
and let the bottom lessons and get them a new
like Scottie Cameron, he could probably like cut it to
like seven and a half.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
But if he's playing nine, like that's not that bad
and I'm.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Like, this is amazing, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Right, Well, we know Greeny's going to bring it when
it's time to see the line because he and his crew,
his syndicate, they put some action out there for sure, right,
they definitely put some maction out there. So let's talk
about the BMW Championship. We talked a little bit about
it with Ryan. Excited to see this course, Harry, Let's
talk about the course of course, because you know so

(52:35):
so often we talk about the same courses over and
over again. But to get to see a place like
this it will be pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah. I haven't been here since I think two thousand
and six with the old International which was the stable
for an event. Castle Pines Golf Club, jack Inness Nicholas
designed nineteen eighty one to part seventy two. It's about
eight thousand yards. But now think about you know, altitude
and everything the factor factor into that driving, accuracy and
mid iron game are supreme. It was bought and started

(53:06):
by an oil man named Jack Vickers who envisioned an
Augusta in the Rockies. And it's not gonna look like Augusta.
But it's a really pretty place. Man. You know, you're
gonna look at all these all these holes are separate.
It's not like a Parkland style. There's one hole. Trees
all around at big pine trees, flowers, you know, streams, ponds, ravines.

(53:29):
It's it's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous. The par five fourteenth
holes we're going to start six hundred and twenty five yards,
tree lined downhill. Par five generous fair way, but the
player must avoid a big grassy wash down the left
of the tee. The approach or the layup must be
be aware of the stream that crosses the pond and

(53:50):
guards the left side of the green, which is offset
typical Jack Nicholas and somewhat narrow with a bunker long right.
The par four fifteen hole four hundred and five yards
dog leg right accuracy Trump's length here favor the left
side of the tee approach to a large green with
three bunkers left and a pond on the right, and

(54:12):
the green is divided by a big ridge from front
to back. Now here's the best looking hole in the
golf course, the par three sixteenth hole, two hundred and
twenty four yards, three ponds and two waterfalls that you're
gonna I mean, it's just absolutely beautiful. You might be
just mystified by how gorgeous this is forgetting how to
hit a golf shot. But you got to play to

(54:34):
the left side of the green, the bunker short right.
There's a landing area short between the bunker and the water.
But man, what a great hole. Two hundred and twenty
four yard par three, par five seventeenth hole, very scorable,
five hundred and thirty three yards uphill par five reachable
from the fairway. You gotta avoid Calli's Creek that goes
all the way along the left side of the fairway

(54:56):
and l shaped green with two deep bunkers on the
left and a slope from back to front. You miss
the green, it's a real difficult up and down. Now,
the par four eighteenth hold finishing hole four hundred and
eighty yards uphill from tee to green in between the
bunkers on the fairway green. He knows how to do that.
It can't to the left approach to the green with

(55:18):
a swale in the middle that is protected by a
threesome of bunkers left, right and back. And at natural Amphitheater,
the clubhouse sits back there, a big flag, just a
great finishing hole. This place. You are going to fall
in love with this place, can't wait. I'm telling you visually,
it's stunning.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Check out facts at Instagram that the part five seventeenth
you were just talking about.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
I put that up there. I think yesterday.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
It's just thank you for that. That lake going up
the left and it's pretty yeap, very cool.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
And our old buddy Chris Hansen was the assistant pro
here really back in the early nineties. I believe that. Yeah,
handsOn man, yep, rhythm, you're.

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Speaker 4 (57:54):
I saw him pull up for the latest odds. He's
getting ready to fire away.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
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Speaker 1 (57:59):
I had half last week, and you know it bounced
back for the one and done. He almost pulled it off.
I'm taking Ludwig Aubert this week as my one and done.
He's plus two thousand to win. I'll throw a little
shekel on that and plus three thirty in the top ten.
Bobby Mack is another guy that I was considering, but

(58:22):
I stayed away from him for the one and done.
But I'm going to take in the top twenty at
plus money at plus one ten. Nick Dunlap is a
guy who played marvelously last week. He is a brilliant talent,
and I think if he pulls off a top twenty
or better this week, he can make it to east
Lake plus one twenty five in a top twenty. And

(58:45):
you now, this is the last week that these President's
Cup guys can get considered for non captains picks. There's
no Canadians in the in the non captains picks right now. Okay,
so Corey Connors better get on the stick. He's number
seven in the President's Cup rankings. Top six are automatic. Wow.

(59:09):
Minus one fifteen for a top twenty seems like a
lock to me. He's also outside the top thirty for Atlanta.
He's at thirty third, so he needs a good week.
So take the canook, Corey Connors, And I'm taking McCarthy,
our guy McCarthy who needs He's right on the bubble.
He's at thirty in the top thirty. I'm taking him

(59:30):
minus one fifteen over that Swede Norrin.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Hey, all right, I like it. Greeny.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
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for not making me have to do that DraftKings.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Oh yeah, that's after a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
I tell you that's just and this is a pro
man pro Harry Obert.

Speaker 9 (59:51):
I'm on it.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Love that.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
I love that pick, love love him this week, this course,
and I agree with you. I love this course. I
remember years ago when this was on as the International
to stay we Reford. Just a very cool event, cool course.
We're playing this mountain course this week. It's just a
it's just a cool event.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
It's a cool course.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Also really really like oh Connors, no, no, no, right,
well San Burns, San Burns.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I like Burns. I like Burns too. At twenty
eight hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
With all the talk about Scotty and Xander, I think
Xander is gonna could could also win. It's a really
short number at six hundred. You have Scheffler at basically
three hundred, at Xander at six rory of fourteen hundred
more Cowa is still is way up there again, and
in Matsuyama, and then Victor Hovelin right in at eighteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Range.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Xander's really short odds at six hundred. I hate it,
but I could see him winning this week. To try
to put a little another.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Little uh period, right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
Yeah, Clark what was he He's short numbers one and done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Although one of the who I mean, it's well, it
went between. It's between Brace and Nick Kle right now.
Brace gained on Nick Cale a couple of thousand or
whatever they're there with. They're very close, and my information
is telling me that Nick Cale is taking Sam Burns,
and I think Brace is on Wyndham Clark or Aaron Rye.

(01:01:32):
So yeah, I mean, these guys are They've used all
the good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Players I mean to be unbearable. Yeah, either way, yeah, whichever.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I don't want to send a Venmo to either of them, okay,
but but I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Have to, and you'll be getting texts from the one.
I'll be getting text from the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Other one, right the right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Not good?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Danielle Scotti Scheffler is can he can he win again?
Just to just to say Nasander or.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
What I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
Yes he can?

Speaker 8 (01:02:03):
The answer is, I mean, you know it is possible.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
Do I think it's probable? No? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:02:10):
He's not who I'm choosing for this week, but it's
definitely possible.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
How's everything going for Nita? We read it a rock
You're heading north soon?

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
Yeah, We're leaving Friday, so we'll be up there the
better part of like three and a half week, So
get a lot of g in in the Philly area
and of course Country COVID Scranton.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
We're going to get around in our crew here. We'll
be live up there. But yeah, it's it's it's a grind.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
The ticket sales for the Harmony for I hope our
kickoff event on Friday ended today.

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
Most you know planning an event, how that goes.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
But I'm like, it's planning in a wedding and we're
at slated at possibly close to four hundred.

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
I didn't do the final tallies.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
I have until midnight for ticket sales to close, but
at one hundred and fifty people on my wedding, we
have like three hundred plus.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
Coming to this event, and I'm like, what is going on?
So it's amazing. We have incredible support.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Uh still time to donate any items up for silent
or live auction.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Just make a general donation.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
You have a couple hours, depending on how quick powers
can get this out. We have until midnight to purchase
tickets and then obviously everybody's invited to come up check
out the course.

Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
And watch the event on the seventh and eighth of September.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Awesome, great, can't wait, can't wait.

Speaker 8 (01:03:23):
It'll be fun.

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
I'm so happy. Number ten. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Great. Yeah, we had to get in there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Thanks again to Ryan Balanjie for coming on. Thanks again
for Greenie for joining the annual appearance.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Yes, we'll be back next week. See then listen, swing
it and ding It.